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White Mare Zoroastrianism Anonymous 11/20/2019 (Wed) 07:46:40 ID:3e59e9 No. 350
Can we salvage Zoroastrianism? Christianity is screwed considering that it centers around having Whites sacrifice themselves to Jews and not fighting back. I still need to read more of the Avesta. We could try to start a new religion but it's easier when you claim something historical.
>>439 >Jesus adhered to this same oral law. That is utter BS, He spoke against the old ways. Why do you think they hated Jesus?
>>441 strike that last part "why they hated him, as you answered >tried to undermine his own kind. No wonder the kikes killed him
>>442 Again I really don't care. As I have said I don't even have a dog in this fight, as I don't even buy the "Historicity of Jesus" my self. But I certainly don't buy into any other voodoo legends either You haven't really made a case for any religion, afaic If you have proof of a higher power, provide it Better yet, tell your Sky Daddy, to show himself to me and cast away all doubt And to say we have to pick a religion and everyone needs to agree before we can have a united movement is just more kikery, imho
>>440 Christendom succeeded, for a time, due to the fact that it was forced upon the Aryan race. The decay only set in after a long time of marinating in that religion which preaches slave morality and absolute obedience to a Jewish god. It is universalist, exclusivist and culminates in cuckery, forcing the plight of the slave upon noble Aryan humanity. We don't see Ethiopia (one of the first Christian countries) becoming a great civilization. Far from it. Christianity slaughtered hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of white Europeans over the issue of religion and trampled upon their native conditions, dividing Europe amongst itself later on through more religious wars and squabbling. When it all finally imploded on itself Christianity became weaponized as a manner to accept mass immigration, equality and every other cancer of modernity. In fact, the seeds for all of this come pre-packaged right in the text. (equality of souls, turn the other cheek, give up your cloak, salvation is of the Jews, accept foreigners into your land because of Egypt, etc). >>441 Jesus clearly attached great important to the oral law. He considered it to be authorative. Why else would Jesus admonish his disciples "do everything they [the scribes and the Pharisees] tell you." (Matthew 23:3). This is in regard to the oral traditions. Likewise "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). This is referring to the laws of the Jews. >>441 >Why do you think they hated Jesus? >b-but the Jews HATE Christianity, it’s g-gotta be true! The Jews hate Christianity in the way that a poison-maker hates the poisons he makes and doesn't want to become poisoned by it. If the Jews wholeheartedly embraced Christianity they'd be hurting their race and would succumb to their own weapon. The Jewish survival and dominance strategy is undeniably highly successful. The Jews saw that Yeshua was a subverter among their race of subverters and, smartly rejecting this route of decadence, had him crucified. Later it was another kike (((Saul))) who was struck by a flash of inspiration (this was Saul's alleged vision) to use the doctrine of the subverter Yeshua as a destroyer of nations and as a means to dominate and pacify (in time) the virtuous and proud Aryan civilizations of the world. As Nietzsche said: >Has not Israel really obtained the final goal of its sublime revenge, by the tortuous paths of this "Redeemer," for all that he might pose as Israel's adversary and Israel's destroyer? Is it not due to the black magic of a really great policy of revenge, of a far-seeing, burrowing revenge, both acting and calculating with slowness, that Israel himself must repudiate before all the world the actual instrument of his own revenge and nail it to the cross, so that all the world-- that is, all of the enemies of Israel-- could nibble without suspicion at this very bait? Could, moreover, any human mind with all of its elaborate ingenuity invent a bait that was truly more dangerous? I’ve also heard spiritual kikes say that Jeebus comes before race and nation and that they’d rather live in a non-white Christian nation than a white pagan Europe. This is why Christians cannot be NatSoc. They are too concerned the with immaterial and the big Jew in the sky to an extent where they will betray their own people for a dead rabbi nailed to a stick
Again what religion are you shilling and why? What proof do you have it is not total bullshit? Zoroastrianism? or some other crap in this thread?
>>445 Do you know this chan have IDs, right?
>>446 b27209 (1) They changed with thread move to new board, but gather 2ef792 (3) is d97635 (6) >If you're especially knowledgeable about Creativity it may be a good idea to make a thread on it. It could be a good way to spread the word about it and introduce it to anons who are not aware of Klassen. Up to you of course, obviously. and >I have denounced Zoroastrianism in this very thread. As for Hinduism, which is a degeneration of the higher Aryan Vedic religion, you should really look into what a non-cucked religion looks like that affirms hierarchy and is one of the last living varieties of Aryan paganism with an unbroken history. Religion and the spiritual is completely inseparable from political matters. To distinguish between them is to erect an artificial barrier Perhaps you're >>374, in which case you both have my apologies, as Creativity seems to (sort of) align with my views, although again I don't feel the need personally to follow any dogma myself Believe in anyone God(s) or lack of, you wish, I'll judge you on your character and actions All in all I am just tired of the infighting, nearly all Christbros I'v conversed with here and offsite have been of a more based nature. They have not been overbearing with their views towards me, and I have had no reason to harbor ill feelings towards them. That's not too say that is the case with all or even most I agree, just my own limited interactions with them.
>>448 So I stand by early claim >>400 748401 (6) >convince 20 others on the board it is the right one, you will have my support. Certainly as at first glance I take no issue with the core tenet, though admittedly have not yet read Klassen
>>439 > Jesus was a particularity subversive Jew to the extent that he tried to undermine his own kind. No wonder the kikes killed him to an extent. just as the sand niggers in iran are different from the sand niggers in iraq so it was in jesus' time as the herodians were edomite converts ergo the "synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews, and are not, but lie" statements. they were all semites but as different as Celts and Finns.
>>448 >Perhaps you're >>374, in which case you both have my apologies that would be me - i can see the clusterfuck this thread might become
>>446 Don’t respond to schizos
>>450 >in jesus' time as the herodians were edomite converts ergo the "synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews, and are not, but lie" statements splain plz
>>459 Not christian scholar, but Iv seen those more knowledgeable than I, that speak of kikes basically were disinfo shills right from the beginning in the Old Testament For one, the tribe of Jud is not even the "chosen" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob >From jewpedia's own mouth.... >Jacob (/ˈdʒeɪkəb/; Hebrew: יַעֲקֹב, Modern: About this soundYa‘aqōv (help·info), Tiberian: Yaʿăqōḇ; Arabic: يَعْقُوب‎ Yaʿqūb, Greek: Ἰακώβ, Iakṓb), later given the name Israel, is regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites and so is an important figure in Abrahamic religions, such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Jacob first appears in the Book of Genesis, the son of Isaac and Rebecca, the grandson of Abraham, Sarah and Bethuel, the nephew of Ishmael. He was the second-born of Isaac's children, the elder being his fraternal twin brother Esau. However, by deceiving Isaac when he was old and blind, Jacob was able to usurp the blessing that belonged to Esau as the firstborn son, and become the leader of their family.[1] usurp the "blessing" that belonged to Esau as the firstborn son >Esau was the "chosen" son not Jacob, >Jacob is said to have had twelve sons by four women, his wives, Leah and Rachel, and his concubines, Bilhah and Zilpah, who were, in order of their birth, Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin, all of whom became the heads of their own family groups, later known as the Twelve Tribes of Israel, >Jews "claim" to be descendants of Judah. Most are ashkenazi and not even Semitic but I digress, Ego, jews are not Gods chosen. It was literally spelt out in the bible 1000's of years ago >Revelation 3:9 John's letter "To the Church in Philadelphia" >9. Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead. I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I love you. or >1 John 2:22-23 >22Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. SYNAGOGUE who CLAIM to be jews but are LIARS Pretty fucking clear. Kikes have always been shilling their kikery There's obviously much more to this story, but as I said I'm not the best to answer these questions If you truly interested in subject you should check out some christian chan's It is pretty clear Christian faith is actually antisemitic at its core, but mainstream Christianity was corrupted during the middle ages by kike scibes.(example by using the words Judean's and jews as synonymously, they are not the same word ) There are many that take the bible as the "Word of God" and you can not separate those lines from kikes being kikes
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>>459 >splain plz this anon splained well >>462 jesus' "jews" were edomite larpers according to their own adopted scriptures modern day Ashkenazim jews are Japhethites, not Semites. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+10%3A2-4&version=KJV >Among Muslim historians, Japheth is usually regarded as the ancestor of the Gog and Magog tribes, and, at times, of the Turks, Khazars, and Slavs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhetites to call Nordics "Japethites" is a bit of a stretch -- the OT biblical world went as far north as Turkey and the greek isles while the NT "world" was the roman empire; bantu niggers, chinks, eskimos, aztecs, etc. were nonentities - the biblical "world" dealt with that particular author's immediate "world"
>>462 >the stolen blessing Doesn't that say much when they proudly cite a religious book that black-on-white states they are usurpers? What is there to say of Christians and Muslims who respect that and identify themselves to that? >Most are ashkenazi and not even Semitic but I digress Semitic. Needs to be clarified. Those who have the most obvious Semitic features are less numerous in the American and European Jewish communities, whereas in Israel they are more numerous. But if there's an error that needs to be corrected as often as possible, it's the idea that Ashkenazim Jews have nothing genetically related to Semites. That's a classic error and totally false, that of "they are just converts". It's not hard to find typical Jewish features in certain Ashkenazim. True, some seem dimmed, obviously because of genetic mixing, but they always have at least one or two which can be spotted if you look closely. Features they share with their browner counsins. Those German and Eastern Jews were obviously more than just converts. The rotten aristocracy of the Khazar empire probably got enchanted by the shekels brought by the Southern Jews—I suspect some came from Persia, others maybe from places such as Ukraine or simply from all the settlements that stretched from Rome to Anatolia. It's likely that the high ranking Jews progressively intermarried with the Khazarian upper class like they always do and that's when they notably acquired a more Asiatic and whitish outlook, which got reinforced later on throughout the centuries when they settled again in Venice, then the North and Center of Europe in the Netherlands, Belgium, Poland and Germany. Usually, they always have something that looks sick about their appearance and facial features. Sometimes it's the very kinky hair, beady eyes, sometimes the thicker lower lip, the non-existant ear lobes or, on the contrary, extremely flabby lobes, the slight olive tint of the skin and often times a horrible grin when they smile. And the obvious winner, the nose, although yes, it's rarer within the Ashekenazim fraction of their international community. Obviously the more white DNA they have assimilated, the less those features stick out, but they're often times there. There's also the endogamy parameter that plays into this, with the more Levantine types having married with their European counterparts and having share their facial features. > jews are not Gods chosen. It was literally spelt out in the bible 1000's of years ago Yes, but they're still of the blood of Isaac and their god still is Yahweh. Yes, the story is truly a mess, and a pathetic one at that. Them being a race of thieves, they surely consider this trick a mark of the superior intellect and therefore legitimate. So they pray to a god of which they stole something sacred. Isn't it totally ridiculous? >SYNAGOGUE who CLAIM to be jews but are LIARS That is another problem because even if they may have not been of Judah's tribe, they most likely were Semites of another tribe and still related to Jacob the usurper. As per geographical history, the people who inhabited the territories homonymous of the Tribes' names were full of Semites and mixed-race people who traveled across this region. In other words, some Semites (or Jews) claiming to be more Jewish or the true Jews than other people identified as liars remains an internal political affair that is none of our Aryan business! >It is pretty clear Christian faith is actually antisemitic at its core, but mainstream Christianity was corrupted during the middle ages by kike scibes.(example by using the words Judean's and jews as synonymously, they are not the same word ) There are many that take the bible as the "Word of God" and you can not separate those lines from kikes being kikes You're selling a creed that was rotten BEFORE the medieval times. Romans already called the Jews "Yehudi". These same Yehudi obtained great benefits under Constantine and Theosodius while Pagans were forced to convert. Vulgate and Septuagint provide sufficiently clear elements against early Christianity. Whites never were sinners and even IF our ancestors needed spiritual help and salvation, then any true messenger should have wandered across Europe, not the Middle East. We're not going to bow before a more or less stolen, poly-then-monotheistic, Canaanite godlet, as described in the Old Testament.
>>466 >Japhethites, not Semites See here >>467 Northern Jews didn't pop into existence in the middle of Europe just like that. They kept moving West and North, acquiring strands of DNA from the people they rubbed their bodies against. Sometimes Jews convert goyim but after a while, the converts while dissolve into the Jewish community. Also, orthodox Jews never accept those converts as real Jews anyway, and this applies to the children too. Now, on the opposition between Japhethites and Semites, this could be truer only if we strictly refer to the lineages, that of Japheth and Shem, according to the tablets of nations. But they all sprout from the same stem. As for "historians" mixing Turks, Khazars (a cosmopolitan group with a large quantity of Turko-Asiatic people) and Slavs (Whites for all intents and purposes), there's nothing good to say of them or their respectability.
>>468 They mixed up Turks and Slavs because both lived in the steppe and in general had little knowledge of their actual language, plus Turks were at the time a nomadic confederation living in a mostly white land. Central Asia and Transoxania used to be white, still was after the first Turkic invasions, and in many cases still is (the Yaghnobi people for example) Both Ashkenazi and Sephardi jews come from the same ancestors, the earliest jews in Rome, who later migrated to either Spain, or Germany/north France. The ones coming to Russia and Poland came straight from the middle east. As for the Khazars, you're mostly right. The Khazars didn't consider themselves jews, in a letter to the rabbi of Cordoba they wrote in Hebrew that they descended from Togarmah who they considered the father of the Turks, so the whole idea that Khazars came to Europe and later became the Ashkenazi jews is nothing but disinfo, as they actually claimed descent from Judah.
>>467 >poly-then-monotheistic Oh yes, this is also worth commenting on. It's similar to how the pre-Islamic Arabs worshipped Allah but also worshipped other gods. The thing with Israeli polytheism is that it wasn't even not worshipping Jehovah, it was worshipping other gods while acknowledging him as the creator. So they attribute the fertility goddess as God's wife, or claim that there are just lesser gods that could still be worshipped. This is where the whole conflict in Kings comes from, monotheism vs henotheism and polytheism acknowledging a single creator god.
>>469 >Both Ashkenazi and Sephardi jews come from the same ancestors, the earliest jews in Rome, who later migrated to either Spain, or Germany/north France. The Sephardim are definitely more oriental looking than their Yiddsh-speaking brothers. They had a longer connection with Southern peoples around the Mediterranean sea. Ashekenazim certainly became whiter through intermarriage, which would most logically be with rich Jewish men putting their hands on some shiksas, and then sometimes producing a not too disgusting daughter which even a white man might find somewhat attractive enough. True Khazars might have converted but it's hard to assess how much this trickled down to the whole population over their empire. It is much expected that no leading elite of a country would so massively turn towards Judaism, if there wasn't already a considerable Jewish influence, at least financial, which as we know would sooner or later translate into a cultural and philosophical influence. With the proximity of the Khazar empire with Eastern Europe, I would not dismiss the movement of Jews and half-Jews out of this empire westward, especially as said empire was on its way out.
>>470 >The thing with Israeli polytheism is that it wasn't even not worshipping Jehovah, it was worshipping other gods while acknowledging him as the creator. this is hentotheism. jehovah was a tribal god, as equally valid as every other tribal god --- "let us make man in our image" --- "let us go down and fuck up their language" --- all of the gods did these deeds in concert. he ranted about being a jealous god and made it a primo sin to worship other gods before him (but i guess it was okay to worship them second, third, fourth, etc.). they basically took bits and pieces from every culture they encountered/got enslaved by and their concept of god took on new aspects with each encounter so then you have jehovah going from being a minor tribal deity to being the conqueror of gods to being the god of gods to being the only god that ever existed amen and glory hallelujah
>>371 Glad to see a fellow vedicshill here, its so lonely on the internet sometimes. But yeah there is no system of religion and philosophy that is more complete and comprehensive and aryan than krishna worship. Simply read bhagavad gita as it is by srila prabhupada apply its principles and everything in your life will be so much nicer you will see
>>498 Something I finished last night: a commentary-free Brahma-Samhita. I cp'd the verses, then fixed the transliteration errors, some formatting then exported as pdf and epub. Here is pdf and related image that goes with
>>350 I have several books on Zoroastrianism here: >>624
>>498 Does it teach to fight for the whites and remove jews and go as far as to crush them to some small residue to dump into a dustbin, preferably close to some volcano?
It's a belief system in a better white world, it's white nationalism with a pinch of imperialism, it pushes for the realization that whites are Nature's finest so there is an undeniable sense of pride to be cultivated here, assuming we're worthy of it. It advocates for letting non-whites prove they're worth their salt and give them nothing invented or produced by whites, no mission to civilize niggers or feed chinks or pajeets. It's also clearly anti-Jew, identified as a great threat. It argues for sane mental and physical health, for proper ecology, is very NS on this regarding folk and family. It does not shun modern science and high technology either but logically argues it has to be put under white control and moderated. It is devoid of any spirituality despite calling itself a religion, which most people automatically translate as "system of spiritual belief". In other words it's a very secular array of methods and convictions that could be organized into a codex and which any white government would be welcome to apply, assuming a proper white spirituality would actually wrap all of this.


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