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What to do with Judaism, Christianity, and religion in general? Anonymous 12/31/2019 (Tue) 04:42:58 ID:793f5b No. 500
Hello everyone, today we are going to discuss the issue regarding religion, and if it should be dismantled or not. The thread is also meant as criticism of "uninspired materialism", "positive nihilism" and other riddicilous thoughts. So let's begin. What exactly is, religion? According to the Wikipedia (aka the most redpilling website in existence if we ignore the Holocaust articles): >Religion is a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements.[1] However, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion. We can clearly see in this regard that in it's most basic formulated concept, religion is a system that explains why certain things are bad, and why certain things are good. However, there is a one major flaw with this system that most people do not even try to give materialist proof for it. And that implies to "supernatural, transcendental and/or spiritual elements" mentioned above earlier. However, before we dvelwe into the reasoning to why God or any kind of deity is not real, and that religion is simply a flawed system of reality that confuses the human mind, let us take a look at what Feuerbach says regarding religion and God (that is Christianity in this context): >RELIGION is the disuniting of man from himself; he sets God before him as the antithesis of himself God is not what man is – man is not what God is. God is the infinite, man the finite being; God is perfect, man imperfect; God eternal, man temporal; God almighty, man weak; God holy, man sinful. God and man are extremes: God is the absolutely positive, the sum of all realities; man the absolutely negative, comprehending all negations. So we see here that God, who is out there according to the Christian faith, is someone we should trust because we as humans are weak and we will never surpass his strenght. And he is also full of wisdom, aware of all truths that exist in our world... however, there is a one tiny contradiction: >But in religion man contemplates his own latent nature. Hence it must be shown that this antithesis, this differencing of God and man, with which religion begins, is a differencing of man with his own nature. >The inherent necessity of this proof is at once apparent from this, – that if the divine nature, which is the object of religion, were really different from the nature of man, a division, a disunion could not take place. If God is really a different being from myself, why should his perfection trouble me? Disunion exists only between beings who are at variance, but who ought to be one, who can be one, and who consequently in nature, in truth, are one. On this general ground, then, the nature with which man feels himself in disunion must be inborn, immanent in himself, but at the same time it must be of a different character from that nature or power which gives him the feeling, the consciousness of reconciliation, of union with God, or, what is the same thing with himself. This is a grand fatal mistake in regards to Christian philosophy. How can I even be in a relationship with something that is very much different from me, and how in fact it really is just entirely alien? I cannot, as human being, who is by regards of Christianity, a most evil thing in existence, to be in relationship with a being that has entirely different nature than me, because that is not how, by a simple observation, society in general function. We all thrive based upon on circumstance that we all belong in the same tribe, one group, not that we are entirely different. These are my arguments so far, feel free to refute my claims and have proper debate regarding this issue.
>>500 Our biological world functions symbiotically by the coexistence of things with incomparable natures. The disparate factors of life function as a cohesive whole. On that note, I do not see any disunity, as God is a manifestation of the desire for ascendance by man, whereas man's imperfect form and nature is the vehicle to be subjected to trials in pursuit of this ascendance. In essence, the material is used as an expression of the immaterial. In the Abrahamic faiths, it also emphasized that God is merciful and forgiving beyond comparison. So, the material world and its tests act essentially as a process for bringing souls closer into unity with him. The two parties (God and Man) are perpetually reaching to each other, implying unity, first through imperfection (life) and then perfection (unification by death). This is the Abrahamic concept of God, but there are many others.
Immediately stopped reading upon first sentence. Your choice of words are very poor and lead to an instant collapse in logic. Religion being dismantled makes absolute zero sense due to the simple fact that it is a fundamental construct in society dating back 1000's of years.
>>502 You seem to be of mind that we should keep religions because they are part of our history. So was bloodletting in medicine, and countless other things early science got wrong then later corrected Hypothetical. In 1000 years, all religions have almost entirely died off, and science, or some alien culture, is able to prove beyond any doubt, that 'god' does not exist and never did. He was merely a creation of men to explain what they didn't understand, and later used by men to control other men... Would you still make the same argument?
>>19670 OP here, and I understand your views regarding this issue. I shall ask all the mods here who are here to delete this thread, if I myself have no actual power to do it on my own and move it somewhere else.
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>>504 >I myself have no actual power Users can self delete posts, if you delete your first post, the entire thread will be deleted. I will move the thread to culture, however you won't find many anons here debating the need for religion as it is a minority view in general.
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>>500 Hello I like your post OP however I will skip the long elaborations I tend to use for the sake of quick answers. >What exactly is, religion? A meaningless word actually something you go on explaining in detail. Christianity, Islam and the other kind of crap can be properly understood to be mind viruses. This also includes other things that don’t really use names like SJW or leftists(not the names they use for themselves however we need to categorize them somehow) in general who will try to kill anyone who questions their deluded world view. > however, there is a one tiny contradiction This is more sophistry the main points against christieanity would be: <Literally irrefutable evidence that christianity and its god can not exist and are proven to be fake <christianity is a government made up religion! There is no debate about this. see Theodosius I <Nothing in Christianity makes sense <Christians are simply crazy and hurt themselves in their madness. See rapture and snake handling. Remember the 2011 rapture? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QynNpzqYt0Y Yes enjoy your debt and no magic teleport to heaven for you! Idiot christians. >>503 > is able to prove beyond any doubt This is already here and everyone can see it for himself. Want to know the real kicker? Christians will literally refuse to listen to this and continue being crazy. >because they are part of our history The muh ancestors argument can not fly because christianity was only the dominant religion for 1500 years And before that your ancestors where pagans. So the ultimate comedy of christieanity is we must only look back 1500 years and not further. <But muh ancestors (don’t go further then 1500 years). The rest of what you say is mostly in place, christians simply refuse to accept facts and will go ultra crazy and refuse everything and reject everything, because the mind virus in their head will protect itself at all costs.


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