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White Mare Zoroastrianism Anonymous 11/20/2019 (Wed) 07:46:40 ID:3e59e9 No. 350
Can we salvage Zoroastrianism? Christianity is screwed considering that it centers around having Whites sacrifice themselves to Jews and not fighting back. I still need to read more of the Avesta. We could try to start a new religion but it's easier when you claim something historical.
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I've got a better idea: Hermeticism.
>Encourages a personal experience of the divine
>Encourages a virtuous lifestyle
>Encourages making kids
>No dogma, no priests, nothing to infiltrate
>Needs intelligence to comprehend, so no niggers by default
>Foretells the ravages of Islam and Atheism in its main text, says foreign replacement is very bad

>Egypt will be forsaken, and the land which was once the home of religion will be left desolate, bereft of the presence of its deities.

>This land and region will be filled with foreigners; not only will men neglect the service of the gods, but ... ; and Egypt will be occupied by Scythians or Indians or by some such race from the barbarian countries thereabout. In that day will our most holy land, this land of shrines and temples, be filled with funerals and corpses.

>To thee, most holy Nile, I cry, to thee I foretell that which shall be; swollen with torrents of blood, thou wilt rise to the level of thy banks, and thy sacred waves will be not only stained, but utterly fouled with gore.

>Do you weep at this, Asclepius? There is worse to come; Egypt herself will have yet more to suffer; she will fall into a far more piteous plight, and will be infected with yet more, grievous plagues; and this land, which once was holy, a land which loved the gods, and wherein alone, in reward for her devotion, the gods deigned to sojourn upon earth, a land which was the teacher of mankind in holiness and piety, this land will go beyond all in cruel deeds.

>The dead will far outnumber the living; and the survivors will be known for Egyptians by their tongue alone, but in their actions they will seem to be men of another race.

>O Egypt, Egypt, of thy religion nothing will remain but an empty tale, which thine own children in time to come will not believe; nothing will be left but graven words, and only the stones will tell of thy piety.

>And in that day men will be weary of life, and they will cease to think the universe worthy of reverent wonder and of worship. And so religion, the greatest of all blessings, for there is nothing, nor has been, nor ever shall be, that can be deemed a greater boon, will be threatened with destruction; men will think it a burden, and will come to scorn it.

>They will no longer love this world around us, this incomparable work of God, this glorious structure which he has built, this sum of good made up of things of many diverse forms, this instrument whereby the will of God operates in that which be has made, ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare, this combination and accumulation of all the manifold things that can call forth the veneration, praise, and love of the beholder.
Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life; no one will raise his eyes to heaven ; the pious will be deemed insane, and the impious wise; the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good.

>As to the soul, and the belief that it is immortal by nature, or may hope to attain to immortality, as I have taught you, all this they will mock at, and will even persuade themselves that it is false.

>No word of reverence or piety, no utterance worthy of heaven and of the gods of heaven, will be heard or believed.
Seems too unabridged/esoteric. I'm more interested in proposing a more uniform/structured religion for nationalism.

This is the correct answer. Hermeticism is how we will reassert ourselves after the collapse.
Just highjack Catharism and impregnante it with Gnostic ideas of Angelic racial supremacy and the esoteric Hitlerists will volunteer to waste their time prosyletizing it
Based and Universal Order pilled

> The student of Comparative Religions will be able to perceive the influence of the Hermetic Teachings in every religion worthy of the name, now known to man, whether it be a dead religion or one in full vigor in our own times. There is always certain correspondence in spite of the contradictory features, and the Hermetic Teachings act as the Great Reconciler.
> THE ALL IS MIND; The Universe is Mental.
- The Kybalion.
I already expressed that this is not another esoteric thread.
Well go fuck yourself then faggot. Not my fault your too low IQ to understand concepts that you write off as "esoteric". You also don't get to dictate what another man says and where I say it like a bitch.
lol the edge
>>354 I don't get it. Gnosticism boils down to: the universe is faulty, it sucks, let's quit. Dafuq?
>>350 >Can we salvage Zoroastrianism? What do you like in it that you'd like to salvage?
>>360 He probably doesn’t know anything about religions and just wants a White religion as such. IMO the Greeks and the Norse are the only ones with a religion worth a shit.
>>361 Hermeticism a maybe. I still feel that all three of them are missing something
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>they dont worship a kike on a stick You make the creepy bible dude upset by this
>>350 >Zoroastrianism I'm in, just for the keks. Let me know when you break ground on building a "Tower of Silence" to dispose of the dead by exposure and vultures. I'll donate. The discussions of the local planning boards would be priceless. https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/zoroastrian-towers-silence-where-dead-are-left-vultures-007182
>>364 That's a belief of some kind, but these days we would rather let enemies and degenerate die this way.
>>350 Atheism is the true way for whites.
>>366 No, it's at best only the beginning of the journey.
>>350 I'd better play Prince of Persia.
>>367 >atheism Scientists say "a taste from the cup turns you a misbeliever, but at the bottom lies God awaiting" you need moar DMT through that head.
>>351 Isn't that basically what the freemasons did, took a lot of stuff, called it Hermeticism and then proceeded to order their lodge and teachings according to it (mixed in with some Christianity esp old testament and some references to Judaism).
Zoroastrianism is a degenerated version of the primordial Tradition, i.e. Sanātana Dharma, Aryan Vedic religion. Zoroastrianism is directly responsible for all Abrahamic insanity seeing how the kikes plagiarized so much from it.
>>350 I don't recommend worshiping what you don't know the origin and the end. What Jews do is not what God necessarily does. You have to be able to differentiate Jews and God. (1) JEWS and (2) GOD are not the same. God is God. Jews are Jews. Don't hate God because of Jews, two different facts. I recommend you to read the book of Enoch so it can at least expand your mind why everything may be going on so chaotic this way, it's useful.
>>351 Hermeticism or Gnosticism will do depending on the target audience. Both support all of our philosophical and political ideals and can be retconned into a perfect Fascist state religion complete with our own bohemian grove style shit to keep the powerful in line and in a gay secret club we all know the rich love.
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>>374 Creativity is based, I'm surprised Klassen isn't talked about so much more than he is. It is inherently pro-white and based off the eternal laws of nature, what is there to dislike?
>>375 i thought i had uploaded some of his books to our library --- it looks like i have some work to do
>>376 Yes, please upload them for other anons. If you're especially knowledgeable about Creativity it may be a good idea to make a thread on it. It could be a good way to spread the word about it and introduce it to anons who are not aware of Klassen. Up to you of course, obviously.
>>377 >>17409 https://www.16chan.xyz/library/res/285.html# i am interested in "based" books regarding preabrahamic ancient religions --- if anyone has any please post in the library
How is this political? This belongs in /culture/.
>>379 >thinking the political can be separated from the cultural Fuck /culture/, it's a board where the jannies kick anything they don't like, instantly killing the thread.
>>374 Interesting, could have used a QRD rather than trip to jewpedia (intro was unbearable as intended, to stop one from scrolling down to find the following) Creativity rejects a supernatural while affirming a pantheist[23][24] view of nature, asserting that "everything is in nature" and defining it as "the whole cosmos, the total universe, including its millions of natural laws through space and time."[25] According to Klassen, "A Creator is not superstitious and disdains belief in the supernatural. He will waste no time giving credence to, or playing silly games with imaginary spooks, spirits, gods and demons." Creators do not believe in a supernatural afterlife believing "immortality" to be genetic and memorial with a cessation of consciousness at death. They believe that they should view life and death on Earth in a "rational, fearless manner," concentrating on life's positive aspects.[26] Whereas Ben Klassen was classified by some as an atheist[27][28][29] and Creativity has been labelled atheistic in the press,[30] Klassen rejected the term, viewing atheism as a negative approach to a positive evil, claiming atheism lacks a "positive creed and program" to replace the Abrahamic religions and isn't inherently racist.[31] Atheism and Creativity both reject supernatural beliefs, such as those in gods, devils, spooks, spirits, heaven or hell.[32] >>379 Im personally inclined to agree >>377 >good idea to make a thread on it /culture/ or /library/ would hopefully garner more intellectual discussion and anons interested in broadening their knowlegde, rather than the usual /pol/ kike on a stick bants, imo >>380 Yes because what /pol/ Really needs is 20 fucking different religious threads >>x174xx Why Judaism is truly the Religion of the Nazi Party
>>380 You'd just rather shill Zoroastrianism to pol denizens, a larger audience. You haven't provided a solid reason why this thread belongs on /pol/ instead of /culture/. Fuck your gay subversion and fuck your ugly, retarded Hindu gods. Fucking sick of the hindu shilling that goes on on pol these days.
>>382 I have denounced Zoroastrianism in this very thread. As for Hinduism, which is a degeneration of the higher Aryan Vedic religion, you should really look into what a non-cucked religion looks like that affirms hierarchy and is one of the last living varieties of Aryan paganism with an unbroken history. Religion and the spiritual is completely inseparable from political matters. To distinguish between them is to erect an artificial barrier
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>>379 >any topic related to hobbies Religion is not a hobby.
>>383 >completely inseparable from political matters Unless you are an Atheist There is good reason for separation of church and state. You want laws for how I behave in society fine. Do you also demand laws for what I believe?
>>385 So why should the atheist be able to assert his position to the exclusion of all others on this board? You clearly view your own outlook as essential to your political views. >There is good reason for separation of church and state. Debatable. >Do you also demand laws for what I believe? Only a Spiritual Semite does not believe in religious tolerance. Do we see specifically religious wars in ancient Rome, Greece and India? We did not see them in Europe until the Jews forced their religion upon us, and not until the Muslim plague seeped its way into India. The tremendous religious diversity of pagan Europe is unbelievable. There were atheistic philosophies, religious philosophies and of course the common superstitions of the lower folk, all coexisting in one manner or another, provided that they were not subversive to society (like Abrahamic religions are).
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>>384 BOss seemed intentionally vague to be as inclusive as possible A few Anons in past have also requested /x/ and or /fringe/ Sticky can be edited Suggestions? Any topic related to Culture, Spirituality and ??? Suggested pic?
>>387 I truly don't see the need to divide between politics and religion. If someone wants a theocracy and views there religious beliefs as integral to their political outlook we cannot draw a line here between religion and politics. The Pagan v. Christian divide is also integral to these circles. Atheism is just as much a position on the nature of reality as is any other belief system. Affirming such an unofficial policy of secularism on /pol/ is solely to the benefit of atheists while all other religious or spiritual anons will be booted over to the much smaller /culture/ where the thread will instantly die. As long as people are trying to convert (like Christcucks do when they spam Bible verses constantly), I don't see any problem whatsoever.
>>386 >religious wars I suppose it would be how you look at it but yes all wars are and always have had a religious component. Sure one could claim wise rulers try to be accepting of religions but allowing that, those religions have always served as a uniting force for rebellion and more (religious) wars
>>388 I hear you, I just do not see any benefit to the Atheist/Christian/Luciferian/Zoroastrianism/Pagan/Narabanchi/Creativity/[insert your choice] infighting that has been going on here for a while now. I really try not push my views on anons but I don't see any of these threads as productive (don't see anons converting) and often they seem quite the opposite (and I can't help being suspicious of that fact) I do admit there seems to be a high percentage of you that fervently hold to some belief or another and if your had a truly fascistic state with a theocracy and me moving there required I convert (or at least agree to never try to subvert it) I would gladly do so. I always try to make an effort to separate my personal views with board moderation, (generally waiting for a report before taking action, much to anons disappointment) and often reach out to other jannies for their input. I honestly don't personally mind (most) these threads, there are some insightful post contained within, but I do mind all the division I see you lads showing
>>387 It isn't that religion is unrelated to politics, it is that nothing in this thread ties this religion to politics, nor is any of the content politically incorrect. This thread is better suited to /culture/ as it involves the discussion of religion with no references to politics in 18 days.
>>388 >(like Christcucks do when they spam Bible verses constantly) Case in point
>>388 >(like Christcucks do when they spam Bible verses constantly) Got an example of a thread that contains this?
>>373 No, Gnosticism always hinges around the core idea that the universe is somehow broken. Even Valentinian Gnosticism won't suffice: Either the Demiurge is a nasty lad or just a plain inefficient moron trying to mimic Sophia. In other words, this reality is either totally evil (40K is like teletubbies next to this philosophy) or it's bound to be as reliable as Windows. FFS really. >>375 Good stuff but will not suffice, his religion lacked the very spiritual meat and potatoes many people look for. In fact it's bretty atheistic (despite all their claims to the contrary). But if you're more like an Agnostic or Atheist, then don't wait. Read Klassen NOW.
>>384 Indeed, could someone explain what's the point of this board? Looks like we should actually have an /eso/ and move the threads over there.
>>385 >Uses relative modernity to reject the efficiency of a functional regal power tied to spirituality and Aryan customs.
>>389 >I suppose it would be how you look at it but yes all wars are and always have had a religious component. What an old atheist canard. Many wars dealt with economics, fame or plain (((debt))). Of course, on a higher plan, yes, all wars pertain to God.
>>397 He was referring to wars from Ancient Times
Pretty sure International (((banker's))) were not behind the Battle of Thermopylae
>>397 So exactly what religion are you backing Anon? Seems we are up to 8 or so by now. I really don't fucking care, pick one try and convince 20 others on the board it is the right one, you will have my support. Alienate half of my brothers here, we will have an issue
>>392 This thread belongs in /culture/. Other similar threads have already been moved there such as the Luciferian Hitlerism threads. Please move this thread for consistency's sake.
>>401 Thank you Anon, holding off as a couple of you did seem to be in middle of conversation and certainly did not want to appear to be trying to shut down discussion. Of course, also to welcome input from anyone else. Noticed a couple Anons already moved their debate to active threads on culture. A few more hours, for transparency sake seems to be the right move here.
>>394 >his religion lacked the very spiritual meat and potatoes many people look for. >"There are no boundaries to our laws >There is no higher force >We are the gods that live on earth >Self-ordained from the time of birth" it's definitely not a religion for the masses.
>>398 And? You think affixing "ancient" suddenly makes this rule false? :-| >>399 So what? Banks didn't even exist back then, but lenders and usurers surely did and usury rates back then were literally through the roof. Also, what about good old looting for example? >>400 Look, I can understand you want the super duper ancient religion from distant times that is 100% true. Depending on where you live on this planet, you and your White ancestors had to deal with (((Christianity))) for between two to twenty centuries. Religions are written by sages. It takes time to coalesce good stuff. Start with keeping true to the natural laws and understand that all that surrounds us comes from somewhere, something big. When in doubt about a topic, try to identify the two opposite extremes. >>423 Any religion should have both, content for the masses and high brow, elitist and hidden content for the wise ones. His religion has no divine element in it and barely cuts it because by adhering to the laws of nature, one sticks to the Creator's plan, so to say. You will not find any initiation, mysteries, hermetism, grander truths. Maybe, maybe you could actually recognize a room for some form of elevated knowledge as it becomes clear that science and spirituality work together in a true religion, but Klassen rejected any concept of God. So his organization is a very secular one, a solid basis for the genesis of a White society for practical terms, but the utter lack of spirituality will come biting it in the ass later on. Demanding evidence is one thing. Rejecting the possibility of being wrong about one's conception of God (or whatever you generally identify as something of equal stature) is another!
>>397 Research about the 4 schools of Islam. About the opposite one to this wahhabi invasion which is disturbing Europe with its criminal intent.
>>424 >And? You think affixing "ancient" I didnt affix 'ancient', I was responding to the statement of >>386 > Do we see specifically religious wars in ancient Rome, Greece and India? We did not see them in Europe until the Jews forced their religion upon us I answered that the Greco-Persian wars were not ((banker)) wars. Are you disputing that? >White ancestors had to deal with (((Christianity))) As you know, I am not a practicing Christian but I dispute the echo around that word. Christianity is OLDER than Judaism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#History (even jewpedia admits this) Judaism as we know it dates to 300-500 AD(oldest complete physical copy in existence from 1340's), 240 years after Peter and Paul I don't deny that Jews weaseled into the religion to pervert it, but to call Jesus a Jew when they didn't even exist yet is disingenuous at best
>>424 >Any religion should have both... the philosophy is self revealing --- our purpose is to elevate ourselves and evolve. National Socialism and Creativity are complimentary and go hand in hand with one another. but while i do reject the Abrahamic faiths i am of the belief that creation does need a Creator and currently believe that all aspects of the universe is a manifestation of the Creator and that our consciousness is the ultimate manifestation. i also believe that there is a separate consciousness that everything is connected to and i choose to give that consciousness the title of "God"
>>433 Aye in my view believing in any religion that claims god made the earth including the billion light year universe just for us, or that he did it 14 billion (a low ball number in my view) years ago, then waited till just now (100k yrs ago blink of eye compared to universe) to create us, is unfathomable. Show me any religion that is back by empirical data and I will give it a closer look. Try saying "you just have to trust me" or just have to believe and have faith. I not interested. I can have morals, be just, and be as decent human being without the voodoo thanks
>>431 You realize that not all Jews accept the Talmud and there are those that adhere to pre-Talmudic Judaism, right? Karaites, i.e. scripturalists. They're just as kiked as any other sect
>>436 And your point is? Christ and his followers made the choice to reject all that shit didnt they?
>>437 You seem to think that Judaism is inseparable from the Talmud, when that is clearly false. All the Talmud(s) are is one set of text accompanied by two different sets of commentary. The core text existed long before the Talmud ever became a thing. The non-Talmudic Jews recognize this same oral law. Jesus adhered to this same oral law. Kikes have always been kikes. Jesus was a Jew. Jew is a racial designation and any innovations within their religion are merely innovations to protect the Jewish race. Jesus was a particularity subversive Jew to the extent that he tried to undermine his own kind. No wonder the kikes killed him
>>436 Tell me what part of Christendom is evil without resorting to "der joos" of course as I have stated I don't buy into that. Didnt Christ's teachings reject everything from the old Mosaic laws?
>>439 >Jesus adhered to this same oral law. That is utter BS, He spoke against the old ways. Why do you think they hated Jesus?
>>441 strike that last part "why they hated him, as you answered >tried to undermine his own kind. No wonder the kikes killed him
>>442 Again I really don't care. As I have said I don't even have a dog in this fight, as I don't even buy the "Historicity of Jesus" my self. But I certainly don't buy into any other voodoo legends either You haven't really made a case for any religion, afaic If you have proof of a higher power, provide it Better yet, tell your Sky Daddy, to show himself to me and cast away all doubt And to say we have to pick a religion and everyone needs to agree before we can have a united movement is just more kikery, imho
>>440 Christendom succeeded, for a time, due to the fact that it was forced upon the Aryan race. The decay only set in after a long time of marinating in that religion which preaches slave morality and absolute obedience to a Jewish god. It is universalist, exclusivist and culminates in cuckery, forcing the plight of the slave upon noble Aryan humanity. We don't see Ethiopia (one of the first Christian countries) becoming a great civilization. Far from it. Christianity slaughtered hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of white Europeans over the issue of religion and trampled upon their native conditions, dividing Europe amongst itself later on through more religious wars and squabbling. When it all finally imploded on itself Christianity became weaponized as a manner to accept mass immigration, equality and every other cancer of modernity. In fact, the seeds for all of this come pre-packaged right in the text. (equality of souls, turn the other cheek, give up your cloak, salvation is of the Jews, accept foreigners into your land because of Egypt, etc). >>441 Jesus clearly attached great important to the oral law. He considered it to be authorative. Why else would Jesus admonish his disciples "do everything they [the scribes and the Pharisees] tell you." (Matthew 23:3). This is in regard to the oral traditions. Likewise "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). This is referring to the laws of the Jews. >>441 >Why do you think they hated Jesus? >b-but the Jews HATE Christianity, it’s g-gotta be true! The Jews hate Christianity in the way that a poison-maker hates the poisons he makes and doesn't want to become poisoned by it. If the Jews wholeheartedly embraced Christianity they'd be hurting their race and would succumb to their own weapon. The Jewish survival and dominance strategy is undeniably highly successful. The Jews saw that Yeshua was a subverter among their race of subverters and, smartly rejecting this route of decadence, had him crucified. Later it was another kike (((Saul))) who was struck by a flash of inspiration (this was Saul's alleged vision) to use the doctrine of the subverter Yeshua as a destroyer of nations and as a means to dominate and pacify (in time) the virtuous and proud Aryan civilizations of the world. As Nietzsche said: >Has not Israel really obtained the final goal of its sublime revenge, by the tortuous paths of this "Redeemer," for all that he might pose as Israel's adversary and Israel's destroyer? Is it not due to the black magic of a really great policy of revenge, of a far-seeing, burrowing revenge, both acting and calculating with slowness, that Israel himself must repudiate before all the world the actual instrument of his own revenge and nail it to the cross, so that all the world-- that is, all of the enemies of Israel-- could nibble without suspicion at this very bait? Could, moreover, any human mind with all of its elaborate ingenuity invent a bait that was truly more dangerous? I’ve also heard spiritual kikes say that Jeebus comes before race and nation and that they’d rather live in a non-white Christian nation than a white pagan Europe. This is why Christians cannot be NatSoc. They are too concerned the with immaterial and the big Jew in the sky to an extent where they will betray their own people for a dead rabbi nailed to a stick
Again what religion are you shilling and why? What proof do you have it is not total bullshit? Zoroastrianism? or some other crap in this thread?
>>445 Do you know this chan have IDs, right?
>>446 b27209 (1) They changed with thread move to new board, but gather 2ef792 (3) is d97635 (6) >If you're especially knowledgeable about Creativity it may be a good idea to make a thread on it. It could be a good way to spread the word about it and introduce it to anons who are not aware of Klassen. Up to you of course, obviously. and >I have denounced Zoroastrianism in this very thread. As for Hinduism, which is a degeneration of the higher Aryan Vedic religion, you should really look into what a non-cucked religion looks like that affirms hierarchy and is one of the last living varieties of Aryan paganism with an unbroken history. Religion and the spiritual is completely inseparable from political matters. To distinguish between them is to erect an artificial barrier Perhaps you're >>374, in which case you both have my apologies, as Creativity seems to (sort of) align with my views, although again I don't feel the need personally to follow any dogma myself Believe in anyone God(s) or lack of, you wish, I'll judge you on your character and actions All in all I am just tired of the infighting, nearly all Christbros I'v conversed with here and offsite have been of a more based nature. They have not been overbearing with their views towards me, and I have had no reason to harbor ill feelings towards them. That's not too say that is the case with all or even most I agree, just my own limited interactions with them.
>>448 So I stand by early claim >>400 748401 (6) >convince 20 others on the board it is the right one, you will have my support. Certainly as at first glance I take no issue with the core tenet, though admittedly have not yet read Klassen
>>439 > Jesus was a particularity subversive Jew to the extent that he tried to undermine his own kind. No wonder the kikes killed him to an extent. just as the sand niggers in iran are different from the sand niggers in iraq so it was in jesus' time as the herodians were edomite converts ergo the "synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews, and are not, but lie" statements. they were all semites but as different as Celts and Finns.
>>448 >Perhaps you're >>374, in which case you both have my apologies that would be me - i can see the clusterfuck this thread might become
>>446 Don’t respond to schizos
>>450 >in jesus' time as the herodians were edomite converts ergo the "synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews, and are not, but lie" statements splain plz
>>459 Not christian scholar, but Iv seen those more knowledgeable than I, that speak of kikes basically were disinfo shills right from the beginning in the Old Testament For one, the tribe of Jud is not even the "chosen" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob >From jewpedia's own mouth.... >Jacob (/ˈdʒeɪkəb/; Hebrew: יַעֲקֹב, Modern: About this soundYa‘aqōv (help·info), Tiberian: Yaʿăqōḇ; Arabic: يَعْقُوب‎ Yaʿqūb, Greek: Ἰακώβ, Iakṓb), later given the name Israel, is regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites and so is an important figure in Abrahamic religions, such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Jacob first appears in the Book of Genesis, the son of Isaac and Rebecca, the grandson of Abraham, Sarah and Bethuel, the nephew of Ishmael. He was the second-born of Isaac's children, the elder being his fraternal twin brother Esau. However, by deceiving Isaac when he was old and blind, Jacob was able to usurp the blessing that belonged to Esau as the firstborn son, and become the leader of their family.[1] usurp the "blessing" that belonged to Esau as the firstborn son >Esau was the "chosen" son not Jacob, >Jacob is said to have had twelve sons by four women, his wives, Leah and Rachel, and his concubines, Bilhah and Zilpah, who were, in order of their birth, Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin, all of whom became the heads of their own family groups, later known as the Twelve Tribes of Israel, >Jews "claim" to be descendants of Judah. Most are ashkenazi and not even Semitic but I digress, Ego, jews are not Gods chosen. It was literally spelt out in the bible 1000's of years ago >Revelation 3:9 John's letter "To the Church in Philadelphia" >9. Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead. I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I love you. or >1 John 2:22-23 >22Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. SYNAGOGUE who CLAIM to be jews but are LIARS Pretty fucking clear. Kikes have always been shilling their kikery There's obviously much more to this story, but as I said I'm not the best to answer these questions If you truly interested in subject you should check out some christian chan's It is pretty clear Christian faith is actually antisemitic at its core, but mainstream Christianity was corrupted during the middle ages by kike scibes.(example by using the words Judean's and jews as synonymously, they are not the same word ) There are many that take the bible as the "Word of God" and you can not separate those lines from kikes being kikes
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>>459 >splain plz this anon splained well >>462 jesus' "jews" were edomite larpers according to their own adopted scriptures modern day Ashkenazim jews are Japhethites, not Semites. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+10%3A2-4&version=KJV >Among Muslim historians, Japheth is usually regarded as the ancestor of the Gog and Magog tribes, and, at times, of the Turks, Khazars, and Slavs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhetites to call Nordics "Japethites" is a bit of a stretch -- the OT biblical world went as far north as Turkey and the greek isles while the NT "world" was the roman empire; bantu niggers, chinks, eskimos, aztecs, etc. were nonentities - the biblical "world" dealt with that particular author's immediate "world"
>>462 >the stolen blessing Doesn't that say much when they proudly cite a religious book that black-on-white states they are usurpers? What is there to say of Christians and Muslims who respect that and identify themselves to that? >Most are ashkenazi and not even Semitic but I digress Semitic. Needs to be clarified. Those who have the most obvious Semitic features are less numerous in the American and European Jewish communities, whereas in Israel they are more numerous. But if there's an error that needs to be corrected as often as possible, it's the idea that Ashkenazim Jews have nothing genetically related to Semites. That's a classic error and totally false, that of "they are just converts". It's not hard to find typical Jewish features in certain Ashkenazim. True, some seem dimmed, obviously because of genetic mixing, but they always have at least one or two which can be spotted if you look closely. Features they share with their browner counsins. Those German and Eastern Jews were obviously more than just converts. The rotten aristocracy of the Khazar empire probably got enchanted by the shekels brought by the Southern Jews—I suspect some came from Persia, others maybe from places such as Ukraine or simply from all the settlements that stretched from Rome to Anatolia. It's likely that the high ranking Jews progressively intermarried with the Khazarian upper class like they always do and that's when they notably acquired a more Asiatic and whitish outlook, which got reinforced later on throughout the centuries when they settled again in Venice, then the North and Center of Europe in the Netherlands, Belgium, Poland and Germany. Usually, they always have something that looks sick about their appearance and facial features. Sometimes it's the very kinky hair, beady eyes, sometimes the thicker lower lip, the non-existant ear lobes or, on the contrary, extremely flabby lobes, the slight olive tint of the skin and often times a horrible grin when they smile. And the obvious winner, the nose, although yes, it's rarer within the Ashekenazim fraction of their international community. Obviously the more white DNA they have assimilated, the less those features stick out, but they're often times there. There's also the endogamy parameter that plays into this, with the more Levantine types having married with their European counterparts and having share their facial features. > jews are not Gods chosen. It was literally spelt out in the bible 1000's of years ago Yes, but they're still of the blood of Isaac and their god still is Yahweh. Yes, the story is truly a mess, and a pathetic one at that. Them being a race of thieves, they surely consider this trick a mark of the superior intellect and therefore legitimate. So they pray to a god of which they stole something sacred. Isn't it totally ridiculous? >SYNAGOGUE who CLAIM to be jews but are LIARS That is another problem because even if they may have not been of Judah's tribe, they most likely were Semites of another tribe and still related to Jacob the usurper. As per geographical history, the people who inhabited the territories homonymous of the Tribes' names were full of Semites and mixed-race people who traveled across this region. In other words, some Semites (or Jews) claiming to be more Jewish or the true Jews than other people identified as liars remains an internal political affair that is none of our Aryan business! >It is pretty clear Christian faith is actually antisemitic at its core, but mainstream Christianity was corrupted during the middle ages by kike scibes.(example by using the words Judean's and jews as synonymously, they are not the same word ) There are many that take the bible as the "Word of God" and you can not separate those lines from kikes being kikes You're selling a creed that was rotten BEFORE the medieval times. Romans already called the Jews "Yehudi". These same Yehudi obtained great benefits under Constantine and Theosodius while Pagans were forced to convert. Vulgate and Septuagint provide sufficiently clear elements against early Christianity. Whites never were sinners and even IF our ancestors needed spiritual help and salvation, then any true messenger should have wandered across Europe, not the Middle East. We're not going to bow before a more or less stolen, poly-then-monotheistic, Canaanite godlet, as described in the Old Testament.
>>466 >Japhethites, not Semites See here >>467 Northern Jews didn't pop into existence in the middle of Europe just like that. They kept moving West and North, acquiring strands of DNA from the people they rubbed their bodies against. Sometimes Jews convert goyim but after a while, the converts while dissolve into the Jewish community. Also, orthodox Jews never accept those converts as real Jews anyway, and this applies to the children too. Now, on the opposition between Japhethites and Semites, this could be truer only if we strictly refer to the lineages, that of Japheth and Shem, according to the tablets of nations. But they all sprout from the same stem. As for "historians" mixing Turks, Khazars (a cosmopolitan group with a large quantity of Turko-Asiatic people) and Slavs (Whites for all intents and purposes), there's nothing good to say of them or their respectability.
>>468 They mixed up Turks and Slavs because both lived in the steppe and in general had little knowledge of their actual language, plus Turks were at the time a nomadic confederation living in a mostly white land. Central Asia and Transoxania used to be white, still was after the first Turkic invasions, and in many cases still is (the Yaghnobi people for example) Both Ashkenazi and Sephardi jews come from the same ancestors, the earliest jews in Rome, who later migrated to either Spain, or Germany/north France. The ones coming to Russia and Poland came straight from the middle east. As for the Khazars, you're mostly right. The Khazars didn't consider themselves jews, in a letter to the rabbi of Cordoba they wrote in Hebrew that they descended from Togarmah who they considered the father of the Turks, so the whole idea that Khazars came to Europe and later became the Ashkenazi jews is nothing but disinfo, as they actually claimed descent from Judah.
>>467 >poly-then-monotheistic Oh yes, this is also worth commenting on. It's similar to how the pre-Islamic Arabs worshipped Allah but also worshipped other gods. The thing with Israeli polytheism is that it wasn't even not worshipping Jehovah, it was worshipping other gods while acknowledging him as the creator. So they attribute the fertility goddess as God's wife, or claim that there are just lesser gods that could still be worshipped. This is where the whole conflict in Kings comes from, monotheism vs henotheism and polytheism acknowledging a single creator god.
>>469 >Both Ashkenazi and Sephardi jews come from the same ancestors, the earliest jews in Rome, who later migrated to either Spain, or Germany/north France. The Sephardim are definitely more oriental looking than their Yiddsh-speaking brothers. They had a longer connection with Southern peoples around the Mediterranean sea. Ashekenazim certainly became whiter through intermarriage, which would most logically be with rich Jewish men putting their hands on some shiksas, and then sometimes producing a not too disgusting daughter which even a white man might find somewhat attractive enough. True Khazars might have converted but it's hard to assess how much this trickled down to the whole population over their empire. It is much expected that no leading elite of a country would so massively turn towards Judaism, if there wasn't already a considerable Jewish influence, at least financial, which as we know would sooner or later translate into a cultural and philosophical influence. With the proximity of the Khazar empire with Eastern Europe, I would not dismiss the movement of Jews and half-Jews out of this empire westward, especially as said empire was on its way out.
>>470 >The thing with Israeli polytheism is that it wasn't even not worshipping Jehovah, it was worshipping other gods while acknowledging him as the creator. this is hentotheism. jehovah was a tribal god, as equally valid as every other tribal god --- "let us make man in our image" --- "let us go down and fuck up their language" --- all of the gods did these deeds in concert. he ranted about being a jealous god and made it a primo sin to worship other gods before him (but i guess it was okay to worship them second, third, fourth, etc.). they basically took bits and pieces from every culture they encountered/got enslaved by and their concept of god took on new aspects with each encounter so then you have jehovah going from being a minor tribal deity to being the conqueror of gods to being the god of gods to being the only god that ever existed amen and glory hallelujah
>>371 Glad to see a fellow vedicshill here, its so lonely on the internet sometimes. But yeah there is no system of religion and philosophy that is more complete and comprehensive and aryan than krishna worship. Simply read bhagavad gita as it is by srila prabhupada apply its principles and everything in your life will be so much nicer you will see
>>498 Something I finished last night: a commentary-free Brahma-Samhita. I cp'd the verses, then fixed the transliteration errors, some formatting then exported as pdf and epub. Here is pdf and related image that goes with
>>350 I have several books on Zoroastrianism here: >>624
>>498 Does it teach to fight for the whites and remove jews and go as far as to crush them to some small residue to dump into a dustbin, preferably close to some volcano?
It's a belief system in a better white world, it's white nationalism with a pinch of imperialism, it pushes for the realization that whites are Nature's finest so there is an undeniable sense of pride to be cultivated here, assuming we're worthy of it. It advocates for letting non-whites prove they're worth their salt and give them nothing invented or produced by whites, no mission to civilize niggers or feed chinks or pajeets. It's also clearly anti-Jew, identified as a great threat. It argues for sane mental and physical health, for proper ecology, is very NS on this regarding folk and family. It does not shun modern science and high technology either but logically argues it has to be put under white control and moderated. It is devoid of any spirituality despite calling itself a religion, which most people automatically translate as "system of spiritual belief". In other words it's a very secular array of methods and convictions that could be organized into a codex and which any white government would be welcome to apply, assuming a proper white spirituality would actually wrap all of this.


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