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Conflicting Interpretations on Serpents Anonymous 01/18/2020 (Sat) 03:26:14 ID:a1b404 No. 589
Through-out Indo-European/Aryan civilizations, mainly from the Northern territories all the way to Mesopotamia, there are depictions of serpents in both ancient relics as well as various forms of art. However, this particular sacred depiction of the critter obviously contradicts the NSDAP's propaganda. If the National Socialists regarded the jew as a snake of sorts (I personally prefer the term "rat"), then why have serpents been depicted in unison with the swastika long ago, among other things? What exactly am I missing here? Forgive my apparent lazyness, but I doubt this specific answer I'm looking for is easily found. I'm not very resourceful and have trouble trusting sources in regards to kikes for obvious reasons.
>>589 Consider that snakes are Dravidian in origin. You'll find on deep inspection that most Snake-oriented mythopoetries are Austronesian, Aboriginal, African, Dravidian. In a word: niggery. There's a whole book on this, unfortunately not on libgen or b-ok (yet) (picrel) Basically the traditions with cosmic snakes and nagas and stuff tend to be nigger traditions, or "Pan-Gaean", and associated with the non-planetary stars. The "Laurasian" traditions tend to be Indo-European as well as Mongol-Turkic. There's even evidence that pre-monotheistic Semites were into snake cults (probably from being so physically close to Africa)
>>589 As an additional note, the swastika is a pair of hammers in Rodnoverie and Germanic mythopoetry, while it is also a Solar Disc image otherwise. That's in high contrast to the Cosmic Serpent which is a night-sky symbol, specifically of The Milky Way.
>>590 >In a word: niggery. This is amusing considering that I actually forgot to add in the OP that the African nigger voodoo, which Dr. Pierce also mentions, is based on snake-worship, more or less.
>>589 >>592 Sorry, a bit distracted today, forgot to address your central claim directly: I would suggest reading Psychedelic Shamanism by DeKorne (on libgen &c) for a quickie version, and perhaps Eliade's books fir more detail BUT-- Shamans and Priests both tend to use iconography that reflects the whole of the categories of experience, in order to work with these elements in ritual and vision, abstractly. So you will see as many anti-survival or "evil" icons as pro-survival or survival-neutral icons. For example: on a typical mesoamerican style Ceremonial Altar you will see a skull or some bones, icons of spiders and snakes and poisonous dried herbs. This does not indicate that these are objects of reverence in the sense of worship. They are there to represent the forces at play in the universe that must be worked with. Another great book for understanding this that isn't as intense as Eliade would be The Golden Bough by Frazer (should be pretty much anywhere ebooks are incl. Libgen)
What other animal are you going to put there? Rams don't bend that way. It is curious to have snakes making up a Holy Symbol though, even in Japan they are depicted as demons. Yamata no Orochi. Nure-Onna. Uwabami. Benzaiten is very rarely depicted as a White snake but she came from Hindu, and all the native gods like Amaterasu never are. Maybe niggers get bit alot by snakes and think worshipping them will keep them away. "Massa snake please don't bit me I burn ya erbs!"
>>594 Not terribly different from the Indo-European and Turkic reverence for Lions, wolves, bears and eagles.
>>595 Wolves become dogs and are a symbol of loyalty and unity within their pack. Eagles trained become a source of small game and are on their own a symbol of cold power or royalty. Lions are an ideal of raw masculine strength and the natural order the same with bears. They sit at the top of the food chain and do not hesitate to dominate the weak or swipe at a (((Jackal))) in their midsts. What does a snake represent? Other than a sneak. That's like revering a weasel!
>21113 >What does a snake represent? Other than a sneak. "...and associated with the non-planetary stars." "...Cosmic Serpent which is a night-sky symbol, specifically of The Milky Way." I suppose that's your answer. >21112 I'm still not sure why a serpent would be mixed with a swastika. Am I guaranteed to find the answer in these works you recommended?
>>597 I suppose that sense. Like Jörmungandr but I wouldn't say they are viewed as "good" in that conatation mostly as just there and causing natural things like earthquakes. Jör kills Thor in Ragnarok and is a son of Loki making the connentation bad not good. Voodos on the other hand worship snakes like Damballah and view them as good.
>21124 >Voodos on the other hand worship snakes like Damballah and view them as good. Subhumans tend to do that. The contrast in iconography is quite telling and very fitting. Kikes and all the various types of muds are nothing but savage parasites. Not only do they worship "demons" but are so themselves, constantly proving it.
>>599 True, a religion reflects the people. Their biological traits are different from ours and thus they worship "Gods" who reflect and enforce those traits (greed, self intrest, savagery ect). Making their God's our Demons. Since at the end of the day, all gods came from and were accepted by man.
>>589 Who the fuck gives a shit? Our race is dying and you niggers are talking about snakes. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.
>>589 Snakes are recognized as natural forces that need to be subdued and controlled, rather than being controlled by them. Thus the Aryan masters the snake, while the non-Aryan is mastered by it.
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>>601 >Who the fuck gives a shit? You could ask the same of several other posts here, yet you probably don't. Being informed on many topics is never a bad thing. You should try it sometime.
>>601 And those principle in killing it have a religion, understanding the basics of religions and their symbolism is helpfull as seen above: >>600
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>>593 >For example: on a typical mesoamerican style Ceremonial Altar you will see a skull or some bones, icons of spiders and snakes and poisonous dried herbs. This does not indicate that these are objects of reverence in the sense of worship. They are there to represent the forces at play in the universe that must be worked with. Makes sense, but there is one problem: The mongoloid injuns. They clearly were not as sophisticated as the mainstream claims. Speaking of which, pic related: >The Chachapoyas, also called the "Warriors of the Clouds", was a culture of the Andes living in the cloud forests of the Amazonas Region of present-day Peru. The Inca Empire conquered their civilization shortly before the Spanish conquest in the 16th century.
>>603 >Being informed on many topics is never a bad thing <noshit.jpg >You should try it sometime <back to reddit >You could ask the same of several other posts here Indeed, I left for a couple weeks and the front page is littered with this intellectual circle jerking. I get it, I put you on the defensive. Ask yourself if you will remember this conversation you're having about snakes in 5 years. It doesn't matter. It is irrelevant and you know it. We can discuss snakes when we have an ethnostate. This is not the time for analysis of the meaning of snakes unless we're deciding whether to put them on our flag.
>>602 This. In vedic culture the snake was a symbol of prana, energy, sexuality, and general evilness. Mankinds battle with the serpent is symbolic of his battle of his immaterial spirit being contaminated by the material (snake) energy.
>>602 This. >>596 >What does a snake represent? Other than a sneak. Energy, the passage of time, or the cosmos. >>590 Are Hermes and the Egyptian Ogdoad niggery? I think not. The Dravidians applying snake imagery to the Aryan conception of kundalini is the most relatable way to describe it to the masses. >>607 >and general evilness It’s not inherently evil, it just is. Is electricity evil? Is a tick evil? They’re annoying, but not evil. Only Abrahamites think the snake is evil. >>589 (checked) Context matters, read a book nigger.
>>609 >Context matters. Read a book nigger. I'm well aware of that, which is why I asked why serpents are shown mixed with swastikas. I think I got my answer by now, though. Thank you, faggot.
>>606 Ultimately, you are right. I would point out a certain dilemma relative to this, but fuck it. Godspeed, anon.
>>611 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlXXKfrM_Ow Niggers itt need to watch Conan to learn everything you need to know about snakes.
>>21055 First thing first. Germany was immensely Christian back then and in this context the snake is simply a terrible thing. It's the Devil. Moving on to Ophidism. Much more positive therein. The Great Snake can be considered somehow related to the Primordial Egg (unless it's the Cosmic Pigeon?). In Nordskjx, you can see serpents at the end of the hofs' rooftops. Chans (sneks again) are relative to Votan/Wotan in C./N. America. Plus several orders and brotherhoods related to the serpents. Snakes... the change of skin. The indication of an initiatory chain.
>>598 Jörmungandr represents endless and self-destructive consumption. It is poisonous. You could, I guess, liken it to Capitalism and how the Earth itself is being polluted and destroyed this way. Thör represented the people and their crops among other things, so it makes sense that he faces what destroys the source of life of the people and pollutes the lands. Nidhögg is quite a negative creature, but after the war, in some versions of the Edda it unites with the general regal power (unnamed eagle) and even flies away. Creatures being negative do not mean that the species they belong to is to be seen negatively. Odinn has his own two wolves Gerri and Freki, tamed, but gets killed by an untamed and power hungry gigantic wolf, Fenrir. Potentially negative forces become useful and positive once subdued and put under the control of wisdom and solar powers.
>>590 The caduceus is nigger too (actually double nigger), right?
>>589 Bump


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