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Anti-Abrahamism General /aag/ Blackshirt 04/03/2021 (Sat) 17:39:05 ID:b84e53 No. 1395
This thread is for combatting and deprogramming individuals from jewish ideologies, particularly Christianity. Christianity is irreconcilable with White racial politics and National Socialism. It is necessarily universal in all respects, downplays the value of life, makes one worship a jew as their lord and savior, and worst of all preaches ethics fit for weaklings. The strong, beautiful, superior, etc are all denigrated before the jewish imposter god. It must be said that Christianity is among one the greatest enemies of racial regeneration, and cannot be viewed seperately from the problem of the JQ. I urge Christians to realize that they been deceived.
>ethics fit for weaklings. The strong, beautiful, superior, etc are all denigrated before the jewish imposter god. So basically everyone is forced to be all strong and mighty and people are born different? That isn't to say that Whites can't be together under one identity. But there's weaklings in any society. They're just born that way.
>>1406 > So basically everyone is forced to be all strong and mighty and people are born different? Both a strawman and a reductio ad absurdum in a sentence as short as this one. This anon is a special kind of schizo.
>>1408 Triggered Christcuck with no arguments. Don't bother to come back to reply, you have to worship your jew savior nailed to a cross tomorrow while your pope sells you to globohomo.
>>1418 Rather you were triggered by my mere mention of Christianity yesterday so you created this thread :^)
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Look at this, there is no way you can honestly tell me Christianity isn't literally a marxist death cult.
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>2019 christcucks not even once also christcucks: >OMG dood why dont u like my proto marxist death cult of 66 books written by jews from the desert its been soobverted and nothing else and lol Ur D&C 4 pointing this out!!!! CHRISTCUCKS ARE FUCKING RETARDS
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>>1438 Codex Theodosianus is subversion too huh? >>1435 Nope. It was the Christcuck cult's dirty semitic revenge against all pagans AKA good White people who built the first high-functional civilizations already in 312"AD" and the fall of the Roman empire happened a mere 100 years later. Codex Theodosianus is literally just like communism in 1918, redistribution(stealing) etc. I suggest your stop making excuses for it like it's some harmless baby and stop identifying yourself with the cuck religion named Christianity or take your kike vampire religion elsewhere.
>>1406 >So basically everyone is forced to be all strong and mighty and people are born different? As the other anon said, this is a complete strawman. The Bible is pure slave morality and denigrates the superior, strong, intelligent and beautiful. Yahweh does not love Aryans, he loves oppressed low-IQ mud people. It’s the exact foundation leftism is based on. 1 Corinthians 1:27-29: <But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. <God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are, <so that no one may boast before him.
>>1438 >muh subversion It literally says right in the Bible that God loves weaklings, retards and freaks to shame the strong, intelligent and those who are perfection manifestations of their potential. Jesus Christ himself taught that you should hate your family, that you should love your enemies, not plan for the future and that you should give up your cloak if someone wants to take it from you and that you should just be a complete fucking doormat. Jesus Christ was a hippie jew who hung out with whores, lepers and other vagrants and who is indistinguishable from commie gutter trash that we see today in many cities. The Bible also tells us that there are no men, no women, no jew or Greek, no free or slaves—we’re all (((one))) in Jebus. It’s so fucking embarrassing that people engage in so much cognitive dissonance and can’t realize that they are literally worshiping a jew, and that they practice a form of leftism propagated to destroy the Roman Empire
>>1449 keep seething. i knew you'd make this thread before you did. there's plenty more anti-Christian information you can post. better get back to work. i've seen most of these images before. you got anything new?
>>1453 Christianity is the prototype of Bolshevism. Marxism is secular Christianity.
>>1453 >i knew you'd make this thread before you did. Truly prescient, given the fact that this is literally a remake of a thread from Anon Cafe, newfag: https://archive.fo/D4Nxh You have no rebuttals. Christians have no rebuttals. /fascist/ is a pagan fundamentalist board, and Christians have to deal with it. Their jew-worship is not tolerated here. It is exposed. And if you don’t provide arguments, but only 4cuck-tier posts about “seething” your posts will likely be deleted in the near future and then Christcucks will cry about censorship
>>1458 i am enjoying myself immensely. i do not care to argue, i am bumping your thread and providing room for you to flesh out your arguments. your seriousness and inability to see my joking and playful nature are surprising for someone of such supposed intellectual prowess. go ahead, delete my replies, clean up the thread. Pagan Fundamentalism is the way of the White Man!
>>1459 >i do not care to argue, Leave.
>>1460 >anti-abrahamism general (AAG) enjoy your echo chamber, you haven't deprogrammed shit.
>>1459 >>1461 >deliberately comes in thread he does not like >get owned >"i was only pretending to be retarded" >non mainstream religion discussion = echo chamber We've been over this, you people never provide any argument of value, you refuse to actually reform away from this marxist jew worship by calling yourselves something else, your cultist religion sucks, all the people that are obsessed with it are women and weak idiots who literally never did anything, and don't care about their race or anything except literally waiting to die like good obedient slave goys to get sent to some place dreamt up by some jew who had his followers scheme now for at least a thousand years to categorically murder millions of Europeans who didn't agree with it. Cuckstianity has been failing us so it's not worth caring about or defending whatsoever, if you had some reflection skills you'd understand why nobody likes it. And if you're one of those retards who think for a second that your religion matters more than race you're literally just another retarded faggot. And by default that's what cuckstian hypocrites do because they live in this giant contradiction that tells them a fairy tale meanwhile they refuse to deal with human biology.
>>1459 >Pagan Fundamentalism is the way of the White Man! Yes.
>>1449 >Bible that God loves weaklings, retards and freaks to shame the strong, intelligent and those who are perfection manifestations of their potential. I understand that the strong people wouldn't like that. But in return what is the solution for all this? Extermination of said weaklings?
>>1468 Not anon, but this is a subject I've had a lot of experience with. Weaklings exterminate themselves. Even in the "equality"-based modern world, there's plenty unfit to live, physically, mentally, or emotionally, and they either give into death, or destroy that weakness and reforge themselves. I've dealt with genuine subhumans in the past, think meme-tier obese neet spiritual virgins, who, when exposed to people with a healthy attitude of self-improvement and self-mastery, actually got up and changed their lives. Weakness and strength are in many ways inherent, and they are present in many aspects and areas of a person, but the biggest measure of strength is a person's will, that alone can literally shit on every other "weakness" you may have, physical or otherwise. A system of weakness, like the "equal" modern world that encourages stagnation and mediocrity, literally smothers that personal will out of a person. Being faced with struggle and criticism might not feel good at first, but people rise up against those things, and the satisfaction when you overcome them is real.
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>>1420 >implying I am the OP >>1468 No, the solution is to help the weaklings of your own tribe exclusively and prevent more weakling from being created (Spartans did it millennia ago) via application of specific policies, aka actual eugenics, not the twisted globohomo kike version of eugenics called White Genocide. Globohomo suppresses the highest IQ functional race in favor of lower slave races, while we should be doing the opposite. The only relationships we should have with other races are commercial ones, sure as fuck we should not supposed to drain our wealth, or give our inventions and now our lands to these subhumans.
>>1468 No, how does that logically follow? All that is being pointed out is how Abrahamism strives to negate these things, things which are integral parts of life. Why do they seek to destroy everything beautiful, strong, intelligent, masculine and powerful? Abstracting away from their false religion, the obvious answers are envy and resentment, the seeds of slave morality. jewish values (esp. the ones forced onto the goyim) are inversions of natural, healthy modes of being for their opposites, thus leftists (being themselves offspring of Abrahamism) seek to affirm weakness, idiocy, degeneracy and the effeminate. I don’t mean this in a rude way, but you instantly jumping to “ah so you want to exterminate all of the weak” is itself a sign of Abrahamic thought processes. I don’t believe that we can ever have a world that will be of one type of person. Nature is ruled by inequality, differentiation and hierarchy. Within groups there are stronger and weaker elements. Women are weaker than men, and have traits that, if present in men, would be undesirable, but that doesn’t mean women should be exterminated obviously. They are valuable and integral parts of our race, and we recognize this. The Natural Order is characterized both by struggle between individuals and groups just as much as it is characterized by its opposite, i.e. harmony. Abrahamics seek monotony. Their religion itself is a monolith. They believe the good and the bad will be sorted into monotonous eternal existences of eternal suffering or eternal heaven. They believe truth can only be approached in one single way—their way. They are quite literally proto-globohomo. They are haters of life. Meanwhile we who reject this jewish creed can affirm it all, the strong, the weak, the struggle, the harmony, the suffering, the pleasure.
>>1481 >pic shows how women were treated So women should be treated like that or what? Not saying they should be stronk and independent but to be totally nigger tier towards women is just a sorry excuse for being a nigger. Also, you say how we must affirm all around us - the weak, the strong etc. How does one affirm the weak? By coddling him? What do you suggest?
>>1481 >if present in men, would be undesirable There are some feminine men I've noticed in society before. They're not gay but just feminine.
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>>1487 >pic shows how women were treated According to who? You realize that that image is a quote from a jew attacking White traditional religious beliefs and their modern revivals, don't you? It was only posted because it was funny. The jew is trying to evoke the image of the caveman. This is a classic tactic that they take. Many jews outright identify civilization with Judaism itself, as can be seen in classic pics like the one I have attached. >>1488 Still undesirable male traits regardless of whether they are fags are not.
>>1491 It looks like my ID changed. I'm still >>1481
>>1491 The guy you replied to does have a point though, just take a look through the /aag/ thread. The confusion is warranted. The first image you posted does more to describe what you mean than what you wrote, so I do understand what you're getting at.
>>1493 I guess in most cases it is natural to assume that the image one posts is directly associated with the content of the post, so you might have a point about the confusion being warranted. It also doesn't help that it's funny because it's not entirely wrong. The more masculine image of some of the pagan religions is definitely probably a selling point for some men, especially because Christianity is viewed as weak and passive in comparison. The jew of course takes it to absurd dimensions in that quote though. >>1487 >How does one affirm the weak? By coddling him? What do you suggest? Hierarchy, etc. By affirming the weak, I mean acknowledging that this exists and realizing that it is an integral part of the world that we live in more than anything else.
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>>1463 >owning le christcucks epically!!! Lol. 99% of anti christian arguments are just calling Jesus and Christiaity jewish and sharing some retard fake Christian who promotes anti racism /faggotry /whatever >>1454 Considering this claim was started by lolberts who think that the Bible saying "pay taxes" is communism, I'll take that with a grain of salt >>1439 jews of the Bible are the same of the jews of today Nice indirect shilling of Zionism. Bet you think that American Indians and Indians are the same because they are both called Indians >Religion above race Ironically, most pagans shove away Christians with their "hurr you can't be Fascist and a Christian" nonsense talk. Plus they put their pagan pseudo religion above not splitting the Fascist movement yet again for useless shit. Fascist Christians never feel the need to split the movement again, so why do pagans? Is it ignorance or cunning? The "weak are superior" argument is the one shipped by atheist neoliberals. To be in a state of innocence and the "right path" are two different things. The model path of a Christian is a spiritual one who makes the most productive time of his life on earth, preventing decay from taking hold. >Christianity was created by jews to destroy the Roman Empire Sure, 12 dudes used magic powers to predict that Constantine would adopt Christianity as the religion, which somehow inflated the dinarii , made roman politics a mess and crushed the military by lack of finance-somehow, so they all went forward and risked death.... In order to die for a fairy tale they supposedly made up >No judean, no Greek etc This is why you have a distinction between nation and religion. If Europe turned norse pagan and Odin said that there is no German, there is no Sweden for you are all brave in Valhalla, is that a promotion of equality? >Oh he hung out with whores and tax evaders And what did he do to them? Did he 'tolerate' them? No, he changed them and made them normal and morally healthy. And fuck off with your retarded images we both know how dishonest it is. Pic rel
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>>1553 >Considering this claim was started by lolberts who think that the Bible saying "pay taxes" is communism, I'll take that with a grain of salt Christianity dishonesty on full-on display here, especially since in Acts 4:32-35 we see literally communism being practiced: <Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. <33 And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. <34 There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold <35 and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. People long before lolberts pointed out the numerous and undeniable similarities between communists and Christians, among them Nietzsche and Hitler himself. In truth, it has very, very little to do with 'render unto Caesar'. >jews of the Bible are the same of the jews of today >Nice indirect shilling of Zionism. Bet you think that American Indians and Indians are the same because they are both called Indians "We're duh reel jooz, and if you call jews jews, you're a joo!" Shut the fuck up, faggot. Kikes have been pulling this shit for millennia, it's shown all over your Bible and has been extremely well-documented by Alfred Rosenberg in his work 'The Track of the jew Through the Ages'. Stop coping. Jesus a full-blown kike. This doesn't even imply Zionism either unless you believe that people are entitled to a land by mere fact of existing - which they're not. Might is right here. >Ironically, most pagans shove away Christians with their "hurr you can't be Fascist and a Christian" nonsense talk. You can't. Them turning away from Fascism just shows that they prioritize their branch of Judaism above racial survival. >Plus they put their pagan pseudo religion above not splitting the Fascist movement yet again for useless shit. You only think it is "useless" because your ilk are the ones being targeted. Christians have proven themselves to be a subversive, anti-White force time and time again, both historically and today.
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>>1553 >Sure, 12 dudes used magic powers to predict that Constantine would adopt Christianity as the religion, which somehow inflated the dinarii , made roman politics a mess and crushed the military by lack of finance-somehow, so they all went forward and risked death.... In order to die for a fairy tale they supposedly made up Jesus was yet another jewish messiah claimaint, and his movement was hijacked by the jew Saul of Tarsus and used for his own purpose. Paul was trained under the rabbi Gamaliel and was a literal Pharisee agent. The entire Christian versus jew conflict is not based on race at all, it's all about whether one accepts some jewish hippie as a messiah or not. jewish infighting. There were multiple jewish sects in the time of Jesus. Sadducees, Pharisees, Essenes, etc. It was subversion and it got to the heights of power and was imposed on Europe from the top-down. The non-White world was eventually colonized, but all of Europe was the first victim of colonial subversion from a jewish religion in Rome. jews were already widespread in the Roman Empire and able to organize. Even in the ancient world the jews of the Roman Empire and beyond were networked tightly together by living along trade routes and the major cities of the Empire. Nearly 40% of Alexandria population – a major ancient city – was jewish in Roman times. Many jews lived in Rome itself. Even before the change over from BC to AD jews ringed the entire Mediterranean Sea. Rosenberg quotes a jewish historian: >after a few centuries", as the jewish historian Herzfeld reports, "and in general without any visible compulsion from outside, the jews were settled in all terrains from Media to Rome, from Pontus to the Persian Gulf, from Macedonia to Ethiopia, and in this enormous range of countries there was no significant commercial city in which jews were not represented". So here we see that jews formed a web over the core of the Aryan gentile world – Rome and beyond – even in antiquity. Already jewish influence was spreading among gentiles, the so called “Yirei Hashem” – the God-fearers seen in Acts. They weren’t full converts though, because they couldn’t adopt jewish law or were unwilling due to things such as circumcision and kosher laws. Paul overthrew i all. He wanted the goyim to convert and with as much ease as possible. He was the so-called “Apostle to the Gentiles” after all! >This is why you have a distinction between nation and religion. If Europe turned norse pagan and Odin said that there is no German, there is no Sweden for you are all brave in Valhalla, is that a promotion of equality? Yes. >And what did he do to them? Did he 'tolerate' them? No, he changed them and made them normal and morally healthy. "Normal and morally healthy" lol
Thank Bhaga that I am not a norse pagan and my beliefs are too esoteric for faggots to latch on to.
>>1580 No attempt to cause discord and division of course. I just find it sad that queers are trying to subvert Nordo-Celtic culture and religion.
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>>1581 >>1580 The internet creates little pockets of mental illness and degeneracy all over the place. The fact that the jews are turning the gods into comic book characters and action figures doesn't help matters. On top of this New Age faggots and Wicca-shit really taints the image of paganism in the minds of some. Paganism among Europeans is still developing though. Still being reborrn. We should not pay the subverters and freaks much heed. They should be shunned and exposed though.
>>1395 This thread is pretty kike'd. Plenty of Christians are redpilled on the JQ. Hitler himself claimed to be Catholic several times.
>>1594 >Hitler himself claimed to be Catholic several times In public, to manipulate the simple minded into voting to save their own hides for once. In private, no. Lurk more, simple minded tourist.
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>>1594 >This thread is pretty kike'd. Says the jew worshiper. >Plenty of Christians are redpilled on the JQ. Christian anti-Judaism =/= biological anti-semitism. Christians believe that if you baptize a jew he’ll magically become a “brother in Christ”. Same with niggers and spics too of course. Galatians 3:28, etc. >Hitler himself claimed to be Catholic several times. Hitler was most assuredly not a Christian. The proof can be found in Table Talk, and even if one for some retarded reason i.e. cope rejects Table Talk’s legitimacy, the writings of many of Hitler’s closest associates make rather matter-of-fact remarks concerning Hitler’s hostility to Christianity: Christa Schroeder, secretary to Hitler: <“The Church was always a favourite topic. Hitler had no affiliation. He considered the Christian religion to be a hypocritical trap which had outlived its time. His religion was the Law of Nature.” August Kubizek, friend of Hitler: <“He could not imagine for himself a finer existence than that lived by these radiant heroes of early German history. He identified himself with the great men of this vanished epoch. Nothing appeared more worthy of the struggle than a life like theirs, full of brave acts of great consequence, the most heroic life possible, and from there to enter Valhalla and so become an immortal of myth, joining those already present whom he so venerated. This strange, romantic perspective of Hitler’s thinking should not be overlooked. In a world of harsh political reality, the tendency will be to reject these youthful musings as fantasies, but the fact remains, despite everything at this time of his life, that Adolf Hitler’s personality dwelt only in the truly pious beliefs to which the German heroic sagas had introduced him.” Inside The Third Reich Memoirs by Albert Speer Chief Architect <"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us, then Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness" Otto Dietrich Chief press secretary - The Hitler I knew Memoirs of the Third Reich's Press Chief <He was sharply hostile to christianity and the churches. Primitive Christianity he declared, was the 'first jewish-communistic cell' Hitler was convinced that Christianity was out-molded and dying. He thought he could speed its death by systematic education of German youth" And on top of all of this, why, in a country that was over 95% Christian at the time, was Hitler so utterly surrounded by pagans? Rosenberg, Bormann, Himmler. Before 1933 the Ludendorffs, etc. Hitler also personally donated large sums of money to a Nietzsche museum and there are photos of him standing for pictures in front of the bust. Nietzsche was an extreme anti-Christian. STOP INSULTING HITLER BY ASSOCIATING HIM WITH PROTO-BOLSHEVISM
>>1598 Announcing you're a shitskin, then?
>>1598 Fuck off back to /pol/, newfag. Christians are not welcome on /fascist/. We don’t tolerate jews of any variety
>>1604 >says the newfag coming into an pre-existing community and crying about his rabbi
>>1606 What is more important for each point: >your religion or your race? >a White Europe or a Christian Europe? >marrying your daughter to a Christian regardless of race or a White pagan / atheist No pilpuling us :^)
>>1608 >1)The truth Translated from Hebrew: “not my race, Christianity”
>>1609 Not sure why my ID is changing back and forth, but I’m not doing it on purpose, see >>1492
>>1611 Yup, just what I expected you to say.
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>>1597 >jew worshipper Jesus was killed for preaching against the jews of his time. jews hate Jesus. >Christians believe that if you baptize a jew he’ll magically become a “brother in Christ” These are jews who have denounced their jewry. Even Hitler and Mussolini accepted some jews, as they had turned their backs on jewry. Your reasons given for Hitler not being Christian are mainly based on what others said, including Bormann, the spy. Hitler pushed a Positive Christianity and claimed to be a Catholic several times. This is a fact that you jew infiltrators hate. Many officers even wore the phrase "God with us" on their belts.
>>1613 >These are jews who have denounced their jewry. LITERALLY DEFENDING “GOOD JEWS” >Jesus was killed for preaching against the jews of his time. jews hate Jesus. In Jesus' time there were many, many sects of jews, and not all of them agreed on everything. We had Sadducees, Pharisees and Essenes. Essenes were an ascetic jewish community living out at Qumran. They hated the Temple Judaism of the Pharisees and Sadducees just like Jesus. Christians will pretend that Pharisees = jews, period, and not Jesus, Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes = jews. These other jews were jewish supremacists just as much as the other ones today. Some jews hated jews and then declared “ur not reel jooz, we are!”. Christianity is this LARP going on 2,000 years later Jesus didn’t fulfill the jews prophecies about the Messiah (didn’t bring jews back to Israel, didn’t establish NWO in Jerusalem, didn’t destroy and enslave goyim, etc), therefore they rejected him and weaponized this hippie’s teachings for the goyim. As far back as Nietzsche people have realized the trickery of the jews when it comes to “”hating”” Jesus >Your reasons given for Hitler not being Christian are mainly based on what others said, including Bormann, the spy. No proof of the Bormann claims, regardless I gave you four different sources essentially saying the same thing, and I could probably bump it up to five or six if I really tried with Goebbels’ quotes saying the same thing about Christianity from Hitler. These are completely legitimate sources, and there is no reason why they would be lying about this matter. The fact of the matter is that Hitler’s racial nationalism and views of Darwinian struggle and this-worldly affirmations are simply not Christian. It’s as clear as day. >Hitler pushed a Positive Christianity and claimed to be a Catholic several times. Positive Christianity was a complete and utter failure. And people have already BTFO the Catholic claims, as seen here: >>1596. You should be ashamed to even dare to associate Hitler with the pedophiles in the Vatican. >Many officers even wore the phrase "God with us" on their belts. And here we see a Christtard thinking they have a monopoly on God. No one claims Hitler was an atheist.
>>1574 Not anon, but I'd like to note that >no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common We see what this was actually organized as in the Didache. Landowners and householders were expected to offer lodging and food to any christian in need, but this had to be in exchange for work. Specialized trades and crafts were recommended, but if not available, any sort of labor around the estate or on various chores could be substituted, with the bottom line being that <But if he wish to settle with you, being a craftsman, let him work, and so eat; but if he know not any craft, provide ye according to your own discretion, that a Christian may not live idle among you; but if he be not willing to do so, he is a trafficker in Christ. From such keep aloof. Christians were absolutely forbidden from staying idle. To live was to work, to do, and these arrangements in many ways prefigure Fascist triumphs like the Iron Guard's work camps.
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>>1574 >collective sharing among a small group of people is not communism. Is your family communist. >Were the real jews Why do you lot keep claiming that we're larping as jews? The claim here is that the judeans of the past were White, just like the ancient Egyptians and Greeks >Well documented How? >Turning away from fascism The same would be the case for bluepilled pagans if I told them that their religion isn't compatible with Fascism. >Christianity is subversive >Being subverted is the same as subverting Paul was a rabid anti Christian before he turned Christian, his goals weren't prioritising conversion to Judaism but to Christianity, especially since the converts weee looked down upon >>1597 >Book literally edited by a French atheist new conman but is somehow gospel in the minds of pagans because NS has to be pagan no matter what. >Surrounded by pagans Of all the people of the NSDAP high command, only 3 are pagans. >Nietzsche He was also a major judeophile, I don't think hitler had to agree with absolutely everything he said in order to donate to his museum. >>1607 Definitely race. Pagan retardation can be fixed but a broken race cannot. >Converts As jews and niggers are not human, they do not recieve salvation. >Quotes Surprisingly this is the first time I heard of any of these. Could you provide the sources? >To manipulate votes >Hitler lied to the people
>>1620 >Why do you lot keep claiming that we're larping as jews? Because you are. I love how you post 6 christians larping as pagans to be "different" rather than actual Aryanists. >The claim here is that the judeans of the past were White, just like the ancient Egyptians and Greeks And that claim is absolutely false, the Ancient Egyptians were not White or rather Nordic beyond a ruling class, that is the extent of the evidence. The same is true of the Greeks who were originally conquerors of the existent people there in the Grecian peninsula and nearby islands, the first iteration of which miscegenated out of existence, only to eventually be conquered by another tribe of these same Nordic men. The Judeans were always what we now call jews, because prior to modernity the name of a Nation was the name of a people, and as such the reason we call jews, well jews is because that is how the name Judean changed over about 1600 years, and they were always semitic, like the majority of Egypt then and now. >How? Go read the book. >The same would be the case for bluepilled pagans if I told them that their religion isn't compatible with Fascism. \Those people are christians they follow christian morality, good riddance to them and you. >Paul was a rabid anti Christian before he turned Christian, his goals weren't prioritising conversion to Judaism but to Christianity, especially since the converts weee looked down upon Paul was a jew who was a student of a Talmudic Scholar who has a very special title to this day, Rabban meaning Our Master, he actually told his fellow jews to be kind to christains and let the "apostles" live, perhaps because He, Mark and Paul had already worked out how Marks creation(jewsus) could be used as a very potent weapon against the goyim. >Of all the people of the NSDAP high command, only 3 are pagans. They all were Pagans from Hitler on down by the very definition of the word, Goebbels, next in line to be fuhrer, was Anti-christian as well unless you somehow doubt the authenticity of his diaries >He was also a major judeophile, I don't think hitler had to agree with absolutely everything he said in order to donate to his museum. That was because he admired their survival strategy, and objectively speaking it is a marvelous strategy, and he viewed needless hate against anyone as ressentiment, if he were alive today he'd probably be an Ethnoglobalist or as the majority of the NS scene now calls it TOTAL ARYAN VICTORY.
>>1623 >he viewed needless hate against anyone as ressentment >if he were alive today he'd probably be an Ethnoglobalist what
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>>1619 Yes, this is a traditionally Christian concept, but one could just as easily point out how Marxists have celebrated the same idea in developing the idea of 'proto-Bolshevism': <The socialist principle, "He who does not work shall not eat", is already realized; the other socialist principle, "An equal amount of products for an equal amount of labor", is also already realized. But this is not yet communism, and it does not yet abolish "bourgeois law", which gives unequal individuals, in return for unequal (really unequal) amounts of labor, equal amounts of products. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm#s3 To be honest though, this is less of a principle I necessarily disagree with. The Iron Guard's camps were great ideas too.
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>>1620 >Why do you lot keep claiming that we're larping as jews? Because you are. Christianity is a mutant strain of Judaism, you worship a jew as the messiah (i.e. Christ), you worship a Semitic volcano god as the creator of the universe and every single book of the New Testament and Old Testament are written by jewish hands. Don't give us this 'Judean' crap. '''The English word jew is directly descended from Latin 'iudaeus'. If you reborrow an older form of a word that doesn't mean that we're magically talking about different things all of the sudden. >The claim here is that the judeans of the past were White jews are not White and have never been White. All jews alive today can be directly linked with where they came from, and not just in Europe, but in other populations as well such as Yemeni jews, Iraqi jews, etc. >Well documented >How? Rosenberg shows that from the beginning of time - yes, even in your precious Bible, that jews have always been jewing. The image I have attached regarding jewish world domination should make this very clear, though Rosenberg does not go as far as this in his book. >Paul was a rabid anti Christian before he turned Christian, his goals weren't prioritising conversion to Judaism but to Christianity, especially since the converts weee looked down upon Paul never used the word 'Christian'. He understood himself as a jew. His goals were to convert as many goyim as possible to this new strain of Judaism for whatever reasons he had. Already jewish influence was infecting the gentiles in this period of the Roman Empire, but the main problems preventing pagans from converting was jewish law, esp. circumcision and dietary restrictions. Paul went about to say that none of it mattered, and that gentiles could be turned into jews as well. Paul had a subjective experience that no one else could witness and then magically declared himself "Apostle to the Gentiles". Having been taught by the leading rabbi of his day Gamaliel it is only nature to assume that Paul was working to subvert Europeans, especially given the tensions between Rome and the jews during this time. His plot was highly successful. >Of all the people of the NSDAP high command, only 3 are pagans. That is extremely significant given when and where this happened. Plus you neglect Hitler himself, undoubtedly. >He was also a major judeophile, Nietzsche admired the jews for their intelligence and refusal to be written out of history despite multiple attempts to achieve this. However, he saw the attendant culture generated by the jews as a product of their struggle to survive necessarily a reflection of a people brought low. Not something to aspire to. Nietzsche admired the health, beauty, physical prowess lionised by of those living with Master Morality, considered those things as desirable as they said "Yes" to the world rather than the jewish and, by way of inheritance, the Christian (the apotheosis of jewishness) "No". >Quotes The authors are from the people quoted themselves - Schroeder: <He Was My Chief: The Memoirs of Adolf Hitler's Secretary Kubizek: <The Young Hitler I Knew Speer: <Inside The Third Reich Dietrich: <The Hitler I Knew: Memoirs of the Third Reich's Press Chief In fact regarding Dietrich here is an even more extended quote on Hitler and religion that I have attached above. >Hitler lied to the people Skillful means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upaya >>1626 Ethnoglobe is not driven necessarily by irrational hate and resentment. See the fourth pic I have attached.
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>>1623 >they are Christians Nice cope, trying to deflect from the fact that Paganism is just as kiked as the modern church, guess what they're saying is "pagan morality" since they call themselves pagans. And the people in your webms are pagans leaping as Christians >Because you are We don't claim to be so it's not possible. >Egypt Literally everyone in north Africa had heavy amounts of European mixture, and even more for the Levant and most of the northern part of the middle East before the Browning™ began. The word jew was coined in the 6th century to describe them. they started being subversive parasites at the time of the conversions. >Rosenberg said it so it must be true ? >Paul Firstly, he was criticized by the rabbi for actively going against his teachings, as seen by his seething hatred and persecution of the Christian faith. Secondly, that rabbi you were talking about earlier was not a talmundist, the talmund wasn't even written until 500 A.D. Lastly, its not very likely that the apostles would let themselves be hunted down and killed just for a made up story (ignoring extrapostolic proofs) just to convert the goyim into accepting Christianity. >They all were Pagans Yeah, sure, Goring was a Pagan, Heydrich was a Pagan because I said so, right? >Goebbels next in line Blatant lie, the Deputy Fuhrers were Hess and Bormann. To claim that the Goebbels Diaries have not been faked (only photographed from a typewritten document, original "diary" missing) is also claiming that Goebbels organised the Kristallnacht event and lied to Hitler about the progress of the war for fun. >survival strategy <being a parasite antichrist worshipper <what a brilliant strategy for survival <so profound <clearly anyone who points out the jewish evil is just jealous Yeah, no thanks. Again, the point is, Hitler donating to a museum means he supports his improvement of humanity ideas, it doesn't mean proof that he was a Pagan and it definitely does not make him a judeophile.
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Forgot to address this - >>1620 >>Book literally edited by a French atheist new conman but is somehow gospel in the minds of pagans because NS has to be pagan no matter what. I have not personally touched on Table Talk to build my case precisely because of this stupid controversy. There are at least five different sources from people extremely close to Hitler which support the anti-Christian theory, Table Talk aside. And this is only ones that I am personally familiar with, so it should not be taken as comprehensive. Now why is Table almost surely real? I have a few reasons for believing this. Firstly, there is nothing within the work useful to the jews that Hitler says. Though the dates of the monologues within the book are between 1941 and 1944, Hitler NEVER mentions anything about exterminating the jews — something we are told that was in full swing during this time period. While this doesn’t make it true in itself, it is very telling. If TT is a hit-piece or jewish lie agains Hitler, what exactly does it do that makes him look bad? I say nothing at all, indeed it makes him look even better and highly intelligent with how he can speak at such length on such a wide variety of topics ranging from history, philosophy, art, architecture and the ongoing war-effort. Secondly, nothing in TT conflicts with what we know of Hitler from Mein Kampf or his conduct as Führer. The biggest revelation is his criticisms of Christianity, but this is hardly surprising in many ways due to his worldview founded in the Laws of Nature, as well as the people he surrounded himself with (Bormann, Himmler, Rosenberg, etc) — in fact the anti-Christian Hitler would make far more sense given his actions than the opposite. My third reason is that David Irving endorses TT as being authentic, and claims to have seen the original pages. He seems to say that some English translations are potentially dodgy in some respects, but good enough. http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/Hitler/TableTalk010104.html All these taken together, I have little reason to personally doubt them. Most of the people who claim TT is fake are coping Christians from what I have seen. Though don’t take my word for it, if you’re already well-acquainted with Hitler’s worldview go and read Ostara Publication’s edition of it. They are trustworthy
>>1634 >>1634 >Literally everyone in north Africa had heavy amounts of European mixture, and even more for the Levant and most of the northern part of the middle East before the Browning™ began. This is almost as retarded as saying that because there are loads of mestizos in Central and South America that these areas used to be White. >The word jew was coined in the 6th century to describe them. they started being subversive parasites at the time of the conversions. As stated here (which you probably haven't seen yet since I just posted it in the last twenty minutes, the word jew is merely an English reflection of the Latin word for jew : >>1633 >Firstly, he was criticized by the rabbi for actively going against his teachings You're lying again, anon. In Acts 22:3 Paul is still introducing himself proudly as a student of the greatest of rabbis: < “I am a jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city. I studied under Gamaliel and was thoroughly trained in the law of our ancestors. I was just as zealous for God as any of you are today. This was literally after Gamaliel in Acts 5 had the apostles flogged and showed them leniency. He was so well-respected that all of the other Sanhedrin jews went along with his advice. He was a giga-kike 4D-chess master, it's no surprise that he knew what Paul was doing. >survival strategy The jewish survival strategy is superior to that of Europeans today. The jews make a firm in-group / out-group distinction and prioritize the existence and importance of their people above all. This is why they have endured so much, and have been extremely difficult to stamp out. The closest group to this strategy is Muslims and how they act, and again it is extremely successful in promoting their survival. Since you are Christcuck pozzed by universal moral duties, it is no surprise that you cry about their survival strategy.
>>1553 >Posting a pic of some commie wiccan cunt witch subverting paganism Totally 100% accurate guyz
>>1641 It's very important for Christians to realize that there is ample evidence that so-called "witches" were killed in the pagan world. Modern day 'witchcraft' or Wicca is derived from masonic concepts and ideas like Thelema created by homosexual freak and freemason Aleister Crowley. Gardner's Masonic pseudo-religion was partially created for his own sexual reasons too, namely to get girls to prance around naked in the woods. This stuff has nothing in common with Indo-European Natural Law-based religions.
>>1634 >Nice cope, trying to deflect from the fact that Paganism is just as kiked as the modern church, guess what they're saying is "pagan morality" since they call themselves pagans. And the people in your webms are pagans leaping as Christians It's not cope, its the facts and those webm's aren't mine, but those "progressive priests" are in fact truer to the bible and jewsus's lessons than you are. The evidence is how the early Christians acted, which is no different than bolshevists and most christians of any variety today. >We don't claim to be so it's not possible. This is literally the central claim of Christian Aryanists(positive Christkikery reborn) and Christian Identists today, both are batshit insane and they either try to, in the case of the first, just retcon everybody besides maybe Paul as White and not jewish, and in the case of the second use talmudic scholarship and outright false interpretations of the bible to make the claim that "ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE DA REAL JEWS". >Literally everyone in north Africa had heavy amounts of European mixture, and even more for the Levant and most of the northern part of the middle East before the Browning™ began. This is historically false, the semitic hordes were never greatly admixed with Europeans and there are plenty of studies both genetic and archaeological which prove otherwise. >The word jew was coined in the 6th century to describe them. they started being subversive parasites at the time of the conversions. Again just plain false, we have multiple romans talking shit on the jews prior to the Christkike takeover(Julian during this take over) and subsequent collapse of Rome and then the next 1600 years of the religion being the primary vehicle of the destruction of the Aryan/Nordic race. >Rosenberg said it so it must be true Not what I said, I said to read the book. >Firstly, he was criticized by the rabbi for actively going against his teachings, as seen by his seething hatred and persecution of the Christian faith. The other guy covered this better Secondly, that rabbi you were talking about earlier was not a talmundist, the talmud wasn't even written until 500 A.D. Yes here we go with the IT MUST BE WRITTEN TO BE REAL, this is false the Talmud was and still is an oral tradition stretching back to the jews subverting and causing the destruction of Babylon >Lastly, its not very likely that the apostles would let themselves be hunted down and killed just for a made up story (ignoring extrapostolic proofs) just to convert the goyim into accepting Christianity. HAHAHA, you are seriously naive if you think people won't just believe blatantly false shit, especially in a time when literacy was not a common trait and roman records were not accessible to those who weren't literate I mean fuck YOU are an example of that exact phenomenon! >Yeah, sure, Goring was a Pagan, Heydrich was a Pagan because I said so, right? Yes because they acted like Aryan men, despite holding on to a fictional jew. probably a mistake on Hitler's part to allow it but we work with what we have. Blatant lie, the Deputy Fuhrers were Hess and Bormann. Not a blatant lie just because Bormann and Hess were there to take Hitlers place when he could not fulfil the duties of the office does not mean they would be the next Fuhrer, Hitler was setting up a selection process and Goebbels was the second most powerful man in the Reich and one of Hitlers most trusted confidants, and best friend he was the natural choice. >To claim that the Goebbels Diaries have not been faked (only photographed from a typewritten document, original "diary" missing) is also claiming that Goebbels organised the Kristallnacht event and lied to Hitler about the progress of the war for fun. I'll make a whole post(Maybe several) about this, and TT authenticity, as I have something for just this bullshit claim. >Nietzsche ><being a parasite antichrist worshipper ><what a brilliant strategy for survival ><so profound ><clearly anyone who points out the jewish evil is just jealous >Yeah, no thanks. Nietzsche pointed out how your religion is jewish and in fact calleds it the ULTIMATE CONCLUSION OF JUDAISM in an expert well educated and pretty much unarguable against way, yet here you sit as the very Last Man he warned about. >Again, the point is, Hitler donating to a museum means he supports his improvement of humanity ideas, it doesn't mean proof that he was a Pagan and it definitely does not make him a judeophile. who said it did?
Can you imagine wanting to be a jew? Wanting to reject your entire beautiful Europe heritage for some hook-nosed, disgusting Semites living in a desert, claiming that they were White all along?
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Can you really call yourself a National Socialist if your religion dictates or has more control over your life than National Socialism? The National Socialist knows they don't need religions in order to have a spiritual fulfilling life. The National Socialist actively and naturally pursues the highest achievable goals of becoming spiritual enlightened. The National Socialist follows the Eternal Natural way as it is the only way we need to go. The National Socialist doesn't shun the religious — we can only show the religious the path to take. If you don't follow it fine that is what you choose, but don't call your self something your not. Most if not all religions for the National Socialist conflict as most do not honor nature and eternal truth. These man made religions much rather rule over nature and disregard the eternal truth and force it's followers to live and believe in a fantasy land of angels and invisible gods in the clouds. We do not — much care for the fantasy nor do we worry what is in store for us at the end of our life. We are much more concerned about the here and now. We a here to help our people in this world and not the other as we exist here and not there for the time being. Our time and existence in this human form are relatively short here on earth compared to the grand sceheme, age, and existence of the universe. Our lives and existence are merely a blink of an eye for the universe. So why waste this opportunity of life worrying, arguing and deciphering past ancient religions when we can be making history. Become the people that are written in the history books.
>>1635 As I said, it wasn't directly received or edited by any major anti-fascist organisations, so the amount of forgery is limited. But it is still forgery, and Genoud's atheism left a clear trail. >Of judeans The difference in this case is that the word was used to describe the case of the rejection of Jesus. Since this condition is not present before Christ, it is inaccurate to call jews judeans. >quotes Again, I ask for the original documents and the page for each of these because I have never seen this brought up before in similar debates. It was always either a Himmler quote or Table Talks. >>1637 We have evidence of ancient White history in north africa as well as surrounding areas. >Paul and gamaliel I am not. The Talmud itself describes Gamaliel as teaching a student who displayed "impudence in learning". Paul was not only rude to his own teacher, he was a fanatic. >jews showing in group preference Much worse. They seek the eradication of all who are not them, and rely on the empathy shown by normal human beings to survive. They group together to fulfil their goal and do not show any kindness towards the goyim, except when it benefits them (trying to convince humans that they aren't evil). A preference for your own group is fine, nationalism is healthy and vital for a people, but the situation when an Estonian sees a Frenchman dying of hunger, and tells him to fuck off because he is not an Estonian, it isn't good, because it undermines the White unified spirit. >>1641 >posting dishonest images is bad except when I do it
>>1642 We had magical systems, the "Witches" the christians slaughtered were herbalists and healers, and even some seers, I am sure, we never slaughtered them like the christians do, because the majority of them were married and harmless, subversive religious teachings have always been purged from all of our societies like the Oera Linda cultists.
>>1660 This is a good point, and you are right. What the Romans were mostly against was malicious forms of magic, such as crop-charming, curses, degenerate cults or sects, etc. There's an interesting book I have a PDF of where it documents all sorts of happenings in Roman and Greek times involving magic, witchcraft and the like, and how many of the types of stuff described above were punishable by death, bans, book-burnings, etc. Herbalists and healers are certainly not evil just by themselves. This is Christian to say, of course. Regarding seers too, we see them stuff like that in Greece with the oracles.
>>1661 >What the Romans were mostly against was malicious forms of magic, such as crop-charming, curses, degenerate cults or sects, etc. I speak not only of the romans, we have the Galdr and Seidr of the Norse beliefs as well, and their abilities are not well known but if we take the gods to be literal ancestors(they are but it's more complex than them just being ancestors) then the stories of their deeds and power may be a clue to what their abilities were and we also have the Völvas, the born seeresses, women to whom the normal rules do not seem to have applied because of their abilities.
>>1652 >Genoud's atheism left a clear trail. Hitler condemns atheism in Table Talk and puts it on par with communism. Night of 11th-12th July 1941: <Man has discovered in nature the wonderful notion of that all-mighty being whose law he worships. <Fundamentally in everyone there is the feeling for this all- mighty, which we call God (that is to say, the dominion of natural laws throughout the whole universe). The priests, who have always succeeded in exploiting this feeling, threaten punishments for the man who refuses to accept the creed they impose. [...] <We don't want to educate anyone in atheism. 14th October 1941, midday <An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal) >Again, I ask for the original documents and the page for each of these because I have never seen this brought up before in similar debates Nigger, we live in an age where we can download a PDF and find these things within five minutes. All of these books are readily findable online in either EPUB or PDF format. >Paul was not only rude to his own teacher, he was a fanatic. Not hard to see a fanatical jew going off on his own mission to destroy the gentiles apart from the rest, and causing some issues along the way. >Much worse. They seek the eradication of all who are not them, and rely on the empathy shown by normal human beings to survive. Yes. This is merely the dharma of the jew. This is not to say that Europeans should become just like jews to acknowledge that this is their survival strategy, of course. It’s worth realizing that this jewish strategy outcompetes other strategies almost every time though, moralfagging aside, looking at this from a purely survival-centric worldview. We cannot fight someone who cares not about honor by being honorable. This is suicide. jews put the goal of securing the existence of their people as their highest absolute goal, to an extreme extent, to the extent that they will destroy everything to gain power for the shortest instant of time. They are fundamentally a parasitic and sick form of life. Neurotic, ugly and evil.
>>1649 Winning a lawsuit doesn't say much with the kiked court system. The main argument with the authenticity of the Goebbels Diaries isn't bad translation or anything. The problem is 1) It was typewritten and could've easily been edited 2) It is contradictory And for the Table Talks, the major parts quoted, which have been considered the most damaging, are the ones that are to be removed Hitler disliked the main church, and rightfully so, for its misinterpreted texts served to confuse priests who opposed NS under the delusion that it was bad
>>1652 >Much worse. They seek the eradication of all who are not them, and rely on the empathy shown by normal human beings to survive. So wait only the kikes are the bad guys? I figured Whites would be doing the same thing to the other races if weren't the kikes.
>>1663 That's very true. I did not even think of the Germanic pagans, but now that you mention them you're right. These people are certainly not evil. The practices themselves are neutral, but how they are used is the what matters. >>1668 >bad guys This isn't a comic book, and no, jews are not the only enemy we face. I keep seeing people here not being able to understand the reality of eternal struggle in nature, even though this is key to National Socialism > I figured Whites would be doing the same thing to the other races if weren't the kikes. Why would we necessarily need to subvert other groups and destroy them? If we had a reason to destroy them that secured the existence of our people it would be far less objectionable. Just because some other group exists doesn't necessitate to destroying them. jews think that it does though, even if they aren't threatening them
>>1666 >Winning a lawsuit doesn't say much with the kiked court system. this does because its descendants of "Nazi's actually winning a court case, In GERMANY of all places in 2015 and against one of the largest publishing firms in the world Random House but leaving those details out does trivialize it, doesn't it? >The main argument with the authenticity of the Goebbels Diaries isn't bad translation or anything. Nobody said it was >The problem is >1) It was typewritten and could've easily been edited This could be said of any document, even handwritten ones, not a valid claim whatsoever >2) It is contradictory Contradictory with what? HISPUBLIC THOUGHTS AND VIEWS? good luck saying or proving that every man isn't going to display different views in his private diaries than he would publicly. >And for the Table Talks, the major parts quoted, which have been considered the most damaging, are the ones that are to be removed Which parts? all the ones that shit on your jewish relgion? >Hitler disliked the main church, and rightfully so, for its misinterpreted texts served to confuse priests who opposed NS under the delusion that it was bad Hitler Disliked Christianity and outlines why quite well why in Mein Kampf even though it is obvious that he or his editors lightened the language or took swathes out to avoid triggering the niggers like you who would go on and on about OUYR LORD JEWSUS OPROTECTS AND SAAAVES US AMEN(SO BE IT IN HEBREW)
HITLER'S MEIN KAMPF AND CHRISTIANITY The string "Christ" appears in Mein Kampf 46 times. Seventeen of the mentions are in relation to Karl Lueger's Christian-Socialist Party, something which Hitler both admires for their Pan-German policy and criticizes harshly in regards to their position on the JQ: >The anti-Semitism of the Christian-Socialists was based on religious instead of racial principles. The reason for this mistake gave rise to the second error also. >It was obvious, however, that this kind of anti-Semitism did not upset the jews very much, simply because it had a purely religious foundation. If the worst came to the worst a few drops of baptismal water would settle the matter, hereupon the jew could still carry on his business safely and at the same time retain his jewish nationality. >It was anti-Semitic only in outward appearance. And this was worse than if it had made no pretences at all to anti-Semitism; for the pretence gave rise to a false sense of security among people who believed that the enemy had been taken by the ears; but, as a matter of fact, the people themselves were being led by the nose. This is a devastating criticism of Christianity when one thinks about it. The nature of the jew is affirmed as biological, and a racial approach is advocated for. So much for 17 of the 46 appearances. There is a single mention of Christendom (not counting the one in the preface), which reads as follows: >Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts' content, while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve. Not much to draw from this statement. Germany was over 90% Christian, Mein Kampf was intended for the masses, and D&C in Germany between two types of Christkikes was bad from a nationalistic point of view for obvious reasons. The term Christianity appears in Mein Kampf six times in this work spanning hundreds of pages, again excluding a single mention in the author's preface. Here are two of the mentions in one paragraph: >If religious life in pre-war Germany had a disagreeable savour for the mouths of many people this was because Christianity had been lowered to base uses by political parties that called themselves Christian and because of the shameful way in which they tried to identify the Catholic Faith with a political party. A statement on jews and Christianity: >His life is of this world only and his mentality is as foreign to the true spirit of Christianity as his character was foreign to the great Founder of this new creed two thousand years ago. And the Founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His estimation of the jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation. It's important to remember that the whipping of the jews in the temple was explicitly in service of a jewish prophecy. Also, in reference to Table Talk it's clear that Hitler believed that Jesus was an Aryan who fought against jewish materialism, he never refers to him as any sort of "messiah" (Hebrew word, there) or God. 1/3
>The greatness of Christianity did not arise from attempts to make compromises with those philosophical opinions of the ancient world which had some resemblance to its own doctrine, but in the unrelenting and fanatical proclamation and defence of its own teaching. This is said in relation to the power of ideas that energize a movement. Christcucks will latch onto the word "greatness", but in the preceding paragraph it is said: >The greatness of every powerful organization which embodies a creative idea lies in the spirit of religious devotion and intolerance with which it stands out against all others, because it has an ardent faith in its own right. Then later: >Christianity was not content with erecting an altar of its own. It had first to destroy the pagan altars. It was only in virtue of this passionate intolerance that an apodictic faith could grow up. And intolerance is an indispensable condition for the growth of such a faith Later: >Each one of us to-day may regret the fact that the advent of Christianity was the first occasion on which spiritual terror was introduced into the much freer ancient world, but the fact cannot be denied that ever since then the world is pervaded and dominated by this kind of coercion and that violence is broken only by violence and terror by terror The much freer ancient world? Every other mention of "Christian" is used in the context of "Christian denominations", matter of fact statements about how "the progress made by the missions in spreading the Christian Faith abroad was only quite modest in comparison with the spread of Mohammedanism.", referring to "Pre-Christian Germans", Christians converting niggers, etc.
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Finally, Hitler's conception of God is incompatible with Christcuckery. His "religion" was based on the eternal Laws of Nature and the Darwinian struggle for existence, not your gay shit about "sin", "repentance" and "salvation". All throughout Mein Kampf (which you've never read lol), Hitler routinely, again and again 'personifies Nature, speaks of Nature's Laws, the Will of Nature, the intention of Nature, etc. Likewise he rarely refers to God, but rather to something he refers to as Providence. He also uses several times through very many very un-Christian ways of speaking such as these: > The Goddess of Fate clutched me in her hands and often threatened to smash me; but the will grew stronger as the obstacles increased, and finally the will triumphed. >They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people >who has the right to shout that triumphant word if he has not won the right to it there where there is no play-acting and where the hand of the Goddess of Destiny puts the truth and sincerity of nations and men through her inexorable test? >I also felt that the Goddess of Vengeance was now getting ready to redress the treason of the 9th of November, 1918. The hall was emptied. The movement was on the march > the gentle goddess of Peace can only walk in company with the god of War, and that every great act of peace must be protected and assisted by force. 3/3 THERE IS A FAR STRONGER CASE TO ARGUE FOR HITLER BEING AN AVATAR THAN THERE IS FOR HIM TO BE A CHRISTKIKE
>>1668 >I figured Whites would be doing the same thing to the other races if weren't the kikes. Are you serious or just stupid? We were benevolent. We(Actually retard anglos) even took the fucking kikes in to our greatest misfortune because of their cromwellian Christcuck religious convictions literally establishing them in currency, loans, banking because of bizzare desert religion retard-ism. The funny thing is even when we had ultimate power over the lower races we never did the jew shit, we didn't parasitically blend in as them to fuck their people over, we came to their shitholes and literally always gave something back, eventually giving them entire countries back with built railroads, hospitals roads and schools for the fucking idiots just for a few decades if not a century of labour and spices. Shadowskins were given a deal of a fucking lifetime and jews "blame us" for giving them literally every modern accommodation including medicine and literally creating their education systems which is almost unfathomable for people to understand that they can't live without today nonetheless they are so retarded they will believe anything even though we charitably made these fucking shitskins, to our great dismay again. White people never lead a relentless parasitic usurer existance as a minority always scheming to blend in like jews who have created nothing, jews unlike White people only exist by benefiting from others work where the survival strategy is literal parasitism which explains their behaviors and why they have been expelled from Europe 300 times over, hated globally, but are still to this day they say they are convinced and tell us that "it's never their fault" meanwhile evil kike goblin scum like Joel bernstein and Noel ignatiev get away with soliciting White murder openly and then wonder why anti-semitism exist. Obviously sharing anything we made with the lower races was evidently an ecological and human disaster and in retrospect something that should have never happened, but we did it anyway, we even shared with the jews who literally want to destroy us for being retarded and sharing anything. The shadowskin and niggers would never ever do such a thing, ever, if it somehow in an alternate universe were them who were capable of creating anything good they'd literally use their creation as leverage to torture rape and murder and to spread their savage ways like that one time the ottoman subhumans managed to breach into kosovo and would originally ram giant sharpened logs to impale people alive on through the anus, but when Vlad Tepes finally came around to gaving them the same treatment they did to Europeans for decades before Vlad the darkskins immidiately cowered in fear like animals who did not expect their own animalistic subhuman behaviors given back to them. In the end the savages should have been responsibly left alone, a comparison would be alien contact with a higher civilization meeting the lower one not engaging because it will taint their culture. Who made it so it wasn't? Normal people didn't give a fuck about them and thought they were animalistic and so curious, yet not completely treating them horrible see: (Haiti Revolution 1791 nigs being freed by libshit christcucks and as thanks immidiately kill Whites who free them lol) Such retarded leftists and Christcuck marxists(the original globalists) who started handing out gibs and free shit, hellbent on defying natural law and not letting nature take its course infected with the mind-virus saw them literally as "equals" and did all they could to taint their culture to "elevate" them creating a culture of trying to dress pigs who to this fucking day overpopulate, pollute the earth dumping plastic everywhere, possess incredibly and dangerous technology like nuclear weapons yet still something absurd like 80% of them shit in the street. Yet globalists demand we treat them with silk gloves and baby them, treat them as "equals" although their societal behaviors are unacceptable in our countries. In other words they are afforded to live beyond their evolution when all these things they have is technology that was literally given to them never should have gotten their filthy hands on in the first place being incredibly dangerous. Think about how insane it is. If we can get out of this to learn from we know that this must never happen again and the retards attempting this shit must die.
>>1644 >Again just plain false, we have multiple romans talking shit on the jews prior to the Christkike takeover(Julian during this take over) and subsequent collapse of Rome and then the next 1600 years of the religion being the primary vehicle of the destruction of the Aryan/Nordic race. Not even just Aryans/Nordics, but if you look at Asian countries like Korea - which post 1945 used the same Judeo-Christian model as the US for it's nation - and look at how it primed them for the exact same levels of equality-cult acceptance. Now you have the feminists taking control, the men weakened and ostracized, the birth rates in the toilet setting the stage for mass immigration, and the whole "love thy neightbor" shit which has created a fetishism for foriegn shit. This is real world confirmation that Christianity is a poison to anything it touches, and it destroys any racial group who embraces it's cucked teachings. It is the precursor to Communist subversion.
>>1685 >Not even just Aryans/Nordics, True but those peoples are my enemy as well what hurts them is good for me.
>>1690 >True but those peoples are my enemy as well what hurts them is good for me. I fail to see how gooks are an enemy, if anything they would be a one of the few good allies against the kike along with the nips.
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>>1695 Gooks and Nips hate each other, that alliance wouldn't work out very well, unfortunately, or at least I'd imagine. Both South and North Korea would probably rather team up than see Japan embrace the emperor ideology and militarism again, sadly. Nips are basically the only good Asian ally I can think of. South Korea also has a major problem with judeophilia, Christianity and degeneracy. I don't know if I'd call them my "enemy" though. Pretty neutral towards them. I don't really like them though.
>>1695 There are gooks here in the US invading just like all the others, how are they not an enemy?
>>1701 It seems like he was talking in general sense, not in regards to the invaders present in our countries.
>>1701 I don't condone those that come and cause trouble, I was merely pointing out that generally they are respectful of the nation and culture they are in, but that doesn't mean they should be staying here. They are in the same boat as us in terms of what the jew is doing to their culture, and nation. They have been pushing the globalisation shit on them for a while, and even forcing kids to learn English first over their own language. Korea has always been in a rough spot due to geopgraphy, if it wasn't the chinks fucking with them, it was the Japs, and now Americans or jews. At the end of the day having other groups you can work with to achive your goals is valuble, and the fact of the matter is that we just don't have the numbers to fight alone successfully. Korea is one of the few intelligent, non-White countries that is facing the same problems we are and could be sympathetic in the future. >>1702 Yes. >>1697 I think you are right about the Japs due to the history, but I would take that "judeophilia" shit with a grain of salt. The government of Korea has been operating the same way the Western counterparts have for awhile, taking a shit on their own people and trampling on their traditions; I doubt a majority of Koreans buy that shit as much as they'd like you to believe.
>>1705 con't. Think of it from the opposite perspective. If the U.S. media and their nigger worship is viewed by our Korean counterparts, would they not assume the same thing? It's just propaganda to misdirect from whats really happening, and what people really think.
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>>1702 Even in a general sense, they're an enemy. At a base level, they are our enemy, they are not our kin, they are not our people. They use their existence, no matter how "respectful" they are of our culture and our false nation-state, they aid our enemies and themselves at cost to us, therefore they are a threat to the existence and future existence of my people, so they are my enemy, now and forever. >>1705 >I don't condone those that come and cause trouble, I was merely pointing out that generally they are respectful of the nation and culture they are in, but that doesn't mean they should be staying here. I don't condone any of them and they are not "respectful" of anything they have their own nation, yet they came here to a place that is by blood rights, and the slaughter of it's previous inhabitants by my ancestors, is mine, and took from me and my kin, how is that respect? how is that any grounds for an alliance? they came FROM their place to mine and stole from me, willfully with no regard for what is ours or the existence of my people, so I will return the favor and disregard their existence and future existence. >They are in the same boat as us in terms of what the jew is doing to their culture, and nation. So what? the weaker they are the easier it will be to conquer and exterminate them as they aid the jew and our White traitors in doing now. >They have been pushing the globalisation shit on them for a while, and even forcing kids to learn English first over their own language. Again, so? >Korea has always been in a rough spot due to geopgraphy, if it wasn't the chinks fucking with them, it was the Japs, and now Americans or jews. So? >At the end of the day having other groups you can work with to achive your goals is valuble, and the fact of the matter is that we just don't have the numbers to fight alone successfully. We have no grounds to build an alliance with them this shit has been trie34d before and always fails, we stand alone and we will rise or fall alone. >Korea is one of the few intelligent, non-White countries that is facing the same problems we are and could be sympathetic in the future. They are not sympathetic now and never were in the past, how could they be in the future?
>>1709 They literally never change. >>1705 At the very least it's clear that they are being subjected to degeneracy through popular cultural, entertainment and the like in a similar way to us. See kpop, etc. South Korea is of course a ZOG as well, quite literally occupied by the jewSA. Now whether Koreans are inherently kike-ish or anything, I don't know. >>1705
>>1710 >They are not sympathetic now and never were in the past, how could they be in the future? They were sympathetic in the past when Western nations sacriiced to help them escape from Communism during the Korean war. Many of the older generation are still thankful for that.
>>1710 >We have no grounds to build an alliance with them this shit has been trie34d before and always fails, we stand alone and we will rise or fall alone Then we have a fundamental disagreement. It's a few narrow view of our problem. Obviously the jew knows he cannot win without coersion of other groups, even Hitler knew that fighting alone was foolish and reckless. If we don't do the same we will fall alone and the jew will fullfill his propecy unhindered. This is a global war, and the jew is working overtime to turn everyone against US with his propaganda. We must do the same, and ally with like-minded groups to turn the tide. Look at how thier nigger worship has turned Latinos against them, another group that we might be able to cooperate with. Think about the big picture, anon.
>>1715 >They were sympathetic in the past when Western nations sacrificed to help them escape from Communism during the Korean war. Many of the older generation are still thankful for that. And who paid the greatest cost for their liberty? US or them? how much did we waste saving less than half of them from communism? many lives and a fuckton of resources and things that should have been used to benefit our own? especially when the commie side seems to be doing better than expected? They are not sympathetic, and cannot bem or they would send out an order for all of their racial brethren invading our countries to return home and keep them there, in fact, if they were actually sympathetic they would never have allowed them to leave and dilute our blood and steal from our people in the first place. >Then we have a fundamental disagreement. It's a few narrow view of our problem. No it's an accurate view of our problem, I want the invaders dead for their crimes against my people, allying with their homes will not help us, their homes will refuse to take the ones who invaded when idiots like you try to deport them, what then now that you've wasted months and huge portions of resources BETTER USED FOR OUR PEOPLE keeping these shitskins alive, will you kill them or enslave them? or try to force them to go home wasting more resources building boats or planes on which to send them? >Obviously the jew knows he cannot win without coersion of other groups,even Hitler knew that fighting alone was foolish and reckless. Did he win the war? did those allies who were racial enemies, fight to the death like the germans themselves did or did they abandon the fight as soon as they could? and defect to the other side? > If we don't do the same we will fall alone and the jew will fullfill his propecy unhindered. This is global war, of all our enemies from the jew to the gook coming to kill our people and you want to ally with them as they stab us repeatedly, are you just fucking stupid?! >This is a global war, and the jew is working overtime to turn everyone against US with his propaganda. They didn't need to do that at all, the propaganda is to make sure we feel guilty, the others all hate us at a visceral level regardless of what the jew does or does not do, because we are their enemy. >We must do the same, and ally with like-minded groups to turn the tide. Here you go again with the ally with the niggers rhetoric look at how that worked for Rockwell, it didn't >Look at how thier nigger worship has turned Latinos against them, another group that we might be able to cooperate with. Think about the big picture, anon. I have thought about the big picture you ignorant fool, Latinos(many of whom have Marrano heritage) hate us more than the nigger, and show it by allowing and pushing their own to come here and steal resources from us, jobs from our people and to distribute drugs across the entirety of the US through the extremely extensive gang networks they have set up, but yes we can totally ally with these fucking feathernigger abominations that are barely better than niggers.
>>1718 >And who paid the greatest cost for their liberty? US or them? how much did we waste saving less than half of them from communism? many lives and a fuckton of resources and things that should have been used to benefit our own? especially when the commie side seems to be doing better than expected? They are not sympathetic, and cannot bem or they would send out an order for all of their racial brethren invading our countries to return home and keep them there, in fact, if they were actually sympathetic they would never have allowed them to leave and dilute our blood and steal from our people in the first place. To be honest they paid the greatest price for their liberty, with us behind them if you look at the numbers. Blame the US government for not pushing the chinks back when MacArthur wanted to, the same retards who pulled out of Vietnam after they wasted hundreds of thousands of lives. The commie side is only doing better because our side has been infected with jewry and their dogma. Ironically, the commie side became less pozzed over time due to limited contact with the outside world. I would wager most of them went to the US to escape the constant state of war they are living under as a result of the unfinished war. I don't see how Koreans have stolen anything from us tbh. Maybe some have mixed with us, but that is probably the worst. >I want the invaders dead for their crimes against my people I share your sentiments when it comes to niggers, chinks etc. But I don't see them all through the same lens, especially when we could use all the help we could get. >Did he win the war? did those allies who were racial enemies, fight to the death like the germans themselves did or did they abandon the fight as soon as they could? and defect to the other side? I would argue they probably tried their best until they deemed the conflict unwinnable, too bad they didn't have the forsight to know they wouldn't have freedom anyway. >This is global war, of all our enemies from the jew to the gook coming to kill our people and you want to ally with them as they stab us repeatedly, are you just fucking stupid?! What does the gook have to gain from killing us? They are the next to be destroyed. Asians are the next group to be enriched with niggers and multiculturalism as the jew has said. Why do you think they are doing what they are doing to Japan, Korea, and Taiwan? >They didn't need to do that at all, the propaganda is to make sure we feel guilty, the others all hate us at a visceral level regardless of what the jew does or does not do, because we are their enemy. Not true entirely, some maybe, but I wouldn't conclude all. How can we be the enemy of those we've had no contact with? Or those who have prospered as a result of our influence? I disagree. The propaganda is to turn them against us. The jew misdirects his crimes onto us, which is why we are targeted; the slave trade, the wars, the stolen money, the sex crimes. To a non-White they cannot tell the difference from one of us and a jew. >Here you go again with the ally with the niggers rhetoric look at how that worked for Rockwell, it didn't Niggers are hopeless, and I'm not advocating bothering with them, but how did it harm Rockwell? It wasn't them that got him killed it was the kikes. It was a smart move on Rockwells part to try and turn niggers against the jew. >I have thought about the big picture you ignorant fool, Latinos(many of whom have Marrano heritage) hate us more than the nigger, and show it by allowing and pushing their own to come here and steal resources from us, jobs from our people and to distribute drugs across the entirety of the US through the extremely extensive gang networks they have set up, but yes we can totally ally with these fucking feathernigger abominations that are barely better than niggers. While that may be true, there are still those with our blood among them who are anti-communist, anti-jew. Those who have lived through that hell and seek nothing but to destroy it. Those people are friends stuck in a mess of shit. All I am saying is that there are people out there in the unlikeliest of places who are valuble to our struggle against the kike.
>>1724 Personally I think talk of 'alliances' is pretty much worthless unless we literally controlled a government or movement relevant enough to be in contact with foreign governments. Non-White governments don't give a shit about what lemmings think, and they would willingly cooperate if it was in their interests. Lemmings on the other hand, especially invaders, are too brainwashed to be of much use even trying to get their 'help'. That effort would be better used on other Whites, anyway.
>>1724 >To be honest they paid the greatest price for their liberty, with us behind them if you look at the numbers. They paid the greatest number of lives in the war, sure, but we paid greater in nearly every other way. >The commie side is only doing better because our side has been infected with jewry and their dogma. What do you think communism is? they're doing better because they stayed to themselves and yet North Koreans are caught infiltrating and immigrating here plenty and somehow you think that doesn't make them enemies? >I share your sentiments when it comes to niggers, chinks etc. But I don't see them all through the same lens, especially when we could use all the help we could get. We could use it sure, we will not get it, it will not occur, and if you honestly believe we can get this, you're a fool of the highest order. >I would argue they probably tried their best until they deemed the conflict unwinnable, too bad they didn't have the forsight to know they wouldn't have freedom anyway. So you would argue that they tried their best even though they unlike Germany were not raped and burned and pillaged and genocided by both the East and West after the war? I think even you know that's not the case. >What does the gook have to gain from killing us? A world with one less threat to their existence, and all the resources, land, and women they can steal from us, simple easy motivations that they will always have. >They are the next to be destroyed. Asians are the next group to be enriched with niggers and multiculturalism as the jew has said. Why do you think they are doing what they are doing to Japan, Korea, and Taiwan? The jew targets everyone does not change the fact that just as the jew is our enemy, so is the gook, and the jap who helps the jew kill us, for what? a little extra money, and safety from the terror of the Aryan man. >Not true entirely, some maybe, but I wouldn't conclude all. No, all, lemmings never count and they follow their leaders. >How can we be the enemy of those we've had no contact with? They occupy the same place in this world wee do Bipedal, Second Order Tool-Using Hairless Apes, they are an enemy simply by existing, on land that we can use with resources on and under it that we can also use better and less destructively than they can. >To a non-White they cannot tell the difference from one of us and a jew. And they never will. >It wasn't them that got him killed it was the kikes. It was a smart move on Rockwells part to try and turn niggers against the jew. It was a commie who assassinated him, but even so there was a time when he had Malcolm X as an ally, and when called upon X failed him, why is that I wonder? because helping your enemy hurts you and the White man was X's enemy. >While that may be true, there are still those with our blood among them who are anti-communist, anti-jew. No there aren't, there are a few scattered people who see the truth, like Cesar Tort, who I would gladly work with because, no only does he have no desire to breed and further his disgusting line, he, unlike you, sees why all Non-Whites should be exterminated, though he and I may differ on exactly why.
>>1725 They are worthless even then, every compromise or concession we make and we would have to, to have an alliance, weakens our position as once we attain power why would we need to concede anything to any other power?
>>1727 >Cesar Tort Chechar's blog right?Is he a spic or is he like a part White spic?
>>1750 Think he’s part spic. He’s very good on Christianity though
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>>1668 jews strive for the extermination of non-jews becuase they believe that they are superior and their blood commands them to. Whites kill people who have wronged them, and they conquer for cheap labour and profits (colonial empires), pure hatred is rare. >>1671 >winning a court case Q:Does declaring a legal victory harm them in any way? >any document Any other document did not get passed through allied hands multiple times. >Contradictory with what? Orchestrating Kristallnacht but still being let in the party and lying to hitler for his own benefit. This is an indication that some parts of it were likely edited by Ivan Ivanov Ivanovich, junior editor at Pravda, in order to make Goebbels look bad. >Which parts? The ones quoted the most, the most critical and at the same time the most uncharacteristic of Hitler >obvious that the editors lightened the language Proof? >>1673 >hitler said that anti semitism should be based on ethnic grounds rather than religious ones >clearly this meant hitler hated christianity >he never refers to him as any sort of "messiah" Because he never renounced his faith and it was understood what he meant? >>1675 >Hitler's conception of God is incompatible with Christcuckery. No, the christian worldview is not at odds with the natural one
>>1764 >Because he never renounced his faith and it was understood what he meant? He spent a massive deal of time bashing Christianity and called it from the beginning a form of proto-Bolshevism, you are desperate if you think that Hitler could be in anyway Christian or 'faith' in Jesus in any way. He's the exact same as Savitri Devi. He didn't hate Jesus as a man, but didn't view him as who Christians say that he was, and that's fair enough. > the christian worldview is not at odds with the natural one Kek
Relevant video from a christcuck about Hitler and the church. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzNXdsxZo3k
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>muh "peaceful" religion from the desert and vatican child molesters is totally organic >jews write book for jews that is super strict but somehow also write book for White people with different weak rules where everyone is "equal" except jews being specifically written down as "holy" >"Nooo it is coincidence" (execute typical tricks) >not another version of the abrahamokike triology >this is not subversion >I'm so insecure I must constantly sperg about what those pagans and whoever else say about it Every christcuck
>>1822 The most saddening part of all of this is that they literally refuse to admit that they have been jew'd since birth with Christianity, even in spite all of the points in this thread and the stuff you posted here. I have redpilled a guy I know on the JQ, to the extent where he knows that the jews control almost every major facet of our society, but he absolutely refuses to believe that Christianity is a jewish plot, no matter the evidence given to him. I'm not even trying to turn him to atheism. God existing is far more likely that what (((scientists))) tell us about the universe's origin, but what I want Christians to understand is that the creator of the universe is most surely not a Semitic storm god.
>>1823 Christians' primary community is generally other Christians. It's a stupid belief to cling to, but it's also hard to give up such a significant portion of their life. I used to be a Baháʼí and got over it, but I genuinely miss those people to this day and it's not like I can find a local pagan chapter to replace them with. I have run into the same difficulty as you and I'm guessing that's why. Although; there should be no obligation to defend Christianity in an anonymous forum, but maybe that just reinforces their convictions.
>>1823 They simply require ego death, and then a period of rest to rebuild themselves. Most are simply lack the will or keep themselves too "busy" to do so and will resort to mental gymnastics to escape facing the truth, and will eventually fall apart just like a leftist from the constant cognitive dissonance when faced with contradictions, but not before betraying you for no good reason if you've let him in on anything, after all it's "the right thing to do". You've been warned.
>>1825 *Most simply lack the will
>>1824 >I used to be a Baháʼí and got over it Wew, how pozzed are is the average follower? I have read that they are a UN-affiliated NGO, a Zionist political sect based in Israel, that they want full egalitarianism and refuse to preach to jews even though their headquarters are centered in Israel. It definitely looks like the most pozzed form of Abrahamism yet, and I can only be glad that it is small. >I genuinely miss those people to this day and it's not like I can find a local pagan chapter to replace them with. That's very true, and possibly an underlooked factor here. With religion in general (to ignore the truth value of particular tradition(s) for a moment), a big part of the draw is the community and fellowship, and as you say, it is precisely this that we are lacking right now in real life. There are of course some other issues such as image issues due to New Agers and fake pagan Wicca degenerates, but the lack of community IRL lends to the idea that paganism is nothing but a nebulous and confused worldview with no substance to it. >>1825 Fundamentally normalfags typically do not want to jump down the rabbit hole and see where it goes. I am the type of person with almost limitless time on my hands, and no topics are too extreme or taboo for me to research and form positions on. Having followed this approach for at least four or five years now I have reached radically different conclusions than mainstream society gradually. I assume many of you here are of a similar nature, having come to the same positions, which are of course are positions not quickly-adopted. >not before betraying you for no good reason if you've let him in on anything, after all it's "the right thing to do". You've been warned. If I were involved in bad goy activities I wouldn't tell this type of person, don't worry.
>>1823 Apparently you have absolutely no understanding of faith.
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>>1831 >It definitely looks like the most pozzed form of Abrahamism yet It is. Unity is the core of the religion. Its logo represents what it sees as nine valid world religions (including itself and its direct precursor, basically progressive departures from Islam; hilariously, even they don't recognize Mormonism). The entire history of the faith, even to this day, is essentially rolling over and letting the caliphate fuck its ass. Pacifism is heavily stressed. I used to love how friendly total Baháʼí strangers were to me. There was almost never any awkwardness when we held communal retreats, but the problem is just how candid they are with their beliefs. It is probably the single most egalitarian religion ever conceived. The people are far too kind for their own good.
>>1835 Blind faith is simply retarded, sorry anon. I can't respect one rejecting the truth when faced with overwhelming evidence regarding the nature of the Bible, the links with jews, and the history of early Christianity. It turns into delusion at that point. Only Abrahamics, because they are spiritually dead, put extreme faith on a pedestal. Traditional Aryan religions of all varieties have been reliant on direct, intuitive spiritual insight on the part of the individual (gnosis or jñāna). This trumps all "faith". Faith, within reason, is only best adopted as a means towards a greater end. Funnily, the real Jesus taught precisely this, but the (((Church))) and (((Paulines))) destroyed all of the texts and killed those seeking intuitive and direct knowledge of God (who was not a jew or volcano god) >>1838 >progressive departures from Islam What I find interesting in a more general sense is how each Abrahamic religion has gotten progressively more 'pozzed' with each new iteration. For example, Judaism, an ethnic religion, spawned universalist Christianity and then later universalist and more Judaic Islam. From Islam sprung the most pozzed version, which is of course Baháʼí. I'd hate to see what they'd give birth too. >I used to love how friendly total Baháʼí strangers were to me. There was almost never any awkwardness when we held communal retreats I wonder if this is some sort of thing that came from Islam. I've noticed they seem to be pretty friendly with their fellow Muslims, with a tight sense of community bonds. That's one thing pagans majorly need to cultivate in themselves.
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Does Yahweh have power outside of his desert?
>>1847 > Does Yahweh have power outside of his desert? Do you ever wonder if the Middle East was always a dessert? Or if the kikes made it that way because they destroy everything of value?
>>1848 >>1848 Egypt and Mesopotamia were much greener in the past. Wherever jews go the environments are destroyed and a wasteland is left over when they are done, either that or filth and garbage
>>1850 The whole of Egypt was conveniently stripped bare by several swarms of locusts while the kikes just so happened to be staying over, leading to the desertification of everything but the Nile valley. They left soon after, and the desert literally followed them as they went. Nature literally dies around them, you can't make this shit up.
>>1847 It’s a good question. Emperor Julian’s understanding of Yahweh was that he was a minor local god of the jews, and this is the most reasonable explanation. But I don’t think Yahweh is literally bound to the desert. His power can stretch far beyond that. To call Yahweh *just* a minor deity is a dangerous understatement. Real minor deities and nature spirits are those like nymphs, fairies, river or mountain gods. I think Yahweh is better described as some sort of extremely egotistical and crazed demonic / asuric entity who has entered into a blood pact with the jewish people for world domination. Yahweh alone could be the one who has caused the gods not to show themselves as much anymore. It’s not unattested for the gods to be routed for a time by extremely powerful demons, necessitating an avatar to come and restore the Natural Order – see Bali, Ravana, etc. Ravana in particularly became so powerful due to a boon from Brahmā that he oppressed both the heavenly, hellish and earthly planes. This has all happened before
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>>1847 Yahweh is bound to the perception and existence of jews. It's safe to say that the spiritual Israel differs that of the Levant geographical Israel, and the Israel is just any dwelling that jews have supreme prosperity. Thus America could be an Israel, and thus America is guarded by Yahweh. This could also be interpreted in the Aryan lense as Airyanem Vaejah and Ahuramazda and the difference between the historical abode of the Aryan people and the spiritual and political dwellings that Aryans have expanded to. Thus it's important to recognize Yahweh as strictly an Ethno-deity, whom protects only jews of jew-blood, and that's why Christianity is destined to fail because their deity literally hates them.
>>1858 >Nature literally dies around them, you can't make this shit up. Not in Europe exactly. Even during the medieval era Europe has been less reluctant to become lifeless despite the conversions, although that could be because of the fact that paganism has influenced Christianity heavily with the traditions and custom that were kept. I think a Slav friend once told me that Russian Eastern Orthodoxy was debately more pagan than Catholicism.
>>1867 >their deity literally hates them. Isaiah 40:17 – <Before him all the nations are as nothing; they are regarded by him as worthless and less than nothing. Seems harmless until you realize that ‘nations’ is the translation for הַגּוֹיִ֖ם, “hag·gō·w·yim”. Goyim. A foreign nation, a Gentile.
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What's a Pagan take on stuff like Mount Athos? Despite being descended from the desert religion, the Orthodox church is pretty much the only organization that has been consistently involved in supernatural and spooky shit until current year. Moreover, as >>1871 mentioned, a lot of their inner lore comes directly from the old Pagan priesthoods, which shouldn't be surprising seeing how those priesthoods integrated into the clerical structure and monastic bodies early on. Of all the major religions, it's also the only one directly integrated with and supportive of the races and countries they reside in, where it's always been the main driver of racial cohesion and ethnic separation. Do they still follow the same kikeish Yahweh?
>>1873 There’s likely some supernatural occurences going on for sure at Mount Athos. This is not surprising given the fact that they are living in isolation from (((modernity))) and its traps, which allows them to achieve great spiritual growth, no doubt. With the practice of hesychasm and the experience of a sort of inner “uncreated light” within, we can find many parallels across the world, and talk of things such as the self/atman as “the light in the heart” in the many Upanishads, in the Yoga-sutra we are told to concencrate on ““the supreme, ever-blissful Light within.” Very similar things are described in Buddhism if I recall correctly too. They are engaging in advanced yogic techniques unknown to themselves, and likely do make *some* progress. Theoria or contemplation of God with the goal of direct insight comes directly from Neoplatonism as well, if not further back. They are still mixing up everything with jew-worship at the end of the day, though. When they have mystical experiences they’re likely transcending the demon Yahweh even though they view the experiences through a Christian lens. Perhaps we should look at what the Bhagavad Gita says on this matter: 7.21-23 <“Whoever has the wish to worship whatever god-form faithfully, it is I who truly grant him a faith that is immovable” <“Yoked in this faith, the devotee desires to propitiate that god for answering the prayers which were granted by Me only!” <“Fleeting are the results for those who are weak in understanding. God worshippers go to the gods; My devotees attain Me truly.” How much more lofty and self-assured than Yahweh!
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>>1772 Any talk about the religiousness of Hitler is worthless with people who don't understand the status religion had in the German speaking countries in Europe during his lifetime. Modern Germany was both an original center of the Renaissance(with had a huge boner for Classical Antiquity), but also home to German Romanticism(which had a huge boner for the Medieval Period). It was both a center for the Enlightenment(Secularism) movement, but also had a strong Counter-Enlightenment movement(a Christian Revival in which even the protestant Prussian Kings gave money to restore catholic churches in their kingdom). German customs from Antiquity gave birth to the Divine Right of Kings(the King decides the religion of his Kingdom), but it was also divided between Catholicism(Pro Rome) and Protestantism(Pro Nationalism) thanks to the Reformation started by Martin Luther. Between 1700-1900, a German would be baptized at birth and go to church school on Sunday for his Confirmation. In the week a young German would go to school and later university, in which teachers and professors would praise Classical Antiquity. All while living in a strong secular country, in which the King/Emperor is also the supreme leader of the local church. All in all Germans were similar to the Japanese. They followed religion out of their reverence for tradition and because they recognized the importance of the religious rituals for the cohesion of society, but in their professional and private life it didn't play a high role that dominated their thinking because of their good education. Meanwhile on the political level religion was a question of power and bowed to the concept of Realpolitik. Hitler tried to unify all the German speaking territories in Europe into one single nation. To do that he had to show both respect to tradition(be it christian or pagan), while he also had to replace and destroy it where it was in the way of unity.
>>1871 >Not in Europe exactly. Even during the medieval era Europe has been less reluctant to become lifeless despite the conversions,... Several parts of Europe did suffer from desertification from the late medieval period to the late modern period. Those places were only re cultivated in the 19th century with the help of steam plows.
>>1900 Yeah, but it's not as bad as it was and is within the Middle East, which was said to be filled with vegetation and pretty green before Judaism and semitic cults took over. Although can you give me a couple examples of desertification before the industrial era?
>>1907 >Although can you give me a couple examples of desertification before the industrial era? Biggest one I know was the Lüneburger Heide in North Germany, which covered almost the entire principality of Lüneburg. They cut all the trees down, so the salt producers could boil saltwater. Back then salt was really expensive. Farming before the introduction of the three-field system then gave the ground the rest and it couldn't support the most common crops anymore. When nothing would grow anymore, the farmers would change to become goat and sheep herders, which basically prevented nature from regenerating because the goats and sheep would eat all the plant saplings that could do that. The result is a landscape like in the painting I have posted. When salt became a common good, the people in Lüneburg turned into the poorhouse of Germany and that only changed when the potato was introduced and steam plows were able to dig up deeper ground. In English these type of landscape are called Heathland and wherever you find them, they are usually the result of deforestation by humans.
>>1956 >Biggest one I know was the Lüneburger Heide in North Germany, which covered almost the entire principality of Lüneburg. They cut all the trees down, so the salt producers could boil saltwater. I was more-so expecting there to be some form of real life symbolism that Abrahamicism wherever it infects makes life turn lifeless. What you're talking about is more-so the issue wrong with agriculture and civilization as a whole.
>>1907 The Middle East has a different climate than Europe. I don't think Europe could ever be turned into a literal desert in the way the Middle East today is. It was greener there in the past but there were still deserts as well. Just look in the Bible, the jews were still shown as wandering around the desert in Exodus. If anything, the real cancer the jews spread is anything artificial and connected with (((civilization)))
Got caught up in a minor argument with a Christian online, and he kept saying "god is real bro" even though I never said I was an atheist or didn't believe in god...how can you even argue with these people?
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>>2018 >how can you even argue with these people? You can't. They are insane due to the Abrahamic software that has been installed in their heads. Most of them operate off a very simplistic way of thinking too - either Christianity versus atheism, or Christianity versus Satanism depending on the topic. If one makes progress with a Christcuck, he'll inevitably sink back into feels and dismiss the point. I've seen this IRL a lot. The guy you argued with probably thinks 'if God exists, it's necessarily the God of the Bible', therefore repeating "god is real bro" is just saying that Christianity is true, because reasons. What were you arguing about?
>>2019 I was trying to explain that Christianity is not White or European as a rule and is in fact anti-White.
>>2020 Unfortunately this can be quite the hard redpill to swallow when they’re on the inside, I would imagine.
Has Christianity just been one giant cuck cult for control and humiliation? Be honest with me as well and provide direct evidence for my question.
Does the constant shitting on Babylon by abrahamites have any merit? Like, is there any legit archaeological evidence that Babylon was the degenerate late-stage clusterfuck the Torah says it was?
>>2025 >Has Christianity just been one giant cuck cult for control and humiliation? Be honest with me as well and provide direct evidence for my question. Yes, it has been. Christianity is a form of malware that the jews introduced into the Europe psyche, and we have been dealing with the negative side-effects for two millennia now. We just have to look at what Jesus himself preached to see what he wanted for people— >division and chaos (Matthew 10:34-36) >non-resistance to evil (Matthew 5:39) >cucking to the state (Matthew 22:17-21) >not planning for future events (Matthew 6:25-34) There are more that could be listed, but I think you get the basic point. If a society followed these guidelines it would go extinct, period. Being a doormat does not save the White race. Christcucks will cope and say that Christianity used to be “based” in the past, but this was because it was not true to itself, and those at the very top knew that this was an unworkable system. When Christianity got close to the seat of power it very rapidly morphed from being a seemingly meek sect of Judaism, into a tyrannical anti-European organization which would slaughter and persecute Europeans for centuries in the name of a jewish war god. Very quickly “resist not evil” became Constantine’s “in hoc signo vinces” (In this sign you shall conquer). Following this the Semiticization of the European mind progressed slowly and native pagan traditions that we had been practicing for millennia beforehand were gradually stamped out, our temples destroyed or converted into churches and ancient works burned, and statues smashed, and sacred groves chopped down. Christianity then gradually spread like a cancer from the Mediterranean and was astroturfed to other European kings, often through very convenient marital alliances or being converted by the wife of a king. Clovis I’s wife was a Christian woman Clotilde, Vladimir the Great of Kievan Rus converted to marry Anna, Æthelberht of Kent’s wife was Christian and he also converted by her. King Mirian III of George was converted by his Christian wife Nana. There are likely many, many more examples. Christianity was spread through women to kings, and was always thought of as a religion for women by pagans for this reason. In many of these cases, as soon as the king had become infected with the Semitic malware, he set about mass-converting everyone who lived under his reign. Vladimir the Great did just this, as is related in the Primary Chronicle: <Thereafter Vladimir sent heralds throughout the whole city to proclaim that if any inhabitants, rich or poor, did not betake himself to the river, he would risk the Prince's displeasure. https://archive.org/details/the-russian-primary-chronicle What we see here is top-down social engineering by elites working for a universalist, Semitic ideology and forcing it onto our people, just as the governments of today do when forcing trannies, homos and mudmen down our throats—the gods of (((modernity))) With just the conversion of key elites massive amounts of people could be converted to this Semitic religion and made to destroy their temples, sacred places and heritage.
>>2027 We do have a statement in Herodotus’ Histories which he talks about and seems to find degenerate: >The foulest Babylonian custom is that which compels every woman of the land to sit in the temple of Aphrodite and have intercourse with some stranger at least once in her life. Many women who are rich and proud and disdain to mingle with the rest, drive to the temple in covered carriages drawn by teams, and stand there with a great retinue of attendants. But most sit down in the sacred plot of Aphrodite, with crowns of cord on their heads; there is a great multitude of women coming and going; passages marked by line run every way through the crowd, by which the men pass and make their choice. Once a woman has taken her place there, she does not go away to her home before some stranger has cast money into her lap, and had intercourse with her outside the temple; but while he casts the money, he must say, "I invite you in the name of Mylitta". It does not matter what sum the money is; the woman will never refuse, for that would be a sin, the money being by this act made sacred. So she follows the first man who casts it and rejects no one. After their intercourse, having discharged her sacred duty to the goddess, she goes away to her home; and thereafter there is no bribe however great that will get her. So then the women that are fair and tall are soon free to depart, but the uncomely have long to wait because they cannot fulfil the law; for some of them remain for three years, or four. There is a custom like this in some parts of Cyprus. https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+1.199 This said, having read Herodotus’ work in the past, he’s fairly neutral about Babylon from what I remember except for in this passage. He spends most of the time describing its gates, the ziggurat, its huge walls and the like. If they were exceptionally degenerate he would have told us all about it, since Herodotus’ loves to report on rumors and crazy stuff of that nature. So my tentative verdict is grains of truth with copious amounts of jewish seething
What are the chances this mRNA vaccine they are pushing is actually the "FunVax" shit the pentagon was toying with in 2005 to "vaccine" people from the VMAT-2 gene? (The one responsible for "religious extremism"). Seems awfully convienient...
>>2019 >>how can you even argue with these people? You can't. They are insane due to the Abrahamic software that has been installed in their heads. Most of them operate off a very simplistic way of thinking too - either Christianity versus atheism, or Christianity versus Satanism depending on the topic. If one makes progress with a Christcuck, he'll inevitably sink back into feels and dismiss the point. I've seen this IRL a lot. The guy you argued with probably thinks 'if God exists, it's necessarily the God of the Bible', therefore repeating "god is real bro" is just saying that Christianity is true, because reasons. What were you arguing about? The closer you look at Christians and the proceed to cross examine their behaviour with brainwashed Marxists, the similarities between their behaviour becomes eerily uncanny. Emotions take total control and violence errupts towards non-believers.
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>>2044 I've heard the same theory. It's certainly plausible. There was of course that one article from one of the AstroZeneca volunteers who said that "they killed God, I can't feel him anymore" after getting the vaccine. It's really impossible to know what the fuck this experimental jewish-made gene therapy will do to a person. Then again, I also have doubts about these claims. I think it's more the case of the kikes basically lobomotizing a person rather than turning off some gene that makes them stop believing in God. That sounds slightly reductionistic to me, but what do I know.
>>2019 Christianity was was subsumed by globohomo as the main religion generations ago. If you want to use the software analogy, I think its disingenuous to consider Christianity as the main program. In general, I view religion mostly as a reflection of culture, not a driver of it.
>>2540 Christianity definitely isn't the main issue nowadays at all. Like you said, leftism / globohomo overtook it in the late 19th century and early 20th century. It had become somewhat of a hindrance for the jews, therefore wherever they could they sought to eradicate it, like in the USSR. > I view religion mostly as a reflection of culture, not a driver of it. It can absolutely drive culture. Just look at the culture changes that Christianity has brought to Europe over time.
>>2550 Anything in particular you have in mind? I view the culture change more as a result of a collapsing Roman empire and the subsequent de and re-urbanization
>>2554 What you mention about the collapse of the Roman Empire's obviously a factor in some changes, but the most obvious thing here is the complete change in religion. Religion and culture mutually interact and shape one another, especially in cases of where we are talking about a new religion coming in and being imposed on a culture. With the pre-Abrahamic traditions of our ancestors there was a much tighter symbiosis between religion, culture and everyday life, but this was ruptured with Christianity, which then began to reshape aspects of native European cultures, and more slowly, the way that Europeans thought and acted.
>>2557 I'm not denying that religion creates a feedback loop to reinforce culture, but again I find it downstream of culture, which is downstream of genetics. People will act differently if they are in a dense city, or a roving tribe, or in times of war and peace. How the religion manifests or shifts is a reflection of this state of being, as opposed to the state being a reflection of the religion. I'll ask again if you have any particular examples of religion driving culture. I'm struggling to make logical connections for your argument that I find satisfying.
>>2639 How is the coming of Christianity to pagan Europe not an example of religion driving changes in culture? I definitely wouldn't say that religion is the only or even the driving force (i.e. most of the time it is downstream of culture), but it certainly can drive it in greater or lesser ways depending on circumstances. A better example might be the coming of Islam to Arabia. Their culture majorly changed due to this religion, particularly in the doing away of the practice of making statues of gods, practices like divination, frequent female infanticide, certain marriage practices like sororal polygyny, etc.
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I've been reading pic related related, and it is truly amazing what goes on in the Christcuck's mind. First there is reference to God as the ultimate brute fact - fair enough - as well as a person (being with intentions, thoughts, etc) that is utterly simply, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. But then in the author's desire to make moral truly 'objective' he goes and claims that God is not the author of all morality, and that it would be literally impossible for God to command something else than what is defined as "good". It seems to me that he is setting something higher than the "ultimate brute fact". God is best seen as the ultimate expression of "might is right" Also amusing is the chapter on evil, where he discusses "natural evils" like suffering brought about by nature, and how horrible this. I've noticed Christians constantly cry about Nature and how horrible it is. Nietzsche is absolutely right here in saying that they just hate and despise life. If something like God exists, and he is the author of the Laws of Nature, what reproach do I have? They are already perfect

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