>ethics fit for weaklings. The strong, beautiful, superior, etc are all denigrated before the jewish imposter god. So basically everyone is forced to be all strong and mighty and people are born different? That isn't to say that Whites can't be together under one identity. But there's weaklings in any society. They're just born that way.

>>1406 > So basically everyone is forced to be all strong and mighty and people are born different? Both a strawman and a reductio ad absurdum in a sentence as short as this one. This anon is a special kind of schizo.

>>1408 Triggered Christcuck with no arguments. Don't bother to come back to reply, you have to worship your jew savior nailed to a cross tomorrow while your pope sells you to globohomo.

>>1418 Rather you were triggered by my mere mention of Christianity yesterday so you created this thread :^)

Look at this, there is no way you can honestly tell me Christianity isn't literally a marxist death cult.

>2019 christcucks not even once also christcucks: >OMG dood why dont u like my proto marxist death cult of 66 books written by jews from the desert its been soobverted and nothing else and lol Ur D&C 4 pointing this out!!!! CHRISTCUCKS ARE FUCKING RETARDS

>>1438 Codex Theodosianus is subversion too huh? >>1435 Nope. It was the Christcuck cult's dirty semitic revenge against all pagans AKA good White people who built the first high-functional civilizations already in 312"AD" and the fall of the Roman empire happened a mere 100 years later. Codex Theodosianus is literally just like communism in 1918, redistribution(stealing) etc. I suggest your stop making excuses for it like it's some harmless baby and stop identifying yourself with the cuck religion named Christianity or take your kike vampire religion elsewhere.

>>1406 >So basically everyone is forced to be all strong and mighty and people are born different? As the other anon said, this is a complete strawman. The Bible is pure slave morality and denigrates the superior, strong, intelligent and beautiful. Yahweh does not love Aryans, he loves oppressed low-IQ mud people. It’s the exact foundation leftism is based on. 1 Corinthians 1:27-29: <But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. <God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are, <so that no one may boast before him.

>>1438 >muh subversion It literally says right in the Bible that God loves weaklings, retards and freaks to shame the strong, intelligent and those who are perfection manifestations of their potential. Jesus Christ himself taught that you should hate your family, that you should love your enemies, not plan for the future and that you should give up your cloak if someone wants to take it from you and that you should just be a complete fucking doormat. Jesus Christ was a hippie jew who hung out with whores, lepers and other vagrants and who is indistinguishable from commie gutter trash that we see today in many cities. The Bible also tells us that there are no men, no women, no jew or Greek, no free or slaves—we’re all (((one))) in Jebus. It’s so fucking embarrassing that people engage in so much cognitive dissonance and can’t realize that they are literally worshiping a jew, and that they practice a form of leftism propagated to destroy the Roman Empire

>>1449 keep seething. i knew you'd make this thread before you did. there's plenty more anti-Christian information you can post. better get back to work. i've seen most of these images before. you got anything new?

>>1453 Christianity is the prototype of Bolshevism. Marxism is secular Christianity.

>>1453 >i knew you'd make this thread before you did. Truly prescient, given the fact that this is literally a remake of a thread from Anon Cafe, newfag: https://archive.fo/D4Nxh You have no rebuttals. Christians have no rebuttals. /fascist/ is a pagan fundamentalist board, and Christians have to deal with it. Their jew-worship is not tolerated here. It is exposed. And if you don’t provide arguments, but only 4cuck-tier posts about “seething” your posts will likely be deleted in the near future and then Christcucks will cry about censorship

>>1458 i am enjoying myself immensely. i do not care to argue, i am bumping your thread and providing room for you to flesh out your arguments. your seriousness and inability to see my joking and playful nature are surprising for someone of such supposed intellectual prowess. go ahead, delete my replies, clean up the thread. Pagan Fundamentalism is the way of the White Man!

>>1459 >i do not care to argue, Leave.

>>1460 >anti-abrahamism general (AAG) enjoy your echo chamber, you haven't deprogrammed shit.

>>1459 >>1461 >deliberately comes in thread he does not like >get owned >"i was only pretending to be retarded" >non mainstream religion discussion = echo chamber We've been over this, you people never provide any argument of value, you refuse to actually reform away from this marxist jew worship by calling yourselves something else, your cultist religion sucks, all the people that are obsessed with it are women and weak idiots who literally never did anything, and don't care about their race or anything except literally waiting to die like good obedient slave goys to get sent to some place dreamt up by some jew who had his followers scheme now for at least a thousand years to categorically murder millions of Europeans who didn't agree with it. Cuckstianity has been failing us so it's not worth caring about or defending whatsoever, if you had some reflection skills you'd understand why nobody likes it. And if you're one of those retards who think for a second that your religion matters more than race you're literally just another retarded faggot. And by default that's what cuckstian hypocrites do because they live in this giant contradiction that tells them a fairy tale meanwhile they refuse to deal with human biology.

>>1459 >Pagan Fundamentalism is the way of the White Man! Yes.

>>1449 >Bible that God loves weaklings, retards and freaks to shame the strong, intelligent and those who are perfection manifestations of their potential. I understand that the strong people wouldn't like that. But in return what is the solution for all this? Extermination of said weaklings?

>>1468 Not anon, but this is a subject I've had a lot of experience with. Weaklings exterminate themselves. Even in the "equality"-based modern world, there's plenty unfit to live, physically, mentally, or emotionally, and they either give into death, or destroy that weakness and reforge themselves. I've dealt with genuine subhumans in the past, think meme-tier obese neet spiritual virgins, who, when exposed to people with a healthy attitude of self-improvement and self-mastery, actually got up and changed their lives. Weakness and strength are in many ways inherent, and they are present in many aspects and areas of a person, but the biggest measure of strength is a person's will, that alone can literally shit on every other "weakness" you may have, physical or otherwise. A system of weakness, like the "equal" modern world that encourages stagnation and mediocrity, literally smothers that personal will out of a person. Being faced with struggle and criticism might not feel good at first, but people rise up against those things, and the satisfaction when you overcome them is real.

>>1420 >implying I am the OP >>1468 No, the solution is to help the weaklings of your own tribe exclusively and prevent more weakling from being created (Spartans did it millennia ago) via application of specific policies, aka actual eugenics, not the twisted globohomo kike version of eugenics called White Genocide. Globohomo suppresses the highest IQ functional race in favor of lower slave races, while we should be doing the opposite. The only relationships we should have with other races are commercial ones, sure as fuck we should not supposed to drain our wealth, or give our inventions and now our lands to these subhumans.

>>1468 No, how does that logically follow? All that is being pointed out is how Abrahamism strives to negate these things, things which are integral parts of life. Why do they seek to destroy everything beautiful, strong, intelligent, masculine and powerful? Abstracting away from their false religion, the obvious answers are envy and resentment, the seeds of slave morality. jewish values (esp. the ones forced onto the goyim) are inversions of natural, healthy modes of being for their opposites, thus leftists (being themselves offspring of Abrahamism) seek to affirm weakness, idiocy, degeneracy and the effeminate. I don’t mean this in a rude way, but you instantly jumping to “ah so you want to exterminate all of the weak” is itself a sign of Abrahamic thought processes. I don’t believe that we can ever have a world that will be of one type of person. Nature is ruled by inequality, differentiation and hierarchy. Within groups there are stronger and weaker elements. Women are weaker than men, and have traits that, if present in men, would be undesirable, but that doesn’t mean women should be exterminated obviously. They are valuable and integral parts of our race, and we recognize this. The Natural Order is characterized both by struggle between individuals and groups just as much as it is characterized by its opposite, i.e. harmony. Abrahamics seek monotony. Their religion itself is a monolith. They believe the good and the bad will be sorted into monotonous eternal existences of eternal suffering or eternal heaven. They believe truth can only be approached in one single way—their way. They are quite literally proto-globohomo. They are haters of life. Meanwhile we who reject this jewish creed can affirm it all, the strong, the weak, the struggle, the harmony, the suffering, the pleasure.

>>1481 >pic shows how women were treated So women should be treated like that or what? Not saying they should be stronk and independent but to be totally nigger tier towards women is just a sorry excuse for being a nigger. Also, you say how we must affirm all around us - the weak, the strong etc. How does one affirm the weak? By coddling him? What do you suggest?

>>1481 >if present in men, would be undesirable There are some feminine men I've noticed in society before. They're not gay but just feminine.

>>1487 >pic shows how women were treated According to who? You realize that that image is a quote from a jew attacking White traditional religious beliefs and their modern revivals, don't you? It was only posted because it was funny. The jew is trying to evoke the image of the caveman. This is a classic tactic that they take. Many jews outright identify civilization with Judaism itself, as can be seen in classic pics like the one I have attached. >>1488 Still undesirable male traits regardless of whether they are fags are not.

>>1491 It looks like my ID changed. I'm still >>1481

>>1491 The guy you replied to does have a point though, just take a look through the /aag/ thread. The confusion is warranted. The first image you posted does more to describe what you mean than what you wrote, so I do understand what you're getting at.

>>1493 I guess in most cases it is natural to assume that the image one posts is directly associated with the content of the post, so you might have a point about the confusion being warranted. It also doesn't help that it's funny because it's not entirely wrong. The more masculine image of some of the pagan religions is definitely probably a selling point for some men, especially because Christianity is viewed as weak and passive in comparison. The jew of course takes it to absurd dimensions in that quote though. >>1487 >How does one affirm the weak? By coddling him? What do you suggest? Hierarchy, etc. By affirming the weak, I mean acknowledging that this exists and realizing that it is an integral part of the world that we live in more than anything else.

>>1463 >owning le christcucks epically!!! Lol. 99% of anti christian arguments are just calling Jesus and Christiaity jewish and sharing some retard fake Christian who promotes anti racism /faggotry /whatever >>1454 Considering this claim was started by lolberts who think that the Bible saying "pay taxes" is communism, I'll take that with a grain of salt >>1439 jews of the Bible are the same of the jews of today Nice indirect shilling of Zionism. Bet you think that American Indians and Indians are the same because they are both called Indians >Religion above race Ironically, most pagans shove away Christians with their "hurr you can't be Fascist and a Christian" nonsense talk. Plus they put their pagan pseudo religion above not splitting the Fascist movement yet again for useless shit. Fascist Christians never feel the need to split the movement again, so why do pagans? Is it ignorance or cunning? The "weak are superior" argument is the one shipped by atheist neoliberals. To be in a state of innocence and the "right path" are two different things. The model path of a Christian is a spiritual one who makes the most productive time of his life on earth, preventing decay from taking hold. >Christianity was created by jews to destroy the Roman Empire Sure, 12 dudes used magic powers to predict that Constantine would adopt Christianity as the religion, which somehow inflated the dinarii , made roman politics a mess and crushed the military by lack of finance-somehow, so they all went forward and risked death.... In order to die for a fairy tale they supposedly made up >No judean, no Greek etc This is why you have a distinction between nation and religion. If Europe turned norse pagan and Odin said that there is no German, there is no Sweden for you are all brave in Valhalla, is that a promotion of equality? >Oh he hung out with whores and tax evaders And what did he do to them? Did he 'tolerate' them? No, he changed them and made them normal and morally healthy. And fuck off with your retarded images we both know how dishonest it is. Pic rel

>>1553 >Considering this claim was started by lolberts who think that the Bible saying "pay taxes" is communism, I'll take that with a grain of salt Christianity dishonesty on full-on display here, especially since in Acts 4:32-35 we see literally communism being practiced: <Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. <33 And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. <34 There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold <35 and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. People long before lolberts pointed out the numerous and undeniable similarities between communists and Christians, among them Nietzsche and Hitler himself. In truth, it has very, very little to do with 'render unto Caesar'. >jews of the Bible are the same of the jews of today >Nice indirect shilling of Zionism. Bet you think that American Indians and Indians are the same because they are both called Indians "We're duh reel jooz, and if you call jews jews, you're a joo!" Shut the fuck up, faggot. Kikes have been pulling this shit for millennia, it's shown all over your Bible and has been extremely well-documented by Alfred Rosenberg in his work 'The Track of the jew Through the Ages'. Stop coping. Jesus a full-blown kike. This doesn't even imply Zionism either unless you believe that people are entitled to a land by mere fact of existing - which they're not. Might is right here. >Ironically, most pagans shove away Christians with their "hurr you can't be Fascist and a Christian" nonsense talk. You can't. Them turning away from Fascism just shows that they prioritize their branch of Judaism above racial survival. >Plus they put their pagan pseudo religion above not splitting the Fascist movement yet again for useless shit. You only think it is "useless" because your ilk are the ones being targeted. Christians have proven themselves to be a subversive, anti-White force time and time again, both historically and today.

>>1553 >Sure, 12 dudes used magic powers to predict that Constantine would adopt Christianity as the religion, which somehow inflated the dinarii , made roman politics a mess and crushed the military by lack of finance-somehow, so they all went forward and risked death.... In order to die for a fairy tale they supposedly made up Jesus was yet another jewish messiah claimaint, and his movement was hijacked by the jew Saul of Tarsus and used for his own purpose. Paul was trained under the rabbi Gamaliel and was a literal Pharisee agent. The entire Christian versus jew conflict is not based on race at all, it's all about whether one accepts some jewish hippie as a messiah or not. jewish infighting. There were multiple jewish sects in the time of Jesus. Sadducees, Pharisees, Essenes, etc. It was subversion and it got to the heights of power and was imposed on Europe from the top-down. The non-White world was eventually colonized, but all of Europe was the first victim of colonial subversion from a jewish religion in Rome. jews were already widespread in the Roman Empire and able to organize. Even in the ancient world the jews of the Roman Empire and beyond were networked tightly together by living along trade routes and the major cities of the Empire. Nearly 40% of Alexandria population – a major ancient city – was jewish in Roman times. Many jews lived in Rome itself. Even before the change over from BC to AD jews ringed the entire Mediterranean Sea. Rosenberg quotes a jewish historian: >after a few centuries", as the jewish historian Herzfeld reports, "and in general without any visible compulsion from outside, the jews were settled in all terrains from Media to Rome, from Pontus to the Persian Gulf, from Macedonia to Ethiopia, and in this enormous range of countries there was no significant commercial city in which jews were not represented". So here we see that jews formed a web over the core of the Aryan gentile world – Rome and beyond – even in antiquity. Already jewish influence was spreading among gentiles, the so called “Yirei Hashem” – the God-fearers seen in Acts. They weren’t full converts though, because they couldn’t adopt jewish law or were unwilling due to things such as circumcision and kosher laws. Paul overthrew i all. He wanted the goyim to convert and with as much ease as possible. He was the so-called “Apostle to the Gentiles” after all! >This is why you have a distinction between nation and religion. If Europe turned norse pagan and Odin said that there is no German, there is no Sweden for you are all brave in Valhalla, is that a promotion of equality? Yes. >And what did he do to them? Did he 'tolerate' them? No, he changed them and made them normal and morally healthy. "Normal and morally healthy" lol

Thank Bhaga that I am not a norse pagan and my beliefs are too esoteric for faggots to latch on to.

>>1580 No attempt to cause discord and division of course. I just find it sad that queers are trying to subvert Nordo-Celtic culture and religion.

>>1581 >>1580 The internet creates little pockets of mental illness and degeneracy all over the place. The fact that the jews are turning the gods into comic book characters and action figures doesn't help matters. On top of this New Age faggots and Wicca-shit really taints the image of paganism in the minds of some. Paganism among Europeans is still developing though. Still being reborrn. We should not pay the subverters and freaks much heed. They should be shunned and exposed though.

>>1395 This thread is pretty kike'd. Plenty of Christians are redpilled on the JQ. Hitler himself claimed to be Catholic several times.

>>1594 >Hitler himself claimed to be Catholic several times In public, to manipulate the simple minded into voting to save their own hides for once. In private, no. Lurk more, simple minded tourist.

>>1595 Pictures didn't post.

>>1594 >This thread is pretty kike'd. Says the jew worshiper. >Plenty of Christians are redpilled on the JQ. Christian anti-Judaism =/= biological anti-semitism. Christians believe that if you baptize a jew he’ll magically become a “brother in Christ”. Same with niggers and spics too of course. Galatians 3:28, etc. >Hitler himself claimed to be Catholic several times. Hitler was most assuredly not a Christian. The proof can be found in Table Talk, and even if one for some retarded reason i.e. cope rejects Table Talk’s legitimacy, the writings of many of Hitler’s closest associates make rather matter-of-fact remarks concerning Hitler’s hostility to Christianity: Christa Schroeder, secretary to Hitler: <“The Church was always a favourite topic. Hitler had no affiliation. He considered the Christian religion to be a hypocritical trap which had outlived its time. His religion was the Law of Nature.” August Kubizek, friend of Hitler: <“He could not imagine for himself a finer existence than that lived by these radiant heroes of early German history. He identified himself with the great men of this vanished epoch. Nothing appeared more worthy of the struggle than a life like theirs, full of brave acts of great consequence, the most heroic life possible, and from there to enter Valhalla and so become an immortal of myth, joining those already present whom he so venerated. This strange, romantic perspective of Hitler’s thinking should not be overlooked. In a world of harsh political reality, the tendency will be to reject these youthful musings as fantasies, but the fact remains, despite everything at this time of his life, that Adolf Hitler’s personality dwelt only in the truly pious beliefs to which the German heroic sagas had introduced him.” Inside The Third Reich Memoirs by Albert Speer Chief Architect <"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us, then Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness" Otto Dietrich Chief press secretary - The Hitler I knew Memoirs of the Third Reich's Press Chief <He was sharply hostile to christianity and the churches. Primitive Christianity he declared, was the 'first jewish-communistic cell' Hitler was convinced that Christianity was out-molded and dying. He thought he could speed its death by systematic education of German youth" And on top of all of this, why, in a country that was over 95% Christian at the time, was Hitler so utterly surrounded by pagans? Rosenberg, Bormann, Himmler. Before 1933 the Ludendorffs, etc. Hitler also personally donated large sums of money to a Nietzsche museum and there are photos of him standing for pictures in front of the bust. Nietzsche was an extreme anti-Christian. STOP INSULTING HITLER BY ASSOCIATING HIM WITH PROTO-BOLSHEVISM

>>1598 Announcing you're a shitskin, then?

>>1598 Fuck off back to /pol/, newfag. Christians are not welcome on /fascist/. We don’t tolerate jews of any variety

>>1604 >says the newfag coming into an pre-existing community and crying about his rabbi

>>1606 What is more important for each point: >your religion or your race? >a White Europe or a Christian Europe? >marrying your daughter to a Christian regardless of race or a White pagan / atheist No pilpuling us :^)

>>1608 >1)The truth Translated from Hebrew: “not my race, Christianity”

>>1609 Not sure why my ID is changing back and forth, but I’m not doing it on purpose, see >>1492

>>1611 Yup, just what I expected you to say.

>>1597 >jew worshipper Jesus was killed for preaching against the jews of his time. jews hate Jesus. >Christians believe that if you baptize a jew he’ll magically become a “brother in Christ” These are jews who have denounced their jewry. Even Hitler and Mussolini accepted some jews, as they had turned their backs on jewry. Your reasons given for Hitler not being Christian are mainly based on what others said, including Bormann, the spy. Hitler pushed a Positive Christianity and claimed to be a Catholic several times. This is a fact that you jew infiltrators hate. Many officers even wore the phrase "God with us" on their belts.

>>1613 >These are jews who have denounced their jewry. LITERALLY DEFENDING “GOOD JEWS” >Jesus was killed for preaching against the jews of his time. jews hate Jesus. In Jesus' time there were many, many sects of jews, and not all of them agreed on everything. We had Sadducees, Pharisees and Essenes. Essenes were an ascetic jewish community living out at Qumran. They hated the Temple Judaism of the Pharisees and Sadducees just like Jesus. Christians will pretend that Pharisees = jews, period, and not Jesus, Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes = jews. These other jews were jewish supremacists just as much as the other ones today. Some jews hated jews and then declared “ur not reel jooz, we are!”. Christianity is this LARP going on 2,000 years later Jesus didn’t fulfill the jews prophecies about the Messiah (didn’t bring jews back to Israel, didn’t establish NWO in Jerusalem, didn’t destroy and enslave goyim, etc), therefore they rejected him and weaponized this hippie’s teachings for the goyim. As far back as Nietzsche people have realized the trickery of the jews when it comes to “”hating”” Jesus >Your reasons given for Hitler not being Christian are mainly based on what others said, including Bormann, the spy. No proof of the Bormann claims, regardless I gave you four different sources essentially saying the same thing, and I could probably bump it up to five or six if I really tried with Goebbels’ quotes saying the same thing about Christianity from Hitler. These are completely legitimate sources, and there is no reason why they would be lying about this matter. The fact of the matter is that Hitler’s racial nationalism and views of Darwinian struggle and this-worldly affirmations are simply not Christian. It’s as clear as day. >Hitler pushed a Positive Christianity and claimed to be a Catholic several times. Positive Christianity was a complete and utter failure. And people have already BTFO the Catholic claims, as seen here: >>1596. You should be ashamed to even dare to associate Hitler with the pedophiles in the Vatican. >Many officers even wore the phrase "God with us" on their belts. And here we see a Christtard thinking they have a monopoly on God. No one claims Hitler was an atheist.

>>1574 Not anon, but I'd like to note that >no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common We see what this was actually organized as in the Didache. Landowners and householders were expected to offer lodging and food to any christian in need, but this had to be in exchange for work. Specialized trades and crafts were recommended, but if not available, any sort of labor around the estate or on various chores could be substituted, with the bottom line being that <But if he wish to settle with you, being a craftsman, let him work, and so eat; but if he know not any craft, provide ye according to your own discretion, that a Christian may not live idle among you; but if he be not willing to do so, he is a trafficker in Christ. From such keep aloof. Christians were absolutely forbidden from staying idle. To live was to work, to do, and these arrangements in many ways prefigure Fascist triumphs like the Iron Guard's work camps.

>>1574 >collective sharing among a small group of people is not communism. Is your family communist. >Were the real jews Why do you lot keep claiming that we're larping as jews? The claim here is that the judeans of the past were White, just like the ancient Egyptians and Greeks >Well documented How? >Turning away from fascism The same would be the case for bluepilled pagans if I told them that their religion isn't compatible with Fascism. >Christianity is subversive >Being subverted is the same as subverting Paul was a rabid anti Christian before he turned Christian, his goals weren't prioritising conversion to Judaism but to Christianity, especially since the converts weee looked down upon >>1597 >Book literally edited by a French atheist new conman but is somehow gospel in the minds of pagans because NS has to be pagan no matter what. >Surrounded by pagans Of all the people of the NSDAP high command, only 3 are pagans. >Nietzsche He was also a major judeophile, I don't think hitler had to agree with absolutely everything he said in order to donate to his museum. >>1607 Definitely race. Pagan retardation can be fixed but a broken race cannot. >Converts As jews and niggers are not human, they do not recieve salvation. >Quotes Surprisingly this is the first time I heard of any of these. Could you provide the sources? >To manipulate votes >Hitler lied to the people

>>1620 >Why do you lot keep claiming that we're larping as jews? Because you are. I love how you post 6 christians larping as pagans to be "different" rather than actual Aryanists. >The claim here is that the judeans of the past were White, just like the ancient Egyptians and Greeks And that claim is absolutely false, the Ancient Egyptians were not White or rather Nordic beyond a ruling class, that is the extent of the evidence. The same is true of the Greeks who were originally conquerors of the existent people there in the Grecian peninsula and nearby islands, the first iteration of which miscegenated out of existence, only to eventually be conquered by another tribe of these same Nordic men. The Judeans were always what we now call jews, because prior to modernity the name of a Nation was the name of a people, and as such the reason we call jews, well jews is because that is how the name Judean changed over about 1600 years, and they were always semitic, like the majority of Egypt then and now. >How? Go read the book. >The same would be the case for bluepilled pagans if I told them that their religion isn't compatible with Fascism. \Those people are christians they follow christian morality, good riddance to them and you. >Paul was a rabid anti Christian before he turned Christian, his goals weren't prioritising conversion to Judaism but to Christianity, especially since the converts weee looked down upon Paul was a jew who was a student of a Talmudic Scholar who has a very special title to this day, Rabban meaning Our Master, he actually told his fellow jews to be kind to christains and let the "apostles" live, perhaps because He, Mark and Paul had already worked out how Marks creation(jewsus) could be used as a very potent weapon against the goyim. >Of all the people of the NSDAP high command, only 3 are pagans. They all were Pagans from Hitler on down by the very definition of the word, Goebbels, next in line to be fuhrer, was Anti-christian as well unless you somehow doubt the authenticity of his diaries >He was also a major judeophile, I don't think hitler had to agree with absolutely everything he said in order to donate to his museum. That was because he admired their survival strategy, and objectively speaking it is a marvelous strategy, and he viewed needless hate against anyone as ressentiment, if he were alive today he'd probably be an Ethnoglobalist or as the majority of the NS scene now calls it TOTAL ARYAN VICTORY.

>>1623 >he viewed needless hate against anyone as ressentment >if he were alive today he'd probably be an Ethnoglobalist what

>>1619 Yes, this is a traditionally Christian concept, but one could just as easily point out how Marxists have celebrated the same idea in developing the idea of 'proto-Bolshevism': <The socialist principle, "He who does not work shall not eat", is already realized; the other socialist principle, "An equal amount of products for an equal amount of labor", is also already realized. But this is not yet communism, and it does not yet abolish "bourgeois law", which gives unequal individuals, in return for unequal (really unequal) amounts of labor, equal amounts of products. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm#s3 To be honest though, this is less of a principle I necessarily disagree with. The Iron Guard's camps were great ideas too.

>>1620 >Why do you lot keep claiming that we're larping as jews? Because you are. Christianity is a mutant strain of Judaism, you worship a jew as the messiah (i.e. Christ), you worship a Semitic volcano god as the creator of the universe and every single book of the New Testament and Old Testament are written by jewish hands. Don't give us this 'Judean' crap. '''The English word jew is directly descended from Latin 'iudaeus'. If you reborrow an older form of a word that doesn't mean that we're magically talking about different things all of the sudden. >The claim here is that the judeans of the past were White jews are not White and have never been White. All jews alive today can be directly linked with where they came from, and not just in Europe, but in other populations as well such as Yemeni jews, Iraqi jews, etc. >Well documented >How? Rosenberg shows that from the beginning of time - yes, even in your precious Bible, that jews have always been jewing. The image I have attached regarding jewish world domination should make this very clear, though Rosenberg does not go as far as this in his book. >Paul was a rabid anti Christian before he turned Christian, his goals weren't prioritising conversion to Judaism but to Christianity, especially since the converts weee looked down upon Paul never used the word 'Christian'. He understood himself as a jew. His goals were to convert as many goyim as possible to this new strain of Judaism for whatever reasons he had. Already jewish influence was infecting the gentiles in this period of the Roman Empire, but the main problems preventing pagans from converting was jewish law, esp. circumcision and dietary restrictions. Paul went about to say that none of it mattered, and that gentiles could be turned into jews as well. Paul had a subjective experience that no one else could witness and then magically declared himself "Apostle to the Gentiles". Having been taught by the leading rabbi of his day Gamaliel it is only nature to assume that Paul was working to subvert Europeans, especially given the tensions between Rome and the jews during this time. His plot was highly successful. >Of all the people of the NSDAP high command, only 3 are pagans. That is extremely significant given when and where this happened. Plus you neglect Hitler himself, undoubtedly. >He was also a major judeophile, Nietzsche admired the jews for their intelligence and refusal to be written out of history despite multiple attempts to achieve this. However, he saw the attendant culture generated by the jews as a product of their struggle to survive necessarily a reflection of a people brought low. Not something to aspire to. Nietzsche admired the health, beauty, physical prowess lionised by of those living with Master Morality, considered those things as desirable as they said "Yes" to the world rather than the jewish and, by way of inheritance, the Christian (the apotheosis of jewishness) "No". >Quotes The authors are from the people quoted themselves - Schroeder: <He Was My Chief: The Memoirs of Adolf Hitler's Secretary Kubizek: <The Young Hitler I Knew Speer: <Inside The Third Reich Dietrich: <The Hitler I Knew: Memoirs of the Third Reich's Press Chief In fact regarding Dietrich here is an even more extended quote on Hitler and religion that I have attached above. >Hitler lied to the people Skillful means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upaya >>1626 Ethnoglobe is not driven necessarily by irrational hate and resentment. See the fourth pic I have attached.

>>1623 >they are Christians Nice cope, trying to deflect from the fact that Paganism is just as kiked as the modern church, guess what they're saying is "pagan morality" since they call themselves pagans. And the people in your webms are pagans leaping as Christians >Because you are We don't claim to be so it's not possible. >Egypt Literally everyone in north Africa had heavy amounts of European mixture, and even more for the Levant and most of the northern part of the middle East before the Browning™ began. The word jew was coined in the 6th century to describe them. they started being subversive parasites at the time of the conversions. >Rosenberg said it so it must be true ? >Paul Firstly, he was criticized by the rabbi for actively going against his teachings, as seen by his seething hatred and persecution of the Christian faith. Secondly, that rabbi you were talking about earlier was not a talmundist, the talmund wasn't even written until 500 A.D. Lastly, its not very likely that the apostles would let themselves be hunted down and killed just for a made up story (ignoring extrapostolic proofs) just to convert the goyim into accepting Christianity. >They all were Pagans Yeah, sure, Goring was a Pagan, Heydrich was a Pagan because I said so, right? >Goebbels next in line Blatant lie, the Deputy Fuhrers were Hess and Bormann. To claim that the Goebbels Diaries have not been faked (only photographed from a typewritten document, original "diary" missing) is also claiming that Goebbels organised the Kristallnacht event and lied to Hitler about the progress of the war for fun. >survival strategy <being a parasite antichrist worshipper <what a brilliant strategy for survival <so profound <clearly anyone who points out the jewish evil is just jealous Yeah, no thanks. Again, the point is, Hitler donating to a museum means he supports his improvement of humanity ideas, it doesn't mean proof that he was a Pagan and it definitely does not make him a judeophile.

Forgot to address this - >>1620 >>Book literally edited by a French atheist new conman but is somehow gospel in the minds of pagans because NS has to be pagan no matter what. I have not personally touched on Table Talk to build my case precisely because of this stupid controversy. There are at least five different sources from people extremely close to Hitler which support the anti-Christian theory, Table Talk aside. And this is only ones that I am personally familiar with, so it should not be taken as comprehensive. Now why is Table almost surely real? I have a few reasons for believing this. Firstly, there is nothing within the work useful to the jews that Hitler says. Though the dates of the monologues within the book are between 1941 and 1944, Hitler NEVER mentions anything about exterminating the jews — something we are told that was in full swing during this time period. While this doesn’t make it true in itself, it is very telling. If TT is a hit-piece or jewish lie agains Hitler, what exactly does it do that makes him look bad? I say nothing at all, indeed it makes him look even better and highly intelligent with how he can speak at such length on such a wide variety of topics ranging from history, philosophy, art, architecture and the ongoing war-effort. Secondly, nothing in TT conflicts with what we know of Hitler from Mein Kampf or his conduct as Führer. The biggest revelation is his criticisms of Christianity, but this is hardly surprising in many ways due to his worldview founded in the Laws of Nature, as well as the people he surrounded himself with (Bormann, Himmler, Rosenberg, etc) — in fact the anti-Christian Hitler would make far more sense given his actions than the opposite. My third reason is that David Irving endorses TT as being authentic, and claims to have seen the original pages. He seems to say that some English translations are potentially dodgy in some respects, but good enough. http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/Hitler/TableTalk010104.html All these taken together, I have little reason to personally doubt them. Most of the people who claim TT is fake are coping Christians from what I have seen. Though don’t take my word for it, if you’re already well-acquainted with Hitler’s worldview go and read Ostara Publication’s edition of it. They are trustworthy

>>1634 >>1634 >Literally everyone in north Africa had heavy amounts of European mixture, and even more for the Levant and most of the northern part of the middle East before the Browning™ began. This is almost as retarded as saying that because there are loads of mestizos in Central and South America that these areas used to be White. >The word jew was coined in the 6th century to describe them. they started being subversive parasites at the time of the conversions. As stated here (which you probably haven't seen yet since I just posted it in the last twenty minutes, the word jew is merely an English reflection of the Latin word for jew : >>1633 >Firstly, he was criticized by the rabbi for actively going against his teachings You're lying again, anon. In Acts 22:3 Paul is still introducing himself proudly as a student of the greatest of rabbis: < “I am a jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city. I studied under Gamaliel and was thoroughly trained in the law of our ancestors. I was just as zealous for God as any of you are today. This was literally after Gamaliel in Acts 5 had the apostles flogged and showed them leniency. He was so well-respected that all of the other Sanhedrin jews went along with his advice. He was a giga-kike 4D-chess master, it's no surprise that he knew what Paul was doing. >survival strategy The jewish survival strategy is superior to that of Europeans today. The jews make a firm in-group / out-group distinction and prioritize the existence and importance of their people above all. This is why they have endured so much, and have been extremely difficult to stamp out. The closest group to this strategy is Muslims and how they act, and again it is extremely successful in promoting their survival. Since you are Christcuck pozzed by universal moral duties, it is no surprise that you cry about their survival strategy.

>>1553 >Posting a pic of some commie wiccan cunt witch subverting paganism Totally 100% accurate guyz

>>1641 It's very important for Christians to realize that there is ample evidence that so-called "witches" were killed in the pagan world. Modern day 'witchcraft' or Wicca is derived from masonic concepts and ideas like Thelema created by homosexual freak and freemason Aleister Crowley. Gardner's Masonic pseudo-religion was partially created for his own sexual reasons too, namely to get girls to prance around naked in the woods. This stuff has nothing in common with Indo-European Natural Law-based religions.

>>1634 >Nice cope, trying to deflect from the fact that Paganism is just as kiked as the modern church, guess what they're saying is "pagan morality" since they call themselves pagans. And the people in your webms are pagans leaping as Christians It's not cope, its the facts and those webm's aren't mine, but those "progressive priests" are in fact truer to the bible and jewsus's lessons than you are. The evidence is how the early Christians acted, which is no different than bolshevists and most christians of any variety today. >We don't claim to be so it's not possible. This is literally the central claim of Christian Aryanists(positive Christkikery reborn) and Christian Identists today, both are batshit insane and they either try to, in the case of the first, just retcon everybody besides maybe Paul as White and not jewish, and in the case of the second use talmudic scholarship and outright false interpretations of the bible to make the claim that "ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE DA REAL JEWS". >Literally everyone in north Africa had heavy amounts of European mixture, and even more for the Levant and most of the northern part of the middle East before the Browning™ began. This is historically false, the semitic hordes were never greatly admixed with Europeans and there are plenty of studies both genetic and archaeological which prove otherwise. >The word jew was coined in the 6th century to describe them. they started being subversive parasites at the time of the conversions. Again just plain false, we have multiple romans talking shit on the jews prior to the Christkike takeover(Julian during this take over) and subsequent collapse of Rome and then the next 1600 years of the religion being the primary vehicle of the destruction of the Aryan/Nordic race. >Rosenberg said it so it must be true Not what I said, I said to read the book. >Firstly, he was criticized by the rabbi for actively going against his teachings, as seen by his seething hatred and persecution of the Christian faith. The other guy covered this better Secondly, that rabbi you were talking about earlier was not a talmundist, the talmud wasn't even written until 500 A.D. Yes here we go with the IT MUST BE WRITTEN TO BE REAL, this is false the Talmud was and still is an oral tradition stretching back to the jews subverting and causing the destruction of Babylon >Lastly, its not very likely that the apostles would let themselves be hunted down and killed just for a made up story (ignoring extrapostolic proofs) just to convert the goyim into accepting Christianity. HAHAHA, you are seriously naive if you think people won't just believe blatantly false shit, especially in a time when literacy was not a common trait and roman records were not accessible to those who weren't literate I mean fuck YOU are an example of that exact phenomenon! >Yeah, sure, Goring was a Pagan, Heydrich was a Pagan because I said so, right? Yes because they acted like Aryan men, despite holding on to a fictional jew. probably a mistake on Hitler's part to allow it but we work with what we have. Blatant lie, the Deputy Fuhrers were Hess and Bormann. Not a blatant lie just because Bormann and Hess were there to take Hitlers place when he could not fulfil the duties of the office does not mean they would be the next Fuhrer, Hitler was setting up a selection process and Goebbels was the second most powerful man in the Reich and one of Hitlers most trusted confidants, and best friend he was the natural choice. >To claim that the Goebbels Diaries have not been faked (only photographed from a typewritten document, original "diary" missing) is also claiming that Goebbels organised the Kristallnacht event and lied to Hitler about the progress of the war for fun. I'll make a whole post(Maybe several) about this, and TT authenticity, as I have something for just this bullshit claim. >Nietzsche ><being a parasite antichrist worshipper ><what a brilliant strategy for survival ><so profound ><clearly anyone who points out the jewish evil is just jealous >Yeah, no thanks. Nietzsche pointed out how your religion is jewish and in fact calleds it the ULTIMATE CONCLUSION OF JUDAISM in an expert well educated and pretty much unarguable against way, yet here you sit as the very Last Man he warned about. >Again, the point is, Hitler donating to a museum means he supports his improvement of humanity ideas, it doesn't mean proof that he was a Pagan and it definitely does not make him a judeophile. who said it did?

Can you imagine wanting to be a jew? Wanting to reject your entire beautiful Europe heritage for some hook-nosed, disgusting Semites living in a desert, claiming that they were White all along?

>>1634 Should be high enough resolution for you to read.

Can you really call yourself a National Socialist if your religion dictates or has more control over your life than National Socialism? The National Socialist knows they don't need religions in order to have a spiritual fulfilling life. The National Socialist actively and naturally pursues the highest achievable goals of becoming spiritual enlightened. The National Socialist follows the Eternal Natural way as it is the only way we need to go. The National Socialist doesn't shun the religious — we can only show the religious the path to take. If you don't follow it fine that is what you choose, but don't call your self something your not. Most if not all religions for the National Socialist conflict as most do not honor nature and eternal truth. These man made religions much rather rule over nature and disregard the eternal truth and force it's followers to live and believe in a fantasy land of angels and invisible gods in the clouds. We do not — much care for the fantasy nor do we worry what is in store for us at the end of our life. We are much more concerned about the here and now. We a here to help our people in this world and not the other as we exist here and not there for the time being. Our time and existence in this human form are relatively short here on earth compared to the grand sceheme, age, and existence of the universe. Our lives and existence are merely a blink of an eye for the universe. So why waste this opportunity of life worrying, arguing and deciphering past ancient religions when we can be making history. Become the people that are written in the history books.

>>1635 As I said, it wasn't directly received or edited by any major anti-fascist organisations, so the amount of forgery is limited. But it is still forgery, and Genoud's atheism left a clear trail. >Of judeans The difference in this case is that the word was used to describe the case of the rejection of Jesus. Since this condition is not present before Christ, it is inaccurate to call jews judeans. >quotes Again, I ask for the original documents and the page for each of these because I have never seen this brought up before in similar debates. It was always either a Himmler quote or Table Talks. >>1637 We have evidence of ancient White history in north africa as well as surrounding areas. >Paul and gamaliel I am not. The Talmud itself describes Gamaliel as teaching a student who displayed "impudence in learning". Paul was not only rude to his own teacher, he was a fanatic. >jews showing in group preference Much worse. They seek the eradication of all who are not them, and rely on the empathy shown by normal human beings to survive. They group together to fulfil their goal and do not show any kindness towards the goyim, except when it benefits them (trying to convince humans that they aren't evil). A preference for your own group is fine, nationalism is healthy and vital for a people, but the situation when an Estonian sees a Frenchman dying of hunger, and tells him to fuck off because he is not an Estonian, it isn't good, because it undermines the White unified spirit. >>1641 >posting dishonest images is bad except when I do it

>>1642 We had magical systems, the "Witches" the christians slaughtered were herbalists and healers, and even some seers, I am sure, we never slaughtered them like the christians do, because the majority of them were married and harmless, subversive religious teachings have always been purged from all of our societies like the Oera Linda cultists.

>>1660 This is a good point, and you are right. What the Romans were mostly against was malicious forms of magic, such as crop-charming, curses, degenerate cults or sects, etc. There's an interesting book I have a PDF of where it documents all sorts of happenings in Roman and Greek times involving magic, witchcraft and the like, and how many of the types of stuff described above were punishable by death, bans, book-burnings, etc. Herbalists and healers are certainly not evil just by themselves. This is Christian to say, of course. Regarding seers too, we see them stuff like that in Greece with the oracles.

>>1661 >What the Romans were mostly against was malicious forms of magic, such as crop-charming, curses, degenerate cults or sects, etc. I speak not only of the romans, we have the Galdr and Seidr of the Norse beliefs as well, and their abilities are not well known but if we take the gods to be literal ancestors(they are but it's more complex than them just being ancestors) then the stories of their deeds and power may be a clue to what their abilities were and we also have the Völvas, the born seeresses, women to whom the normal rules do not seem to have applied because of their abilities.

>>1652 >Genoud's atheism left a clear trail. Hitler condemns atheism in Table Talk and puts it on par with communism. Night of 11th-12th July 1941: <Man has discovered in nature the wonderful notion of that all-mighty being whose law he worships. <Fundamentally in everyone there is the feeling for this all- mighty, which we call God (that is to say, the dominion of natural laws throughout the whole universe). The priests, who have always succeeded in exploiting this feeling, threaten punishments for the man who refuses to accept the creed they impose. [...] <We don't want to educate anyone in atheism. 14th October 1941, midday <An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal) >Again, I ask for the original documents and the page for each of these because I have never seen this brought up before in similar debates Nigger, we live in an age where we can download a PDF and find these things within five minutes. All of these books are readily findable online in either EPUB or PDF format. >Paul was not only rude to his own teacher, he was a fanatic. Not hard to see a fanatical jew going off on his own mission to destroy the gentiles apart from the rest, and causing some issues along the way. >Much worse. They seek the eradication of all who are not them, and rely on the empathy shown by normal human beings to survive. Yes. This is merely the dharma of the jew. This is not to say that Europeans should become just like jews to acknowledge that this is their survival strategy, of course. It’s worth realizing that this jewish strategy outcompetes other strategies almost every time though, moralfagging aside, looking at this from a purely survival-centric worldview. We cannot fight someone who cares not about honor by being honorable. This is suicide. jews put the goal of securing the existence of their people as their highest absolute goal, to an extreme extent, to the extent that they will destroy everything to gain power for the shortest instant of time. They are fundamentally a parasitic and sick form of life. Neurotic, ugly and evil.

>>1649 Winning a lawsuit doesn't say much with the kiked court system. The main argument with the authenticity of the Goebbels Diaries isn't bad translation or anything. The problem is 1) It was typewritten and could've easily been edited 2) It is contradictory And for the Table Talks, the major parts quoted, which have been considered the most damaging, are the ones that are to be removed Hitler disliked the main church, and rightfully so, for its misinterpreted texts served to confuse priests who opposed NS under the delusion that it was bad

>>1652 >Much worse. They seek the eradication of all who are not them, and rely on the empathy shown by normal human beings to survive. So wait only the kikes are the bad guys? I figured Whites would be doing the same thing to the other races if weren't the kikes.

>>1663 That's very true. I did not even think of the Germanic pagans, but now that you mention them you're right. These people are certainly not evil. The practices themselves are neutral, but how they are used is the what matters. >>1668 >bad guys This isn't a comic book, and no, jews are not the only enemy we face. I keep seeing people here not being able to understand the reality of eternal struggle in nature, even though this is key to National Socialism > I figured Whites would be doing the same thing to the other races if weren't the kikes. Why would we necessarily need to subvert other groups and destroy them? If we had a reason to destroy them that secured the existence of our people it would be far less objectionable. Just because some other group exists doesn't necessitate to destroying them. jews think that it does though, even if they aren't threatening them

>>1666 >Winning a lawsuit doesn't say much with the kiked court system. this does because its descendants of "Nazi's actually winning a court case, In GERMANY of all places in 2015 and against one of the largest publishing firms in the world Random House but leaving those details out does trivialize it, doesn't it? >The main argument with the authenticity of the Goebbels Diaries isn't bad translation or anything. Nobody said it was >The problem is >1) It was typewritten and could've easily been edited This could be said of any document, even handwritten ones, not a valid claim whatsoever >2) It is contradictory Contradictory with what? HISPUBLIC THOUGHTS AND VIEWS? good luck saying or proving that every man isn't going to display different views in his private diaries than he would publicly. >And for the Table Talks, the major parts quoted, which have been considered the most damaging, are the ones that are to be removed Which parts? all the ones that shit on your jewish relgion? >Hitler disliked the main church, and rightfully so, for its misinterpreted texts served to confuse priests who opposed NS under the delusion that it was bad Hitler Disliked Christianity and outlines why quite well why in Mein Kampf even though it is obvious that he or his editors lightened the language or took swathes out to avoid triggering the niggers like you who would go on and on about OUYR LORD JEWSUS OPROTECTS AND SAAAVES US AMEN(SO BE IT IN HEBREW)

HITLER'S MEIN KAMPF AND CHRISTIANITY The string "Christ" appears in Mein Kampf 46 times. Seventeen of the mentions are in relation to Karl Lueger's Christian-Socialist Party, something which Hitler both admires for their Pan-German policy and criticizes harshly in regards to their position on the JQ: >The anti-Semitism of the Christian-Socialists was based on religious instead of racial principles. The reason for this mistake gave rise to the second error also. >It was obvious, however, that this kind of anti-Semitism did not upset the jews very much, simply because it had a purely religious foundation. If the worst came to the worst a few drops of baptismal water would settle the matter, hereupon the jew could still carry on his business safely and at the same time retain his jewish nationality. >It was anti-Semitic only in outward appearance. And this was worse than if it had made no pretences at all to anti-Semitism; for the pretence gave rise to a false sense of security among people who believed that the enemy had been taken by the ears; but, as a matter of fact, the people themselves were being led by the nose. This is a devastating criticism of Christianity when one thinks about it. The nature of the jew is affirmed as biological, and a racial approach is advocated for. So much for 17 of the 46 appearances. There is a single mention of Christendom (not counting the one in the preface), which reads as follows: >Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts' content, while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve. Not much to draw from this statement. Germany was over 90% Christian, Mein Kampf was intended for the masses, and D&C in Germany between two types of Christkikes was bad from a nationalistic point of view for obvious reasons. The term Christianity appears in Mein Kampf six times in this work spanning hundreds of pages, again excluding a single mention in the author's preface. Here are two of the mentions in one paragraph: >If religious life in pre-war Germany had a disagreeable savour for the mouths of many people this was because Christianity had been lowered to base uses by political parties that called themselves Christian and because of the shameful way in which they tried to identify the Catholic Faith with a political party. A statement on jews and Christianity: >His life is of this world only and his mentality is as foreign to the true spirit of Christianity as his character was foreign to the great Founder of this new creed two thousand years ago. And the Founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His estimation of the jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation. It's important to remember that the whipping of the jews in the temple was explicitly in service of a jewish prophecy. Also, in reference to Table Talk it's clear that Hitler believed that Jesus was an Aryan who fought against jewish materialism, he never refers to him as any sort of "messiah" (Hebrew word, there) or God. 1/3

>The greatness of Christianity did not arise from attempts to make compromises with those philosophical opinions of the ancient world which had some resemblance to its own doctrine, but in the unrelenting and fanatical proclamation and defence of its own teaching. This is said in relation to the power of ideas that energize a movement. Christcucks will latch onto the word "greatness", but in the preceding paragraph it is said: >The greatness of every powerful organization which embodies a creative idea lies in the spirit of religious devotion and intolerance with which it stands out against all others, because it has an ardent faith in its own right. Then later: >Christianity was not content with erecting an altar of its own. It had first to destroy the pagan altars. It was only in virtue of this passionate intolerance that an apodictic faith could grow up. And intolerance is an indispensable condition for the growth of such a faith Later: >Each one of us to-day may regret the fact that the advent of Christianity was the first occasion on which spiritual terror was introduced into the much freer ancient world, but the fact cannot be denied that ever since then the world is pervaded and dominated by this kind of coercion and that violence is broken only by violence and terror by terror The much freer ancient world? Every other mention of "Christian" is used in the context of "Christian denominations", matter of fact statements about how "the progress made by the missions in spreading the Christian Faith abroad was only quite modest in comparison with the spread of Mohammedanism.", referring to "Pre-Christian Germans", Christians converting niggers, etc.

Finally, Hitler's conception of God is incompatible with Christcuckery. His "religion" was based on the eternal Laws of Nature and the Darwinian struggle for existence, not your gay shit about "sin", "repentance" and "salvation". All throughout Mein Kampf (which you've never read lol), Hitler routinely, again and again 'personifies Nature, speaks of Nature's Laws, the Will of Nature, the intention of Nature, etc. Likewise he rarely refers to God, but rather to something he refers to as Providence. He also uses several times through very many very un-Christian ways of speaking such as these: > The Goddess of Fate clutched me in her hands and often threatened to smash me; but the will grew stronger as the obstacles increased, and finally the will triumphed. >They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people >who has the right to shout that triumphant word if he has not won the right to it there where there is no play-acting and where the hand of the Goddess of Destiny puts the truth and sincerity of nations and men through her inexorable test? >I also felt that the Goddess of Vengeance was now getting ready to redress the treason of the 9th of November, 1918. The hall was emptied. The movement was on the march > the gentle goddess of Peace can only walk in company with the god of War, and that every great act of peace must be protected and assisted by force. 3/3 THERE IS A FAR STRONGER CASE TO ARGUE FOR HITLER BEING AN AVATAR THAN THERE IS FOR HIM TO BE A CHRISTKIKE

>>1668 >I figured Whites would be doing the same thing to the other races if weren't the kikes. Are you serious or just stupid? We were benevolent. We(Actually retard anglos) even took the fucking kikes in to our greatest misfortune because of their cromwellian Christcuck religious convictions literally establishing them in currency, loans, banking because of bizzare desert religion retard-ism. The funny thing is even when we had ultimate power over the lower races we never did the jew shit, we didn't parasitically blend in as them to fuck their people over, we came to their shitholes and literally always gave something back, eventually giving them entire countries back with built railroads, hospitals roads and schools for the fucking idiots just for a few decades if not a century of labour and spices. Shadowskins were given a deal of a fucking lifetime and jews "blame us" for giving them literally every modern accommodation including medicine and literally creating their education systems which is almost unfathomable for people to understand that they can't live without today nonetheless they are so retarded they will believe anything even though we charitably made these fucking shitskins, to our great dismay again. White people never lead a relentless parasitic usurer existance as a minority always scheming to blend in like jews who have created nothing, jews unlike White people only exist by benefiting from others work where the survival strategy is literal parasitism which explains their behaviors and why they have been expelled from Europe 300 times over, hated globally, but are still to this day they say they are convinced and tell us that "it's never their fault" meanwhile evil kike goblin scum like Joel bernstein and Noel ignatiev get away with soliciting White murder openly and then wonder why anti-semitism exist. Obviously sharing anything we made with the lower races was evidently an ecological and human disaster and in retrospect something that should have never happened, but we did it anyway, we even shared with the jews who literally want to destroy us for being retarded and sharing anything. The shadowskin and niggers would never ever do such a thing, ever, if it somehow in an alternate universe were them who were capable of creating anything good they'd literally use their creation as leverage to torture rape and murder and to spread their savage ways like that one time the ottoman subhumans managed to breach into kosovo and would originally ram giant sharpened logs to impale people alive on through the anus, but when Vlad Tepes finally came around to gaving them the same treatment they did to Europeans for decades before Vlad the darkskins immidiately cowered in fear like animals who did not expect their own animalistic subhuman behaviors given back to them. In the end the savages should have been responsibly left alone, a comparison would be alien contact with a higher civilization meeting the lower one not engaging because it will taint their culture. Who made it so it wasn't? Normal people didn't give a fuck about them and thought they were animalistic and so curious, yet not completely treating them horrible see: (Haiti Revolution 1791 nigs being freed by libshit christcucks and as thanks immidiately kill Whites who free them lol) Such retarded leftists and Christcuck marxists(the original globalists) who started handing out gibs and free shit, hellbent on defying natural law and not letting nature take its course infected with the mind-virus saw them literally as "equals" and did all they could to taint their culture to "elevate" them creating a culture of trying to dress pigs who to this fucking day overpopulate, pollute the earth dumping plastic everywhere, possess incredibly and dangerous technology like nuclear weapons yet still something absurd like 80% of them shit in the street. Yet globalists demand we treat them with silk gloves and baby them, treat them as "equals" although their societal behaviors are unacceptable in our countries. In other words they are afforded to live beyond their evolution when all these things they have is technology that was literally given to them never should have gotten their filthy hands on in the first place being incredibly dangerous. Think about how insane it is. If we can get out of this to learn from we know that this must never happen again and the retards attempting this shit must die.

>>1644 >Again just plain false, we have multiple romans talking shit on the jews prior to the Christkike takeover(Julian during this take over) and subsequent collapse of Rome and then the next 1600 years of the religion being the primary vehicle of the destruction of the Aryan/Nordic race. Not even just Aryans/Nordics, but if you look at Asian countries like Korea - which post 1945 used the same Judeo-Christian model as the US for it's nation - and look at how it primed them for the exact same levels of equality-cult acceptance. Now you have the feminists taking control, the men weakened and ostracized, the birth rates in the toilet setting the stage for mass immigration, and the whole "love thy neightbor" shit which has created a fetishism for foriegn shit. This is real world confirmation that Christianity is a poison to anything it touches, and it destroys any racial group who embraces it's cucked teachings. It is the precursor to Communist subversion.

>>1685 >Not even just Aryans/Nordics, True but those peoples are my enemy as well what hurts them is good for me.

>>1690 >True but those peoples are my enemy as well what hurts them is good for me. I fail to see how gooks are an enemy, if anything they would be a one of the few good allies against the kike along with the nips.

>>1695 Gooks and Nips hate each other, that alliance wouldn't work out very well, unfortunately, or at least I'd imagine. Both South and North Korea would probably rather team up than see Japan embrace the emperor ideology and militarism again, sadly. Nips are basically the only good Asian ally I can think of. South Korea also has a major problem with judeophilia, Christianity and degeneracy. I don't know if I'd call them my "enemy" though. Pretty neutral towards them. I don't really like them though.

>>1695 There are gooks here in the US invading just like all the others, how are they not an enemy?

>>1701 It seems like he was talking in general sense, not in regards to the invaders present in our countries.

>>1701 I don't condone those that come and cause trouble, I was merely pointing out that generally they are respectful of the nation and culture they are in, but that doesn't mean they should be staying here. They are in the same boat as us in terms of what the jew is doing to their culture, and nation. They have been pushing the globalisation shit on them for a while, and even forcing kids to learn English first over their own language. Korea has always been in a rough spot due to geopgraphy, if it wasn't the chinks fucking with them, it was the Japs, and now Americans or jews. At the end of the day having other groups you can work with to achive your goals is valuble, and the fact of the matter is that we just don't have the numbers to fight alone successfully. Korea is one of the few intelligent, non-White countries that is facing the same problems we are and could be sympathetic in the future. >>1702 Yes. >>1697 I think you are right about the Japs due to the history, but I would take that "judeophilia" shit with a grain of salt. The government of Korea has been operating the same way the Western counterparts have for awhile, taking a shit on their own people and trampling on their traditions; I doubt a majority of Koreans buy that shit as much as they'd like you to believe.

>>1705 con't. Think of it from the opposite perspective. If the U.S. media and their nigger worship is viewed by our Korean counterparts, would they not assume the same thing? It's just propaganda to misdirect from whats really happening, and what people really think.

Every time

>>1702 Even in a general sense, they're an enemy. At a base level, they are our enemy, they are not our kin, they are not our people. They use their existence, no matter how "respectful" they are of our culture and our false nation-state, they aid our enemies and themselves at cost to us, therefore they are a threat to the existence and future existence of my people, so they are my enemy, now and forever. >>1705 >I don't condone those that come and cause trouble, I was merely pointing out that generally they are respectful of the nation and culture they are in, but that doesn't mean they should be staying here. I don't condone any of them and they are not "respectful" of anything they have their own nation, yet they came here to a place that is by blood rights, and the slaughter of it's previous inhabitants by my ancestors, is mine, and took from me and my kin, how is that respect? how is that any grounds for an alliance? they came FROM their place to mine and stole from me, willfully with no regard for what is ours or the existence of my people, so I will return the favor and disregard their existence and future existence. >They are in the same boat as us in terms of what the jew is doing to their culture, and nation. So what? the weaker they are the easier it will be to conquer and exterminate them as they aid the jew and our White traitors in doing now. >They have been pushing the globalisation shit on them for a while, and even forcing kids to learn English first over their own language. Again, so? >Korea has always been in a rough spot due to geopgraphy, if it wasn't the chinks fucking with them, it was the Japs, and now Americans or jews. So? >At the end of the day having other groups you can work with to achive your goals is valuble, and the fact of the matter is that we just don't have the numbers to fight alone successfully. We have no grounds to build an alliance with them this shit has been trie34d before and always fails, we stand alone and we will rise or fall alone. >Korea is one of the few intelligent, non-White countries that is facing the same problems we are and could be sympathetic in the future. They are not sympathetic now and never were in the past, how could they be in the future?

>>1709 They literally never change. >>1705 At the very least it's clear that they are being subjected to degeneracy through popular cultural, entertainment and the like in a similar way to us. See kpop, etc. South Korea is of course a ZOG as well, quite literally occupied by the jewSA. Now whether Koreans are inherently kike-ish or anything, I don't know. >>1705

>>1710 >They are not sympathetic now and never were in the past, how could they be in the future? They were sympathetic in the past when Western nations sacriiced to help them escape from Communism during the Korean war. Many of the older generation are still thankful for that.

>>1710 >We have no grounds to build an alliance with them this shit has been trie34d before and always fails, we stand alone and we will rise or fall alone Then we have a fundamental disagreement. It's a few narrow view of our problem. Obviously the jew knows he cannot win without coersion of other groups, even Hitler knew that fighting alone was foolish and reckless. If we don't do the same we will fall alone and the jew will fullfill his propecy unhindered. This is a global war, and the jew is working overtime to turn everyone against US with his propaganda. We must do the same, and ally with like-minded groups to turn the tide. Look at how thier nigger worship has turned Latinos against them, another group that we might be able to cooperate with. Think about the big picture, anon.

>>1715 >They were sympathetic in the past when Western nations sacrificed to help them escape from Communism during the Korean war. Many of the older generation are still thankful for that. And who paid the greatest cost for their liberty? US or them? how much did we waste saving less than half of them from communism? many lives and a fuckton of resources and things that should have been used to benefit our own? especially when the commie side seems to be doing better than expected? They are not sympathetic, and cannot bem or they would send out an order for all of their racial brethren invading our countries to return home and keep them there, in fact, if they were actually sympathetic they would never have allowed them to leave and dilute our blood and steal from our people in the first place. >Then we have a fundamental disagreement. It's a few narrow view of our problem. No it's an accurate view of our problem, I want the invaders dead for their crimes against my people, allying with their homes will not help us, their homes will refuse to take the ones who invaded when idiots like you try to deport them, what then now that you've wasted months and huge portions of resources BETTER USED FOR OUR PEOPLE keeping these shitskins alive, will you kill them or enslave them? or try to force them to go home wasting more resources building boats or planes on which to send them? >Obviously the jew knows he cannot win without coersion of other groups,even Hitler knew that fighting alone was foolish and reckless. Did he win the war? did those allies who were racial enemies, fight to the death like the germans themselves did or did they abandon the fight as soon as they could? and defect to the other side? > If we don't do the same we will fall alone and the jew will fullfill his propecy unhindered. This is global war, of all our enemies from the jew to the gook coming to kill our people and you want to ally with them as they stab us repeatedly, are you just fucking stupid?! >This is a global war, and the jew is working overtime to turn everyone against US with his propaganda. They didn't need to do that at all, the propaganda is to make sure we feel guilty, the others all hate us at a visceral level regardless of what the jew does or does not do, because we are their enemy. >We must do the same, and ally with like-minded groups to turn the tide. Here you go again with the ally with the niggers rhetoric look at how that worked for Rockwell, it didn't >Look at how thier nigger worship has turned Latinos against them, another group that we might be able to cooperate with. Think about the big picture, anon. I have thought about the big picture you ignorant fool, Latinos(many of whom have Marrano heritage) hate us more than the nigger, and show it by allowing and pushing their own to come here and steal resources from us, jobs from our people and to distribute drugs across the entirety of the US through the extremely extensive gang networks they have set up, but yes we can totally ally with these fucking feathernigger abominations that are barely better than niggers.

>>1718 >And who paid the greatest cost for their liberty? US or them? how much did we waste saving less than half of them from communism? many lives and a fuckton of resources and things that should have been used to benefit our own? especially when the commie side seems to be doing better than expected? They are not sympathetic, and cannot bem or they would send out an order for all of their racial brethren invading our countries to return home and keep them there, in fact, if they were actually sympathetic they would never have allowed them to leave and dilute our blood and steal from our people in the first place. To be honest they paid the greatest price for their liberty, with us behind them if you look at the numbers. Blame the US government for not pushing the chinks back when MacArthur wanted to, the same retards who pulled out of Vietnam after they wasted hundreds of thousands of lives. The commie side is only doing better because our side has been infected with jewry and their dogma. Ironically, the commie side became less pozzed over time due to limited contact with the outside world. I would wager most of them went to the US to escape the constant state of war they are living under as a result of the unfinished war. I don't see how Koreans have stolen anything from us tbh. Maybe some have mixed with us, but that is probably the worst. >I want the invaders dead for their crimes against my people I share your sentiments when it comes to niggers, chinks etc. But I don't see them all through the same lens, especially when we could use all the help we could get. >Did he win the war? did those allies who were racial enemies, fight to the death like the germans themselves did or did they abandon the fight as soon as they could? and defect to the other side? I would argue they probably tried their best until they deemed the conflict unwinnable, too bad they didn't have the forsight to know they wouldn't have freedom anyway. >This is global war, of all our enemies from the jew to the gook coming to kill our people and you want to ally with them as they stab us repeatedly, are you just fucking stupid?! What does the gook have to gain from killing us? They are the next to be destroyed. Asians are the next group to be enriched with niggers and multiculturalism as the jew has said. Why do you think they are doing what they are doing to Japan, Korea, and Taiwan? >They didn't need to do that at all, the propaganda is to make sure we feel guilty, the others all hate us at a visceral level regardless of what the jew does or does not do, because we are their enemy. Not true entirely, some maybe, but I wouldn't conclude all. How can we be the enemy of those we've had no contact with? Or those who have prospered as a result of our influence? I disagree. The propaganda is to turn them against us. The jew misdirects his crimes onto us, which is why we are targeted; the slave trade, the wars, the stolen money, the sex crimes. To a non-White they cannot tell the difference from one of us and a jew. >Here you go again with the ally with the niggers rhetoric look at how that worked for Rockwell, it didn't Niggers are hopeless, and I'm not advocating bothering with them, but how did it harm Rockwell? It wasn't them that got him killed it was the kikes. It was a smart move on Rockwells part to try and turn niggers against the jew. >I have thought about the big picture you ignorant fool, Latinos(many of whom have Marrano heritage) hate us more than the nigger, and show it by allowing and pushing their own to come here and steal resources from us, jobs from our people and to distribute drugs across the entirety of the US through the extremely extensive gang networks they have set up, but yes we can totally ally with these fucking feathernigger abominations that are barely better than niggers. While that may be true, there are still those with our blood among them who are anti-communist, anti-jew. Those who have lived through that hell and seek nothing but to destroy it. Those people are friends stuck in a mess of shit. All I am saying is that there are people out there in the unlikeliest of places who are valuble to our struggle against the kike.

>>1724 Personally I think talk of 'alliances' is pretty much worthless unless we literally controlled a government or movement relevant enough to be in contact with foreign governments. Non-White governments don't give a shit about what lemmings think, and they would willingly cooperate if it was in their interests. Lemmings on the other hand, especially invaders, are too brainwashed to be of much use even trying to get their 'help'. That effort would be better used on other Whites, anyway.

>>1724 >To be honest they paid the greatest price for their liberty, with us behind them if you look at the numbers. They paid the greatest number of lives in the war, sure, but we paid greater in nearly every other way. >The commie side is only doing better because our side has been infected with jewry and their dogma. What do you think communism is? they're doing better because they stayed to themselves and yet North Koreans are caught infiltrating and immigrating here plenty and somehow you think that doesn't make them enemies? >I share your sentiments when it comes to niggers, chinks etc. But I don't see them all through the same lens, especially when we could use all the help we could get. We could use it sure, we will not get it, it will not occur, and if you honestly believe we can get this, you're a fool of the highest order. >I would argue they probably tried their best until they deemed the conflict unwinnable, too bad they didn't have the forsight to know they wouldn't have freedom anyway. So you would argue that they tried their best even though they unlike Germany were not raped and burned and pillaged and genocided by both the East and West after the war? I think even you know that's not the case. >What does the gook have to gain from killing us? A world with one less threat to their existence, and all the resources, land, and women they can steal from us, simple easy motivations that they will always have. >They are the next to be destroyed. Asians are the next group to be enriched with niggers and multiculturalism as the jew has said. Why do you think they are doing what they are doing to Japan, Korea, and Taiwan? The jew targets everyone does not change the fact that just as the jew is our enemy, so is the gook, and the jap who helps the jew kill us, for what? a little extra money, and safety from the terror of the Aryan man. >Not true entirely, some maybe, but I wouldn't conclude all. No, all, lemmings never count and they follow their leaders. >How can we be the enemy of those we've had no contact with? They occupy the same place in this world wee do Bipedal, Second Order Tool-Using Hairless Apes, they are an enemy simply by existing, on land that we can use with resources on and under it that we can also use better and less destructively than they can. >To a non-White they cannot tell the difference from one of us and a jew. And they never will. >It wasn't them that got him killed it was the kikes. It was a smart move on Rockwells part to try and turn niggers against the jew. It was a commie who assassinated him, but even so there was a time when he had Malcolm X as an ally, and when called upon X failed him, why is that I wonder? because helping your enemy hurts you and the White man was X's enemy. >While that may be true, there are still those with our blood among them who are anti-communist, anti-jew. No there aren't, there are a few scattered people who see the truth, like Cesar Tort, who I would gladly work with because, no only does he have no desire to breed and further his disgusting line, he, unlike you, sees why all Non-Whites should be exterminated, though he and I may differ on exactly why.

>>1725 They are worthless even then, every compromise or concession we make and we would have to, to have an alliance, weakens our position as once we attain power why would we need to concede anything to any other power?

>>1727 >Cesar Tort Chechar's blog right?Is he a spic or is he like a part White spic?

>>1750 Think he’s part spic. He’s very good on Christianity though

>>1668 jews strive for the extermination of non-jews becuase they believe that they are superior and their blood commands them to. Whites kill people who have wronged them, and they conquer for cheap labour and profits (colonial empires), pure hatred is rare. >>1671 >winning a court case Q:Does declaring a legal victory harm them in any way? >any document Any other document did not get passed through allied hands multiple times. >Contradictory with what? Orchestrating Kristallnacht but still being let in the party and lying to hitler for his own benefit. This is an indication that some parts of it were likely edited by Ivan Ivanov Ivanovich, junior editor at Pravda, in order to make Goebbels look bad. >Which parts? The ones quoted the most, the most critical and at the same time the most uncharacteristic of Hitler >obvious that the editors lightened the language Proof? >>1673 >hitler said that anti semitism should be based on ethnic grounds rather than religious ones >clearly this meant hitler hated christianity >he never refers to him as any sort of "messiah" Because he never renounced his faith and it was understood what he meant? >>1675 >Hitler's conception of God is incompatible with Christcuckery. No, the christian worldview is not at odds with the natural one

>>1764 >Because he never renounced his faith and it was understood what he meant? He spent a massive deal of time bashing Christianity and called it from the beginning a form of proto-Bolshevism, you are desperate if you think that Hitler could be in anyway Christian or 'faith' in Jesus in any way. He's the exact same as Savitri Devi. He didn't hate Jesus as a man, but didn't view him as who Christians say that he was, and that's fair enough. > the christian worldview is not at odds with the natural one Kek

Relevant video from a christcuck about Hitler and the church. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzNXdsxZo3k

>muh "peaceful" religion from the desert and vatican child molesters is totally organic >jews write book for jews that is super strict but somehow also write book for White people with different weak rules where everyone is "equal" except jews being specifically written down as "holy" >"Nooo it is coincidence" (execute typical tricks) >not another version of the abrahamokike triology >this is not subversion >I'm so insecure I must constantly sperg about what those pagans and whoever else say about it Every christcuck

>>1822 The most saddening part of all of this is that they literally refuse to admit that they have been jew'd since birth with Christianity, even in spite all of the points in this thread and the stuff you posted here. I have redpilled a guy I know on the JQ, to the extent where he knows that the jews control almost every major facet of our society, but he absolutely refuses to believe that Christianity is a jewish plot, no matter the evidence given to him. I'm not even trying to turn him to atheism. God existing is far more likely that what (((scientists))) tell us about the universe's origin, but what I want Christians to understand is that the creator of the universe is most surely not a Semitic storm god.

>>1823 Christians' primary community is generally other Christians. It's a stupid belief to cling to, but it's also hard to give up such a significant portion of their life. I used to be a Baháʼí and got over it, but I genuinely miss those people to this day and it's not like I can find a local pagan chapter to replace them with. I have run into the same difficulty as you and I'm guessing that's why. Although; there should be no obligation to defend Christianity in an anonymous forum, but maybe that just reinforces their convictions.

>>1823 They simply require ego death, and then a period of rest to rebuild themselves. Most are simply lack the will or keep themselves too "busy" to do so and will resort to mental gymnastics to escape facing the truth, and will eventually fall apart just like a leftist from the constant cognitive dissonance when faced with contradictions, but not before betraying you for no good reason if you've let him in on anything, after all it's "the right thing to do". You've been warned.

>>1825 *Most simply lack the will

>>1824 >I used to be a Baháʼí and got over it Wew, how pozzed are is the average follower? I have read that they are a UN-affiliated NGO, a Zionist political sect based in Israel, that they want full egalitarianism and refuse to preach to jews even though their headquarters are centered in Israel. It definitely looks like the most pozzed form of Abrahamism yet, and I can only be glad that it is small. >I genuinely miss those people to this day and it's not like I can find a local pagan chapter to replace them with. That's very true, and possibly an underlooked factor here. With religion in general (to ignore the truth value of particular tradition(s) for a moment), a big part of the draw is the community and fellowship, and as you say, it is precisely this that we are lacking right now in real life. There are of course some other issues such as image issues due to New Agers and fake pagan Wicca degenerates, but the lack of community IRL lends to the idea that paganism is nothing but a nebulous and confused worldview with no substance to it. >>1825 Fundamentally normalfags typically do not want to jump down the rabbit hole and see where it goes. I am the type of person with almost limitless time on my hands, and no topics are too extreme or taboo for me to research and form positions on. Having followed this approach for at least four or five years now I have reached radically different conclusions than mainstream society gradually. I assume many of you here are of a similar nature, having come to the same positions, which are of course are positions not quickly-adopted. >not before betraying you for no good reason if you've let him in on anything, after all it's "the right thing to do". You've been warned. If I were involved in bad goy activities I wouldn't tell this type of person, don't worry.

>>1823 Apparently you have absolutely no understanding of faith.

>>1831 >It definitely looks like the most pozzed form of Abrahamism yet It is. Unity is the core of the religion. Its logo represents what it sees as nine valid world religions (including itself and its direct precursor, basically progressive departures from Islam; hilariously, even they don't recognize Mormonism). The entire history of the faith, even to this day, is essentially rolling over and letting the caliphate fuck its ass. Pacifism is heavily stressed. I used to love how friendly total Baháʼí strangers were to me. There was almost never any awkwardness when we held communal retreats, but the problem is just how candid they are with their beliefs. It is probably the single most egalitarian religion ever conceived. The people are far too kind for their own good.

>>1835 Blind faith is simply retarded, sorry anon. I can't respect one rejecting the truth when faced with overwhelming evidence regarding the nature of the Bible, the links with jews, and the history of early Christianity. It turns into delusion at that point. Only Abrahamics, because they are spiritually dead, put extreme faith on a pedestal. Traditional Aryan religions of all varieties have been reliant on direct, intuitive spiritual insight on the part of the individual (gnosis or jñāna). This trumps all "faith". Faith, within reason, is only best adopted as a means towards a greater end. Funnily, the real Jesus taught precisely this, but the (((Church))) and (((Paulines))) destroyed all of the texts and killed those seeking intuitive and direct knowledge of God (who was not a jew or volcano god) >>1838 >progressive departures from Islam What I find interesting in a more general sense is how each Abrahamic religion has gotten progressively more 'pozzed' with each new iteration. For example, Judaism, an ethnic religion, spawned universalist Christianity and then later universalist and more Judaic Islam. From Islam sprung the most pozzed version, which is of course Baháʼí. I'd hate to see what they'd give birth too. >I used to love how friendly total Baháʼí strangers were to me. There was almost never any awkwardness when we held communal retreats I wonder if this is some sort of thing that came from Islam. I've noticed they seem to be pretty friendly with their fellow Muslims, with a tight sense of community bonds. That's one thing pagans majorly need to cultivate in themselves.

Does Yahweh have power outside of his desert?

>>1847 > Does Yahweh have power outside of his desert? Do you ever wonder if the Middle East was always a dessert? Or if the kikes made it that way because they destroy everything of value?

>>1848 >>1848 Egypt and Mesopotamia were much greener in the past. Wherever jews go the environments are destroyed and a wasteland is left over when they are done, either that or filth and garbage

>>1850 The whole of Egypt was conveniently stripped bare by several swarms of locusts while the kikes just so happened to be staying over, leading to the desertification of everything but the Nile valley. They left soon after, and the desert literally followed them as they went. Nature literally dies around them, you can't make this shit up.

>>1847 It’s a good question. Emperor Julian’s understanding of Yahweh was that he was a minor local god of the jews, and this is the most reasonable explanation. But I don’t think Yahweh is literally bound to the desert. His power can stretch far beyond that. To call Yahweh *just* a minor deity is a dangerous understatement. Real minor deities and nature spirits are those like nymphs, fairies, river or mountain gods. I think Yahweh is better described as some sort of extremely egotistical and crazed demonic / asuric entity who has entered into a blood pact with the jewish people for world domination. Yahweh alone could be the one who has caused the gods not to show themselves as much anymore. It’s not unattested for the gods to be routed for a time by extremely powerful demons, necessitating an avatar to come and restore the Natural Order – see Bali, Ravana, etc. Ravana in particularly became so powerful due to a boon from Brahmā that he oppressed both the heavenly, hellish and earthly planes. This has all happened before

>>1847 Yahweh is bound to the perception and existence of jews. It's safe to say that the spiritual Israel differs that of the Levant geographical Israel, and the Israel is just any dwelling that jews have supreme prosperity. Thus America could be an Israel, and thus America is guarded by Yahweh. This could also be interpreted in the Aryan lense as Airyanem Vaejah and Ahuramazda and the difference between the historical abode of the Aryan people and the spiritual and political dwellings that Aryans have expanded to. Thus it's important to recognize Yahweh as strictly an Ethno-deity, whom protects only jews of jew-blood, and that's why Christianity is destined to fail because their deity literally hates them.

>>1858 >Nature literally dies around them, you can't make this shit up. Not in Europe exactly. Even during the medieval era Europe has been less reluctant to become lifeless despite the conversions, although that could be because of the fact that paganism has influenced Christianity heavily with the traditions and custom that were kept. I think a Slav friend once told me that Russian Eastern Orthodoxy was debately more pagan than Catholicism.

>>1867 >their deity literally hates them. Isaiah 40:17 – <Before him all the nations are as nothing; they are regarded by him as worthless and less than nothing. Seems harmless until you realize that ‘nations’ is the translation for הַגּוֹיִ֖ם, “hag·gō·w·yim”. Goyim. A foreign nation, a Gentile.

What's a Pagan take on stuff like Mount Athos? Despite being descended from the desert religion, the Orthodox church is pretty much the only organization that has been consistently involved in supernatural and spooky shit until current year. Moreover, as >>1871 mentioned, a lot of their inner lore comes directly from the old Pagan priesthoods, which shouldn't be surprising seeing how those priesthoods integrated into the clerical structure and monastic bodies early on. Of all the major religions, it's also the only one directly integrated with and supportive of the races and countries they reside in, where it's always been the main driver of racial cohesion and ethnic separation. Do they still follow the same kikeish Yahweh?

>>1873 There’s likely some supernatural occurences going on for sure at Mount Athos. This is not surprising given the fact that they are living in isolation from (((modernity))) and its traps, which allows them to achieve great spiritual growth, no doubt. With the practice of hesychasm and the experience of a sort of inner “uncreated light” within, we can find many parallels across the world, and talk of things such as the self/atman as “the light in the heart” in the many Upanishads, in the Yoga-sutra we are told to concencrate on ““the supreme, ever-blissful Light within.” Very similar things are described in Buddhism if I recall correctly too. They are engaging in advanced yogic techniques unknown to themselves, and likely do make *some* progress. Theoria or contemplation of God with the goal of direct insight comes directly from Neoplatonism as well, if not further back. They are still mixing up everything with jew-worship at the end of the day, though. When they have mystical experiences they’re likely transcending the demon Yahweh even though they view the experiences through a Christian lens. Perhaps we should look at what the Bhagavad Gita says on this matter: 7.21-23 <“Whoever has the wish to worship whatever god-form faithfully, it is I who truly grant him a faith that is immovable” <“Yoked in this faith, the devotee desires to propitiate that god for answering the prayers which were granted by Me only!” <“Fleeting are the results for those who are weak in understanding. God worshippers go to the gods; My devotees attain Me truly.” How much more lofty and self-assured than Yahweh!

>>1772 Any talk about the religiousness of Hitler is worthless with people who don't understand the status religion had in the German speaking countries in Europe during his lifetime. Modern Germany was both an original center of the Renaissance(with had a huge boner for Classical Antiquity), but also home to German Romanticism(which had a huge boner for the Medieval Period). It was both a center for the Enlightenment(Secularism) movement, but also had a strong Counter-Enlightenment movement(a Christian Revival in which even the protestant Prussian Kings gave money to restore catholic churches in their kingdom). German customs from Antiquity gave birth to the Divine Right of Kings(the King decides the religion of his Kingdom), but it was also divided between Catholicism(Pro Rome) and Protestantism(Pro Nationalism) thanks to the Reformation started by Martin Luther. Between 1700-1900, a German would be baptized at birth and go to church school on Sunday for his Confirmation. In the week a young German would go to school and later university, in which teachers and professors would praise Classical Antiquity. All while living in a strong secular country, in which the King/Emperor is also the supreme leader of the local church. All in all Germans were similar to the Japanese. They followed religion out of their reverence for tradition and because they recognized the importance of the religious rituals for the cohesion of society, but in their professional and private life it didn't play a high role that dominated their thinking because of their good education. Meanwhile on the political level religion was a question of power and bowed to the concept of Realpolitik. Hitler tried to unify all the German speaking territories in Europe into one single nation. To do that he had to show both respect to tradition(be it christian or pagan), while he also had to replace and destroy it where it was in the way of unity.

>>1871 >Not in Europe exactly. Even during the medieval era Europe has been less reluctant to become lifeless despite the conversions,... Several parts of Europe did suffer from desertification from the late medieval period to the late modern period. Those places were only re cultivated in the 19th century with the help of steam plows.

>>1900 Yeah, but it's not as bad as it was and is within the Middle East, which was said to be filled with vegetation and pretty green before Judaism and semitic cults took over. Although can you give me a couple examples of desertification before the industrial era?

>>1907 >Although can you give me a couple examples of desertification before the industrial era? Biggest one I know was the Lüneburger Heide in North Germany, which covered almost the entire principality of Lüneburg. They cut all the trees down, so the salt producers could boil saltwater. Back then salt was really expensive. Farming before the introduction of the three-field system then gave the ground the rest and it couldn't support the most common crops anymore. When nothing would grow anymore, the farmers would change to become goat and sheep herders, which basically prevented nature from regenerating because the goats and sheep would eat all the plant saplings that could do that. The result is a landscape like in the painting I have posted. When salt became a common good, the people in Lüneburg turned into the poorhouse of Germany and that only changed when the potato was introduced and steam plows were able to dig up deeper ground. In English these type of landscape are called Heathland and wherever you find them, they are usually the result of deforestation by humans.

>>1956 >Biggest one I know was the Lüneburger Heide in North Germany, which covered almost the entire principality of Lüneburg. They cut all the trees down, so the salt producers could boil saltwater. I was more-so expecting there to be some form of real life symbolism that Abrahamicism wherever it infects makes life turn lifeless. What you're talking about is more-so the issue wrong with agriculture and civilization as a whole.

>>1907 The Middle East has a different climate than Europe. I don't think Europe could ever be turned into a literal desert in the way the Middle East today is. It was greener there in the past but there were still deserts as well. Just look in the Bible, the jews were still shown as wandering around the desert in Exodus. If anything, the real cancer the jews spread is anything artificial and connected with (((civilization)))

Got caught up in a minor argument with a Christian online, and he kept saying "god is real bro" even though I never said I was an atheist or didn't believe in god...how can you even argue with these people?

>>2018 >how can you even argue with these people? You can't. They are insane due to the Abrahamic software that has been installed in their heads. Most of them operate off a very simplistic way of thinking too - either Christianity versus atheism, or Christianity versus Satanism depending on the topic. If one makes progress with a Christcuck, he'll inevitably sink back into feels and dismiss the point. I've seen this IRL a lot. The guy you argued with probably thinks 'if God exists, it's necessarily the God of the Bible', therefore repeating "god is real bro" is just saying that Christianity is true, because reasons. What were you arguing about?

>>2019 I was trying to explain that Christianity is not White or European as a rule and is in fact anti-White.

>>2020 Unfortunately this can be quite the hard redpill to swallow when they’re on the inside, I would imagine.

Has Christianity just been one giant cuck cult for control and humiliation? Be honest with me as well and provide direct evidence for my question.

Does the constant shitting on Babylon by abrahamites have any merit? Like, is there any legit archaeological evidence that Babylon was the degenerate late-stage clusterfuck the Torah says it was?

>>2025 >Has Christianity just been one giant cuck cult for control and humiliation? Be honest with me as well and provide direct evidence for my question. Yes, it has been. Christianity is a form of malware that the jews introduced into the Europe psyche, and we have been dealing with the negative side-effects for two millennia now. We just have to look at what Jesus himself preached to see what he wanted for people— >division and chaos (Matthew 10:34-36) >non-resistance to evil (Matthew 5:39) >cucking to the state (Matthew 22:17-21) >not planning for future events (Matthew 6:25-34) There are more that could be listed, but I think you get the basic point. If a society followed these guidelines it would go extinct, period. Being a doormat does not save the White race. Christcucks will cope and say that Christianity used to be “based” in the past, but this was because it was not true to itself, and those at the very top knew that this was an unworkable system. When Christianity got close to the seat of power it very rapidly morphed from being a seemingly meek sect of Judaism, into a tyrannical anti-European organization which would slaughter and persecute Europeans for centuries in the name of a jewish war god. Very quickly “resist not evil” became Constantine’s “in hoc signo vinces” (In this sign you shall conquer). Following this the Semiticization of the European mind progressed slowly and native pagan traditions that we had been practicing for millennia beforehand were gradually stamped out, our temples destroyed or converted into churches and ancient works burned, and statues smashed, and sacred groves chopped down. Christianity then gradually spread like a cancer from the Mediterranean and was astroturfed to other European kings, often through very convenient marital alliances or being converted by the wife of a king. Clovis I’s wife was a Christian woman Clotilde, Vladimir the Great of Kievan Rus converted to marry Anna, Æthelberht of Kent’s wife was Christian and he also converted by her. King Mirian III of George was converted by his Christian wife Nana. There are likely many, many more examples. Christianity was spread through women to kings, and was always thought of as a religion for women by pagans for this reason. In many of these cases, as soon as the king had become infected with the Semitic malware, he set about mass-converting everyone who lived under his reign. Vladimir the Great did just this, as is related in the Primary Chronicle: <Thereafter Vladimir sent heralds throughout the whole city to proclaim that if any inhabitants, rich or poor, did not betake himself to the river, he would risk the Prince's displeasure. https://archive.org/details/the-russian-primary-chronicle What we see here is top-down social engineering by elites working for a universalist, Semitic ideology and forcing it onto our people, just as the governments of today do when forcing trannies, homos and mudmen down our throats—the gods of (((modernity))) With just the conversion of key elites massive amounts of people could be converted to this Semitic religion and made to destroy their temples, sacred places and heritage.

>>2027 We do have a statement in Herodotus’ Histories which he talks about and seems to find degenerate: >The foulest Babylonian custom is that which compels every woman of the land to sit in the temple of Aphrodite and have intercourse with some stranger at least once in her life. Many women who are rich and proud and disdain to mingle with the rest, drive to the temple in covered carriages drawn by teams, and stand there with a great retinue of attendants. But most sit down in the sacred plot of Aphrodite, with crowns of cord on their heads; there is a great multitude of women coming and going; passages marked by line run every way through the crowd, by which the men pass and make their choice. Once a woman has taken her place there, she does not go away to her home before some stranger has cast money into her lap, and had intercourse with her outside the temple; but while he casts the money, he must say, "I invite you in the name of Mylitta". It does not matter what sum the money is; the woman will never refuse, for that would be a sin, the money being by this act made sacred. So she follows the first man who casts it and rejects no one. After their intercourse, having discharged her sacred duty to the goddess, she goes away to her home; and thereafter there is no bribe however great that will get her. So then the women that are fair and tall are soon free to depart, but the uncomely have long to wait because they cannot fulfil the law; for some of them remain for three years, or four. There is a custom like this in some parts of Cyprus. https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+1.199 This said, having read Herodotus’ work in the past, he’s fairly neutral about Babylon from what I remember except for in this passage. He spends most of the time describing its gates, the ziggurat, its huge walls and the like. If they were exceptionally degenerate he would have told us all about it, since Herodotus’ loves to report on rumors and crazy stuff of that nature. So my tentative verdict is grains of truth with copious amounts of jewish seething

What are the chances this mRNA vaccine they are pushing is actually the "FunVax" shit the pentagon was toying with in 2005 to "vaccine" people from the VMAT-2 gene? (The one responsible for "religious extremism"). Seems awfully convienient...

>>2019 >>how can you even argue with these people? You can't. They are insane due to the Abrahamic software that has been installed in their heads. Most of them operate off a very simplistic way of thinking too - either Christianity versus atheism, or Christianity versus Satanism depending on the topic. If one makes progress with a Christcuck, he'll inevitably sink back into feels and dismiss the point. I've seen this IRL a lot. The guy you argued with probably thinks 'if God exists, it's necessarily the God of the Bible', therefore repeating "god is real bro" is just saying that Christianity is true, because reasons. What were you arguing about? The closer you look at Christians and the proceed to cross examine their behaviour with brainwashed Marxists, the similarities between their behaviour becomes eerily uncanny. Emotions take total control and violence errupts towards non-believers.

>>2044 I've heard the same theory. It's certainly plausible. There was of course that one article from one of the AstroZeneca volunteers who said that "they killed God, I can't feel him anymore" after getting the vaccine. It's really impossible to know what the fuck this experimental jewish-made gene therapy will do to a person. Then again, I also have doubts about these claims. I think it's more the case of the kikes basically lobomotizing a person rather than turning off some gene that makes them stop believing in God. That sounds slightly reductionistic to me, but what do I know.

>>2019 Christianity was was subsumed by globohomo as the main religion generations ago. If you want to use the software analogy, I think its disingenuous to consider Christianity as the main program. In general, I view religion mostly as a reflection of culture, not a driver of it.

>>2540 Christianity definitely isn't the main issue nowadays at all. Like you said, leftism / globohomo overtook it in the late 19th century and early 20th century. It had become somewhat of a hindrance for the jews, therefore wherever they could they sought to eradicate it, like in the USSR. > I view religion mostly as a reflection of culture, not a driver of it. It can absolutely drive culture. Just look at the culture changes that Christianity has brought to Europe over time.

>>2550 Anything in particular you have in mind? I view the culture change more as a result of a collapsing Roman empire and the subsequent de and re-urbanization

>>2554 What you mention about the collapse of the Roman Empire's obviously a factor in some changes, but the most obvious thing here is the complete change in religion. Religion and culture mutually interact and shape one another, especially in cases of where we are talking about a new religion coming in and being imposed on a culture. With the pre-Abrahamic traditions of our ancestors there was a much tighter symbiosis between religion, culture and everyday life, but this was ruptured with Christianity, which then began to reshape aspects of native European cultures, and more slowly, the way that Europeans thought and acted.

>>2557 I'm not denying that religion creates a feedback loop to reinforce culture, but again I find it downstream of culture, which is downstream of genetics. People will act differently if they are in a dense city, or a roving tribe, or in times of war and peace. How the religion manifests or shifts is a reflection of this state of being, as opposed to the state being a reflection of the religion. I'll ask again if you have any particular examples of religion driving culture. I'm struggling to make logical connections for your argument that I find satisfying.

>>2639 How is the coming of Christianity to pagan Europe not an example of religion driving changes in culture? I definitely wouldn't say that religion is the only or even the driving force (i.e. most of the time it is downstream of culture), but it certainly can drive it in greater or lesser ways depending on circumstances. A better example might be the coming of Islam to Arabia. Their culture majorly changed due to this religion, particularly in the doing away of the practice of making statues of gods, practices like divination, frequent female infanticide, certain marriage practices like sororal polygyny, etc.

I've been reading pic related related, and it is truly amazing what goes on in the Christcuck's mind. First there is reference to God as the ultimate brute fact - fair enough - as well as a person (being with intentions, thoughts, etc) that is utterly simply, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. But then in the author's desire to make moral truly 'objective' he goes and claims that God is not the author of all morality, and that it would be literally impossible for God to command something else than what is defined as "good". It seems to me that he is setting something higher than the "ultimate brute fact". God is best seen as the ultimate expression of "might is right" Also amusing is the chapter on evil, where he discusses "natural evils" like suffering brought about by nature, and how horrible this. I've noticed Christians constantly cry about Nature and how horrible it is. Nietzsche is absolutely right here in saying that they just hate and despise life. If something like God exists, and he is the author of the Laws of Nature, what reproach do I have? They are already perfect

>>4100 For anyone who wants to go real deep into what I said here, check out: >'On Being a Pagan' by Alain de Benoist >'The Antichrist' by Friedrich Nietzsche >'The Twilight of the Idols' by Friedrich Nietzsche >'Beyond Good and Evil' by Friedrich Nietzsche https://archive.org/details/OnBeingAPagan https://www.gutenberg.org/files/19322/19322-h/19322-h.htm

The story of Genesis is literally anti-Soma. The fruit of the tree was not an apple, it was Soma. Yahweh was afraid of Manu consuming the Soma and achieving Nirvana, thus becoming Gods themselves. Now you see the true purpose of Abrahamism. It's literally a jewish Supremacy movement.

>>4113 This has to be some sort of synchronicity. Literally less than five minutes ago I finished reading the Mithra Yasht, and then the first thread I go and click on has a pic of Mithras. Wild. Reading it, it is clear why Christianity had to win out over it in the eyes of our enemies. >The fruit of the tree was not an apple, it was Soma. Yahweh was afraid of Manu consuming the Soma and achieving Nirvana, thus becoming Gods themselves. Exactly. Genesis 3:22 says it all. Yahweh became utterly terrified when Adam and Eve had consumed the 'fruit' and achieved gnosis. That part of Genesis was the original 'the goyim know' moment

>>1395 The Israelites were White. The jews and the masons have corrupted the texts and hid the truth. It is obvious Whites are the chosen race.

>>4160 There is no need to LARP as a jew, anon. True Aryan religions do not compromise our position. The Bible is an inferior text to the compositions and philosophical works of the Aryan people.

>>4163 Not larping as a jew. The Israelites were White. The so called "jews" are the synagogue of Satan

>>4171 You claim to not be LARPing as a jew, but then you immediately go onto reference the “synagogue of Satan” from Revelation which mentions “those who say that they are jews and are not”—implying that you are a jew and that real there are real non-Satanic synagogues (i.e. yours). You are a jew LARPer. You reject Aryan spirituality for a Semitic volcano demon. You claim to be descended from a pack of filthy hook-nosed merchants. You are a traitor to your Volk in more senses than one, and an enemy of Truth

>>4174 No the fact is the Israelites are White and the bible was corrupted by jews and masons. The word "jew" came much later. The hook nosed merchants are the children of satan

>>4176 How much are you paid to be a troll?

>>4177 What is your religion then?

>>4176 I’m convinced most Christian posters are bots at this point, but just in case not— The English word ‘jew’ comes directly from Latin ‘iūdaeus’ meaning “jewish, of or pertaining to the jewish people” and “Judaean, jew”. This in turn comes from Greek ‘Ἰουδαῖος’, meaning “Judean or jew”. This comes straight from Hebrew meaning the same thing. The inhabitants of Judea were never White. There is no distinction between Judeans and jews. Genetics even support the fact that jews are Semites. White people do not speak Semitic languages. Also the Khazar theory is retarded if you’re going to appeal to that next.

>>4278 >>4227 Which telegram dipshit are you? I know who made that meme, I know whos in the right side of it too.

>>4280 It was from a channel called hyperborrea, I don't have telegram anymore.

>>2804 >Christians constantly cry about Nature and how horrible it is Never happened, never will happen.

>>4313 You clearly have never read books like the one anon attached or listened to any debates by Christian scholars on the problem of evil.

>>4177 See you are so quick to diss my Christian Identity religion, but you won't state your own. Freemasons and jews are united in their religion, they worship Lucifer.. White nationalists are stuck bickering with each other over religion. It's stupid and harmful. We need to accept that we have different religions and just unite under White nationalism. We have the same enemies and it shouldn't be each other. Think of the Christian/Pagan wars and let's not repeat them.

>>4323 >White nationalists are stuck bickering with each other over religion. It's stupid and harmful It's the exact opposite of harmful. It's a struggle for Truth and the soul of the White race. Will we be enslaved by spiritual semitism for another two millennia and go extinct, or will we free ourselves from our chains and re-embrace the Truth? This is the question, a vital question. The Christian worldview and the Aryan worldview are diametrically opposed in every way. They are polar opposites. And then you have the gall to refer to Christian / Pagan wars - which were waged by Christians are against European Whites. Millions of Whites were slaughtered by (((Christians))). Europe is stained by the blood of pagans, spilled by the servants of jewry. >destroys the Roman Empire >forcibly converts millions >destroys ancient texts >destroys sacred groves, statues and temples >launches crusades against their own people >allows pagans to be sold into slavery to jews and Muslims >burn women at the stake for practicing traditional herbal healing >blasphemes the gods of Europe as 'demons' <CAN'T WE JUST GET ALONG!!!!!!

>>4331 And still you won't state your religion, coward. You're probably a Varg tard who shits in a wooden toilet. Kys, faggot

>>4345 >religion You're so stuck on this term. This is a sign of being bluepilled. Our ancestors did not even have a term for 'religion'. There was such a tight conceptual link between daily life and so-called religion that they were seen as one and the same. You look to dusty jewish tomes, I resort to the oldest means of direct intuitive insight - meditation. The answers will flow to you. Others have reported the same thing on this very board >>2846. You can't commune with a dusty book written by jews. Go and commune with the spirits of the trees, the spirits of your ancestors and the myriads of living beings around us that deluded modern people deny exist. Even God is real, but he is certainly not the God of the Bible. He is far grander and more sublime than that imposter.

>>4350 Perhaps fren, I hate to argue with a White brother honestly, I wish we could just put this debate beside us and fight for our people

>>4356 This may be controversial to some, but the biggest problem is brainwashed and normalfag Christians who are most under the influence of slave morality and the pernicious aspects. I would not reject someone merely for being Christian, but only if their Christianity was having a truly negative influence or was getting in the way of pro-White objectives.

>>4357 > the biggest problem is brainwashed and normalfag Christians who are most under the influence of slave morality and the pernicious aspects They are a huge issue, especially when they almost worship jews as though they are gods. This is something we can agree on.

>>4358 Yeah, that's a major issue. I've witnessed it myself, as doubtlessly you have and many others. In general I stick with what Pierce said, because I think he takes a good position on the matter: https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/09/wlp86-william-pierce-on-christianity/ What I will say though is that while it's possible to get Christians to some extent to be redpilled on jews (I'd argue that unfortunately it might be inherently too superficial since one could argue that the jews just need to 'convert' or something) - I've redpilled a handful of Christians on jews myself - far too many of them seem to be bluepilled on race, and it is highly difficult to deprogram them. I believe that part of this has to do with verses from Paul and from the fact that the Bible under mainstream interpretations attests to descent from Adam and Eve alone. Unless one is to adopt a Christian Identity view they will fall into these pitfalls over and over. And even then Christian Identity I feel is false, but it is preferable over the alternatives.

>>4360 wym

>>4365 It's an asshurt Christcucks who thinks not being spiritually jewish is "fedora".

>>4323 >See you are so quick to diss my Christian Identity religion, but you won't state your own. Why do I need to state my beliefs and practices? All I asked how much you were paid by the JDF to go on boards just to make dumb posts. "Christian identify" is foolish and the reason why the West is in the state it is today. >Freemasons and jews are united in their religion, they worship Lucifer Freemasons are jews and they are united to worship Yahweh. This Lucifer blame is nothing more, but excuse my cuckchan lingo, a gigantic cope to dismiss the fact that Abrahamics worship an Asura. jews, Christians, Muslims, and Satanists are different sects of each other, but in the end are all spiritually Judaic. Your faith has always been in the evil that is Yahweh, but think it isn't so, because you're taught about purity and good manners. >White nationalists are stuck bickering with each other over religion How is this a bad thing? It most certainly has more purpose than Christcucks fighting over which scripture is durr "true faith" and dismissing what is uptmost important for egilitarian perspectives that originate from the their bibles, which is one of the reasons why the NatSoc and Mussolini failed to change their nations for the better.

>>4367 >This Lucifer blame is nothing more, but excuse my cuckchan lingo, a gigantic cope to dismiss the fact that Abrahamics worship an Asura. It really is ironic. They love to blaspheme the gods of Europeans as demons and cry about Lucifer or Satan constantly, but in truth, as you say Yahweh is the closest thing to Satan on this Earth. The Asura hypothesis is the best one that I've read and I agree with it. Even great pagan philosophers like Emperor Julian realized that Yahweh was far from being the 'Creator of the Universe', but rather a some sort of vengeful and arrogant desert spirit. The sooner Christians realize this the better. They need to read the Bhagavad Gita or something comparable. The wisdom of a single chapter of that is higher than anything found in the Bible. Ultimately Christians need to realize that every attribute of Yahweh was found discussed in places like the Narayana Upanishad, Shvetashvatara Upanishad and in Zoroastrian Yashts and in the Avesta millennia before the jews stole everything and claimed that their volcano demon was the true God. >>4365 Don't respond to butthurt Christcucks. It's just impotent rage.

Wasn't sure where to put this but here is a book review which may interest some: >>4369

>>4313 The Hebrew and Christian bible has literal texts about how Humanity must have dominion over nature and, it is was created for man. Abrahamicism is the most anti-nature faith to exist. >Genesis 1:26 >Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” >Genesis 1:28 >God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” Can you explain to me what isn't anti-nature about these scriptures? >>4368 >The Asura hypothesis is the best one that I've read and I agree with it. Even great pagan philosophers like Emperor Julian realized that Yahweh was far from being the 'Creator of the Universe', but rather a some sort of vengeful and arrogant desert spirit. I would argue that it isn't a hypothesis, but a truth itself if you consider the fact that the Abrahamists stole truths from Aryan faiths and injected into their own for their Asura god. Yahweh hates nature just like any Asura would, which is why jews and Christians despised paganism so much, because the Aryans knew that there is an universal order and hierarchy that is everyone must pertain by to stay on the path of the ultimate truth, along with their rejection to dominate nature, because they only wanted harmony with it.

>>4376 Are us aryans not the masters of the lower beings? One can rule over something without being against it.

>>4376 That's true, to say that it is merely a hypothesis may be understating things. Yahweh and his cultists have been carrying out a great act of identity theft for the last several millennia. After doing so, the jews - knowingly or not - entered into a pact with this entity for worldly power and lordship over the Earth in turn for exclusive worship. A literal Faustian bargain. The jews might have been aware the whole time, but millions upon millions have been swindled into worshiping an Asura LARPing as Ahura Mazda or Nārāyaṇa, whatever name one wants to use. >Can you explain to me what isn't anti-nature about these scriptures? These could be given a less-damaging interpretation, I think. Islam has a similar doctrine, and from a Traditionalist author Seyyed Hossein Nasr I read how the modernist anthropocentrism is allegedly different from the Islamic idea of the viceregency of man on Earth. Even still, it is clear that the modern anthropocentric idea is a direct product of Abrahamism. Abrahamism is the father of nihilism. As has been explained before, Abrahamism puts the center of gravity of all meaning and value away from Earth, into some afterlife. One will never return to Earth after death. They will be judged and then go for eternity to either Hell or Heaven. The Earth doesn't matter to the Abrahamist. In Islam it is said: <Were this world worth a wing of a mosquito in the sight of Allah, He would not have given the disbeliever a drink of water thereof. https://hadeethenc.com/en/browse/hadith/3695 This clearly says that the world is worth less than the wing of a bloodsucking insect in the eyes of Allah. Christianity similarly advises to store up treasures in heaven rather than on Earth (Matthew 6:19-21) and that before Yahweh, all of the nations (goyim!) are but dust before him (Isaiah 40:15). Abrahamism itself is a dangerous anti-Nature force. The ancient world was seen by our ancestors as suffused with and animated by personality and consciousness, human and non-human. Christians first demonized our gods, and then claimed they did not even exist, and then restricted it only to God and angels, and Satan. Besides that the world was just dead, passive matter. Objects for the Christian to exploit and dominate as he wished because he was given the right by God to subdue everything in existence. Later extreme hyper-Abrahamists even claimed God didn't exist, nor anything else 'supernatural'. The Abrahamic agenda had reached its pinnacle. Man was God, everything was his to exploit and destroy, and look where we are now.

>>4378 >Are us aryans not the masters of the lower beings? Do you think it's a good idea for Aryans to stick animals and other creatures created by Earth, in cages for exploitation, entertainment, and mass slaughter? Aryans are masters of lower beings, but the relationship between master and slave with nature should be teacher and student or a friendship, which is what Aristole taught and explained. An man who domesticates a dog shouldn't done for any pleasure or luxury, but to help each other in any way they can. What Yahweh is describing is that we rule over nature for mankind's sake and that this planet exist for us to rule only.

>>4378 According to the traditional worldview of our people, there is both a Great Chain of Being, and there is a complex set of relationships between different levels in a great harmony. For example, when our ancestors sacrificed an animal for the gods, they were doing it both to honor the god who they correctly saw as greater and more powerful than themselves, and also to get the god's favor. The god too apparently benefited from the sacrifice as well. It was similar to hospitality arrangements. The god was believed to come down, to be entertained with praise, poetry, song and to consume the subtle energetics of the sacrifice. In return the god would help out the worshipers. This is why we see the classic 'do ut des' phrase so much in discussions of relationships with the gods. It is in many ways a mutually beneficial quid pro quo arrangement. The gods know they are higher than humans but they are also very controlled in their conduct most of the time. If they are angered they might retaliate or punish the wrongdoers, but in general they do not go around spreading chaos just because they are in some senses 'masters' compared to humans. Now with certain evil entities, it's clear that they are directly opposed to the Natural Order and wish to mix everything up. Who knows why they do this. Many of them are likely psychopathic and get pleasure from fucking with people and destroying things. The Abrahamic idea abolishes almost all hierarchy and complex interrelations of beings and entities. There's only one Big jew you have to obey and worship, the rest are evil and should be ignored, they say. None of this should be confused with any sort of 'kumbayah' attitude either. Those who do evil should be killed and destroyed. Pacifism is a meme. Struggle does exist, but it is not the only force.

>>4382 >Do you think it's a good idea for Aryans to stick animals and other creatures created by Earth You mean those of non-European origin, not just animals?

>>4384 Exploiting non-Whites has proven to be more trouble than it is worth, especially if they are brought into White territories. There's nothing about non-White slavery that is unnatural, but those who engage in it pave the path towards miscegenation and large populations of non-Whites living within our nations. Regarding mass slaughter, in general its just not worth the effort. They need to leave our countries, and yes it will be done by force if they refuse. jews are the only ones that 100% need to die. Other peoples are not inherently threats to our existence so long as their populations are not growing at extreme rates and are trying to migrate into our lands. Some form of depopulation will likely need to be done within the next century for reasons similar to the ones described by Pentti Linkola. Either we push people into the water, or the lifeboat will sink.

>>4384 We don't need non-Whites in our nations, and I only want to exterminate the ones who are in our lands and destroying our planet's soil that includes Whites as well. If you're talking about colonization, then I couldn't give shit as long as no one mix races and the lower beings are kept in check to not destroy environments and trying to fight against Aryans.

Are there any aspects of Christianity you respect at all, or any historic Christian rulers whom you admire? I can understand wanting a more 'authentic' spirituality to follow, but it seems strange to simply discard a religion that's been part of our history for so long, and that's so integral to so many Aryan national identities. Besides, it seems like we're basically admitting that the kikes are right when they talk about 'real Christianity' being pro-globohomo.

>>4396 I spent more time than I should have trying to think of a satisfactory answer to this, but really found myself drawing a blank for the most part. It probably sounds a bit dishonest, but I am struggling to find any aspects that I really respect. Not that I view it all with disdain and ridicule, but not much is standing out. If I had to choose something it might be the mystics or monks who have lived throughout time. I always find them interesting, and with the monks in particular asceticism can be respectable. I don’t like the cenobitic ones as much as the eremitic monks though. Saint Anthony the Great is a Christian I’ve always liked. He spent his life living in the desert and did basically nothing but pray and meditate, and battled all sorts of demonic entities. >I can understand wanting a more 'authentic' spirituality to follow, but it seems strange to simply discard a religion that's been part of our history for so long, and that's so integral to so many Aryan national identities. I don’t think the duration of time matters very much, honestly, especially if one recognizes the pernicious nature of much of what happened. Maybe Jesus himself was some man who was struggling against the elite jews in his homeland—and maybe he was even half Aryan if Celsus and the Talmud (lol) can be believed, but it’s clear that a gang of jews with sinister designs hijacked his teachings and injected them into the European consciousness, likely corrupting them in the process. The influence wasn’t bad immediately, and we can see many beautiful pieces of architecture, art and music that have came out of it, but over time there has been a steady and noticeable degeneration linked in many ways with Abrahamic ideas. >Besides, it seems like we're basically admitting that the kikes are right when they talk about 'real Christianity' being pro-globohomo. This is just the interpretation I get from reading the texts. I hardly need to mention the familiar verses in question from the mouth of Jesus himself allegedly. Funnily enough just a few hours ago I read something from Confucian scholars in Japan back in the day claiming that Christianity was a basically a tool of globohomo. See pic

>>4396 >expecting anything close to a straight answer from the few active individuals crafting this thread

>>4360 How does it feel being the exact target of a years old meme? >>4396 Aryan = noble, there is nothing noble about Christianity, because it is an anti-heroic religion. >for so long lol >we're basically admitting that the kikes are right Oh it's just a concern troll.

>>4403 The real LARP is believing a jewish carpenter nailed to an execution device is somehow your lord and savior, buddy. I pray that you realize that you have been deceived by a pretender. Yahweh is not God

If your only goal here is to pretend to be retarded. I just want you to know that pretending to be a retarded troll still makes you retarded.

>>4382 Exploitation of animals isnt implied at all. The quote simply states that animals are to be ruled over.

>>4409 The Aryans did not have the same view of dominion especially not over nature, because they venerated and protected their environments for it had spiritual and close connections to their origin. The word "rule" in the original Hebrew bible is not the same as you think it is dude.

>>4409 >>4410 >The word "rule" in the original Hebrew bible is not the same as you think it is dude. I was expressing some doubt over this point, but it appears that anon is correct concerning what the jews really meant by "rule". Here is what one Bible website says for the Hebrew in Genesis 1:26: <to rule <וְיִרְדּוּ֩ (wə·yir·dū) <Strong's 7287: To tread down, subjugate, to crumble off https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-26.htm#lexicon Other translations given include 'have dominion', 'subdue', 'dominate' and 'prevail over / against'. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_7287.htm And even more telling is what is said in Genesis 1:28. The verb used is וְכִבְשֻׁ֑הָ (wə·ḵiḇ·šu·hā) - meaning "To subdue, bring into bondage" https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-28.htm#lexicon It is highly telling that alternate translations given for other verses include 'trample', 'subdue', 'assault', 'bring into bondage'. Yahweh is literally telling the jews here to enslave and subjugate the entire Earth. And to realize that the jews see the goyim as animals only deepens the meaning of this verse. This is a great redpill for me.

>>4398 My biggest issue with abandoning Christianity is that it's hard for me to see modern paganism as anything but a recent invention, even if it draws on much older sources. Religion changed and evolved over time, even before Christianity. Even afterwards, I don't think there was as much change as you might think. In some Catholic countries, you get pagan gods being rebranded as saints, and of course pagan holidays like Yuletide and Easter being retold in a Christian context. Most importantly, the people did not change, they maintained direct continuity with their own ancestors even after Christianization. You might also notice that Christianity isn't monolithic, there are enormous differences in practice and observation between European and Near Eastern Christians, for example, and there are plenty of culturally derived variations even within those categories. To me, European Christianity represents a direct continuation of older European religions. It may be that Christianity started off as foreign, but through syncretism has become indistinguishable from other European religions. This isn't a unique phenomenon either, the Romans adopted gods and cults from many people they conquered, including certain eastern religions. I can see the utility in trying to reconstruct pre Christian Aryan religions, but they would still be no more than reconstructions. They don't have the unbroken continuity that Christianity has. My fear is that by giving up on Christianity, we're essentially giving it to the kikes. Besides, most Whites today still follow some form of Christianity, it seems like we'd be alienating plenty of people who would otherwise side with us. >>4398 >Funnily enough I read something from Confucian scholars in Japan claiming that Christianity was a tool of globohomo The passage is interesting, but I would like to see something from an Aryan perspective. Plenty of Asiatic cultures were affected in similar ways during the colonial period. I know a lot of Blackshirts consider Japs to be 'honorary Aryans', but I don't see them as better or worse off than any other gooks. In any case, I'm don't know if we should denounce everything and everyone from the colonial period as 'agents of globohomo'.

>>4424 > Religion changed and evolved over time, even before Christianity. This is such a stupid thing to say. Religions did not evolve, they declined and began to stray from the truth, when were widely used for political purposes and negating the spirit and duty of man. >I don't think there was as much change as you might think Emphasis on think, because there has been much changed especially in the way they worship and the practices that pagans had lost, because Abrahamists see anything that did not agree with Yahweh is demonic. >n some Catholic countries, you get pagan gods being rebranded as saints What the fuck are you talking about? Pagan Gods were not saints at all, they were denounced as demonic and evil spirits. Saints were men whose mind, spirit and soul was held on and originated by Yahweh. Odin, Zeus, and Jupiter were never viewed as saints, especially not during the medieval period where you would be viewed as a heathen for acknowledging. >and of course pagan holidays like Yuletide and Easter being retold in a Christian context They were not retold they were completely changed in favor of Christianity. The ancestor veneration, the ceremonial fires, etc were all outlawed in favor of something more Abrahamic. >Most importantly, the people did not change, they maintained direct continuity with their own ancestors even after Christianization. And this is a fucking lie and makes no sense. Stop with this faggy apologism for christcuckery. Christianity changed the European mentality, spirit, and perspective of the world. To say that there wasn't any changes would mean you would have to explain all the shitty scriptures, and why christcucks went around murdering native Europeans for their churches' influence and why Whites grew the idea that they were Semites and that Israel is a holy place of their origin, which is one of the reasons why they fought for Jerusalem against the mudslimes. There was no synthesis you imbecile, the christcucks kept and tolerated traditions and customs to the extent that they were harmless against and did not influence the populace away from the church. A synthesis would imply that they were accepting of pagan in spirit and faith and that the bible is Aryan in ways, in which it clearly was not. We don't need christcucks, get over it.

>>4424 Excuse me if I get into schizo territory here, but for some of the reasons you mention, I feel like I have to. I have been somewhat critical of reconstructionism in the past myself - not because we shouldn't attempt to recover the traditions of our ancestors or anything like that, but because what we can reconstruct from the surviving texts is necessarily the bare externals. A religion is not just its rituals. The rituals and culture flowing from that tradition are the outer walls that surround the heart within (if I can use such a mixed metaphor). In many cases in Europe, especially in traditions such as the Celtic, the oral traditions of the priestly caste have been almost completely lost. Same with the Germanic traditions - we know much more here and the situation is better here, but we can hardly know what the priestly figures of this culture and tradition past down orally that was lost due to Christianization. The situation is obviously not entirely grave, however, as Asatru is indeed gaining followers slowly, as is Rodnovery in Russia and Romuva in Lithuania, to mention a few. To ape the externals is nice, but if it is not genuinely spiritual it is not going to be a true contender with Christianity or any other religion. This might be a bit discouraging to some pagans in how immense I make the requirements (as I see them) for a genuine rebirth to happen - but what it's going to take is another Buddha, another Christ-figure, another Muhammad-figure. I don't mean this in the sense of the teachings, but in the sense that we will see an individual reach a level of attainment that allows them to genuinely some sort of suprarational religious / spiritual truth. It's obvious to me that the religions of our European ancestors originally had a transcendent source conveyed to others through shamanic / priestly practices, and through various ascetics and sages. It is the appearance of such a figure and the dedication that it would inspire that would defibrillate the pagan movement in the West. It would be different than some things in the past, I imagine, and would not necessarily do away with the ideas of the past - but it would reaffirm them and bring them back into the minds of the people. Maybe I am totally misguided here, but this is the most realistic option in mind.

>>4424 >Even afterwards, I don't think there was as much change as you might think. In some Catholic countries, you get pagan gods being rebranded as saints, and of course pagan holidays like Yuletide and Easter being retold in a Christian context. Most importantly, the people did not change, they maintained direct continuity with their own ancestors even after Christianization. This was by design. We can see in a letter from Pope Gregory to abbots in England advising them to precede like this in order to Christianize the population. See pic The last lines are most telling. The pope talks about "cutting off their rude natures", and then advises a gradual change over to Christian habits - which as has been argued are detrimental in large part to the survival of the European races. One might argue that this is proof that the Pope and his buddies were good guys for being so gradual, but it should not be ignored here that the gods of the English here are slandered as "devils", and that all throughout Europe temples were destroyed, and sacred groves of trees burnt to the ground, along with art and statues glorifying their gods (given the loaded term "idols"). >My fear is that by giving up on Christianity, we're essentially giving it to the kikes. Besides, most Whites today still follow some form of Christianity, it seems like we'd be alienating plenty of people who would otherwise side with us. I have Dr. Pierce's position - if you're against racemixing and jews, it's most likely possible in some extent to work with Christians. I am very harsh against Christians online sometimes, but in real life I would be more tactical, while not compromising the utmost importance of the survival of our people either - I am not afraid to say that the Bible leads to you being a doormat to Christians - I have told them this before and only ever get smiles or chuckles, and no counterarguments. They just ignore those verses.

>>4396 Are there any aspects of Christianity you respect at all, or any historic Christian rulers whom you admire? No, with only Vlad the Impaler being an exception, and that's because he wasn't really Christian as much as he was just an ardent defender of his people. >I can understand wanting a more 'authentic' spirituality to follow, but it seems strange to simply discard a religion that's been part of our history for so long, and that's so integral to so many Aryan national identities. If ones national identity is tied up with christianity, that Identiity is not aryan, and most European nations are more than half non-christian at this point. >Besides, it seems like we're basically admitting that the kikes are right when they talk about 'real Christianity' being pro-globohomo. They have always been right about this, they use this to their advantage, it was never hard to get christains to cuck for jews.

>You are a king, then!” said Governor Pilate. King Jesus answered with abandonment, “You say that I am a king. Instead, in fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” >“What is truth?” retorted Pilate. Jesus was BTFO right here. He didn't even answer. The Aryan pilpuled the jew. Jesus sat in silence.

How would Christianity do it better this time? All they did was to prohibit what they didn't like (alcohol, drugs, having a foreskin, heavy metal) without addressing the root of the problems they faced. Christians even protected the root in some cases. This only created and strengthened the opposition to Christianity. I don't see anything in Christianity that guarantees a victory for Christians or anyone else. Sorry for the normie meme.

>>1596 Where can I get the pdf of "National Socialism And The Roman Catholic Church" by Nathaniel Micklem? It's not on libgen, and the IRC channels aren't much better. t. Adûnâi

>>4431 >we will see an individual reach a level of attainment that allows them to genuinely some sort of suprarational religious / spiritual truth. Wasn't Hitler such a figure? His kill count of the racial enemies is in the tens of millions. That's a fitting and inspirational blood sacrifice to any European whose blood is boiling from hate. Or do you mean some tree-hugging nonsense? No rebirth is possible without rivers of blood and fire. The foundation of the new temple must be built on the bones of the enemies of Europa.

>>4613 Hitler was essentially such a figure, but I was really referring to the perfection of the his type. Like Savitri Devi said, Hitler was one of the greatest Aryans our race has ever seen, and indeed had a mixture of lightning and sun qualities, but his one flaw is that they were not totally balanced. Too much sun, not enough lightning. The perfect Hitler, or Kalki, or whatever you want to kill him, will be exactly as you said. Ruthless, victorious, charismatic, inspiring, etc. This is why Hitler said to fight for the Coming Man.

>>4611 The religion was doomed from the start for many, many reasons. One would have to reinterpret Christianity so wildly differently that it would hardly be Christianity anymore in order to alleviate the problems that many of us see within the religion. The main attempt at this has been Christian Identity. The problem with Christian Identity is that it's just unfortunately not true.

>>4613 We're going to be hugging trees and grinding our enemies into fertilizer for said trees.

The final BTFO of Abrahamism is imminent. Prepare yourselves. I do not know when but I’m writing a document on the Abrahamic phenomenon, Christianity especially. Currently at some 1,200 words. Not sure how long it will be, less than 50 pages. Hopefully it will be helpful in waking one up the Abrahamic menace outside of the obvious fact that it came from kikes. It goes much deeper.

>>4741 Yawn

>>4741 I would rather have something concrete to replace it than just more criticism.

>>4742 >(1) post by this ID within two minutes Terrified, aren’t you?

>>4744 I was mainly thinking of expanding this >>4100 and adding a few things that I failed to address the first time. You’re right that pure critique with no positive alternatives being offered is inherently limited though. Theoretically I could write it and put forward my own stuff, but I feel like it would limit the appeal of it to an extent. The main goal right now is definitively showing that Abrahamism is pervasive and incompatible with White Nationalism, written in a somewhat easily digestible style and length. I’m really not that that far in yet so I don’t know how successful this strategy will be, but if it fails I’d of necessity probably have to start putting my own stuff in there. The question is whether anyone cares about my eclectic brand of paganism.

Isn't Yahweh just satan?

>>4752 Isn't Satan an Abrahamic figure? Maybe you are thinking of an ashura or similar entity.

>>4755 Satan is an Abrahamic figure, but I'm asking because a-lot of jews are Satanists and Yahweh has been attacked as a malevolent being by gnostics. It makes me think that Satan this whole time was just Yahweh meaning that goys technically have been tricked into worshipping a demon for centuries. Holy fuck I'm never phone-posting on here ever again. Too many mistakes I would not typically make on a post.

>>4763 >jews worship Satan >Christians worship Yahweh >Yahweh = Satan <Christians worship Satan Interesting theory you've got here.

>>4764 Is this sarcasm?

>>1446 > Yahweh does not love Aryans, he loves oppressed low-IQ mud people Not in the Old Testament tho. The OT is extremely ambiguous as to who wrote it but one thing for sure, it's manly.

>>4765 No, I just think that there are interesting implications to the idea that the Christian 'god' is in fact the same entity as the being they identify as the ultimate evil.

>>4752 >Isn't Yahweh just satan? I would not use the term Satan personally, but it’s highly likely that Yahweh could be some sort of asura, daeva or even some more powerful entity such as Angra Mainyu. These are loosely equivalent to “demons” and Angra Mainyu does sort of have the role of what Satan is in the later Abrahamic traditions. >>4763 >It makes me think that Satan this whole time was just Yahweh meaning that goys technically have been tricked into worshipping a demon for centuries. This is exactly what I think has happened. >>4764 It is hard for them to grasp, but it’s most likely true. Their mistake is the identification of God with the God of the OT. >>4772 Only problem is that if you’re not a kike you’re basically cattle in the OT.

>>4778 >>4776 I remember there being a blogpost that talked about how the devil's greatest trick was convincing the masses he was God, as well as its origin, but unfortunately I seemed to have lost the link...

>>4763 You might be on to something here. The Hebrew bible talks a lot about how Yahweh did some pretty messed up things such as the time he created division amongst families and other kins, told mid-wives Hebrews that they should kill their sons and allow let their daughters to live so the Hebrew race could multiple, how he would punish children and men by death for mocking him, how rewarded the fool and transgressors, etc. What kind of peaceful and benevolent God who loves the people he birth tells his own creations/blood to do such things? >>4772 >Tho. Nice nigger speak. >Not in the Old Testament tho. The Old Testament literally talks about killing goys and dominating nature. That's not Aryan, especially when the Aryans have criticized and fought numerous wars against the jews for their ways and views, and yes I'm referring "Christians" as jews as well. >it's manly It's the opposite of manly, it's delusional. One of the reasons why the Christianity grew was because of women and this was the case for the Roman, Greeks, and Norse who's women converted to Christianity do its appeasement to them. The Old Testament is nothing but a bunch of slave moralities, which is why Christian women are more religious than the men.

>>4778 I used the term Satan to give you guys an understanding of what I'm trying to convey. I know I could just of said Ashura, but I don't think it would of narrowed down what I meant. Christians were raised and taught that Satan is bad and God is good, but if you read the bible, look up the history of Abrahamicism, and look at the behavior of the jews and their followers, then it's makes me think that this supposed "Satan" figure that has been painted as a evil being was actually Yahweh himself and this dicthomoy was created on purpose to deter Christians from learning the truth that got gnostics killed and imprisoned. They are told to worship the same entity, but this entity hides behind a lie of his true nature and intentions as a kind, peaceful and lovable being.

>>4786 As matter of fact I shouldn't even used Satan, but just had said the Devil himself.

>>4778 Yahweh is a demiurge, by definition, because he's a spiritual entity trying to take the dominion of the material realm from the Yazata for himself to fashion to his liking.

>>4793 >Yahweh is a demiurge, by definition Yahweh is the demiurge according to the Hebrews. There is no confirmation that Yahweh is the demiurge is one of them. It could just be one really powerful Ashura.

>>4794 Yahweh is certainly the current the demiurge of the world right now though. Think of how shit the world became after the conversion of Constantine? Rome fell, Europe became a powder keg of inbred retarded kings that all killed each other, Iran and Anatolia fell to Islam and became inevitably brown. Hitler was the last gasp of built up rage against the injustices of the modern Jeudo-materialist world, and in the end Yahweh ended up winning. Christians, jews, and muslims all give spiritual power to Yahweh. They praise his name, they empower him memetically.

>>4786 Ah, I see why you used the term Satan now, and it makes sense. What you’re saying is similar to what I have thought myself in the past. Time and time again throughout we see groups of Christians wake up to the truth regarding Yahweh, and as you said, they paid for their discovery with their lives. With the Cathars especially the (((Church))) utterly exterminated them. Wikipedia estimates 200,000 to 1,000,000 dead. Is this what happens when one finds out the truth about Yahweh? It gets shut down this hard? >>4793 >>4794 Sometimes I wonder whether even this is according too much to Yahweh. If we are to reference pre-Abrahamic discussions of Demiurge-like figures, he / it is not an evil being, even if it is lower than God / the Monad. In Vedic spirituality the god Brahmā (not to be confused with Brahman) is essentially equivalent to the Demiurge in that he created the material universe and was the father of all the gods and creatures within it. He is a rather exalted figure from what I can gather, granting boons to ascetics and providing wisdom in some minor upanishads. Plato’s discussion of the Demiurge also depicts him as good, free from jealous bringing the cosmos from chaos to order, making the world as perfect as he was able to.

>>4800 >Wikipedia estimates 200,000 to 1,000,000 dead. Is this what happens when one finds out the truth about Yahweh? It gets shut down this hard? Cathars believed that God in the New Testament was benevolent and the God in the Old Testament was Satan. The Cathars weren't perfect for they had some weird views on gender and saw that the material world was evil and the creation of Satan and that they should only care for the spiritual one, because it is heavenly and created by the supposed "good" God due to their dualistic concept of God, which is kind of similar to Zoroastrianism. What's interesting here is that they shunned the Catholic church as corrupt and evil for their indulges in money and power that they argued or excuse of them for why they are so sinful and the church didn't like this one bit. This lead to Pope Innocent II to launch the Albigensian Crusade after he failed to get his preachers to convert the Cathars back into Catholicism and ordered the crusaders to solve the issue of Cathars by force and this example of crusader might came with massacre of a important town known as Béziers. After the Cathars failed to defend the city the crusaders began butchering everyone within their sights and it wasn't just Cathars, but Catholics within the town who suffered at the hands of their own Christians. I can see why the Catholic church went through so much effort to exterminate them, but it's not as if the Cathars were speaking a truth and fighting against Yahweh entirely.

>>4801 Yeah they are a little too 'otherworldly' for my liking. Nor do I think that materiality is inherently flawed or evil. Despite the dualistic aspects of Zoroastrianism they never equated the material world with evil interestingly. Manichaeism did though, and the influence of that religion did reach Europe. They even revered the Buddha, Jesus and Zoroaster as prophets as well. This makes me wonder whether there was some influence here, because just like the Cathars, there was also a split between the highly ascetic elect and lay-followers, equivalent to baptized perfecti and unbaptised believers. It seems to be characteristic of true traditional Aryan religions that materiality is not something seen as inherently evil. What is seen as less than good, however, is to deluded by materiality and blinded to everything else. This is exactly what we see with degenerate modern society today.

>>4800 There is a good demiurge and there is an evil demiurge. In Manicheism Mithra was a benevolent demiurge who fashioned the world in good. I believe Yahweh has usurped Brahma/DyausPitar as demiurge and plans to fashion the material world in his image, which is terrible.

>>4805 > I believe Yahweh has usurped Brahma/DyausPitar as demiurge and plans to fashion the material world in his image, which is terrible. This is 100% possible and very likely. According to the Vedic material this is not impossible in the slightest, and indeed happens occasionally. I actually mentioned this once earlier ITT >>1863. < It’s not unattested for the gods to be routed for a time by extremely powerful demons, necessitating an avatar to come and restore the Natural Order – see Bali, Ravana, etc. Ravana in particularly became so powerful due to a boon from Brahmā that he oppressed both the heavenly, hellish and earthly planes. It is said that even Indra is tormented by Ravana as he wills. This has all happened before From this perspective Yahweh is little different than Bali, Ravana or other evil entities who have attempted to lord over the Universe.

>>4747 >The question is whether anyone cares about my eclectic brand of paganism. Go full schizo

>>4782 I suppose you refer to this article by Lawrence Guyenot. https://www.unz.com/article/the-devils-trick-unmasking-the-god-of-israel/

>>4836 Maybe it would be a bit more interesting. I do actually already have 3,000 words written on this topic that I was planning to incorporate into something larger in the future.

>>1822 I have managed to make most people close to me realize that Christianity is subversive. It's mostly based on the fact that I've studied a bit of my history (Finnish) and it shows how subversive it is. No one is taught Finnish history here, only Swedish and by that I mean Christian sweden. Most of our words are based on old myths and spirits,but very few know anything of it. Our culture or people have nothing to do with kikes and their religions

>>4859 I guess this goes to show how much influence the culture and environment can have on whether someone can be successfully deprogrammed regarding this stuff or not. I'm an American and I've had dreadful luck when it comes to convincing people that Christianity is bad, and I think a big part of the reason why is that the history of this shithole is so tied up with Christian sects of various types. Good to see that it's not like this everywhere, at least you can also point to old epics like the Kalevala and the like too.

>>4868 Well I would guess that in the U.S it would be quite hard. >old epics like Kalevala it's still pretty Christianized but still helps to point to an older Finnish identity

>>4976 I refuse to believe that a Christcuck would care so much about this board. How many shekels are the kikes at JIDF paying you to pretend to be retarded for this board alone?

>>4976 Oh yeah? Even more impressive is the fact that 39 people were willing to die in March 1997 when the comet Hale-Bopp passed by Earth. These men and women died in their belief in an ascension to an alien spaceship that would take them to the next level of existence. Such faith, it's truly beautiful. I say it's the foundation for a potential White ethnostate. We know that Hale-Bopp was indeed passing by Earth at this time, and that there is no logical reason why nearly forty people would kill themselves for their faith. And on top of this one or two members of Heaven's Gate even remained around after the suicide to keep preaching the message. The only logical explanation is that 'OUR BROTHER ALIENS ARE GOING TO ALLOW US TO ASCEND AS WELL Discard your earthly vehicle, White man. The Nordics are coming to uplift us. >>4975 Shame that it has been Christianized. I have a copy of it on my shelf that I have been reading at some point, being a Euromutt Burger of partially Finnish heritage. >>4980 Abrahamic exclusivism does not allow other opinions to exist. It's rooted in the Semitism of these religions

>>4982 > 39 people were willing to die in March 1997 when the comet Hale-Bopp >cult shit ISHYGDDT.

>>4987 Of course I don't believe it, but it's basically the level of what that Christfag above is talking about when he attests to the fact that people claimed to have seen Jesus, and that people were willing to die for Jesus

>>4989 Refer to >>4992 and>>4994 You're doing an awful job of being a troll. >It's very predictable that low content anti-Christian posters would accuse you of being a kike shill You are a kike shill when you bring no effort to argue Christianity is compatible with fascism other than spewing a bunch of nonsense. >At least provide a counterargument. I'm not going to argue with you, because we had this debate for a hundred times explaining why christianity is shit. It's a waste of time and effort, especially when you aren't here for anything other than being a nuisance.

>>4989 jewsus' followers stole his corpse from the tomb and cannibalized his rotting body in accordance with John 6:53-58: <Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever. Eucharist is ritual cannibalism in commemoration of this. Fuck off Christcuck. Suck of you niggerlovers

>>4997 It's probably some really angry shitskin from India based on the fact that in multiple threads he is crying over how Indo-Aryans were not smelly brown men

>>4929 Thought of this plenty of times actually. Christ to kike racial integrity is like Karl Marx to Aryan political worldview. Christ says that all races (niggers, Whites, arabs) are equal to that of the jew. I'd imagine why the jews, who are extremely racist, would hate him.

>>5008 >muh church fathers >muh experts >muh critics NO ONE CARES Jesus literally told his disciples to consume his flesh and drink his blood in order to gain eternal life. He was then crucified. Reports circulated that his body was missing. His body was never found. Likely consumed by his disciples. The disciples would retain their faith having consumed the flesh and blood of Jesus, filled with the zeal of faith and willing to die for their beliefs. A bunch of people at the same time were having hallucinations and dreams thinking they had seen an exalted Jesus, obviously in great distress over his death. (((Saul of Tarsus))) would mention this and inflate the number to some arbitrary amount and then millennia later retards like (you) would take them at face value when there is zero evidence except for some jew writing decades after Jesus died. <two concrete descriptions of (initiation) rites, in which infanticide played an important role, have survived. The first is located on a late-second-century Egyptian papyrus. The text is a fragment from a novel and recounts the ritual murder of a young boy. It features the youth’s heart being removed from his body. The heart is sprinkled with barley, sopped in oil, and subsequently served out to the participants of the initiation rite. Those present swear an oath, eat the heart, drink the blood, and, finally, engage in sexual intercourse with one another. <An infant covered over with meal, that it may deceive the unwary, is placed before him who is to be stained with their rites: this infant is slain by the young pupil, who has been urged on as if to harmless blows on the surface of the meal, with dark and secret wounds. Thirstily – O horror! – they lick up its blood; eagerly they divide its limbs. By this victim they are pledged together; with this consciousness of wickedness they are covenanted to mutual silence... "Mutual silence"? Cannibalism rumors were reported in France, Bithynia, Pontus, Rome, Egpyt - all across the Empire.

>>5009 Yeah, exactly. From the perspective of racial survival, rejecting Jesus is entirely rational. jews realize that their jewish supremacy would be negated if they worshiped this hippie. This is why they nailed him to a cross. I literally can't blame them, and would have done the same. One has to be very naive to think that just because the jews reject this man and the anti-racial ideology built up around him, that therefore it is now good.

>>4982 The Kalevala has a lot of the most annoying kind of chirtscuckery, it's subtle and you can't be sure where it starts and ends. It's quite sad to me, but it's still a good book

>>4793 >>4794 >>4798 There is no such thing as a Demiurge, the concept of it and whether it is good or evil is a jewish trick. The universe is here, it is real, there is more to it than just what we can see hear, touch, taste and smell. There is no known creator, not even the gods truly know if or whether there even is one, most of the creation myths we have are us giving that role to whatever deity most fits because we see that this universe was created, but the creator is long gone or may never even have existed as some kind of thinking being. The universe and our existence in it is simply part of a great cycle that repeats patterns endlessly, no beginning or end is known or matters, the cycle goes on ad infinitum following the same rules it always has. Love this reality, and stop worrying about whether or not it's creator loves you or hates you, or made this as a trap or as some stupid test or some other fucking retarded idea about WHY this universe was created. Just live in it the best that you can, to the best of your abilities in accordance with the laws of the universe.

>>5021 > there is more to it than just what we can see hear, touch, taste and smell The experience of this is in fact one of the best 'proofs' that there is something even beyond the Demiurge, who is himself a part of the material universe. No matter the religion, descriptions of mystical experiences of ultimate Reality are almost entirely identical. In the Taittiriya Upanishad, Brahman or the Absolute is described as being of the nature of Truth / pure Being, Consciousness and Bliss (sat-chit-ananda). Islamic mystic Ibn Arabi described the nature of Allah as being wujud, wijdan and wajd - exactly the same as what sages were saying over a millennia previously. The Katha Upanishad says that Brahman is to only understood when comprehend by the thought "He is"—I understand this to mean that absolute Reality is pure existence, consisting of pure, infinite Consciousness. It cannot not exist. It is everything there is, ultimately, nothingness doesn't exist. Parmenides said this as well in the 6th century BCE. Plotinus described very similar things to all of this when he describes the process of 'Henosis', union with the ultimate Reality, with the Monad. And interestingly this exact subjective experience described in the paragraph above is experienced when on 5-MeO-DMT. All of this raises extremely interesting questions. >live in it the best that you can, to the best of your abilities in accordance with the laws of the universe. This is true.

>>5004 It possibly could be fascifist. He has videos where he tries to shill Christianity into fascism, along with Anglo butthurt and gets pissy when you are for White identity, against christcuckery, and refuse be sympathetic and about muh oppressed street shitters.

>>5053 >gets pissy when you are for White identity, against christcuckery, and refuse be sympathetic and about muh oppressed street shitters. He sounds like a total faggot. Why is it that so many of the people who make videos and write blogs are just total morons?

>>5053 Why would this streetpooper be into fascism and be like that? What was he supposed to be believing in?

>>5055 >Why is it that so many of the people who make videos and write blogs are just total morons? Because intellectualism is for retards and the internet makes you ghey. >>5065 One of the most common misconceptions of fascism on the right is that just anyone can be a European fascist. He must be one of those christcucks who think we are just reactionaries or become like them, but more "radical" when it comes to religion and politics. I think the type like him are just shills who want to ensure that we are Abrahamic cuckolds.

>>5068 >Because intellectualism is for retards and the internet makes you ghey. Starting to think that is true. I guess now we see the reason why Fascism has always emphasized the primacy of action over thought, and why Yukio Mishima in time got tired of words and embraced the sun and steel.

>>5053 >>5055 >>5065 Fasicifist is a Street shitter who lives in germany and married a White woman, in flagrant violation of his own "Aryan" caste rules probably because he converted to, and shills relentlessly for, "Christain Aryanism"(basically Positive Christianity + the old testament and a decent helping of WE WUZ JEWS or BIBLE GUYS WAS NOT JEWS, either one) and has many allies in both the CI and CA circles on telegram and I am sure other places, that we cannot see for lack of interest in christcuckery.

>>5082 Kek, does he himself as an Aryan or something?

>>5128 >It is a fact that Christianity has enhanced White civilization. Imagine believing this. White Civilization was already going strong centuries before Semitic religions started to be forced onto the population. Almost all Christian theology relied on things thought up by pagans such as Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Plotinus and many, many others centuries before Christianity even existed. If it was not for the philosophy of non-Christians Christianity would be an intellectual desert, just like Judaism and Islam would be as well without Hellenistic philosophy. >The Catholic church was the backbone of Europe for millenia. The Catholic Church was and is a corrupt institution which slaughtered Europeans for millennia and colonized and conquered Europe internally with force and Semitic fables. >It was the enlightenment that brought relativism and degeneracy to the world. The Enlightenment was carried out by devoted Christians. Modernity is merely secular Christcuckery. >The consensus of all the experts Classic christcucking here, only supporting academia when they support your narrative. You can't even debunk the theory without an appeal to authority from the same people who say that race isn't real, the Holocaust happened and that our ancestors miraculously crawled out of a chemical soup two billion years ago Jesus was a jew. This should be the end of the question. Your Semitic war-god has no place on this board. I cannot wait for the day when I drive nails through the hands of every one of you kike-worshipers. Die like your jew

There is a concerted effort to shill Christianity going on here, everyone should have their eyes peeled. Before in this thread this poster was posting with an ID, but after he was caught samefagging in the Japan thread, he was banned and suddenly two days later a Christcuck reappears on Tor shilling all of the same points in multiple threads at the same time. He types like the same shill on Neuchan too.

>>5136 Based also based mods. It's also very evident how fragile and childish these many of these people are being when the christcucks insult paganism, "pagans" don't really take any offense, on the other hand they get extremely riled up and offended because they know there's some truth to what we are discussing it's proto-marxist, crypto-jewish nature that only takes looking at Codex Theodonius to see what Christianity was about in it's early days, and knowing the history where their cult leader Pope stole the Roman empire's wealth when it fell(and then shortly after romans (((coincidentally))) started getting mixed because these weak greedy literally marxist jew hippies allowed invading Muslims into Europe unopposed for ages see:Siege of Belgrade et cetera) I also noticed a momentary spike on anon.cafe /christian/ board after the fags censored us. Might just be a coincidence though. Look at most the christian boards though, most of them with some exception couldn't even be racially conscious ethnocentric even if they tried. They give off the vibe of some slave deraciated people that does not even know or appreciate such things as who he is and that he is White, from special people who are the undeniably the greatest on this earth. They literally see criticisms of their religion as a personal attack on their being, not just an attack of an idea they believe in because they personally believe worshipping jews is so important, equally as important as something like Race(!!!!!!!!) >>5136 Maybe or its some butthurt individuals who can't handle the fact that we don't like their religion very much and are discussing exactly why because it hurts them we criticize it, (Gee almost as if its a bigger issue than race) It was the same thing on 8chan and 4chan years ago we also had problems with their cuck shit there, some of these retards would admit this shit openly when pressured to based anons that it's (((holyness))) (((faith))) and not race/being that that is important. Before they got their own bullshit death cult echo chambers up.

>>5136 >It's impossible that Christian White nationalists visit the board and feel compelled to express their ideas >it must be a concerted effort to shill Christianity >board is strongly against Christianity, but it is surprising Christians show up here and there to debate others trashing their religion >underground Christian shill farms are a thing >teams of paid/unpaid Christian shills... scouring the internet to find places of Christian hate to shill their religion

>>5144 It's really impossible to tell whether most Christian posters are shills or if they are just zealous and butthurt about the fact that /fascist/ is one of the most redpilled boards on the Internet that I am aware of when it comes to the issue of the Christian question. Christianity is a deradicalizing force. In fact it's the last one they can try to spring on the redpilled White man before he becomes quite literally unstoppable. Many lesser people are wooed into Christianity because of the facade of 'conservative values' and the like, but it terrifies them when a White man sees right through and continues to push on, especially when he sidesteps other traps like (((modern science))) and (((materialism))) for paganism, calling out Yahweh as the foreskin demon that he is. Once a White man hits this stage there's no going back. The goyim know

>>5145 >>underground Christian shill farms are a thing >>teams of paid/unpaid Christian shills... scouring the internet to find places of Christian hate to shill their religion You say this like it is far-fetched. On places like 4cuck there are little Christian bots that shit out the same threads over and over and post almost identical replies and images when poked. On top of this, we're talking about the religion which sends out missionaries en masse in association with numerous churches and charities to shill their jew on a stick to poor Third Worlders and other vulnerable people in order to spiritually / mentally enslave them. They want everyone in the world within their cult. If they're sending out people to Africa and Asia to shill for this shit in person it wouldn't surprise me if they did it all over the Internet as well. It's probably just zealous little church fags though

>>5145 The catholic dumbass that got deleted literally didn't make one single argument and would just write a giant big "N0000 I refuse UR WRONK!!!!!!" Anything is possible in clown world. See; Pope is almost openly a pedophile living in a special "vatican state" palace inside rome with a group of old men that almost openly rapes little boys who come forward to italian press as adults, while their chief licks a nigger feet on tv-- South Korean Christcuck organizations help smuggle people out of countries like north Korea, not to comment on whether that smuggling a good deed or not but these death cultists have their "holy" fingers in a lot of weird shit. >>5146

>>5153 >South Korean Christcuck organizations help smuggle people out of countries like north Korea, not to comment on whether that smuggling a good deed or not but these death cultists have their "holy" fingers in a lot of weird shit. Honestly North Koreans would've had a better life in South Korea. And yes I'll acknowledge that SK has its own problems too. Are they not just trying to help them better their life?

>>5175 North Koreans are constitutionally guaranteed healthcare, housing, jobs and education and are shielded from jewish social engineering. I’d say they have it better there. South Koreans are bombarded by hypersexualized K-pop, spend all of their time playing Starcraft and literally studying the Talmud in the school because the jews are apparently so special and wise. Many people in Seoul literally live in shitty shanty towns (pic related). Not to mention ZOG servicemen BLACK South Korean women just like they do in Okinawa. Pay special attention to the big neon torture instrument they nailed Jesus to in the second pic

I make the mistake of browsing Poal occasionally, it's almost wild how Christian shills work. Hardly any posts get like, a maximum of 10 upvotes from what I've seen, but whenever I see a comment about "wow these guys are gonna shoot White Christian Patriots", those said posts suddenly shoot up to like the 20's or near 30. They ALWAYS make sure to hammer in the fact that it's 'christian' more than anything. Make no mistake, abrahamism shills exist, and I like to think they're trying to cover as many underground spots as possible.

>>5192 >abrahamism shills exist, and I like to think they're trying to cover as many underground spots as possible. There's definitely a motive for doing so. Just think, how else could they 'deradicalize' us? Guilt-tripping me about 'hate' isn't going to work. Appealing to liberal slave morality isn't going to work. The only option left is to convince me that the creator of the universe wants me to turn the other cheek and to not resist evil, and that ultimately race is meaningless. It's quite tricky, actually. If I were a government spook I'd definitely be shilling hard for Christianity in White Nationalist circles.

>>5175 >Are they not just trying to help them better their life? No, really as literal payment in return for saving them they literally demand them to worship jews/yaweh and go to church. >>5199 >There's definitely a motive for doing so. I know because I doxed some derad agent christcuck shill spic from Florida bothering us last year called niggerrick(real name: Jimmy Torres Velez) on Neinchan, his son, roach infested apartment, and had some fun with it. The spic dissapeared.

Mark Brahmin has done good work on this subject, building off of what Nietzsche established. Christianity was developed so that jews could feminize Aryans and make them subservient to jews. 2,000 years of Christian breeding has created the modern American White, a hopelessly stupid retard cheering for Israel to start an apocalyptic war to kill everyone. https://theapolloniantransmission.com/2019/04/09/the-cult-of-apollo-part-iii-apolloism-versus-christianity/

>>5202 >Christianity was developed so that jews could feminize Aryans That's a retarded theory. Christianity began as a movement by kikes for kikes. It was only with Paul that it began to look outward. Furthermore, one could argue that Christianity actually deradicalized the kikes rather than the other way around, since unlike other messianic movements it didn't gather around a militaristic messiah who promised to take back Judea.

>>5201 The current Christkike seems to write pretty differently from Niggerspick. Nice job for doxxing him, but it seems like other niggers have crept out of the woodwork.

>>5203 It might not be as retarded as it seems. Before Paul, Christianity really didn't exist. That's important to remember, and I mean in the sense that there were no Gospels in written form, no letters that formed the foundation of the New Testament, etc. Paul didn't even ever use the term 'Christian'. He saw himself as simply a jew whose mission it was to convert the gentiles into his brand of Judaism with Jesus as the Messiah / Christ. It was only with Paul, some 20+ years after Jesus was killed that Paul showed up on the scene and began to form what was to become Christianity, separating it from the jewish law, etc (because gentiles didn't want to get their dicks cut and eat kosher) > Furthermore, one could argue that Christianity actually deradicalized the kikes rather than the other way around, since unlike other messianic movements it didn't gather around a militaristic messiah who promised to take back Judea. This might have some water to it. It seems like the jews by-and-large were resistant to the fact that Jesus could be the Messiah though. The rabbis knew they had to stop this before it got out of hand, so they started killing and persecuting jews who fell for the Jesus meme. And eventually they were successful, and by the time they were, Paul - a student of the greatest rabbis of his day - had successfully began to shill his brand of gentile-friendly Judaism among the slaves, women and subhumans of the Roman Empire. It's really like the jews played hot potato with this religion. They knew it was bad, so they passed it on to the gentiles as fast as they could >>5204 The big similarity is continuously talking about resurrection constantly. But I do think they're different.

Christshill strikes again.

>>5210 Yeah, I don't think that Spic Rick knows how to write Japanese. Must be a different derad shill, possibly an (((NGO))) effort.

>>5199 Christianity does not say that race and nation are meaningless. For example, for the longest time Bob Jones University banned miscegnation. Christianity affirms the validity of nations; the Book of Acts says that God set the boundaries between peoples, and the ways in which God protected the jewish nation also affirm the idea of nationhood. There are more universalist passages, but they are about the equal dignity and salvation of man before Christ, and are not intended to erase the concept of a nation.

>>5231 It's almost surely jewgle-translated. >>5232 >Christianity does not say that race and nation are meaningless. Yes it does. Ironically you faggots can never quote scripture in support of your nonsense. Matthew 6:19-21 tells you to store up treasure in heaven and not on Earth, due to the fact that everything on Earth does not last and is ephemeral compared to the things of heaven. The entire book of Ecclesiastes is literally about how meaningless and vain everything is. Isaiah 40:15 says that the nations (goyim) are like a drop in the bucket, just fine dust to God. They're utterly worthless, less than nothing (Isaiah 40:17). So it's clear that worldly life is meaningless and that the nations are worth nothing to God. God despises anything beautiful and intelligent because he wants no one to boast before him (1 Corinthians 1:27-29). GOD CHOSE NIGGERS, RETARDS AND FREAKS ABOVE THE BEAUTIFUL, STRONG, WHITE ARYANS BECAUSE HE DOES DOESN'T WANT THEM TO BOAST. God says that there are no jews, women, slaves, free, Greeks or anything because they're all in a mystical body of Christ (Galatians 3:28). Christianity tells you to envision yourself as the "bride of Christ" in Ephesians 5. CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE LITERALLY SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD THINK OF YOURSELF LIKE A SUBMISSIVE WIFE TO A RABBI Christians should be lined up and shot

>>5234 >GOD CHOSE NIGGERS, RETARDS AND FREAKS ABOVE THE BEAUTIFUL, STRONG, WHITE ARYANS BECAUSE HE DOES DOESN'T WANT THEM TO BOAST Are Aryans the only humans who are beautiful and strong? It's to note that other races should empower themselves from their own religions.

>>5240 They can be to an extent in their own way, but read the verse that I referenced and you'll see that Yahweh is a literal god of subhumans, favoring the foolish and weak over what would be the best specimens of his alleged creation.

>>5206 >The big similarity is continuously talking about resurrection constantly. But I do think they're different. It's important note that the resurrection is the big talking point for Christkike apologists, including people like William Lane Craig and Gary Habermas. Without the resurrection, there would be no reason to believe in Christcuckery over Judaism or Islam or any other theistic religion, including traditionally White religions. It's the resurrection that pushes the needle towards Judaism 2.0 in particular.

>>5252 >I am a Chinese person, use TOR to leap wall and look at this image board. Good. Next time stay in your wall; we don't want or need any more yellow rice niggers. >My family lives in the countryside, here evangelization activities are very active, and the government does not really restrict it, we all believe in Christianity, but still love the motherland and love traditional culture. Good for you. You're still allowed to enjoy your culture on a superficial, aesthetic level while the jews use all sorts of (((modern ideologies))), including (((modern Evangelicalism))), to paralyze you as they suck your country dry. >We read the Bible, must look at the whole, not look at one part. And the whole of it is jewish pilpul through and through. >The Bible's Galatians 3:28 and other passage are not negate the existence of peoples, but rather point that Jesus goes beyond race, gender, etc. The same passage also points to gender, but everybody knows Christianity holds traditional gender idea, reject some feminism etc. ideologies. In same way, Christian faith supports every nation's equal dignity, but does not negate the importance of nations. Pilpul, pilpul, pilpul. There are some more conservative churches that ban women pastors and so on, but moderate to liberal Christianity has been the backbone of (((feminism))) for decades now. Even modern-day (((conservatives))) are feminist by more historical standards. Evangelicals are fine with birth control and so on, to take an example. It is feminism that has to a great extent contributed to our pathetically low birth rates. Don't grovel at the jew's feet asking for forgiveness and repentance now that you believe in the jew God, White man. Don't be one of sheep as the Bible commands you. Wake up!

>>5256 Don’t respond to this shill. He’s been active daily in several threads and was IP-banned, hence why he is posting on Tor now haha

Deleted this on accident, sorry

CHRISTIANITY IS A HOAX 1/2 When one really goes and looks at the timeline, it's exceedingly obvious that the religion of Christianity is one of the greatest psyops ever perpetrated. Christianity was the revenge of the Eternal jew for centuries of gentile (esp. European) occupation, domination and oppression. In 333/332 BCE Alexander the Great conquered Israel and the surrounding areas. This was the beginning of centuries of European domination of the jews, with only a few interruptions. Even the kings who would rule the jews from Egypt (Ptolemaic Kingdom) and the Middle East (Seleucids) were all Greeks. In 198 BCE the Seleucids took control over Israel. By the 170s the Seleucids began to apply pressure on the jews to renounce their religion and to assimilate to a fully Greek culture. Up to this point jews had accepted a modest degree of Hellenization, learning Greek language and culture, allowing Greek gymnasiums to be built in Jerusalem, etc. But now things began to change. Antiochus IV Epiphanes decided to install the Aryan god Zeus in the jewish temple. He also banned people from partaking in the sabbath, he banned all jewish festivals, he banned people from confessing to be jews. Judaism was completely banned on the penalty of death. 2 Maccabees 6:10 records how two women who chopped their newborns' penises in accordance with barbaric jewish customs were hurled off a wall for their actions. Unable to subvert the goyim, unable to suck the blood out of the penises of baby boys, the jews began to sperg out, hard. In 167 BCE the jews began waging war against the Aryan occupiers. Freedom was achieved by 142 BCE. Fast-forwarding to 63 BCE the Roman Pompey once again subjugates the jews and rules them through client-states. Reacting against the still-present influences of Hellenization, the Pharisees began to appear around 110 BCE, before the Romans even came. Their name literally means 'separated ones'. These were jews who led the charge for jews to live particularly holy lives, to resist Hellenization, and to distinguish jewish culture from foreign, gentile influences. They were popular among the people, and no friend of Rome, but crucially the Pharisees did not support open rebellion against Rome. In this sense they are equivalent to the quietist Salafis in Saudi Arabia who try to be apolitical and not resist the Saudi state which they believe to have gone astray. The radical Salafists are the Jihadis, the ones who resist. These were the Zealots among the jews, who wanted freedom for the jews and supported open conflict. In 4 CE a Zealot named Judas led a revolt in Sepphoris, only a few miles from Nazareth, Jesus' hometown. He was proclaimed king by some. The Romans responded by destroying the town and selling many of the inhabitants into slavery. In 40 CE a jew named Theudas claimed to be a prophet and attempted to protest taxes imposed by the Romans. Romans put this down violently. In 66 CE the jewish zealots launched their first major rebellion against the Romans, leading to the destruction of the temple in 70 CE and the imposition of the fiscus Judaicus (literally a 'jew tax). Josephus claims that a million jews died in Jerusalem and 100,000 enslaved as a result of these events. This is likely exaggerated, as they are prone to doing, but it shows the extent of their butthurt.

CHRISTIANITY IS A HOAX 2/2 Now during this period of resistance to gentile occupation, mysteriously, some two decades after the death of Jesus, a Pharisee with Roman citizenship (i.e. of the sect of those resistant to Hellenization and Roman rule) named Saul believes he is appointed by Jesus to spread Judaism unto the goyim. New writings about Jesus began appear in the decades after Saul's work. All of these writings are written decades after Jesus died in Greek, the language of international communication and the gentiles. The oldest gospel, the Gospel of Mark is traced back to roughly 70 CE - the same year the Temple was destroyed. Matthew is written around 80-90 CE and draws off Mark. Luke-Acts appears at the same time, perhaps slightly later, so some time between 80-100 CE. John appears at 90-110 CE. All of these epistles from Saul precede the Gospels by decades and were being sent to European cities across the Empire. Later epistles still put under the name of Paul continue even after his death. Paul could have been the name assumed by a cabal of Pharisees, even. During all of this, the struggle between jewry and Aryandom wages on. Between 115-117 the jewish diaspora began to revolt in the Kitos War. 460,000+ Roman citizens are slaughtered by jews in the Eastern Mediterranean. In Cyprus the jew Artemion leads the jews on this island to kill 240,000 Greeks. For generations afterwards jews would be completely banned from stepping on Cyprian soil due to these events, being killed on sight. In Libya, the massares committed by the jews were so savage that the countryside was quite literally depopulated. The original 1906 jewish Encyclopedia stated on the Cyrene massacres: < By this outbreak Libya was depopulated to such an extent that a few years later new colonies had to be established there (Eusebius, "Chronicle" from the Armenian, fourteenth year of Hadrian). http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4826-cyrene Even the Kitos War was not the end. In 132 to 136 there was the Bar Kokhba revolt in Judea. Here Hadrian utterly devestates jewry. As Wikipedia says "580,000 jews killed, 50 fortified towns and 985 villages razed; "many more" jews dead as a result of famine and disease." jews were quite literally banned from entering Jerusalem, and the entire city was renamed. So what we have here is decades and decades and decades of struggle between jewish nationalists and an Aryan Empire. Millions of people were dying. Christians don't like to address these things. Without this subtext it might not make sense why one would want to subvert gentiles with Christianity. In the midst of this bloodbath a cabal of jews begins spreading a message of 'turn the other cheek' and 'resist not evil' to the gentiles of the Roman Empire, spreading like wildfire among women, slaves, subhumans and all other sorts of human garbage. It's an entirely rational hypothesis, and after writing this it seems to me clearer than ever. Some of you probably knew this, but let it serve as a reminder next time a Christcuck tries to pilpul you. They are peddling two millennia old jewish war psyops.

>>5280 >>5282 Nicely summarized. Capped for future use.

>>5288 Glad you liked it. I had fun writing it up. Been wondering if I should make a blog or something at some point for these sort of things. I've gotten decent reception for my other anti-Christian posts here. Never tried anything like that though.

Can someone got this book ? I read the review by Kevin McDonald and it's pretty cool, just like this thread but summarized in one book. https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/04/27/review-of-david-skirbinas-the-jesus-hoax-how-st-pauls-cabal-fooled-the-world-for-two-thousand-years/

>>5291 It doesn't appear to be online yet. I became aware of this book a week or two ago myself, though, and will be buying within a month probably. If it's not online by the time I buy it and read it I'll scan that shit and post it here. Interestingly that is the same guy that put together the first collection of Kaczynski writings if I'm not mistaken. I had no idea that he was so redpilled

>>5293 It's available on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Hoax-Pauls-Fooled-Thousand/dp/1732353239

>>5301 Hopefully it won't get removed or anything. Looks like it has been up for a while though

Christcucks are dumb, but a good amount seem to be anti-kike. If we could use them as useful idiots, then I don't see the reason why we can't shepherd (no pun intended) them into fighting for us. Hitler seemed into the idea of "Positive Christianity". He definitely knew the Aryan Cosmogany and the Aryan deities, but to create a theological schism right now would prove too damaging for the Aryan movement. I was watching this "God Hates Video Games" sermon that popped in my jewtube feed and the pastor was directly talking about jew-owned studios and it blew me away of how up front he was. Perhaps we can use Christian jew-hatred to some degree.

>>5314 >God Hates Video Game Most memes are related to vidya. And imageboard culture has vidya in it.

>>5314 You have to understand that usually what happens is we discuss using our language, some invested christcucks come in, start yelling and acting up tell us what 'pagan assholes' we are for daring to even discuss history, the fundemental discrepancies and harmful literary anti-racial cultural marxist dogma of their irracial desert religion, rinse repeat all the way since 8chan. Our insults are quite literally banter tier but as with our actual arguments Christians will never address them, literally all they do is ignore us when we tell them to get their shit together believing in a book that DEMANDS cuckdom like anti violence, equality, a religion that worships jews. A lot of them just refuse, we tell them either to believe something else, remake their religion(not fucking retarded shit like we wuz da jooz), or at the very least start believing in the most White version. Almost always they lose face and go away after saying "Omg! Fucking pagunz!! -- U're going to hell!!1111"(lol) They actually run away because they don't want to have an honest conversation about this, many of them also run away because it clearly appears that the desert religion is more important than their race, which is an incredibly big problem.

>>5317 Wannabe believer here. Not really into the Abrahamism thing and haven't really read the entire bible yet but i noticed something with niggers and their understanding of "Christianity". >1.)They believe in god and have a personal cuck bible but can't read due to low IQ. >2.)They larp as christian yet never do the things they preach (subhumanism) >3.)They are very anti White but still larp as a christian so it can make them feel somehow "better". Every nigger that preaches bible verses always contradicts themselves. and every single christcuck nigger loves sucking yid feet. They have two favorite philosophies "White people" and "muh dik". Nothing else. They are human toys for kikes and if they knew that their huwite boogeyman was actually a kike then they would shut the fuck up and go back to africa. (but they can't because deep down they know they cant live without Whites)

>Christcucks are dumb, but a good amount seem to be anti-kike. Christcucks cannot truly be anti-kike for they not only believe and practice a jewish religion but their supremacy and spirituality as well. Christcuckolds will only openly announce that they dislike or disapprove of the "new jews". Christians and their crusades against the jewry has only and always been about replacing the kikes as the better jews that they think of themselves as just like their prophet (((Jesus))) who only wanted a reformation. The belief of being against jews is an oxymoron when it comes to Islam and Christianity.

>>5316 Memes and "imageboard culture" (culture can only be developed by a group of ethnically congruent people living in one place for at least more than a century) are hindrances at best and total poison at worst. The average productivity of a White man can be increased tenfold if he simply cut video games (which are exclusively made by jews or homosexual japs) out of his life.

>>5314 The thing about “Positive Christianity” is that it failed in the end, though. The inclusion of Positive Christianity into the original NSDAP program was almost certainly added in as yet another sign that they were anti-Bolshevism and anti-atheist, which were major issues at the time. Germany was also 95%+ Christian at the time. I’m not saying that it was purely Machiavellian, but even in how the party program talks about Christianity makes it clear that they wanted it subordinated to the state and not harmful to the Volk. Today Christians are utilizable to an extent. I just talked with a Christian IRL for five or six hours about jews and related topics and due to my influence he is now highly woke to the JQ, but not fully on board. The average Christian might not be as receptive though. I’ve been gradually redpilling for a few months. Posting anti-jew content is always good, but for Christians it’s inherently limited, as >>5323 says. >>5320 Not just niggers, but almost all Christians fall under (1) and (2) funnily enough. Most of them believe that Jesus ‘fulfilled’ the Law and now all they have to do to be saved from hellfire is to have faith in Jesus and nothing else. Suggesting that they have to do anything else is putting works above faith, which is anti-Jesus and anti-Christian. Some of these retards think a child-molester would instantly be saved from hell because of ‘faith’ despite being a subhuman freak while pagans would be burning in hellfire

I read about "St. Bartholomew's Day massacre" and "Thirty Years War". Is there is more of such conflicts started by christians/jews which resulted in dead of millions of White people ?

>>5334 >The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade [...] was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France. >At least 200,000 to at most 1,000,000 Cathars killed >Considered by many historians to be an act of genocide against the Cathars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade >A boy begins to preach in either France or Germany; claims that he had been visited by Jesus, who instructed him to lead a Crusade in order to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity. >he gains a following of up to 30,000 children >He leads his followers south towards the Mediterranean Sea, in the belief that the sea would part on their arrival, which would allow him and his followers to walk to Jerusalem. This does not happen. The children are sold to two merchants (Hugh the Iron and William of Posqueres), who give free passage on boats to as many of the children as are willing. The pilgrims are then either taken to Tunisia, where they are sold into slavery by the merchants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade >The sack of Constantinople occurred in April 1204 and marked the culmination of the Fourth Crusade. Crusader armies captured, looted, and destroyed parts of Constantinople, then the capital of the Byzantine Empire. > 2,000 Greek civilians killed by Crusaders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople >The Massacre of Verden was an event during the Saxon Wars where the Frankish king Charlemagne ordered the death of 4,500 Saxons in October 782. Charlemagne claimed suzerainty over Saxony and in 772 destroyed the Irminsul, an important object in Saxon paganism, during his intermittent thirty-year campaign to Christianize the Saxons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden >The French Wars of Religion were a prolonged period of war and popular unrest between Catholics and Huguenots (Reformed/Calvinist Protestants) in the Kingdom of France between 1562 and 1598. It is estimated that three million people perished in this period from violence, famine, or disease in what is considered the second deadliest religious war in European history (surpassed only by the Thirty Years' War, which took eight million lives) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion >The German Peasants' War, Great Peasants' War or Great Peasants' Revolt (German: Deutscher Bauernkrieg) was a widespread popular revolt in some German-speaking areas in Central Europe from 1524 to 1525. It failed because of intense opposition from the aristocracy, who slaughtered up to 100,000 of the 300,000 poorly armed peasants and farmers >the war consisted of a series of both economic and religious revolts in which peasants and farmers, often supported by Anabaptist clergy, took the lead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War

Schizo theory: the end-goal of Abrahamism is the manifestation of Yahweh on Earth. It doesn't even matter if Yahweh even exists, the jews are going to create him. The end-goal of the jews is the create a super-advanced form of artificial intelligence that will be a man-made God. An all-seeing eye, able to enforce its will and to dominate the entire planet. Social credit is a step towards this, as is mass-surveillance. Either the jews will create an artificial-intelligence with this power, or the Yahweh entity will manifest on Earth in disguised as an AI.

>>5476 Doesn't sound all that Schizo.

>>5476 This isn't schizo, because this is what transhumanism is all about in the first place.

I hate that my parents named me after a character in the bible. Can other goys relate?

>>5482 I’m named after Bible jews as well. I don’t really resent it though. I will make sure my children will have non-jewish names though and hopefully that will be the end of it

>>5153 Intellectually pathetic. The posts that the jannies shoah'd contained very strong arguments that received no response other than an obviously contrived conspiracy theory that no expert on any side of the debate believes in. This only further proves that Christianity is true.

>>5492 I hate to call attention to shill-posting, but this is just so blatantly jewish that it's worth showing everyone. The same guy who is shilling for Christianity ITT is shilling for men to crossdress in defiance of 'arbitrary gender roles' in the Japan thread.

>>5494 lel

>>5513 >Daily reminder that atheists can provide no satisfactory account of how Christianity formed without the resurrection. Your daily reminder is objectively shit, and the alternate hypothesis is in the below book and all over the below blog. https://hojaseliminadas.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/fair-race-15-sep-20.pdf https://chechar.wordpress.com/ The alternative hypothesis is that the jew you worship didn't exist, and that the entirety of the christian psyop was created by the talmud oral tradition following Gamaliel, Paul, Mark and other collaborators considering how easy it is to prove that they literally just copied the Homeric epics to create the story of Jesus. Gamaliel, is to this day considered the greatest Rabbi of all time, basically, with a special title and all.

>>5513 >Daily reminder that atheists can provide no satisfactory account of how Christianity formed without the resurrection. Cannibalism for eternal life. Christians have believed for millennia that they are literally consuming the blood and flesh of Jesus (transubstantiation). This is not a remembrance of the Last Supper, but of the disciples supper made of Jesus himself. This hypothesis is supported by pagan accusations against Christians in multiple sources, it is supported by the words of Jesus himself, and it is a hypothesis which explains where Jesus' body went (the empty tomb) and the fact that the disciples still had faith in Christ following his crucifixion. It explains literally all of the facts. THE CANNIBAL THEORY IS THE ONLY VIABLE THEORY

>>5532 >>5533 Confirmed samefag? You were shitting on Christianity and now you're shilling it. >>1819 >>1822 >>1683

>>5534 Well look at that. Isn’t that interesting!

>>5534 Those posts are from a long time ago, so they're probably not the same person. I'd assume that it's because they're both using Tor/VPN and they ended up with the same exit node.

>>5536 Yeah, uh huh, sure.

>>5534 >Oy vey goy please let me make wild accusations! I hope you don't understand how IPs and Tor work! The shills have multiple different IDs, so they're using Tor. So if a few posters from a month ago also had the same ID, they're probably unrelated (happening to have the same IP address). It has been established that the shill did jump onto Tor after he got IP banned. See >>5136 For all we know, you're the shill trying to confuse the Admins into deleting useful posts. I don't see anything suspicious about the older posts.

>>5538 Calling you out for an obvious samefag isn't jewish. I don't see why there would be any Christian posters on here when this board shits on them 24/7. Own up and admit you were being a massive faggot.

>>5543 Nobody is saying that the Christkike posters aren't kiked. But the growing consensus appears to be that you're a nigger who doesn't know how TOR exit nodes work. Hence why Admin didn't remove the older posts, which have no shilling content and are written in a completely different style to the Christcuck posts.

It’s confirmed to be the Nein shill at this point who is extremely assmad ITT >>5534 >>5537 >>5543 While it’s theoretically possible that it could be the same person, looking at the info provided to me as the BO on posts, the ID in question is tied to a use of Tor. The reason there is an ID is because whoever posted it was not using the onion site

>>5546 If it's a single shill or group of shills who were first on Nein and are now on here, moving from site to site, then I guess there's no NGO/jewish involvement after all. It looks like small scale trolling.

>>5548 There’s no way to really tell. Could be spooks, could be a troll. I find it all fairly amusing either way.

>>5494 Nice, adding this to the pile >>5550 Nice try Eli, have some more

>>5553 >try to be ‘based’ on /pol/ (among the goyim) >act just like Christcucks IRL among themselves What a shocker! Taqiyya is a pan-Abrahamic practice, it turns out.

obvious falseflag

Dr. David Skrbina, author of 'The Jesus Hoax' had an interview with Adam Green. Pretty interesting. https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/Jesus-Hoax-Interview:c

>>5518 >THE CANNIBAL THEORY IS THE ONLY VIABLE THEORY <lookatthisfaggot.jpg Christkikery is nonsense, but there's no basis to support the Cannibal theory, much less to call it the only viable theory. There are many other promising theories, including the cognitive dissonance theory. >This hypothesis is supported by pagan accusations against Christians in multiple sources Look at how you're now calling it a mere hypothesis. If it's just a hypothesis, it's not the only viable theory. These early pagan accusations are salacious nonsense that bear no resemblance to the image of the early Church presented by historical records, such as early church documents. Also, the pagan accusations do not deal with Jesus's body itself, but are instead distorted accounts of the Eucharist. >it is supported by the words of Jesus himself, Nope, it's not. The Eucharist as a symbolic event with bread and wine was established as early as the Pauline epistles. The Bread of Life discourse occurs later on in John 6. Thus, it must be interpreted symbolically in light of the other verses on the Eucharist unless you have extraordinary evidence to support such a strained reading. >it is a hypothesis which explains where Jesus' body went (the empty tomb) Vis-à-vis the empty tomb it's the same as the stolen body theory, since it's simply stolen body + eaten body. By occam's razor, the general stolen body theory is necessarily more likely than a single subset of it (the stolen + eaten body theory) >and the fact that the disciples still had faith in Christ following his crucifixion It doesn't explain this very well. How could they have believed that Jesus had appeared to them alive if his bones were right in front of him and they had eaten him?

>>5565 >It's extremely obvious here that the admins are losing control of the narrative. This thread is barren except for a few evidently schizo theories about how the apostles ate Jesus's body, theories that do not explain the sincerity of the apostles nor the impossibility of mass hallucinations. The kikes literally believed that eating Jesus would give them eternal life. Try again. >In order to protect these failing theories, the admins have to delete the multitude of posts by various users that have successfully discredited anti-Christian nonsense multiple times. <Butt-blasted shills get BTFO'd <Muh "various users" <Hope they don't notice my samefaggery.png Try better next time, schlomo.

>>5567 >If this theory was so certain, why is it that none of the experts, not even the atheist experts, accepts it? The (((experts))) do their (((research))) based on the kiked assumptions of academia, using the kiked data of academia, for the kiked goals of academia. The disagreement between the experts is controlled opposition. No expert would dare to step out of line on, say, the Holocaust. The same goes here. Christian universities literally have their professors sign a statement of belief so that they can't contradict biblical literalism. That's not an environment conducive to the type of free discourse that would expose Christianity for what it is. >why aren't other fascists supporting this theory either? I'm not the same guy as >>5518, so I'd guess that multiple people on this board do support this theory. >It's based on a cartoonish conception of the early Christians as total nutjobs who would cannibalize their own religious leader. This is not bourne out by the lucidity and depth of Christian teaching, which could not be the product of a group of deranged people. <Turn teh other cheek, goy <Substitutionary atonement instead of justice based on responsibility <doubt.png >How did the apostles manage to steal the body in the first place? The jewish counternarrative recounted in Matthew shows that both the jews and Christians presumed that the tomb was guarded. There's no guarantee that Matthew recorded the jewish narrative accurately. Also, many early anti-Christian narratives presumed the truth of part of the Christian narrative because it was a time when people were less skeptical. (c.f. the rumor that roman soldier Pantera was Jesus's father, which still presumes that Joseph was Jesus's father) So it could be that what Matthew recorded was in fact a jewish response to Christian allegations about an empty tomb, without necessarily implying knowledge of the empty tomb. Indeed, it's suspicious that the empty tomb first explicitly appears in Mark. >If the apostles were lying, why were they willing to be persecuted for their own lies? Paul's own letters testify to his persecution! It could be hallucinations. Or it could be like Joseph Smith and the other early Mormon witnesses who were willing to be tarred and feathered. > If the apostles had hallucinations, how did these hallucinations affect multiple people (more than 500?) as recounted by the very early creed in 1 Corinthians 15? The over 500 meme is based on a single verse that's not corroborated anywhere else. For all we know it was a later interpolation, or an errant rumor that made it into Paul's letters. With the mass appearance to 500 gone and the more detailed decriptions of Jesus eating and passing through walls being limited to the later gospels only, hallucinations become a much more plausible explanation.

Notice how angry Christcucks are getting over the cannibal theory. I think this might be an extremely promising theory with great explanatory power. The shills are going ballistic. >>5564 >Vis-à-vis the empty tomb it's the same as the stolen body theory, since it's simply stolen body + eaten body. By occam's razor, the general stolen body theory is necessarily more likely than a single subset of it (the stolen + eaten body theory) Obviously it's similar to the stolen body hypothesis in some respects, but it's also very different if you think about it. The stolen body hypothesis relies on the idea that the disciples were doing this out of 'pious deceit'. The cannibal hypothesis has much greater explanatory power in that it explains why the body was taken from the tomb, and that the disciples were in earnest carrying out the commands of their rabbi. There was no deceit! Occam's razor doesn't apply, as we are not unnecessarily positing things that are unneeded. The cannibal theory is supported by scripture, explains why the body would even disappear, and explains the continued faith of the closest followers of Jesus even in the event of his crucifixion and death. >It doesn't explain this very well. How could they have believed that Jesus had appeared to them alive if his bones were right in front of him and they had eaten him? That's because you're thinking like a retarded materialist who believes he is only is body. The rest of your points are irrelevant, because the theory ultimately does not rest on whether the average Christian was consuming the literal flesh and blood of babies or anything. I would not count it out though, as I have not completely researched it yet. This theory will need to be developed, especially seeing how much anger it is arousing in Christcucks. In J. Plescia's article on the persecution of early Christians, he makes it clear how much hatred for the human race Christians were seen to have: <Now, the Christians were considered as a very zealous sect of Judaism. The charges moved against the jews, in general, fell upon the Christians with the aggravation of, shall we say, fanaticism. Thus, the charge of atheism was more grievous against the Christians than it was against the jews, because while these had at least some sacrifices, the Christians had none ; similarly in regard to misanthropy. The Christians, furthermore, shunned festivals, public games and public religious holidays. the Christians were more reserved than the jews. In short, they were seen as even more radical and dangerous jews by the pagan Romans. Knowing how jews throughout history have kidnapped gentile children, mutilated them and drank their blood, it would not be impossible for Christians to have done the same thing in some cases against the Rome they so hated and despised. THE DISCIPLES CONSUMED THE FLESH AND BLOOD OF THEIR RABBI YESHUA EUCHARIST IS RITUAL CANNIBALISM

>>5494 hahahahahah holy shit

While watching this thread, I saw a bunch of samefagging shills trying to call the board owner a kike, only to be promptly deleted a few seconds later. Could the board owner help shed some light on why this might be happening?

>>5584 >why are shills being deleted for samefagging and falseflagging Gee I wonder why

>>5584 BO literally explained what type of kike trickery was going on a few posts above. Now go crying for your crossdressing ass being banned and deleted somewhere else, disgusting well poisoner. P.S. BO, remember when I told you the shills would have tried to spread discord between you and anons trying to frame you as dishonest? Well here they are, still angry for not being able to effectively ruin this community. Keep up the good work, BO.

>>5569 my understanding of the Last Supper and Communion is that the bread & wine represents Jesus' flesh and blood, and through transubtantiation, symbolically becomes equivalent. if the Disciples cannibalized Jesus' body, that would be taking the doctrine literally. this is a really interesting theory.

>>5611 >my understanding of the Last Supper and Communion is that the bread & wine represents Jesus' flesh and blood, and through transubtantiation, symbolically becomes equivalent. This is the thing though, the 'symbolic' interpretation of the Eucharist is not the one that was present in the early church from what I can see. Transubstantiation is apparently something very specific, i.e. the doctrine holding that the bread and wine of the Eucharist are literally transformed into the body and blood of Jesus. There is often talk of the 'real presence' of Jesus in it, and stuff. For example we can see Augustine say: <The faithful understand what I am saying; they know Christ in the breaking of bread. For, not all bread, but only that which receives the blessing of Christ becomes the Body of Christ. https://archive.org/details/fathersofthechur009512mbp/page/n247/mode/2up?q=becomes John of Damascus: <the bread itself and the wine are changed into God’s body and blood <just as in nature the bread by the eating and the wine and the water by the drinking are changed into the body and blood of the eater and drinker, and do not become a different body from the former one, so the bread of the table and the wine and water are supernaturally changed by the invocation and presence of the Holy Spirit into the body and blood of Christ, and are not two but one and the same. https://ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf209/npnf209.iii.iv.iv.xiii.html Justin Martyr: <we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God's Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus." http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html That link above contains many similar quotes Tertullian: <Then, having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, He made it His own body, by saying, "This is my body," that is, the figure of my body. A figure, however, there could not have been, unless there were first a veritable body https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/03124.htm Here is what happened later though: <During the Protestant Reformation, the doctrine of transubstantiation was heavily criticised as an Aristotelian "pseudophilosophy"[35] imported into Christian teaching and jettisoned in favor of Martin Luther's doctrine of sacramental union, or in favor, per Huldrych Zwingli, of the Eucharist as memorial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation >if the Disciples cannibalized Jesus' body, that would be taking the doctrine literally. And given the fact that most of the evidence even from a quick search seems to confirm that the earliest major figures in the church indeed believed that the bread and wine somehow transformed into the bread and blood of Jesus when blessed, it is not a huge stretch to believe that at one point, i.e. the apparent climax of the entire life of Jesus, his crucifixion, that there was once a Eucharist that literally consumed his blood and flesh.

METHODS OF SUPPRESSING CHRISTIANITY IN JAPAN Active and sustained government suppression of Christianity in Japan during the Tokugawa period dates from 1612 until the end of the 1630s. In less than a half century, Christianity was effectively annihilated in Japan due to the ingenious tactics of the Shogunate. It really goes to show how deadly the threat of Abrahamism seemed to a culture that had not come intact with desert religions prior to the 1540s. An official ban on Christianity was first proclaimed in April 1612, but the active policy of suppression was to begin two years later when the shogun appointed a Grand Anti-Christian Inquisitor (Tsuihō sōbugyō 追放総奉行) Ōkubo Tadachika before he was immediately dispatched to Kyoto, where upon arriving he had the churches destroyed and the Catholic priests sent to Nagasaki for exile. More importantly, Ōkubo launched a grand scale movement described as ‘Christian revision’ (kirishitan aratame キリシタン改め). The document Bateren tsuihō no fumi that began the persecution in earnest announced the general destruction of Christianity in these words: <Japan, land of the Gods and the Buddhas, reveres the Gods, respects the Buddhas, fulfils the Way of Benevolence and Justice, and implements the laws of good and evil. [...] Those Christian Priests and their party all oppose the articles of the law. They hate and doubt the Way of the Gods, they ridicule the True Law [Buddhist Dharma], they discard Justice and ruin Goodness. They look at the example of a criminal [Jesus], and become excited, blindly running after him. They themselves pray to him and offer him sacrifice. This is what they take as the object of reverence and salvation in their religion! How is this not heresy? In fact, it is the enemy of the Gods and the enemy of the Buddhas. Crucially, and presciently, the document states: <If we do not swiftly prohibit it now, then in the future the nation will suffer. We must enact the law. If we do not control it, then we invite the punishment of Heaven. Without rest, we must swiftly sweep it from all the territories and lands of the Japanese state. One tactic of the revision that was used to suppress Christianity was the temple registration system (danka seido 檀家制度). This system morphed into an institutionalized system of social control over the entire Japanese population, continuing until the late 19th century. Japanese people of all classes were required to register with a Buddhist temple or Shinto shrine. Practices such as fumi-e (踏絵) were also introduced, requiring villagers suspected of Christainity to tread on crosses and likenesses of the Virgin Mary in order to demonstrate their non-Christian credentials and loyalty. Eventually, the Christian problem was judged so severe that in 1635 the Sakoku Edict had to be issued by shogun Tokugawa Iemitsu, quite literally quarantining Japan from the outside world until 1854, over two hundred years later. Japanese people were not permitted to leave the country. Anyone who left, or anyone who left and came back were killed. Europeans entering illegally would also be killed. Christianity was again forbidden, people were encourged to report Christians to the government, and Christians were tortured and executed upon discovery. Even this could not end the problem completely. Christians began to revolt in 1637 in what would be called the Shimabara Rebellion. Catholic peasants began to resist the Tokugawa Shogunate, and were almost completely exterminated after they holed themselves up in Hara Castle. The leader of the rebellion and an estimated 37,000+ rebels were beheaded, and Christianity ceased to be a problem for centuries. Thus the basic ways to destroy Abrahamism for Japan were: >prohibit the religion >centralize the suppression methods >control the population >require religious tests like fumi-e >isolate the country from the influence of the religion >encourage the population to rat out Christians >kill those who resist Much to learn here. Part two will go over Japanese responses to Christianity.

Suzuki Shōsan’s Hakirishitan (Smash the Christians) Beginning by agreeing that Shinto and Buddhism represent the traditional customs of Japan, Shōsan moves on to argue that traditions of political society, and the order that emerges from them, are elements of nature: <The one Buddha of thusness (shinnyo 真如, the nature of reality) transforms and is then accepted into the minds of men. So the mind [of men] which respects and reveres the gods is [also] transmitting this one Buddha. For instance, respecting and revering the sovereign, beginning with the vassals and ministers, step by step down to the local officials and then to the peasants, this respect of each relevant official at each level is the ordained Law [Dharma of the Buddha]. This is the righteousness of each person respecting one person above them. How can teachings like Christianity, which posit just one person above [all] to respect, using no subordinates [as representatives], be considered correct? Here Shōsan argues that the current political order is ‘originated by the gods and transmitted down through the traditions of this country’, and that thereby through tradition and custom, the ‘one Buddha of thusness’, the mind of current existence, is (should be) linked to the political order. Between above and below, between the gods and the people, social custom and the political order stand as mediators. The major point of Shōsan’s criticism is that in Christian teachings this level of demarcated step-by-step mediation does not exist. The Christians, in Shōsan’s view, by ignoring the ordained nature of political custom transmitted through tradition, thereby ignore the nature of reality (shinnyo 真如) <The Buddha of their country [Christ of the European countries] is not a Buddha. It has no history and no divine virtues. Its crimes are terrible. The punishments of Heaven, the Buddha, the gods and of man must all be visited upon them. Every one of them [the Christians] needs to be strung up and killed. NEO-CONFUCIAN PHILOSOPHER HAYASHI RAZAN'S ATTACKS ON FOREIGN RELIGIOUS SUBVERRSION Christianity has no ethical system, and is harmful to a harmonious, filial society: <They just say to serve God well and not go against duty. This is why it is not difficult for them to turn on their sovereigns and fathers by using God. Their [regard for] God is deep, and [for their] sovereigns and fathers shallow. So then what is this God? It is sorcery! It is disorder! ... This is how regicide and patricide come to pass. Read this in conjunction with Matthew 10:34-38 where Jesus preaches that his teachings will disrupt the family unit, the most fundamental building block of all societies. BUDDHIST NUN SOSHIN EXPOSES THE CORE OF CHRISTIANITY Christianity spreads when governments are not benevolent, it will not spread under a benevolent government and healthy civilization: <Christianity spreads because of the confusion in peoples’ heart/minds, and the hardships of the masses. If the teachings of the civilized world prevail, then the confusion in peoples’ minds/hearts will be resolved, benevolent governance will alleviate the hardships of the masses, and it [Christianity] will not be able to spread. ... The proof of this can be seen in China, the land of the sages. If you have civilization, then even with no forcible prohibition, it is not able to spread. AIZAWA SEISHISAI ON THE MASSES AND SIMPLE-MINDED NATURE OF CHRISTIANITY <This, their [the Western barbarians’] so-called religious doctrine [Christianity], is both shallow and evil, and at its core not worthy of even discussing. However, its basis is simplistic, its vocabulary is vulgar, and that is why it easily beguiles the masses. With pretty words it pretends to respect Heaven by forcing [meaning on] Heaven. It pretends to represent human ethical enlightenment by forsaking the Way of humanity. <In order to weaken the effect of the sovereign’s commands on our common people, in other words in order to ‘subdue the enemy without resorting to battle’, they employ the barbarian creed [Christianity] to entice our common people. In other words this is the policy [by which they achieve] ‘the best outcome of taking the country in its entirety It appears that the Japanese people realized that Christianity was a religion that appealed to the sentiments of the herd, of the lower classes, to subhumans, weakening them, allowing them to be overtaken. The criticisms of modern pagans have echoes all throughout the past. Never let Christians trick you. These criticisms are centuries old.

>>5622 yes, it makes sense. especially given these lines: <26 And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body. <27 And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this. <28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins. >>5636 I've posted before on Japan's admirable stand against Christianity, one of the few times in history the forces of Abrahamism were defeated. being so tenacious, it survived underground among the Kakure Kirishitans (hidden Christians), but it was marginalized and neutralized as a threat to the Japanese nation, so it was still a decisive victory. to this day, Buddhism & Shinto predominate there.

>>5645 >especially given these lines: <which shall be shed That's the particularly interesting line to me. The blood will be shed. John 6 <Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” <Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. This part of John too says that many of his disciples were disgusted by this teaching and left: <66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. The commendable actions of the Tokugawa Shogunate really show where Rome fell short in its effort. I guess there is a question with Rome whether they ever could have removed completely the influence of Christianity. There were far too many jews in the Empire, living in crucial points and the biggest cities. Already having been exposed to jewish influence for centuries, they had gotten used to a subtle undercurrent of it. In Japan they felt the full-on nature of this type of religion instantly, having only been exposed to their ethnic tradition and dharmic traditions like Buddhism before. They saw immediately that it was evil. Though it is unfortunate that numbers of them were to remain hidden afterwards, but like you said, over all it was a job well done, because even today Japan is hardly even 1% Christcuck. The real problem with Japan spiritually-speaking today though is that many Japanese people are very ignorant about the own traditions of their people, almost extremely so. It also doesn't help that the government has not restored its association with Shinto, but I doubt that will happen again unless there are big changes.

>>5653 the problem with Rome is that it was too accustomed to adopting and absorbing local traditions and cultures into its larger milieu. they saw the jews as just another sect, albeit one with special needs. the jews also had great regard for their Law, which the Romans respected initially. it was only after the Bar Khokba revolt that the Romans dealt with the jews severely, and by then it was too late -- Judaism survived in its Rabbinic form. likewise, the Romans saw Christianity as just another mystery cult, an offshoot of Judaism, and the only reasons they persecuted Christians at all is because they refused to worship the emperor, and because they met in secret. they did not suppress it thoroughly, so it was only a matter of time before they got subverted. >The real problem with Japan spiritually-speaking today though is that many Japanese people are very ignorant about the own traditions of their people, almost extremely so. It also doesn't help that the government has not restored its association with Shinto, but I doubt that will happen again unless there are big changes. I'd chalk this up to cultural changes post WWII. Japan remains based, but it's not free from infection.

>>5666 (check'd) Yeah I can't really blame them for not seeing the danger. We are dealing with two millennia or more of hindsight here, while the Romans didn't have really any of this, not to mention that like you said they were often a bit naive in their cosmopolitanism and leniency towards other cultures. It's really comparable to some sort of aggressive cancer. They didn't realize that they were on their death-bed until it was too late with the jews. You can't operate with the same standards when it comes to Abrahamics, that we know now. It's either 'killing fields' mode or you yourself are overcome. >I'd chalk this up to cultural changes post WWII. Japan remains based, but it's not free from infection. Definitely. If one looks into it they will see that after 1945 when the ZOG occupiers forced the Japanese to separate the state from Shinto that there was an explosion in 'New Religions'. Some of these had already existed, some of them tolerated, some of them persecuted, but they really took off after the war. The reason things like Aum Shinrikyō exist is because Japan is spiritually dead inside. It's just a wagecuck island that has been castrated by modernity. Mishima saw this as far back as the late 1960s. Many of the people joining Aum had these exact criticisms. Even today we see weird shit like Pana Wave and Happy Science popping up there. The latter is funny because the leader is extremely redpilled about communists though

>>1395 Somewhere here I saw a list of Nazi generals that converted to Islam in order to hide from the (((Allies))), does anyone have a screencap of it? Not advocating for sandniggerism btw.

>>5695 Here you go: >>3803 >>3818 >>3819

>>5679 their cosmopolitan approach worked for most cultures they encountered, and the Romans figured jews and Christians would be no different. by the time they realized they were dealing with AIDS, it was too late. and yes, having a long history to look back on does clarify many things. >It's just a wagecuck island that has been castrated by modernity. the rise of new religious movements/cults has alot to do with this. but more than that, the Japanese had a traditional work ethic in which they'd apply themselves to a do/tao/way to make a living. whether crafting swords, architecture, etc. they'd be in a career in which they could spend their life honing their skills and accomplishing more. in this way, they could work hard while also being fulfilled. when ZOG took over, it redirected this ethic towards vacuous, tedious work that served its interests. having been corrupted, this made work life very unfulfilling, which led to the suicides, hikkikomori, escapism, and sense of drift and meaningless that's common there and shows up in their media. with that said, the poz is not as severe there as it is in parts of the West. Japan isn't a lost cause, as some demoralization shills claim, but it's still affected by the post-1945 decline.

>>5698 Japan is definitely better off than the West, that's for sure. There are many problems there, obviously, but at present it's not even a tenth of what we face in the West. As long as they are not hit by full replacement-immigration they will stay a lot better off too, though I think that is the eventual plan for them based on some stuff I've seen. Regeneration will be easier there, I think.

>>5771 >So if you admit that the pro-Christcuck shills are not all niggerrick, and agree that there's smoking gun evidence in favour of this, why do you support Board Ownbama in deleting posts that point this out? Because the posts pointing it out are evidently intended to distract the attention completely away from niggerrick. So what if Spicrick has a Chinkrick partner? It shouldn't be used to exonerate Spicrick.

>>5772 Stop responding to this clown

>>5769 >Anyone else come to the realization that Christianity in it's inception may have not been a bad thing? Maybe, but throughout all the centuries with everyone from Paul to the Popes to Luther to modern Evangelical theologians and pressure groups, I doubt that any trace of the original Christianity could be restored. Plus, the original jewish Christian community was an insular cult by jews for jews.

>>5765 pretty much this. good to see the shills getting mopped up. btw, Free Speech is a poorly understood concept. it means you have the right to express yourself in society, as long as you're not violating anyone else's rights. when it comes to deplatforming/banning, it's a scalar issue. large-scale deplatforming violates free speech, while small-scale deplatforming does not. that's because the owner of the platform (in this case BO) has the right to run their platform as they see fit. this right generally supersedes Free Speech, unless the platform is large enough to be significant to civil discourse. just wanted to shed light on this topic, since bringing up free speech is a common tactic for those whose posts are rightfully deleted.

>>5699 Wow, he's even rubbing his hands.

>>5784 Worth noting too that this guy was appointed by so-called 'nationalists' in Japan. He was appointed under Abe, who people liked to cry about for being part of Nippon Kaigi, and he remains under the new PM Yoshihide Suga, who is also a member of Nippon Kaigi. This is what Wikipedia says about Nippon Kaigi: <The Nippon Kaigi (日本会議, "Japan Conference") is Japan’s largest ultranationalist, far-right non-governmental organization and lobby. It was established in 1997 and has approximately 40,000 members Yet anyone in government affiliated with it are total Zionists and pro-mass immigration. They are a joke

>>5786 That sounds just like the John Birch Society, the controlled opposition organization that existed to reel in potential dissidents and neuter them.

>>5790 That’s basically what it is. Unfortunately all of the real radical alternatives in Japan seem extremely small or not making any real moves towards anything.

>>5786 >Yet anyone in government affiliated with it are total Zionists and pro-mass immigration. They are a joke "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" - Vladimir Lenin

>>1435 Higher res version

Unfortunately, while the jewish Question revolves around removing or eliminating an alien race, the Christian Question involves our racial kinsmen, often members of our own family. In fact, many of us were likely once Christian. In the logic of "traitors before enemies," Christianity should be dealt with first, as it is spiritual race treason, yet so many Whites are entrenched in Christianity, and jews used this to their advantages, playing Christianized Aryans against de-Christianized Aryans. Christianity, in small measure, also serves as a defense against degeneracy (though this shielding is quickly failing, indeed meant to fail), and, without it, many White Christians would fall into despair and slavery to pleasure-highs to fill that void. I think the answer is a new religion. Otherwise they will either stay Christian and pervert nationalism with "Whites are the real Israelites" nonsense or inject racialism into old European religions where before it didn't really exist. One could hardly say ancient Germanic paganism was a White religion, just a religion practiced by Whites. Reviving ancient national faiths is a temporary fix, as Abrahamism is what usurped those faiths in the first place, and it doesn't unite Whites, save by occasional, often contradictory cognate characters and practices.

>>6010 Very good analysis. I have reached similar conclusions, especially when it comes to the fact that though Christianity is absolutely a foreign jewish mind-virus, to deprogram one from Christianity without a proper alternative is dangerous and undesirable, given that they would default to materialism / hedonism / nihilism / leftism before anything else, as you say. Here's where I'll disagree with you though. There are absolutely the foundations for racialism in many of the Aryan religious traditions. In some places this has been obscured more than in others due to the fact that these religions were operating with an oral tradition in an area where there was not really multiracialism. Needless to say, if you're living in an area with no non-Whites for hundreds and hundreds of generations, the racial aspects of the tradition will be given less relevance. For Germanic paganism in particularly, look at things like the Rígsþula, where Heimdallr / Rig becomes the progenitor of the three classes. The Thralls, or the serf / slave caste are explicitly described as dark, swarthy and ugly. The Churl was described as more ruddy and with sparkling eyes. The Jarl born in the story has fair locks of hair and fair cheeks. https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/rig.html This is basically an exact reflection of the Indo-European trifuncional social system (which evolved to a quadrifunctional system on the Indian subcontinent to deal with the large non-White slave caste). There are so many similarities in the basic worldview of pre-Abrahamic pagans that one cannot help but wonder what true core there may be there. By this I mean: >divinely-ordained caste system >polytheism or qualified monotheism >importance of sacrifices to the gods >importance of hospitality / guest-right >the doctrine of the four ages >stress on purity versus impurity >the concept of a cosmic order >human descent from the gods >no distinction between religion and daily life Now from this however, we can't say which exact tradition is the closest approximation of truth. It may be that many of the traditions have become garbled over the millennia as contact with the originating source was lost or forgotten. I tend to believe a version of perennialism wherein the Aryan religions (and likely some outside of this fold) are founded one the same metaphysical truths expressed in different contexts and cultures. New life needs to be breathed into these traditions. I don't think they'll be exactly the same as in the past, but they will be far more similar than not in some respects.

Epiphanius reports that certain gnostic Christians believed that Jesus took the prostitute Mary Magdelene to the top of a mountain, created a woman from his side, fucked it and consumed the semen produced, and that this was to be done to live. A literal cum-eating rabbi http://earlychristianwritings.com/questionsmary.html >in the so-called 'Greater Questions of Mary'—there are also 'Lesser' ones forged by them—they claim that he reveals it to her after taking her aside on the mountain, praying, producing a woman from his side, beginning to have sex with her, and then partaking of his emission, if you please, to show that 'Thus we must do, that we may live.' >And when Mary was alarmed and fell to the ground, he raised her up and said to her, 'O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?'

>>5866 Where the hell has this been?

>>5866 Same nonsense with the Taliban government. They are so called "Pashtun nationalists" yet they have no issue destroying historical pre-Islamic statues of the entire Iranian race and in turn imposing an Arab religion among the masses. The Afghans don't like communism, they don't like democracy, but they sure love their Arab imperialism. When will Arabs have to pay for repariations for their colonisation efforts?

>>6998 It's also especially sad in Afghanistan for me because Afghanistan has such a rich history of Dharmic religions - Buddhist, Hindu and Jain alike. I have read that some remote regions were only Abrahamized by force in the late 19th century too. Assuming you are Iranian / Persian in some sense, are there many people among them who are aware of the problem of Islam and Abrahamic religions in general? It would be interesting to see a Zoroastrian revival.

>>6999 The nationalistic component allows Persians to think outside the box. Most Iranians who (legally!) come to the West are quick to adopt Western values. As for Tajiks, another Iranian group, they are incredibly aware of Islam's problems due in part of Soviet atheistic influence and the civil war in 1992 that would've turned their country into the next Afghanistan if they had lost. In fact, Tajikistan even has their own section under 'Persecution of Muslims'. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims#Tajikistan Pashtuns took a complete 180 and have become dogs for the Arabs. Shameful. I would be interested in seeing a revival of Zoroastrianism or ancient Iranian paganism. The only reason the "Islamic Revolution" happened was because dumbass communists and liberals ousted the Shah because SHAHBAD.exe, and the Islamists took advantage of the power vaccum (with Jimmy Carter's support). That, and also because Iran has a lot of ethnic miniorities who probably were communists fearful of the Shah's fascist policies. (Rastakhiz Party, the ruling party of Iran prior to 1979, was considered to be a fascist party similar to that of Italy and Spain. So, stop fascism by supporting the Islamists, just like stop fascism by supporting the communists...that'll end well...always does... /s). P.S Nuristan (meaning Land of the Enlightened) was a remote region in Afghanistan which was previously known as Kaffiristan (Land of the Disbelivers) prior tht conversion of Islam. I believe they were located upon a steel hill making it difficult for the Muslims to get up there at first. The Nuristanis are described as Indo-Aryans, basically the actual type of Indians people think of when one talks about the Aryan race spreading across India, rather than Panjeet in his IT centre "we wuz Aryans n shieet!")

>>6999 >>7006 Although, it's ironic that the Nuristanis were seen as 'disbelievers' for following a religion true to the homeland and only after they adopted an Arab religion after many tries, now they are "enlightened!" How come Muslims don't like DIVERSITEH want they're the ones doing the colonising?

>>7006 >I would be interested in seeing a revival of Zoroastrianism or ancient Iranian paganism. Hopefully interest in this will start rising in the coming decades. The Persians seem to be in a very similar situation to Europeans. We are lucky enough here in the West to not live under an Abrahamic theocracy, at the very least. It would not surprise me at all if certain Persians were to dig into their past that they would see the Abrahamic malware that has been installed in the minds of their people, much as many have done in Europe and North America today. If / when the West finally puts an end to Abrahamism, we can hope that this will be a powerful impetus for pagans all across the globe. That former situation in Nuristan seems very similar to the plight of the Kalash people in Pakistan today. Not only are many of them very light-skinned, but even today they maintained their ethnic religion and still worship old gods such as Indra. Unsurprisingly the Muslims have persecuted them and tried to force them to convert. Luckily because they live in such a remote mountainous region and view Muslims as being impure, they have held off the Abrahamic tide so far.

>>7009 Abrahamists always operate under the guise of ‘enlightening the ignorant’. Of course their supposed gnosis is really agnosis. True purveyors of truth are always exterminated to the last man. It’s all part of the advance of Jewish-led civilization, even if the Abrahamic golems themselves are ignorant of this. Abrahamism destroys Völkisch bonds and traditions and replaces them with cookie-cutter practices, universalism and worship of the false god Yahweh. Diverse approaches to spiritual truths must be replaced with ‘the one way™’.

>>5291 >>5293 >>5301 Chapter 1 can be found on Skrbina's website (scroll down on the link). I am going to be buying the book next week, I'll be scanning. https://www.jesushoax.com/

Atheism Considered as a Christian Sect I am unable to post the PDF since I can only find it in JSTOR and reading it slaps my IP right on the bottom when I log in through the institution I go to, so I am stuck to posting excerpts. >Atheists in general need share no particular political or metaphysical views, but atheists of the most modern, Western, militant sort, escaping from a merely nihilistic mind-set, are usually humanists of an especially triumphalist kind. In this paper I offer a critical analysis and partial history of their claims, suggesting that they are members of a distinctively Christian heretical sect, formed in reaction to equally heretical forms of monotheistic idolatry >Those who don't believe in, or don't worship, the gods of a particular tribe may still have gods, ideals and rituals of their own. So 'atheism in the abstract' is not my chief concern: what can be said of modern Western atheism , especially as it is presented by its modern publicists and their followers in the online commentariat? What is it that they are opposing, and what does their opposition - both its content and its manner - reveal about their own commitments and priorities? >Atheistical critics, especially the most vociferous, are, I suggest, motivated by a passionate attachment to ideas of truth and justice that depend historically and logically on mainstream Abrahamic theism - perhaps especially its Christian variety. What they reject in the mainstream, openly theistical, churches is idolatry: the easy beliefs that we are all right as we are, that prosperity is a sign of holiness, that we can change the world to our fancy merely by redescribing it. The very God they reject, the god of a decadent theism, is not the God of the Gospels or the Hebrew Scriptures. The demand that we be 'objective' is, exactly, a mo >Modern atheists who have absorbed ideas from the Christian and more generally Abrahamic tradition have too often absorbed a proud conviction that they are so much in the right as never to need to listen to any 'unbeliever'. They have also inherited a strange combination of ideas: on the one hand, the ultimate cause and context of all things is infinite and incomprehensible; on the other, human intelligence can be expected to be raised so far as to speak and act for all things, but perhaps on the condition that it abandons or transforms its own 'primitive' or 'animal' nature. This is what marks such atheism as a specifically Christian heresy, of a kind that would not easily arise even in other Abrahamic traditions, let alone Hindu or Chinese. https://www.jstor.org/stable/44015159

>>4838 Yes, that's exactly it! Dumb bastards had made a pact with the devil itself thousands of years ago and now we'll still have to deal with this shit.

>>4838 >>7265 This is all even more interesting when paired with the dragon theory. Yahweh was quite literally a fire-breathing dragon, or close enough to one where descriptions of him in that form are preserved in the Old Testament. I had not heard of this theory until recently but it is almost indisputable once one looks at it.

>>7294 >Yahweh was quite literally a fire-breathing dragon, or close enough to one where descriptions of him in that form are preserved in the Old Testament. Looking back at the story of Genesis, is it not farfetched to think that the serpent might have been Yahwen itself? And then there is that small detail regarding the disctintion between 'El' and 'YHWH' always present in old Hebrew transcripts of the Old Testament...

>>7316 This might be something that might be worth looking into, but it might take a good deal of cross-reference from other Semitic religions in order to draw any hard conclusions. The Bible is extremely corrupted at this point. What is worth pointing out though is that up to Genesis 2:4 we never see the term Yahweh, indeed we are given a completely different account of creation up to that point and it is all ascribed to the work of Elohim / God. In Genesis 2:4 we have an alternative account of the creation of the Earth and of Adam and Eve. It goes slightly differently, and it is ascribed here to 'the LORD God', i.e. in the original Hebrew 'Yahweh elohim'. So some how these two have gotten mixed into the Biblical canon together and were later taken as a unit in a book despite having discrepancies and the introduction of this proper name Yahweh. In fact the entire section of Genesis 2 and 3 is all about Yahweh. It is under him that the serpent entices Eve to get her and her husband to eat the fruit. My theory right now (before further research) is that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2:1-3 are the original story of creation under Elohim (i.e. probably El). The other story is the story of Yahweh. This is why it might be hard to say the snake is Yahweh. It still seems like the gnostic interpretation of the events may be the most easily understood. But it might even be possible that these fucking jewish scribes just threw together two accounts and stuck in the name 'Yahweh' before every occurrence of the term 'Elohim' in Genesis 2:4 to the end of Genesis 3 for the Eden account. This is unfortunately one of the most subverted books on the planet.