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What are your thoughts on Patriot Front? NiggerNonRespector 12/09/2021 (Thu) 17:36:54 ID:c437f4 No. 19288
I see everyone calling them fed, but I know for a fact that they are not. What are your thoughts on PF, and on the march?
>everyone You mean 4chan, reddit, and Twitter?
>>19288 Its not practical IMO. I can't say for sure if it's a fedgov honeypot, it might be, and they probably are infiltrated, which is inevitable, but the bigger problem is that it's too direct, and alienates easily more than 40% of the country. The real goal should be creating decentralized and unrelated groups that share a similar ideology, the ideology that everyone has the right to self determination for each identity-group. White people need to restore the fabric of their communities organically, and separate from judeochristianity, judeomasonry, and corporate network news narratives. Being pro White doesn't have to include being anti-everyone-else. Its just that pro-White causes should take precedent for White people. Unfortunately a lot of ethno-nationalists are really just hateful cowardly fucked up people who seek the approval of a group of equally hateful cowardly fucked up people. Mysteriously, these groups inevitably succumb to bad-jacketing, infighting and eventually implode... Who would have thought intolerant people are bad at maintaining groups? There are non-Whites that support nat-soc and would like to see the U.S. remain majority White. I never claim to have all the answers but I do see this as feasible... Some type of autonomous reservation system where territory grows based on GDP could be implemented, with mixed economic zones everyone can participate in. White schools should still be a thing and not only for wealthy Whites. And black schools / hispanic schools would be a good idea too, as each respective culture should be embraced and curriculum tailored accordingly. I can't help but wonder if the issue of racial homogeneity falls back to usurious / unconstitutional fractional reserve banking policies. Without sound money, the game is rigged from the start in favor of banks and corporations, against ethnicities and nations. Intermediate groups could reach a broader audience. Patriot Front is an understandable knee jerk reaction that ultimately will never gain majority support or approval among Whites. The main obstacle is money, followed closely by networks. Without a parallel payment processing network, any actors opposed to the official judeo-masonic-corporate narratives will be de-platformed. Without the ability to reach, influence, and maintain a broad network / audience, these movements can never become mainstream and can be used as a tool against the very people they claim to support.
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>>19288 Unironically only feds and their golems are calling them feds. I support Patriot Front wholeheartedly. Alongside the NJP, they are the only group doing actual good on-the-ground work right now and aren't making themselves look like total asses. The popularity of the 'glowie' meme was actually bolstered by feds in order to attack White Nationalists who actually attempt to do something and not just LARP. Notice how they always attack the best and most professional-looking groups while cheering on Sephardic spics like Nick Fuentes. Some interviews with Thomas Rousseau: https://www.bitchute.com/video/D7vagUHBHJLZ/ (Keith Woods) https://www.bitchute.com/video/70964pFkhDld/ (Cultured Thug)
They're not feds but they will never achieve their pipe dream of reclaiming the entirety of the US. There are about 100 million muds here already so only viable option is seizing a homogeneous region of the US (NW, NE, etc.) in the event of a societal breakdown.
>>19310 > actual good on-the-ground work Walking around like dasher, dancer, prance, et al with a flag over your face does not equate to 'on-the-ground' work in any sane world. Plus, if they were an ACTUAL THREAT, you would never hear a peep of them on MSM or twitter or anywhere as they would be memoryholed *stat*.They are LARPing and if they aren't feds - they'll be dead soon. Nothing 'respectable' about that at all. Give me a close group of 3 men that video the beheading of a couple of CDC muckety mucks and/or CNN niggers and you'll see what respectable looks like. Once this kind of action starts - and it WILL start at some point - things will begin to accelerate nicely.
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>>19288 (heil'd) >What are your thoughts on PF, and on the march? IRL Fascism Thread >>18959 >>18966 /fng/ Fascist News General #2 >>18952 >>18986 Patriot Front: >>>/pol/48529 >>>/pol/52330 >>>/pol/52331 >I see everyone calling them fed, but I know for a fact that they are not. Too bad you didn't elaborate, that would have made a better OP
>>19301 >There are non-Whites that support nat-soc and would like to see the U.S. remain majority White. Oh, how magnanimous of you.
>>19321 They have good optics, they show strength and discipline, and they are spreading propaganda wherever they go. I've even seen their propaganda IRL. I can't say that for other WN groups. Patriot Front is the cutting edge of White Nationalism at this point of time. The Jews hate them. Acting like some sort of retarded Islamist isn't going to do shit, read Mein Kampf, and learn.
What's their goal because if they have no plans set for WROL they seem pretty useless.
>>19344 Trump's campaign was entirely staffed and funded by jews.
>>19335 >retarded Islamist I don't know any, but I believe that they hate jews as much as I do so that leaves them with a leg up in my book. >>19335 >read Mein Kampf I have. Many times. Many, many times. Only a literal jew would suggest that the same approach to jews would work today?
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>>19345 I know. I was making a point to the PF fag. Trump sucks more jew cock than any 'president' in history. Pic related.
>>19347 >I was making a point to the PF fag. Whatever you point you think you're making, you're not.
>>19348 >Whatever you point you think you're making, you're not. 'I'm not smart enough to understand what you said so you didn't say anything'. nanananafufu
>>19349 You're trying to push the narrative that jews "hated Trump", when they never did. Trump was a jew operation from day one -- and day one was all the way back at Resorts International.
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>>19344 The Jews didn't hate Trump though, and we both know this. Look away from the Jewish puppet show and look at reality. PF is doing nothing bad. I'm not telling everyone to go and recklessly join them and expose their identities or anything foolish like that. I find though that the countersignaling against PF going on right now to be very suspicious though. PF has done lots of marches, but the shilling against them has never been stronger than it has the last week. This is because I think they're getting a little nervous. Not because PF is about to take over America or anything silly like that, but because the Jews don't want any pro-White group looking professional and good, because they don't have any way to easily make them look bad. Leftists literally destroy things and assault people all the time, and every leftist openly and proudly supports their actions, but when a pro-White group does anything, even benign as walking in a march, people online immediately yell 'FED'. This is a coward's attitude. Pierce pointed this out too. The 'right' is full of cowards.
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There's tons of proof that Trump was a shabbos goy pedophile who hung out with Epstein. Not the same with Patriot Front.
>>19364 Read Siege, I can tell you haven't just from how you speak, there is no "shilling" against PF, it's just me, long-time contributer, ethnoglober, fanatical anti-christain, sick of watching PF and all the other useless "professional" looking organizations, and how they pull in young men with radical talk and aesthetics only to burn them out or de-rad them.
>>19371 >it's just me, long-time contributer, ethnoglober, fanatical anti-christain So you're so 'le radical' that no group is good enough for you and you probably have never contributed anything of value to White Nationalism other than posting 'REED SEEJ" online. Groups like PF will be the ones actually making history.
>>19364 >This is because I think they're getting a little nervous. It's the nigger terror attack in Waukesha layered over the grave weakness of the American empire.
>>19373 Hitler is laughing at you, as is Pierce. Patriot Front will be nothing and frankly I am sick of you morons coming here and trying to convince people that retard rallies led by a cowboy wannabe who lives with his father, throwing up stickers, and spray-painting a logo on a statue of Nigger Floyd in NYC, accomplishes anything. Most likely they will be executed by the government en masse once they take the mask off. I would respect Patriot Front, if they behaved more like Hitler and the NSDAP did prior to his election, but they don't, they do anything but, and do their best to avoid any confrontation, any real use of force, they won't even break the law and even with numbers like they showed in DC, they could do real damage to the system, instead they march and then go back to being whatever they are in their day jobs,(corporate drones most likely considering that they seem to require or at least encourage going into the indoctrination centers) taking no real risk what so ever.
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>>19364 Well this just happened to me on 4cuck. They are definetly getting scared.
>>19379 Don't care about ip, already been doxxed many times...
>>19378 >nooo why won't PF openly break the law to such an extent that even I know about it?? You can't be that dumb, anon. PF is the smartest group out there right now. Not even the NSDAP was doing anything blatantly against the law and still they eventually came to power. Things are inevitably going to get violent this time around eventually, but now is not the time to do these things. Only retards want quality White men sitting behind bars for life for doing things that did nothing but make people online make memes. We've already seen the results of 'REED SEEJ' with Atomwaffen, and it was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen. If you've ever watched an interview with Rousseau, you'd be well aware that he is attempting to build men and community instead of doing straight politics such as running in elections. And they are doing just that, and it is making kikes and do-nothing purity spiralers like (you) rage. Sorry if you're too fat to get into PF
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>>19380 >>19379 Wow, they really didn't want anons seeing that thread.
>>19382 The jannies at 4chins are all payed by your tax dollars.
>>19381 >Not even the NSDAP was doing anything blatantly against the law and still they eventually came to power. Their very existence was illegal, after 1923, because Hitler attempted to take over Germany by force, not realizing it was still possible to attain power so without that. So Hitler broke the law for ten years straight right up to 1933 after committing High Treason. I think you just made yourself out to be a retard. Everything else you said is bullshit as well. Strawman after strawman, cowardly rhetoric after cowardly rhetoric. Atomwaffen didn't read Siege or the organization wouldn't have existed. It would not have been structured like the cells in the Turner diaries had they actually done so either, so you trying to associate the extremely reasonable and sound advice in Siege with morons(most of whom turned out to be feds/informants Like Joshua Sutter) is absolutely ridiculous. I have watched Rousseau's interviews with other derad organizations like NRM, his focus on "community" doesn't require and is actively harmed by PF's public retard rallies and other actions, and he doesn't know anything about how to build men. I rage at morons like you and Thomas, not because you accomplish anything, but because what you do with what you have is nothing, but try to make a show of force and fail utterly when you retreat into Ryder Trucks being whupped by your nigger masters all the way.
>>19385 So they do it for free?
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>>19371 There are hardly any groups like PF though and even they are small. So how are you sick of PF when it's basically the only thing at all happening right now outside of lone effortposters. Just fill the void yourself. Make something happen and we'll probably support you because nothing else is happening! I just cannot understand the mindset of being pissed about PF when there is literally no other meaningful resistance going on anyways. Just do it.
>>19371 >ethnoglober Thanks for making it more apparent. Pure fantasy, to add on. Not sure if every single person adheres to this idea but I will admit that a supposed monoethnic planet would be nice. Just that the allies would have to go.
>>19381 >PF is the smartest group out there right now. >And they are doing just that, and it is making kikes and do-nothing purity spiralers like (you) rage. Riddle me this: If PF were a REAL threat, or even constituted the hint of ever becoming a REAL threat - would they be alive? Would there be a single video of them on twatter or jewtube? Is it kike policy to let large numbers of White men that are 'not brealing the law' - stay on the streets? Finally: since when does any White person actually have to 'do something illegal that will get you arrested' to ACTUALLY get arrested for doing something that the MSM has 'declared' illegal.
>>19390 2:00 >the Chad bunny hop 2:15 >the Chud strut
Ahem “Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; this is all we can expect - We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die: Our own Country's Honor, all call upon us for a vigorous and manly exertion, and if we now shamefully fail, we shall become infamous to the whole world. Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble Actions - The Eyes of all our Countrymen are now upon us, and we shall have their blessings, and praises, if happily we are the instruments of saving them from the Tyranny meditated against them. Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and shew the whole world, that a Freeman contending for Liberty on his own ground is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.” Activism countering BLM/Antifa Publicly advocate for Third Position Relatable Americana symbolism >Nooo you cant do that. whats the point? Build a group of hundreds of disciplined men that have no history of violence, engage in 1st Amendment protected activities in such a way that if/when attacked can appear like the 'goodguys' in the eyes of the American people >Bro they glow, whats the end game? Plant the seed of a movement that can grow to a strong force of men bonded in noble brotherhood. National sovereignty, collective liberty for Americans, has no end. There will never be a time to just say "OK we did it, now we can go home and live peacefully ever after". Not content to just sit silently, shitposting on backwater basket weaving forum they it seems they will speak out. >There is no political solution They are not stopping you from doing your thing are they?
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>>19394 You've exposed yourself, shill. You don't even know how to greentext or to properly format posts. Do they even train you shills anymore? Listening to the criticisms of do-nothings on the sidelines is a waste of time. No one every provides any better solutions to what is going on right now other than even more embarrassing and LARPy fantasies. >>19398 Good post.
>>19414 So your logic dictates that the sudden appearance of faggots like yourself and the endless christcuck shills, and the =OH NO MY POOR NON_WHITE POSTER shills, etc. shows you to be the shill here, because /fascist/ was largely in agreement about a racial ethnoglobe, the inanity and weakness of groups like PF, NRM, Golden Dawn, etc. until you and your felllow derads moved in. BO ought to start cleaning you fuckers up, until you go and stay go.
>>19421 Well the BO did say that it's not a White nationalist board exclusively and that he'll entertain any topic of any kind of fascism. Make of that of what you will. I'd recommend neuchan since it's full of White anons. There was a shitskin anon who was there for a while but he stopped posting there. Besides, imageboards are a thing in 3rd world countries, and it originated from Japan.
>>19422 Neuchan is back up? or you talking about /cob/? And I wouldn't care if the Derad faggots actually tried to argue, they just act like your typical NPC drone when you blow their argument out of the water, it's fucking annoying in the extreme.
Fedanon here, how do I access this neuchan board with based nazis?
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>>19421 Fuck off, fed. There is a concerted effort to make /fascist/ live with its head in the clouds, never in tact with actual politics. 'Muh ethnoglobe' is one of these, and indeed it got us kicked off AnonCafe. It is a boring fantasy. If you read Nietzsche you'd have understood why this is so lame (hint: it's a revenge fantasy of the impotent). PF, NRM, Golden Dawn, etc. despite their problems are infinitely more interesting than some SEEJ retard masturbating over his ethnoglobe fantasy.
>>19431 >Fuck off, fed. There is a concerted effort to make /fascist/ live with its head in the clouds, never in tact with actual politics. 'Muh ethnoglobe' is one of these, and indeed it got us kicked off AnonCafe. Just more ad-hominems, outright lies, evading directly challenging my arguments, and numerous logical fallacies, keep going it's quite entertaining. Here we go with the bullshit myth that ethnoglobe got us kicked off of Anon.cafe, it didn't. It is apparent from the events on the board while we were there that they never intended for us to use it. Their primary users being a bunch of fucking degenerates didn't help our case and once we had no alternative they disliked the discussions we were having, not just ethnoglobe. They also resented the fact that it was the most popular board, shitstirrers like you, capitalized on that to get the board removed. 16chan is much more accommodating, and less degenerate, so that will not happen here. >If you read Nietzsche you'd have understood why this is so lame (hint: it's a revenge fantasy of the impotent). I have read Nietzsche, which is why my arguments for ethnoglobing earth have nothing to do with revenge, that's just you trying to evade the question, gaslight me and any other poster who shares my view, and svoid the argument even more by claiming I could have no logical, rational reasonable basis for advcocating such, and you frankly shit on William Luther Pierce, and Hitler, and Rockwell, etc by doing so. >PF, NRM, Golden Dawn, etc. despite their problems are infinitely more interesting than some SEEJ retard masturbating over his ethnoglobe fantasy. They're not interesting, at best, as I said, they are inane, leftists and normal people do not feel pity or sympathy for them no matter what way you spin it, if they did, White Philadephians or Pittsburghers, or D.C. residents would have helped them every time they met even a little resistance during their marches, Instead they turn up on the opposite side marching with niggers and aiding them in driving the weak faggots out of their town.
>>19438 >Here we go with the bullshit myth that ethnoglobe got us kicked off of Anon.cafe Not a myth. It was directly emailed to the BO that we got kicked off due to ethnoglobe LARPers. >I have read Nietzsche, which is why my arguments for ethnoglobing earth have nothing to do with revenge, Evidently not, your fantasies are the exact type of 'imaginary revenge' that Nietzsche makes fun of that slave moralists follow. Your ideas are boring and in no way do anything to forward White survival. But go on, go and ramble endlessly about some fantasy of cleansing the planet when we can't even control our fucking countries. People like you are dead-weight to the White race. Thank God you people do not actually preach about this stuff in real life, or we'd be in a deeper hole than we find ourselves now.
>>19438 >any other poster who shares my view Not a lot.
>>19431 I like what I see from PF so far but am not snivelling about "ethnoglobe" like you so don't try this lame consensus crack. Weird how you try to shoehorn that manufactured board controversy into this and then blame the ethnoglobe boogeyman for the whims of anon cafe board owner.
patriot front is a front
>>19453 You're a front.
>>19321 Well for one spreading propaganda in person non violently is better than circle jerking on the internet in an echo chamber full of arm chair philosophers and commanders that need X amount of troops to do Y. By default, as a bare minimum, there should always be a WN group that functions peacefully, whether its legal or not is irrelevant.
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>tfw seeing a hundred fifty Men, under Fasces flags and banners, marching down the National Mall past Washington Monument makes half of /fascist/ seethe
>>19461 >half of /fascist/ probably "shills" mate
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>movements
>>19301 >There are non-Whites that support nat-soc and would like to see the U.S. remain majority White. I never claim to have all the answers but I do see this as feasible... Some type of autonomous reservation system where territory grows based on GDP could be implemented, with mixed economic zones everyone can participate in. White schools should still be a thing and not only for wealthy Whites. And black schools / hispanic schools would be a good idea too, as each respective culture should be embraced and curriculum tailored accordingly. I can't believe how stupid some anons are on here, how much they still kiss non-White ass even when all those races keep ripping off chunks of White nations, how jews and their endless pawns keep destroying what Whites built, and then these anons keep pushing things like "not all non-Whites are bad!" and giving up more and more to non-Whites and hoping they'll finally leave us alone to live in a fraction of our original nations. Then there are others who keep talking about reaching out to moderates/extending our "base" among conservatives and others by limiting our message. All that does it water it down to the point it's just like theirs complete with anons like this and their based natsoc non-Whites. Disgusting. We don't need to worry about lemmings. We don't need to compromise like those other groups who have been selling our birthrights bit by bit, lands and rights our ancestors bought with blood and sweat. It's already happened too much and we're in the dire straits today because of such actions. These anons and their useless movements constantly trying to reach an uncaring, stupid populace only muddy the issue and offer the same failed strategies that haven't worked for many decades.
>>19466 Most of the members of PF remain anonymous, and they are great at accelerating. It used to say on their Wikipedia page that statues of George Floyd etc. had been vandalized with symbols of PF. So either they are doing it themselves and actively accelerating, or leftists are doing it to try to harm PF, in which case PF is indirectly accelerating.
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>>19461 Real /fascist/s have always supported Patriot Front, I've browsed this place in various iterations for years now. The shills here have a very set strategy for fucking with this board. If we look at how Hollywood depicts National Socialists, this is how shills want the average poster on /fascist/ to act. It is best to rebuke them at every opportunity to show that they are not welcome here. They never offer any solutions. They are cowards. I am looking forward to seeing how Patriot Front continues to operate into the future. Shills and nay-sayers are just angry that a single march of Patriot Front accomplishes more than many of these posters have done in their entire lives for forwarding the White Cause.
>>19495 Exactly. Kikes try to convince normalsfags that nazis are the hollywood skinheads, and try to convince the nazis that all National Socialists are supposed to act like that.
>>19495 No they didn't. you fucking PF fednigger member, it was never mentioned until /pol/ died, and I'd love to see you explain Thomas allowing spics into leadership positions and other non-Whites in at all but what else could be expected from Christnigger reactionaries.
>>19529 From Privacy and Security Goys on telegram 12/04/2021: Here's a textbook example of why we do not encourage pro-White activists to join public groups: "Torch Antifascist Network" reports (https://archive.md/si3lD) monitoring the internal communications of Patriot Front. Even though they state the leaked documents "reveal an organization incapable of moving beyond furtive flyering sessions and photo opportunities," they still continue to dox (https://archive.md/KctGs) the alleged PF members. This happens to this day (https://twitter.com/afainatl/status/1467243897625751553). Tonight, Patriot Front marches in Washington DC (https://t.me/disclosetv_chat/3093373), with Antifa ready to engage (https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1467258409825103874). And while the QBoomers in those comments are quick to denounce the activists as "feds," this is the standard outcry from limp-dicked conservatives. As far as they're concerned, any direct action is a false flag. I am not here to denounce PF... but I cannot understand why anyone would want to attempt a march again after Unite the Right and Stop the Steal achieved nothing but put White people behind bars. By all means, get out there and do something for your people. Being a spectator while the world falls into the flames gets boring. But weigh the potential costs and benefits in everything you do. Going for a walk in uniform involves the risk of injury, death, arrest, losing employment, etc. If anyone brought their phones on this march, you know the feds have them on file. This isn't a game. This is quite literally a matter of life and death. What happens if next parade, an antifascist empties their mag into the crowd and disappears? The System and its enforcers (both feds and reds) want you dead. Start acting like it. But hey, at least the low-hanging fruit keeps heat off the rest of us. A peaceful protest does not strike fear into the enemy.
From GNL: Reckoning also on telegram commentary to the first attached image: This is why PF and their fanboys suck, they have this ridiculous "my way or the highway" attitude and can't accept any criticism whatsoever. PrivSec made a very good, very nuanced take, and they can't stand it. If you don't like PF or have objections to how they do things, you're a coward who just doesn't want anyone to do anything, or you just want to fedpost. Childish.
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>>19529 You kikes are so easy to expose. Even the most cursory search of 8chan archives of /fascist/ from 2018 and 2019 shows mentions of Patriot Front in several threads. Gas yourself. Shills like you need banned.
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>>19538 Based archive peruser.
Chat responses from Privacy and Security Goys on Telegram Chat owner/Admin" Are you people really so one dimensional in thinking that when I say "don't hold a parade" that means "do nothing?" Further, you think that holding said parade is stopping "the genocide of our people?" Get fucking real. They're(Patriot Front) reactionaries, simple as. I personally believe that America is irredeemable so I can't be considered a "patriot," but I know now what to avoid talking about lol Chat member commenting on PF and their shit opsec: The organizers dont and literally live streamed. Also, u said "cowards hide from their enemies". Is concealing your face not hiding your identity? youre contradicting yourself. "...achieves nothing". What exactly did PF achieve besides getting labeled as "feds" by the very ppl they are trying to appeal to? (Hilariously i may add). Also, why do all of you movement fags interpret "marches are gay and useless, dont do them." As "sit on your ass and wait to die."? Second image Caption and creator comment: Political cartoon about a current event that reflects the author (me)'s opinion. You can tell it's correct because I drew the guy who disagrees with me making the Wrong Opinion. @hedgewik GNL response to comic and moronic creator: Except Patriot Front members are routinely doxxed, approached by agents of the corrupt neo-stasi organization who goes by FBI, most of them are under 21, and from most of their own "propaganda" videos and pictures, they sure as hell aren't in shape.
>>19538 /Pol/ on 8chan died in 2018, retard that was /fascist/'s home, and that shilling shit started on anon.cafe.
>>19539 I have several images proving PF isn't half as fit as you seem to think. they either l;ook like twinks or have dad bods, not many peak forms there, those images are also grabbed right from their own propaganda.
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>>19541 You claimed that no-one ever talked about PF on /fascist/ 'until /pol/ died', but /fascist/ existed concurrently with /pol/ on 8chan, and /fascist/ didn't even exist until 2018, so you're just exposing yourself more and more and more as a newfag KIKE. PF has always been /fascist/
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>>19544 >Patriot Front is objectively a bad thing
GNL on PF members first attack strategy: Their go-to is that if you question PF's tactics, they childishly say OH WELL YOU JUST DON'T WANT US TO DO ANYTHING! GNL on likely fate of PF and it's members: Tfw Patriot Front will go down as a RICO case, mark my words. Reminder that the system took down AWD for less than what PF continues to do. AWD never even “did anything” they only eluded that they “may” or in the words of the governments attorney they “conspired” to. This was enough to send over a dozen young White men to prison.
>>19546 >AWD never even “did anything” AWD was run by a pedophile Manson-worshiper and was involved with multiple murders of random people. I'm convinced you're a jew at this point. AWD (legitimate feds) dindu nuffin, but PF is "objectively a bad thing". Reported tbh
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GNL on the physical fitnesds of PF's members(pics related resuses some of the pohotos from this post: >>19537 ): It's amazing how anyone has the audacity to call them physically fit or disciplined either, if you even just briefly scroll through their own promotional page, you will find pics exactly like this. This isn't slander, it's not something we had to dig for on dark corners of the internet: this is how they CHOOSE to portray themselves. More GNL commentary: “Taking power” doesn’t always mean from the barrel of a gun, or a roadside bomb, or committing an act of terror. Taking power can be as simple as acting in collective ethnic interest. Ethnic self defense. Honestly, follow the playbook that antifa and BLM have written. It works. Doing what antifa and BLM do would mean enforcing some sort of ideological purity, which means that virtually every PF member wouldn't be around, as they don't conform to any pro-White ideology, they only pay lip service to the idea. Like. I get the idea, I get wanting to “reclaim” America. But how are you doing that by building an organization that only exists to stroke the ego of the manlet Thomas Rousseau? Meanwhile antifa groups have effectively dominated local politics in multiple states, have infiltrated the legal system, and have billionaire backers? We could have this. Yes, I know, you cannot co-opt an anti-White system and vote ourselves an ethnostate. But they didn’t, they didn’t ask for power, or shitpost online playing PRETENDTERRORIST, they just took it, they took it because we didn’t. This also highlights why the street activism shit doesn't work. Antifa can do these sorts of shenanigans because they have people in positions of power who can run cover for them, protect them, bail them out. It's the quid pro quo of political thuggery: antifa does the dirty work of people of office, they get protection in return. One hand washes the other. We can't do this because we don't have people who will do the same for us. We could have that. We SHOULD have that. Instead of throwing your life away for stickers, how about you help Whites hang onto what substantial wealth and influence we still have by going to school, getting a good job, living a normal life. Not everyone has to be a hero, and most people are doing their part for the cause whether they realize it or not by having kids, making money, making friends - building the infrastructure that our race will rely on and that makes resistance possible. There's no reason that can't be you. And there's no accounting for how much you may have lost out for until you have lost it and it's too late.
>>19547 Nobody is saying AWD was a good organization, GNL has previously covered AWD and it's numerous fuckups and infiltration by feds but they aren't the subject of the thread and were only brought up as an example showing what will happen to PF, not as an exemplar to follow.
>>19550 >S-s-s-stop talking about AWD! No surprise that a (((long-time contributer, ethnoglober, fanatical anti-christain))) would want us to stop talking about a bunch of pedos who believe the exact same thing he does. "Read by endless essays kvetching about PF, goyim!"
GNL COMMENTARY ON IMAGE On the subject of Thomas Rousseau, if it's true that PF members buy their stickers direct from him at a markup and they're encouraged to sticker as much as possible, then what is PF besides a cash cow that Thomas can milk as he sees fit? I don't know how much money the stickers actually cost. I've spoken to quite a few different people, some say $10, some say $40, but this is still a lot of money. Money that could be better spent on just about anything else.
>>19552 AWD is not the subject of the thread Patriot Front is, stay on topic, attack the points being made or shut up. Further GNL commentary: I know I’ll probably catch flak for this but hear me out. Do you really think even 0.1% of our guys are prepared to kill or be killed? Prepared to have their lives ruined? Prepared to spend the rest of their lives in prison? Prepared to be hunted by the FBI who routinely employ former USSOCOM guys who used to kill real terrorists on the daily? Yeah, yeah, the US pulled out of Afghanistan, they pulled out of Iraq, but these aren’t the only places the US GOVT operates in. It was a geopolitical defeat, not a military one. USSOCOM are the premier body hole punches on the planet. They’re now employed by the organization dedicated to stopping us. And I know some will fire back with “no one is doing anything that you know of”, bullshit, if we aren’t hearing about it, it may as well not be happening. But by all means, if you’re one of the sub 0.1%, do what you gotta do. >Patriot front doesn’t get doxxed(pics related) Further commentary: PF literally, unironically pissed themselves sitting on the curb in Philly when they THOUGHT they were going to be arrested. They're green as fuck, no experience, never had any rough licks before, and aren't prepared to dish out or receive any. Inexperienced + arrogant enough to reject the advice of people who know better - and I mean REALLY know better, not the fucking lardasses you always see in their comment sections saying "if I wasn't so old I'd join u" - is a recipe for disaster. It's not true for everyone, but there's a lot of people in these circles who are only here because they're soft, or they're losers. There's no room for that here. They're not going to go easy on you. Neither are we, because we're not interested in being associated with losers. If you're a young guy fresh out of high school or whatever and you're reading this, don't be a rube. You have an obligation to your people to secure your own livelihood and build a life for yourself. For 98% of us, it's the proper thing to do, and it's what we will be relying on in the coming years. We need more doctors, more engineers, more people with the skills, know-how, money, and material to keep our race moving forward. The system is designed to strip you of all of that. The prospect of a year or so in prison is not anywhere near as bad as the penalty of being outright barred from good company, good careers, good women, etc. THEY WANT YOU TO LET THEM TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU. Don't get caught up in it! It's not worth it just for the thrill of getting to march around. Be smart, and be safe, for all our sakes.
>>19557 like it or not, networks have to be built outside of the fedgov control grid. and you can pump their tires all you want, but the US military has lost its image of invincibility permanently.
>>19562 He's not pumping the US military's Tire, he's pointing out that USSOCOM operators are all trained and experienced killers, and trackers long before they become part of SOCOM.
>>19542 >they either l;ook like twinks or have dad bods, not many peak forms there This is such an odd nitpick. If they are not fat, which they don't appear to be, that's a decent baseline. If they have latino and arabic members that is what would give me pause, and any other issues are dwarved by that.
>>19564 They absolutely do, and the GNL guy or atleast one of the adminsis a former US military guy, and knows his shit, if you wish to see the Posts plug this link into telegram: https://t.me/GayopNiggaLs/216
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>>19549 >manlet Thomas Rousseau How is this at all relevant? Really seems like you are just piling on as much stupid shit as you can until something sticks instead of focusing on what might matter. >they didn’t ask for power, or shitpost online playing PRETENDTERRORIST, they just took it, they took it because we didn’t Are you joking? Antifa didn't take power they were given it by the corporate media running cover for them and getting the support of politicians looking the other way so they can freely organize and operate with little obstacle. Their leaders are literal jews and shabbos goyim so of course everything would be handed out to them. So why do you say "we could have this" when it's so obvious power would not be handed to us on a silver platter like it was to antifa and their political wings?
>>19549 So what's wrong with the first three pics? They look perfectly healthy to me.
>>19567 I'm not the guy who wrote that, but I think it's about how they try to bill themselves as fit disciplined White men and you look at these photos they themselves put up, healthy? Sure maybe if rail thin is healthy, or having a paunch and soft looking arms, fit like an SS Man? Fit enough to be Fascist? or even a standard german army soldier? not at all, none of these people save the interviewer look like they're hiding any strength at all, their posture lacks any confidence, they look undisciplined in the extreme, more like they sit in office chairs and at school desks rather than working with their hands, sure maybe they do basic physical upkeep but not enough to do anything they claim they want to do let alone what's actually necessary.
Faggots: >Bro they are fucking jacked, just look how fit there are. Totally Feds I tell you Also Faggots: >Look at these pudgy thin armed twinks
>>19566 Pretty sure calling him a manlet is just peppering insults like we do here, relevent? Probably not.funny and deserved? absolutely. Also you're just skipping over the actual argument to attack a pointless but funny insult. Antifa started their political activism already set up, yeah, and have had much help but his point even if I disagree with some of it is that rather than wasting your time doing retard rallies Banner drops and sticker campaigns like the Google employee Antifa Sacramento recently doxxed as a PF Member who owns a 1.81 million dollar home, (and if he hasn't already, will soon lose his job.), instead of risking himself pointlessly and needlessly doing "legal resistance" he could have used some of that money or his programming skills, or done any number of other still legal means to support other White men directly instead of the feel good bullshit thats gotten him doxed.
>GNL said >GNL said >GNL said Having a look at that telegram is like looking at that one really persistent bad jacket shill from /pol/ that was deployed on Patrick Little, Moarpheus. I'm as much of a purity spiraler as anyone but this faggot is obviously doing it maliciously. Stop using this thread as a dumping ground for someone this disingenuous, you actual nigger. Like Moarpheus, he digs up some things that can easily have their context twisted around and then follows up with blatant lies (look at this quadroon! followed up by: the nazis never had any non-Whites!!!). You need to lurk the fuck moar instead of spreading his FUD everywhere if you can't make your own points.
>>19571 I provided proof and opinions as well as observations of PF memebers behavior which strangely mirrors the behavior of most of those in this thread and you can easily download PF's chat logs from Discord for 2020 and 2019 right from the Antifa archive to see how they behave, see how shit their opsec is and see how thoroughly Antifa has their asses pegged, as well as the articles doxing the non-Whites in PF particularly. It's all linked above but you can of course dance all around every point made all you wish.
>>19572 Great, post the information without riding the D&C shill's cock, thanks.
>>19568 >I think it's about how they try to bill themselves as fit disciplined White men Did they? I am not sure how you get from recruitment standards of rejecting morbidly obese and statements "ideology is one of strength and purity and self-improvement" to some how meaning that they claim to be the 4th Reich's Super Soldier program >010787 (17) >cc9c39 (5) Why are you so heavily personally invested in this? Its not even as if there is one point you are trying to make. You simply look unhinged, throwing everything at the wall trying to see what sticks. I guess I could consider myself pro-pf at least tacitly so, and even I am not as invested in these thread(s). How is PF a threat to you personally that still a week later they garner this much of your attention?
>>19573 What you want the chat logs? thats a lot of PDF'S, and not sucking anything posting what pertains to images and other mentioned things in this thread the guy posting the stuff on telegram decided to check out PF sometime in 2019, saw how shit their opsec was, and I'll ask him what else he noticed that made him promptly stop joining and walk away. Reposting at least part of what BO deleted erroneously. GNL commentary: Patriot Front is objectively a bad thing, while it does take heat off of "us", how Patriot Front works is convincing a lot of young White men, primarily those 21 and younger, that the only way to "do anything" is to do it "their way". They will religiously defend Patriot Front while simultaneously denying to be members of it, this is how you know you're dealing with someone who is in it. Only select people are allowed to represent PF but they act exactly the same. Any criticism about their organization, their "activism", or their blatant lack of operational security, they'll just accuse you of being jewish.
>>19574 >did they? Thomas, at least has, and considering their promotional focus on fitness, while doing it incorrectly, you are given the impression that that is a primary focus of membership looking at the state of members, it's obvously not. They directly give the impression slyly(or so they think) of being ostensibly pro-White yet allow spics into ther ranks and at least one arab. The point is that we need men who have actually delved into getting fit and could stand toe to toe instrength AT LEAST with your average US infantryman, who isn't a crazy leftist shit head, preferably better, they are not that. >Why are you so heavily personally invested in this? I'm not but this is a Revolutionary board for discussion of and the forwarding of Revolutionary Fascist or National Socialist ideas and causes. Patriot front bears all the hallmarks of every warning sign James Mason mentions in Siege and all the hallmarks of Reactionaries, wasting time propping up and discussing these people does not forward our cause at all, and is a waste of time, pushing idiots who support this off the board serves our purposes here. And there is one point I am making and consistently reinforcing, and that all the things I posted go towards reinforcing. That point is simple and i have already iterated it several times, as did the posts I copied from telegram, as does the book i posted.
>>19568 >I'm not the guy who wrote that It's obvious you are probably samefagging hard. Honestly you are almost more suspicious to me than anything presented about PF other than allegedly recruiting non-Whites, which as I opined earlier in this thread was the only thing even worth mentioning.
>>19576 Can you see anything good coming out of this group at all? If nothing else, maybe they could serve as an example of what not to do.
>>19577 I copied the posts from telegram because there was pertinent information in most of what I copied, I am the one whose ID is 010787, phoneposting because instead of joing in and discussing fashBO just banned me as a "Potential Paid shill" , feel free to go check the logs.
>>19578 Nothing good comes from christcucks anywhere near Fascism or NS, so no, I don't. and yes which is why I am trying to point out everything they have done wrong, and why despite their claims in other places and the puffing up that people who are either in, or fans of, PF, Hitler would laugh at their cowardice, not support them.
>>19575 >not-Morpheus commentary: endless bad-jacketing and concern trolling For the third time, stop copy pasting what is obviously a shill, you fucking idiot. You are too easily influenced and stupid to recognize what you're parroting.
>>19576 >Thomas, at least has Thomas has what? Claimed to be training SS? >focus on fitness, while doing it incorrectly How do you think this is an argument? You post a pic of 3 guys doing a push-up, on of them has terrible form. Without knowing whether or not this is the retards first day, or how far he has pushed that day, you are going to pontificate that the entire group is not in anyway serious about self improvement <Why are you so heavily personally invested in this? >I'm not >010787 (17) >cc9c39 (9) >James Mason mentions in Siege and all the hallmarks of Reactionaries, wasting time propping up and discussing these people does not forward our cause at all, and is a waste of time yet here you are. again. So go do your thing, faggot How are they a threat, that you need dedicate this much attention to them? Don't support them, sit back and do nothing, or hell get the fuck out there and start some shit. Promote you own ideas of what needs to be done. There is no reason for you to kvetch this hard because you disagree with their tactics, convictions or effectiveness.
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>GNL said >GNL said >GNL said >fear the PF shill, but don't forget to support Jewish interests in Ukraine
What's with non-Whites being let into groups that support our cause?
>>19557 >NaziWatch Unrelated to thread but what a stupid fucking account, constant tweets bitching about censorship followed by demands to get people fired
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>>19539 >pic This is unironically what a lot of conservative pundits, journalists, etc. said. Pic related. >>19542 Cope. They look decent enough. They don't need to look like bodybuilders. >>19564 In the USA, there are many Whites with Spanish origins and last names. That doesn't mean they're spics. >>19568 >they look undisciplined in the extreme, more like they sit in office chairs and at school desks rather than working with their hands People who work in offices have better physiques on average, retard. They're also much more valuable to the cause, as they tend to be more intelligent (which also leads to better diets and healthier life choices). Working class people are massively over-represented in the obesity stats
>>19583 You claim that the multiple admins of that channel are all obvous shills, yet aside form some insults and disdain obvious within the posts they're merely pointing out how PF and association with them has in too many cases led to one being doxed. They have and had such horrible Opsec that they used fucking Discord for their Entire organization communications, leading directly to members being doxed they take photos and video of all the "legal" things they do, which, if you looked at the Antifa doxes you would know directly compromised most of the people who have been doxed. The only thing one could call bad jacketing, and that I saw was an instance that asked that if thomas controls Patriot Fronts supply of stickers and other promo materials used for their Activism and sells them to membership at a markup which should be relatively easy to confirm with two years of discord chats to look through. You could always go join PF to confirm it personally, I wouldn't risk it though. >>19586 Thomas has claimed that a focus of membership in the organization is fitness and if they were doing it correctly across the board they would not look like soft office boys carting around shields trying to look like they know how to fight, it is the overall picture combined with what they provide us with to judge them by. I am doing my thing nigger, and part of that thing is pointing out how all these organization we have running out there, are traps either to grift off of our people who wish to feel good about where their money is going while risking very little, or designed to make people risk loss of livelihood and even freedom for petty vandalism and upcummies on social media. I only wish to make sure people don't fall for a trap that we have known exists for far too long. There is a reason I suggest reading Siege, everything Mason pointed out, for whatever flaws he may have had personally, shows the hypocrisy and cowardice of these mass organizations, and provides the only two workable strategys which he based off of his long observations within the broader movement, and from Mein Kampf and Hitler's other writings and actions. >>19587 I never claimed to agree with every take they had, Neither side is any better Ukraine seeks to ally closer with the west and Russia is an anti-Nationalist hellhole. >>19597 I see more fatasses working from home or from in offices and stores and/or not working at all in my field than I see fatasses who work in any of the trades, but maybe where I happen to work issimply is better than average. I don't think so though.
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>>19288 I don't think they're glowies, but they're just fucking larping. All they do is march and put on speeches and stuff. They call for revolution but do not revolt, and also do not participate in the political process whatsoever. It's very unfortunate. They're almost as if the average teenage /pol/fag who likes to dream up the aesthetics and ideals of a nation and then just sticks to that rather than achieving any meaningful change, but as a group.
>>19288 I think they are good for what they are, we need a section that does things the legal way, and I would never disavow a mainstream political movement in theory.
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>>19597 >This is unironically what a lot of conservative pundits, journalists, etc. said. Pic related. Yeah, low IQ meatheads like Joe Rogan too. It's almost like it's a deployed talking point. What they are really doing is finally doing what /fascist/ has been saying for years, i.e. doing some basic quality control on who they let into their group. Rousseau said back in his old interviews with Cultured Thug too that they were planning on putting a lot of focus on building quality men. This is what every single pro-White fascist group needs to be doing.
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>>19605 >also do not participate in the political process whatsoever Because it's controlled by Jews. Rousseau said in his interview with Cultured Thug from a year or so ago that at the moment that is not their focus. Their focus at the moment is to build men, and to get the movement known and up and running. They are smarter than some groups I've seen that come out and think that they are going to conquer all of America in a year or two. That leads to an inevitable activist burnout. They need to be building connections, building strength, building /fascist/-tier men. They've already become slightly more prominent than they were back in 2018 or 2019, and the coverage they've gotten is testimony to this. If I understand correctly, they're trying to get their footing first. Only time will tell though.
>>19575 >they'll just accuse you of being jewish. thats a good thing though
>>19648 >Yeah, low IQ meatheads like Joe Rogan too It's a little bit different for Joe Rogan though. He is a comedian, and just an observer. But for people that are in the conservative movement to literally say >lol no REAL conservative would be fit like that, that's obviously a fed! is both astonishing and hilarious. They are making a fool out of their own movement.
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>>19655 Rogan gotten sort of political in the past few years with the "Intellectual Dark Web" and his assocation with Jordan Peterson
They look like a rehash of the TWP and the Richard Spencer falseflag except this time in a cuckservative paint job. What matters most here is to not put your faith in another one of these groups and assure yourself that you can accomplish things on your own.
>>19659 >you can accomplish things on your own. This is an inherently anti-fascist mode of thinking though, isn't it? This is not to say, of course, that fascism devalues the individual, on the contrary, fascists highly value the exceptional and highest elements of humanity, however, another fundamental element of fascism is that together and united we are stronger. You are right though that one should be wary to trust these groups, and should be very cautious before ever looking to join one. I say this myself as a fan of Patriot Front given what I have seen so far. I think they're not really like TWP or anything from Spencer. TWP was killed by its own stupidity. Spencer is just a fed.
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>>19661 I didn't mean that you should be a lone wolf rejecting any sort of fraternity or mannerbund but that these large political organizations seem to be run by egotistical dickheads that will collapse on themselves in a few years. Can you, me or anyone else get away with hit and run attacks on buildings and people instead of clinging onto the hopes of another group of marchers who exhibit nothing different from previous groups of marchers except that they quit being retarded enough to not cover their faces and limbs because "those were for cowards"? I don't know what else to say besides something that will make me look like a fed or LARPer.
>>19664 Seems like healthy skepticism and I cannot fault you for it. I am ambivalent on the topic of PF because even though I like what they are doing, there have been dozens before them who failed. I will say that seeing cuckservatives shit on them is a nice reminder that WLP was absolutely right about those useless shitheads. And part of me hopes that PF gets large and then Rousseau gets imprisoned so that his followers take drastic measures
>>19668 >And part of me hopes that PF gets large and then Rousseau gets imprisoned so that his followers take drastic measures It would hinge on how charismatic Rousseau is. I'm not super familiar with him.
>>19600 >yet aside form some insults and disdain obvious within the posts Yeah it's more than "some" though, come on. Again, everything is being twisted, and it's like reading Anglin for his retarded hot takes instead of information on the actual events. The thread simply doesn't need to be spammed with biased idiocy. The core information is fine, the information coupled with constant appeals to perfection that did not even exist in Third Reich Germany is simply stupid and doesn't need to be here. Speaking of Anglin, and referencing what I said about Moarpheus/Patrick Little earlier, he also dropped his mask and banned all talk of Patrick Little running in California (other than slander) for no possible reason other than that he's a gatekeeping shill. These types jump on this kind of information and apply a spin to appeal to nationalists, against the nationalists who are attempting to actually do something. Having seen it again and again, I know what that Telegram is doing.
>>19678 >Yeah it's more than "some" though, come on. Being insulting is not a crime nor does it invalidate an argument, it's so common here and on /pol/ before it was killed that I have learned to ignore it, and find the meat of the argument, unless it's so egregious and obvious that it cannot be ignored, it doesn't reach that level to me chalk it down to agree to disagree. >Again, everything is being twisted, Very little is being twisted, the only thing I could say is out of line would be the claim about Thomas marking up the cost of promo materials all members are required to buy and use, and if it is true it's shitty of him but not illegal. The only Standard I am holding them to would be the standards Hitler himself would use, and did use, those of the SA or even the Wehrmacht, which are not unreasonable I find them utterly lacking on that front. >Patrick Little The guy was running for a government office he was never going to win, in a state that has been lost at least since Reagan was it's governor, the most he deserved was mockery. To be honest whatever Anglin did or didn't do matters little I've read maybe 5 articles from his website in all my time here and on /pol/, also I heard he was a jew. The thing everybody here seems to be forgetting is that Hitler wasn't some goody two shoes nigger who sat on his ass just putting up stickers or having marches, and then suddenly won, he had a fully capable Paramilitary wing right from the start and he put it to extremely effective use against his enemies. I doubt we know exactly how brutal it was, but they were breaking heads and committing far more serious crimes, on the regular, directly on Hitler's orders. These fucking PF larpers don't even have the stones to do that with greater numbers than Hitler had for the beer hall putsch. If you all, want to have a fucking circle jerk propping up people who only do what the system allows them to do, go ahead, I've done my part, those who matter will listen.
>>19680 >I've done my part Well, you've criticized.
>>19680 >I've done my part You're more of a LARPer than Patriot Front at this point. You don't offer solutions that people can do here and now that forward White consciousness and short-term political goals (which is what PF is doing, like it or not). All cowards like you are massive critics who don't offer anything of value. Any solution you give will be unrealistic or fed-tier ('just shoot up your local Walmart, bro!) even though the people who advocate for doing these things will never do it themselves even though they are so vehement in their advocation of these acts. >The thing everybody here seems to be forgetting is that Hitler wasn't some goody two shoes nigger who sat on his ass just putting up stickers or having marches Hitler put up posters, had marches and gave speeches all the time. He blew his load too early when he tried to launch a putsch, and he readily admitted this and decided from then on to pursue the legal route to power, which is what he did, and every Jew will admit this. Hitler even condemns the sort of retarded shootings and assassinations that people advocate for today in Mein Kampf. He was a far more capable politician than the eternal critics of this thread. Times are different from today, but his general principles still hold. Even in the works of Bolsheviks such as Lenin, we read of the importance of running an organization in two ways, legally in the open, illegally behind closed doors, working to forward political goals. Both are important prongs, inseparable from each other. If PF is doing illegal work, we're not going to know it right now. We don't know where this group will be in five years, it will most likely have imploded, but it could also be that they will be growing in numbers, and holding more marches, and strengthening more young men. If I were to start a group right now, I would take probably 90% of what PF is doing over.
>>19678 >and it's like reading Anglin for his retarded hot takes instead of information on the actual events kek I skim through Dailystormer these days, only to read the articles that are being quoted. Every time I decide to give his commentary a chance, I end up regretting it big time. He is like Alex Jones and Justin Trudeau mixed together. >if you kill your enemies, you're an agent for the demokkkrats It's truly amazing how retarded his website has become. From schizo ravings to White Nationalism, back to schizo ravings.
>>19680 You exist in a void between 1930s Germany and now where nothing at all happened, least of all nearly 80 years of our enemy studying Hitler and putting up every roadblock conceivable, including neutering the entire fucking population in one way or another and completely changing the ideological landscape. Where do you get a paramilitary, do you order it off Amazon? All we seem to have are broken, limbless, homeless "veterans" who can't even conceive of how they were used, and probably can't even conceptually reach the point to begin to understand. And youth who grew up lied to from the very start inside a panopticon. And when the rare one does figure it all out, and tries to do something: >the most he deserved was mockery Here comes the counter-signaling crab in a barrel, you! You don't deserve to utter Hitler's name because I'm certain he'd mock you the same way he mocked the "pagans" who wanted to just sit in the forest all day and not tackle the modern problems with modern technology and modern answers, as messy as they might be when nascent attempts are made. You aren't even pushing the correct tactics against the enemy, which, if employed from their group, you would simply never know about. If they grow to be successful, you will never know. Can you grasp that, you pinhead?
>>19735 >Where do you get a paramilitary, do you order it off Amazon? Kek. This relates to exactly the kind of defeatist attitude I hate. These fags will complain endlessly of having no community though which to launch revolutionary action, but the very moment a person or group attempts to create community or spread the word IRL, we're greeted with cries of "Feds! LARPers! Do-nothings! fuck them!" Honestly though, I contend we have already achieved critical mass and now it's just about getting enough young men off their asses, which is exactly what groups like PF attempt to do. Even if it collapses after a year, unless those young men who joined/sympathized leap off of a cliff, they aren't likely to fade away. There is no going back to sleep once one has awakened to the truth.
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>>19736 Exactly how I view it. The important thing isn't Patriot Front (though I wish them the best), but like you say, it is waking people up, firing them up with revolutionary fervor, doing something, doing anything. People have yet to realize how much further ahead we are than we were in 2015, not to mention the ten to fifteen years prior to that. People in Patriot Front and similar groups are going to keep looking for more and better groups, which will eventually create NSDAP 2.0. It's only a matter of time, but no one should be passively expecting it. Fascism is about the unity of thought and action, not sitting on your ass and crying that people are actually doing something.
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>>19570 >like the Google employee Antifa Sacramento recently doxxed as a PF Member who owns a 1.81 million dollar home, (and if he hasn't already, will soon lose his job.) Do you have any specifics on how this happened? Unless they followed his car home from some action or found out some sort of publicly available arrest data, I can't think how how they would do it. >he could have used some of that money or his programming skills, or done any number of other still legal means to support other White men directly instead of the feel good bullshit thats gotten him doxed. This, there is a lot of useful digital infrastructure that could use a programmer, and even more pursuits a wealthy person could serve in the movement.
>>19570 >>19738 'legal means' You faggot fuckwits. What 'legal means' have the jews used to kill our people? They killed my mother. My sister. 2 of my brothers. I'm not talking about in 'muh minecraft' either. They fucking murdered my family. This is NOT a fucking joke. The ONLY thing anyone should be doing is fucking murdering jews - the 'men' (I use that term LOOSELY), their 'women' and their fucking children. Fucking flat out eliminate them. I'm talking BRUTALLY too. 'Marching', and 'talking' does NOTHING.
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>>19739 >oy vey jews killed my whole family, start killing everyone NOW!! (no, I will not do anything myself despite this)
>>19709 >(which is what PF is doing, like it or not) Not in the slightest, not when the very people they cuck for optics to appeal to when the ones mocking them and calling them out as feds. You want solutions? the solution is violence, period, plain, and simple. Do you want actions they could be doing that would be far more productive than the petty vandalism and outright larping they're currently doing? They could attack the buildings and resources Antifa or BLM, or the Dems and Repubs, or even what the ZOGbots themselves have just sitting around waiting to be used> none of it requires terrible risk, many places are unguarded or minimally guarded, and vulnerable to attrition strikes, all one needs is, money or resources, to spend or trade, to acquire what's needed to attack those things with the least risk and for great reward, to harm Antifa, destroying some of their some of their buildings or training centers would certainly take little cost little and put great cost onto them or ZOG, Patriot Front has the resources to be doing this, yet, are not, why? So that they can claim to "better than their enemy, when in reality, it's cowardice and simply allowing your enemy to do everything they can to acquire power while simultaneously crippling yourself. The fact that the shit I describe above isn't happening is how I Know also that PF isn't doing anything illegal even though they plainly have the resources to transport their people over a very wide area. I know what Hitler did and he used the men who came to him, both legally and illegally. He could do so "Legally"(remember his party was banned in 1923, everything he, and any open NSDAP member, did "legally" was, in fact, illegal) because when he began Germany was already weak, and in a desperate state. America may appear desperate through warped glasses, but it is not, some simple interaction with the average boomer, or even just an average person belies that truth, it is as of yet, simply degenerate. If you started a group(you won't), and wasted it like Thomas is with PF, you'd have to be clinically retarded. >>19735 >You exist in a void.. No, you and anyone who tries to say what PF is doing is going to result in anything of use, or that it's forwarding the cause are the ones stuck in a void where the failure of Rockwell, or hel, even of Hitler himself, never happened. there's no roadblock to PF having a paramilitary wing they obviously have the men with which to make one, and if they couldn't be equipped by the organization itself, could, judging by the careers some of them have been shown to have, equip themselves, yet they do not and one does not exist. Patrick Little tried to do something that his Forebears whether Pierce or Mason, or Metzger, take your pick, had already pointed out, couldn't be done, so what he deserved was mockery, for wasting his time to get a rise out of California's jews and prove Pierce correct, which had already been done innumerable times. The ones who don't deserve to utter Hitler's names are those like you and the anon above you who advocate for further groups to perpetuate the Meat Grinder Nationalism and Christian moral abyss we've been living in for far too fucking long insult me if you wish, it does nothing, I know what I am doing, and have done, to forward the cause, and I don't need accolades for it, I simply do it.
>>19738 The entire story of how they doxxed the google subcontractor is here: https://archive.md/uvhNz
>>19755 Well we already have some lone IRL effortposters. Guess we just need some group versions like you described to act in parallel to PF since they obviously won't be enough on their own. A multi-pronged approach, since you can't stop people like PF from acting as they do anyways and they aren't sufficient on their own.
>>19758 Maybe but no existing Nationalist group exists which has the will to do that, sadly, maybe we'll see one in the future, but I suspect we won't see those who have that will, foray into public political advocacy until things get FAR more desperate and they may not do that at all, they might just start a nation of their own, rather than try to save those who are lost, who knows?
>>19755 >You want solutions? the solution is violence, period, plain, and simple. You first, buddy. Oh wait, you won’t do anything.
Did somebody say shoot up a walmart?
>>19755 >Meat Grinder Nationalism Does doxxed mean dead to you? Patrick literally went on a cross-country tour naming the jew after his campaign, and he's still free today afaik. The real meat grinder is Telegram, because every other day some youngling gets arrested due to putting too much information on it, and it doesn't seem to produce many saints. The "muh OpSec" fags may be safe, but the kids who respond to what they post aren't. I'd say PF's greatest fault is placing more bait on that compromised shithole instead of sticking to imageboards, especially when they know better considering I've run into them in the farthest reaches of the various 8chan spinoffs. There is no good reason to use it other than for archiving banned music/radio/video etc. As for IRL, most extroverted people are simply going to have to go on a journey before they give up, grab a balaclava and read Fry the Brain, getting doxxed isn't the end of the world, doing what you suggest before they're ready would be. Again, a paramilitary isn't going to sprout out of the ground in this degenerated wasteland.
>muh doxxing Literally who cares. Best case scenario, some trannies cry online about you being an 'ebil fascist', and worst case scenario, some psycho leftist appears at your house and you give him the Kyle Rittenhouse treatment and remove one more piece of scum from the world. Man up.
>>19778 What year are you from? Even normalfaggots get years in prison for "hate speech", kicked out of school, fired from their jobs, blacklisted, etc. Nick the spic Fuentes had his bank account frozen and was banned from air travel for promoting cuckservative civic nationalism. You can bet if you're name is attached to a group promoting anything less than the status quo you're getting bagged in the current year.
>>19810 Thats why you were supposed to be in crypto 5 years ago
>>19810 All the more reason not to get involved in a group like PF. It's a waste of time and the risks far outweigh the reward. How can people here still not see the uselessness of these sorts of groups?
>>19810 >Even normalfaggots get years in prison for "hate speech", Name ONE person jailed for HATE SPEECH in the US There is not one single law on the books for hate speech. You're making this claim with nothing to back it up >Nick the spic Fuentes had his bank account frozen and was banned from air travel for promoting cuckservative civic nationalism. Fuentes had account seized by the DOJ in regards to a FBI Jan 6th. investigation. >>19812 >It's a waste of time and the risks far outweigh the reward. >Be a good goy, or else
>>19810 Unless you are referring to "hate crime" which is just a sentencing addition for another prosecutable crime in certain circumstances, "hate speech" is not codified law in the US. >muh job >muh university >muh big bank account You're afraid of missing out on these things and yet claim you are dedicated to more radical action? What do you suppose happens when you decide to start actually doing these things you suggest? Guerilla by night and corporate employee with a picket fenced lawn by day?
>>19814 There's plenty of people jailed for speech crimes in America. You're an absolute retard or very uninformed if you think it doesn't happen. James Fields is probably the most infamous case. He was condemned for 400 years in prison for speech crimes.
>>19817 Really? You're just going to lie by omission on that one? He caught a raw deal on driving through a crowd - he probably would have caught 8-10 years if he didn't run his mouth about wanting to kill leftists on social media. He spoke a little too often and too passionately about violence toward his political enemies and it swayed people to think his actions were an attempt at a killing spree. That's completely different from being thrown into the gulag for being mean on twatter.
>>19818 >Really? You're just going to lie by omission on that one? It seems we have picked up at least a couple dedicated low IQ shills, probably some 41% JIDF wannabe.
>>19288 Patriot front is pathetic. Like, you do understand there was a coup in America, right? Anyone who understands basic statistics can see that clearly, they didn't even bother to cover it up because that's not necessary when you're up against a bitch like you. And then, after the usurper dictator was installed, he started immediately shitting executive orders that will change the nature of the country to please his masters. If you were a man, if the American people deserved to live, you'd be killing people right now. But you aren't. That's the choice you made. You made the choice of the slave. So, seriously, just go back to your basement and play video games. Don't go around marching through empty streets at late hours when you know you won't get in trouble just to make it look like you're less of a bitch. You're a bitch. The entire world knows you're a bitch. Your enemies know you're a bitch. Have some shame for fuck's sake.
I know you're probably trolling but >Don't go around marching through empty streets at late hours when you know you won't get in trouble just to make it look like you're less of a bitch. They marched to the US Capitol in afternoon daylight dressed so everyone would know they're ethnonationalists. Polite sage for replying to shills.
>>19818 >400 years in prison for speech crimes. <1 count of a hate crime act resulting in the death of Heather Heyer (18 U.S.C. § 249) <28 counts of hate crime acts causing bodily injury and involving an attempt to kill (18 U.S.C. § 249) <1 count of racially motivated violent interference with a federally protected activity (18 U.S.C. § 245(b)(2)) — resulting in the death of Heather Heyer, for driving his car into a crowd of protestors on a downtown street in Charlottesville, Virginia NOT HATE SPEECH CRIMES >There's plenty of people jailed for speech crimes in America. NAME ONE
>>19819 Its simple retard A HATE CRIME is “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” You have to 1. commit a felony such as murder, assault, arson, or vandalism AND 2. Do it BECAUSE you're a 'ebil nazi'
>>19810 Like the other guy side, this is just all the more reason to get involved in groups like PF. Imagine living in the current year + 6 and giving a shit about what normalfags and Jews say or try to do. Post-Covid I'm completely done with that shit. I bet you got the vaccine too.
>>19818 James Fields did literally nothing wrong. The leftists who chased him with rifles should have been the ones in prison.
>>19829 I don't care that the fags got bodied. I'm just countering that poster's argument that he got 400 years in prison for "hate speech" it was 28 counts of assault with a deadly. Didn't he fucking plead guilty anyway?
>>19830 They would have given him the death penalty if he hadn't probably. Though tbh, I'd find that preferable to life in prison.
>>19814 >Name ONE person jailed for HATE SPEECH in the US Maybe not in the US but this is not unusual in Europe
>>19832 No shit, Europe also has holohoax denial crimes on the books as well, this is not the case in the US THIS discussion is concerning (PF) and US activism
>>19778 No, it's far worse than that, best case you just became an unwitting informant on everyone you associate with because ZOG will monitor you, which is made all the easier today with modern technology, worst case jail or death, have you even looked into the history of this movement at all? PF is no better than the retards who reach out to James Mason despite him outright telling them not to do that in SIEGE as he has been under surveillance for longer than most of us have been alive. >>19768 No, it means you are a danger to me, to my allies, and anyone I associate with, you become, even if you are 100% true to NS a liability to have around, at least until ZOG is dead, then maybe you have a chance but not before. The only other possibility to drop your status as a liability is to completely change your identity and drop off the grid, to either hide away or go whole hog against the system, no in-between. And yes please lets continue propping up a fool who parades around with the likes of Mike Enoch and David Duke, and had delusions that he would win the presidency, what he has done whatever that is has led to nothing but feel good bullshit marketed to potential radicals so that feel as if they don't have to do anything because somebody's doing something. >>19814 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/georgia-couple-gets-prison-time-racist-threats-childs-birthday-party
>>19836 >In Douglasville, the couple, among others, reportedly yelled racial slurs at the birthday party’s attendees as they drove by. Torres also threatened to kill the people at the party with a shotgun Norton had loaded and retrieved from his truck, the district attorney’s office said in a statement on Facebook. This isn't hate speech, this is actively threatening violence, retard.
>>19837 They were charged with terroristic threats, that is quite literally "hate speech" under a different name, that they threw additional stupidity on top of it, doesn't change the facts.
>>19838 From the article you fucking linked >Torres also threatened to kill the people at the party with a shotgun Norton had loaded and retrieved from his truck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu1GjHAiHZg
>>19839 Yeah to a charge that didn't exist prior to 2001 and was added specifically to punish the speech of dissidents at home, try and avoid the truth of that all you will it doesn't fly in my book.
>>19840 Why are you being obtuse? >charge that didn't exist prior to 2001 Death threats constitute assault, this is not 'new' Also he was charged under Georgia law, not federal statue >O.C.G.A. 16-11-37 >16-11-37. Terroristic threats and acts >(a) A person commits the offense of a terroristic threat when he or she threatens to commit any crime of violence, >No person shall be convicted under this subsection on the uncorroborated testimony of the party to whom the threat is communicated. The Indictment to Grand Jury had a Sheriff and a local cop listed as witnesses
>>19755 The solution? Holy shit you are a die hard shill, most probably a kike. The "solution" has no place on the internet where it can be back traced, that solution lies solely within close nit irl communities. Tarrant was a idiot who went full "DUDE MEMES" incriminating pigpol for no reason,for just self importance. Pigpol albeit a shit hole was an information hub and should have remained as one. By default as a bare minimum there should be non violent "questionable" WN groups serving as an propaganda outlet. Anti White alphabets are whining about these groups din doin muffins as much as you are i assume. These groups should serve for growth and propaganda strictly.
>>19824 That's a retarded argument. You're just parroting regime propaganda and the bullshit they spew to justify their kangaroo courts. If there wasn't a speech crime in James Fields case he wouldn't even go to jail, or maybe get five years at most. It was a show trial to imprison someone for 400 years for speech crimes. I don't know why you refuse to see that. Are you a fed shill or some deluded boomer who thinks he lives in some propaganda version of America where people have rights?
>>19821 I'm not trolling. Everything I said is true. They steal your country, spit on your face and all you do are some funeral marches as if anybody cares. You are a bitch. Your enemies are laughing at you. If you had any shame you wouldn't even show your face outside anymore.
>>19855 >That's a retarded argument. It is a FACTUAL argument >justify their kangaroo courts. I never said the prosecution and conviction wasn't politically motivated. But he was convicted of intentionally driving his car into a crowd of a hundred people. The Rittenhouse prosecution was also politically motivated, as was the McMichael/Bryan case. Doesnt change the fact you are conflating media and prosecutor's politically driven case of actual felony crimes for "speech crimes"
>>19858 There's nothing factual about the regime's propaganda, FAGGOT.
>>19814 >There is not one single law on the books for hate speech. There are 'anti-semite' laws in every kike-cucked state in the US. Imagine a people so filthy, disgusting and putrid that LAWS have to be made in an effort to stop perfectly normal people from hating them.
>>19820 If you honestly, truly believe that 'Donald Trump' is anything but an actor - then you're still asleep. The man was and is a jew puppet.
>>19843 Just admit that the charges would have carried less than half the time served and probably would have amounted to a slap on the wrist if they hadn't said nigger. It's indirect in the US, usually, rather than direct, unless you count David Lane and his associates who, if i recall were imprisoned for seditious conspiracy? Which is a literal speech crime. >>19855 I love how you use the same shill kike tactics I've to "argue" against me as I have observed in all legal group supporting faggots I've ever talked to, avoiding any of the salient points I or others, have made here. You then bank on a false sense of potential for any movement/organization that have shown us no such potential whatsoever, whether that group be NRM or PF or otherwise. If anybody here is a shill it's you and it's beyond fucking apparent at this point.
>>19838 Threatening to kill people and waving a gun around, especially when it comes to children, is illegal in any society. You can't be this dumb
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I don't get what your hang up is. If someone is condemned to 400 years in prison for jaywalking because the system of jewish supremacy doesn't like their opinions, but someone who also jaywalks doesn't get condemned, then we can only conclude that person was jailed for speech crimes. Last carnival I saw lots of videos of drivers doing worse things than James Fields did and I doubt any of them got 400 years. I don't know, man. You sound just dumb. Come on, quit being a nigger.
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Even if you don't get charged directly for hate speech in the US, they have several mechanisms to punish you for it in other obfuscated ways. It ends up being effectively "illegal" even though not actually illegal. So you're both right it's just semantics. The reality on the ground is you can face similar consequences in the US as Europe for naming the jew or speaking out against replacement migration. Whether that punishment comes from the courts with tacked-on/multiplied charges, from corporations with censorship and blacklisting, the tax authority with targeted audits, the lying press who can whip up a mob and set it against you, or NGOs (often funded by the previously named actors) who can target you for doxing or vigilante action.
>>19901 I agree but what does any of this have to do with Patriot Front? 'Bad things might happen if you resist' isn't really an argument against action in my opinion. There is no zero-risk high-reward option for fighting ZOG so it just comes off as whining. People on all sides suffer during political upheaval - also the sky is blue. Those who don't want to try anything and just want to whine don't have any place in a resistance movement.
>>19812 The leader of PF has said during an interview that most of their members are working class, which means they aren't really taking huge risk anyway. >>19818 If James Fields would have had any other political views he would have gotten zero years in prison. He got threatened, he panicked, he fled, and then crashed into a few people. The US doesn't have official hate speech laws, but it does have unofficial ones, which are often much worse than the official ones they have in Europe.
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>>19815 >Guerilla by night and corporate employee with a picket fenced lawn by day? Yes
>>19905 >The US doesn't have official hate speech laws, but it does have unofficial ones, which are often much worse than the official ones they have in Europe. Correct, which is something that pro-America/pro-system/conservative types go to great lengths to obfuscate from their marks.
>>19905 >He got threatened, he panicked, he fled, and then crashed into a few people. I understand why he fled, but if he was smart he would have driven away a safe distance and called the police on himself for the incident. It would have been good for jury to here him calling the police, and saying that he had been chased and accidentally crashed into a crowd, and left because he felt in danger. That's what I would have done.
>>19875 Where do you get the impression that I did not understand that? And yes and no, threatening to kill somebody was pretty common and unpunishable no matter their age until quite recently historically speaking because, unlike pussies today, people could handle it or they didn't involve authorities needlessly amounts to the same conclusion whichever way you look at it.
>>19913 So you admit your example has nothing to do with hate speech.
>>19915 No, I don't, as it quite directly does apply to "hate speech", and how, in fact, their "hate speech" made their sentence far worse than it would have otherwise been and I also gave other examples, as did other anons.
>>19913 >threatening to kill somebody was pretty common and unpunishable no matter their age until quite recently historically speaking because, unlike pussies today Seems like you are a tough guy. But not everyone in the world can be like you.
>>19969 This is online. What people type are exaggerations of their emotions. I don't really think that anon wanted blackpilledanon to genuinely die.
>>19969 On the contrary, they can be, and trying to make everyone among our race into such is the very core of National Socialism.
So anyways, did they win? Did DC have White babies now?
>>20000 Aha quads fucking wasted, shitskins eternally btfo
>>19995 So calling cops would be a cowardly thing to do? In any country in the world,if someone's waving a gun at you and threatens to kill you, you'd 1. Run 2. Call. The. Cops. Not saying Blue lives matter but your life is over if you think you act like a smartass in front of the attacker and think you can one up him.
>>20003 No, in most every one of the fifty states of the USA, one can shoot someone who threatens oneself, especially in one's own home/on one's own property, and they are brandishing a weapon. Whether one calls the cops after doing so depends entirely upon where one lives and how nosy one's neighbors are.
>>20003 Id hand him my wallet and then retrieve the item lost in a boating accident
>>19288 >Whether one calls the cops after doing so depends entirely upon where one lives and how nosy one's neighbors are. You have to be 18 to post here not really, but you're still a cringy retard
>>20041 >>Whether one calls the cops after doing so depends entirely upon where one lives and how nosy one's neighbors are. Except that he's right, and my neighbors would help dig the hole.
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>>20007 This. What kind of second class human are you making yourself out to be if you're not carable of defending yourself cus you need a "man of finer clay" aka ZOGbots to do it for you? Or maybe they arrives and chooses not. >>20016 >boating accident Ah boating accidentings, so much treasure just waiting to be recovered...
>>20042 >my flag waving, patriotic, law abiding, cop loving neighbors are totally going to help me depose of a body, despite the fact that there is absolutely no reason to do so!
>>20190 Perhaps his neighbors are NS like he is, you have no idea, and even if they were as you describe there are many people like that who avoid involving police in their lives at all.
>>19301 >Being pro White doesn't have to include being anti-everyone-else. /bread
>>19421 There is nothing wrong in having both: a political party as a nice facade, and an officially unrelated militia ready to do the dirty work. It's the way it should start. The radicalization material and training should be, let' say... "made available", not distributed, and from there those who know what they have to do, who can do it and want to do it, will do it. >>19453 Im... impossible! C.R.A.P. <bonus points to anyone who gets the reference The only issue with PF is the big target syndrome. With the little we have left, FWIW I think I will shill for PF and see what happens. Assuming we educate people properly about glowies, gladios and gaslighters, it should be safe enough for most of us. >>19466 >propaganda doesn't work on lemmings >it works if deployed by the dominant force That guide could have been good if only better typed. >>19537 >PF isn't perfect so don't get into >>19538 Kikes complaining that PF focused on immigration and culture. Oy vey! <but muh other impotent tissues >>19540 The parade displays the existence of an organization. It's nothing more than civilized, well dressed advertising, with a few slogans here and there. It shouldn't be seen to be more than that. Now, only doing marches is stupid but did you know that the Golden Dawn had a very active social grounded activity in helping native Greeks? They organized social life events and helped normies who had had enough of it. Unfortunately, despite their growing numbers, they were too small and had not enough support in a totally kiked government and army. Nothing really happened since their leaders got arrested. That's the fail point: they only had the civil part covered but had no men ready to do the dirty work. Violence will save us but we need to attract people before radicalizing them. We have little money so we can't even pretend being like ISIS who have the training, funding and logistical help of Israel and some high profile Arabic dynasties. >America is irredeemable Yes, but you won't attract many people with this. You first need to lure them, and only then, radicalize them. We need to create militias and indoctrinate people. We need religion and politics. Patriot Front should keep its social and political activity going on and create a branch dedicated to fit and self defense, which would be an obvious cover to simply train people into becoming combat ready. It's defense, it can't be bad. The US does it with its DoD. Then, any clear violent activity that pretends being done on behalf of the armed branch should be CONDEMNED, no discussion. Period. PF and its militia branch must be PEACEFUL. SS Paladin and Fight for Berlin, however, should be shared but nothing official. It should ALWAYS be a strictly personal intiative, nothing endorsed by the organization. If the leaders are suspicious, make your way up the ladder, put pressure on the followers and organize any type of election of power grab to remove them. >how about you help Whites hang onto what substantial wealth and influence we still have by going to school, getting a good job, living a normal life >le normie life in Kali Yuga You (((faggot))). If T. Rousseau is a plant or a weakling, or a potential snitch or traitor, remove him by any means necessary. We need WORKERS. Don't leave these battles to commies and syndicates, go on the terrain and defend the workers too. Have them join. Syndicates often are nothing more than a ploy, a pressure valve. They're the fake opposition.
>>19557 Your rambling makes even less sense. You're saying that we'd be facing USSOCOM soldiers, so it's pointless, yet you want us to get into action. >they doxed him That's sloppy education. These retards should not even show anything of their own resources in such broad daylight. No insta fb tiktok shit. We need discipline and the first message should be: become less dependent of internet and your goyphone ffs. Pictures will betray you. PF communication should be strictly controlled and filtered. >>19566 Twice more true when you look at the profiles of the people Rittenhouse shot at. >>19568 >no Greek God aesthetics Come on, I don't mind if they are a bit chubby around the belly, that's nothing that cannot be corrected. Most people in their 30s or beyond are like that too. And we need their money. Again, I cannot stress enough on this: attract first, format later Now if PF sucks that much, then let's have another one and this time get this done right. >>19575 >Only select people are allowed to represent PF but they act exactly the same. Any criticism about their organization, their "activism", or their blatant lack of operational security, they'll just accuse you of being jewish. Honestly I wouldn't mind that type of defense if PF was close to perfect on the doctrinal side of things. They need to improve a lot. If anything, get inside PF, organize it, shape it to become better. >>19597 >these are not sandmen foot prints Come on now. What's so damn hard to tell you guys wear the same shit, carry some flags and if you're too fat don't attend? My main gripe with this "patriotic" shit is that it's still pro-US because of the flag; forget about it, the USA is the problem. You cannot save what was flawed from the very beginning and kept going downhill. >People who work in offices have better physiques on average >people who sit 24/7 are more /fit/ >muh stats They're usually soyfags with very libtard and feminine slanted opinions. Give me working class lardasses over these office fags any time. All the working class people I've seen who actually do PHYSICAL things are incredibly more HUMAN looking and fit than the drones working in soulless brutalist buildings.
>>19648 >L To the average burger, that's actually counter productive. >>19735 >Where do you get a paramilitary, do you order it off Amazon? kekeke >>19736 >There is no going back to sleep once one has awakened to the truth. Get this kind of idea out of your head. Traitors can spring anywhere, even from within ranks of people you were awakened and on your side. >>19739 We know the "derad", but do not be fooled by the equally subversive false radicalizer who really wants to push you into doing stupid things. >they killed all my village and then raped my dog I'm in tears. Really.
>>20343 >My main gripe with this "patriotic" shit is that it's still pro-US because of the flag; forget about it, the USA is the problem. You cannot save what was flawed from the very beginning and kept going downhill. Agreed. In PF's defends though, it isn't exactly the USA flag they are using, as they have replaced the stars with a fascist symbol. They are trying to be a bridge between normies and WN it seems. It may be a bit lame, but it never hurts to have these groups around imo. Especially not when they are causing cuckservatives to embarrass themselves like this. >People who work in offices have better physiques on average >muh stats If you're gong to ignore statistics, I don't know what to tell you. Might as well believe the races are all equal then. >Give me working class lardasses over these office fags any time. Working class men might make politically incorrect remarks at times, but because they're generally lower in IQ and (have low time preference), they will always fall back on electoral politics (muh demoKKKrats, muh Joe Biden, etc.) In the WN movements of the last few years, the members have always been disproportionately middle class. Working class men tend to be fast life strategists which leads them to not really care about health/fitness. Many of them think that just because they have jobs which include physical movement, they can eat and drink whatever they want. Many of them drink liters of soda per day, eat processed foods, etc. In reality, they are breaking their backs everyday, while still growing fat. Middle class men may sit a lot on their jobs, but their more likely to read about diets, do fitness, etc. As for the "soyboys" in middle class jobs, even they are healthier than the working class (on average of course). They're obviously useless and even counterproductive to our cause. But those in the middle-class (and upper-class) who aren't soyboys are some of the most valuable people for the WN cause.
>>20408 >Working class men might make politically incorrect remarks at times, but because they're generally lower in IQ and (have low time preference), they will always fall back on electoral politics (muh demoKKKrats, muh Joe Biden, etc.) This is simply debunked by the flood of memes about mid-IQ people being the worst, and that's been seen with Covid too, where the most antivaccine people stood on the extreme sides of education, high school grade on the left and phd on the right. The office class in my experience has had the highest concentration of spineless bastards, faggots, leftists and cowards. >In the WN movements of the last few years, the members have always been disproportionately middle class. And then you know why it failed. >Working class men tend to be fast life strategists which leads them to not really care about health/fitness. Many of them think that just because they have jobs which include physical movement, they can eat and drink whatever they want. Many of them drink liters of soda per day, eat processed foods, etc. Works chads still perform despite ingesting all that crap. The office virgins are slender and eat salads. >But those in the middle-class (and upper-class) who aren't soyboys are some of the most valuable people for the WN cause. Only because they have more money and if we don't take it, then the ZOG will keep draining them to give it back to niggers, beaners, Israel, Saudis and Rothschild. But they're equally reluctant taking risks because of their too pristine way of life.
>>20408 >soyboys office faggots are healthier than tradies Is this retard serious?
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>>19453 >>19454 >>19489 very productive and on topic discussion
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>They can't keep getting away with this
>>20190 >>20330 Or - and this is more likely - they hate niggers as much as he does. Believe it. Although instead of digging a hole, my neighbors would just assist with getting the body to one of the many the local gator pits.
>>19421 Much truth here.
>>19488 I have to admit - if either is true, it is good for us.
>>19533 >Unite the Right and Stop the Steal Totally BAD examples, as both were the creation of the ZOG.
>>20481 It's true by almost any metric, and you know it. Obesity, diabetes, alcohol intake, lung capacity, damage to back, bones, joints, etc. In addition to that, the working class often come in contact with various chemicals (from factories, paint, oils, etc.)
>>20512 I've lived innawoods at a national forest for 4 years, I've seen countless yuppie faggots that can hardly walk a 90 degree hill for 100ft
>>20520 This comment speaks for itself, lol
>>20521 Is this supposed to prove superiority of paper pushers? The same faggots that cry if the heating system breaks down?
>>20520 >walk a 90 degree hill Is this some kind of Amerilard metric, or is this anon just really retarded?
PF needs to create cohesion and connected support. If a member encounters resistance, be it the IRS, feds, cops, niggers or people at work bad mouthing them, they should be able to quickly call for help and immediately get other members come to them. What is the point of a political movement if its felt and practical existence ends when you live the marches or the official PF buildings? It needs to exist everywhere, in family, work and entertainment. Joining PF should bring strength and support. If all you get in return is a bunch of posing fat lords, you're wasting your time. You need a BUND.
>>20512 Who gives a shit if they're mutants? Office fags are equally polluted and their mental environment is far more rotten. Do you think the world will be saved by faggots obsessed with detox beverages?
Plausibility of denial. Whatever you do, be careful. Don't endanger the PF.
https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-a-lesson-in-insanity/ Interesting analysis. I was able to read it yesterday on Tor but unfortunately this time I've been caught in cuckflare so I can't provide a screenshot.
>>20544 So you can't react at all if the AC is busted?
>>20520 >that can hardly walk a 90 degree hill >90 degree hill Anon I...
>>20629 Yes I'm retarded but I'm American so its expected and you knew what i ment
>>20631 alright so some big brain explain why 180° = behind you and 90° slope is vertical
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>>20632 See pic related
>>20520 >t. faggot that cooks vegetables in water because he thinks the pan will cause them to lose nutrients.
>>20634 I cook it in water for drinking and easier to clean
>>20520 >anecdotal evidence >takes pride in being able to do things anyone could learn in a few days >walk a 90 degree hill for 100ft amerimutt.jpeg
>>20574 >link Someone certainly took the lanepill.
>>20520 >I've seen countless yuppie faggots that can hardly walk a 90 degree hill for 100ft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG9TMn1FJzc
>>20648 >takes pride in being able to do things anyone could learn in a few days I guess that explains why I've seen millions of people in the 4 years, and why garbage like man vs wild is niggercattle fuel >>20665 My ancestor
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>>20648 Here you go jerk, want some? Its Christmas after all and even mcdonalds horse paste addicts deserve to taste link marine rations
The American Futurists also posted this https://americanfuturist.net/parallel-polis/ Although I do not see any issue with mimicking methods that have worked in favor of the enemy, their examples are not without problems. >A more recent example of this would also be the Polish Underground State. Which in simple terms was Polish Resistance Fighters not just forming militias to fight German/Soviet Occupation of Poland but also acting as the Polish Government itself. > >Besides the obvious things the Polish Underground State did such as Sabotage, Assassinations and Terrorist Attacks which were mostly directed at the Germans. They also did very interesting things I find useful to us to learn about. For example with Polish people who collaborated with the Germans. They were kidnapped then put on trial by courts set up by the Polish Underground State. Granted they were always sentenced to death but it gave more legitimacy to give the appearance of trials to those that collaborated with their enemies. They also did things that weren’t just killing and violence. They provided social services to Poles in need. They ran underground schools to teach Polish Language, Culture and Political Worldviews to Polish Children. Which only furthered their legitimacy in the eyes of many Poles. They even had their own media networks and publishing arms. > >From this they were able to garner more and more support and get more people to join. Until they had enough strength within their own military forces to do rebellions against the Germans. Such as the Warsaw Uprising (part of the PUS’s Operation Tempest), Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and more. Honestly giving the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS a serious fight and even though the Third Reich won in the end, the Reich ended up actually losing more soldiers than the PUS’s Home Army. With the Reich having 17,000 causalities to the Polish Home Army only having 15,000 causalities in the Warsaw Uprising. So while the Home Army lost, they didn’t lose without giving the Reich a considerable black eye in the process. > >Granted in the end, the Polish Underground State were all nothing but useful idiots against the Germans. The main issue here might be that this specific underground network might have benefited from resources which we might not have. The PUS (lel) was backed by Jews and Communists, which would imply that they could count on any kind of foreign help, starting with the Soviet Empire but also the United Kingdom to a lesser extent. It is circumstantial though as I have no relevant data.
>>20940 On the other hand, we possess a definite advantage. Beyond the mere fact of some White nations counting populations armed up to the chin and capable of mounting powerful militias anytime a war lord would start to get things moving, Whites are simply the most productive elements of our invaded societies. The ZOG is entirely dependent on the taxpayer money. We certainly need to establish our own parallel anonymous and, if possible, physical currency (for the sake of practicality for the average Joe), and also a stable model of barter, while at the same time organizing the blocking and sabotaging of the payment system of the System that would be even more dependent of centralized collection, data and powered networks. >It is a fact that we are under Jewish Occupation and that must be resisted and overthrown. However it must be done in an intelligent manner. Not by shooting up synagogues or mosques. Preach. All intelligent men know this and are aware that such rash and pointless actions may not even be genuinely from within our own ranks. I am not saying there won't be a time for utter destruction of anything alien to our people and our cultures, but right now it would be counter productive and wasteful, on top of detracting workers from joining. Whites in the USA have a decisive advantage in terms of land control and firepower, and electronic networks are actually poorly established outside of metropolitan areas. But the illusion of remaining freedom and false hopes keep our people from engaging in alternative actions for a much different future. In Europe, for what I know, the situation is quite different. The population density is higher, meaning Whites are in direct contact with coloreds. This is creating a more dangerous situation but also forcing Whites into a different and more aggressive mindset if they wish to survive as there is little illusion left about moving out of some area into another one. Europeans are also far more settled than Americans where it is not unusual to see entire plywood houses be shipped from one state to another. But there are other issues in Western and Northern Europe: a lack of White firepower in many countries, not in Switzerland or Ireland, but certainly in England for example. The laws are also far more dictatorial which means the System has far more resources to crack down on PP. But the good side of this is that it puts pressure on Whites like never before, where any illusion of freedom is but a distant memory. On top of that, police forces have abdicated any form of authority on zones populated by Muslims and other migrants. In other words, the PP is a model that is almost already in place in such zones and it's something Whites could copy.
>>20190 >>20496 Patriot Front members were involved in both, their leader Thomas is quite directly the reason why James Fields got as heavy a sentence as he did because he was handing out Vanguard America merch to random nobodies including James. They weren't bad examples they were pertinent examples.
>>21106 >PF is why that nazi got life sentence >just ignore how kiked judicial system is, it was the protester being handed a flyer that did it
>>21107 He wasn't handed a flyer, he was handed the shields and some other shit that Thomas was handing out, had he not been handed those they would not have had such direct evidence of his linkage to "Nazi's", aside from being at that protest, and his sentence most likely would have been much lighter despite the kikery in the judicial system. Instead he was handed a shield and took a picture with the then second in command of Vanguard America, all because Thomas wanted the illusion of numbers. I love that instead of addressing the real impact Thomas's moronic actions had on his sentencing you try to claim that I thought that was the only reason he was put in jail, I can't remember what fallacy that is but it's a wonder to see it so often.
>>21110 You should have said >their leader Thomas is quite directly ONE OF the reasonS why James Fields got as heavy a sentence as he did and it would have been more accurate, but you didn't say that so you get nitpicked at by the other anon. Precision matters, for better or for worse.
>>21111 I get it, it's not exactly what he was doing, but it's still stupid and petty, nobody here thinks the judicial system isn't stacked against Whites.
>>21112 >stupid I'm the anon that thinks a 90° hill isn't a vertical line, so yes I AM SILLY
>>21107 They would have fucked him up regardless, allegedly he was doing shit like sending Hitler memes to his mom and never stopped sperging about WWII in his personal life. The other things are just icing on the cake. Fields was doomed from the get-go.
>>21129 My mom held onto my copy of mein kampf after I went innawoods for 4 years and gave it to me, are the lampshades going to gas her bros?
>>21133 >after I went innawoods for 4 years Dang, what did you do the whole time?
>>21136 >dug a hole >covered it >clay puttied it >lived in it >2 years later >heavy week long rain storm >flooded in it >soaked in it >gear destroyed in it >gave up and got a big tent instead Not much, I heckin HATE science
>>21137 Were they your woods or someone else’s woods?
>>21139 It was government owned woods because I'm not paying 10k for an acre of land for kikes to permit spam me
>>21137 Extremely based. I sort of want to do something similar. I'm wondering how better drainage could be achieved in something like that though, because that is basically what I would build myself. How was it to get food in stuff? Were you really out that for four years?
>>21142 Most of it was store bought unfortunately, shit like rice/beans/cornmeal/oats. I had some potatoes growing and would fish. Ate a couple small birds but would only recommend that in a true shit hit the fan scenario. The "hobbit hole" lasted for 2 winters but heavy rain after the 2nd winter made the river 500ft away rise and caused the walls to flood. If I was to do it again I'd build higher elevated and create sandbags (I had trenches and tarps but that did nothing for water coming through the walls) After it flooded I crashed at a cityfag frens house for a few months, felt bored as shit and went to "urban camping", eventually a combo of temp work, and chink aids (coronavirus) allowed me to network enough connections for occasional odd job work. This plus buttcoin bullrun let me ditch urban camping to go back to BLM land. I spend maybe 2 or 3 weeks out at a time, trek for a day to the city for supplies and see if my oddjob bosses need anything done, then return back to the woods after a few days. Been doing the last part for maybe a year now. I have powertools this time so if I did decide to waddle and daub again it would be more professional, I just haven't because when it failed it sucked big time and a massive 6 person tent is very comfy (Reddit space for reddit blog) If you decide to do it just realize anything bushwack related on jewtube is heavily edited and only shows the fun/easy parts
>>19587 >>support Jewish interests in Ukraine So you're talking about Russia then?
>>21144 Surprised that the government didn't catch you on their land. I doubt they really bother with it most of the time, though. Overall though, even though it is obviously going to be tougher than comfy modern life, was it worth it? More comfortable, more rewarding, etc?
>>21141 Did you have any trouble with the government while staying there, or did no one care?
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>>21146 >>21144 When I say 'comfortable' I don't mean in the material sense, I meant from a psychological perspective, as less stressful than modern boring life.
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>>21145 They're all Jews.
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>>21149 >This Ihor Kolomoyskyi second richest billionaire in Ukraine, owned a bank and the soccer team, active member of jewish community, put up a 1million dollar bounty on a separatist politician, made large donations to Azov Battalion and Bloc Yulia Tymoshenko in 2010 and UDAR in 2012
>>21147 Not really, a sesna plane would fly over and then loop back minutes later, this happened on 1 occasion while using tent. Once I built the hobbit hole the sesna planes would just be heard off in the distance (I assume their job is to look for fires or large dead trees/animals) >>21146 It was exciting, would see elk almost every day except winter >>21148 Yes, I considered it as the ultimate /fit/ test. See the limits of the human body
>>21158 also to add on I was very cautious on moving around, you would hear sesnas with plenty of warning so I would put out fires or if I was mobile would crouch by trees. I'm sure they were aware of me as I would exit/enter several times a month for supplies but I think since I wasn't shooting deer or something to attract fame wardens they didn't care For what its worth the land was near a town with under 500 population
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New behind the scenes Patriot Front National March 2021 >#PatriotFront activists marched across the Potomac, through Washington DC, and gave a speech in front of the Capitol Building. Activists marched five miles through the city with peaceful and orderly conduct before their full, safe departure. >The action itself was conducted as a demonstrative display of the convictions and unity of those striving for the cause of national sovereignty, and collective liberty. https://www.bitchute.com/video/gbKA0ZqJJqzB/ https://odysee.com/@PatriotFront:7/PatriotFrontThirdNational21:f
>>21184 >inb4 manlet
>>21185 I guarantee that Rousseau has a better physique than the shills ITT.
>>21192 Kikes have soft girl hands from lifting nothing but foreskin and torahs
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I never thought I would agree with Spencer on something.
>>21578 Can you upload the mp4?
>>21632 You know what they say about stopped clocks. >transparency <Just like, dox all your members bro! Prove you aren't feds! The fact that so many lukewarm "right wing" TRS and groyper types hate and shill against PF so much makes me want to support them purely out of spite. don't do that though, it's a dangerous mindset
>>21637 Where are you getting this stuff about TRS shilling against PF? Don't just make stuff up.
>>21632 My inclination is that Scott Adams is on someone's payroll. Peter Thiel would be the guess.
>>21640 he said >TRS and groyper types
>>21643 still doesn't make any sense
>>21641 The simplest explanation is he wants to be a good goyim to stay in the graces of corporate media so he can sell his dilbert cartoons and keep getting media appearances. So basically the same motivation as any other cuckservative who is afraid to name the jew. Cowardive and self-preservation.
>>21641 Not impossible, but the most likely explanation is that he's just a grifter. Grifters hate being controversial. They don't want to rock the boat and upset their steady income of shekels. Essentially what >>21663 said. The cuckservative grift is so easy to pull off, and the potential shekels are limitless. Just think of the grift that Trump and his cronies have been running on American cuckservatives for the last five or six years. Does the shekel farm ever exhaust itself? Seemingly not. Big audiences + uncontroversial positions = endless grift. You'll never see a grifter who actually calls out out the Jews or demographic replacement.
>>20574 this article pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter. They are a lame, do-nothing-meaningful optics cuck group who's propaganda refuses to even mention our White race or the JQ
>>21966 Do they even need to? Everyone knows what they stand for.
>>19288 They're doing everything right. The only people who are attacking them are either conservatives who think democrats are the real racists, or REEDSEEJ accelerationists who hate everyone who isn't throwing romans in public. I went to the movies yesterday (which I shouldn't have, it was cancer) and by sheer random coincidence, I saw about 8-10 of their stickers walking to the theater. I've noticed that they stay up for longer now.
>>19549 This is a dumb fucking trust the plan post you should be embarrassed. Antifa has been around a hundred years its a jewish club you fucking retard they aren't funding their self its a jewish militant wing for terror you are funding them technically when you pay taxes. Not once did this idiot suggest anything other than sit back. Nope not even taking local office and make it illegal to arrest right wing groups or making a militant Pro-White Lawyer group. Just sit back guys like a boomer at a south african farm.
>>22142 I’ve seen some of their stickers by total accident while just wandering around town as well (I live in the Midwest)—it was honestly pretty Whitepilling to see. I’ve never seen any other group have a presence IRL.
>>22394 Aye, thanks for archiving it. Should have done that, but I'm tired and my brain's not working right. I'll archive any pages that I find especially interesting.
>>22397 No worries, anon. I assume most people here are smart enough not to just click on those links without protection anyway.
>https:// hyperlink ffs >>22399 Regardless it should be deleted/reposted or edited.
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>>22390 >Using (((Discord))) for bad goy activism >Fucking ever When will these niggers ever learn? It's easy as fuck to scrape an entire server because a bot pretending to be a user can effortlessly check all the old messages that it has access to. If they ran some sort of 3rd party bot and gave it too much permission, that's even worse.
>>22402 They were not using discord They had self hosted a private rocket.chat server MLP riot simply used their dicksword/leaks page to post the log
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>22390 >Patriot Front chat just leaked. >unicornriot.ninja/2022/patriot-front-fascist-leak-exposes-nationwide-racist-campaigns/ https://archive.fo/pHmEo Would recommend reading through it. If you're a bad goy, use a VPN because this is an antifa site. There's a lot of useful info in the leak though. Looks like a mole got into the organization. >discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/rocket-chat/room/5c19ce38-6817-44c8-bed8-45ada690ba82?&page=2 https://archive.fo/m24MV Paul CA says that the mole left a trojan on the chat server. No idea how that would work, but I'm not a tech guy. It's worth reading through the leaks. There's a lot that you can learn from this. As well as entertaining pics/videos. To anyone affected by the leaks, my heart goes out to you. I applaud your bravery to participate in activism, and wish you strength in the battles that may result from it. >22390 >https://archive.fo/pHmEo >https://archive.fo/m24MV
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>unicornriot.ninja >discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja pic rel
>>22403 Oh, my bad then.
Leaked Chats Reveal Evidence of Hate Crimes by U.S. Fascists >For the second time in as many years, American fascist organization Patriot Front is facing a humiliating leak of internal communications, messages revealing a trove of evidence pointing to coordinated criminal activities in multiple states, including New York, Washington, Indiana, Virginia, Massachusetts, and Oregon. >Experts consulted by Gizmodo say the material is likely to seriously damage Patriot Front, which the Anti-Defamation League has identified as one of the biggest sources of White supremacist propaganda in the U.S. and mostly recently was in the public eye for a march of an estimated 100 cadres on the National Mall in Washington, DC, last month. https://gizmodo.com/patriot-front-leak-data-breach-hate-crimes-1848401943 https://archive.fo/0bOWX >>22402 They never will. Anyone who doesn’t know that Discord is a kike dataminer in the current year, and especially after everything that happened after Charlottesville is just dumb. These people need to take lessens from radical Islamists online, you never hear of them using fucking Discord
My bad—I saw the other post about them apparently not using Discord, but my general point stands still.
>>22408 >you never hear them using fucking discord you're right, they use facebook.
>>22410 >hurr durr No they don't retard. Anyone can make a FB page and put Your logo on it
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>>22410 >they use facebook
>>22411 >>22412 i was talking about the islamists
>>22412 He's referring to the Islamists, but that's still wrong. From what I had read during the ISIL days, they would only use public social media to post propaganda images and video which was then spread to other sites. The FB pages themselves would only last a few days or even hours before they were banned, but the media would spread. The only other time they've used anything close to social media for planning was coded phrases sent through the PlayStation Network of all things. >>22408 >>22404 You think they'll just disband and the members join something else, or will they try to continue?
>>22413 my mistake >>22415 >You think they'll just disband and the members join something else, or will they try to continue? I think they will will lose a few members but most will learn from mistakes and continue.
>>22408 How come these groups never vet and don't use code names , how come they don't create a filter distraction to keep those spying busy? Also unicorn riot=fbi=jews , there was leaks a little back that basically confirmed the fbi jews were directly spying on these groups and literal bible studies on behest of multiple jews then giving info to unicorn riot and and antifa jews to disrupt. We are living in a Middle East full jew war situation on the American White public. They use terrorist groups like antifa jews , like when they propped up the taliban to enforce an terrorize local populations resistant to comply against Russia. The entire antifa circle is literal fbi controlled, this was exposed when they had shemales try to buy AKs over 4 years ago then the CHOP zone then that nigger rapper fbi informant publicly handing out AKs. So Patriot Front needs to realize this is not antifa its a jewish terror club run by fbi jews with international ties to other communist terror networks. Patriot Front should work on entrapping the fbi publicly for illegal spying and stalking they do it openly now. Patriot Front should be working on public exposure of the fbi and work on tarnishing their public reputation to keep them busy im sure multiple members have threatened to become informants. They are actual communist might as well every normie know the fbi are a full on terror network set on genocide of White People with a solid in real public meme campaign.
>>22417 >How come these groups never vet and don't use code names I mean it looks like from the chat logs the members go by "first name + state" which could easily be a fake name. There doesn't seem to be a lot of 'hey Im John Smith, here's my address and birth date lol. also my snapchat for memes'. At least they got that right.
>>22415 >>22416 In a sense Patriot Front is already the regrouping of an older group that was disbanded that was founded by the same person. There is a great article about it on American Futurist. >https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-a-lesson-in-insanity/ I read this short (20 or so pages) essay from them that does a decent job talking about what is wrong with all of these movements. It sort of feels incomplete in it's summation but it gets a few cases across to make a point. All these "movements" (2016-Alt Right, AF, TRS, PF, etc) have the same problems. Firstly, it creates followers. These are people who could otherwise take control of their own faculties but instead decide to outsource their thoughts to these personalities. It placates them because they can tune in and hear somebody say nigger and agree with them and in that way it acts as a pressure release valve for followers. It acts as a refuge (strength in numbers), and while not all members are cowards it has appeal to the cowardly to be part of a herd. The expectation that action has to flow down from these personalities is disarming as well. People shit on Siege, and the futurist idea. Still, it's the only ideology that has weight behind it that could catalyze into something significant. It demands you be autonomous, think on your feat, exercise your will and strength to stay above the wave. It has none of the pitfalls of these boys clubs. It scares ZOG, truly. Yet here we are--groypers, patriots, NJP members... all subscribing. all paying their dues to receive "content".
>>22419 >Patriot Front is already the regrouping of an older group that was disbanded that was founded by the same person Vanguard America (VA) founded and under the leadership Dillon Hopper. Thomas was a MEMBER and later a chapter leader of (VA)Texas. From YOUR link >In essence, it was a rebranding of the defunct group, Vanguard America. With Thomas Rousseau, a higher up within VA Thomas left (VA), started (PF) and a number of former (VA) went with him
>>22420 >Ironically, this problem is a problem that Thomas himself started. As far as we’ve collected, James Fields wasn’t a member of Vanguard America. What really happened was Thomas being incompetent and passing out Vanguard America stuff to random attendees because, in his mind, having the media take photos of everyone with their stuff makes the group look bigger. So Thomas creates a bad situation that puts VA in a bad light, he then decides VA doesn't look good (his fault) and so he creates an offshoot. I misspoke when I said he was a founder, merely high in the ranks. Regardless, I don't think that makes him inherently any more reliable given his track record.
>>22401 Sry, am pleb. Thanks to the mods for reposting it with the proper format. >>22417 >Patriot Front should be working on public exposure of the fbi and work on tarnishing their public reputation This is a good idea. Honestly, it was a very bad look for PF to show up at an anti-abortion rally. I've been to anti-abortion rallies those before. No one there wants any trouble. Anyone remotely sympathetic to PF's cause is going to turned off by their rabble-rousing and invitation of trouble. <Oh, thank goodness, le epic American Fascists are here to protect nigger babies!!1! I feel safe, and not like shit is about to go down!1 They could make a lot of people more sympathetic to them by proving that the FBI is fucking with them. They need to do this before their members get charged with hate crimes (for the vandalism, which they retardedly recorded and kept in a public mega.nz folder of all places). Some thoughts: It does not appear like they operated in a true cell structure. Different chapters communicated with each other. Communication is how people get rekt in this day and age. If they had operated as a cell network with Thomas as the sole link between the different groups, I don't think they would be in this situation. They mention that the mole was on the Rainier hike as well as the Mt White hike. I'm sure that the WA and CA chapters co-mingled on the hike. I think this gets at the confused nature of the organization. What are they really? They're trying to be lots of things. Fitness club. Stickering club. Social club. Nature enjoyers. This lack of true identity and purpose can be seen in their manifesto, as the American Futurist article on them pointed out. DON'T TAKE PICTURES. Why are there so many pictures of them with their masks off? Was it just for future nostalgia, so in 20 years they can remember the time all the bad goys took a hike up Mt Rainier? Fucking retarded. The pictures of their faces serve absolutely no purpose. Every person who pointed a camera at unmasked group members should have been tackled and had the photos forcibly deleted. No excuses for this one. DON'T TAKE PICTURES OF YOUR LADS DOING HATE CRIMES. This one should be even more obvious. At most, to prove that the members did the "activism," have them take a photo of the completed work. A little bit of plausible deniability would go a long way. There was absolutely no reason for them to record themselves *in the act*. Unbelievably stupid, and probably another thing fueled by Thomas' arrogance. Patriot Front looks like it was a major time-commitment for these guys. They had to do x amounts of activism a week. A week. I would constantly be worried if I had to do that, and it would cut into my social time. Maybe these guys don't have very active social lives, but it looks like the org demanded way too much of them--and demanded action that yielded little result except for stroking the ego of the Patriot Front and its leaders. Picrel doesn't bring any people to your cause. I'm a White Nationalist. I don't like that type of art, but if I saw how PF vandalized it, I would think "fucking punks." They're not replacing it with beauty. They managed to create an even uglier image. "Reclaim America" is such a vague platitude--especially when it's a racial message and the previous rainbow mural was a message for fag acceptance. They're mixing their messaging. Even their other slogan, "Strong families create strong nations" would have been much more appropriate here. I don't want to get into nit-picking every single thing they did, but their lack of a compelling message is a huge problem for the group. Thomas Rousseau's ego seems to be a problem. Instead of congratulating his member on the birth of his new baby, he says "I would love to have you at the march." He wasn't as insistent as the pantifa summary made him out to be, but still. Strong families create strong nations, right? A 23 year old should not be telling a father to miss the first few days of his child's life for his own pet rally. Rousseau is obviously very smart, and good at organizing, but I'm not sure he has the humility to realize where his blind spots are.
>>22410 >>22413 You're right, it's also pretty obvious at this point that ZOG is more concerend at this point with quelling pro-White consciousness than disrupting actual violent Muslim extremists. Pro-Whites as organized groups have almost done literally nothing in terms of violence, but they are attempting to come down on us way harder than proportionately would make sense. We all know why, so I won't bother to explain here. We probably need better OPSEC than those people at this point. >>22415 >You think they'll just disband and the members join something else, or will they try to continue? No way this will kill Patriot Front. And if it did all of my respect for them would be completely gone.
>>22422 >I don't like that type of art, but if I saw how PF vandalized it, I would think "fucking punks." They're not replacing it with beauty. They managed to create an even uglier image Good critique here. What I would propose is much easier said than done, but what they need is to take a page from Yukio Mishima and similar types. If they had replaced that mural with some sort of beautiful form of art, even a simple one, it would have much greater impact. It's similar to what Mishima called 'aesthetic terrorism' or 'beautiful terrorism'. Aesthetics is literally everything. If they had thrown up some form of futurist art somehow, or something avant garde yet still pro-White, it would have been perfect.
>>22436 Ah, a real human. >ZOG is more concerend at this point with quelling pro-White consciousness I would almost go as far to say this is the primary focus of ZOG at this time. It would appear that nearly ALL of ZOG's efforts are focused on this singular goal. Whites are in the early stages of a new enlightenment.
>>22436 What antifa grabbed here is enough evidence to slap Thomas with a heavy hand and roll every member of patriot front up nder the RICO act. They blatantly and brazenly committed crimes, including robbery, kidnapping(their repeated trafficking of minors across state lines and easily could be constituted as Human Trafficking with even a halfway decent prosecutor) and dealing in "obscene matter" which their propagand a could very easily be considered, all this while communicating and cooperating across state lines. It doesn't matter how petty it is, for RICO charges to be brought, the feds can and will do it, and if they don't sweep all or most of the 230 members of patriot front up, we have definite confirmation they are a network of informants and no proper National Socialist should speak or associate with any of them, from here on out.
>>22481 Not really. And you replied to someone completely out of context. You smell like a bad faith actor to me
>>22484 I replied to his moronic if patriot front is kill I lose all respect for them, one shouldn't have any to begin with but everything I said there is true, they regularly had their members stealing and burning the property of others which qualifies as arson too, and there is plenty of video proof. Go read the fucking RICO act for yourself, Patriot Front is fucked as may be many people who worked with them and they did it to themselves.
>>22484 >You smell like a bad faith actor to me He is. He's the dedicated shill for this thread to make people hate a visible pro-White movement. They've assigned dozens to 4chan, but apparently one is enough for this board. Imagine being someone on a tiny imageboard with 33 posts in a single thread crying about PF. >>22463 I agree. I have even theorized that Covid in a sense might have been primarily deployed against Whites more than anything else. The harshest lockdowns and vaccine policies, needless to say, are in White countries. And right before Covid we saw a wave of pro-White attacks and rising consciousness among Whites at Charlottesville, the entire Alt-Right phenomenon, and many other things.
>>22493 Yes, totally a bad faith actor, posting under the same ID and not TOR to make me uber identifiable. To any anon's who actually have their heads on straight notice how the PF shills in this thread and in any other thread never respond to the facts I bring up about patriuot front whatsoever Fact: They were and still are committing crimes, ranging from robbery(stealing signs and flags and other leftist branded paraphernalia) to arson(burning that parphernalia) to Kidnapping(moving minors across state lines without parental permission specifically to perform illegal activities such as Vandalism, Robbery and Arson, the proof is all right up there on the Unicorn Riot website) Response: you are a bad faith actor This example alone should show you who's actually thinking and who's not.
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>>22495 >crying and shitting himself over Tor Ooh, shill confirmed.
>>22496 Don't really care about TOR, point is I'm not using it, wonderfully avoiding the point though.
>>22493 Indeed. As the "disease" and "vaccines" progress, the operation appears to have been less about the disease and vaccines themselves and more about the laws, measures, and psychic attack of the operation. For a small few, the operation has not only been unsuccessful, it has actually provided a means of even further awakening. I will not elaborate further at this time.
>>22500 Spot on, anon. For many, Covid-19 has only led to increased radicalization of even those who are not nominally in our circles. It is leading people closer, either way. I know for me, I have felt as if I have become far more 'radical' since the beginning of this, because they have become so blatantly evil and tyrannical that it is literally impossible to ignore at this point. It is impossible for my eyes to be closed at this point, if it was ever even impossible before. They have made a mistake, I think. Trust in the government is not easily restored.
>>22501 Radical, sure. I was radicalized years ago. The hoax hasn't changed my position, nor my sentiments. Rather, I have gained insight into the machinations, the functioning of the beast. More robust understanding of the nature of the propaganda, the means and methods of the shilling. The reality creation and control. More importantly, I have finally begun to understand how we will destroy the system and those who created it. It goes far beyond "le ebil jewish interests" and "White insurrectionist terror cells/freedom fighters."
>>22501 >Covid-19 has only led to increased radicalization of even those who are not nominally in our circles Absolutely, millions.
Tell me you are a massive faggot, without telling me what dick tastes like. >They blatantly and brazenly committed crimes, including robbery, kidnapping(their repeated trafficking of minors across state lines and easily could be constituted as Human Trafficking with even a halfway decent prosecutor) and dealing in "obscene matter" which their propagand a could very easily be considered, all this while communicating and cooperating across state lines. >they regularly had their members stealing and burning the property of others which qualifies as arson too >They were and still are committing crimes, ranging from robbery(stealing signs and flags and other leftist branded paraphernalia) to arson(burning that parphernalia) to Kidnapping(moving minors across state lines without parental permission specifically to perform illegal activities such as Vandalism, Robbery and Arson, the proof is all right up there on the Unicorn Riot website)
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>>22510 >robbery (((They))) cannot get PF on robbery, as it robbery is anyone "with intent to steal takes anything of value from the person or in the presence of another, against his will, by means of force or violence or fear of immediate or future injury to his person or property or to the person or property of a relative or member of his family or of anyone in his company at the time of the robbery." >arson Would not be arson. In Michigan, where the flag burning occurred, the burning of flag (given its low $ value) is not a felony, and could only be a misdemeanor for a person with a prior conviction. >vandalism Depends on whether the "value of the damage is less than $400," then "the crime will be filed as a misdemeanor. If the value of the damage is $400 or more, you may be charged with a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the circumstances." PF could be escaping by the skin of their teeth on this one. (((They))) are good at appraising art at high cost. I hope PF has good lawyers. ZOG could also hit some members with conspiracy. But I'm not sure they could get the whole group--nor would it be financially expedient for them to do as is it costs millions of dollars for the FBI to bring a person to trial. >conspiracy <If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. <If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor. Misdemeanor conspiracy charges would stick easily. They would not, however, carry that much of a penalty as they're limited by the punishment of the misdemeanor. But if some of vandalism can turn into a felony, that's Bad News Bears (which by the way--I just looked up--was not written by or directed by jews. I miss those days of wholesome Aryan comedy, bros). Hopefully PF can get the money to afford good lawyers. I would be happy to send some Monero if they and NJP set up a fundraiser. I normally don't give anyone any money, but this would be an occasion where it would really benefit everyone if the whole community came together. >potentially a RICO if they "retaliat[e] against a witness, victim, or an informant (see section 1513 of law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1961) I hope PF doesn't do this. I understand the temptation. Beyond those things, I am not sure what they could hit the whole group with. Luckily PF has stayed away from violent crime and felonies. Thomas is probably fucked if they can make vandalism a felony. Same with whomever rekt the divesity murals. It might be the best thing for the /the struggle/ if 200 some guys form their own small groups and grow from there. I'm not a fan of what PF has done for White advocacy.
>>22481 Commiting crimes is a good thing. Death to ZOG/pigs and jew worshippers.
Reposting from 4cuck, take with a grain of salt: "So Patriot Front had a data breach and info from it was leaked. And some anon on a forum was able to find one asshole behind the leaking of Patriot Front. And yes the idiot is who you believe. A fat antifa fag who is almost 50 years old who still lives at his parents. If you wanna take a look here https://pastebin.com/MYWQ7X48 the guy on the forum who shared the info has this message to all political enemies "I have your IP, your home address too, your government files say a lot about you!"" Pastebin archive: https://archive.fo/N5zRV
>>22481 >repeated trafficking of minors across state lines and easily could be constituted as Human Trafficking There is no way that's true. I can get like them doing vandalism but this is off. Why would that do that?
>>22531 Committing crimes that actually get us somewhere yes, petty vandalism and theivery, arson, they're being a nuisance more to the people they wish to appeal to than they are doing anything of worth >>22568 Read the article, they have members who are minors and pushed and encouraged and offered to, and presumably did, aid them in going across state lines without parental permission, all of this is right in their leaked communications, that is a federal crime and a felony >>22519 >Conspiracy From Thomas on down they encouraged people to commit petty crimes and provided documentation and even direct advice on how to do it, and they even encouraged minors to commit the petty vandalism and thievery as well, which would slap considering the volume and widespread commission of the act, get them rolled up with Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor charges as well, Conspiracy charges are pretty well in hand given this information. >>22551 If you actually look at the leaks there were/are several infiltrators, I wouldn't be surprised if one was someone with admin privilege's on their server.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwYEKg1gNBc You know if you don't want media attention you could just make the entire movement with the purpose of exposing the israeli lobby while pushing open borders for isreal. You could just kick out members who want to focus on countries other than israel. The movement could go around covering up BLM graffiti and murals of floyds fat lips pic related. Also instead of making hortler windmills why not just paint star of davids on ADL property everywhere, they cant make it a symbol of hate and the message is just as clear. I don't care if its subversive, its will to power.
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>>22573 >22510 >Exaggerated lies Kill yourself low IQ kike >>22573 >"arson" >spends massive amounts of time on some irrelevant manufactured allegations by ZOG. Don't care faggot. The niggers brainlets like you worship burned down entire city blocks. Nobody was arrested, no one laments that. Ever even though cctv exists. Effortless mass phone tracking post and live event exists. But everyone knows that it's a one way street as we know it where the law only applies to who ZOG wants it to apply to. Don't care about your law or courts you concern trolling nigger. America is a third world shithole that will convict innocent people for disagreeing, have "patriot acts" which can put you in prison indefinitely if some jew nkvdfbiciansanigger decides, america and law is two sentences that don't go together, the law of your banana republic is highly irrelevant amerinigger.
>>22575 None of what I said is exaggerated, If anything their charges will be worse than anything I have said, after all ZOG is better at making up shit to throw at people than I am. The evidence that Antifa acquired and has likely been sent off to the feds(probably the FBI side of the joint anti-terrorism squad mentioned in the article) of Patriot Front members and it's leader doing everything I have claimed is in the leaks themselves. The thing is, they have nothing to show for it, they will end up in jail, not as heroes but as petty fucking criminals, they will not be remembered for anything but waging a multi-state ridiculous spray paint and sticker war with niggers and jews, and being retarded enough not only to record it every time, but to mandate their members record the shit and as a result have their cellphones and ZOG approved devices on them while doing so AS RECOMMENEDED BY THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF. (pic related) You fucking cucks come at me with accusations of being a bad faith actor or a liar. I'm not, the evidence is already there for you to peruse at your leisure, or are you too afraid to use a VPN, or TOR, or both, to download the shit from them? no, you'd rather sit on your ass lauding a bunch of cowards who run around putting up Promotional Materials, sucking at even basic fitness, and nothing else, and these fucking leaks prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. The point of recognizing that the law only applies as ZOG wishes it to is to free yourself of restrictions or restraint and to take the most effective action at every opportunity, whereas Patriot Front either didn't recognize that at all or did and still chose to do what is essentially busy work, that had no appreciable effect whatsoever, it drove just as many people away from them as it did people toward them as evidenced by their membership stagnation despite active recruitment efforts. Oh btw they'll accept quadroons or even quarter jews into their number, so long as they have at least 75% European heritage as proved right in the PDF I link as well.
>>22582 >they'll accept quadroons or even quarter jews [ctlr-f] jew 0 results ============== >If the Interviewee admits to being outside our membership criteria due to ethnic >background, criminal history, ideological contradiction, or other factors, conclude the >interview and remove them from the selection process. >Note: An Interviewee must claim at least 75% European ethnic lineage, and be born within >America to qualify. Single-generation assimilation is possible with Canadians or other >similar post-colonial nations,but this must be decided on a case-by-case basis. >Maintaining a strong foreign accent or claiming to be another nationality but American is >an example of non-assimilation and is not to be tolerated. >SEQ3.1: Disregarding citizenship or government status, can migratory foreigners ‘become’ >American with the proper cultural or social conditioning? Is there an ethnic component'' >to being an American? Why or why not?'' >The Interviewee must understand the laws dictating the structure and membership of a >nation in compliance with the Hierarchy of Identity. >SEQ4: How many generations has your family been in America? From where did they >originate? How would you describe yourself ethnically? >A brief family history will uncover a great deal about the honesty of the individual, and >will also circumvent any pitfalls relating to undiscovered extranational origins. ================= >accusations of being a bad faith actor You? No, certainly not
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Here's a thorough refutation of patriot front for those interested https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-2-rated-r-for-retarded/ >Sometimes sequels are better than the original. For those unaware, Patriot Front recently had a massive data leak including things like all their chatlogs, pictures of membership’s faces (interesting story how they got this), voice call recordings, and much more. 90% of what’s in the leaks is not going to be posted here since it’s either just banal bullshit or unironic dox information, so that will not be posted. >However, we will link to the Unicorn Riot article detailing this link after an internal decision that it must be included as it links to the evidence of what we write about. If we don’t, then we’re just going to be screeched at by PF Shills that we have no proof, so fuck it, we’re going to link it. If you want to read this for yourself from the source, read it here: unicornriot.ninja/2022/patriot-front-fascist-leak-exposes-nationwide-racist-campaigns/ >Now let’s get into the information leaked that is actually of note, shall we? If you haven’t already, read my first Patriot Front article here(https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-a-lesson-in-insanity/). >>22583 It doesn't exclude quarter jews, does it? Does it fail to mention quadroons too? 75% ethnic european heritage minimum means 75% ethnic european heritage minimum. The optics cuckery is apparent even in their internal documents, such a shame.
>>22588 I always expect someone who uses the word 'patriot' unironically to be a retard.
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>>19368 >implying that PF would even be allowed to sniff the tires of Lolita Express Anon, I... >>19380 >Don't care about condom, already been pozzed many times... Ok. >>19381 >PF is the smartest group out there right now. Smart*est*. Doesn't have to be smart per se. Also, face it. The J6 boomers are running the show now with ther MO^ON ^ABEH flags and shit. Attending a Pro Life rally while most of the evangelicals are trying to woo the black people by saying that most aborted are blacks? Yeah, looks really good on paper! XD Also, Thomas the Manlet had one member to like beg for forgiveness for having the gall to attend his child's birth. Total cult warning there! >>19371 >Read Siege, Translation: It's not my job to educate you, SHITLORD! Here's two interesting takes on Thomas the T-deficient's shitshow: https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-a-lesson-in-insanity/ https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-2-rated-r-for-retarded/ It's not even a shitshow in the way that brazilian scat movies with trannies are, because at least someone gets something out of it. This is just toxic shit that doesn't even make the roses grow. >>19390 What fag film is this? Someone made money on the easily entertained? Good for them! >>19466 >dildo fixation
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>>22582 Damn you seem to have it in for these guys even more than the jews do
>>22588 The article seems very disingenuous. Apart from parroting the exact same talking points from the /mlp/riot faggots and on shills on 4chaim. Take the video >>22598 for example. The article links to a vid of a bar bouncer saying "this is how to do a 1 second pat down", specifically looking for weapons like a knife or a gun. For a bouncer with a line of 50 people to go through, time is of essence. Likewise intrusiveness is a concern. The (PF) "instructional" video he is intentionally going at half speed to demonstrate hand placement and movements. It is also trying to cover every square inch of the subject specifically looking for a WIRE. A much smaller and harder to find object than a fucking 9mm gun.
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Funny how the site being linked to attack PF in this thread is a site dedicated to constantly shitting out threads in favor of James Mason, SEEJ, Charles Manson and other losers. Just like I thought, a bunch of pedophiles, Satanists and shills.
>>22601 >The (PF) "instructional" video he is intentionally going at half speed to demonstrate hand placement and movements. It is also trying to cover every square inch of the subject specifically looking for a WIRE. A much smaller and harder to find object than a fucking 9mm gun. A WIRE doesn't literally have to be a wire... Still faggy AF and doesn't even account for bugs integrated in belt buckles etc. Now, once more but with long sleeves on. It's less feelings so.
>>22604 >noooo you can't shill for the thing you like you have to shill for the thing I like
>>22610 They should just get naked and have their meeting like that. That's gold standard opsec. But what if someone hid a wire inside their assholes?
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>>22603 >Wow, a site full of articles shilling for James Mason, SEEJ and Kaleb Cole, a literal pedophile. Not surprising. He claims to be former (AW) and at the end of article tells people to join nsorder and some tele.fed group. I'm sure both may have been started by legit volk but at same time would assume they have some level of infiltration. Telegram has cucked on multiple occasions turning over supposedly secure communications to authorities. So for all his claims about the pitfalls of digit coms, tele.fed (as far as I know still requires your cell phone number) is apparently fine according to him >>22610 >Still faggy AF Repressed feelings being projected. If that turns you on then that's your problem >doesn't even account for bugs integrated Nothing is 100%, so don't bother trying? >Now, once more but with long sleeves on ? have no idea what you are trying to say. The subject is in t shirt, the demo is clearly a how to
>>22615 I am fine with him shilling for a few groups he thinks are of value. I would also take issue if (PF) went out of their way to flame and discredit nsorder without good cause to do so. But americanfuturist is parroting the same points from trannies. His whole "oh my its creepy" to want to make some effort to vet members rings hallow. To take note during a home visit of tidiness, drug/alcohol abuse, and/or if it appears member is a degenerate. If (PF) made stupid mistakes in opsec its fine to point that out. But that doesn't give license to make baseless claims that its just a grift. The article literally states the cost to (PF) for the DC march alone was $12K, from the looks of the video channels they are doing dozens of other smaller events each year. Obviously there are going to be costs to the group. In an audio leak from couple months ago Thomas is heard saying he lived with his dad and that he was going to need to arrange a ride for himself, that if he couldn't get a ride he might have to rent a car. So for all his grift he apparently can't afford to buy a car I guess.
>>22616 I'm sure the FBI hides all their wires inside their assholes, so this pat down is completely obsolete.
>>22615 >>noooo you can't shill for the thing you (i.e. pedophilia and satanism) like you have to shill for the thing I like (saving the White race)
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>>22622 Agreed this hit piece by "Tim Turtle" on American Futurist makes some good points about PF opsec issues, but is also very emotional and grasps at straws in other places. To the point he almost seems ecstatic, and happy to be part of crowdsourcing ways to fuck over PF members further by pointing out very specific things they could be charged with or ways their members could be blacklisted from their jobs. It's hard to imagine leftists spending this much energy to tear down a doxed antifa branch. So I have to question the author's motive. Something I also noticed is the article uses a lot of the same talking points as the anon in this thread like "charged with RICO" even before the article was published, and has similarities in writing style. Not sure if the anon here is that author but it all gives off a strange vibe. Ultimately I'd like to assume good intentions but there are better ways to go about this, and Tim Turtle's tone and approach comes across to me as suspect. I do agree with a lot of the stuff I've read on the American Futurist website, but I'm more way about their agenda now. Or maybe it is isolated to this one author that has gone a bit too far here in my opinion. I'll have to read his new book here https://ia801502.us.archive.org/35/items/futuriststate-3/Futuriststate3.pdf to understand where he is coming from.
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>>22622 That pedophilia claim was already addressed. Mason just had a 15 year old girlfriend which is after puberty. So you're perhaps exaggerating a bit, don't you think?
>>22629 We're all familiar with the toddler rape fics that your group puts out, Schlomo. You can't fool us.
>>22619 >1. Do pat downs in secluded woods >2. Slow and oh so sensual >3. If subject gets a stiffy, put a bullet in their head Nice >>22627 I stopped by 4/pol/ the night of leak and the RICO narrative was in full swing >>22629 In 1991 at the age of 39 he was caught with pornographic photos of a 15 yr old. Three years later in '94 at the age of 42, it was a different presumably a different 16 year old ex girlfriend with a bf that he threatened with a gun. If it was the same girl then I guess she was 15 when he went to jail in '93 and younger still when the pics were found in '91. But your right he sounds like a wholesome guy that found a young wife and raised a large family of Aryan soldiers, he doesn't sound like a pervert at all. Oh wait...that's not at all how this play out, is it?
>>22631 I'm not part of a group I just prefer facts to heresay. But I'm not familiar with these toddler rape fics can you lay it out with proof to clear everything up? That's probably best to not waste our time. >>22635 I don't know if he's a wholesome guy, but it doesn't sound like he's a pedophile either based on the specifics you've laid out. Beyond that it's speculation and gossip. >I stopped by 4/pol/ the night of leak and the RICO narrative was in full swing Oh that makes sense I don't go there so I wouldn't have seen it. Still kind of strange that this American Futurist guy is running with a narrative from 4chan and you as well.
>>22622 Patriot fags are about as likely to save the White race as pedophilia and satanism.
>>22600 I will always "have it in" for those who harm the cause of National Socialism, even if they claim to have good intentions, I have a very good nose for sniffing out Traitors, one reason why I cannot stand Christniggers, as everything they say or do reeks of traitorhood. >>22601 The article isn't disingenuous, it is insulting and perhaps a bit passionate but the proof of every claim is but a few clicks away, save the testimony of his scouts who went inside Patriot Front. As for finding Wires, they're retarded there are devices one can find and acquire that detect electronic signals, bug finders I think they're called and you can get ones police use for about $200(https://www.spyguy.com/products/t-9-specialty-rf-detector?msclkid=44327a275e3a1876e5d11bc815e186a3&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20NB%20-%20US&utm_term=4583863989941264&utm_content=NB%20-%20t-9%20specialty%20bug%20detector%20(shopify_us_293739329_695287145)) and probably better for more, and they didn't tell anybody not to bring the helpful spy/bug/tracker in your pocket. >>22617 As far as I can ascertain NSC131 does nothing but provide Social Services to poor/struggling Whites in NE and provide social spaces and network for NS men in the region, maybe they do more but keep it off of telegram, idk and neither do you, and burner cells exist and are usable for telegram as are fake numbers bought for like a cent from seedy russian websites or those from cellphone apps for phones, but those require more money. >>22627 I am not Tim Turtle, he and I just happen to share some views. he is, for instance, willing to associate with Christniggers and other Abrahamist scum and Satanists, I am not. >>22635 4/pol/ isn't always wrong, RICO charges are certainly a possibility, especially considering the example of the KKK within the article. >>22638 The faggot you're talking is referring to Iron Gates, an O9A tome whose supposed purpose is to dehumanize oneself and "face to bloodshed and has some fucked up shit within, I have never read it but have hung around enough telegram groups to get a synopsis but what he's doing is being disingenuous, he assumes very incorrectly that only O9A/Tempel Ov Blood members read SIEGE, those types are responsible for much of the supposed Siege aesthetic, which I personally think would more accurately be described as O9A aesthetic that they associated with SIEGE but that's me.
>>22642 Look at the SEEJ nigger throwing up smokescreen, and pretending that O9A, Tempel of Blood and AWD are all completely different groups with no overlap at all. James Mason himself is a pedo. The funny thing is that you don't even denounce this pedo smut literature, you try to waffle and cope your way out of it. Pedos get the rope.
>>22647 Being disingenuous again, I see. I have never read Iron Gates, nor did I see the point in disavowing obvious subversive literature thought that was implied. I tend to avoid reading things that scream subversive from the word go. O9A is the British chapter of the "religion" that David Myatt created aping NS and many Aryan and Abrahamic concepts all along the way, Tempel Ov Blood is the American chapter created by and currently headed up by Joshua Sutter, who is the mind behind Iron Gates, and seeks to differentiate himslef from Myatt with very retarded and edgy aesthetics and books, and if I recall both are known Government Informants, Myatt for MI5 and Sutter for FBI. AWD was an organization that tried to follow Turner Diaries and Siege, both rather poorly, and had much too loose membership requirements. It had a few too many cells end up in the hands of subversives like Tempel Ov Blood niggers, or had too many people with too greatly differing beliefs within it. This led to unfortunate events such as the murder of NS men by a White Muslim they let into a cell. All told, a failure of an organization for many of the same reasons as Patriot Front, but the three things are separate things, and anybody who seeks to lump them together is leaving themselves open to subversion by them and seeks to keep others ignorant of the Truth. SIEGE does not belong to them, it is James Mason's work and he doesn't endorse any organization merely works with those who wish to reach out to him and discuss things, and furthermore he outright tells people in his book not to associate with him, or any of the Old Guard that still remains, as they are all on Federal Surveillance lists.
>>22649 Wow, so you admit that all of these people are freaks, feds and failures and you still shill their garbage on this board? Fuck off, shill.
>>22650 Yet more disingenuous behavior, I have shilled nothing of theirs, Tim Turtle of the American Futurist is a former member of AWD and regularly talks shit about the failures of AWD like he does to any other organization found to be a danger to the National Socialist cause. You would know this if you had read even just the two articles of theirs posted in this thread. Note also, that I have not recommended anyone follow Tim Turtle or anybody else there or even James Mason religiously, nor have I recommended any of Tempel Ov Blood's or Myatt's works whatsoever, neither have any value, unless you wish to understand the minds of those who do follow such things, the age old Know Thy Enemy type shit. As for Siege which I assume you are focusing most on, as you mistakenly think it promotes Satanism, or anything aside from National Socilaism, it doesn't. LaVey was mentioned once in the book, in a neutral light, as at the time nobody knew he was a jew, as far as I know. SIEGE is naught but a book written by a man who has been awake as a National Socialist since he was 14 years old. Who has watched the failures of the movement occur for the last 55 years and decided to write a book outlining those failures and how to avoid those pitfalls sometime in the 80's and has updated it and added some to it when people have reached out to republish it. It's main focus isn't even on violence, but more primarily System Dropout, and creating tribes similar to that which Charles Manson created. The only person here being a shill is you, and that is abundantly clear when you chose to do nothing but cast aspersions with no proof to back it up.
>>22641 Don't think anyone that supports, even if only tacitly, thinks they are going to save the White race nor even effect meaningful change by themselves. The group is simply advocating for Whites and Nationalistic ideals. They don't claim to be the successors to the NSDAP. They are trying to engage in on the ground activism that counters BML/Antifa/Globohomo fags to the greatest degree they can short of being designated a terrorist organization. As long as their greatest crime is stickering (ie petty misdemeanor vandalism) that shouldn't be a worry. No one else is on the ground doing anything. Yet here you all are attacking them for seemingly no reason aside from the fact they are not shooting niggers and jews. >>22642 >I will always "have it in" for those who harm the cause of National Socialism, even if they claim to have good intentions How exactly are they actively harming NS in the United States? In what way have they done MORE HARM than any other group? >The article isn't disingenuous, it is insulting and perhaps a bit passionate but the proof of every claim is but a few clicks away Bullshit, half of the article is conjecture and opinion. If there was actual evidence, fucking faggots wouldn't shut up about it would they? Nothing so far points to anything greater than maybe some lapses in judgement.
>>22617 >The subject is in t shirt, the demo is clearly a how to Yeah, because it's so much better when people have to do extra mental calculations for what's not there and so on. The patdown video showed how items could be hidden. So it would be just easier to have a policy of no long sleeves during meetings. >>22618 >But that doesn't give license to make baseless claims that its just a grift. Yeah, do you hear that >>22615? Grift implies intelligence and intention. Thomas the Brainfart has none, since he handed out VA gear at C'ville in order to PUMP UP the appearance of VA being hugus biggus. >>22635 >>22629 What if the child consents, tho'?
>>22651 >LaVey was mentioned once in the book, in a neutral light Not really helping your case here, pedo-kun. It doesn’t even matter if he’s a kike—anyone shilling for homosexuals like Aleister Crowley or Crowleyan ideas gets the rope. No one gives a shit about the homosexuals and losers that you keep shilling on this board. You are the /fascist/ equivalent of an eceleb poster on 4cuck. Muh Manson, muh Mason, muh Turtle!
Der ewig Kritiker. Well at least now you've fully laid out where you stand and what specific details are your hangups so they can be evluated on their own merit.
>>22647 >Tempel of Blood >not Tempel ov Blood Anon, I...
>>22652 Your first paragraph is pretty much exactly how I feel. The only thing I will criticize is their tendency to record video of every act of vandalism they do. It's unnecessary and stupid from an opsec standpoint.
>>22681 Ah yes baseless accusations of Pedophilia, do you have any sort of argument at all? or is throwing around meaningless words all you're capable of? Nobody shilled Crowleyan ideas least of all James Mason to quote SIEGE directly in the only mention of him within Section 9.32 of the attached PDF <Anton Szandor LaVey once pointed out that never shall the minds of those be terrorized who know and believe in what is best for them. To me, a spooky, easily frightened, shaky, reluctant, flaky person is the saddest, most disgusting thing around. Just like looking at an animal with its tail tucked between its legs and shivering at the mere thought of its master's rolled-up newspaper. Most people today are just like this. They are not worthy of liberty be cause, not only can't they handle it - they haven't got the guts to take it and hold it. Give me the type of individual who will take "Master's" fucking leg off or, to borrow from Commander Rockwell's simile of the horse and the leader, stomp his brains out. The Foreword written by somebody from Iron March mentions LaVey a few times and speaks of Mason's admiration of him, most likely from the perspective of an enemy respecting a foe worthy of his attention or admiring the skill of an opponent, considering he must know now of LaVey's jewish heritage, but I am not Mason and I do not know his thoughts.
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>>22651 >as you mistakenly think it promotes Satanism James Mason is a satanist. He's a literal nobody kike who was inspired by LaVey's neo-nazism and, LARPs as a NS when he's just some neo-nazi as well who's probably designed to make us look bad. It's no conicidence that this guy has had so many neo-nazi sodomites who have only read siege outside of all things. NS and satanism are incompatible as we both detest each other and have killed satanists before.
>>22717 Why are you still shilling for these faggots here? Are you the same nigger who was shilling for a pro-homosexual and pro-pedophile spic in the other thread? You sure seem like it. It would add up, since you seem to latch onto specific threads and shit them up with faggotry, satanism and other forms of degeneracy. We all know that Mason loved (((Howard Stanton Levy))), and hung out with race-mixing teen girls!
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>>22652 >How exactly are they actively harming NS in the United States? In what way have they done MORE HARM than any other group? Let's see, to start they have had a very wide reaching shill network, no doubt helped along by the moderators on 4cuck they had actively looking out for their interests, and their connections with the kike running NJP(purely a grift) that has reached even here. That connection and mutual interplay also implies that they wish to attempt the electoral path to victory, something their slogans and those they try to appeal to with their disgusting aesthetics also indicates. The above mentioned shills may be members as often as not, but they go out of their way to stifle and suppress discussion of any methods of resistance, or work, or strategy in the NS cause other than their own. They badmouth everybody else as advocating for "doing nothing" even when one provides workable, relatively safe and more effective actions such as what is outlined in the First Article on PF posted in the thread. They actively shill against reading SIEGE which holds the outline of methods we have open to us, those methods that will achieve results, even if they're not flashy and attractive, it holds little advice for those seeking to go all out and attack the system like Breivik or Tarrant or Root, or Matthews, Lane and the Silent Brotherhood, that advice is found elsewhere. Among those methods is not sticker/banner/spray-paint campaigns and marches in D.C, the only actions PF has ever taken, none of which counter Antifa in any meaningful or long lasting way, who promptly undo whatever damage they did and many times it's not undone by Antifa but regular citizens of the US, people whom their antics annoy and trouble, rather than attract them. The problem, and many ways they actively harm the cause, with groups like PF is outlined with brutal logic and efficiency in Siege. They harm the movement more than other groups by holding a clutch on it keeping it from evolving past 2016 and the ultimate failure of that pathetic march in Charlottesville, keeping it firmly in the past, trying like nearly every group before to ape the bright and inspirational half of Adolf Hitler's rise to power while neglecting the amount of violence he had to use, and did use, to achieve his goals and counter his enemies. >If there was actual evidence, fucking faggots wouldn't shut up about it would they? There are the logs of their servers, and numerous pictorial and video evidence or did you not investigate what Antifa has released for yourself?
>>22719 Mason is not a Satanist, last I checked he held the same position as Hitler on the religious question, leave it be until we can clean house after we win, and he has professed some Christian Identitarian beliefs but as far as I know he remains on the Athiestic side of belief, in general. He also associated with and was more than willing to work with Commies, Niggers, and other objectionable elements, if it helped achieve National Socialist goals, so it's not a refutation, or an argument to associate with Satanists who aided him and helped him accomplish his goals, it's called being resourceful, and not refusing aid when it's given, Hitler did many similar things on his rise to power. >>22720 Just more bullshit, on top of bullshit. I'm not advocating for Satanism or degeneracy in the slightest or for faggotry. Mason admired LeVay's work, that's blatantly obvious, but he never became a Satanist and never joined his "church". As for the Race mixing girl how many of us don't know a race mixer? I know several who used to be friends, some former coworkers, to live in this world currently we have little choice, unless we are fortunate enough to be born in an entirely White community or to have sidestepped around the systems restrictions and dropped out, but to associate with racemixers, even in Alaska and Montana, and Idaho, and Washington, there is little choice as niggers exist in all three of those places in larger numbers than you may think.
>>22726 Notice how people never EVER attack the book for what it says, they just attack the credibility of the author with a bunch of made up accusations.
>>22727 >Mason is not a Satanist, last I checked he held the same position as Hitler on the religious question Mason is a satanist and the fact that you only have only empty statements and claims is evidence that you're a shill. He doesn't even remotely share the same beliefs as Hitler for he was an edgelord. > also associated with and was more than willing to work with Commies, Niggers, and other objectionable elements, if it helped achieve National Socialist goals None of this shit helps us at all. He was a Jude and that's something you're struggling hard to defend, because of said connections. You can't achieve your goals by assocating with people who want to destroy and subvert our beliefs. What the hell would satanist help us with, acting like kikes? Raping children to own the Jews out of the benefit of being edgy? Fuck off kike. >Mason admired LeVay's work Mason more than just admired LeVay's work, he also promoted his satanism and assoicated with literal degenerates who advocate sodomy. >As for the Race mixing girl how many of us don't know a race mixer? Circular reasoning and deflecting my point of how he has many points of outsing himself as a potential CO or bad egg. National Socialists do not associate nor approve of mix-racers or miscegenation. There is no gain in working with them and your shrug-off goes to show that you do not take our truths seriously. You're on thin-ice as a JIDF shill or just a really dumb autistic spic.
>>22730 Nice IP hop
>>22730 >(1) >samefagging >acting as siege is a necessary philosophy when it's just a book created as to the purpose of being edgy You're pathetic anon.
>>22732 Schizo >>22731 Okay none of that is true but even if it were what are you problems with the actual book in response to its criticism of movement shit like PF?
>>22734 You're such an obvious IP hop that's it's not even funny. It's time to ban these shills.
>>22733 How is it edgy? Its a biography of the NS movement in America following Rockwell's death. You seem like everyone else who shits on it, you haven't read it and even lack a basic understanding of the gist. There is a lot of a good information and views in the book, regardless of whatever false ideas you have about Mason in your head. >>22735 I saw something I agree with now I am here to support it.
>>22734 >Okay none of that is true You're free to prove me wrong, but you won't. >but even if it were what are you problems with the actual book That's it's only asssoication to NS is that Mason acts nothing as a National Socialist, but a neo-nazi who tries to use it as a way to be a degenerate.
>>22727 >I'm not advocating for Satanism or degeneracy in the slightest or for faggotry. You are shilling for James Mason, and thus shilling for Satanism, and in shilling for Satanism, you shill for homosexual Aleister Crowley, and kike Anton LaVey, and by extension pedophile groups like O9A and a whole load of feds. >Mason admired LeVay's work, that's blatantly obvious That's all we need to know. Mason hung out with Satanists and admired the work of a literal hooknosed crowleyite KIKE . >As for the Race mixing girl how many of us don't know a race mixer? More coping. Mason literally hung out with race-mixers teen girls. This is much different from just 'knowing' one. Now it looks like you're samefagging too. Pathetic
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>>22736 >I saw something I agree with now I am here to support it. <I'm not a samefag! t. samefag
>>22736 >How is Siege edgy I more so meant that its author is an edgelord who doesn't follow most of his own writings and is a pedophie.
>>22737 >You're free to prove me wrong, but you won't. You've provided no evidence he was a satanist, simply that he associated with a satanist. You made a claim without any evidence in the first place. >That's it's only asssoication to NS is that Mason acts nothing as a National Socialist, but a neo-nazi who tries to use it as a way to be a degenerate. How exactly has he "used it as a way to be a degenerate"? Again, please critique the points brought up in the book which directly address the ideological problems with activity like PF.
>>22719 I'm not going to get mad at a guy for having a 15 yo goth gf. And the pics you posted aren't really definitive of him being a satanist. The last part of your 4th pic is the only tangible claim against him although not sure how true it is.
>>22742 Lol wow now you jumped on Tor. This is getting ridiculous.
>>22741 >You've provided no evidence he was a satanist >the guy hangs around with satanists >gives approving thoughts of satanists >shills and was inspired by a satanist >tries to get National Socialists to act like satanists >has a GF who dresses as a satanist >he totally wasn't a satanist guise!!! He matches more than five points in signs that he is a satanist. >How exactly has he "used it as a way to be a degenerate"? Same way sodomites want Marxism to create a cultural change to make shoving dildos up their asses to be free from purchase and society to be revolved around gay shit. >please critique the points brought up in the book which directly address the ideological problems with activity like PF The fact that he his books spews the same shit as American neo-nazi.
>>22744 >You've provided no evidence he was a satanist >the guy hangs around with satanists >gives approving thoughts of satanists None of these make him a satanist >shills and was inspired by a satanist Where was he 'inspired' by one? That implies its a major influence on his work when it isn't. >tries to get National Socialists to act like satanists Where, how? >has a GF who dresses as a satanist Doesn't make him a satanist. >Same way sodomites want Marxism to create a cultural change to make shoving dildos up their asses to be free from purchase and society to be revolved around gay shit. How, where has he done this? >The fact that he his books spews the same shit as American neo-nazi. How? That isn't true at all. You know nothing of his work and I either being deliberately disingenuous or are just ignorant of anything he has brought up as a point which is WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>>22745 >None of these make him a satanist If you regularly hang out with and praise Satanists, you approve of Satanism. This is basic logic. Hang out with kikes regularly, you're either a kike, or a kike-sympathizer yourself. Same with Satanism. Ergo, Mason approved of degeneracy and Satanism. You're samefagging is really embarrassing
>>22738 Not same fagging, I was taking a shit and cooking dinner, what happens on fascist when I'm otherwise engaged isn't my problem. You assholes are the real shills because in every single thread I have talked in, in recent months, anyone agreeing with an even remotely pro accelerationist position is immediately accused of being a Samefag, and as I've said before I post from ONE IP, no other.
>>22720 >hung out with race-mixing teen girls! His ex-gf dated a spic after him when he was in jail. You need a lot of literary license to change that into what you are saying
>>22747 The only thing it proves is hes edgy and associated with other edgelords, LaVey was pretty gay but its not like he was some intense theological satanist, and most of those other guys were national socialists like Moynihan. Again, none of this proves he was some theological satanist type which appears the be the basis for your entire claim. Please discuss the book.
nobody is ever able to dispute the actual content of the book itself...
>>22743 I only ever post on Tor. I don't care about Mason or PF, just calling things like I see them. When someone is making emotional appeals, and trying to do character assassination without proofs I'm not going to buy it without solid proofs. Since I don't want to be a follower of Mason's I don't care if he's a flawed edgelord, I would just take what is useful from his book. I don't like christianity either but I wouldn't shit on someone just for being christian if they are otherwise adding value. I would just take note of it as perhaps a red flag to look out for in the future but you can't expect to be 100% flawless and on board with every little pet beliefe of yours. If they have mixed race kids, or are homosexuals or something then yeah that's a fundamental issue but being a goth or making 1 pull quote from some satanist jew before it was even common knowledge he was a jew is not especially damning. Just like the leader of PF being short, or living at an expensive house that is actually his dad's is something I don't give a rat's ass about. When I see the emotional appeals to tear someone down based on flimsy evidence I have to question their motives. You seem to think you are above that and should be taken at complete face value. Even while you are grasping at strawers accuse every other poster of samefagging as another one which is laughable when you are the person getting accused so you know it's BS, and have been on boards long enough to see that play out a milion times before.
>>22748 This board supports LEGITIMATE accelerationism. Your Jewish Satanic shilling has nothing to do with this. Maybe try supporting actual efforts of White men instead of reading SEEJ and seething on /fascist/ (and never applying anything you read because you're a fat coward)
>>22755 You should read the book, you seem to know nothing about it if you call it satanist, jewish, and apparently think its some edgelord anarchist cookbook type thing. Its easy to apply the siege mindset.
>>22756 >read the book of a man who never did anything for his people except stand in as a figurehead for some fed honeypots No thanks. I'll stick with the real White heroes.
>>22757 You seem to have a pretty marxist view on things since you seem to attack people for their characters and assumed subversive objectives rather than actually reading what the guy wrote. Again. you're either retarded or just being a nigger without a point so I will end this convo here.
>>22755 You should read the book. Its supposed "Satanism" is nothing more than human lampshades-tier propaganda. >try supporting actual efforts of White men What do you mean by "support?" Do you financially support PF? Do you march with them? Or do you just spend time complimenting them on the internet?
>>22758 >>22760 Siege is not terrible, but most of its points are more eloquently articulated by William Luther Pierce. Mason tends to ramble quite a bit. I am a bit annoyed by those who act like it is the be-all and end-all of writings on the topic. "Drop out of -and then attack- the system" is not a new or unique idea. >>22757 I agree that Mason is a shithead, but you really should judge ideas on their own merit.
This guy had hundreds of national socialists and all he did with it was have some optics cuck marches. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dg5gn/patriot-front-leaked-chats-porn-habits
>>22760 >(you) >Vice Gay >Leaked Chats Reveal Fascist Group Patriot Front Shames Members About Their Porn, Junk Food Habits Based
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>>22797 He's done about as well as you could expect a normal 24 year old guy leading a group to do. Realistically if you want something more paramilitary that is beyond optics marching, you'd expect it to be either completely decentralized and cell-based, or led by older men with military experience. For similar reasons that CEOs are typically older. Experience and wisdom matters and it requires the passage of time. So older men are going to have to step up and create something more effective than Patriot Front in order for something more effective than Patriot Front to exist. Otherwise it's certainly going to have aspects of amateur hour. I'd like to see a pattern of people going beyond critique and really stepping up with proof of their higher level of success as well.
>>22758 >since you seem to attack people for their characters As he should. You should only support White excellence. Do you not know that fundamentally our worldview is a worldview where quality is valued over quantity? Whites cannot claim to be the aristocrats of Nature if the pro-White movement is full of losers, homosexuals, pedos and other forms of human garbage. The character of a man colors and contextualizes every single word that comes out of his mouth. Hypocrites are worthless. Fascism is a worldview of the unity of thought and action. Only the ideals we LIVE have meaning and are actual beliefs we hold. Someone who does not practice what they preach and behaves at odds with their stated philosophy is a subhuman. If you were smart you would only read works written by men of exemplary moral character and great deeds.
>>22822 Okay, would you rather support a nonWhite who has excellency and is not a hypocrite or would you support a White degenerate. I'm asking because when the civil war hits, a lot of lines are gonna be drawn.
>>22828 >Okay, would you rather support a nonWhite who has excellency and is not a hypocrite or would you support a White degenerate. Neither. A non-White who excels in his own right would not need or want our support - he would need only to remove himself from our lands. White degenerates should be re-educated or in extreme circumstances disposed of - moral and spiritual decay should not be tolerated.
>>22828 I would rather read the works of non-Whites who exhibit excellency than degenerate White people who claim to be doing a service to our race, because regardless of whether someone is White, if they are virtuous and noble individuals, there is something to learn potentially.
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>>23061 >yfw Curses! Damn those commies, I would had been able to program more commies into Hitlerian Jihadists MKULTRA style with Clinton and Podesta in the Space Martian CIA Headquarters and stop the proletariat revolution if it wasn't for those meddling commies! What is with them and the CIA glownigger boogeymen?
>>22831 Sure, i would "read" but my support is exclusively for the White race.
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>>23290 More. The closer to the equator you get the higher the rate of feral violence and lack of discipline. I support genocide of other races because they have not shown compassion to other races like White people have. I don't see White compassion as a "christcuck weakness", but reason to allow them to rule and genocide others. No other race in all of human history has shown such godly compassion as the stock of northern Europeans.
>>23291 Blonde features can be tricky, Ashkenazis often have light hair and eyes and they are the most vile, vicious and psychopathic breed of the kyke.
>>22831 >regardless of whether someone is White, if they are virtuous and noble individuals, there is something to learn potentially. If they are indeed virtuous and noble individuals, it is because somewhere in their family tree there is Aryan blood. Hopefully the White that created said mutt died a horrible death.
Patriot Front is an embarrassment to all real identitarian movements. They've accomplished nothing of value, not even any lasting propaganda wins. Their leader lacks the kind of charisma and organizational skill necessary to carry a meaningful victory. He will just be yet another net loss to add onto the long path of failure in the United States to establish a movement of this kind because even when there is a good leader like with Rockwell, they get assassinated too early on to make a real difference.
>>23291 True. We uncomprisingly need ethnoglobe as an endgame goal if we wish to ultimately win. Anyone who opposes it is either a defeatist or a traitor.
>>26998 There's going to be a lot of backstabbing later on once the jews are eradicated. Shouldn't the ethnoglobe ideal be kept a secret? It's even been spread on 4cuck where shitskins frequent. Maybe it is because of this endgame scenario, that shitskins are becoming "based" just to not be knocked of by White men when the war against the jews is over. Survival tactic.
>>27019 Why would we hide our intentions? sure as a nation we may have to treat with other races, and sure to do that we may not want to tell them every time we see them that we're going to kill them, but I see no reason to hide it, they don't hide their intentions from us.
>>27028 >Why would we hide our intentions? >why can't I go out with a big swastika painted on my forehead??? Quit LARPing. Secrecy and cunning are necessary. It's literally War 101 you unineuron.
>>27028 you must be 18 to access this website
>>27048 First, If you wish to hide like a rat feel free, I won't. Second, no shit, but that more directly applies to actions in the theater itself, not so much with geopolitical matters, regardless, the secret is out, or rather it was never a secret to begin with. That is what they all wish to do to us, as such they assume correctly, that is what we wish to do to them, it's the only way to parley with them in the manner described in that post, a pact based on mutual hatred, will last longer and have better results than one based on lies and deceit.
>>27052 ethnoglobe is a larp and almost always functions more as DnC than anything else. niggers who push ethnoglobe from their keyboard probably don't exercise, don't socialize, and have no real-world political clout even amongst their family and friends.
>>27053 It remains the only proper solution to the ills the Aryan race faces today, if you wish to be a coward, and shirk your duty to your future descendants, feel free, you will be killed as a traitor to your race both past and future when the day comes. The only D&C about ethnoglobe coming from anybody is from cowards like you who do not have the steel to do what is necessary, because you think it is impossible, or unrealistic, it is neither, even if we cannot personally kill every single member of other races we can absolutely reduce their numbers to a point where whatever remains will die in a few generations from genetic diseases due to inbreeding, for instance, quit denying the reality of the situation to assuage your misguided guilt.
>>27054 >even if we cannot personally kill every single member of other races we can absolutely reduce their numbers to a point where whatever remains will die in a few generations from genetic diseases due to inbreeding How? If you did it the Turner Diaries way the fallout would kill off many Whites while sparing non-Whites in the southern hemisphere. Any massacre through conventional, nuclear, or chemical means is also going to bring retaliation from Asian/ME countries that would be detrimental to White populations. Biological weapons have the risk of mutating and backfiring. The best option ironically would just be to copy whatever kikes were doing to Whites and flip it.
>>27054 >if you wish to be a coward >shirk your duty to your future descendants >you will be killed as a traitor >cowards like you who do not have the steel to do what is necessary LAAAAAARRRRRPPPPPPP!!!! Look at this shit. More of the same childish idealism that comes from newfags that want to prove their worth, when all they've done is read a bunch of shit online and post in some obscure forums. This faggot thinks he's Top Nazi, now! Fuck off if you think any of us doesn't want an ethnoglobe, but your faggy larping has got to go. This nigger wants to fractionize the global population overnight without any thought as to how or what the consequences might be. And if you aren't with him, well you're a RACE TRAITOR!!! Get the fuck out of here you tremendous retard.
Off-topic mockery is pointless and speaks more of the failure of your own argument than your opponents, if you cannot discuss li
>>27055 >The best option ironically would just be to copy whatever kikes were doing to Whites and flip it. Europeans don't have the kind of racial soul that is capable of kike tactics. Acting like a kike works for kikes because they are kikes.
>>27054 Also, who is gonna kill me? You and what army? You don't have two faggots to rub together you tremendous edgelord. I'll bet this nigger won't even tell his own mother his ethnoglobe fantasies because she would tell him to move out of the house. Based on this nigger's rules, he would have to kill his own family because they disagree with him on eliminating over 75% of the humans on earth. Kill yourself.
>>27056 >Off-topic mockery is pointless and speaks more of the failure of your own argument than your opponents, if you cannot discuss li Sissy bitch has to ban people because HIS arguments are garbage.
I banned you because you're a sperg and throwing nothing but insults.
>>27059 I've already told my mother about my fantasies, because unlike you, I actually stand by what I believe, and you're right I would, and may actually have to, kill my own family over this, such is my dedication to the cause and success of the Aryan Race.
>>27061 >killing your own family is saving the White race delusional
>>27060 >I banned you because you're a sperg and throwing nothing but insults. >Wants to kill his own family while calling others sperg.
>>27058 By kike tactics I mean like funding population control and basically encouraging the capitalist death spiral that's spreading in Asia. Many ZOG collaborator Whites already are actively encouraging this stuff.
>>27061 Fantasies don't often make for a good plan anon. You might end up killing your family and still leave billions of shitskins alive
>>27053 >ethnoglobe is a larp yeah but its a good larp an eventual goal >>27055 >The best option ironically would just be to copy whatever kikes were doing to Whites and flip it. build cities that crush birthrates and encourage non-Whites to live there, the best part is, that is already being done by jews truely they are our greatest allies
>>27065 I meant to quote like so, "fantasies" meaning they are not actually fantasies and he's just veing a facetious nigger. I have put a good deal of thought in to the so called "fantasies" they are quite workable.
>>27066 Perhaps the best strategy is to go amish mode while the kikes whittle away all the shitskins and shitlibs from the earth with their parasitism. They're better at it than we are.
>>27067 >they are quite workable The only workable method that won't just get Whites killed is probably just this >>27068
>>27069 There is no method in which we save most of the White race, going Amish, means withdrawing from the system and doing nothing to hasten or affect it's demise, allowing it to proceed as it would while hoping it won't bite, and eventually eat entirely, the very people it wants to destroy, that is naive in the extreme. If you really think the only workable goal is to just try to weather shit, you think the White and by extension Aryan race is doomed to extinction, and merely want to delay that as long as possible by living out as far as possible thinking they won't eventually chase you down.
>>27073 The point in that particular example is more about a practical method to eliminate the other races permanently than actually saving the White race. Kikes are better at destroying nations than we are.
>>27078 No they are better at subverting them from within, we are better at outright destruction, because we are the unmitigated masters at war when at our best.
>>27079 Right but the non-White world has nukes, chemical weapons, bioweapons, etc. Trying to destroy them outright may destroy the White race. That's assuming that we stay united, if not then we'd destroy each other first for supremacy.
>>27080 Anon, be like Savitri Devi in this matter, she said it best "If my comrades are not destined to rule this world, then away with it! A shower of atom bombs upon it, and in place of it's meaningless chatter about 'love' and 'peace', the voice of the howling wind over it's ruins." Whatever may happen however we must achieve victory we cannot, and shall not let our fears of non-existence override what must be done, if we end up killing ourselves entirely to save the earth and let it reorder itself, that is what will happen, I don't think we have to go that far, but it is not off the table.
>>27087 > "If my comrades are not destined to rule this world, then away with it! A shower of atom bombs upon it, and in place of its meaningless chatter about 'love' and 'peace', the voice of the howling wind over its ruins." Call me pedantic if you wish but I won't allow typos soiling the words of the great Savitri Devi.
>>27093 What typo?

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