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QTDDTOT - Questions That Don't Deserve Their own Threads Blackshirt 12/12/2021 (Sun) 21:06:27 ID:21f148 No. 19638
If you have a one-liner question that won't generate much discussion and isn't related to moderation or requests, or want to post something of interest to /fascist/s but doesn't deserve a thread, post it in this thread. Previous thread: >>8615 https://archive.fo/QgObN
>>19404 Not really sure how to deal with this, should I convince my father to divorce her? Also some friends from high school went woke and joined Antifa, they at least will be easier to part with. I also have some other, less closely related relatives with similar views, but they don't seem to be playing as much of an active role.
>>19598 This
>>19598 >Seeing the domination of others as fundamentally evil is a feminine, maladaptive trait. It's not that it's evil, it's that domination should be approached prudently.
>>19622 >Haven't seen it, but I've read positive things about it from WN's. Kek shut up kike, I haven't seen a single WN praise that soulless garbage side for the Xbox CGI. The main character who's supposed to be the absolute perfection of a long work of eugenics applied to long Aryan lines as part of some long term political game is played by a skinny tired looking kike. Niggers have been shoved everywhere, including as space scientists, a presence which would only be believable if someone needed an expandable bunch of slaves to pick up extraterrestrial cotton or die in the sand while looking for spice. The bad guys for the most part are full White so that's another case of teh ebil oppressive Whitey vs the ideal ZOG ark of all victimized (sub)races. Villeneuve keeps cock teasing the audience with the sequel that will be deepurr and moar spirituol but we know it's bullshit, his movies have been for the most part nothing more than pretty still shots.
Can anyone get me the image of the different types of eyes? The one with the White of the eyes on top meaning the guy is ready to fuck shit up.
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>>19919 Thank you
Is being medically discharged from ZOG make you a guaranteed candidate for being a genetic dud?
>>20253 That would completely depend on the specific reason for the discharge. So, not necessarily.
What's the consensus on Robert Sepehr? I like his content but the fact he isn't censored more is making me wary at this point. Some of his content certainly aligns with my worldview and I imagine the /fascist/ worldview too but he also makes videos about inner earth and other conspiracies I haven't paid much attention to.
>>20284 Progressive hearing loss or heart arrhythmia.
>>20391 > look for pic where he openly declared his grandfather was in the SS and confirmed Maria Orsic's existence > open twatter for the tweet > account suspended You were saying he isn't being censored? He has a Patreon and publisher as income and his jewtube vids are being removed the whole time. He had to change how he presented his videos to avoid the (((copyright claims))) jewtube used to censor his videos, just look at how he experimented with gameplay videos from assassin's creed and narrated over it. Now he films himself walking autisticly and peacefully feeding ducks. It's fucking glorious, I love him for it. I agree it might be a red flag when someone isn't being openly censored and dragged through the mud by media, but don't shove that black pill too far down your throat or nothing will ever get done by anyone. He is just smart about it, watch his videos and you will find his hints to think for yourself. He keeps himself from being cancelled by knowing what to not say online and make himself into some symbol of whatever political movement, he stays out of it and spreads his understanding of history. He also diversifies his topics, like Eipstein temple symbolism gnosticism, Islamic Sufi cult, Catholisism, RH bloodtypes, Human evolution, Noah's story, ... He's not trying to make people into NatSoc's, he just produces interesting interpretations of history without cucking himself by (((consensus))). He rejects for example the out of Africa theory because it has no scientific base and has been debunked on many levels. He just happened to stumble on truths that only NatSoc's or very vocal fringe right-wing movements are willing to talk about. he does have (in our sense) redpilled based opinions, but doesn't sperg it around and finds his inspiration in it. He is subtle enough to make the viewer/reader think for himself. In one video he said 'People seem to have made up their minds about the events of WWII so I don't think it's useful to add anything to it'. He doesn't openly call out the jews like a controlled-op activist with specific goals in mind. His understanding of how the media and the academic world work made him realize it is corrupt and he must be careful about it.
>>20402 I didn't know he was recently suspended from twitter, probably for making anti-semitic comments kek I'm just a bit wary since most online personalities I follow have been forced to move to alt-tech like telegram and odysee. I'll try find an email and contact him to set up accounts on these platforms because he is quite large on YouTube and his twitter is obviously gone. You're right in saying he's smart about what he says, at least in his YouTube videos but it's not like our enemy needs to play by their own rules. The only reason I searched out some like-minded opinions on him is because I recently watched some of his videos about free energy and Tesla. I have absolutely no background in these fields but I found the topics extremely interesting. I think I'll read some of his books to get a better understanding and more coherent version of his worldview. Thanks for the reply anyway friend, enjoy the holidays
>>20402 >>20409 Also I found this picture on his Instagram, he looks like a poster boy for the SS or Hitler youth.
>>20409 He's on Gab, with his other links: https://gab.com/Robert_Sepehr https://tv.gab.com/channel/robert_sepehr >>20402 >He rejects for example the out of Africa theory Any links to vids discussing this?
>>20391 the system just hasnt noticed the videos or he has carefully balanced on what he can and can not say to be banned there are several nationalists who are still on YT
>>19638 Why do you all have to be massively deluded? It's degrading coming here because i feel shunned by the world, with the hopes to amend a sense of betrayal by a life of violence and instability, trying to conjure up a vision of a nation that is not corrupted, a way of feeling like my existence is not worthless and that i belong to a place that doesn't exist. All of that just to listen to the psychotic ramblings of people with little interest for any rational, technical, and academic ideological foundation. If you all stopped listing superstition and mysticism as a feasible political ideology the world would be justly terrified of the strength of fascism again, not just the anti war slogan of queer teenagers, but a respected political road. As long as idiotic people choose to degrade this ideology we are all condemned to live secluded, and when we envision a way to uplift our race we will rot never having reached our full potential. It's pathetic that i still hope for signs that there's something out there, my country will die, because I'm not willing to fight history itself just so a bunch of people that are not even my kind get to live a life that i never had. Fuck all of you.
>>20500 He does have a point. But if you create without first learning at least a little, you end up producing a product fit only for walmart.
>>20492 The overall ideological foundation has already been set so people on here debate details, discuss the religious aspects and seek truth. If you're a hylic most of these threads are meaningless to you. Why don't you just avoid the threads with religion and mysticism and stick to whatever is left and if you're still unhappy then simply stop reading the threads and instead read fascist authors. If you don't understand why spirituality/religion/mysticism or whatever it may be is so important I encourage you to read more of the threads you want to avoid but you don't seem open to learning and you appear to be a hylic
>>20500 Just winging it and trying to learn through trial and error won't save anything. We don't have the ability to make such costly mistakes that would have us lose favour if we did get in to power or even have natural public support making mistakes and appearing just as incompetent as the politicians they've known for years isn't going to help. We have our ideology, it's just a matter of ironing out details.
>>20504 >you end up producing a product fit only for walmart. ... and which after careful consideration of my own post and the current state of the US - might just work.
>>20508 The religious/mysticism thought must be coalesced into institutions that are ready to serve our people. So not individual cults who simply elevate their local demagogue, but something like a broad aryan shintoism, supported by organizations that can be plug and play adopted by upstart national socialist governments and serve as a pillar for racial unity. If the gap from theory to practice is never bridged, its usefuless will be limited.
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>>20492 You feel "degraded" because your pathetic weakling of a being wants to appeal to the modern standards of the System and soulless nigger cattle which never works well. this "rational, technical, and academic ideological foundation" is what we call a worldview. The worldview what you call "rational, technical, and academic ideological foundation" already existed prior NS/fascism. Guess who discovered the worldview, faggot? Do you think Hitler and HIMMLER who banned atheist faggotry in the SS were fedoras with no use for ""superstition"" and 'mysticism'? Fascism is not a mere ideology as YOU think it is. we don't argue if 2+2 is 5 or 3.
What are other anon's thoughts on American Futurist? Some of their contributors have been influential in the historic US national socialist movement. They seem to be one of the few outlets willing to say outright who they are. Their latest article about Patriot Front expressed some frustrations I've held myself.
>>20535 He seems to have his head on his shoulders, and he is absolutely right on Larptriot Front. Aside from a bit too much optimism on pulling in rural Whites, he's doing shit the right way.
>>20535 Any other good sites like this? Also, attaching an interesting vid I found on the American Futurist site (even if some of what the speaker said sounds dubious to me).
>>20539 Sorry for the samefag, but I realized the actual URL had not been posted: https://americanfuturist.net/ And uploading a downsized version of a new James Mason video I found on their site.
>>20535 American Futurist is one of the greatest NS sites (there arent many) today
>>20540 >still posting this pedophilic federal informant who doesn't practice what he preached ever in his life
>>20575 Sorry I'm not familiar with the backstory here. Can you provide the decisive proofs?
>>20391 >It was only a matter of time before hard evidence that Robert Sepehr was discovered to be Jewish. His Jewish-Iranian father, Ben-Hur even made and produced a handful of holocaust films..... >>Video timestamp of Robert Sepehr at his fathers premiere of the holocaust film The Desperate + his role in said film. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGXqSackO4k&t=112s >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NU0fWz0JsY&t=1801s >>Atlantean Gardens listed as a Jewish organization >https://eintaxid.com/company/465098741-atlantean-gardens/ >>If you do a web search for Ben Hur Robert Sepehr you'll find that both a Ben Hur (Shokuhisepehr) Sephr and a 46 year old Robert Sepehr live at the same California address... >https://www.Whitepages.com/name/Robert-Sepehr/Encino-CA >https://www.searchpeoplefree.com/find/benhur-hur-shokuhisepehr >https://clustrmaps.com/person/Sepehr >https://clustrmaps.com/person/Sepehr-966dlv <post not mine, taken from /pol/
>>20492 >>20500 >>20504 >>20506 >>20508 >>20509 What a wonderful combination of pretyped and bot posts. Literally, nothing displayed in these posts has a meaning or even answers any previously asked question.
>>20623 >What a wonderful combination of pretyped and bot posts. Says the same guy that just >>20622 copy pasted a post that has been spammed four times in the last day
>>20622 well that's disappointing to say the least. In many of his videos he claims the real Israelites are Aryans, wonder what's up with that
>>20575 why would you just go on the internet and lie
>>20391 >>20622 >>20637 I have never bothered with him as I find much of the content too far out there. So for the past day I have gone through a bunch of his library. The fact that he seems to subscribe to almost every single fringe idea at the same time I find troubling. If you are an 'expert' say like Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and want to lay out 911 was an inside job. And spend hours and days and years investing your self in that message, I find that to be credible. On the other hand if you make a 15min video on 911, then another on ESP, then another Vril and Nazi bases on the moon, and one on Neolithic structures created by a race of giants, then another vid for space aliens with 'advance technology' that managed to leave zero evidence behind, etc, etc. Then I find your message much harder to swallow. While I can say many of the examples could plausibly have some truth. The fact that many can just be exaggerations and/or also have more rational explanations can not be just waved away. >wonder what's up with that Few possibilities are that he is taking truths and sprinkling in disinfo to muddy the waters. Or another is he is mostly right and jewish lies run deeper than most imagine. While raised as a Christian (in name only for the most part and never considered myself a 'believer') I never bothered getting invested in the whole lost tribes theory. But at the same time, I can say it is at least 'possible' there is some validity to it. Blonde haired blued-eyed peoples have been documented from China to Egypt, so it is certainly possible they had a substantial presence in the Levant at one point in time. The people that currently reside in the middle east need not be the only people that have ever been there. Most "ancient" tiled and painted depictions of kikes and shitskins are from 300-800AD so its completely possible older images of Aryans in the area were destroyed. Especially when you consider that for the first 5 centuries it was common to go around destroying old texts and statues, followed by the Dark Ages, it is quite conceivable that much of history was rewritten. The same way niggers try to claim 'we wuz kangs' in Egypt, the modern kikes may have done something similar a thousand years ago. Of course he also could just be a nutjob with no motive, or just as likely, a grifter going with whatever he thinks he can sell.
>>20640 >If you are an 'expert' say like Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and want to lay out 911 was an inside job. And spend hours and days and years investing your self in that message, I find that to be credible. It doesn't take 10 minutes to 'figure it out' once you've rid your mind of jew indoctrination and lies. It's obvious. Put another way: If you study this topic for more than 10 minutes, and don't come to this conclusion - well, you're still asleep.
>>20640 >Few possibilities are that he is taking truths and sprinkling in disinfo to muddy the waters. Which... is the hallmark of a good and faithful jew.
>>20641 >It doesn't take 10 minutes to 'figure it out' In no way was I suggesting it was more or less credible, just that AE911 was a good example of how to put forth a fringe idea in a believable manner. >>20642 >hallmark of a good and faithful jew. Agreed
>>20391 Inner earth likely has a degree of truth to it. Too much is unexplored. Honeycomb earth is the final redpill, though. What other theories does he cover? >>20596 Probably this: <In 1988 and 1991, police raided Mason's home in Ohio and seized pornographic photos of a 15-year-old girl. In 1992, he pled guilty to two counts of "illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material",[3] for which he was sentenced to a $500 fine and a suspended sentence.[7] In May 1994, Mason was arrested and charged with two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Mason threatened his ex-girlfriend, who was then 16 years old, and a Latino man who she had been dating, with a firearm. Mason struck a plea bargain and was convicted of weapons charges,[7] for which he was sentenced to three years of incarceration before being released in August 1999 Though let's be real, as much as I don't like Mason, a picture of a 15-year old girl isn't exactly pedophilic to anyone except for the biggest pussywhipped beta.
>>20627 >wah wah Someone doesn't enjoy another (((gatekeeper))) being exposed.
>>20660 >Inner earth likely has a degree of truth to it Like none you mean. At best, vast networks of underground galleries and caves in some parts, like swisscheese and that's all.
>>20669 >vast networks of underground galleries and caves in some parts, like swisscheese and that's all. Yeah, like I said, honeycomb earth.
>>20660 So he had a 15 year old girlfriend? That's young but kind of a stretch to call dating a girl who's gone through puberty a pedo.
>>20660 >>20679 Having a fifteen year old girlfriend is based. I'm tired of having to choose used hags due to social pressure.
>>20660 This post alone proves me right. It's a lost cause.
>>20660 Still… I don’t like that at all
>>20681 Kek… don’t go to jail m8
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What are some of the biggest funnels for power? Sounds dumb but I only realized recently after looking into them to what extent prestigious MBA programs (Harvard, Wharton, etc) are the networking centers for future corporate leaders. And Ivy League schools + Investment Banks. Maybe West Point is another one. Unsurprisingly their alum are mostly very tall + attractive + from wealthy families. There is also a lot of international elite from wealthy families who apply. I'm guessing this is where a lot of the pajeet tech CEOs are coming from. Also, are many of our guys in that world? If not, what sphere do you think our future elite will come from? And where did the elite in National Socialist Germany or fascist Italy come from?
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>>20681 The color of the cunnypill is red. White woman start to lose their breeding viability at age 19. Good on you. >>20710 Everyone knows that if ZOGbots come knocking, the rounds should start popping. Invest in self-defense firearms.
>>20749 The best way to have stable families is for both parents, including the mother, to have maturity and responsibility. You have to go through the difficulties of adulthood before you can be a good guide on the path to adulthood. Pedos are disgusting and kiked.
>>20749 wanting to have sex with undeveloped children is not the Aryan way. 15 in some cases is old enough but in other cases it isn't. The way marriage worked for our ancestors also included a passing of protective duties, this means if they were married/betrothed when the girl is at say 9 or 10 this doesn't mean the husband is having sex with her from this age. His role was also a protective one and he would teach her and wait until he decided she was at an appropriate age for child bearing. Of course I'm not naive enough to think that no man ever exploited this and had sexual relations with a girl before it was appropriate. These men are still not men of virtue much like any of the "cunnyposters" who just focuses on having sex with young girls and not the bigger picture.
>>20731 >Also, are many of our guys in that world? Hard to tell. Most of them are pretty busy with studying and their careers, so they won't have time to radicalize. The majority of them will probably stay trapped in one of the many layers of conservatism. Any WN who has a chance to go to these places should do it imo. Don't let yourself be dragged down by all the power-allergic retards.
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>>20749 >Everyone knows that if ZOGbots come knocking, the rounds should start popping. Based
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>>20750 >women >having maturity and responsibility Are you fucking serious? This is the Kali Yuga. Women are and will always be children until their death. Nature has determined that is the most successful role. You as their husband become the new father that they never had. And if all women are children then you might as well get some breedable and fertile teen slash to bury your seed in.
>>20784 I hope you want a young wife and understand all the responsibilities that entails, and aren't just masturbating to some fantasy that the society of 100 years ago was one great big pedophile orgy that you think you're owed too.
>>20787 I'm already in a relationship with someone older than me. That's why I see the futility in caring about age, because no matter how old, modern women will have the same maturity of a middle schooler.
>>20791 Well, no arguments there. I love my older womenfolk, but they sure can make a bad situation worse with their hysterics.
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After doing some research on Nazi Germany my main question is how much should I look into the conspiracy theories about how the house of Rothschild run everything in the world. And the next question I have is why didn't Hitler kill the entire Rothschild family.
>>20910 Look as deeply as you wish into the Rothschild conspiracy. as for why Hitler didn't kill them all, they were out of his reach for most of the war, and there are better things to spend resources on than killing a single family even one as powerful as the Rothschilds. Even today many retards question why nobody has targeted the big jews, such as the Rothschilds, Les Wexner and his family, George Soros, etc.. Them doing so just belies how absolutely ignorant they are of just how much time, money, resources, men, planning etc. it would take to get even one Rothschild. Even given all that then a small change in their plan for the day you plan to strike can and will fuck the whole thing. As it cannot be done alone, it would require access to blueprints or floorplans to every property they own, requires those documents to be perfectly accurate. On top of that, it's essentially a suicide mission, unless you get all of them, every single living member, even babies, of any given powerful jewish clan, you will be tracked down, they will kill each and every person involved just to make sure everyone know not to attempt such a thing again.
On the topic of womenfolk: how would you go about finding someone good? I dont really think, going out and finding the first White woman and "converting" her is a good option. If we really want to live the worldview we profess here, starting a family, having a family and teaching them the ways of it is one of the most important things we must do.
>>21031 It would be meaningless on it's own, but it would be highly effective in some scenarios (Minecraft maps of course) where a full-spectrum attack is made on their levers of power. NS Germany has threatened their system of usury that most of their illusive power was based on (money is a meme basically) by providing a viable alternative, exposed their puppets and began removing their influence (which was the real reason for WW2), if things went differently we would likely see teams of elite SS commandos hunting down Talmudic robber barons anywhere in the world. And even if some of them tried, we would hardly get to know about it since they have enough resources to cover up a lot of things. I doubt they would make an example out of anyone since they would prefer not to draw any attention to themselves. Not that they wouldn't kill everyone involved, they just wouldn't broadcast it on CNN. I find it strange that there are barely any records of competing families trying to dethrone them, even if it was just an internal strife among the world jewry. They might appear untouchable today (still, not invincible), but there were periods when their monopoly was not as established. Reading about their true history would be very interesting. They might be a bunch of useless old people and basic bitch midwits having power solely thanks to being born on the top of the money bag today, but their ancestors clearly knew very well what they were doing, as abhorrent as it may be to us.
What do you think is best for the fight. Be a hacker or prepare with a gun. Provided that we want to devote ourselves to one thing
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>>21054 Good question. I imagine good hackers will be rarer than door-kickers, and also essential, so I would pick that. Though you could still take a few carbine classes at a local gun training school for only a few thousand dollars over the course of a year or two and get 80% of the benefit of going full autismo about guns. Practically speaking all you need is CCW (G19, $500) red-dot rifle (AR-15, $500 + $200 red dot + $25 sling). If you wanted to snipe only then instead of an AR you'd want a scoped bolt-action ($500 + $1-2k scope) with an optional suppressor ($1k). All of the theoretical training material to supplement the classes can be obtained for free online with videos from the likes of Magpul and others. Most of the money spent on guns is people buying all sorts of different weapons platforms to try them all out and ending up with a suboptimal collection that is all over the place. Can't go wrong with an AR-15 + G19 and you avoid the double purchases and scattering over a bunch of calibers. Becoming a hacker will take a lot more time, but also be much cheaper. There are clear certification paths to benchmark your skills, and lots of different online capture the flag training progressions. And of course a great deal of high quality, freely available literature. Having these skills also make you highly employeeable in the security industry, or just doing IT/devops/software engineering. It's worth noting that OSINT and social engineering skills could also dovetail in usefulness with targeted minecraft games.
>>20910 The kikes run most of the western rule through decentralization. That's how they can get away with so much is that they aren't really one force, but a bunch of different little groups made up of factions fighting under the same goal, and that goal is "tikkum olam" or reshaping the world, under their own vision. Even kosher goyim are fighting for this, under Christianity and Islam.
>>21048 I don't think it's necessary to indoctrinate a woman with the finer points of national socialism and racial separatism. Simply find a White woman of decent racial pedigree, provide for her and bear children. Contrary to what most of the internet would have you believe most women (and White women especially) are xenophobic and have a high degree of in-group preference. Obviously this isn't what is promoted but the statistics bear themselves out when you actual examine them. Through the lifestyle you provide and the culture you uphold the woman you have children with will experience the benefits of the ideology that you have in your head. Your children will benefit from it as well. There isn't any need to be explicit and have a discussion about it--women are not as prone to reasoning out and contemplating the philosophy of national socialism, but through experience they will adopt it if it suites them. It's important to keep in mind that ultimately women are pragmatists. This is why giving them free reign over a society ultimately dooms it.
>>20910 The Rothschilds aren't some kind of magical beings. They are just Jews like any other, who follow their Jewish instincts. Most people who focus on them are blind to the JQ the begin with. There are plenty of Jewish families more powerful than them.
>>21100 Not really. All of their power really goes back to the central banking scam, where they can make themselves vastly richer than everyone else while making everyone else a debt slave. When you crush everyone else into relative poverty it's also easier to bribe them into doing what you want. Their secondary power lies in their extreme ethno-centrism, where tho jews who have never met have this hive-mind mentality of furthering all other jews, subverting their host nation and defending other jews and Israel while squawking about muh holocaust and anti-semitism.
What are good podcasts to listen to?
Happy New Years, anons.
Hey folks.How to deal with depression ?Maybe there is some philosophy that can help. I don't want to take pills
>>21123 Happy New Years, brother o/ >>21126 Take vitamin d. Eat healthy, and SLEEP. If you already sleep all day, go to bed AT A SANE HOUR. Practice self care, as in take time to yourself to nurture yourself. Practice good hygiene. Reduce self-criticism. If you're depressed because you're poor, work on your situation and practice gratitude for what you do have. You will notice your situation begin to change. Most importantly of all, imagine yourself being happy. Imagine yourself doing things you'd like to do. If you don't want to do anything, do the rest of the above and just go through the motions until you find something you want to do (it will come eventually without fail). Now imagine yourself doing that thing, happy. Imagination is the key to happiness. You are likely spending a lot of time introspecting on your feelings and spending time on the internet looking at things that make you unhappy (there is a lot of demoralization propaganda aimed at our circles). Turn away from things that make you unhappy and refocus on things that make you happy for a while. It is okay to take a break from the battle to recharge. Our fight in this era is mental and spiritual more than physical. It is honorable to rejuvenate yourself. I will say it one more time. Imagination is the key to happiness. You must take some time to flex your imagination. Drive your favorite car in your mind. Fly around. Sail a ship. Whatever floats your boat. Do this daily and the above self-care steps and you will be surprised.
>>21126 If taking care of yourself is difficult because you're really in the depths of despair, start with small easy tasks. Practice them one at a time until they become habits, and build from there. You did well to stay away from the meds. They do not help, even in the short term. Avoid drinking and smoking as well. Oh and if you're a nigger, kike, spic, chink, gook, towelhead, or any assorted nonWhite... kys yourself.
>>21128 Unfortunately, the problem is that I have 3 things that I would like to do, but to study each of them you have to spend a lot of time and therefore you have to choose one thing. And I am stuck in an endless circle of this choice. For example, I want to go shoot and I immediately dream of becoming a great shooter, but then I think why would I do this in my country, it’s possible that it’s bad with a shooting range and I don’t want to be an infantryman in the ZOG and drop. Then I switch to the next hobbie, for example, to become a hacker (it doesn't matter if it works out or not) and maybe look for compromising evidence on politicians, it doesn't matter just fantasies. And so I read that probably nothing will come of it, because "they" are stronger and I throw it. Then I think, well, maybe going to shoot is not such a bad idea and again everything in a circle . P.S I have money and work
>>21132 Interesting. Indecision is something I myself have dealt with for many years. I think in the end we must choose something or receive nothing. Perhaps go for shooting, no need to become an infantryman. If you practice it for a couple years, you can decide to continue or change to hacking (or whatever your desire is in the future).
>>21131 >Oh and if you're a nigger, kike, spic, chink, gook, towelhead, or any assorted nonWhite... kys yourself I think the seasoned visitors of nonWhite origin are used to hostility of White men by this point.
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>>21132 It doesn't have to be all or nothing. The most important thing is to make steady progress over time. I have hobbies that have taken me 10 years to become any decent at, where I picked them up and put them on the shelf again over the years. Just start getting some small wins. Go to the range and practice shooting. Get an entry level security cert. Over time the small wins will add up. And even if you don't become a master at one thing, having some experience in it can be pretty useful in other contexts where you can relate the experience across disciplines in unexpected ways.
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2021/12/common-tasks-testing-ctt-the-armys-everybody-requirement/ https://www.americanpartisan.org/2022/01/common-infantry-tasks-testing-the-basic-requirements-applied-to-partisans-and-survivalists/ Some tasks/guidelines for anons to use to build up their skillsets. Some things you may not have the equipment for, or have the buddies you need, but, it gives you an idea for things to improve upon. Granted, it's from a boomer PoV, but take from it what you will; he's a vet, like many others you can gain information from. You don't have to do it exactly as he suggests; make it work for yourself and whatever buddies you may or may not have. You don't have to join a military to gain such knowledge. There are also courses ran by former military members teaching field skills, shooting (and precision/long-distance shooting), squad/tactical skills, outdoorsmanship, and more. PDF mentioned in the articles attached. Improving yourself and seeing tangible gains is a great way to get yourself out of a rut, using small, easier to reach goals that build upon each other. Don't just recruit and train and wait, though. Start making an effort to be ready when the time feels right. There may not be a mass movement any time soon. There may not be another Hitler. There may not be people you can depend on or a sympathetic populace. The odds are against us. So, be the leader people need and lead through your deeds. Pave the way for whomever comes next. Have the vision to see how you can affect the world and work locally, sending ripples that get stronger as more step up to do what's necessary as well as changing your community and surrounding ones. Eventually those ripples can merge and form a massive tsunami to wash away all the filth and parasites infecting our nations.
>>21101 I think you've made some really valid points here, points that I've seen my self in my day to day life. When a woman is provided for and is content with her situation it is not necessary "open her mind" as some have led me to believe. She will follow as it is most convenient for her. I reflect on what you say in what is possibly the final days of my relationship. I tried many times to "open her mind" and her reaction was usually one of indifference or disdain at my increasingly positive views on National Socialism. I look back and I think if four years of relationship are worth saving or if it would be better to start anew as I think that my current girlfriend already has a very distorted image of me because of what I mentioned above and of how things have been in the past for us. >>21126 I've been there and really the best way to fix it is to take a hard look at yourself and see what you dont like and make an effort to change it. It can be exceedingly hard but it is the best way and, at least for me, most rewarding. Of course do not forget what the others have mentioned, eating healthy, sleeping AT NORMAL TIMES and taking care of yourself and your thoughts. Ultimately alot of people are depressed because they want a life that they see on the media and when they cant even come close to it they crumble. Find happiness and contentment in what you have and always look one step ahead, not at the end of the path as you walk through life.
>>21054 >hacker You will spend literal days, and weeks, in the basement lacking sunlight engaged in "enumeration" because that will become your job. You will pour over literal mountains of data trying to catch discrepancies that you can exploit and get in, or you'll be hanging out on skid forums trading crypto for what is hopefully something that won't be a virus. It is one of the most snitch laden communities on Earth and you will regret the entire experience as a waste of time. You won't be Neo or the cute anime girl, you will be one of the soys at Defcon but racist so you'll hate everyone you come in contact with. That all said. Spend some time learning the basic skills, steal wifi credentials, learn some basic routing so you can build your own vpn for when the cianiggers or wef eventually take down Tor. If you were meant for it, you would have a genuine passion for it because that is truly what that takes. It's 90% art 10% skill because that is the margin of how that works. Depending on whether the soys between reddit and hacker news are right, Quantum Computing may or may not change this arrangement. So everything you learn now may go out the window. Which it may because if they can bits that aren't 0 or 1, and exist as -1 or 0.23 etc, then computing is going to be completely overhauled. And you aren't allowed to have one of those. The most important hacker skills, are the ones that let you bypass ZOG and niggercattle impositions. If someone else has more control over your computer than you *coughs* >gun Basic marksmanship, develop some basic survival skills, the best skill for the fight is self-sufficiency, and that is up to you to find out where you live and in regards to what you have to deal with. For example. >power goes out How done are you? Lets say power is out for two weeks, we'll say it's summer, do you have a stock of dried foods? Are all of your appliances electric? Can you cook with wood; without burning everything down? I really hope you're young or still in school. Because if you are, you are in the best position, better than any socially isolated retard who has been here for several years. Make friends, keep them close, and network with and through them. Be someone who will kill for them, and they for you. Really examine them close, but make that because it is the difference between someone who is successful and someone who is not. >>21058 >cheaper Hackers blow literal hundreds sometimes thousands in random equipment and material because that is what is needed to accomplish that one job. >this adapter doesn't have monitor mode available >hunt down this obscure wifi card module or use this obnoxiously sized usb one that would get immediate attention if you used it in public The hiring isn't as good as it seems, and there is a reason the scene is filled with trannies. If anon does anything with computers it should only be to increase his own security or enjoyment with them. Doing it to become le rich hax0rman is a quick way to blowing loads of money and hating yourself.
>>21162 >Can you cook with wood; without burning everything down? May be u have guide?how survive? how go to forest etc
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How do I fuck with her? I tried to report but nothing is happening, she's still getting her welfare checks.
>>21164 Sign her up for immediate red flag list materials. Put out her contact details in places that are used for soliciting prostitution, etc.
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>>21162 Better to just get a software engineer job. Pays way better than security, and less stressful. And you can still learn and apply security skills adjacent to the main job responsibilities. But I don't see how spending some money on computers and wifi cards matters much when you are pulling down 150k per year anyways...
>>21162 >enjoyment with them What's the usual take on /fascist/ regarding vidya PC rigs?
>>21176 Games are a waste of time. Do something productive with your pc if you're going to spend a lot of money on it.
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>>21163 >need a guide to walk in the woods Is this bait?
Who's got a link to a WWII era German physical training manual? I know there's at least one out there. I'd be pleasantly surprised if someone has one with training for women.
>>21335 Sportsvorschrift Fur Das Heer German Army sports regulations manual, 1938 Translation by Anonymous(s)
>>21189 It really is a drug cult. It stunts them, and retards them. Even if they arent the type thats into academic education, they could have been into articles and internet, porn and documentaries. Its the informational multitool that is the facility to enhance their lives thenceforward. Nope, vidya gaems.
Does anyone has the quote from that US Jew who warned his fellow tribesmen not to rush the immigration agenda? He was fearful that they had been reckless about it and might lose it all.
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>>19638 What is Fascism? Simple question, but hard to answer for so many people.
>>21156 The girl is the dog. She sneers because NS isn't translating into shekels and social status, so that's shit to her. Women and politics, few like one in a million get it. They're better at day to day concerns, small scale management of cash, spending. Eventually she'll manage being the mother she hoped she could become because nearly all women can't help but want kids. She's like she will never fit in, never really agree. If she doesn't now, it won't get better later. But if she can stay neutral and be useful and kind when not minding politics, perhaps you will pull this off too until the mega shit hits the fan (aka limp DOTR) and she'll depend on you ever more.
This is the most beautiful video on National Socialism I've ever seen. https://www.bitchute.com/video/tkbrpGQqHwvh/
>>21359 Its good advice! Though I fear my Eastern European girl is so brainwashed its beyond help. Even if I live NS in "secret" and have her follow me down the path of a good and pure life it will never be good enough for her because of "muh burned villages". Sorry for kikepedia but context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatyn_massacre Lets not forget that still, almost 100 years after WW2 they still have a massive celebration for the "Great Patriotic War" in most of Eastern Europe. Not to mention the fact they have monuments and symbolisms of marxism everywhere. Not to mention her father is ex-Military(trained soviet officer), still praises Stalin and even took me to a big museum named after him...
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>>21367 >Bitchute
>>21389 Yes, Slavs are just as bad there, totally mind-cucked. Their only saving grace was to have been spared direction exposure to capitalism and having clung to conservative life. Now that is also gone, resistance was but symbolic. The worst part is that if you live in the West, then she will have a lot of legal power against you over the control of children. If your instincts tell you it's unsafe, perhaps you should really look elsewhere and smack her face with heavy truths, that she's ignorant and her people nothing more than useful idiots, just another shade of slaves. Just be brutal. Show her funny videos of niggers doing niggery things. Tell her Whites don't do this. Talk about the grooming gangs in England. About the two blondes who got beheaded after they went to Morocco because they loved exotic males and wanted to help the world. Ask her who do she thinks brought these apes and cultural rapists in. Tell her one day turks, afghanis, niggers, beaners, mudslimes will just rape her friends, mothers, daughters, etc. She'll be raped too. Perhaps killed also. Tell her that's what the red army did in Germany. Put her on a leash mentally, you really need to find a way to control her. Another historical clue; as the Germans advanced east, they bothered rebuilding and repairing all that was had destroyed. There are so many good things Germany did for its people and which spread to other nations but remain uncredited. Does she know Fauci? Tell her about what he funds, the torture on dogs. Tell her Germans had strong laws against mistreatment and torture on animals, that they punished capitalists and communists.
>>21337 Danke!
>>21429 >Yes, Slavs are just as bad there, totally mind-cucked. Their only saving grace was to have been spared direction exposure to capitalism and having clung to conservative life. Now that is also gone, resistance was but symbolic. There are some good slavs who are redpilled and reject their stupid brothers blind sense of nationalism and delusional nostalgia for Jewish empires, but Slavic nationalists are (at-least the ones who reject being White) are some of the biggest retards to exist. Especially the pan-Slavic tards who unironically think that Slav is a term for multi-culturalism or something and still butthurt about Germans saving and avenging their kin from poles.
>>20622 >It was only a matter of time before hard evidence that Robert Sepehr was discovered to be Jewish. His Jewish-Iranian father, Ben-Hur Old news and I already guessed he was either genetically or at-least spiritually Jewish along with possibily being either 'Iranic' or a fanatic for them as he believes the Aryans came from the Middle East thus were Israelites (the first Jews) and rnade several references to how esoteric the (((kabbalah))) is and was. There also a case where I think he tried to claim that Western civilization owes a-lot to Iran and Jews or whatever, a-lot of his videos are just Masonic and Jewish nonsense, except for his UFO videos which are believable and convinced me that Hitler and Co really did escape from the wrath of the allies and traveled far south. There also the fact that he supports mainstream academia, but only to a degree that supports his beliefs. Quite interesting that a-lot of right-wingers and claimed third-positionists who support the whole DNA tests scramble are either outed as Jews or supporters of Judaism and Israel. I only watch him for his thoughts on the White giants theory and the proof that the German UFOs were successful, which I think the KGB and CIA did somewhat admit they indeed had the flying disks. TLDR, only watch his UFO vids with skepticism.
Why is it that you fascists/third-positionists detest monarchies so much?
>>21500 We detest Christain Monarchism, the only monarchism that people seem to talk about.
>>21500 Monarchists always point to the kind king, who loves his land and people as the example of why the system is preferred. And I will grant you, in an ideal circumstance a kind king, with well intentions, and a council of good meaning advisors would in function be, pretty much the same thing as classical fascism. However kings die, and their heirs often tend to be spoiled entitled brats. Next thing you know, you have some inbred tyrant running things, with very little political will to remove him. The People tend to 'love the crown' and honor the throne as much, if not more so than the person ruling, and will put up with more shit than they should. With fascism, it is a much simpler matter to hang/shoot a poor leader and move on, if need be. Also these days, every faggot that hears he is some distant relation to some nobody line of kings, gets it in his head that he "deserves" to be king. I have news for you faggot. True Leaders are selected by their deeds, not by birthright. If you can inspire men to follow you, overthrow the government and bring about prosperity for your people, we will let you call yourself king for a day, but your son is going to have to prove himself as well if he plans to follow your reign.
>>21500 Personally, I have distain for monarchies because all living monarchists are naked race traitors and almost all monarchists of the 19th and 18th centuries were anti-nationalists who had more loyalty to their trans national tribe than to the people (kinda like jews). Also, many monarchists openly admit that they hate nationalism too.
>>21500 Because our points of contention are the problems facing society and the usefulness in simply having a monarchy solve all of the problems with our respective nations. Gentile put it best: >Fascism has outgrown the dilemma: monarchy v. republic, over which democratic regimes too long dallied, attributing all insufficiencies to the former and proning the latter as a regime of perfection, whereas experience teaches that some republics are inherently reactionary and absolutist while some monarchies accept the most daring political and social experiments. Monarchy's primary tool to solve issues is nothing more than an autocracy that is not typically aligned to any concrete set of ideas to instill into a nation. Spain right now is the modern liberal democracy the Republicans died for because Franco decided to restore the monarchy for a naïve sense of tradition, and not for keeping Spain tied to a nationalist regime. A similar situation would apply to any country in Europe right now that adopts a serious monarchy. The descendants of kings and queens that live and breathe today have mostly been socialized the same way everyone else has, and would thus not deviate from convectional political conduct (retaining democratic institutions, encouraging political pluralism, etc.) in any meaningful way, should they even avoid restricting themselves to a ceremonial position. Mussolini understood that nationalism could not replace the growing liberal and Marxist influence in then-Italian society without major political changes, but also appreciated and made it a goal to preserve the most necessary of reactionary ideas. Tradition for the sake of tradition is meaningless, and Franco not realizing as such costed Spain far more vital traditions, those that have pragmatic effects on communities, which translate into positive effects for the whole of a society. Heterosexual, monogamous, and fornication-free marriage is a practical tool to cure modern ills, a monarchy is not in everywhere in Europe as of now. It is ridiculous to associate a republic or a monarchy with inferior or superior "efficiency" when in the end the relinquishment of our problems falls on the men who lead their nations towards nationalism and militarism and away from hedonism, not the ones who simply make society more "traditional." >>21501 The religion surrounding a monarchy is irrelevant. Christian or secular, a modern monarch in countries such as France or Britain would not change their situations significantly. >>21503 >Monarchists always point to the kind king, who loves his land and people as the example of why the system is preferred. And I will grant you, in an ideal circumstance a kind king, with well intentions, and a council of good meaning advisors would in function be, pretty much the same thing as classical fascism. This is also an important point. Monarchy can be good, but if it has the blueprints of Fascism anyway, then the government should just be ruled by Fascist policy and not tradition alone. Countries would be giving immense political power to people who most likely believe in democracy in the first place, making the entire process redundant.
>>21500 We don't detest monarchies and would support them in their most naturalistic and classical establishment. We are against monarch-"ism" as monarchies and monarchists are apolitical, multicultural, and anti-nationalism. They are inactive cuckservatives who want to serve a great leader, because he wears a crown and is said by clergymen to be given "divine rights" by God. It's trash and it is not a legitimate system, but nostalgia for a past that had overrated governments.
>>21507 >The religion surrounding a monarchy is irrelevant. This is wrong, Aryan monarchies were entirely different from Christian or any other Abrahamic one. Christian monarchism is merely that all humankind are to serve one king who is coronated by YHVH and that king is to serve him. While non-Aryans had similar concepts, Aryans kingship were either electoral or the rulers were severally limited in power and reduced only to devote themselves to nation and state, guide and protect the folk above all. Eastern despotism and despotism was unsupported, unless you exclude the Achaemenids (and Imperial Rome to a degree), in which they use to have an aristocracy similar to the Medians, but this deluded after they both began to absorb Syrian traditions. Modern monarchies are a product of post-Christian failures.
>>21503 >with fascism, it is a much simpler matter to hang/shoot a poor leader and move on, if need be well, roman patricians used to murder their incompetent emperors and they didn't stop until the right emperor would be in charge.
>>21500 I will speak for myself, but I understand why fascists do. & don't blame them, because the track record of collaborating w/ royalty is piss poor. I consider myself a black sheep in the monarchist larper fold & know my politics is universally hated by royalists AND anti-royalists alike... so I won't bother explaining my politics here. I am not a fascist, but neither am I as vehemently anti-fascist like the others. >>21503 >The People tend to 'love the crown' and honor the throne as much, if not more so than the person ruling, and will put up with more shit than they should That only applies to minority (like myself), but the majority of contemporaries I meet basically agree with what you're saying. >3rd screencap, r/monarchism, 44 upvotes on a post saying Nicholas II should have been shot by Bolsheviks for incompetence I have been fairly ostracized by constitutionalist peers (in the majority) for it. >Also, many monarchists openly admit that they hate nationalism too. Yes, this is true. /fascist/ talks about monarchyfags, but should also look at the groups behind this rhetoric. I would broadly say, the constitutionalists are largely represented by Windsor types or Kaiserboos. Then you have the traditionalists, represented by tradcaths or neofeuds. And then the libertarians, represented by Hoppeans. When you talk about this, the groups you're mostly talking about are the tradcaths & Hoppeans (both dislike nationalism for obvious reasons). & the Habsburg / HRE fandom. I would say they are largely responsible for that. >>21510 I agree with a great number of points raised here, b/c with royalists, it really is about the appearance of royalism and the glitter and glamor...
>>21507 >Franco The problem w/ Franco is he didn't think like a hereditary monarchist, first off. Franco should had known better. First Franco rejected the heir's father from taking the throne because he deemed him to be too liberal... then makes himself a regent and basically tries to adopt the son. Hereditary mentality is "like father, like son" -- so Franco honestly should have seen this coming.
>>21500 One of the main thought leaders of neo-reaction who was pushing monarchism is a jew IIRC. Not saying that damns the whole thing but it doesn't help.
>>21503 >with fascism, it is a much simpler matter to hang/shoot a poor leader and move on, if need be Why not, gee I don't know, just ban him from office?
>>21429 After much insistence I actually piqued her interest for a moment as to what the NSDAPs position on Slavs/Russia is/was. Of course thanks to the thorough brainwashing she received over there she genuinely believed that all Hitler wanted was to wipe them out, but nowhere in the literature I have read have I seen this. I also told her if this was the case there would be no Slavs in Ukraine or Belarus or parts of Russia as they would have just killed everyone, but they did not, they just cut a path straight to Moscow to rid the world of the threat of (((bolshevism))) Regarding modern issues I think I have succeeded in part to wake her up to them but she still fails to see who is pulling all the strings. In time hopefully she can see it herself and "connect the dots" as I tell her. Haven't told her about Fauci yet and the thing with the beagles will make her go mad as she is a big animal lover. In general I feel she is like this also because she is weak willed because she was never inspired by her parents, in her words they only clothed her and fed her, and had no interest in her life, nothing more. I've been reading Serrano and Devi and telling her a bit about Hyperborean Ascetism and her response to this is "just do what you like and enjoy myself". Right after she told me I worship demons and I'm an anti-christ I told her even her sacred Christianity says that self indulgence is bad, she could not reply :D:D:D I dont know where this will go but its what I have so I will not throw it away when there is still something worth doing. I recently graduated and good a good job in tech so I want to save some money to start a family, after that maybe I will go back to Europe and if this does not work out maybe I will look someone up in a Nationalist group there, with that most of the ground work should be done, I just have to polish the rough edges. Also if anyone is interested here is the article on Hyperborean Ascetism. If you are into that sort of stuff its really interesting: https://blacksun-sole-nero.net/hyperborean-nordic-ascetism-hyperborea-meditation-celibacy-solitude-diet-speech-miguel-serrano/
>>21500 In my opinion I think its because ultimately everything revolves around one family that for some reason or another are "worthier than others" to rule. Sure we might have a good king, or two, but what happens when the spoiled brat grandson of the original king decides to do something dumb or self-serving on a country-wide scale? What happens when he defiles the race because "he likes exotic things"? In a monarchy there would be few things you could do to remove this specimen from the throne and replace him with someone who is better. For me, in the spirit of National Socialist's "honest pay for honest work", you get to rule only if you worked for it, you are ready for it and you are worthy of it. And I'm not even talking about christian monarchies here... King by the grace of God? I want to see how long the "grace of god" part lasts when the carts of gold stop going to the Vatican and the Pope says that he is no longer "illuminated". The sheeple will probably want a new king then.
>>21500 Tradcaths and others like them give monarchism a bad name. The idea of kingship can't work without proper checks and balances instead of having some old men in robes telling us how to do things when they have no experience setting up nor running a government. Old norms that royalists consider to be 'traditional' such as nepotism is asking to repeat numerous historical mistakes all over again rather than preserve your ancestors' wisdom. Research the years of internal strife civil wars within medieval England and you'll know what I mean. >>21512 >well, roman patricians used to murder their incompetent emperors and they didn't stop until the right emperor would be in charge. Wasn't it actually the praetorian guards? I don't think it was required to be a Patrician or anything of the like to be enlisted as one. >>21534 Sometimes there can be cases where a king can be so powerful or influential that you're just better off killing him. For example, I personally think Caesar deserved his death as he was indeed ruining the Roman Republic and a major inspirator to christian monarchism for a reason (civic nationalism). Not to say the Optimates were any better, because every statesmen in Rome were corrupt.
Does anyone know where I can find more info about the education curriculum of schools in NS Germany? I am really interested in reading about the application of The Program's ideas.
>>21546 Hitler's Revolution briefly mentions them. There were the typical schools that just happened to be in the NS Germany, and then there were the "Adolf Hitler Schools". If those are the ones you're interested in specifically your best bet is to try and find material around AHC as an organization. What is interesting about the AHC is that it was meant to give talented people from lower income families a fighting chance to climb the ranks. I think the NSDAP in general didn't like the idea of "rich therefor powerful" and wanted "talented therefor powerful" to be the new paradigm.
>>21547 >What is interesting about the AHC is that it was meant to give talented people from lower income families a fighting chance to climb the ranks. I think the NSDAP in general didn't like the idea of "rich therefor powerful" and wanted "talented therefor powerful" to be the new paradigm. Totally agree with your interpretation there and I think its right on point as to me it seems like the economy and matters of money were meant to be second in the life of people. The economy served the people and was one of the many tools available to raise the White race above the rest and out of the slavery of interest. I heard about the Adolf Hitler Schools. Its a great concept I think. However I wanted to know more about the topics taught of how many hours were spent weekly on what subject. In Mein Kamf I recall a section where AH mentions how ridiculous the school system at the time was because all it did was pump useless knowledge into the minds of the children and how its appalling that only two hours a week are dedicated to gymnastics. (Incredible how 80 years after he wrote that the private catholic school I attended was the same as he described it, even down to the two hours of gymnastics, weekly... I bet it has not changed now, 100 years after) I wanted to see an application of what he said, as in: Maybe it was 6 hours of gymnastics now, and removed religious classes. Maybe history was increased and replaced foreign languages. Social studies/civics restructured to be more political and intended as an induction course for National Socialism and its core values.
>>21358 Fascism is a form of nationalism based on an organic conception of the people, i.e. one that views the people as a holistic unity with a division of labor and hierarchy, and is founded on a rejection of democracy, liberalism, egalitarianism and internationalism. I feel like most here could accept that definition.
Anyone got that one picture with Hitler going something like "why are you recording an old man?"
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>>21563 >>21358 Fascism isn't merely a form of nationalism. Fascism is the only modern political ideology that is non-materialistic, all other modern political ideologies (capitalism, communism and their derivatives) are based around different ways of organising capital. This is why Fascism doesn't fit on the traditional left-right political scale. Fascism is about the organisation of the people to ensure their maximum prosperity, happiness and social cohesion, all economic decisions are made down stream of this goal. In both capitalist and communist ideologies is social policy is influenced by economics rather than economic policy being influenced by social policy. Fascism is nationalistic because that is what is best for the prosperity of the people, it couldn't be anything else. In the same way that usury is fundamentally internationalist because that is what is best for usury. But it would be wrong to call Usury a form of internationalism in the same way that it is wrong to call Fascism a for of nationalism.
>>21646 Not merely nationalistic, of course, but nationalism is of course inseparably tied to fascism. It's different than your usury analogy, I would say. Because we can conceive of usury both in international and national contexts without contradiction (regardless of its desirability), but we cannot imagine a fascism without nationalism, because it would cease to be fascism. Nationalism forms an essential attribute of fascism.
>>21358 Fascism is a political manifestation of the timeless worldview of eternal Absolute Truth. the historical conditions make out the material manifestation. All "ideologies"/manifestations that do not adhere to eternal Truth are either out of ignorance or as opposed to it and thus they are Falsehoods. Falsehoods are many but the Truth is one, One falsehood may oppose other falsehoods but they all are enemy of the Truth. Any cellular organisms that isn't united in Totality/adhere to Natural Laws is unhealthy and thus will inevitably fall.
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I got banned from leftypol for this post. There was no discussion, no refutation, just an instant ban. 4chan's /pol/ would never ban someone for posting "I'm leaving right-wing politics". Would such a post get you banned from /fascist/? Also, I'm an ex-leftist... Am I welcome here?
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>>21695 >assuming this is not bait Hitler considered himself a leftist growing up. Likewise, before I ever became political, when I was young I always thought I was leftist, would even say far-left. Believing that society should be structured in such a way that it is for the betterment of all. Later on, I wouldn't even say my viewpoint change very much. For the most part, it seemed more like the political landscape beneath my feet moved. I felt as though I didn't 'move' right, more like the world had moved left. Keep in mind, most of us here are not "Nazi's", but Fascists (from the Latin word fascis meaning "bundle" literally symbolizing "Strength through Unity") and National Socialists. >vast majority of us are unintelligent people >This is goodbye, That said, it would be hard not to see a similar post here, as anything other than a troll post. If you tried to shit up the board by making a thread of it, rather than just a post in qtddtot, you might have caught a ban if were up to me. >I'm an ex-leftist Reject the paradigm Embrace the Third Position
>>21695 Left and right is an oversimplification. At the very least you have to talk about the spectrums of Economics, Social Matters and Libertarian/Authoritarian. It's like those political diagrams you see with Economics as the x-axis and Libertarian/Authoritarian as the y-axis; which also shows how people tend to conflate economic and social matters when really they're independent. For example, many people think if you're left-leaning on economics you have to be socially on the left as well and support homosexuality and diversity and abortion etc., when logically those things are not connected: you can be economically on the left and socially on the right, for example. In fact, that conflation of social and economic matters is another jewish trick. Most people are broadly on the left on economics, so the jews conflate that with social liberalism to promote all sorts of degeneracy that destroy families and societies. They also use this confusion of ideas to trick people into supporting people who push socially leftists ideas. So for example in America, they get Democrats to push abortion, immigration, trannyism etc., and as a result people are fooled into thinking Democrats are economically left-wing, when in reality Democrats serve the interests of big business and the bankers over ordinary people, like all political groups do. (In reality left-wing parties these days are pushing us towards Marxism, which is certainly not economically left-wing. As you point out, Marxism is a trick to get people to support the destruction of the middle class and create a society where most people own very little and have almost no rights, and a few control and own everything).
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>>21695 Keep lurking, fren
>>21695 i have had a lot of bad experiences with leftypol, mostly being that they never seem to want to have a discussion with you if you seem to believe something they are opposed to or even if you just stray from their dogma a tiny bit, but your post does kinda look like an astroturfing drive-by in a vacuum.
>>21683 (((Absolute))) (((One))) Stop shilling the most subversive lie in history as the Truth. Only a kike would present a proven falsehood as an ultimate truth.
>>21705 >implying the idea of "Truth" with a capital-T can even exist without an Absolute or One Kill yourself, philosophylet
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>>21709 >Brainlet cannot conceptualize non-convergent, transcendental, multi-focal, acausal Truths all containing a mutual framework allowing them to interact as a shared, but not absolute set >Doesn't know that Truth allows for multiple planes of causation >Not knowing that perspectivism is the final synthesis of subjectivism and objectivism
>>21710 >he fell for the death of God meme and can't even grasp the thing-in-itself Sad. All of your posts are just your perspective according to your paradigm and so irrelevant to me, anyway
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>>21705 >Fascism >"""a proven falsehood""" LOOOOL Read actual NS literature instead of spewing out "SHILL!!1 SHILLL!!!" straight out of old cripplekikechan /pol/. Hitler himself SHARES this viewpoint in MK (provided that's it's the Dalton translation). "Man must never fall into the insanity of thinking that he was meant to become lord and master of nature, which a half-education has helped to encourage. Man must realize the fundamental necessity of nature’s rule, and realize that his existence is subject to the law of eternal strift and upward struggle. He will then feel that there cannot be a separate law for mankind in a universe in which planets orbit suns, moons orbit planets, and where the strong are always the masters of the weak—subjecting them to such laws, or crushing them. Man must submit to the eternal principles of this supreme wisdom. He may try to understand them, but he can never free himself from their sway." "If a spiritual conception of a general nature is to serve as the basis of future development, then the first prerequisite is to form a clear understanding of its nature, character, and scope. Only on such a basis can a movement be founded that will be able to draw the necessary fighting strength. From general ideas, a political program must be constructed, and a general worldview must by imprinted by a definite political faith. Since this faith must be directed towards practical ends, it must not only serve the general ideal as such, but it must also take into consideration the means that have to be employed for the triumph of the ideal. Here the practical wisdom of the statesman must come to the assistance of the abstract idea, which is correct in itself. Thus an eternal ideal, as a guiding star to mankind, must be adapted to the weaknesses of humanity so that its practical effect won’t be frustrated at the very outset due to general human inadequacy. The searcher for truth must here go hand in hand with one who has a practical knowledge of the human soul, so that we may select from the realm of eternal truths and ideals those which are best-suited to the capacities of human nature, and give them practical form." Below here is from "I Fight" aka Ich Kampfe. This is what they gave to new members that joined to read. "National Socialism serves eternal laws. This requires acceptance of the eternal laws to unselfishly serve the community and the welfare of the German nation and to live according to the eternal laws of our blood as they are expressed in the National Socialist Weltanschauung. This is where the party member seeks and finds the purpose of his existence ultimately expressed." Two plus two equals four is an famous example of Truth, the eternal laws of Nature manifesting itself in the material world. to assume otherwise is some faggy relativistic shit.
>>21701 Leftoid subhuman.
Can you list the characteristics of both Nietzsche's and Hitler's idea of the ubermensch?
>>21713 Based. Relativism has no place in National Socialism. This is why Hitler embraced true Aryan science and wisdom so much, because of its objectivity, its truth, its eternality.
>>21701 >For example, many people think if you're left-leaning on economics you have to be socially on the left as well and support homosexuality and diversity and abortion etc., when logically those things are not connected: you can be economically on the left and socially on the right, for example. Except that there is no such thing as economically left nor right. The left-right political spectrum is artificial and exists to prevent you from having using any organic political solutions. The left-right dichotomy is merely factionalism that existed out of liberal democracies. >>21701 This meme is gay and wrong. This can be easily debunked if you know that anti-racism articles have existed outside of NYT and first began in the 1960s with Marxist and Jewish influencers. Left-wingers have been complaining about racism since Lenin's as he claimed it was "zoological materialism". The left was always retarded and controlled by wealthy Jews.
>>21705 >(Absolute))) >(((One))) >>21710 >>Not knowing that perspectivism is the final synthesis of subjectivism and objectivism Why be a National Socialist if you're going to have views that completely contradict both the Mein Kampf and NS ideological framework as a whole?
>>21723 >This meme is gay and wrong You don't find it plausible that the corporate jewish media pushing the boogeyman of racism exponentially following the 2008 recession/bailouts and OWS, to distract from their consolidation of the economy after the 2008 recession and OWS? It may not tell the entire story but I think there's a bit of insight there.
>>21727 >You don't find it plausible that the corporate jewish media pushing the boogeyman of racism I'm calling your meme ignorant, because it's pretends that the fault of the racism boogeyman wasn't in partially the fault of Marxists as they were staunchly against racism as liberals are, so you're just deflecting what I'm saying here with a stupid question. Scapegoating American media as the reason why commies are faggots is a cope and what's even dumber about the wojack maymay is that it thinks Occupy Wall-street were ever a threat to Jews when it was actually ran by a bunch of hippies and drug addicts who never going to do anything against exploitative capitalism.
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Hello /fascist/, I want to become hitler 2.0 and save my country from jew destruction, How do I form my own natsoc workers party from the ground up? I need to know how to recruit and vet people into the party because I don't want any glowniggers infesting the thing, I need a second in command and people to fill vital roles such as security and propaganda. My main goal is to have a small sustainable party at first that provides services for the youth and the elderly against poverty, crime, homelessness, joblessness and suicide. What I want to know is where do I start off? Do I go door to door, hand out leaflets, put up posters and get word of mouth advertising to get people to join? Or do I setup an office somewhere and try to hire candidates to fill these positions? Country is an absolute shithole right now on par with eastern european countries, I want to get rid of the root cause of these issues and bring my country to the highest possible standards whilst being a militaristic nation of soldiers. Main issue right now is the formation of the party, once I get it up and running there should be no problems in getting rid of democracy and capitalism. I'm not a good speaker and have never had any leadership roles before so what should I expect going into this? Should I get a proper national socialist uniform to go along with my campaign? How expensive might this endeavor be because I have no funding and little savings, I don't know how much it would cost to print posters and leaflets or to get armbands in bulk, couldn't cost that much right? Are there any tips I should know before going deep into this or anything I can learn from past national socialist leaders? If everything goes well the party should be fully operational this year, the party will be 100% peaceful and no calls to violence will be needed, I expect to win by democratic vote and only then will I get the chance to overturn the system. Any ideas on what I should focus on first once the party is up and running? I was thinking about immigration issues and getting young people off the streets and into a hitler youth like organization where they can learn proper life skills, any ideas on what uniform they should have and what type of survival knife should be made official? I need to buy that stuff in bulk so I can sell it onto the youths at a decent price, should I contract a company to make uniforms, badges and knives or should I start my own company to do it for myself instead? Another thing is instilling our language and culture onto the youth, I don't want them speaking english anymore, gotta bring back the native language in all its glory so we can become a true independent country. This is all I can think of for now, any help is greatly appreciated and I thank you for reading this.
>>21722 I can already predict his response. He's gonna say Hitler "believed in perspectivist plural-truths without the Absolute" which is hilariously wrong with this mentioned: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: In defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." "Why wouldn’t it be possible to induce people to make this sacrifice if, instead of such a precept, they were simply told that they ought to put an end to this original sin of racial poisoning? And further, if they realized their duty to give to the Almighty Creator beings such as he himself created?" Hell, he mentioned 'Providence' many times as well to Goddesses of Fate, Doom and Destiny. On the other hand. so many fucking arguments and questions in this board can be seriously solved if one actually took the time to read Ironmarch's literature and Third Reich literature as well look at the infographs I dumped here, years of research and self-education, blood, piss and sweat on NSDAP and IM didn't just go down in vain so anons argue the same shit everyday. It would be actual step-up in board quality if anons here begin to criticize Christianity as lunar terrestrial religion that isn't solar hyperborean at all instead of funny kike man in stick or criticize Late roman era polytheistic paganism as a involuted decayed failure and weak worldview instead of lol capeshit worship Thor man. >>>/library/1289 https://web.archive.org/web/20170224025618/http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/ Enjoy.
>>21737 You're just as dumb as he is. >"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: In defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." You do know that Hitler was not referring to Yahweh or the Christian God, right? Nowhere in the Mein Kampf does he directly references the Jewish God as almighty or the creator. >It would be actual step-up in board quality if anons here begin to criticize Christianity as lunar terrestrial religion that isn't solar hyperborean at all instead of funny kike man Correct, you and the traitors of National Socialism set an example that you are forever cucked and are eternally the slaves of Jews. Prove me wrong without a book that speaks words, but not actions of its fools. >in stick or criticize Late roman era polytheistic paganism as a involuted decayed failure Nigger what? Roman paganism was never decayed nor even Greek. What has failed, the fact that they didn't worship a Jew? The fact they didn't turn their men into literal cuckolds who have black sons? Or how about retarded faggots who unironically think we are all Israelites and declare that this isn't Judeo at all. Your nigger God doesn't even like you. Fascism is incompatible with Christcuckoldry. Prove me wrong or get banned and go back to worshipping a dumb hippie who didn't even exist.
Is there anywhere to look up, like, I dunno how to word this right but; George Washington's actual intentions for America? In fact, wasn't there a board dedicated to a similar political view before 8chan got the nuke?
>>21743 Where the fuck did I refer Yahweh as "Almighty Creator" AT ALL? Holy shit you are retarded as FUCK. by the failure of "polytheistic paganism" I mean the fact that it even allowed men to be converted to Christianity in the first place, the fact that narcissistic virtue-signalling weak men who, born after all the good and peaceful times of paganism allowed themselves to be swayed by the feels and whimpering nature of Saul of Taurus's feminine lunar Abrahamism So fuck you for assuming i'm one even, nigger. There is nothing inherently wrong with polytheism but it died for a reason. it wasn't rigid and strong as well fanatical to fight off the rising tides. Polytheism of the Ancients is dead and Christianity as well in the modern West is dying, and in just time you and I both know what the new future religion of Europe will be. Face it, Hitlerism is and WILL be the future religion.
>>21744 >Where the fuck did I refer Yahweh as "Almighty Creator" AT ALL? Unholy autism, you are a dumbass nigger and are going on this same tangent of autism trying to conflate One supreme entity as the same God you Christfags believe in. Look at your low-IQ statements. <Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: In defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." You're implying the usage of the word 'lord' is being used the same way Christians refer to Yahweh, which he isn't using the same context. Then your sperg out on pagans, due to butthurt. <t would be actual step-up in board quality if anons here begin to criticize Christianity as lunar terrestrial religion that isn't solar hyperborean at all instead of funny kike man in stick or criticize Late roman era polytheistic paganism as a involuted decayed failure and weak worldview instead of lol capeshit worship Thor man. Conflating Polytheism as a dichotomy and thinking you hold a truthful view of the Creator. Fucking retard. You Christcucks don't think for shit. Your religion is the reason why Europe is fucked. Stop being delusional and a stupid faggot thinking a woman's religion is going to save shit when you don't even lift a figure against mudslimes and niggers, because "muh racism!".
>Polytheism died for a reason Due to subversion and a bunch of mutt elites who shared no loyalty to Rome. It died out as a result of the Kali Yuga and turning age into it's peak of becoming a shithole. Christianity served its purpose in ruining Europe, there was never any ounce of evolution.
>>21728 >your meme It's just an edit of a /leftypol/ porky meme to make it name the jew, as is tradition
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>>21757 >>21758 Anon... Chill your tits down and re-read what I fucking posted, Where the fuck did I refer myself as a Christcuck? Where did I imply that Hitler's intentions of the "lord" quote were Christian at all? WHERE DID I IMPLY THAT HITLER'S "ALMIGHTY CREATOR" IS THE CHRISTIAN GOD? You're confusing me with TOR-anon judging from your exclusion of replies and the possible fact you're sleep-deprived, Get some rest. Hitlerism/National Socialism is why EUROPE IS FUCKED? LOL NIGGER WHAT? You're also bringing up Savitri out of nowhere despite the fact that she barely to do with the fact that there are millions of NS in North America, western and eastern Europe. >Due to subversion and a bunch of mutt elites who shared no loyalty to Rome. It died out as a result of the Kali Yuga and turning age into it's peak of becoming a shithole. How is this a disagreement? You pointed out the same issue I brought out.
>>21766 >Anon... Chill your tits down <UNHOLY FUCK!!!! >constant all caps Holy fuck shut up and go glow somewhere else.
>>21758 Polytheism died because it stunted the European mind scientifically and philosophically. Everyone with a brain knows that there are no 'gods' living in the clouds sending down rain or moving in the sun or the moon across the sky. Polytheism is from a worldview which predates the Laws of Nature. It is a chaotic worldview, where each aspect of Nature is under the control of different, often volatile, personalities and figures. This isn't how Nature works. Nature is harmonious, law-based and unified. This is the imprint of oneness upon multiplicity. There is one Creator behind the world we see. Numerous entities live within it that ancient Europeans and unenlightened savages today regard as solar, lunar or sky gods. Many of these are the same as UFOs, energy-beings, ghosts and similar entities. Respect them only as much as they show you benevolence (which can vary greatly). The mystical experiences of actual sages, scientific research into near-death experiences, and similar things all refute this worldview that you are shilling.
>>21795 No it didn't, we are constantly, despite all the jewish shillery against it, finding out our ancestors were far more advanced than we thought despite the seemingly primitive trappings, there isn't just one God, Nature is multifacted and dually chaotic and orderly, Destructive and creative, and it's laws are the will of the Universe/orlog/ whatever you wish to call the truly supreme being, it also seems to have willed that there exist a multitude of gods, failure to recognize this is childish and overly simplistic.
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>>21770 >Actual evidence in MK posted as refutation <go glow somewhere else!11 This is the best that you could come up with? lol fuck off back to Cuckchan /pol/ faggot
What is your opinion about Miles Mathis? He wrote a paper about Adolf Hitler being Jewish with proof.
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>>21897 https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/06/the-myth-of-hitlers-jewish-grandfather/ This covers the entirety of the bullshit Mathis spews, and links to the works of actual geneaogists who have researched Hitlers pedigree, Mathis's lies are all based on the similarity and outright thievery of German or other Aryan names names by jews or the use of jewish names by Aryans because of Christniggery all based on inconsistencies he finds in public jewish-owned publications and articles, don't believe me? Check the attached file out for yourself.
>>21735 >the party will be 100% peaceful and no calls to violence will be needed You are a fruitcake. There is no political solution. Violence is the only answer to an attempted genocide. Now fuck off you boomer faggot shill.
Any thoughts on the German Faith Movement?
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>>21713 >>21724 >Point out a logical and mathematical fallacy that the entire Judeo-Masonic worldview and their power structure are based on <A bunch of kikes and/or their shabbos goylems throw themselves at your post making baseless claims and misplaced quotes that in no way contradict your position to try to pilpul and spin whatever misinterpretation was real in their minds >Two plus two equals four is an famous example of Truth So is (((One))) being a false god and there being no such thing as the (((Absolute))). The concept is both logically and mathematically false. At least the other kike tried to pull some kind of "YOU ARE NOT LE TRULY SPIRITUAL IF YOU DON'T UNQUESTIONABLY BELIEVE IN JUDAISM" angle because he knew he didn't have any ground to stand on when it comes to reason, while you are starting to thread in a rather uncanny territory for your kind >>21722 Perspectivism is not relativism. Your pillars and chessboard pseudo-dichotomies won't work here pal. You are presenting monotheistic absolutism as the only alternative to solipsistic nihilism, which is akin to presenting communism as the only alternative to capitalism, or vice-versa. Team red vs team blue, both serving the Jew. What I'm proposing is the third position. Objective and subjective are a mutual-feedback loop. >>21737 >Hell, he mentioned 'Providence' many times Will you use those quotes out of context to show how he was a Freemason now? >There is nothing inherently wrong with polytheism but it died for a reason It died when it stopped being polytheism, with the first notions of the "absolute" or some kind of "supreme being". You are either a polytheist fundamentalist or a monotheist. Monotheism won solely thanks to Judaic agentur infiltrating royal courts and riling up the unwashed masses to zerg rush their betters. Soviets didn't win on eastern front thanks to having better tanks, but thanks to having more of them. Quantity vs quality.
>>21913 At least you gave an actual argument this time. >So is (((One))) being a false god and there being no such thing as the (((Absolute))). The concept is both logically and mathematically false. How? Isn't the definition of Perspectivism about how all knowledge comes from sensory-perspective only? If all views are interpretations then how do you know if your or mine is right? If you reject all perspectives besides yours which you think is 'truths' wouldn't that be solipsism? Wouldn't that also be objective according to your own perception? Who's gonna stop other people from deciding Truths and Nature don't exist from THEIR perception? How would the 'Truth' in someone's perception not avoid destruction when he inevitably dies? Unless you are suggesting he somehow had access to his own immaterial realm of plural-truths? Then where do they come from if you say they are 'uncreated' and since the person mentioned is living a finite life? I would appreciate if you fully elaborated on this weird and complex perspectivist viewpoint you have and the complex issue of "acausal plural Truths only in someone's perception". The third position? Ironically my friend, you are operating in a modernistic political "right-left" spectrum dichotomy here, the definition of "Third Position" is used by Strasserists and duginist Nazbols to describe "socially right and economically left ideologies." "Economically left" a term used by delusional modernist economists which Hitler explicitly says economics is the least important part of History, Always. "The instinct for the preservation of one’s own species is the primary cause that leads to the formation of human communities. Hence the state is a racial organism, and not an economic organization. The difference between the two is so great as to be incomprehensible to our contemporary so-called ‘statesmen.’ That’s why they like to believe that the state may be constituted as an economic structure, whereas the truth is that it has always resulted from a will to preserve the species and the race. The qualities that are employed for the foundation and preservation of a state have therefore little or nothing to do with economics. And this is clearly demonstrated by the fact that the inner strength of a state only very rarely coincides with its economic prosperity. On the contrary, there are many examples showing that such prosperity indicates the approaching decline of a state. If it were correct to attribute the foundation of human societies to economic forces, then the power of the state would be at its peak during periods of economic prosperity, and not vice versa. It is particularly difficult to understand how the belief that the state exists by virtue of economic forces could become accepted in a country that has given proof of the opposite, in every phase of its history. The history of Prussia shows, in a particularly clear and distinct way, that it’s not material qualities but rather ideal virtues alone that lead to the formation of a state. Only under the protection of those virtues can economic activities be developed; the latter will continue to flourish until a time comes when the creative political capacity declines. Then the economic structure will also break down—a phenomenon that’s happening now, in an alarming manner, before our eyes. The material interests of humanity can prosper only in the shadow of heroic virtues. As soon as they become the primary considerations of life, they destroy the basis of their own existence." The term "Third Position" is described as beyond 'left' and 'right', both "anti-communist and anti-capitalist" which means it's unnecessary to describe a 'ideology' or worldview because National Socialism/Fascism already exists. The only ones who would unironically use "Third Position" are delusional Strasserists. It is a term of (((Modernity))) while the Fascist worldview already existed in the world of Tradition. where it was already the worldview of the Spartans and the ancient Germans as well ancestral Aryan invaders from the Pontic–Caspian steppe. >It died when it stopped being polytheism, with the first notions of the "absolute" or some kind of "supreme being". You should also elaborate on this. the notion of a "supreme being" or "tribal chief of the Gods" predated before the subversive Abrahamist kind of Monotheism happened at all. Dyaus Pitar the god of the Aryans is one example as well Zeus, Wotan. Rod (the Slavic supreme god). Xucau (the Iranic/Ossetian supreme god).
>>21907 massive failure
Where do I start as a complete beginner if I want to read about the true history of the Aryan race? I've looked in the Hidden History thread >>2541 but it assumes knowledge I don't have. I need to start right from the basics.
>>21940 Read Pierce's Who we are it fives a good if a bit dry History of the Aryan race, then Perhaps Kemp's March of Titans and for history focusing on the Christian Question, you start with this book https://hojaseliminadas.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/fair-race-15-sep-20.pdf which includes some of Who We Are in it as well as information on Anthropology etc.
>>21941 Oh and if you want to know the behavior of the allies during and after WW2, read this Hellstorm, a bit pro-Christcucky but eminently informative and a good historical read nonetheless.
>>21872 >he still thinks God and gods are the same Literally NGMI. You are still bound by the English language. Sanskrit doesn't have this problem. The advanced Aryan mind would have conformed itself to Vedic modes of thought long ago.
>>21946 No, the advanced Aryan mind would have realized Vedicism is corrupted by time and shitskin hands and minds and the only way forward is to eschew the past taking only what is useful and true and proceeding to rebuild from scratch.
>>21948 >the advanced Aryan mind I can tell that you have never pursued any form of serious Vedic sadhana, because you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself like this. It's real and it works.
>>21940 What sort of knowledge are you lacking? >>21913 >Perspectivism is not relativism. How can you say that? That's just your perspective bro, it's not the truth. The foremost shill for perspectivism was Nietzsche, who outright advocated that there was no such thing as truth and that there were only interpretations of phenomena and that morality didn't exist and was just symptoms of a certain kind of life. This is basically how leftists think today. Your entire leftoid philosophy debunks every single point you make, because it's just your perspective and interpretation, and I have no reason why I should give a shit about what you say then. Imagine not going for Absolute Truth.
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>>21925 >At least you gave an actual argument this time. I do it all the time across the board, you should pay more attention before you begin to argue. See this post >>13536 and prior/afterwards discussion >How? Look up Godel's theorems, transcendental (non-commensurate) numbers, the concept of the boundless space, German idealism, Hermeticism etc. Also, read on the concept of Zero (incl. ancient texts that have Vedic undertones, remnants of the real ancient knowledge (in opposition to the Brahmanistic monism that usually gets shilled here), if the Judeo-Masonic gang didn't remove/memoryhole/reinterpret them already). It is the quintessential Aryan number (number of the uncreated Gods and race of the transcendent, acausal gods manifesting itself as the White race on earth), while One is the quintessential Judaic golem/animal-man number, the number of the created. They are trying to sell you their (inherently limited) perspective as the ultimate truth, with the goal to keep you enslaved to their god, which is in its finality, inferior to a fully actualized, double born (Aryan) White man. And that's the real reason behind White genocide/corruption/dysgenics. >Isn't the definition of Perspectivism about how all knowledge comes from sensory-perspective only? I pretty much coined that term myself to make a distinction, but I guess it was already taken lol. Either way, the idea is that objective Laws (such as mathematics, metaphysics, things into themselves etc.) exist, supporting essentialist philosophy (as opposed to modernism and relativism), but that those very Laws not only permit, but make a-priori, the existence of multiple planes of causation, centers of generation, Wills, Selfs etc. These planes interact within the infinite but shared framework, creating what we perceive as reality. And they are not equal, some planes are infinitely inferior compared to others (just as finite sets are inferior to infinite sets, which are inferior to transcendental "sets"). Ultimately, I am proposing a position that is an irrefutable axiom against egalitarianism, at ANY level, as well as the ultimate guarantee of individual sovereignty, under the condition that it was a-priori transcendental and not created. Solipsism (and absolute subjectivism as it's logical conclusion) also terminate into One, just in the opposite direction (circle, kikel). You have a lot to learn before you can hope to navigate this labyrinth. Third Position refers to a worldview transcending Masonic pillars of deception, a synthesis that generates (or rather, allows the manifestation of) something greater than the sum of its parts. >both "anti-communist and anti-capitalist" That's literally what Fascism is. Both communism and capitalism are exclusively materialist, zero-sum game theories. >"tribal chief of the Gods" It was just a normal, natural hierarchy. Those Gods often fought each other, changed their rank and status based on their deeds and tragedies, or even got completely overthrown (like in Olympian mythology). There was no supreme God in the sense of there being some kind of ultimate overmind/deity that is the basis of all that exists and that represents some kind of totality that everything else is forever subject to. A very important distinction to make. Those who failed to do so, eventually got subverted into accepting Abrahamism.
>>21950 I was simply quoting you, or rather that othe TOR anon and you apparently missed me saying take what is useful, still very little beyond the concept of Natural Law seems at all useful, no White man wants the trappings of the bullshit of the shitskins of india for the last 3000 years, no matter how Aryan they once were.
>>21957 But we have the original Aryan teachings. Obviously, that influence is in the distant past, and India has degenerated since then. But just because recent practice is corrupt and degraded (fraudulent gurus, a petrified & unjust caste system, etc) doesn't take anything away from the original influence. >>21795 You don't know what you're talking about. The defeat of European paganism was for two reasons: 1. Paganism in general depends on a Volk and a healthy society. Its rituals are very public, to the point that it's difficult to practice in a fragmented, private manner. If the body social collapses, paganism tends to go down with it, and that's what happened to the Greco-Roman world. Really, this whole divide between Church & State is a modern innovation; in the ancient world, religion and public life were blended together. To get a sense of this, just consider Shinto in Japan, and how the Japanese participate in it as a religion, and as just public holidays. 2. Paganism was replaced by Abrahamism, which is aggressive and virulent by nature. When Rome was strong, it could suppress the viral load of Christianity, but when the Western Empire collapsed, infection became rampant. By sero-converting the people, this prevented paganism from achieving natural regrowth, which would've happened otherwise. tl;dr: Paganism depends on a healthy society & volk, and when this declined, the people were infected by an aggressive Abrahamic virus, which prevented natural recovery. also, Paganism is perfectly consistent with Natural Law, and a proper scientific understanding of the world.
>>21956 I see. Thanks, I have checked Godel's incompleteness theorems and other things you have suggested. In my turns I have discovered the concept of Anekantavada, However I have one question. Would the realm of the uncreated be counted as a living entity like Mother Nature? some sort of species with the equivalent of the Jungian collective unconsiousness?
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>>21953 A tree exists, objectively. Its causes and effects are objective (within the specific, actualized, linear time-space category) as well. A squirrel and an artist come in front of the tree. They objectively exist as well. However, a squirrel sees a tree as a potential nesting place and possible food source. Period. That is squirrel's perspective, and it's real, regardless of its limitations. The artist however, sees a tree as something entirely else. An artwork of nature, perhaps something more than its generated constituency, or even something 'divine'. This is a very different perspective compared to a squirrel's, yet, equally real. When he makes a painting, the objective tree informs his mind, but what he creates on the canvas is not the same. Now, a squirrel would completely deny the artist's perspective, because it lacks it. However, if one knows that all phenomena are mental in nature, he would know that the subjective experience is equally important as the objective. Not more, not less. Otherwise, no subjective experiences would exist at all, since the "divine order" can function perfectly well without them as well. "Leftists" deny any higher perspectives becuase they are NPC's. Ironically, you are showing to be no better than them. At the highest level, they are a mutual-feedback loop and inform each other, to the point of generating alternate timelines, time-spaces etc. and influencing interacting sets. But only according to a certain mathematical/metaphysical rules. What does not adhere to these, cannot manifest and interact with the manifested/objective, or eventually disintegrates. Perspectives are a fundamental, a-priori necessity of objective existence, and indeed, the actual Absolute Truth. However, not all perspectives are equal (nor unique), nor are all of them true at the higher level (Think of bashing your keyboard randomly and comparing that to a work of Shakespeare, while both are real as a literary expression of some kind, the former is completely meaningless as anything else) . Some (most) perspectives are based on the finite, and within that category, you have the functional and the dysfunctional. Functional is what we may call the Natural law, and dysfunctional are various degeneracies and delusions. Dysfunctional perspectives are doomed to terminate within their own domain. The error of egalitarians ("leftists") is the assumption that all perspectives are fundamentally equal and equally valuable. The reality is, that most of them are completely worthless and quintessentially 'ugly'/defective, within the finite category alone, not to mention the higher categories. The (intentional) error of monism is to assume that all noumena emerge from and converge into a single point, that we are all different perspectives of the same mind experiencing itself, and that any mental state can "evolve" into another, which is ultimately false. The mental domain of the artist, and that of the squirrel might be completely, unabridgedly separate at the root level. How do they interact then? Simply, their minds both contain a duplicate set of information, or, they are informed by projecting themselves into a shared domain. But the artist also contains what quite literally doesn't exist for the squirrel, and never will. In this lifetime, or the next. Also, while there could be a infinitely finite instances of one, another one might be unique. What I am proposing is the anti-thesis of "leftist" philosophy, but without falling into either dualistic or monistic traps.
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>>21941 Thanks >>21953 >What sort of knowledge are you lacking? Earliest origins of the Aryans, their spread across the world, their culture, religion and civilization, it's development, interactions with other races and civilizations, genetic relationships etc. I just stumbled across this, looks like it might be a good documentary on The Classical World: https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/the-classical-world-in-a-nutshell_GNEPXwj6Y29IfYs.html
>>21971 What I actually meant to upload was this
>>21959 You're not even addressing the critique, you are merely saying the normal platitudes and rhetoric that people on this board use. All of the properly philosophical and scientific currents in pagan Europe were moves away from the mindless cultic rituals and superstitions of the average person, and it doesn't take much digging to see the truth of this. True natural law-based worldviews only developed under the influence of strong monotheistic traditions that didn't crowd out nature with a host of beings controlling a myriad of different natural aspects. It's a false imposition of the way human society works onto nature. The gods of polytheism can't be reached via rational argument, but a deistic God certainly can. There's nothing rational about believing a god lives in the sun or the clouds. Europeans have advanced beyond this, and there's a reason why the savages in India and other places are so foreign to the advanced European mindset of today, which was created in stable monotheistic and rational cultures. Polytheism is a defective worldview, I don't care what you think of Abrahamic religions, because that is beside the point.
>>21971 >>21972 One must also understand the current picture of the origins of mankind is fundamentally flawed and relies on the assumption of recent human origin. Watch this when you get some time, it's only the tip of the iceberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH0sn-vxV0
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Wait. I just realised something, Question to a3a9ff/dbcbc5 anon here if he is still here. Wouldn't using human theorizing, methods and logic such as "Gödel's theorems" and other stuff be pointless to use to describe something immaterial and incomprehensible? We don't even know what actually happens after death so it's actually impossible to prove if either Plural-Truths or Absolute-Truth is right. If mathematics is material level then wouldn't it be pointless to try use it to disprove something which is far beyond any organisms here on this plane? Why would a extradimensional being like the Lovecraftian mythos gods give a shit if a limited three-dimensional being uses three-dimensional methods to try to disprove his power?
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>>21994 You are 100% right. This is why real mysticism will always be founded on apophatic principles. It's describing domains of experience that are so far removed from the world that we are familiar with that they can only be described by saying what they are not, and this is the reason why in the mystic domain, symbols, paradoxes and similar things abound. The three-dimensional world that we regularly experience is akin to the shadows on the wall of the cave in Plato's allegory. Higher dimensional entities and mystics literally transcend such petty limitations. Even reading up on things such as near-death experiences (which are being studied scientifically more and more) show that the nature of the reality described completely break and bend the rules of everyday reality.
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>>21996 He could be a secret historian and metaphysician in plain sight could he not? What did he know that we don't?
>>21998 Lovecraft wasn't perfect, but from looking into him, it is clear that he had Spenglerian influences and was aware of the terminal decadence of the West, and was familiar to some extent or another in the importance of race. He married a Jewess though, unfortunately, but it does seem like he was capable of understanding some topics discussed here rather intuitively. He is 100% correct than the average person in this world today would go insane if they knew the true nature of reality that is normally hidden from them.
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>>21967 >Anekantavada Gave it a quick glance, it seems to be similar to what I am proposing, but more along the lines of Theosophy, which is misleading. Read >>13536 and the associated discussion to see it explained in Vedic context. Brahman is real and interconnected, but not fixed or the absolute. It's a feminine mold/framework (or a projector) giving birth to both the mental manifestations and physical/dimensional phenomena, based on certain rules. The created Atmans see it as the ultimate limit of existence (The Absolute), the uncreated Atmans see past it, into the domain of Zero, from whence their acausal, highest Selves have projected themselves onto the Brahman, but never in entirety due to Brahman, despite it's finitely infinite nature, still being a limited set. So in a sense, Brahman being absolute or not, as well as Atman being inferior, equal or superior to Brahman, depends on the inherent quality and nature of every individual Atman. Which means that when the designated "guru" of this board claims how Brahman/One is absolute, and when I claim that it is not, both statements are true, without contradicting each other, because the ultimate reality/perspective of his existence, and the ultimate reality/perspective of mine, are not the same, despite partaking of the same objective reality and being able to interact. To a larger (but not entirely exclusive) extent, this applies to races as well. TL;DR this nigger might as well be arguing with "Vishnu" or "Shiva" without realizing it. >Would the realm of the uncreated be counted as a living entity like Mother Nature? Depends on what do you mean by "living". On one hand, it's certainly more alive than One, which is eternal stasis/spiritual death, on another, it is the state of total annihilation of the created. And it's not really an entity, since it's boundless and transcends any particulars, as well as multi-focal by nature (or rather, non-focal). In theory, it could sever every connection between two created entities (or even the universes), being the ultimate separator as well as the ultimate 'gateway' beyond the cycles of Brahman. Definitely not something collective, nor accessible for most. When it comes to species, we could say that acausal beings are a "spiritual race" of sorts, to use Evola's term. And this race does not compromise on quality (unless it has a reason to or gets confused), hence why the physical racism as well. >>21994 >incomprehensible For you Protip: It's not. But the less you understand, the more you fall prey to those who do. That's why the usual (((bullshitters))) will keep trying to sell you some canned pilpul as "spirituality". >If mathematics is material level It's not. Material/dimensional is only a very small subset of it. While it does not represent spiritual experiences completely, it is the best means available for communicating them properly (at the highest level), and putting them under scrutiny. Lower minds don't have any use for it because their beliefs are worthless. Let's not forget that mathematics originated among Aryan mystics due to necessity to express certain ideas. >Why would a extradimensional being like the Lovecraftian mythos gods give a shit Because you could calculate how to hit it where it hurts. As well as gauge your future incarnations. Knowledge is power. >>21996 I'm pretty sure this is a bot at this point
>>21998 From my admittedly minimal knowledge of his work, he seemed to have an reasonably good understanding of hyperbolic geometry. While that doesn't make him a metaphysician, it does show, at the bare minimum, that his interest in "incomprehensible" spaces was beyond superficial and that he had some interest in higher mathematics. That said, non-Euclidean geometries were also a semi-popular popsci topic at the time. He could have sourced inspiration from something he read in a popsci magazine.
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>>21967 Anekantavada is a form of Jain pilpul. It's based of some true intuitions (the situation of the blind men and the elephant), but then sneaks in an omniscient Jina to say that they can see the whole elephant and have the ultimate truth. Far from being the sort of intellectual ahimsa that it is often put forward as today, it's really a polemical tool used by Jains to attack other philosophies. I guess though prima facie there's no real reason why one couldn't hypothetically have such ultimate knowledge though that would deliver ultimate truth. It would have to be pretty compelling.
>>21978 >All of the properly philosophical and scientific currents in pagan Europe were moves away from the mindless cultic rituals and superstitions of the average person, and it doesn't take much digging to see the truth of this. lies, there is no divide between science/philosophy and beliefs/rituals, they went hand in hand. if anything, the sundering of science from religion has led us into error, particularly the quasi-religion of scientism, in which scientific studies are considered as dogmatic truth, regardless of how flawed their methodology is. >True natural law-based worldviews only developed under the influence of strong monotheistic traditions that didn't crowd out nature with a host of beings controlling a myriad of different natural aspects. It's a false imposition of the way human society works onto nature. The gods of polytheism can't be reached via rational argument, but a deistic God certainly can. you assume that monotheism is incompatible with Paganism, but you're wrong. it's entirely possible that the various gods & goddesses, governing various aspects of reality, are all emanations from an original source. in fact, I believe this is what the Vedas tell us (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't delved into them as much as others here).
>>22015 >there is no divide between science/philosophy and beliefs/rituals, they went hand in hand. The sources disagree with you. All of the evidence, even for pre-Socratic philosophers, indicates that they were all heterodox by the standards of the average person in terms of beliefs regarding rituals and the nature of the gods. Offhand one can mention Heraclitus, Xenophanes, Empedocles, etc. and like more. And then we can point to the thought of educated Roman aristocrats which clearly delineated between what was proper religiō and what was mere superstitiō. What the average person worshiped, and the general belief in anthropomorphic powers acting behind nature, was seen to be pure superstitiō, and indeed was lambasted as the tales of old wives. Consult Cicero's De Natura Deorum. True philosophy is almost always incompatible with the superstitious ooga booga ritualism of the masses. And science is contingent upon true philosophy. True philosophy is not worshiping trees and celestial phenomena. >you assume that monotheism is incompatible with Paganism, but you're wrong. I do not assume that. The essence of the Vedas posit monotheism (though the devas, whatever they are, still exist, but are subordinate immanent beings). >it's entirely possible that the various gods & goddesses, governing various aspects of reality, are all emanations from an original source Possible, but highly unlikely. Occam's razor, and the unified and apparently universal nature of physical laws more convincingly points towards primary governance under a single being (could this Source have subordinates who naturally work within the established and ordained order? Possibly).
I'm confused by /fascist/'s stance on Theocracy. First & foremost, Hitler, /fascist/'s #1 person of interest, was a statesman, partisan, & military leader, but not a priest except being an altar boy, but that's not high in the church hierarchy Yet I understand that Hitler says that "Religion was exploited to serve a purely political policy, and in this case a fatal policy, at least as far as German interests were concerned" & that "By employing religious motives in the service of politics, a spirit was aroused which the instigators of that policy had never thought possible." Hitler himself confuses me. Unless the interpretation is that this is apathetically and carelessly employing religious motives. Because Hitler first says, "The leading idea in the mind of the Archduke was to establish a Slav State, which was to be constructed on a purely Catholic basis" -- which would imply the opposite to me, that it was policy to further a religious bulwark "against Orthodox Russia". Because Hitler's criticism centers around nationalism (which, imo, has the relationship of being more political than religious -- it wasn't whether the wife of the Archduke was Catholic or not, but that the new Habsburger was Czech). I don't think /fascist/ would understand what exactly I'm picking at, unless they themselves have talked with traditionalist Catholics, whose narrative is that it was Nationalism & the French Revolution's nationalism that undermined the Religious supremacy of Catholicism, that it was putting Politics above Religion, Nationality above their Denomination, and secularism that tolerated Protestants and Catholics -- because they would have it that it matters much more whether someone is Catholic than their nationality or race or their political allegiance. If you talk with Habsburg & tradcath apologists today, their blame is squarely on nationalism for undermining the religious supremacy of Catholicism. Secondly, there is admiration for the Showa Era & WW2 Japan. But the fanaticism that /fascist/ admires in Showa Japan isn't the result of a "return to Theocracy", but rather the merging of political & spiritual power. That was the direct result of the (((modern))) Meiji Restoration. State Shinto's mobilization of the public around the Emperor with the imperial cult was only made possible by union of political authority with spiritual authority, by the same degree that Henry VIII was political & spiritual ruler & the Russian Holy Synod by Emperor Peter I. For it wasn't a return to the Middle Ages Two Swords doctrine, that put Pope above as spiritual head above political heads, but rather the union of a political & spiritual leader. The fanaticism nation-wide across Japan would only be accomplished by political mobilization, very important to understand, in relation to State Shinto, and how it differs from the basic view of a Theocracy imho. The Emperor wasn't revered to the same degree prior to the Meiji Restoration, as seen in memes about Japanese shouting Banzai, & that's because there wasn't political and spiritual unity to that same extent that would follow it up. In my opinion, it's more than theocracy -- the fanaticism that was seen to the extent of Showa Japan could only be made possible by the marriage of what traditionalists call "totalitarian" politics with theocratic spiritual aims, simply because without the political there wouldn't be such a public mobilization and nationwide reach. Contrast this sentiment with Codreanu in the last screencap.
>>22039 >All of the evidence, even for pre-Socratic philosophers, indicates that they were all heterodox by the standards of the average person in terms of beliefs regarding rituals and the nature of the gods. Yet the pagan Greeks had significant philosophical output. Maybe the conflict is not between paganism and philosophy, but rather a lowbrow vs highbrow understanding -- for the common people, it's enough to believe in whatever is the popular doctrine, while the philosophers go beyond this to question, elaborate, etc. And another thing: there is a philosophical pagan work in existence, namely the Treatise of Sallustius, which further indicates that it's not an inherent clash. >True philosophy is not worshiping trees and celestial phenomena. What is then, worshiping a famous, revolutionary preacher who lived 2000 years ago? Religious belief does not preclude rational thought and understanding, this is proven by the scholastics, who achieved philosophical thought even under the influence of Abrahamism. >Possible, but highly unlikely. Occam's razor, and the unified and apparently universal nature of physical laws more convincingly points towards primary governance under a single being (could this Source have subordinates who naturally work within the established and ordained order? Possibly). Occam's Razor is a very good principle, but it doesn't apply in every single case. I think a single Deistic being, vs an ultimate source with a kaleidoscope of derived beings, are equally tenable possibilities.
>>21940 Are the works of Carleton Coon any good? I'm guessing they're outdated by now.
>>22059 >Yet the pagan Greeks had significant philosophical output. I readily admit this, needless to say. And that is why I am quite sympathetic to your reformulation of the true divide as being between the highbrow and lowbrow / elite and plebeian conceptions of spirituality, the highbrow of course being informed by actual scientific and philosophical speculation, while that of the plebeians remained forever stuck in the realm of primitive magical practices, amulets, and similar things. Today these practices are mainly confined to more primitive non-White nations - Africa, large parts of the Middle East, India, South America, the Caribbean, etc. > And another thing: there is a philosophical pagan work in existence, namely the Treatise of Sallustius, which further indicates that it's not an inherent clash. Yes. It's also worth noting of course that Sallustius was a Neoplatonist, and thus posited the One as the first principle of the rest of reality, seeing the goal of life as ultimately the return to the One (very similar to many Vedic figures, needless to say). When we put him side-by-side with Julian, who was of course very close to Sallustius, we will see that he had similar views regarding a divine hierarchy, which is characteristic of developed European philosophical and spiritual speculation (and its root which is in experience). My main polemic here is against those who exclusively attack the notion of the One totally in favor of the cosmic gods (which likely do exist in some form). Spiritual beings exist within the universe undoubtedly, but I do not think that any of them are really the key to scientific and philosophical understanding. Maybe one can benefit from them occasionally, but in common with what the Buddhists and Vedic teachers have concluded, along with the developed varieties of European spiritual thought, to think that the cosmic gods are somehow pinnacles of reality is to make an error - which is not to say that these beings are evil or not far more highly spiritual advanced than most humans. >I think a single Deistic being, vs an ultimate source with a kaleidoscope of derived beings, are equally tenable possibilities. Agreed.
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>>22055 The difference between the Catholic case and the Japanese case is that we are dealing with two different kinds of religions here. Shinto is a purely Völkisch religion, one that, prior to the Meiji Restoration, was indeed so interwoven with Japanese day-to-day life, rituals, activities, and holidays, that the term Shinto was not even known to the average Japanese person. In fact, I have read that the term 'religion' in a generic sense was completely unknown to the Japanese prior to this period as well and with more frequent contact with the Western religions and their concepts. So the Japanese only got the term 宗教 (shuukyou) in the 19th century, at least in common parlance. Shinto only really began to assert itself as something separate from Buddhism in the century or so preceding the Meiji Restoration as well, most especially in the Tokugawa Era Kokugaku / National Studies movement, which stressed the fact that Shinto was the true way of the gods and that Buddhism was a foreign intrusion into the Japanese kokutai / national entity. So Shinto was at once a true 'way' of the Japanese people, a racial religion in the truest sense of the term, and indeed already before the Meiji Restoration increasingly associated with nationalistic Japanese politics. Kokugaku scholars of the Tokugawa Era were already advocating for the direct rule of the Emperor over Japan. This wish would not be fulfilled until the Meiji Era and would last up through the Shouwa Era, of course. And your analysis is correct, I think. State Shinto was a 'return', nor was it a total break with the past. Though the seeds of State Shinto were of course already readily available within the Japanese context, the development of Japan spiritually and culturally following the Meiji Restoration was indeed in many respects a transformation as well. Shinto naturally developed and grew in a highly fascistic direction. The totalitarian and theocratic elements are certainly inseparable in the development of State Shinto. A good book on this is Skya's 'Japan's Holy War'. So while Catholicism was deflated by nationalism, in Japan Shinto was only energized and radicalized to a new degree.
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Especially in light of the whole Sutter thing. Are they just a bunch of degenerate retards and one of them got turned snitch or was it always an op?
>>22146 >QTDDTOT Go back to 4chaim.
I personally think of them as faggot retards just because of their connection to atomwaffen and child prostitution. And obv because they're satanists
>>22149 Haven't used boomerchan in years. Feel like there's enough to O9A for it to warrant its own thread. It's one of the longest running, weirdest and most convoluted ops in history if it's an op and it completely disrupted multiple orgs.
>>22151 Warrant discussion perhaps. That dosen't mean you get to shit up the board with this low effort OP.
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>kike on upside down stick is based, goys
>>22146 All of these degenerate groups are connected—Atomwaffen, O9A, Tempel of Blood, and they’re all fed honeypots in the truest sense of the term. The whole Sutter thing was so obvious that it should have surprised absolutely no one. David Myatt over in the UK is a perfect example of another likely fed given how he has bounced around between White Nationalism and Islam over the years. All of these organizations shilling for Satanism, degeneracy, depravity and similar things need to be rejected vehemently or the Jews will continue to use the media to convince normalfags that pro-White politics involves worshiping Satan and being a pedophile
>>22155 >worrying about what a jew says According to jews, being National Socialist is doubleplus ungood already, same with caring about Whites. Fuck optics.
>>22129 I have no objection to the One, and I think Deism is a rational position. I also think that the parallel you drew between devas/asuras and pagan deities is quite valid -- spiritual entities are to be taken seriously, and may or may not be of assistance to us mortals, but they should not be worshiped as the One, which is indeed an error. I'm glad we could come to an understanding. and well met, anon -- it's not every day I come across someone who can present a challenge.
>>22186 I guess we should just embrace Satanism and be pedophiles then!
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You claim that "hate" is evil, but does not a black hate the KKK? Does not a Jew hate "antisemites"? Does not a government hate "terrorists"? When we ask ourselves what "Hate" really means, we realize that this word is only a shock collar to prevent the self-preservation of White Christian Europe. It is just as much a sin to love what is evil, than to hate what is good. Hatred is the highest form of love, because who doesn't protect what they hold dear? I have 3 unregistered firearms.
>>22205 >I have 3 unregistered firearms. >3 Childs play.
>>22191 If going below the AOC means higher White birthrates then I don't give a damn. The ends justify the means.
>>22015 >in which scientific studies are considered as dogmatic truth, regardless of how flawed their methodology is. So in other words, they became more religious (based on faith) and less scientific. >it's entirely possible that the various gods & goddesses, governing various aspects of reality, are all emanations from an original source That's a rather reductionist approach which turns them into mere instruments of the same machine. There is no reason why everything should emanate from a single source, in fact, something closest to the laws of existence that we have access to proves the contrary. Yes, many "gods" can emanate from the same source, just as many people can share a singular consciousness (like insects and Jews do), but that does not exclude the existence of multiple poles of emanation/causation, especially not at the ultimate level. Monotheism is the midwit cosmology/eschatology, again we have the bell curve where the sky worshiping grugs and high tier metaphysicians/esotericists are on the same page, while midwit golems believe in falsehoods such as "the supreme being" and live under the illusion that it makes them smarter and wiser than the rest. Monotheists were the original soys. >>22039 >The essence of the Vedas posit monotheism The essence of Judaism does >and the unified and apparently universal nature of physical laws more convincingly points towards primary governance under a single being Those laws could function the same without any such being. You are trying to use the atomist approach to defend the existence of the supreme kike without realizing that within such philosophical framework, it's entirely redundant, excessive and fails the Occam's razor, as well as the law of sufficient reason. Might as well be a deterministic atheist then. By the way, if you have ever actually read the work of any of the philosophers which you desperately try to mention or quote for the sake of appearances, or if their philosophy was of any worth, you would be able to make an actual counter-argument for once. >>22129 Anyone who supports the notion of (((One))) is not a real pagan/polytheist but a crypto-monotheist disguising as one, and a philosemite emperor is hardly a good example either. Many forms of "paganism" were (and are) as kiked as Christianity/Abrahamism is (if not even more in some instances). They are trying to sell kosher "paganism" as an alternative. There is only one true paganism, the fundamental polytheism based on the notion of Zero/Many. And it's as antithetical to Judaism as it gets, that's why you will hardly encounter it anywhere. >My main polemic here is against those who exclusively attack the notion of the One totally in favor of the cosmic gods Because ultimately, everything revolves around that issue. The sooner you understand that, the better.
>>22190 >I'm glad we could come to an understanding. and well met, anon Definitely, anon. It is comfy discussions like this is why I enjoy /fascist/
>>22214 >The essence of Judaism does And? You do know that the Vedas and Zoroastrianism (which is monotheistic, fundamentally, as anyone who has deeply studied the Gathas and the Yashts, etc. will know) predate Ancient Judaism by millennia, don't you? Judaism is unique in its monotheism, in that it posits the idea of a 'jealous' God which does not tolerate the worship of other deities or of idols, or images. Ancient Aryan mysticism has always included the idea of a fundamental One, and along with this has had the worship or interaction with spiritual beings that exists within the cosmos. The use of statues and images and worship is common to Aryan religions as well. The sort of divine jealousy of Judaism, however, is not a feature of ancient Aryan religions, as we can read in the Bhagavad Gita, where it says that no matter what one worships, it is ultimately to Krishna alone that one is devoting themselves to, even in ignorance, and due to various considerations and understandings about reality, this is indeed true. >Those laws could function the same without any such being. You are in no position to know that. The existence of an intelligible, harmonious and law-based universe that seems to function under the same laws no matter where one looks or goes is a great indication that there is a higher power at work behind nature. This is inexplicable given an atheistic worldview which just happens to be intelligible, law-driven and uniform for millions of light-years in every direction. Prior to having their brains lobotomized by scientific naturalism, one would naturally draw this conclusion, and there even exist numerous works by scientists and psychologists who admit that human beings are inherently disposed to draw such inferences from aspects of our lives and the world around us. And I do not even raise the question of the religious experiences had by mystics and sages throughout history, which provide one not with just discursive arguments to the existence of God, but also the direct immediate knowledge of said being. >it's entirely redundant, excessive and fails the Occam's razor You think the existence of God is akin to the conclusion of some sort of syllogism, which is a bugman way of approaching the question. Such arguments are post-hoc, and are not the reason why people believe in a Creator or Supreme Being in the first place. >Anyone who supports the notion of (((One))) is not a real pagan/polytheist but a crypto-monotheist disguising as one I don't care, I'm after truth, not your gay little labels of true pagan™. You have an entirely reactive position which is based off political concerns, rather than questing for the truth and discovering what the truth is and acting accordingly. The One is totally arguable for through sheer philosophy as well, as is demonstrated quite adequately in Edward Feser's rendition of the Neoplatonic proof in his book 'Five Proofs of the Existence of God', which is of course religiously neutral in that the conclusions of said arguments have nothing to do with Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or any other tradition. And to repeat myself again, this is not even to talk of the experiential side of the equation, which adds even more evidence alongside the rational proofs.
>>22212 And how does smoking meth, having gay orgies and jacking off to novels about toddler rape help White birthrates?
>>22231 They don't?? Where did I say anything like that?
>>22246 When you responded to this post >>22191, you were responding to a post against groups such as Atomwaffen, O9A and Tempel ov Blood, all of which are well-known for being full of pedophiles, Satanists and edgelords. Your response makes it seems like you do not care if these people write toddler rape stories and about the glorification of pedophilia. It has nothing to do with the general 'I think the AOC should be two or three years earlier' that some people post here.
>>22247 That's not me at all. Pay attention to the ID's.
>>22258 >Pay attention to the ID's. He was responding to just YOUR ID Pay attention to the thread >>22146 QRD o9a? >>22150 connection to atomwaffen and child prostitution >>22155 degenerate, convince normalfags that pro-White politics involves worshiping Satan and being a pedophile >>22186 Fuck optics. >>22191 (sarcasm) I guess we should just embrace Satanism and be pedophiles then! At that point you pipe up, hurr durr Save the White race. Implying you support fucking children. kys ped
>>22258 Low IQ confirmed
>>22218 >Monotheistic Zoroastrianism Something that the Iranians should be thankful to for being shitskins and not White today. It did produce splendid shabbos goyim like Cyrus "the great" though, I guess that's why you shill it so much in here. >Judaism is unique in its monotheism, in that it posits the idea of a 'jealous' God which does not tolerate the worship of other deities Your "supreme being" is no different and by refusing to acknowledge the (logically necessary) existence of other sources/poles of causation you are acting the same. >Ancient Aryan mysticism has always included the idea of a fundamental One Unfortunately, many Whites got deceived by various Judeo-synarchic cults over the course of history, the subversion being much older than Abrahamistic religions or Christianity in particular. Judaic thought and "philosophy" predates Judaism by millenia and can be traced to the Brahmin castes of India (and their abominable interpretation of proto-Vedic sources). Various forms of Judaism are just its more recent expression. In spite of that, there are not sufficient sources showing the beliefs such as fundamental One being prevalent among Whites/Aryans, at least nor originally or organically. Those ideas are a cultural import, and a result of what modernists call "progress". >it is ultimately to Krishna alone that one is devoting themselves to Seems like a rather parasitic deity >great indication that there is a higher power at work behind nature Lack of understanding of forces at play. While shaping of nature is indeed possible, and to a great degree, your cosmic kike does not hold the patent for natural laws (that's talmudry). If you truly understood the cyclical time, you would realize that you are actually making an argument in favor of transhumanism. >which is a bugman way of approaching the question Bugman philosophies have bugman logical conclusions. Adding "God" does not change that. You need a better philosophy instead. >I'm after truth You are too weak to know the truth. That's why you cling to ideas that give you the least existential dread. >which is based off political concerns The other way around actually. I know very well what I want from existence, and how it can be obtained most effectively. Do you? >The One is totally arguable for through sheer philosophy as well I've been dealing with people much 'higher up' in the hierarchy in the past and they failed to deliver, but you are welcome to try. And I'm not even trying to argue (in a non-constructive way at least), if you think you have a case supporting those notions, make a thread about it and I'll gladly participate.
Hey boys. Been almost a year now since I first found this place (about 10 months in fact) and I have to say, this one year has felt like ten. I've learned a lot, suffered a lot, and I believe finally read to carry on into a better future as a man and I have to thank all of you for it because if it wasn't for you answering my ignorant questions and putting up with my shit I would have likely stayed an ignorant twit. I've recently started trying to learn more about Germanic paganism and believe I'm finally coming into my own spiritually. It's a good feeling and one I, again, have to thank all of you for. I hope you've all had a good one thus far, as difficult as the past year has been, and hope to see you all in the future. Failing that, perhaps we'll meet in the halls. To the future, my friends!
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>>22338 Sieg heil, freund
>>22339 Sieg Heil. Here's to a better future that our children may inherit.
>>22304 Notice how this shill has continued for months to insinuate in almost every thread that Aryan spiritual hierarchies were akshually Jewish. I can tell that you are a good little church-going Protestant evangelical.
>>22338 Meditate sequentially week by week, on the Elder Futhark, staying with those that give you trouble until you master them, they will unironically be a better guide to finding Othinn and our other gods than any existing literature, whatsoever.
>>22372 I noticed that nonsense, although I didn't bother engaging at the time. just because Abrahamic religions have clergy, doesn't necessarily mean clergy are inherently Abrahamic.
>>22429 >doesn't necessarily mean clergy are inherently Abrahamic. I agree. The jewish religion is a Frankenstein abomination of practices from different Aryan religions and modes of thought, like Egyptian polytheism and Platonism, as a consequence of the jewish nature. Just because some aspect of an ancient religion is found in judaism does not mean it is jewish. Hierarchy is inherent to the Aryan understanding of the world, where each man needs something above and below him. A clergy would be the natural conclusion of this, because it would follow this rule. The people who said that the clergy is jewish have their reason as the aryan spirituality is directed inward, and is the journey of the individual. Again, this is not consistent with the Aryan world view. In an Aryan society, a man is meant to be an individual in the whole, so the Aryan spirituality would also follow this pattern. Rites and rituals are meant to be experienced communally as to strengthen the community, while an inward experience of spirituality is also experienced in each individual during it. The inward vs. outward spirituality argument is yet another false dichotomy, since both can be experienced at the same time.
>>22372 >church-going Protestant Your bot got broken >>22429 You didn't engage because it's above your pay grade (and IQ). >>22372 >A clergy would be the natural conclusion of this You will never be a rabbi of /fascist/ . People can have rites without some kike defining it for them, organizing it for them, centralizing them, and legalistically formalizing them. Clergy were parasites for the most part. >Just because some aspect of an ancient religion is found in judaism does not mean it is jewish. Judaism is the logical conclusion of the aspects that you keep promoting here. No such aspects = no Judaism.
>>22445 >People can have rites without some kike defining it for them, organizing it for them, Except they do. If you understood human psychology, you would know a group of people don’t just simultaneously decide to do something. A leader steps forward and helps figure out how it will go. From there, he becomes a sort of clergy or shaman. If you mean that we don’t need a globalized, bureaucratic congregation of priests to tell local communities how to worship, I agree, but these small communities need a spiritual leader in some capacity. But, even then, if a large Aryan state is to be created, it would need a little bit of bureaucracy. > Judaism is the logical conclusion of the aspects that you keep promoting here. No such aspects = no Judaism. What are you talking about?
>>22445 >People can have rites without some kike defining it for them, organizing it for them, centralizing them, and legalistically formalizing them. Your Sabbatean-Frankist antinomianism has no place on /fascist/ or any other place dedicated to the discussion of Aryan spirituality. Truth exists. There are right and wrong ways of doing things. This necessitates hierarchy and orthodoxy. This is true in the political and spiritual fields alike. Screaming about 'rabbis' isn't an argument. We're talking about Druids and Brahmanas
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>>22447 >you would know a group of people don’t just simultaneously decide to do something More advanced people do. Leadership, organization, and hierarchy are of course needed, and natural, but clergy has no place within it. >>22448 >Not having a bunch of parasites ruling the society based on pure pilpul and deception is Sabbateanism Why yeeesss, retarded cults like Hare Krishnas and Jehovah's witnesses were always tantamount to European social order. So were the Noahide Laws that you keep trying to sell here under the guise of le Aryan spirituality. >Truth exists Yes it does. And you repeating your lies for 1000 times won't make your Judeosynarchic lies any closer to that. >Screaming about 'rabbis' isn't an argument. You keep ignoring any of the actual arguments, do you really think something like that would work in any sort of organic environment? >We're talking about Druids Original ones or the (((Gauls))) and their Brythonic contemporaries that were often in conflict with Celtic princes? >Brahmanas Proto-rabbis like Abraham
>>22460 >Leadership, organization, and hierarchy are of course needed, and natural, but clergy has no place within it. <Leadership, organization, and hierarchy are of course needed, and natural, but leadership, organization, and hierarchy have no place within it. Lol
>>22460 >More advanced people do. Leadership, organization, and hierarchy are of course needed, and natural, but clergy has no place within it. You are just contradicting yourself now. Some sort of organization is necessary.
>>22460 >pic related kek. doesn't mean that poos are any better. They're scum in a different way.
>>22430 >I agree. The jewish religion is a Frankenstein abomination of practices from different Aryan religions and modes of thought, like Egyptian polytheism and Platonism, as a consequence of the jewish nature. Just because some aspect of an ancient religion is found in judaism does not mean it is jewish. Indeed. The Old Testament plagiarizes Aryan traditions/texts, reworking them into a chimera, as you said. In one of my older posts, I mentioned the good qualities of the OT, but that's really just a pale reflection of the original source material it rips off. It all makes sense that way, and there are blue-pilled scholars who admit that it's a pastiche of influences from the ancient world. >In an Aryan society, a man is meant to be an individual in the whole, so the Aryan spirituality would also follow this pattern. Rites and rituals are meant to be experienced communally as to strengthen the community, while an inward experience of spirituality is also experienced in each individual during it. Also true, and we see this pattern in Pagan traditions, which require a healthy Volk. For example, Japanese Shinto displays harmony between the individual spiritual experience and public expression through festivals. As for Western paganism, the collapse of Western Rome created a vacuum of power, which was filled by the Abrahamic virus, sundering us from traditional ways. >You didn't engage because it's above your pay grade (and IQ). you mistyped here, I think you meant 'below'. >You will never be a rabbi of /fascist/ . People can have rites without some kike defining it for them, organizing it for them, centralizing them, and legalistically formalizing them. Clergy were parasites for the most part. as others have said, you're hilariously wrong. an Aryan society needs specialists in various fields, including religion.
Spiritual authority of some variety is literally inescapable, as it is in any other domain in life. If one wants to know something, where do you go? To someone with experience and knowledge. Even if one does not entirely agree with everything that a person says, it is clear that there is benefit derived from interacting and inquiring to a person with years of belief and experience. Everyone does this for every topic under the sun. I put the most stress on experience too, because experience is always the most important factor in true knowledge of something, because mere intellectual dabbling is always a disconnected and incomplete path. In Japan traditionally there existed kannushi who attended to the traditional rites and rituals of Shinto along with fulfilling various other spiritual and religious tasks. Many traditional cultures have shamans who are skilled in interacting with the spiritual realm and its denizens. The Druids of the Celts were highly respected for their judgements, wisdom, philosophic abilities and assistance in defusing quarrels among the people. All of these are cases of clear spiritual authority. Also, crucially, none of these per se depend on some sort of super organized top-down bureaucracy. There is informal hierarchy in most of the cases, but even semi-formalized hierarchy is not bad if these people are legitimately wise and knowledgeable, which should not be a controversial proposition on a board about fascism and organic nationalism.
How to beat depression. I feel that there is not enough purpose in life
>>22570 Have you tried fucking bitches or going 120 MPH+ in a Supra?
>>22591 Like the tenth time I've seen you here shilling this >>20929 Do you think the answer is going to be different this time?
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>>22591 >ancient-forums open random thread >Negronomicon open another thread >faggots blogpost Ton of other namefags with trannime pfp
>>22555 >organic nationalism The way people use the term "organic" is as phony as corporations who label their product "organic". >Also, crucially, none of these per se depend on some sort of super organized top-down bureaucracy Does Fascism not critically acknowledge the Party organization & leadership organizing the Nation? While you berate anon for criticizing "spiritual hierarchy", you basically criticize political hierarchy no less with "top-down" and "bureaucracy", if the Fascist outlook on politics is Party-based. What /fascist/ cannot make its mind around is whether it's with the "All within the State, nothing outside the State" view, or with the side of the traditionalists who babble incessantly against this and want to return to ecclesiastical supremacy as opposed to the supremacy of the Nation, alongside the Anarchists, whose only complimentary feature is calling it an artificial State vs "organic", but this doesn't sideline the reality that political supremacy is literally an inescapable domain of life either. The Fascist symbol itself stresses the importance of Political authority, the unity of the Nation, tied together, stressing that political organization pertains to everyone involved, no less the clergy, than the people who sit in the church pews, no less the church, and all the other buildings in the City, no less the clergy, than the other worthy professions who build and consist of the City, that being the Polis, the Political, that which has the relationship of all the people who compose the State, should be united. That's why I cannot abide with the clerical view, that would deem the clergy matters more to the City, than all those who defend and constitute it. That the clergy is no less raised politically and sustained than the men who attend their services. So political supremacy calls for the unity of the entire City itself, no less the Nation. The clergy could be very well humbled before the interests of all.
>>22597 In my honest opinion, the only reason /fascist/ is enamored with the supremacy of priests is simply a knee-jerk reaction to globohomo & that in certain third world countries faggots get stoned to death or thrown off rooftops. I know, for many people, the state of nature argument doesn't work: but for many, who would they group with in a post-apoc scenario: a clergyman is not often on their list, but maybe like a soldiers, a physician, and farmer. Still, revealing to me... But for practical purposes, say, what profession and class is depicted on NSDAP posters? It looks self-evident to me: regular people, partisans, prominently soldiers, fathers & mothers as they ought to be, industrial workers... The natural order pertains to political authority no less than spiritual -- it is a delusion to say that there isn't a political hierarchy, and that heaven doesn't mirror it -- in the same sense that a father remains a political authority over his children. It's no matter of temporal vs eternal laws, neither does that negate the need for human laws and human organization, no matter how superior the laws of Nature be, because Nature intends that a Father rule over his Children, and that the Political encompass all those together. I think esoterics have taken Fascism's view of anti-materialism as a badge of supremacy to run amok, but disregard that this doesn't necessarily mean a return to ecclesiastical supremacy and dismiss the nature of the State and political authority as it pertains to all.
>>22597 >The way people use the term "organic" is as phony as corporations who label their product "organic". The idea of the organic state is precisely the idea of "All within the State, nothing outside the State" that you point to. It doesn't have anything to do with the corporate use of the term 'organic', it is a term which is used to make an analogy between the structure of biological organisms, which themselves are a complex and hierarchical arrangement of parts which function as a holistic unity, and the nation-state, which is at its most powerful and healthiest when it is arranged and organized in harmony with these same natural principles. I do not necessarily oppose a formal body of spiritual experts, but I am merely pointing out a fact to that other anon, who seems to think that people who support any sort of spiritual authority necessarily want to give a class of Catholic priests or rabbis absolute authority over all matters. This is not so, of course. Even in the ancient Aryan social structure, the clerical powers are not supreme in day-to-day activities. The temporal administration of the state naturally falls into the hands of the Kshatriyas, who are warriors, administrators, kings and government officials. In true Aryan societies, the spiritual experts have actually a very circumscribed set of duties and roles that they are permitted to work within. The work of the government should of course be informed by spiritual principles, but there are a variety of goals that need to be fulfilled according to ancient Aryan Lebensphilosophie, such as economic prosperity, sensual enjoyment (within the prescribed limits), etc. These are the Puruṣārthas. Keeping around priests is only good for knowledge in texts, rituals, consultation, blessings, marriages, moral instruction and other things. By no means should there not be a political class associated with keeping law and order, keeping the economy running, building projects and infrastructure, etc. From a strictly pragmatic perspective we know that the latter would have more influence and power and influence in the day-to-day life of the nation. The goal of course is to harmonize all of these disparate elements into a single unitary organic state, though.
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What do you guys think about the Eurasia Party and Dugin in general?
>>22602 >The goal of course is to harmonize all of these disparate elements into a single unitary organic state, though That's my thought exactly. But it doesn't matter whether it is called organic or not, but what's at hand: the harmony and unity of them all. That is the basis of politics for me. It's not exclusive from the priests that there be political order, but that they shouldn't rival the politics with their interests only. I do think that political supremacy, however, is the intent of Nature and that there should be well ordered states / peoples. My opinion is that economic prosperity does tie into political prosperity -- however -- economic derived from the term "househould management" -- a well ordered state resembles a well ordered household, both are no less political in their intent, that father governs children, that people are politically arranged and govern for the well being of all. But I don't view the State as temporal only -- the State has a perpetual nature and has the radiance of the infinite majesty, it is Nature's call, that men are politically arranged. Wolves are not divided by their temporal and spiritual needs, but simply put the organization of their pack. So the political pertains to each interest, temporal and eternal -- it is in the interest of a healthy State, that eternal laws are observed, that what pertains to each person and what they share in common, and their human laws, also fall in line.
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>>22605 It's a subversive influence in pro-White circles. If you want the full rundown, check these articles out: https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/04/08/aleksandr-dugin-part-1/ https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/alt-right-duginism/
>>22605 I don't know anything about them. What are they?
>>22602 Also, keep in mind, that I say that priests are no less part of the City than other professions -- it is in the interest of the State, how people are instructed, the media takes that role today, in informing the conduct and behavior of citizens. So the spiritual aims, that govern the mold and formation of people and how they ought to act, pertain to the interests of the State. It's no secret, that those in the spiritual profession are also politically motivated, and that what pertains to the State will inevitably pertain to influencing them and moving them to instruct for interests of the State -- because that's what the State, by its design, functions to do. The State's infinite majesty mirrors the boundless Heavens. It is for the interests of all, priests included and not priests only. The State's unity and harmony depend on its infinite majesty -- that's why I contend the notion that affairs that are political only contend to temporal matters -- the State in these terms sets to mold everyone. It does encompass both temporal and spiritual concerns, because it is all encompassing. People cannot be divided. There cannot be two infinities. So temporal vs spiritual cannot create this diarchy. If not, then it's no better than the problem with the Catholics, I would contend, except with pagan clothes... borrowing all their flaws, that's where I would agree with the other anon, because unlike traditionalists, I would say that there were problems that inevitably lead to our present predicament, and for me what was central to this was being opposed to the political, as explained >>22055 here, and not having this unity, but toppling it in favor of one or the other, and pushing people towards secularism, because the view of the Church polarized people to go that length to achieve that harmony and unity. There must be the political supremacy that folds over both, and unites them by harmony, for commonweal.
How should I sum up the meaning of my message? T;DR: Opposing temporal and spiritual interests to the interests of the political, that encompasses all, is like this: Men must have political supremacy in order to achieve social Harmony & Unity, do we agree or disagree? The City has the relationship of the Whole to the Part, the General to the Particular. All buildings and communities, their classes and hierarchies, work harmonically for the interest of all, spiritual and temporal. It is the interest of the State that people are molded for their roles, hence the spiritual authority, but the temporal to adjust to the ever-changing circumstances that face the City. The problem with clericals (because I don't think everything pre-modern was perfect) is they would take one community from the City, the spiritual community, and set them in opposition to the interests of the City itself. As if you were to take the arm from the whole body, and say that not only is the arm equal to the whole body, but also that the arm is superior to the whole body. Or create two infinities, two Cities, and demand people choose. The reasoning for their superiority is akin is spiritual over temporal sword, however, this clearly hits the wall in relation to the City. This menality, although it likens well to the reasoning of the State's infinite majesty, only serves to rival these powers to the detriment of the common good that benefits everyone. The early Christians well understood that they would be persecuted: because political supremacy is guaranteed. They understood, that they were going against social norms and the interests of the State, in not acknowledging idols and other social interests -- like anons have mentioned, this was in the interest of the State that for civil peace and conformity, and spiritual / religion was no way separate from the common weal.
>>22605 >Eurasia I've been on Asia on some occasions and the word "Eurasia" gets used in that continent. It means Euro-asian. Especially in areas like Singapore where it's all peaceful and shit (and surprisingly multicultural at the same time).
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I have one last query for /fascist/. I know, when talk about political supremacy, and how it is a fact of life, that some might be rolling their eyes: they imagine politicians today, and Dr. Fauci, and the COVID Crisis. Or the Christian conversion of Rome, and the Roman Emperors converting to Christianity. But does /fascist/ contest the nature of the supremacy itself, or is /fascist/ upset how tables have turned? I think it's that the tables are turned. That they are the ones being persecuted and suppressed. That's what the traditionalists are more upset about: that they are not the state. "The struggle between the two worlds can permit no compromises. The new cycle which begins with the ninth year of the Fascist regime places the alternative in even greater relief -- either we or they, either their ideas or ours, either our State or theirs!" -Benito Mussolini
Hey did anyone manage to catch American Futurist's Library? Seems like the page 404'd on their site.
Works fine for me, it's .net not .xyz https://archive.fo/7e6PD
>>22468 >You are just contradicting yourself now You are implying that all forms of organization are the same. Clergy has no merits to warrant any leadership roles in the State, and it's counter-productive for genuine spiritual development as well. Genuine mystics, occultists and sages have always had much greater informal influence anyway, but they had to actually demonstrate their power level compared to religious authority based on canonized pilpul, sophistry and crypto-materialist Machiavellianism that are characteristic for the Jesuit, Rabbinical, Brahmin and similar subversive and parasitical priesthoods of the Judaic type, or various cults serving their interests. >>22535 >you mistyped here, I think you meant 'below'. You are unable to address any of the central points or discuss anything that's beyond the scope of your instructions. You are doing a pretty bad job even when it comes to shilling, in a controlled environment nonetheless. Don't take it too hard though, even people much smarter than you wouldn't be able to counter my arguments, just as they couldn't prove 2+2 to be 5. Because it's not me who has invented them, nor was it the much smarter people than me who have proven them, it is simply the truth. I have merely cast it into a dagger to perforate the "all seeing eye" of your "supreme being", with the absolutely murderous intent. The effects of which, while far from immediate, will have the most drastic long term, cosmic-scale consequences. You see, once certain truths are revealed into what your kind perceives as the "all-mind", and once certain connections are made manifest, they can no longer be unmade, at least not within a great cycle. No amount of censorship, persecution, repetition of lies, pilpul etc. is going to change that. You were too late. Enjoy your illusion while it lasts. >>22597 Fascism is a fundamentally different political philosophy compared to Theocracy. It's closer to the idea of enlightened self-interest (just from the naturally/metaphysically emerging (organic) instead of nihilist perspective) where the individual and the State create a mutual feedback loop leading to a greater sum benefit (physical as well as spiritual) compared to what any individual could achieve alone. As Hitler said in one of his speeches, Germans, help each other. Ideally, a perfect State would be made of perfected individuals completely freed from any Judaic influences or any flaws at which such a virus could latch onto. The interests of any truly Fascist state would be opposite to the interests of a Theocracy, which relies on the weak, the stupid, the submissive and the subhuman for maintaining it's power. Theocracy is parasitic.
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>>22636 It's all about the survival of the fittest and the struggle for power. Jews put their boot on the necks of White people when they are in power and attempt to transform society for their interests like some sort of destructive parasite, and if we were in power, Jews would go straight to the concentration camps and society would be rebuilt in the interests of our people. Might is right. This is purely a descriptive truth, but it is an eternal truth. True freedom is ruling over those below you and trampling all over them. When one is not doing this themselves, they are being trampled on, either by individual enemies, or more typically, by other racial groups. Jews have been using their power for decades to condition Aryans into a state of weakness. It's conditioning us for death. They've blunted our instincts. Now we flood our countries with subhumans and kill ourselves off due to the Jewish memeplexes that have been installed in our minds through religion, media, entertainment and public schooling.
>>22639 Thanks anon!
>>22644 Even so anon, I will personally dispatch more of them than they ever thought possible before I go.

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