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The Co-option of Fascism by ZOG Blackshirt 05/09/2022 (Mon) 19:41:34 ID:484c43 No. 28170
The war in Ukraine has revealed something interesting - everything can be co-opted by ZOG. It doesn't matter what your professed ideology is, or what symbols you use, all of them are potential pro-Jewish symbols, pro-Jewish ideas, and pro-Jewish motives. This has been exposed so blatantly in the last few months that it is really amazing that no one has touched on this more. The Azov Battalion openly uses NatSoc symbolism such as the Swastika and the Black Sun. But these have actually become NATO symbols. Symbols of the renewed 'Second Israel' of Ukraine, Khazaria 2.0. The Jew has no ideology. It merely wears masks. There is nothing that the Jew cannot assimilate. What this really makes me think of is how many ideas are allegedly pro-White people pushing online that are actually mere shabbos goyim in the service of Israeli / NATO psyops? The number may be far greater than one would imagine. Be careful before dismissing this out of hand. Looking back, this raises so many questions about past movements and their real goals that it is truly mind-boggling.
>Russians are nazis! No ukrainians are nazis! >Russians are jews! No ukrainians are jews! See how this goes?
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There are simple vectors to measure this. a) Does it benefit or harm the ideology/race b) Does it work in favor or against Jewish interests As for Azog, they always make a parody of their former enemies.
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>>28173 It's another Jew-controlled dichotomy. Think of the Hegelian dialect. The modern dialectic post-1945 is based on idea of pro-Nazi versus anti-Nazi, and Jews control both of them, ultimately. Even recently, Lavrov said that Hitler was a Jew. This is pretty remarkable.
With the exception of National-Socialism all political ideas are kiked in one way or another. >Be careful before dismissing this out of hand. Looking back, this raises so many questions about past movements and their real goals that it is truly mind-boggling. Italian (((fascism))) is a prime example of this age old Psyop, i find it funny how "WN" praise that mednigger mussolini despite >mussolini's (((marxist))) origins >Mussolini's kike misstress >Kikes infesting the fascist party >Kikes infesting the italian government
>>28179 >With the exception of National-Socialism When one is covered in shit, they have often become used to the smell and don't realize how bad they reek. There are some very suspicious things surrounding aspects of National Socialism in both the time of the Third Reich and the post-war period. Any time one ties themselves to an ideology, they become subject to elite manipulations and psyops. They make you become sympathetic to symbols, patterns and figures, and totally control you thereafter.
>>28181 >very suspicious things surrounding aspects of National Socialism in both the time of the Third Reich and the post-war period. Any time one ties themselves to an ideology, they become subject to elite manipulations and psyops. National Socialism isn't really an "ism". You cannot compare it to the faux civic nationalism of Mussolini, or jewish bolshevik Marxism, or christianity or buddhism. It is attaching one's self to the inevitable realities of the eternal laws of nature. Only those who have wavered have been subject to "elite manipulations and psyops", as if anybody who is "elite" would resort to manipulations anyway.
>>28179 >With the exception of National-Socialism all political ideas are kiked in one way or another Fascism? >Italian (((fascism))) is a prime example of this age old Psyop, i find it funny how "WN" praise that mednigger mussolini despite You're the only kike. A d&c Jew in particular. >mussolini's (((marxist))) origins Many National Socialists were formerly Marxist such as Gobbles. When Hitler first started the Germans' Workers Party many of his comrades were former Marxists. You're purity spiraling. >Mussolini's kike misstress What evidence is there that she is a Jew? Is everyone a Jew to you? Even if she were one, she had no influence on Mussolini mind and didn't do anything other than support him. Hell she even died along side him, but that's not enough for the fake fascists spergs. >Kikes infesting the fascist party >Kikes infesting the italian government Hitler had and encouraged Jews to join his party in assist in his battle against international Jewry. While they couldn't not become high-ranking officers or uphold much of political power, they were still allow to opinion a voice and ideas within the official affairs.
>>28190 I just realized you are talking about Margherita Sarfatti. Although it's not like it matters, because she was of importance within Mussolini's party.
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Remember that kike who made that "fascism is better for preserving the race than national socialism, because oy gevalt Germans fought until the last man instead of giving up" thread? Who would like to bet that he is now shilling against fascism in this thread?
>>28174 >As for Azog, they always make a parody of their former enemies. That's what it is. I think it's also designed to lead potential fascists into a deathtrap. National Socialism is about race and nationhood, and NATO is trying to destroy both; thus, they're totally contradictory, so it's safe to assume that AZOV are larpers and shills, trying to undermine our cause.
>Looking back, this raises so many questions about past movements and their real goals that it is truly mind-boggling. this
>>28170 Congratulations on learning about controlled opposition, OP. Took you long enough
>>28181 I'm curious as to what you mean by this, do you have any examples?
>>28199 >it's also designed to lead potential fascists into a deathtrap Yes, getting rid of any people who would be willing and capable to oppose them. They create a pseudo-environment where they get some kosher alternative to die for instead.
>>28208 National Socialism is highly rooted in occultism and more specifically Luciferianism. Otto Rahn Miguel Serrano Order of the Nine Angles A. Wyatt Mann Atomwaffen Joy of Satan There are even many links among these to more established NatSoc groups. It's quite pervasive online as well. Quite eyebrow-raising.
>>28214 >Kike throws another consensus-cracking pilpul Quite eyebrow-raising indeed
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>>28179 >literally invented and implemented fascism >i-it were the kikes' bidding all along goys, believe me! Americans are mentally ill, there is no other explanation. As for OP's question, I wonder why you act all surprised. The jews always play all sides so they eventually never lose and still have space to regroup and keep jewing around, I thought this was supposed to be common knowledge for most people here. >>28199 >it's safe to assume that AZOV are larpers and shills, trying to undermine our cause. They are, and at the same time they are so dumb to serve as cannon fodder for (((Zelenski))) who will conveniently get rid of pesky White ucrainians. Typical jewish tricks. >>28214 >le edgy satanists are real nazis! lol, no
>>28217 >>28218 NPC-tier responses. I believe Hitler served a noble cause in fighting the Jewish elite of the world, but to deny that there is a troubling connection here is undeniable. For example, how is it that A. Wyatt Mann who created the happy merchant meme, a meme which is tremendously popular, just so happens to be linked with Anton LaVey, or should I say ((( Howard Stanton Levey)))? I know it's easier just to shout kike and use your natural defense mechanisms here, but the facts are the facts.
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>>28220 Jewish woman tier gossip and concern trolling. >a meme which is tremendously popular Good >just so happens to be linked with Anton LaVey So? Should we not use the happy merchant meme just because the author used to associate with certain people? Yes, Anton Oy Vey was a kike, everyone knows that, but do you know who also used to be one? Rabban Yehoshua ben Josef, also known as Jesus. Surely you don't mind that? He was our lord and savior after all.
>>28223 >immediately resorts to whataboutism Are you posting a selfie of yourself there? Christianity doesn't have anything to do with White racial survival and National Socialism, the figures listed above >>28214 do. The fact that you ignore this is quite interesting. Why does National Socialism attract 'Satanists'? Why is it so common online? We do not see this with other types of fascists.
>>28225 >Otto Rahn and Atomwaffen are literally the same goy >Some people supporting the ideology were in contact with some other people (who not only did not support the ideology, but were opposed to it), that means you should reject the ideology itself >Oy schmuck, let me pretend to be concerned about some fringe movements (some of which are obvious honeypots) and Jews trying to infiltrate historical movements to show how nazi and fascist LE BAD >Yeeeshh, very, very intereshting Poor bait, you should put more effort into your garbage slide threads if you want to get those 50 roubles. How about trying to make an actual argument?
>>28227 >noooo don't look at the connections and similarities between people across time and space associated under common labels! This is basic pattern recognition, anon. It's just like how people like William Luther Pierce are obviously tied in with the transhumanist agenda of the Jesuits, UNESCO, Jewry and Masonry. But nooo, muh precious Pierce was totally /ourguy/!!! You will doubtlessly ridicule this, but if you had insight into how the enemy actually works, then you would see it as clear as day.
Maybe a small Whitepill.
>>28228 What is your point anyway? There are enough differences between the organizations and individuals that you have listed to invalidate whatever you are trying to insinuate without even going into their relation to NS/fascism. You are also implying that people like WLP should either be 100% followed up to every word or completely rejected, which is quite stupid. >but if you had insight into how the enemy actually works You mean they have the atheist angle, the Christian angle, the "Satanist" angle, the "eastern spirituality" angle, the Masonic angle and every other approach imaginable to infiltrate and subvert organizations to serve their interests? That's basic, and no, it does not mean that the organization that they have mobilized most of the world to destroy was somehow working for them.
>>28228 >It's just like how people like William Luther Pierce are obviously tied in with the transhumanist agenda of the Jesuits, UNESCO, Jewry and Masonry You may be a retarded shill, but thank you for the laugh. WLP has some stupid views, but I have never read any sort of those views being expressed in his works.
>>28190 >Hitler had and encouraged Jews to join his party in assist in his battle against international Jewry. He even had sodomites like Ernst in the party before the long knives purge, very suspicious.
>>28234 So you're saying that Hitler should've purged them too? I guess that can happen with our current problem of non-Whites who think they have a say in White nationalism. I initally used to think these "enlightened" non-Whites should fuck off. But lately, I've been thinking that these shit-colored people should be accepted temporarily. When the race war is over, we can get rid of them, instead of sending them back home. The Jew ain't the only enemy, you know.
Pretty sure half the posts in this thread are from Moarpheus.
>>28238 Literally who?
>>28232 >WLP has some stupid views, but I have never read any sort of those views being expressed in his works. WLP is at root a transhumanist. Have you heard of Cosmotheism? The ideas of Cosmotheism are almost word-for-word reproductions of the thought of the Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin and the founder of UNESCO Julian Huxley, whose essay on transhumanist literally leads like a Cosmotheist tract. I'm not shilling. Dig into it and see that I am right.
>>28220 >le edgy satanists are actually national socialists, trust me goy! >also, WLP was actually Klaus Schwab's mentor all along! Come on now. You sound like someone who read about national socialism as explained by a kike historian or (((extremism expert)))
>>28250 Have you ever read Teilhard de Chardin or anything written by Julian Huxley on transhumanism? If you are familiar with WLP's writings on Cosmotheism you will instantly see the connections. The argument is not that that WLP was directly in collusion with any of these figures, but rather that he was quite clearly propagating, knowingly or unknowingly, the ideas of a certain milieu that directly argue in favor of the transhumanist agenda that the modern elite are in favor of. If you want links or whatever, I can provide them, but you've got to do the reading for yourself. Also, the argument has never been that all NatSocs are Satanists. The argument is that many key figures in National Socialism in the intellectual elite sense have undisputably had links to Satanism / Luciferianism. This board is clearly not a Satanist board, and neither really is /pol/ on 4chan or 16chan, nor was it on 8chan. But the current exists below the surface.
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>>28252 Provide the links, but you should have first explained where the hell these "connections" between cosmotheism and transhumanism are to be found exactly, according yo your vision. Also, the "troubling connection" that you might be thinking of is due to the fact that 80 years of constant kike demonization of national socialism and hitler turned into the most evil man to ever walk the earth has caused a superficial attraction to nazi aesthetics and kike myths of evilness by retard edgy degenerate individuals who, by all means, would have probably ended up into a gas chamber (always assuming those were real in the first place).
>>28257 >Provide the links, but you should have first explained where the hell these "connections" between cosmotheism and transhumanism are to be found exactly, according yo your vision. Fair, but sometimes people don't want to read a text-wall without any context, so sometimes I don't divulge all of the stuff that I could immediately. At the root, ultimately, what is Cosmotheism? Of course Cosmotheism is an idea / philosophy popularized by William Luther Pierce in order to give his racial politics a deeper foundation or worldview underpinning it. Though it might be redundant to explain, Pierce believed or at least propagated an idea that the universe was a monistic Whole. Metaphysically-speaking, one thing exists, and that is the universe. There is no transcendence or anything. He posits a pantheistic Whole of which we are all apart of, and more than this, this universe is evolving. It is not the blind evolution or Darwinism, but rather a teleological evolution of the Whole towards godhood or self-realization. To put it as simply as possible, Pierce taught that we as White men are have some sort of duty or destiny to advance the self-realization of the Whole, because we as parts are the Whole at the root level, no different from it, made from the same evolving stuff. One can see this idea laid out in these three foundational essays: https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/02/cosmotheism-the-path-updated/ https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/02/cosmotheism-on-living-things-updated/ https://nationalvanguard.org/2010/09/cosmotheism-on-society/ Now personally, for some time I was rather interested in this idea, and began to research it myself. The first thing I discovered was that Cosmotheism was not just Pierce's idea pulled out of thin air. First off, a Jew named (((Samuel Alexander))) who died in 1938 had a very similar set of ideas, writing a two-part work called 'Space, Time, and Deity'. This is what Alexander believed: < For Alexander, God is the whole world possessing the quality of deity (Alexander 1920ii: 353). However, the “whole world” does not yet exist because Alexander’s universe is one of process; the universe is in progress towards becoming complete, and this is why Alexander claims the universe is in process towards deity. The whole world, which will possess the quality of deity, does not yet exist, but part of it does: “As an actual existent, God is the infinite world with its nisus towards deity” (Alexander 1920ii: 353). The quality of deity has not yet arrived—and indeed, may never arrive—but God exists in the sense that part of his body, the growing world, does. <God… is himself in the making, and his divine quality or deity a stage in time beyond the human quality. And as the root and leaves and sap of the plant feed its flower, so the whole world, as so far unrolled in the process of time, flowers into deity… God’s deity is thus the new quality of the universe which emerges in its forward movement in time. (Alexander 1939: 330) https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/alexander/#SpaTimDei We can see quite clearly that Alexander believed in a dynamic universe that is evolving gradually towards godhood. There is a nisus, or telos towards which it is moving inexorably, and we as free agents play a part in this role. This is shockingly similar to Pierce's philosophy. But it does not end here. The Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin is another person who has an almost identical philosophy. The entire universe of matter is evolving according to de Chardin. It is teleological as well, moving towards an Omega Point, the final stage of the universe, which is essentially identical with Godhood. Man is something dynamic, he is part of a larger process involving the entire universe and its ultimate destiny, which is essentially in the terminology of de Chardin the actual formation of the Body of Christ. He talks frequently about human convergence, progress, self-complexification and globalization in his works. This man died in 1955. Julian Huxley, who I will mention in a moment, also wrote the preface to one of the books in which he lays out this philosophy, The Phenomenon of Man. de Chardin's ideas were condemned by Rome for a time, but since Vatican II they have been circulating more and more and referred to positively by Pope Francis. One can hardly deny that this is similar to Cosmotheism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin#Teachings
>>28257 >>28264 And then finally (for now) we have Julian Huxley. Huxley is of course also directly linked with his brother Aldous Huxley who is quite the suspicious figure himself, being involved with books about psychedelics, perennialism and similar topics. Julian Huxley is a famous evolutionist, eugenicist and the first director of UNESCO. Under his tutelage UNESCO put out major declarations on the topic of race, such as the one in 1950, which Jews such as (((Claude Lévi-Strauss))) and (((Ashley Montagu))) participated in drafting. This document of course claims that race is a 'social myth' and that there is no different in temperament or potential between racial groups. Interestingly, Montagu (born Ehrenberg) is tied directly with (((Franz Boas))), another highly interesting figure who is the 'father of American anthropology' and was seminal in the idea that race is a social construct with no bearing on reality. But what makes Huxley worth mentioning here is that he is also arguably the coiner of the term transhumanism and wrote an important article on transhumanism. In said article, he tacitly assumes the same presuppositions as people such as de Chardin, William Luther Pierce, and Samuel Alexander, i.e. the entire universe, biological and abiological is evolved in a massive process of never-ending evolution. It is dynamic. Huxley writes that it is mankind's job to be an agent for the rest of the Earth in order to reveal its 'inherent potentialities'. It is man's destiny to control the future evolution of the Earth. There are even hints at population control in this short essay, which is a key aspect of the transhumanist depop agenda of (((Harari))) and Schwab today. But at the root here we are dealing with an evolution-centered philosophy that relies on the idea of man being an agent in the future evolution of the earth and all of humanity, and that man can and must transcend himself towards a state of Godhood. The similarities in the philosophies mentioned here are highly interesting. I can't help but think that they are all part of the same agenda. https://web.archive.org/web/20160625132722/http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/huxley The more I dig, the more it becomes clear to me that the transhumanist / progressive / evolutionist agenda is literally the key to everything, and it is this that the Jews and other elites through the process of Tikkun Olam or whatever one wants to call it, are moving towards. It's the same idea over and over again.
>>28265 This transhumanism idea seems logical, just gotta de-jew it.
>>28252 >The argument is that many key figures in National Socialism in the intellectual elite sense have undisputably had links to Satanism / Luciferianism Dude, you're clearly a kike. Anybody who had any understanding of the philosophy of satanism would understand that National Socialism, Hitler, and the third reich stood in complete opposition to it. Satanism is purely about "total freedom", or the modern conception of it, that is. It encourages its followers to do whatever their base urges desire, and to let everybody else pursue these vices too. National Socialism, however, is the opposite of this. It pursues true freedom, which is about giving the most people possible the ability to make the right choices, free of hinderous vice. You're a retarded christian kike who has no understanding of what he's talking about.
>>28268 I doubt it can be dejewed. Advanced technology requires a complex society and system, which will be controlled for a tiny elite, and it almost always be in the interest of the elites to keep such technology restricted to themselves at the expense of the rest of society. Plus it's completely messing around in stuff we don't understand. It can never end well. >>28269 You should really read the OP, otherwise you would not have said something like this. Anything and everything can be assimilated to forward Jewish interests. The overlaps become even clearer when we realize that (((Howard Stanton Levey))) literally plagiarized the 'Satanic Bible' from stuff like Ragnar Redbeard's 'Might is Right' and from the ideas of Nietzsche and Social Darwinism. All ideas and figures that are quite influential in these circles. You are clearly bluepilled, because an atheistic ideology like this based on the concept of the will to power and might is right can, via some basic calculus, result in the same thing that National Socialism preaches. Total freedom is total freedom. Total freedom can be highly disciplined might is right, destroying and trampling your enemies under your boot in order to maximize freedom and to rule according to one's whims and desires. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the connections here. You can't seem to understand that an ideology which is founded on the rejection of ethics and morals gives one the freedom to transvaluate values as one wishes.
>>28278 >You should really read the OP, otherwise you would not have said something like this. I did. Say what you will about the modern skinhead "Neo-nazi" image, but national socialism and Hitler were not corrupted by jews. Even today, as evidenced by some posters on this board, national socialism remains pure and free in the minds of a few individuals. All they can do to try and push it away is call Hitler make blatant lies about the actions of the third reich and it's true ideology, like you do now. The overlaps become even clearer when we realize that (((Howard Stanton Levey))) literally plagiarized the 'Satanic Bible' from stuff like Ragnar Redbeard's 'Might is Right' and from the ideas of Nietzsche and Social Darwinism. I don't disagree with the fact that evolution and it's logical conclusion, social darwinism are jewish, but you are trying to demonize the entirety of certain thinkers ideas because of a few steps in the wrong direction in some places. Nietzsche's recognizing of the jewish spirit of modern society despite the decline of christianity, and his writing on the overman are invaluable, and should not be discounted just because of some other portions of his work. If you've ever read Mien Kampf, you would realize that Hitler suggests this same method. > You are clearly bluepilled, because an atheistic ideology like this based on the concept of the will to power and might is right can, via some basic calculus, result in the same thing that National Socialism preaches. Total freedom is total freedom. I don't think you comprehend Hitler's meaning of natural law and the National Socialist spiritual worldview. National Socialism never preached "might is right". It outright called social darwinism, like capitalism, and jewish iq tests immoral. Jewish propaganda like "The nazis wanted to take over the world" is simply not true. Their goal was to make a german state that was reflective of the German people in accordance of natural law. They NEVER conquered for the sake of it. It was always with purpose, as they were respectful of all life, unlike the jewish social darwinist. > It doesn't take a genius to recognize the connections here. It takes a jew to. Only an effeminate slime ball could make the argument that since both concepts use the word freedom, they are the same. Again, the Germans rejected social darwinism. Social darwinism is completely different from eugenics, as one benefits the individual, while the other benefits the whole. > You can't seem to understand that an ideology which is founded on the rejection of ethics and morals gives one the freedom to transvaluate values as one wishes. Stop trying to tear down National Socialism. You will never succeed
>>28281 Social Darwinism is a key aspect of National Socialism. I am not sure what exactly you think that positive and esp. negative eugenics are exactly if not a permutation of Social Darwinism. The idea that Social Darwinism exactly means some sort of individualistic pro-laissez faire capitalism ideology is a low IQ interpretation that shows that you have not taken the time to really dig into the literature and into the various permutations of Social Darwinism from over time. Japanese evolutionists such as Oka Asajirō from the period in particular demonstration this the best, and they explicitly criticized the sort of individualistic pro-capitalist approach to Social Darwinism advocated by people like Herbert Spencer. People like Oka drew from the exact same scientific sources that influenced National Socialism, namely Social Darwinists and scientists such as Ernst Haeckel, Friedrich Ratzel and others, formulating in the progress a collectivistic totalitarian version of Social Darwinism based on the idea of social organisms. Anyone who understood science of the time concerning the ideas of varying levels of individuality would not be low IQ enough to think that the individual human being is the actual highest thing of value in the struggle for survival, since even the shortest observation of humans and many other animals demonstrates not only struggle, but cooperation, and it is this that collectivistic Social Darwinism and National Socialism are based off, i.e. group struggle between racial groups. The idea of might is right naturally follows from this, not necessarily as prescriptive idea, but a descriptive one showing the workings of nature, and Hitler himself, needless to say, endorsed this type of thinking in Mein Kampf and many other places when he used rhetoric in reference to dead ideologies by saying that nothing dies without being moribund in the first place, and thus deserves to die and to be replaced by the fitter groups and ideas. At its root, the idea of 'natural law' as a buzzword in NatSoc circles means nothing more than 'struggle' and 'might is right', because it is quite hard to find any more positive content underneath of it than that, because it is founded on a mere extrapolation of ideas from observation and a sort of abstraction into a fiction of some sort of universal pseudo-ethical 'law'. >Stop trying to tear down National Socialism. You will never succeed It's afraid.
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Despite this trend, they are still going to probably try to use Russia as an excuse to round up and shut down White Nationalist groups in the West. New article out today. Have you received your marching orders yet, lads? https://archive.ph/VHAgk
>>28339 I can only think the real reason for the sudden urge to increase the military budget on our peaceful tamed european countries is specifically because of that, with "muh russia" as an excuse to enforce tyranny on the clueless niggercattle.
>>28340 Yeah, it's all theater. After Covid in particular I feel like I am incapable of every being duped again, as it is so obvious that most world events are a massive puppet show put on for the entertainment and pacification of the masses, especially in White countries. Surface-level politics is where the niggercattle dabble. This is the area of the means, but the true aims are to be discerned underneath all of the bells and whistles put up for the distraction of the masses. >refugee crisis >Covid-19 >climate agenda >transhumanism >'muh Russia' Few would think at first sight that they all have one goal, but we know better.
>>28340 They are definitely worried about Russia, more specifically the relationship between Germany and Russia and the dislodging of the United States from Europe [and thus the dislodging of the United States from its imperial rents, to be repeated in East Asia].
>>28293 >The idea that Social Darwinism exactly means some sort of individualistic pro-laissez faire capitalism ideology is a low IQ interpretation You're low-IQ thinking that (((Social Darwinism))) will not slope towards ancap nonsense which it most certainly does if you actually understand it's content and the politics of the guy who pioneered the ideas other than Darwin himself. Especially when it is strongly for individualism. It couldn't get any worse that you're unironically a cosmotheist which is another common 'religion' amongst Masonic Jews. >Oka Asajirō He's not a Social Darwinist. He is just an evolutionist who believes that a state should put all it's effort into evolving mankind towards the next for what it's supposed to be, via eugenics and technology. He's not even a major inspirator of National Socialism's scientific racism. >Ernst Haeckel His books were banned for (((monism))) and freedom of thought aka anarcho-capitalism. The National Socialist Party had mixed views on his works as they did not believe in his psuedo-science and political views and only enjoyed him for the parts where he was an advocate of racism. >Friedrich Ratzel Ratzel inspired Hitler's strong belief in anthropogeography via 'blood and soil' and that was merely it. Hitler most certainly did not agree with Ratzel's belief that Germans are best settlers amongst foreign soil in terms of economic prosperity. Most of his works were not even a thorough examination of Germanic culture, but his personal thoughts ,because he was so inspired by Anglo plebianism and that he thought and wanted Germans were and to be best suited for economic competition and industrialism. Nothing of the mention of great leadership skills or aristocratic values like Hitler and co wanted. You can like someone without being an advocate of their ideology. >Anyone who understood science of the time concerning the ideas of varying levels of individuality would not be low IQ enough to think that the individual human being is the actual highest thing of value in the struggle for survival And thus the proof that you are indeed advocating ancap/Judaic perspectives. Looks like we found the anJew who's been shitting on NS within this board. The National Socialist had mixed views on Darwinism along with evolution. Hitler most certainly did not believe in the evolution that you see in Darwinism, but something more of a spiritual evolution that came with well-bred and pure citizens of Germania. Kill yourself unironically.
>>28339 Russia is trying to flip the narrative on Ukraine now
>>28454 This is the same hamfisted nonsense the Russians are always trying to peddle. And it's not going to work.
>>28265 >and it is this that the Jews and other elites through the process of Tikkun Olam or whatever one wants to call it, are moving towards. It's the same idea over and over again. Actual Luciferianism is an anti-thesis to Tikkun Olam, "oneness" and similar golem idiocy. Also, it doesn't really have that much in common with (((Satanism))). Anyway, in order to stay true to ideas of those like Teilhard de Chardin, they would be forced to admit that the White race is the highest expression of "godhood" on earth, in every possible aspect, not to artificially try to maintain a lie that all races are equal by doing everything contrary to what teleological evolution is supposed to be (what the globohomo transhumanists are actually doing). They have so many mutual contradictions that the underlying narrative that you are trying to present here doesn't really apply when everything is considered, regardless of WLP being influenced by those ideas. He just didn't really think them through. >>28293 Social Darwinism is relativistic, as it's about merely surviving and reproducing by doing whatever is most practical given the circumstances, without any pretenses to objective qualities that should be isolated and refined. In other words, Social Darwinism is much more likely to end up being dysgenic than eugenic. Just look at the lowly masses spending their whole lives thinking how could they outjew the rest in the most petty way imaginable, do you really think this is going to lead to a higher breed of man, ever? No, it will, and does, have the exact opposite effect. NSDAP did have an eugenic program, but it had nothing in common with Social Darwinism, because one aimed to create the Ubermensch, while another inevitably leads to the last man. They are rooted in different concepts, philosophies etc. and have different aims. Social Darwinism was meant to create a "perfect" slave caste for an extremely dysgenic, parasitical ruling class while NSDAP eugenics programs sought to refine the best racial traits to create or restore the master race.
>>28464 They're not wrong though.
>>28599 Yes, they are wrong.
>>28614 Azov is a fascist group. Azov is funded by America and Israel. Azov members fly the swastika and wear the black sun. The shooter the other day used the black sun too. All of this stuff is kosher and usable by the elite. It only goes to underline what I said in the OP.
>>28634 The Russians know exactly who is attacking them and more importantly, WHY they are attacking them. But because all of Russia's legacy assets in the West were built up through their communist network and because Russia is a postwar order state, they can't just be honest and forthright about things. So Russia continues with this hamfisted narrative because they were on the wrong side in WWII. I don't care what symbol you're putting on plate carrier -- if you're down with America and israel, you are not NS and you can't ever be. They wave that shit at very poor and amped up guys in Ukraine because it's something they needed to attract grist for the mill. Every single major Western city tells you exactly what is in store for Ukraine. Full of brown people like you.
>>28636 Why would the beast seriously attack itself? Russia is part of ZOG, no matter what alt-right retards think. Putin is part of the WEF, he has imprisoned or killed actual Russian nationalists, he lets Chechens, Dagestanis and other such churka scum terrorize the White Russians, and he may very well have a Jewish mother to top it all off. Russia is false opposition, and you are a damned fool if you think otherwise.
>>28644 >Why would the beast seriously attack itself? Pick at least one: >infighting >not micromanaging every decision of gentile government (the face value logic for Russia holds up, and doesn't impact globalist agendas) >Scapegoat for rising prices + chance to squeeze general populace globally >Clearing land for Neo Khazaria
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>>28644 >Why would the beast seriously attack itself? Society is literally going through a controlled, top-down demolition right now. The end-goal is depopulation and unlimited despotism. Expect to see food shortages, manufactured economic crises, and many more forms of medical tyranny like Covid-19 and mRNA vaccines in the years to come. Look into (((Yuval Harari))) over at the WEF for a preview of what is to come.
>>28644 Okay, Brandon. I don't really want to get into it with you.
>>28647 It's incredible just how stupid the whole "global famine" narrative is, at least with Goyvid you had a massive fear-mongering campaign, most medical professionals being compromised by big pharma and people actually getting sick and dying of something. But food scarcity? Give me a fucking break. None of the supposed "causes" make any sense whatsoever. Russia and Belarus are sanctioned? Fine, they will offer their food at a lower price to nations that didn't sanction them, which will make those countries buy more food from Russia and Belarus and less from other sources, creating a surplus on the other end, which the other exporters could then re-route to countries that did sanction Russia and Belarus (at a higher price) or use for domestic consumption. Ukraine? War is only really affecting like 30% of the country, and farms are not exactly priority airstrike targets. Affected countries kept producing food even during world wars when there were entire armies crossing them or fighting on their territory, it's hardly a good excuse. Droughts, bad yields? Happens periodically, that's why food reserves exist. Other than food being more expensive, it's not exactly something that should lead to a famine, especially given modern technology. Lack of fertilizer? It's not rare earth or meteorite minerals, lower supply would lead to a higher price, which would give an incentive to some happy merchant to produce it so that he could profit on it. Not that difficult to produce either, and you could always use the old fashioned methods like the cow dung. Supply chain issues? Easily solved by re-routing and more local sourcing TL;DR It being orchestrated by a bunch of communist kikes is actually the most plausible cause, no matter how bluepilled you may be.
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>>28662 I wouldn't be surprised if the jews are fear-mongering and playing with the economy a bit. But it's a mistake to think the supply chain is some kind of auto-leveling wonder with infinite resilience. The drive to maximize profits wherever possible means that in many industries, production is consolidated to a few vendors that can delivery incredibly low prices due to vertical integration and economy of scale. A good example is microchips where you'll find that there are relatively few fabrication players left such as TSMC that are providing everyone else with chips. The economy is more inter-connected than ever before, and a lot of the supply chain is based on just in time delivery to minimize risk of over-provisioning. So any wrench in the system can have effects that reverberate throughout the rest of it. If TSMC can't keep up with high demand because it's hard for them to get raw materials, and they can't expand fast enough because the demand on builders is too high, then car makers can't get enough chips to build their fleet on reasonable price margins to compete with what's on the lot from the previous couple years, and laptop manufacturers have to throttle production of their new models, etc. And even so, as you pointed out it's not the end of the world, it's just harder to get things so prices go up and the wait time increases. Of course this can price out people on the edge and drive them into poverty or desperation because they only buy 1 can of formula at a time, or maybe 1 roll of toilet paper every week.
>>28647 Exactly, that's what's been happening ever since COVID first came. They want to enslave the whole world so that we all become their shabbos goyim. >Yuval Harari He's the one who's been saying that this is all a big opportunity to get power over every individual's body through implants, right?
This is why clear pro-White racism and clear antisemitism are the basic requirements and should be verifiable every day, 24/7. ZOG is not even coopting National Socialism, it's barely able to maintain the lie, however fascism is not necessarily a White only thing right? the entire board started with a more diverse range of posters before it got booted twice and veered off into White supremacism. >>28176 KEKEKE The dude is so waling on the edge at some he'll get [email protected] or something. >>28179 >i find it funny how "WN" praise that mednigger mussolini despite Wut? Mussolini progressively adapted his fucked up soup bowl of a political system to include more and more racism, which managed to save a bit of Italy, and was ready to move beyond the sort of diluted doctrine of racism he had asked Evola to devise. >>mussolini's (((marxist))) origins That is irrelevant, he was a radicalized leftist and there many like these in NS Germany too who ended supporting the fuhrer. You're reaching. >>28181 >There are some very suspicious things surrounding aspects of National Socialism in both the time of the Third Reich and the post-war period. We all know, Hitler was a Zionist Jew.
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>>28721 >He's the one who's been saying that this is all a big opportunity to get power over every individual's body through implants, right? That's right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuL3wlodJC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qOHwplbt7E
>>28191 > Margherita Sarfatti 100% kosher with that family name. Proof that Fascism alone isn't shit free. I'm not saying that a strong man couldn't bend the mind of a weaker women, even if Jewish, but blood is blood. >>28214 >National Socialism is highly rooted in occultism and more specifically Luciferianism. The Luciferianism is based on a Luciferian Some groups you mention use Luciferianism but aren't NS. Real NS was in Germany before 45. Very few groups and individuals in the postwar period can claim being true to NS, while some people have tried to adapt a slightly different approach to avoid relying too much on the visual codes and idolatry. Otto Rahn didn't even have a positive outtake on the Lucifer figure before he wrote Court.
>>28789 >Very few groups and individuals in the postwar period can claim being true to NS Name some. I bet there are Luciferian links.
>>28244 >WLP is at root a transhumanist. Have you heard of Cosmotheism? The ideas of Cosmotheism are almost word-for-word reproductions of the thought of the Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin and the founder of UNESCO Julian Huxley, whose essay on transhumanist literally leads like a Cosmotheist tract. I'm not shilling. Dig into it and see that I am right. You had posted that before >>12034 you may want to keep this in the Cosmotheism thread to avoid going off tracks.
>>28278 >ethics and morals Faggotry nitpicking, same stuff. Also might will always be right, the point is to channel the act into a greater purpose so it serves a people's interests, ours. >>28281 >National Socialism never preached "might is right" It didn't? That's fresh news. Everything in NS is a call to power and will to improve and master life against all possible types of obstacles and foes. You seem to think that might is right should mean the same thing for everybody and lead to the same consequence, some kind of absolute destruction of everything outside of the group.
>>28340 Increase of military budget under ZOG means only one thing. There's no mystery to this. >>28592 >Social Darwinism is relativistic, as it's about merely surviving and reproducing by doing whatever is most practical given the circumstances, without any pretenses to objective qualities that should be isolated and refined. In other words, Social Darwinism is much more likely to end up being dysgenic than eugenic. Social darwinism applied to race and the survival of a people can only lead to a betterment of the people because it takes a certain idea made true within a nation for said nation to do what is befitting its survival in the best conditions. >>28634 They can all blame each other can call themselves the new Hitler because Hitler isn't there to shut their mouth, and even if he were he might not be heard at all. >>28662 >It's incredible just how stupid the whole "global famine" narrative is Seconding this. They're creating false scarcity, breaking one or two more layers of the lower economy to transfer even more power and wealth into the multinational corporations which are the big managers in the globohomo system.
>>28791 I didn't say NS is opposed to Luciferianism or that being into it means you're into NS too.
>>28786 >We all know, Hitler was a Zionist Jew. He was just naive to think that giving kikes their own state would lead to them finally fucking off from other countries and stop being subversive parasites. Him being a Jew is an entirely unproven shill piece, and it often gets pushed by Russians who can't reconcile their Soviet brainwashing and state propaganda with getting redpilled on the JQ. Just like Americans resort to some cope like Christian identity instead of abandoning it completely. In both cases, it's the last straw before the goy is finally free from their mental control. An independent Israel would be a better option than Israel as a Rotschild puppet state. It was just realpolitik. >>28789 Otto Rahn actually wrote the Court after being instructed by the SS...
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>>28786 >Hitler was a Zionist Jew.
>>28234 >He even had sodomites like Ernst in the party before the long knives purge, very suspicious. Hitler and co did not know Ernst was a sodomite. Hitler liked Ernst for capabilities which he did have, although no one knew that he was a faggot. anti-sodomy were already passed and they were disallowed to join the party. >>28786 >We all know, Hitler was a Zionist Jew. This has been debunked countless times and never do the people who claims this prove it to be true. >>28214 >National Socialism is highly rooted in occultism No it isn't Robert Sepehr. The Third-Reich declared war on occultism. You're referring to neo-nazism. >>28797 >sexafagging Did you come straight from discuck? >Social darwinism applied to race and the survival of a people can only lead to a betterment of the people because it takes a certain idea made true within a nation for said nation to do what is befitting its survival in the best conditions. 1. None of you have or can practice Social Darwinism, so it's dumb to treat it as an objective solution when it is merely an idea created by a bunch of lolbergs. 2. Social Darwinism's survival of the fittest justifies the reign of already powerful, weak and corrupt men, and encourages individuality over collective solidarity. Its image of 'fittest' is very arbitrary and puts those who are already on top of the pyramid out to be innately better than most simply because they are powerful and reign on top. The idea that races will battle amongst each other for survival reign on top isn't Social Darwinism origin, but a historical and logical fact, so anything related to Darwin's theory are unnecessary. He just simply noticed this pattern of events and used it to make his theory seem more closer to truth than anything else, while also maintaining his own personal bias as a form of science.
>>28822 >This has been debunked countless times and never do the people who claims this prove it to be true. could have been sarcastic tbh
Why are you guys even bothering to respond to what is obviously a troll? "Muh Luciferianism", only a deranged Abrahamic mind would claim that to be the case for fascism.
>>28325 this I don't understand why Ukraine wants too join the EU, look what happened to Hungary. grants and funding blocked because Hungary won't allow pro-gay laws in its country. the best opion for nationalist groups in europe to become like Finland but now the gene is out of the bottle and can't be put back.
>>28852 >this I don't understand why Ukraine wants too join the EU They want money and Washington wants another turbojew vassal state inside of the EU because it doesn't trust Germany and France. I assume they also want to keep the hydrocarbon deposits and farmland out of Russian control.
>>28822 >Its image of 'fittest' is very arbitrary and puts those who are already on top of the pyramid out to be innately better than most simply because they are powerful and reign on top Well put, it's basically one giant cope for dysgenic subhumans at the top to attempt to somehow rationalize their undeserved and unwarranted positions, while in reality they are simply laying on so much accumulated "weight" that no matter how incompetent they are, they simply cannot lose, even when faced with immensely better competition. And the system is socially dysgenic as well because it's built around preventing anyone else from getting anywhere close by rigging everything against them. A very bad loop. Social Darwinism (in the common usage of the term) is not Eugenics. And despite the original term having certain connotations, it doesn't need to be that way. Eugenics highly depends on what do you actually consider "better" and that's dependent on the paradigm that you are operating under. What might be better for one, might not necessarily be better for another. So ideally, we would try to determine what's objectively better, and if that's not feasible, then simply let every group pursue their own vision? But oh wait, that's actually forbidden, meaning that (((someone))) might not be all that certain about the objective superiority of theirs... >>28851 His pilpul is so bad that we should make sure that he doesn't get paid for it.
>>28852 Ukraine's elite want to incorporate it into the EU to expand the region under control of the incipient European superstate under the control of unelected bureaucrats, and they want to be able to shuffle around immigrants, capital and goods easier. >>28851 Luciferianism =/= LARPers wearing horns and carrying pitchforks, genius
>>28870 There's nothing inherently good about elected officials or elections.
>>28870 Yeah, nah, you're full of shit and deranged if you seriously believe that fascism is about the worship of Satan. Just quit with the bullshit and get to the part where you start proselytizing about your Christ, retard.
>>28878 You don't even know what the terms Satanism and Luciferianism mean. You are a child intellectually. 4/pol/ might be more your speed. >>28877 Obviously, but it's an obvious contradiction and tension within their professed worldview, which is a smokescreen.
>>28879 Considering you throw out the terms at whatever upset you, and then attach it to fascism, neither do you. Since you throw the terms without properly defining them for the benefit of your audience, I have to rely on guesswork to figure out what you mean. So if, by those terms, you mean the "material and spiritual inversion of the natural order", in that what is up is down, good is evil, etc., then fascism stands opposite to that.
>>28977 >you mean the "material and spiritual inversion of the natural order", in that what is up is down, good is evil, etc., then fascism stands opposite to that. This entirely hinges on how one defines good and evil, or what is / is not 'spiritual'

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