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National bolshevism thread Blackshirt 04/22/2021 (Thu) 16:28:54 ID:0a3033 No. 3362
Do you think national bolshevism is much potential alongside other 3rd positionist movenents.Why is the national bolshevism isnt as legit movement nowdays somelike many leftists are obsessesd with infighting alongside themselfs seeing it as a violent Threat to leftism.
National Bolshevism is a complete meme, and an oxymoron. It is subversive and anti-Nature in itself with its principles of class warfare as well. I do not know who would purposely choose to label themselves with the name used by a gang of jewish gangsters who massacred and enslaved the people of the Russian Empire. Communism in itself is unworkable at large scales, and is synonymous with technocracy, which, as we see today, obviously works so smoothly and well with the medical dictatorships instituted since the beginning of Covid. The tragedy of the commons prevents any sort of public ownership working on a mass scale. NazBols are leftists who think they should be accepted because they pay lip-service to the nation.
Nazbols is a meme and something that cannot and should not exist. It's just an idealology created by a bunch of edge-lords leftists who accept some social conservative policies. It's no less of a daddy issue idealology than Marxism.
>National Bolshevism Sorry but we don't accept LGBT or any jewish threads being made on here.
We don't need this kike degeneracy. Kys, natbol faggot.
Sure. It's basically Stalinism with more emphasis on national identity.
Thuletide has the best compilation I've seen on why NazBols / Duginists are subversive literal faggots, I'm not sure what is left to discuss other than continuing to point out which controlled opposition they're connected to and wondering which side will hang them first.
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>>3393 Thuletide's article on Nazbols and Duginists was great, you just reminded me about that. Anyone who for whatever reason isn't aware of the nature of these people, as well of the nature of people like Keith Woods and the like, absolutely has to read this article: https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/alt-right-duginism/
>>3395 Sometimes I wish we had a comprehensive website that went through all of the controlled opposition like this, and a sticky at the top of every /pol/ or third position board pointing at it, as it would seem that a lot of the youth just fall for it over and over again. Just yesterday I saw that some "Australian" (with an American accent) NS leader was found to have a gook wife in the midst of his doxing members over nothing and advocating that anyone taking action is reported to the police, and here we still have people thinking Trump was on our side for a single nanosecond of his orange kike life. It's like Charlottesville never happened.
>>3399 >Sometimes I wish we had a comprehensive website that went through all of the controlled opposition like this They don't make their articles this detailed but Renegade Tribune does a pretty good job at exposing controlled opposition.
>>3389 Which doesn't work and is retarded. Stalin is a kike and a faggot.
>>3389 >It's basically Stalinism with more emphasis on national identity. It's just another "ism" meme that doesn't make any sense. >>3399 > and here we still have people thinking Trump was on our side for a single nanosecond of his orange kike life. I don't know what you're talking about, because no one here has thought that Trump was on our side.
>>3389 Stalin and his views are diametrically opposed with those of National Socialism, and even beyond this, they are not healthy for our people. And to zoom even further out, it is not Fascist. The real litmus test here to see how 'revolutionary' Nazbol is is to go out with a hammer and sickle and wave it around. Some people will like it, some boomers will sperg out and most people won't give a shit. If you did the same with a Swastika you'd probably be beaten bloody within a half an hour depending on the area and the cops would be called to remove you.
>>3414 Don't care if it isn't actually fascism, Saddam and Iraq wasn't either. Communists consider Stalinists traitors to the revolution for good reason and it's because they had to completely change communism from it's theoretical manifestation to make it workable with reality and the result was Russian imperial ambition. >>3402 Achshually he killed kikes and faggots
>>3395 What is your obsession with Keith m8? You brought this autism from cafe and he's not even a duganist.
>>3422 >Saddam and Iraq wasn't either. Your point? There's little to celebrate about Iraq and Saddam except to say that it was better under him than after he was deposed. Stalin was no friend of Whites. Despite all of your talk about 'muh socialism in one nation', Stalin's USSR was still quite active in funding anti-fascism activities throughout Europe and attempting to subvert free European countries. We all know how much Stalin contributed tons of aid to the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. The USSR used (civic) nationalist sentiments to rally people around the regime when it was literally in shambles. The USSR was a massive multikulti empire. >>3423 Keith is a crypto-Marxist.
>>3424 Stalin supports people with his ideology? You don't say!? My point is that in order for communism to work he had to heavily modify it with national characteristics that the theory of Marx didn't account for. Doesn't mean he's a fascist sympathizer or even a third positionist, it just means he shares characteristics of it much in the same way that China does today with it's "socialism with Chinese characteristcs". Also Russia itself was multikulti and unless you kill every single central asian native to Siberia it's always going to be that way.. Explain how he's wrong with that assessment. You might actually have autism if you can't see the implication the comment below is making in regards to your interactions with other races, especially as far as /pol/ as a community goes. It does come off as sociopathic in the vein of loving your own people because you make it an all or nothing dichotmy where you aren't willing to help others if you're in a position to do it to no detriment to your own people. It isn't necessary for nationalism.
>>3428 >It does come off as sociopathic in the vein of loving your own people because you make it an all or nothing dichotmy where you aren't willing to help others if you're in a position to do it to no detriment to your own people. So basically you're saying that if White people were well off then the White races should be helping the non-White races? Wow you got balls saying that around here.
>>3430 I'm not saying we should be doing anything for anyone. Our own people take priority in a situation like this but if we're well off I don't see a problem with giving excess food to third world countries in the middle of a drought or international relief efforts. The problem with these things now is that it's being used against us. The african population is breeding far above their capacity to feed themselves on their own because the modern west is giving them obscene amounts of support all for the sake of importing their excess population to our shores for cheap labor and dividing us to keep from becoming nazi again. Support should only come in a crisis and we should never let them through our borders. tbh my concern is mostly for the endangered wildlife the niggers would have to eat to keep from starving which is why I wouldn't have too much of a problem with relief.
>>3428 Nationalism / ultimately prioritizing one’s group isn’t sociopathic though, it’s retarded to even say that. Nationalism relies on the exact opposite of sociopathy, but rather on altruism and cooperation among a group of closely-related people. This typically involves multiple tens of millions of people working more or less together. Is putting this group ultimately first, especially when one only has a choice between one’s own and another sociopathy? Of course not, it’s a Law of Nature to side with one’s own and to seek their survival before all else. >you make it an all or nothing dichotmy where you aren't willing to help others if you're in a position to do it to no detriment to your own people. You’re not wrong but ultimately it comes down to only one’s own group mattering, regardless of what one does or says. This is even true with those say “a place for every race”. Ultimately they would throw other nations under the bus and destroy them if they had reason to, not carrying about that race’s “place”. Why? Because ultimately—if one is not totally cucked and brainwashed—they will realize that they are their group matter the most from their subjective point of view. Other groups operate the same. >>3432 >I don't see a problem with giving excess food to third world countries in the middle of a drought or international relief efforts Same problem with giving nigger’s welfare. It’s dysgenic and is keeping afloat people who ought to die off if they get themselves in such situations in the first place. Droughts and famines are Nature’s way of thinning out overpopulated areas and the weak. There are already too many people in third world countries, as you say. I’m not really one of those who constantly seethe about the mere existence about non-Whites but I truly couldn’t care less if they die off in large numbers in a crisis someplace. Ultimately better for the Earth
>>3433 Right, but Keith isn't saying prioritizing your group is sociopathic, he's an Irish nationalist himself. This autist likes to take things out of context and obfuscate the meaning behind the words and you can see it plainly with the fucking filename itself. Keith is talking about the /pol/ types you find in nationalist circles that do think it's an all or nothing dichtomy where you can only care about your group and not have any empathy or altruism to other groups because of that. That's where the sociopathic tendency lies and it's used constantly to attack us and prevent even our own race from joining with us because it comes across as us being broken toys of society rather than people that want what's best for our race. A place for every race sounds nice but reality is much different than that. Anatolia would be Greek land or atleast they would have a strong claim to it, but they just don't. Luckily for most Whites we don't need to expand into areas inhabited by other races, we already did it long ago with America, Australia, and etc. The only question now is resources of which we can just trade for. Like I said, we shouldn't have to do anything for any other race, infact if we were to (rightfully) stop giving welfare to africa millions would die, but it would bring their population down to a level that only they would be able to sustain with their own technological development which would be needless to say, low in comparison to asia. If such a thing like that were to happen I wouldn't have a problem with the leftover populations getting aid from a crisis, but definitely not this overly inflated population number they have that's only being kept afloat due to the west's pathological altruism.
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>>3423 >What is your obsession with Keith m8? You brought this autism from cafe and he's not even a duganist. He identifies as and promotes NazBol, is connected to Dicky and has the same thousand cock stare, I'm not sure the pictured quote above was the best example of this. May I ask what makes him worth defending to you?
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>>3432 > if we're well off I don't see a problem with giving excess food to third world countries in the middle of a drought or international relief efforts AYY LMAO
>>3441 There's the expected reply! There's this unspoken rule of /pol/ boards >the probability of a fuck you reply to a shitskin-sympathy post increases to 1 over the time. A guy posts how shitskins are okay and aren't too bad. The fuck you reply to that will be posted in a day, a week or even a month (bumping the thread unexpectedly). But, the "fuck you" reply STILL gets posted. Fascinating isn't it?
>>3457 It's exactly this kind of cancer that has driven our best posters like synarchist anon from the board.
>>3461 I said basically the same thing a few hours ago in the unpopular opinions thread. Retards this type are the single biggest type of cancer on /fascist/ and are actually part of the reason why /fascist/ was originally created to get away from low-quality /pol/tards like >>3457. And before some spergs attack me, I don't think that giving aid to Africa is a good idea either, but it is highly irritating to see good quality posters driven away and replaced with low IQ tards who would be better off on /pol/
>>3462 This is the the "curse" of imageboards though, every pleb has the right to voice his opinion, it only really works if you are small enough or if there is something to keep them away, sooner or later plebs will flood every last corner and turn it into a nivellated swamp, a possible answer is heavy moderation but that's just another cursed blade. I don't know a good solution either, maybe custom capchatas like on zzz to at least filter out the worst cases would be a step in the right direction.
>>3466 I think an autobot for nigger-tier typing like /a/ has is effective at filtering retards. Provided it can be implemented without weighing down the site too much like Hoihoi did on 8chan.
>>3467 Something like Hoihoi would be nice. Anything open for plebs to reign free always degenerates. The problem with Hoihoi is that it was just too strict. I remember that you could forget to end your sentence with a period and it would ban you and delete your post. That's a bit excessive, but filtering out nigger babble and certain conventions is always a good idea.
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>>3461 >>3462 There's nothing "high IQ" about subsidizing the breeding of future enemies, or engaging in liberal moralism.You'd think that self proclaimed "pro Whites" would want to avoid making the very same mistakes that our predecessors made, mistakes that lead to this mess in the first place. But I guess being perceived "as le high IQ intellectual" by sperging about your "super special, obscure brand of fascism" or your bizarre mix of communism, with fascist aesthetic, is just more important than securing an existence for our people, huh? I was there on 8chan when fascist was first founded, and yes, it was made for higher quality discussion about fascist ideology, while /pol/ was more for more general discussions. Yet, always the populations of /fascist/, and /pol/ came from the same general worldview, and were part of the same struggle, not even mentioning that most of us were cross-posters. It was only the retarded strasserist board owner who tried to turn it into some anti /pol/ board, "he was also the creator of "le based nonWhite anime girl" intergalist chan", and he eventually closed the board down "with another anon reopening it later" then went onto /leftypol/ and announced that he was a full blown commie, and fuck fascism, because he decided that Strasser didn't care enough about "muh class" and fascism was "ebil" because "muh waycism, muh holocaust, muh imperialism". like every other commie on that board. Presumably most of you fags will join him in eventually deciding that going communist will be the right way to go, since you get to larp, and pretend that your le super special "intellectual" that's just so much smarter than "those dumb, evil, hateful /pol/ peasants" because you know what "historical materialism' truly means, and you understand that not every nigger is a bad person, while not compromising your bourgeois, liberal, morality, in the process. Pseudo-intellectual, idiots, who only care about their own egos love that kind of shit. Also I was the one who took this screenshot, looking back the Kosher thug comment was cringe, but at the time I was still a big fan, and his video's on NS Germany, such as the "Nazi economy" showing how they solved the class problem, are still good
>>3470 >I remember that you could forget to end your sentence with a period and it would ban you and delete your post That was actually a meme. Hoihoi doesn't know when your sentences end with punctuation or not. It just checks if your post contains a specific list of words or acronyms. The meme was just to discourage plebs from even trying to post, at least if memory serves. That, or it was pushed by /animu/ to get people away from /a/. I don't remember certainly. But I agree that it shouldn't be too hardcore - walling out acronyms and flavor of the month meme phrases like "hot take" would be sufficient.
>>3473 You don't have to advocate for foreign aid (I don't, I think it's antithetical to fascism and furthermore it's unintelligent) to see that >>3441 is low-effort nonsense.
>>3475 Meh, some amount of shit posting is alright. Especially when it's making fun of retarded bullshit like what that anon was posting. Don't be a pretentious faggot.,
>>3362 Fuck off tranny cancer cell, there will NEVER be any compromise.
>>3473 I hope you know we have the same BO today as the "Strasserist BO" who created the board
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>>3478 So you're the guy who reopened the board after the strasserist chimp out? Cool, thanks for keeping it alive after all these years.
>>3479 No, I am the Strasserist who created the board in March / April 2018 until July 2018 when I lost control of the board and was then given the board back in April 2019 by the guy who reopened it when he left.
>>3480 Was that guy on /leftypol/ larping?
>>3482 Nah I don't know who that is, it's a larp. That along with the idea that I was some sort of Brazilian mutt was another thing that was stuck on me after the board was wrecked kek. After /fascist/ went down everyone went to an alternate board that someone set up called /3rdpol/ if I'm remembering correctly. I tried to come in and make a board with almost the exact same name, until I realized I was being retarded and was basically splitting the board, especially after I had not shown up immediately after the problems. So I realized I was being an ass and quietly closed the board and mainly lurked and quietly posted on /fascist/ in the months that followed. And when the BO who had taken over in the meantime decided they wanted to leave and leave the board to someone else, I stepped up and volunteered and he gave the board to me since he wanted to maintain a similar style of moderation that the board had had.
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>>3483 Ahhh, ok, sorry for posting misinformation. All this time I thought that post was real, lol.
>>3483 What was the actual problem with the board, than?
>>3485 Kek, don't worry. >>3486 Which board do you mean? Are you asking what happened to the original iteration of /fascist/ when it got wrecked? Someone got into the board since my password was literally something like '123' and they proceeded to fuck with CSS, make the board unusable and then got the board shut down over that since the 8chan global rules said you had to have the board usable / accessible. The reason I didn't get control back of the board was because I didn't come and see what happened for too long afterwards, which of course made people upset (rightfully) and led to the board being given to a new BO.
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>>3487 OK, everything makes sense now. Thanks for explaining things. And thanks for keeping the board alive, even after everything that's happened, mega chad BO.
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>>3488 (heil) >And thanks for keeping the board alive, even after everything that's happened I hope that our struggle of having to move and move has finally came to an end. I do not think that any board has had to move as much as /fascist/ has since the end of 8chan. We have had four different homes at this point, so really I have to thank anons like you for sticking around as we hop from place to place.
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>>3422 >Achshually he killed kikes and faggot Actually he helped built Israel and empowered the jews in Russia, when Hitler came to kill they Bolsheviks. Stalin didn't "kill" kikes and fags, but only jailed pedophiles and anyone disloyal. This "le based Stalin" is a lie and delusion.
>>3432 >I don't see a problem with giving excess food to third world countries in the middle of a drought or international relief efforts You are a liberal, no wonder why /fascist/ on 8chan, civic nationalists and strasserniggers always attract homosexuality wherever they go. Next you'll say we're too harsh on the lgbt and allow them to co-exist. Literal retarded cowards who play too much EU4 and think they understand politics.
>>3499 *no wonder why /fascist/ on 8chan was filled with so many gays*
>>3422 >Achshually he killed kikes and faggots He potentially married a jew, has possible jewish ancestry himself, and helped established the state of Israel. Stalin was never against jews he didn't like the zionists who refused to stay absolutely loyal to him and then fact that Israel refused to join the Soviet Bloc and decide to be on thr Western capitalists' side of the Cold War. You guys can stop pretending you're totally agaisnt jews, and not just Zionism as well, because National Bolshevikism is bluepilled on race and then JQ in general. https://www.deathofcommunism.com/stalin-the-jew/ https://www.jweekly.com/2007/09/27/did-stalin-have-a-jewish-wife-and-stepdaughter/ https://fitzinfo.net/2021/03/21/the-soviet-unions-forgotten-role-in-the-creation-of-israel/ >>3432 >I don't see a problem with giving excess food to third world countries in the middle of a drought or international relief effort Of course you don't, because you have a liberal mindset just like all Nazbol cuck or even reactionaries do. Western countries don't need to be giving jack shit to other countries unless they are the same race as them at all. We need to focus and only care for ourselves and fight for our interests. I couldn't care if a nigger nation is on the bring of collapsed and their children are dying ever single day because of war, rape, famines, etc, fuck em, it's a waste of resources and time to ever care about people who wouldn't do they same for you if you needed help. Do morons like you ever not have cuck mentalities? >>3461 >muh synarchist anon >muh cancer on the boardz!!! Feel free to leave and fuck off forever. There's nothing more cancerous than oribiting around a faggot who's political opinions are about as retarded as niggers here thinking that there was ever any based/fascist-like communists. Get over it, we don't like non-Whites. The le ebin 8chan days are over and trying to bring them back is pointless.
>>3502 You lack nuance. There are a few high-IQ or fascism-inclined non-Whites with perspectives and information that we can learn from. No one is saying to fuck them. There are exceptions to everything, the slippery slope is only a Fabian tactic, stop looking for it everywhere. You could use some perspective because apparently you haven't been around long enough to recognize a fracture point and not be used as a useful idiot on it.
>>3504 >You lack nuance. There are a few high-IQ or fascism-inclined non-Whites with perspectives and information that we can learn from. Learn from what? You're ignorant even calling non-Whites "high-IQ" or there anything to learn from when all non-Whites all believe in the same or similar bullshit, such as civic nationalism, muh economics, muh equality, and the other stupid ism and stupid shit that does nothing of value. High-IQ people don't go on imageboards just to shill their crap ideas that they think only works in their mind. In reality your IQ is about the same as liberals and kikes. >There are exceptions to everything, the slippery slope is only a Fabian tactic, stop looking for it everywhere. >Fabian tactic You are literally the type of faggots I hated fuck off with your intellectual bullshit. >You could use some perspective because apparently you haven't been around long enough to recognize a fracture point and not be used as a useful idiot on it. That's funny coming from someone who thinks non-Whites have good advice, when they have the same sentiment as I do, whether they're as much as intellectual as you are or not. Their "perspectives" are the type of ideas that end up with Whites in being submissive. I don't need "broaden" my perspective you psuedo-intellectual virgin, especially from the type who always have nothing to say and pretend that they're totally fighting jews from reading retarded philosophy and liberal thinking points. There's no advice I need from a nigger other than telling me how I can rid of a problem that affects my race nor a , spic or a jew. Also you're calling someone a "useful idiot" is ironic, because you want us to take ideas from people who are idiotic enough to easily become brainwashed by kikes.
>>3504 Nice LARP, but there are no high IQ non-Whites, there aren't any high-IQ anons on /fascist/ at all either. The Mexican was a literal nobody who browsed the board spewing gay shit and you guys praised and worshipped him like Christ. We didn't lose anything from not having him on here just like Hitler didn't lose anything from calling Strasser a retarded liberal and banning his literal homoerotic idealology. We don't need non-Whites to broaden our perspectives for it has already been broaden by looking back at history, and reading literature that talks about how our world has come to the way it is and is completely fucked in every single way, which are also not from non-Whites. Telling someone to listen to a spic on political advice is liking asking us to take advice from a autistic cow.
>>3438 He promotes the 3p worldview. That's it, that's all I need. I don't care if he wants to say marx hates niggers to showcase how leftists are out of touch with their own founder's worldview or accurately saying that national socialism wasn't actually socialist regardless of Hitler's definition of it. >>3499 I don't think you know what a liberal is. >>3502 He certainly hated his daughter getting married to a jew enough to send him to Siberia. Also I'm not a nazbol but fuck you I'll take an intelligent nazbol over the iq89 chimp nig nogs such as yourself that invaded this board and tried to gaslight everyone into thinking it's always been filled with ethnoglobe retards when the reality was this board was filled with leftist leaning fascists and red-fascist sympathizers. Your underdeveloped chimp brain probably skimmed over this part >infact if we were to (rightfully) stop giving welfare to africa millions would die, but it would bring their population down to a level that only they would be able to sustain with their own technological development which would be needless to say, low in comparison to asia. If such a thing like that were to happen I wouldn't have a problem with the leftover populations getting aid from a crisis, but definitely not this overly inflated population number they have that's only being kept afloat due to the west's pathological altruism.
>>3504 >There are a few high-IQ or fascism-inclined non-Whites with perspectives and information that we can learn from. I've been on /fascist/ since it's creation and never saw anyone I could say was high-IQ at all. There was just anons who read philosophy, history and reacted to current trends and pretended they knew it all. >There are exceptions to everything, the slippery slope is only a Fabian tactic, stop looking for it everywhere Yeah no, you're asking us to work with non-White fascists nationalist who are willing to do anything to bring their country and race on top of everything. This isn't a Fabian tactic, which shows you don't really means. Can you stop shilling for once?
>>3507 >He promotes the 3p worldview. That's it, that's all I need. Sets a very low bar for the controlled opposition network using him and keeping him unbanned from platforms, doesn't it? >or accurately saying that national socialism He was inaccurately saying the opposite. Furthermore the goalposts from moved from "he's not a duginist" to "okay so he's a duginist, but they promote 3p (because he's allowed to deliberately by the very enemies of 3p)". He is practically a clone of every other "face of the alt-right" that were so "intelligent" enough to get articles about them in Time Magazine and other globalist rags before anyone knew who they were. >>3505 >entire post of generalizing and ignoring the end of the bell curve even though my whole point is to not do it to a fault What's next, telling Savitri Devi to go back to the kitchen? >you want us to take ideas from people who are idiotic enough to easily become brainwashed by kikes. Who, most Western Whites?
>>3509 >from moved from *have moved from
>>3507 >He certainly hated his daughter getting married to a jew enough to send him to Siberia. And that doesn't mean he hated jews. His daughter was a major sperg, so it only makes sense, but you should also know that the articles were on his marriage to someone who may have been jewess. >when the reality was this board was filled with leftist leaning fascists and red-fascist sympathizers You mean the faggots right?
>>3509 >What's next, telling Savitri Devi to go back to the kitchen? Your comeback is gay. >Who, most Western Whites? Stupid answer, but expected from an idiotic shill. No it's most Western shit-skins.a perfect example of what I'm talking about would have to be the Algerians in France who turn themselves into transvestites. Also jews aren't White, but your post I'll give your post an E for effort.
>>3512 Also let's not forget the Chinese and Koreans in America who are willing to do anything Israel's puppet tells them to do, along with their own home countries celebrating Judaism and reading the Torah to become spiritually jewish.
> If such a thing like that were to happen I wouldn't have a problem with the leftover populations getting aid from a crisis Yeah you're still a faggot. Let em die off period.
>>3508 >never saw anyone I could say was high-IQ at all Takes one to know one, I suppose. >you're asking us to work with And since you can't read, that would explain it wouldn't it? >>3512 >ad homs that got old in '03 /b/ You're deeply boring, and once again you can only give another example that also defines current Western Whites.
>>3509 Which platforms have unbanned him? He's had to jump ship to other platforms like the rest of us and he promotes alt-media for this reason. I'm not referring to that specific tweet but I remember a video about him talking about how national socialism wasn't truly socialist. I never admitted to him being a duganist either, I didn't mention it because it's not worth the time to do it since he doesn't promote eurasianism and doesn't want Ireland to be filled with non-Whites which would be counter to Dugin's race blind philosophy. People call him a Duganist because he takes an interest in the philosophy like he does with other philosophies counter to his politics and everyone else sees this and just runs with the memes. Don't know where you get the idea about him getting promoted from, he's been censored plenty of times. >>3511 >but you should also know that the articles were on his marriage to someone who may have been jewess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ He had his wife killed And yes, the people who built the board up so you can have a community to sperg out about "muh shitskins" in.
>>3515 >Takes one to know one, I suppose. No I'm giving (You)s to the ones who aren't. >And since you can't read, that would explain it wouldn't it? You just argued that we needed to take perspectives from other anons, aka working and assisting non-Whites, but go off. >Muh ad homs Do we have to go through this shit again? >>3516 >¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Please stop... >He had his wife killed Are your trying to make a point? He still impregnated her and have an entire state to Israel. Yoh aren't making a point. I may be a retard, but only shit you're gigantic faggot. You're the type of nerds to get shoved into lockers.
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>>3518 >There's no such thing as left-leaning or right-leaning fascism and it misses the entire point of fascism in the first place. Actually, yes there is. Not every fascist nation employed the corporatist economic model. If there wasn't state oversight you might have had a point, but it's clear you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You niggers need to go back to /pol/ where you belong, there's no reason not to at this point since it's 2 clicks away.
>>3516 I was speaking past tense, I recall him remaining unbanned as people that were actually promoting truths were being eliminated some years ago, while putting out the exact same vibe as the other subversionists like Spencer and all the other undermining grifters. They've all since "changed their views" somewhat to fit in more on whatever alt-platform they're harvesting user DMs on now I'm sure, and everyone has made a big show of being banned like Alex Jones, yes. Anon, all I'm saying is, don't follow him to the next Charlottesville.
>>3516 >He had his wife killed Pretty sure that she shot herself. Even if he did kill her it doesn't matter, because in the end he married and impregnated a jew and gave an entire state to Israel. The guy wasn't killing jews, because he hated them, he wanted loyality. >>3522 >Actually, yes there is Actually there isn't and putting us on the wings, defeats the entire point of fascism. Read the Doctrines of fascism and stop getting your information from idiots. >Not every fascist nation employed the corporatist economic model. Bluepilled, economics and le ebin compass is why is why fascist hated it and rejected in the first place. Also what fascist country didn't go by the corporatist economic model?
>>3508 >I've been on /fascist/ since it's creation and never saw anyone I could say was high-IQ at all I don't understand. Whites have better IQ than nonWhites. So all of /fascist/ are spergs/schizos?
>>3522 >Actually, yes there is >Not every fascist nation employed the corporatist economic model. Compelling and stunning argument. Thanks for confirming you don't understand what fascism is in the first place. There's no such thing as left or right wing you imbecile and the fact that you think of economics as a political leaning goes to show that you're dumbass newfag. Your mentality is literally on par with /pol/.
>>3525 >/fascist/ was filled with Whites Oh sweet summer child.
>>3521 >Are your trying to make a point? Nope, just having fun with it really. I don't care about his personal life or family tree or anything like that. My interest in him is in regards to how he reformed communism into what it became with the USSR. I'm surprised no one has made a big deal about him not even being an ethnic Russian yet tbh. >>3523 I think he did the same thing Fuentes did to avoid being banned which was not saying anything too out there and deleting the post that were controversial. He still got b& in the end anyway. >>3526 >>3524 >What is national syndicalism >Who is Sorel >What are proto-fascists hurrrr
>>3527 lmao you might as well say all /pol/ related boards over the web are just non-Whites shitposting. (Except for Neuchan)
>>3529 They practically are ever since Imkampfy molded the perfect little retard out of /pol/acks by subtly banning effortposters and removing book threads/self-improvement. That's why the modern /pol/ack is a fucking idiot, they all gestated in that instead of killing /pol/ and moving on like the better boards that produced Saints did.
>>3528 You said some fascist nations did not always use the corporatist economic model and I asked for what actual fascists countries did not use it. You're just taking a bunch of LARPs that you read about on (((Wikipedia))) and identify them as fascist. Also proto-fascists aren't fascists, they're inspirators of fascism and the men who lead to fascism and used a variety of different economics of what you consider to be either left-wing right-wing or mixed. >>3529 /pol/ and /fash/ were never filled with any Whites. These boards have always been Latino movements just like the Alt-right.
Any fascists who calls himself left or right leaning is not only retarded, but an enemy. This is just typical leftoids trying to take over a board that was never meant from them.
>>3532 It's also pointless, because we don't care much about what is considered to be left or right wing when it comes to social and economic policies. I want to use anything that would help my nation and kin even if it does originated from a liberal, but for some reason there are people trying to rebrand something artificial and made politics so stupid in the first place and think it's a good idea to do what the leftoids are doing. I think this explains why we are seeing the existence of tranny fascists.
>>3533 >originated meant originate whoops.
>>3533 Don't forget that fascists were often betrayed or let down by those who identify as one of the wings. I don't care what a bunch of leftoids from /fascist/ and their e-celeb of a spic thought. Left wing and right wing only exists to illude you that you can't take ideas from your opposition and something exclusive to democracies. I couldn't care for what can be considered left or right, what matters is that we strengthen and unify the ethnic faces of our nations.
>>3507 >the reality was this board was filled with leftist leaning fascists and red-fascist sympathizers That's exactly why I avoided this board like the plague in the 8chan days. Stop crying about /pol/ as if you didn't crosspost or browse there back in the day. A few of you fags are entering lolcow territory with your worship of some mexican anon and the constant kvetching about ethnoglobe, which is only a far away and abstract concept. I don't know how you can cry about /pol/ all day when it's a fact that almost all the IRL effortposters in the past 5 years have come from there. Just get over, stop the whining and move on.
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>>3532 >This is just typical leftoids trying to take over a board that was never meant from them. You are definitely a newfag gaslighting. No one but other newfags are fooled by this. You're the rapefugee migrants parasitizing off the community we built, not the other way around. >>3531 >You're just taking a bunch of LARPs that you read about on (((Wikipedia))) and identify them as fascist. Are you actually iq89?
>>3536 Then post over there niggerfaggot. Who the fuck would want to crosspost on /pol/? We left it for a good reason and it wasn't so we could turn into a smaller, slower offshoot of it.
>>3537 >You are definitely a newfag gaslighting. >MUH G-GASLIGHTING I can tell by this post alone that your skin is softer than baby shit. You even cry like a left winger, I wouldn't be surprise if you were also going under a sex change as well. I don't care what the old board was like or not, there's nothing stopping you from making your own board. If you're high-IQ enough, then it shouldn't be a problem for you to shit-up a single posts with your TOR samefag.
>>3537 >Are you actually iq89? No argument, only ((( ad homs))), sorry buddy going to have to invalidate your opinion and arguments, until you decide to argue like an adult and not someone who was dropped on his hard enough to give him brain damage.
>>3539 I have a board and you have yours. Back to /pol/ nig nog.
>>3541 *head*
>>3542 I'm not from /pol/ and there's nothing from stopping me from posting here, so sad too bad?
>>3542 My bad I thought you responded to me.
>>3542 Lol is this the BO?
>>3548 BO is too nice to to tell the migrants to GTFO.
>>3547 >If the premise is retarded to begin with why should I take the time to "debunk" it? Or maybe it's just that you don't have an argument and being disingenuous. >If I bring up D'annunzio are you also going to dismiss him as a LARPer? The moment you use him as argument, is the moment I'll remind you that he was hated by left-wingers in Italy and switched his political standings. You aren't making a point and using D'annunzio isn't going to change what I said about how it's retarded to put yourself on the wings.
>>3541 If the premise is retarded to begin with why should I take the time to "debunk" it? If I bring up D'annunzio are you also going to dismiss him as a LARPer? Following the same logic in that post you likely would, so I don't really care.
>>3549 True, he allows manchildren, who cry /pol/ and throw tantrums over boards to stay. :^)
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This thread in a nutshell.
>>3550 Are you also going to debate with radlibs about the validity of putting pre-pubescent children on puberty blockers or are you going to say they're fucking retarded for thinking such things? If anon wants to dismiss Sorel as a LARP despite influencing our worldview then I'm dismissing him as retarded, simple as. Honestly you're putting too much into the left leaning and right leaning comparison. There was movements that were more focused on workers and there were some that guaranteed private enterprise. The thing that ties them all together is the state. To say that there were no left or right leaning movements is disingenuous when the most famous example of Strasserism was in opposition to Hitlerism despite being both fascist.
>>3554 >Are you also going to debate with radlibs about the validity of putting pre-pubescent children on puberty blockers or are you going to say they're fucking retarded for thinking such things? This was a shit comeback and even you have to admit it. Although this does seem something right on your alley along with the other left wingers go trans. >If anon wants to dismiss Sorel as a LARP despite influencing our worldview Sorel doesn't say anything intelligent or anything that needs to be known. Who cares if he inspired your worldview? You are a retard for thinking that ism are good ideas. >Honestly you're putting too much into the left leaning and right leaning comparison. There was movements that were more focused on workers and there were some that guaranteed private enterprise. Yup I'm telling you that they're both retarded. Fascists shouldn't care whether you're a worker or capitalist, because they dickson between both is bad and meant to divide people. The jew has worked to exploit this all the time and you're ignorantly for it. >The thing that ties them all together is the state Yeah and a fascist state should rid the existence of left-wing or right-wing or any class and political division for the sake of stability and cooperation. >To say that there were no left or right leaning movements is disingenuous when the most famous example of Strasserism was in opposition to Hitlerism despite being both fascist. To say there exist a such thing as right or left wing is dumb, because it means that you recognize (((democracy))) and its lies meant to divide all classes within society on purpose. Strasserism isn't National Socialism for it and misses the entire point and meaning of what NatSoc is all about. You are red-liberal and I'm done talking with you. I could spend my time talking to a brick wall and get more of an intelligent conversation than out of (You).
>>3556 >Fascists shouldn't care whether you're a worker or capitalist Maybe they should have cared more because it was the capitalist class that helped to sabotage fascists in the war. >To say there exist a such thing as right or left wing is dumb, because it means that you recognize (((democracy))) and its lies meant to divide all classes within society on purpose Are you seriously fucking telling me all this time you were thinking of the American definition of left and right? Goddamn you are fucking dumb, neck yourself immediately. >Strasserism isn't National Socialism for it and misses the entire point and meaning of what NatSoc is all about Really? Because Strasserism was the original party, not the Hitlerist faction that overshadowed them. >You are red-liberal and I'm done talking with you. You couldn't even tell the difference between what left and right actually is, If anyone is stuck in a liberal mindest it's you.
National Bolshevism? National Syndicalism? ust say you're /lgbt/ and have daddy issues and go bro lmao.
>>3562 National Syndicalism? More like National Faggot! Ayyyy
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Why yes I am a National Syndicalist, how could you tell?
>G-god you're fucking dumb, now I have to dilate my giant piss hole as I pray to femboy Stalin, because you rent free in my head! N-neck yourself immediately bigot!
>>3435 Keith is a Irish twink who thinks we need to work with a bunch of grifters and feds who don't do anything but Tweet and shill 24/7 and then turns out to gay. >Luckily for most Whites we don't need to expand into areas inhabited by other races, we already did it long ago with America, Australia, and etc. Nah fuck you, we're expanding in every places and cucking every race. If you want to suck big black nigger cock or if your girl needs a tumbling in bed while you watch, then go to Africa and fuck off from imageboards forever.
>>3567 K, good luck taking Rhodesia back irl and not just doing it with gsg to cope.
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I swear to יהוה if I have to endure another FILTHY FUCKING STRASSERITE BOLSHEVIK PUSHING HIS RETARDED IDEOLOGY IN 2021 STRASSERITES AND "NAZBOLS" DO NOT HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS. Strasserism was a proxy for Russian bolsheviks and when they flopped politically became a straw man "fascist" group. They aligned themselves with the homosexuals and troons, and were funded by kikes for the purpose of getting rid of Hitler. 100% of "nazi troons" and "pink swastika" images that strasserites spam on cuckchan in a desperate attempt to get people to join their retarded ideology can be (ironically enough) traced directly to strasserites from the past, with their entire ideology being filled with fags and troons. "Nazbols" aren't free of this either. 2 of the troons I spoke to on twitter were both nazbols, and every time they mentioned their mental disorder, they also made sure to describe themselves as fascist, even though they very clearly are not. You can see the same thing happening in trans-nazi discord servers. Literally every one of them are strasserites and nazbols larping as NS in order to discredit Hitler and National Socialism. This can also be observed for the forced "fascist femboy" meme. It was never organic, yet it keeps being shilled by these people. These ideologies are projecting, homosexual and troon-loving, crypto-bolshevik, kike-funded, and disloyal. In other words, they are just modern communist that can't escape the reality of race. They give up successful fascist social organisation and economics in failed communist ones. They can't get away with it. Expose false-flagging strasserites and nazbols whenever you see them, and call them out for being subversive parasites whenever they acknowledge their strasserite beliefs.
>>3570 >cope Go back to cuckchan >K, good luck taking Rhodesia back irl You make it seem as if it was impossible to bring it back. Rhodesia lost due to the Soviet Union, and Western powers cucking put and appeasing to their jewish masters. It worked perfectly fine with Whites having most of them power and doing everything, despite being a minority in their own state. Even Africans fought for Rhodesia were happy to have Whites ruling and populating the area and knew it was more of a fair state than the communists. Just like how you're serving your jewish masters by being a gigantic faggot who thinks modern isms matter. I don't care if you don't like ethnoglobe or not, or whatever faggy political leanings you're on, but don't come here shilling stupid shit and telling us that there's such thing as left or right. I swear to God I have never found people like you guys who always turned out to be homosexuals or contain kike ancestry. >>3577 >Nazbols" aren't free of this either. 2 of the troons I spoke to on twitter were both nazbols, Marxism always attracts the weak, stupid and inferior, so it only makes sense there would be trannies within their idealology. I also argued with one on Twitter on how the idea of being part of the lgbt and accepting them completely defeats the purpose of National Socialism, and he gave an asshurt answer about how all workers matter, no matter their "sexuality" or race. What's the point of being fascist if you're just going to be act as communist?
>3583 >Even Africans fought for Rhodesia were happy to have Whites ruling and populating the area and knew it was more of a fair state than the communist Since when? Many WNs meme Rhodesia bc it proves that White men used to take action. Wouldn't what you say shit on the narrative?
>>3526 > There's no such thing as left or right wing you imbecile Maybe there's no in America or in most ZOG'd countries, but I think what you're saying here's really a tired meme that needs to die. The basic definition of a leftist is a slave moralist who always sides with the "oppressed" and "downtrodden" against (natural) hierarchy, and pushes forward agendas such as egalitarianism, equal rights and the idea of "progress". Under this framework we see that 99% of everyone in the mainstream today are leftists of some stripe, especially from a historical standpoint since these ideas would be totally foreign in the past. True right-wing is affirming hierarchy, tradition, inequality and the like. Today all that exists is leftists and super-leftists, and all of them are really just puppets of the jew. Even Christians are leftists and don't know it. Maybe the real paradigm is Natural Law versus anti-Natural Law, and free versus jew-controlled
>>3593 >Since when? Are you really being this retarded? Blacks in Rhodesia could vote and had better conditions than today of what used to be Rhodesia. > Many WNs meme Rhodesia bc it proves that White men used to take action. WN use it as an example that Whites are internationally hated and could make a state fair and prospering state and everyone in the world would still seek to destroy. > Wouldn't what you say shit on the narrative? You're aren't very smart. Philosophy not only makes you gay, but retarded as well. INB4 you samefag with your IP and then TOR like a coward.
>>3606 >WN use it as an example that Whites are internationally hated and could make a state fair and prospering state and everyone in the world would still seek to destroy. I half-assed this. *WN use it as an example that Whites are internationally hated and could create a state that is fair and prospering for everyone and the world would still seek to destroy it and the White people within it.
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>>3583 Absolute bullshit. You'll see a small minority of Africans say they want Whites back because they're starving now but the vast majority of them like controlling their own country despite having to resort to stealing White farmland. Same with S.Africa. Most of the niggers there aren't even native to SA but that still doesn't stop them from celebrating overthrowing boer rule and taking it for themselves and running it to the ground. I have no doubt in my mind your physiognomy. It's the same short head, thick lipped, wide nosed nigger like features that all self-respecting Whites from a century ago could tell would lead to it's modern low iq counterpart.
>>3609 > You'll see a small minority of Africans say they want Whites back because they're starving now You see communists saying this you dumbass. Mugabe was the one who made them think this way in the first place. >but the vast majority of them like controlling their own country despite having to resort to stealing White farmland This mentality was rarely in their minds before, because niggers were too stupid to give a shit who ruled the land they inhabit as well, because they were given their own land and autonomy. Again Mugabe was the one who lied and told niggers that "Whitey stole muh landz" and they fell for the lie, because Africans don't think to ask how and why. >Same with S.Africa. Most of the niggers there aren't even native to SA but that still doesn't stop them from celebrating overthrowing boer rule and taking it for themselves and running it to the ground. Again their celebration was out of ignorance and being fooled into thinking they were benefiting themselves. We can clearly see that they regret this now and I've even seen blacks mock their stupidity thinking that murdering White farmers was ever going to help them. Even the Zulu tribe who fought the Anglo called out the niggers and their stupidity for being fooled by the Marxist thinking that they could ever rule and prosper the lands that Whites built and developed. It's easy to manipulate stupid people and make them think that the White man is evil, which is why the jew always uses non-Whites. >I have no doubt in my mind your physiognomy. It's the same short head, thick lipped, wide nosed nigger like features that all self-respecting Whites Yeah sure, keep LARPing as a White man Jamal. You have a inferiority complex and obsession with IQ, but maybe that's because in reality you're nothing more, but another self-hating Amerimutt with a brain of a nigger and the phenotype of a spic.
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I think the real question is what exactly does National Bolshevism even imply. Okay, so we have the idea of nationalism or the importance of the nation-state implied in the first half, but what I really want to know is what does "Bolshevism" in this context imply? Does it still imply Marxism materialism or atheism - something which is clearly a failed model in practice? Does it imply class war? - there's nothing wrong with putting the capitalists under control and stopping them from betraying their race and nature (as they are prone to do) but when it comes to the idea of eliminating other classes entirely, this is just simply impossible. Hierarchy is natural to all complex societies and all attempts to dissolve it have only led to the formation of new classes. If it is mainly these two differentiators I fail to see the appeal of "National Bolshevism", as these alone are basically fantasy-tier or undesirable elements. Nazbolism is a false path.
>>3657 The Marxist idea of class is totally divorced from the hierarchy apparent in the Natural Order. Marxist "class" is purely based in the material, or "who has more money than I," in theory - in practice it sabotages and attempts to undo the aforementioned natural hierarchy. To that point, nationalism is in part the belief that your nation rests atop the national hierarchy. In other words, nationalism and bolshevism/marxist socialism are irreconcilable. The "National" half of "National Bolshevism" is a veneer, a front, a facade, but in practice the ideology is thoroughly anti-Nation.
>>3702 To be clear, when I speak about "the Marxist idea of class being divorced from natural hierarchies in theory" I am not saying "the theory is good or correct," just that it's intent is not to dissemble natural hierarchy, even though that has historically been the result.
>>3702 >>3703 The problem with Marxism is that in practice it is 100% a moral theory. Marxists are prone to deny this by saying that it is merely a former of ‘analysis of class relations / class struggle’, but in practice this Marxism doesn’t exist. As has been discussed here before, Marxism is best viewed as a materialistic Abrahamic religion of sorts. Any Marxists advocating for natural hierarchies and anything not kosher to the general leftist program of slave morality would instantly be reviled as a ‘Nazi’ or ‘reactionary’. As soon as Marxism comes in contact with reality this is inevitable, because the real world doesn’t work on *allegedly* disinterested theories of class struggles and material conditions. Marxism and related theories will always find their home best in losers, the resentful, the envious, subhumans and those with no other place to go. Nietzsche was right about these people. So essentially you are correct. A truly nationalistic form of Marxism will never exist. What happens in practice is the following—either the natural values will to an extent win over, and the regime will adhere to a thin veneer of socialism and support Marxist talking-points occasionally in words but not deeds (think North Korea), or the leftists will keep pushing and pushing until they are put down either by those more grounded in reality, or until they are killed off by people who have had enough of the madness. Ironically enough most third world ‘Marxist’ nations went the first route. They mostly de-Marxized and only adopted the ideology to get support from the USSR and to sweep away the old social structures so that globohomo industrualization could be adopted all the faster. Real modern Marxism has its home in the West today, and it is highly potent. It’s the natural conclusion of Marxist thought, and all leftist thought, and Nazbols need to realize this fact.
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>>3423 Keith Woods was just providing a platform for Christcucks yesterday, I think this is even more proof that he is a bad influence on our circles.
>>3764 On his Youtube channel, of course. They all go back after a street-cred ban, don't they?
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nazbol is basically >appreciating the authoritarian and economic aspects of stalinism and third world socialist dictatorships while also supporting NS its not that deep
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>>3808 >appreciating the economic aspects of Stalinism Top kek.This is why no one likes you faggots. There's nothing to appreciate here. It's even funnier to look at your meme and see Hitler lumped in with Nazbols. It's almost like you people have not read Mein Kampf, or even Otto Strasser's alleged dialogue with Hitler from 1930. Not only is it funny since Otto Strasser published it himself, but he gets BTFO by Hitler on his own dialogue. He completely dismantles Strasser's socialism, ideas of class struggle, ideas of nationalizing everything and other pozzed, Marxist ideas. https://institutenr.org/2016/12/30/hitler-vs-strasser-the-historic-debate-of-may-21st-and-22nd-1930-otto-strasser/
>>3808 >jew lovers are nazbol >Trump is nazbol >Putin is nazbol Holy fuck you people are retarded and gay. No wonder why you attract so many trannies and it's because you have so much in common lol. Most of the people in this image are faggots and never actually supported the working class.
>>3808 The last thing you want to do is claim that Stirner, the degenerate individualist anarchist faggot who hated socialism, along with Jim Jones the guy who ran a crazy death cult, as nazbol. The rest of the meme is just outright wrong and doesn't make any sense. As matter of fact I would argue that Gaddafi and Hitler are probably the only ones who did more to become the enemy of the jews and support the working class than anyone else. This meme just doesn't make sense especially when Hitler, Stalin, and Putin all helped jews.
>>3812 >Hitler, Stalin Putin I'm retarded I meant Trump, Stalin, and Putin, but my point still stands.
>>3812 >Jim Jones the guy who ran a crazy death cult You'd be surprised to find some WNs who would believe he's based for killing so many niggers.
>>3814 >>3812 >>3810 I think the pic is supposed to be an obvious meme (at least one would hope), though this is obscured by the fact that the post it is attached to appears to be in good faith. Really besides Hitler the only good figures in that pic worth even having a debate about are Pol Pot, Gaddafi and Idi Amin
>>3820 >I think the pic is supposed to be an obvious meme It's hard to tell, because nazbols have made similar memes that are just as bad. >Really besides Hitler the only good figures in that pic worth even having a debate about are Pol Pot, Gaddafi and Idi Amin Is it true that Pot, Gaddafi, and Amin all had soft feelings for Hitler?
>>3829 >It's hard to tell, because nazbols have made similar memes that are just as bad. Yeah at some point the irony gets so heavy I can't even tell anymore. >Is it true that Pot, Gaddafi, and Amin all had soft feelings for Hitler? Idi Amin eventually became aware of the nature of the jews and said that he understood why Hitler killed them this didn't happen, of course since they subverted Germany and it is obvious that the Israelis / jews are not working in the interests of the world. I don't know about Gadaffi or Pol Pot. The only reason I mentioned Pol Pot is because he was an ethnonationalist, or at least professed to be (read pic related). The major problem with Pol Pot though is that he was shipping tons and tons of rice to Communist China while his own people were starving, which is not very nationalistic. I even read conspiracy theories allegedly held by some Cambodians from after the DK years that China was trying to depopulate Cambodia for Chinese settlement. There's no real proof of this, and Pol Pot and his closest associates actually abandoned Communism in the years after the Vietnamese toppled and them and continued to wage war. If anything, we could say that he was a utopian leftist with somewhat ethnonationalist / racialist leanings.
>>3808 Please tell me this is a joke..... >>3829 Armin understood why Hitler fought against the jews around the time he got J-pilled. Although there's no information on what Pol Pot thought of the NSDAP, and Gaddafi can only be said to be similar to Hitler in a way that they are both hated by jews and wanted to save their country from the debt slavery. I do have a theory that Gaddafi had soft feelings for Hitler, but he just didn't want to openly admit it due to the lies spread around about what the Germans did during the WW2 and how they were going to ethnically cleanse everyone who weren't them. >>3832 >The major problem with Pol Pot though is that he was shipping tons and tons of rice to Communist China while his own people were starving, which is not very nationalistic Don't forget that Pol Pot also worked with the CIA, which was also a mistake on his hands as well. You could argue that he only wanted to use them or maybe it could be because he was not aware of who they were during his contact with them, although sooner or later he should of realized that you never relax around CIAniggers, especially if they can gain something from your successes.
>>3859 Gadaffi also seemed very aware of his role in preventing Europe from being flooded with blacks. He knew what would happen if he was removed, and warned / threatened Europe over this fact. Not saying that he was /ourguy/, but he knew what was going on, to say the least, and that is why the jews destroyed him and had him brutally killed. Pol Pot must have gotten tied up with the CIA after he was kicked out of power, because otherwise it just doesn't make sense to me. Before he came to power, the United States was just flat-out carpet-bombing Cambodia, leading to at least some 150,000 deaths. Eventually it was the Khmer Rouge who toppled the US-supported regime of Lon Nol and executed anyone they could get their hands on from the old regime. This makes it hard to think that he was a CIA puppet at this point. Many leftists too are just butthurt that Pol Pot killed Vietnamese people just for being Vietnamese and genocided Muslims, as well as going to war with Communist Vietnam for Lebensraum
>>3832 >>3859 >>3862 I get why some would understand Gaddafi, but Pol Pot was a maniac. He starved his own people. Plus he sends people to gulag over idiotic reasons like being bespectacled. As for Idi Amin, he knew about the kikes but he was a fucking cannibal. If he wasn't one, then good for him.
>>3808 >appreciating the economic aspects of stalinism I'll never understand why people choose to side with tried-and-failed bolshevik economics rather than the highly successful fascist economic system. Is it edginess? In any case, "NazBol" will always evolve back is National Socialism, as their economic weakness gets worse.
>> 3876 >Is it edginess? Kosherness. Governments and mega corporations aren't tracking down nazbols and arresting or blacklisting them. It's a non-threat ideology, which makes it a safe hobby.
>>3879 This also explains why they are so weak on race and the ethnic struggle as well. It's better to be apart of no idealology, than suck up to the jew, because you're too "radical".
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>>3866 >Plus he sends people to gulag over idiotic reasons like being bespectacled This is pure propaganda. Cambodia in the 1960s and 1970s was an extremely rural and poor country. Most of the country was composed of peasants, none of whom would have had many Western luxuries like glasses. On top of this, the people of Phnom Penh and other cities were often capitalists and foreigners. There was almost no working class in the Marxist sense either, it was extremely small. So if one is fighting a revolution ostensibly against all things Western, urban and capitalistic, and is separating and treating the proponents of these ideologies and activities as different from the 'purer' peasants less infected by modernity, it would in fact make sense why those with glasses were treated badly, if this is not complete bullshit in the first place, and the reason would not because they need glasses therefore they're evil, but due to the fact that them owning glasses marks them out as a member of a class of people that the Khmer Rouge set out to abolish
>>3884 He's a communist.
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>>3885 Correct, but not in the Marxist sense despite how aligned himself. That's what makes him so interesting. What we see with the Khmer Rouge is a genuine example of an ethnonationalistic movement that persecuted / killed ethnic minorities, liquidated foreigners and capitalists in the cities and then basically instituted a two-tier caste system. Check out this post that I made back on 8chan /fascist/ here >>3832 (attached pic) where I show that Pol Pot and his movement were closer to the non-Marxist Narodnik movement in pre-revolutionary Russia more than anything else.
>>3764 Oh no, the horror! Giving a nationalist Christian a platform to try to dispel out of context lies told by LARPers! With how much you try to divide nationalists into these tiny obscure categories I'm starting to believe you're a kike.
>>3969 It really is horrific, because I value the Truth. Leading one into falsehood and glorification of a jew as the Son of God is horrific, and once one accepts this basic premise, their mind is primed for all sorts of other doctrines that could very well be harmful to nationalism. Abrahamism is no tiny problem.
>>3971 And what alternative do you offer? A reconstruction of a religion long since dead that you have to take from it's last remaining relative from India, or pure atheism where everything is broken down to it's material components? No one is going to flock to either of these in a noticeable amount except for atheism given we're in globalist hell right now.
>>3972 Well atheism is clearly not the solution, as it has shown itself very inadequate in almost every regard. Interactions with these people alone and the voting statistics (indicating how left-wing / progressive self-described atheists are) show all of this fairly conclusively. When it comes to Christians, I would never try to lead one into atheism. I think that would be a mistake, and I would not feel right about doing that, but I have tried to free them from Christianity when I could. I have never had any success, but I have broadened the horizons of some at minimum. With paganism, I don't think it's as bleak as you think. In some parts of the world we're already seeing small, yet still remarkable revivals—the example of Romuva in Lithuania and the various forms of Rodnovery in Russia are good examples of this. The problem with reconstructionism is that it's almost purely exoteric. It is not a problem to look into how our ancestors performed rituals or how they spoke or looked, but this is clearly not what a religion is founded on. A religion that is purely exoteric is missing its spiritual heart. What is needed is a genuine rebirth, one that may incorporate the elements of the ancient traditions, but will also be something of its own. The will only be done when someone hits literal Vishvamitra or Buddha levels of enlightenment. The Truth is always accessible, and what is needed is direct intuitive insight into said Truth. The entire system of Aryan spirituality flowed from the top downwards from suprarational and transempirical insight into reality. Not everyone can reach this level, but a small number can. Mainstream Christians today are reliant almost solely on flimsy things like 'faith' and not direct experience of God, and this is where they fall short. Faith might be enough for most people though, I cannot entirely fault them. For pagans today, they think that merely aping the external actions of their ancestors is enough, when it is clearly not. Personally though, I do not see the problem with borrowing concepts from India. Many of them are rooted in great wisdom and truth, parallels of which can be found in numerous traditions around the world. I adhere to a semi-Perennialist view though, I must admit, and believe that Truth has often expressed itself in many different ways.
Is it just me or are a lot of nazbols are Satanists?
>>4013 A lot of these weird 'ideologies' (if they can even be called that) cluster together. It's sort of like mental illness. When you're one, you're more likely to be a whole cluster of others. Satanism is a whole rabbit-hole of its own. Why and how it got associated with Fascism or National Socialism or any other sort of related set of ideas is beyond me, but I know it's malicious, just like those people who laud Aleister Crowley
>>4015 >A lot of these weird 'ideologies' (if they can even be called that) cluster together. It's sort of like mental illness. True, but why Satanism? I don't see how you're going to own the jew by becoming like them. >Why and how it got associated with Fascism or National Socialism or any other sort of related set of ideas is beyond me, but I know it's malicious, just like those people who laud Aleister Crowley I think this lie was spread on purpose or misunderstood, because of some Satanist had supposedly claimed to be fond of Hitler. NatSoc Satanism has to be nothing more, but a psy-op to subvert modern NatSoc. And you would have to be dumb to use Crowley as an example, because he loved Lenin and didn't care for Hitler that much at all. I think he even admitted he preferred Communism, which is just further proof that communism no matter how "trad" will always attract sodomites.
>>3885 He's not a Communist, he hated Marxists as much as we do.
>>4020 Satanism appeals to edgy rejects, and unfortunately National Socialism has been made attractive to edgy rejects through its demonization by the jew in the course of the latter half of the 20th century and beyond. Satanism appeals to the atheist as well. It is materialistic, indulgent of the ego and desires, not to mention that a load of it is quite transparently ripped off from Nietzsche, Ayn Rand and Ragnar Redbeard. Satanism is a psyop, as can be seen obviously in things like the Order of Nine Angles. I would argue that you are downplaying Crowley's influence too much. ONA has been influenced by him, and echoes of it can be seen in LaVeyan Satanism. Wicca too is a direct mashup of Freemasonry and Thelema as well.
>>4026 >I would argue that you are downplaying Crowley's influence too much. ONA has been influenced by him, and echoes of it can be seen in LaVeyan Satanism. But like you and I agreed on, Satanism is a psy-op. The Order Of Nine Angels can't be legit NatSoc group, but just a bunch of glowies made to make White supremacy look worst than jewish terrorism. Also wasn't LaVeyan exposed as a CIAnigger cult?
>>4027 LaVey was a kike and was a close associate of another pedo creep named Michael Aquino, who was lieutenant colonel and military intelligence / psychological warfare officer in the Army. I haven't looked into this stuff too deep but that alone is telling.
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>>3829 Lol you think that meme is bad? Check this shit out nigger.
>>4069 I don't see how the meme is wrong. It's low effort, but pretty accurate.
>>4070 Ah yes Occupy (((Wall-Street))) the most racist or rejectors of anti-racism and greatest threat to capitalism with their orgy camps, druggie hippies, mutts LARPers who cry about muh land, and their retarded protestors getting pepper sprayed and shot by rubber bullets for being spergs.
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>>4070 No it's not, correct, look at his own chart which proves him wrong. It literally shows and proves that racism was bitched since the fucking 80s (even though it started and grew in the 60s) and that the left never saw racism, even after the cold war, as fake and gay and a non or lesser issue. OWS shouldn't be used at all as an example of nazbol or le based leftists, because they were always bitching about muh racism like a bunch of soyfreaks and using it to paint wealth inequality and mass poverty on the fault of Whites. OWS was never a threat to capitalists nor capitalism ever for they were just a bunch of dumb protestors controlled by the jew, and their goals and actions were the same as #niggerlivesmatter. I had a feeling someone on here was going to agree with this shit-tier meme lmao. Repost to fix my previous shitty post.
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>>4069 Go spend a few days listening to old William Luther Pierce broadcasts from the late 90s and early 2000s. The exact same stuff that we are talking about today was being talked about, and he regularly cites articles and outlets peddling such things. Also the meme here >>4069 makes it look like there was literal militias about to overthrow the government and kill all of the bankers, but in reality it was a bunch of smelly hippies living in tents and banging on drums and holding "clever" signs up for the media owned by the same people they were protesting against. Americans don't even know how to protest. Just compare Euromaidan or even fucking Gilets Jaunes to the average American protest.
>>4076 >No it's not, correct, look at his own chart which proves him wrong. It literally shows and proves that racism was bitched since the fucking 80s (even though it started and grew in the 60s) and that the left never saw racism, even after the cold war, as fake and gay and a non or lesser issue. OWS shouldn't be used at all as an example of nazbol or le based leftists, because they were always bitching about muh racism like a bunch of soyfreaks and using it to paint wealth inequality and mass poverty on the fault of Whites. OWS was never a threat to capitalists nor capitalism ever for they were just a bunch of dumb protestors controlled by the jew, and their goals and actions were the same as #niggerlivesmatter. I had a feeling someone on here was going to agree with this shit-tier meme lmao. Repost to fix my previous shitty post. I think what you are failing to grasp is the sheer change in how it's been used to silence Whites and create a massive divide between different groups. Think about how these kikes work- when they sense the masses coming together to revolt against their jewry what do they do? Divide and conquer at fuel it warp speed. If they keep everyone fighting with each other they can continue jewing unmolested. In 10 years they've brought the entire Western world to it's knees,, to crisis. The immigrant flooding of Europe started in 2011 as well. OWS was the catalyst for their accerationism which led to GamerGate, and the voting for Trump.
>>4114 >I think what you are failing to grasp is the sheer change in how it's been used to silence Whites and create a massive divide between different groups. OWS never cared for White people or the truth, it was always just a bunch of middle-class retards pretending to be poor and oppress for state gimmes. No one in OWS ever said shouted that it was Whites were becoming poor, taking the biggest hit from the economy, and suffering from the hands of the banks. >Think about how these kikes work- when they sense the masses coming together to revolt against their jewry what do they do? Yeah listen here, if you're going to "revolt" against the jew then don't go around spreading aids, doing drugs, and shitting things up while holding protest signs and crying about muh 99%. Rarely did anyone at OWS treat the situation seriously and in the end it became a big fat joke that was easily infiltrated by the jew. I don't know why you're still trying to defend them and act as if the jew subverted and destroyed them when they were always kikes. >Divide and conquer Again there's no one to work with who doesn't share the same motivates as the jew. >If they keep everyone fighting with each other they can continue jewing unmolested And the fascist and right-wingers are the only ones trying to actually fight the jew. > OWS was the catalyst for their accerationism which led to GamerGate, and the voting for Trump. What are you talking about? OWS never accelerated anything other than annoyance and hatred for hippies and how they're useless hacks who literally need to pay people and promise the return of pozzery during their lame protests, for anyone in jew York to give a fuck about Wall-Street being kikes. OWS never lead to gamergate, because GG was filled with a bunch of ancaps who didn't like leftists injecting their politics and ruining the market for the industry, which had nothing to do with OWS. And the vote for Trump was nothing more, but one gigantic shill for MIGA from boomers who didn't like liberals not shilling for Israel enough, and a disguised vote for right-wingers who were dissatisfied with the current state of America and hoping for more social conservatism with Trump. You nazbols or whatever political leaning you are, need to stop this LARP about muh divide and unification with non-Whites or "fellow workers". There's no possible way to work with people who are completely brainwashed and have racial hate for Whites no matter what. If you ask a leftoid what they thought about race and the JQ, then they're just going to say the same stupid shit about minorities being oppressed under White people and cry antisemitism. It's time to recognize that the only revolutionaries who actually attacked the banks and capitalists now were usually ethno-nationalists, because Marxists and every leftists as a whole do not give a shit about the banks. Excuse my cuckchan lingo, but I'm seeing a tremendous amount of cope from former leftists who won't admit that their views were always gay and filled with the slave moralists, because their ideals were for them this whole time. But I'm just making assumptions based on your post.
>>4124 >nazbols or whatever political leaning you are, need to stop this LARP about muh divide and unification with non-Whites or "fellow workers" I've only seen non-White ethnonationalists doing this on telegram. Are they considered nazbol?
>>4124 >OWS never cared for White people or the truth, it was always just a bunch of middle-class retards pretending to be poor and oppress for state gimmes. No one in OWS ever said shouted that it was Whites were becoming poor, taking the biggest hit from the economy, and suffering from the hands of the banks. I never stated that OWS cared about White people, only that it was a catalyst and tipping point for normal fags and some leftists who saw what was happening in 2008, how jew banks like Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers siphoned wealth away from people, destroyed a large portion of the middle class and respective job market and got rightfully pissed off about it. This scared the jew bankers on Wallstreet into ramping up the war on Whites as a divide and conquer stratagem to misdirect their anger towards their main enemy. They do this shit all the time, why do you think they are forcing Muslims into every aspect of our lives and creating hatred among us? They want to destroy two of their enemies with one stone. >Yeah listen here, if you're going to "revolt" against the jew then don't go around spreading aids, doing drugs, and shitting things up while holding protest signs and crying about muh 99%. Rarely did anyone at OWS treat the situation seriously and in the end it became a big fat joke that was easily infiltrated by the jew. I don't know why you're still trying to defend them and act as if the jew subverted and destroyed them when they were always kikes. I'm not defending hippie trash at all, in fact I could care less what they actually did at the event. The point I'm trying to make is that as limp dicked as the OWS movement was, it clearly set off alarm bells in the bankster jew's head to ramp up the division and hatred among everyone, pre-OWS was a much less (albeit not safe) hostile environment for Whites in general. Since they have continued to push for more and more division, they are terrified that people may put their differences on hold to come together and get rid of the real threat. >Again there's no one to work with who doesn't share the same motivates as the jew. This is only a half-truth. There are many Whites who openly and faithfully serve the jew, and many many non-Whites aswell, but there are still other factions who share our knowledge and understanding of the true problem. >OWS never lead to gamergate, because GG was filled with a bunch of ancaps who didn't like leftists injecting their politics and ruining the market for the industry, which had nothing to do with OWS Actually it did, think about it. If OWS didn't happen and the bank jews didn't start accelerating their divide and conquer pozz harder and faster, the poising of video games wouldn't have been so blatant as to cause a reaction (GG). Trump's election came mostly from disenfranchised Whites who were sick of the communist trash they were fed everyday, they (foolishly) believed that they could vote their way out of jew hell. I'm stating that one event led to another, constant tensions rising between the dividers and Whites who sense their race and freedoms being under attack and looking for solutions. >You nazbols or whatever political leaning you are, need to stop this LARP about muh divide and unification with non-Whites or "fellow workers". There's no possible way to work with people who are completely brainwashed and have racial hate for Whites no matter what. First, I'm not a nazbol and I hate bolshevism with all of my being, but you are not seeing the big picture here. These jews want us to focus our hatred on these other groups to distract us from the real problem. There are many non-White trash who are openly hostile to us, and they can never we worked with and must be death with - but to imply that every single one is a lost cause is foolish at best. The biggest fear of the jew is people uniting across groups, across racial/ whatever lines to target them and rid themselves of their slavery and poison. They constantly kvetch about this and say shit like "it is a bad day for us when the left and right come together". Think about it, why do you think they brought the non-Whites here in the first place? Why do you think they promote sexual deviancy etc? To cause division and strife while they "suck the milk of the gentiles" like parasites while we are all fighting each other.
>>4132 (con't) >If you ask a leftoid what they thought about race and the JQ, then they're just going to say the same stupid shit about minorities being oppressed under White people and cry antisemitism. It's time to recognize that the only revolutionaries who actually attacked the banks and capitalists now were usually ethno-nationalists, because Marxists and every leftists as a whole do not give a shit about the banks. Excuse my cuckchan lingo, but I'm seeing a tremendous amount of cope from former leftists who won't admit that their views were always gay and filled with the slave moralists, because their ideals were for them this whole time. But I'm just making assumptions based on your post. There are plenty of former leftists who had the intelligence to figure out that the same jews are behind both Communism and Capitalism, and their banks funded both, as as such abandoned their previous views. It's obvious at this point that the others are a lost cause. In-fact any vocal anti-White, pro-communist group at this stage is a lost cause. However; there are plenty silent men/women of different backgrounds who don't subscribe to those views and are waiting for a chance at change, even a temporary unified movement against a common enemy. With the mask slipping and millions of normalfags seeing the hook-nose behind the curtain a perfect storm is forming where we may have an opportunity to work in unison against the jew, temporarily putting our main ethno-centric goals on hold. Just something to think about.
>>4132 >but there are still other factions who share our knowledge and understanding of the true problem. Can you list those factions? Most of those of the "factions" who recognize the JQ, are usually small and filled with very few non-Whites who don't act as subversives like /pol/ served. I don't see any non-White factions fighting kikes as much as fascists are trying to do now. I just see non-Whites and "fellow White people" working with together to undermine and fight agaisnt Whites. Again like anon said this isn't a video game, the mind to work with White supremacists only worked for men like Malcom X, because he had brains enough to realize what was going on with America, and that it was better working with White supremacists than kikes and black panther. Now no other non-White thinks like Malcom-X or spic NatSocs today.
>>4127 >Are they considered nazbol? I don't see why not if they consider themselves to be nationalists and in support of some sort of state socialism.
>>4132 >I never stated that OWS cared about White people I know you didn't say it you're missing the point I'm getting at. If unification was ever possible at hand, then is would of recognized the fierce struggle of White people. You can criticize the banks all you want, but when your entire ideals are more-so about having more butt sex and crying for minorities to get free shit without the jew needing to divide and subvert you, then there's no possible way for Whites and non-Whites who hate banks to unite against a common foe. >This scared the jew bankers on Wallstreet into ramping up the war on Whites as a divide and conquer stratagem to misdirect their anger towards their main enemy. What proof is there that this scared the jew? The jew hides and cowers behind the pigs and inside their million dollar homes, why would they fear protestors who held up signs and flags and not guns with bullets? I'm not just talking about the OWS either, but most movements that called out the banks and market were just dumb protests. >This is only a half-truth. There are many Whites who openly and faithfully serve the jew, and many many non-Whites aswell, but there are still other factions who share our knowledge and understanding of the true problem. Can you list those non-Whites and actually list the ones who are fighting against the jew in as great or greater numbers than the National Socialists? >Actually it did, think about it. Um no it actually didn't you're just making stuff up now. I don't have to think about this, because you can simply look up GG and go through all the archives of 8chan's /v/ and it was indeed mostly ancaps who did not like the direction where ethical journalism was going, due to an increasing amount of Buzzfeed-tier being written for games. GG demanding for better ethical journalism from the gaming media did not share the same goals as OWS. > If OWS didn't happen and the bank jews didn't start accelerating their divide and conquer pozz harder and faster, the poising of video games wouldn't have been so blatant as to cause a reaction (GG). Again there was literally no relation of OWS to GG being created. Ancaps hated OWS and lauded at them for criticizing and shitting on capitalism. OWS might as well not happened, because it got no one other than leftists to play pretend about how much they hate the banks and capitalism as they buy and drink Starbucks and deposit money into their ATM. >I'm stating that one event led to another, constant tensions rising between the dividers and Whites who sense their race and freedoms being under attack and looking for solutions. Lol, but OWS' spergy and degeneracy was literally one of the reasons why Whites did not like the change of cultural in 21st century America. For WN they voted for Trump, because they hopped for him to change the trends of things and make America more pro-White, while boomers disliked the direction of political correctness and disregard for Judeo-Christianity. Again OWS didn't lead to GG or the vote from Trump, it was an example of how the internet spread lies and controls the minds of people like the MK Ultra project was implemented. >These jews want us to focus our hatred on these other groups to distract us from the real problem. Yes you are correct, but you're missing my point. Non-Whites and liberal Whites are dumb enough to fall for their tricks. I mean why do you think jews are able to divide huWhites, spics, and niggers against each other in the first place? >>4133 >There are plenty of former leftists who had the intelligence to figure out that the same jews are behind both Communism and Capitalism, and their banks funded both, as as such abandoned their previous views. I know this and most of those leftists are either reactionary, fascist, or national socialist, because we're the only ones who recognize the same thing and trying to defeat them. > In-fact any vocal anti-White, pro-communist group at this stage is a lost cause. I mean pretty much, which is what I'm saying about leftists and the non-Whites who act like to play doll house with hating capitalism lol. > However; there are plenty silent men/women of different backgrounds who don't subscribe to those views and are waiting for a chance at change, even a temporary unified movement against a common enemy. I agree with this, but I'll say like >4137 said, the people who acknowledge what is actually going on are a small minority. Most women are either NPCs or couldn't care less in the world about the truth, and niggers only want free shit and the chance to chimp out and claim that they wuz kangz.
>>4185 >With the mask slipping and millions of normalfags seeing the hook-nose behind the curtain a perfect storm is forming where we may have an opportunity to work in unison against the jew, temporarily putting our main ethno-centric goals on hold. Which is pointless, because most normalfags/NPCs I've seen who have awaken to what is going on are usually young Whites and boomers who finally realized that their generation was dumb and malicious. And this is all due to the anti-White rhetoric we are facing in our countries and across the world at the same time.
>>3435 >Right, but Keith... than people that want what's best for our race. Kieth is a subversive culturally, or possibly actually, Christain faggot, he is not an Irish nationalist, he doesn't want whats best for Irish people he wants to sit on his dysgenic ass and do nothing for his people but constantly counter-signal the warriors and fighters who actually seem to be the only ones making sense these days. This is all or Nothing, it has never been anything but all or nothing! Shitskins are OKAY you say, Why are so many of them in the cities of my country, my land, land built by and for White people? Is that nigger down the street, who raped a White girl, okay? How about the spic who did the same the other way? how about the thousands now crossing the border violating our borders? Many of whom are undoubtedly agents of the cartels, who are very well organized, and because they are not suppressed at every turn like Whites are, have a damn good shot at ethnically cleansing half the southwest of everybody else once lawlessness occurs. ARE THEY GOOD? ARE THEY OKAY? The answer is no, and the ones who are back at "home" are being supported by the money the fuckers here make, in essence steal from us, and most of them actually save that money it to get here themselves through better means. The members of our race who would join you in whining and bitching about "MUH VIOLENCE" are, just like you, traitors. You and everybody like you fails to see the issue that deportations aren't going to stop shit, they know where we are, they know we have better societies than they do, and they will never stop coming! >A place for every race . . . resources of which we can just trade for. It doesn't sound nice to me, it sounds like you want to be lazy, that you want your descendants to be lazy and to fall prey to the same shit we are now again. I do not want this, I would rather see the earth burned in atomic fire than to keep seeing this disgusting state of affairs occur again and again because the weak elements of our people refuse to do what is necessary. We do not need to trade for resources, firstly because giving them anything in exchange for something we could simply take and kill those who complain about it, is detrimental to our people what are we giving away? Technology? Thats worked out extremely well for us so far. Medicine? the result of this is 1.4 billion chinks and Indians respectively, almost as many Arabs and nearly 4 billion niggers, all of which damage the environment in ways we have never done, sure we did some bad shit but we turned it around very soon after the damage was done, in most cases. Clothing? This one isn't bad per se, but it is pointless, Resources? we've done this and they squander it and use what we give them against us to hurt us, why would we continue doing so? >Like I said, . . . due to the west's pathological altruism. First, ask yourself why you think you stand against "Pathological Altruism", when you are in effect simply shilling for more of it. Also, ask yourself where it comes from, it's not natural to our people it's a symptom of a particular Abrahamic Mind Virus. Just stopping the aid to Africa would kill billions, while at the same time killing a HUGE portion of what nature is left there, as the niggers consume everything to survive. What little technology they do have would be destroyed within 50 years if not shorter, what they can't destroy would simply wear away. Asia, is not going to keep going at all, everything China specifically does is supported by the US, when it goes, china loses most of it's economy, and it will not be able to forestall things such as the inevitable collapse of the three gorges dam, which might go this year and kill about 400-800 million or so?
>>6729 >Kieth is a subversive culturally, or possibly actually, Christain faggot Keith isn't a Christian nor even culturally, he wants to be a muzzie and LARPs on this retarded lie about being anti-zion"ism" as if any of Abraham's crap wasn't zionist in itself. He is definitely a subversive, because I've never not met a nazbol who wasn't a cuck, jew, or just all-round retarded shills. The (((Dugin))) shills and apologism was a red-flag on his twitter to exposing that he doesn't take the issue with kikes seriously. >>3435 >Right, but Keith isn't saying prioritizing your group is sociopathic, he's an Irish nationalist himself Kill yourself defending an e-celeb. Keith used to be or is still possibly a (((duginist))) shill who wants to appeal to muzzies and unironically believes that they're more anti-semitic than Christcucks, despite the fact that jews hate CIs more than mudslimes.
>>6746 Kieth is culturally Christian, he follows Christian morality, being an Anti-Nietzschean dipshit. You can try and claim but his morality isn't "real christian morality" but then you would have to account for just how similar the origins of Christianity are to what is happening now and your entire argument will fall to pieces. Btw the way the Jews do not in the slightest fear the CI niggers, because they are confidential informants by and large, one need only look at the story of David Lane to confirm this.
>>6757 > Anti-Nietzschean What is his critique?
>>6758 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxRdW7KmffQ see the idiotic take for yourself, it looks like he hasn't read even half of what it takes to understand Nietzsche.
>>6757 >Kieth is culturally Christian, he follows Christian morality, being an Anti-Nietzschean dipshit Mudslimes are also against Nietzsche as well. >Btw the way the Jews do not in the slightest fear the CI niggers I never said fear, I said they hate CI and it's quite obvious why they hate them. For one, Christianity is the dominant religion among Whites and Europeans have a history of constantly killing and expelling jews, which was been done more often than anyone else. Whether the priests were sucking them off or not, doesn't exclude the fact that local peasants and nobles hated jews.
>>6760 They don't hate them either, CI niggers are a direct line from British Israelism. The CI niggers are naught but an inwardly Zionist Philosemitic Psyop that neuters the resistance of any dumbass who buys into it, very similar to bas christianity, it does this by double reinforcing the idiocy of believing "JeWsUS IS CoMIiIuNg!" and makes one, or perhaps simply reveals how one is, philosemitic by placing the jews history in place of our own, as a falsity this is a betrayal to our people of the highest order. In comparison to the outwardly Zionist and Philosemitic, British Israelism which does the same but is more open about it's intentions placing the power in the hands of the british royalty who perpetuated the straight bullshit. Christianity is shit and has ALWAYS aided the jew, few nobles were anti-semitic, most, even in many cases the vocally "anti-semitic" ones, directly aided jews in escaping the wrath of peasants, and in finding them new homes, whose ire for the jew had NOTHING to do with christianity and everything to do with the actions of jews themselves. No, the pre-christrian Romans still hold that record for both killing and expelling jews, the christains never came, and never will come close.
>>6759 Eh, I don't think Keith is 100% off the mark here. There are certain aspects of Nietzsche which aren't good, and as Keith points out, those are the aspects of his thought that have to do with relativism and the denials of things such as absolute truth and the like. Where Keith is wrong where he says this stupid shit about how the modern elites are somehow fundamentally Nietzschean in their outlook. Nietzsche was right in a lot of things. He saw this degenerate herd society coming, and he accurately diagnosed the core of Christianity and how its adherents work, especially the leftists of today. He also was right to an extent in talking about the influence of perspective on the formulation of some peoples ideas of morality. I think Keith was fairly on the mark when he was talking about how we believe ourselves to have the Truth on our side even though we are currently lacking any real financial power or elites of our own. This sort of shit about Nietzsche or Christianity being the two paths available to us is just a false dichotomy. He also makes some good points about the modern ontology and its problems.
>>6762 >They don't hate them either You're actually retarded. I swear to god ever since neuchan invaded /fash/ the braincells of this board has drained away. Jews do hate christians you moron, they hate christlovers, because they're mostly White, the bible having mention of how they're the synagogue of satan which means evil in Abrahamic context, and (((jesus))) naming his own kin for their degeneracy, which makes sense, because jews are fucked in the head. The British israelism was a LARP to replace the semeites with Europeans, not kikes being friends with christcuckery. This anti-xtian faggotry is starting to get annoying and repeitive and to an extent the mutts on this board are shitting on their ancestors, just because they're asshurt about x-tians.
>>6763 Keith is parroting better men, and poorly so, criticize Nietzsche's relativism all you want but at least be original in doing so. I, for one, don't think Nietzsche actually believed there was no such thing as Truth, there obviously is. Nietzsche seemed to me to be making a point about how it isn't exactly the truth that matters, but the story that the lesser men are made to believe, one reason he finds Christianity abhorrent is precisely because it makes the worst most disgusting men think they are noble, and that they are inherently better than the strong, and the noble who are evil and sinful in christianity simply for being strong. Moral Relativism is, at least partially, the truth morality is different depending on the situation and the people whom you are dealing with. Objective morality and adherence to it, is part of what's killing us now. The only truly objective part of morality is preserving and living in accordance with the Natural Order, this is fairly simple but can be extremely difficult to accomplish in todays world. It seems like you're telling me that on the blindingly obvious, Keith is okay but beyond that he's an idiot and begins to break down. It's not really a false dichotomy, or a dichotomy at all, Nietzsche is part of the truth and Christianity is not, one is false down to it's origin, the other seeks the truth, through denying truths existence. .
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>>6765 >I swear to god ever since neuchan invaded /fash/ the braincells of this board has drained away. /fascist/ has always more or less been redpilled on Christianity. It has nothing to do with Neuchan or Neinchan. Indeed, many of the anti-Christian posts on this board are among the most insightful. >Jews do hate christians you moron Of course they do. An assassin does not drink his own poison. >they hate christlovers They would love for more White people to be good little Christians, worshiping a Jewish god and following the slave morality of the Bible. It would effectively neutralize them as a threat if Whites were to do so. >because they're mostly White Most Christians today are brown mud-people. Christianity is literally exploding in Africa. >the bible having mention of how they're the synagogue of satan which means evil in Abrahamic context The oft-quoted 'synagogue of Satan' bullshit is a meme. What it speaks of is 'those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.' So wait, they're not really Jews? This means that a Jew was calling another group of Jews fake Jews, which is apparently an insult. Do you believe you are a Jew? I hope not. >This anti-xtian faggotry is starting to get annoying and repeitive and to an extent the mutts on this board are shitting on their ancestors, just because they're asshurt about x-tians. You shit on thousands of generations of your ancestors when you reject their gods and their traditions. Even above that, you side with the demon Yahweh against the true God, who is not a Jew, and who is the true power behind this universe.
>>6766 Regarding what you say on Nietzsche and Truth, this is certainly possible. I would have to go back and read some things first to make any sort of firm conclusion on the matter. >Moral Relativism is, at least partially, the truth morality is different depending on the situation and the people whom you are dealing with. What you describe here is totally reconcilable with systems of objective morality. The traditional concept of Dharma or a Cosmic Order in Indo-European systems of spirituality was exactly as you describe. Different groups and types had different roles within the Whole, according to their own particular natures. Dharma is remarkably context-sensitive. It is at once a cosmic, eternal principle at the general level, but corresponds to a plurality of different laws and duties within human societies. >Objective morality and adherence to it, is part of what's killing us now. The only truly objective part of morality is preserving and living in accordance with the Natural Order, this is fairly simple but can be extremely difficult to accomplish in todays world. I would say here that false pretensions at objective morality is what is killing us. People pretend that it is objective, but it is far from this, very far. Indeed almost everything society considers wrong / evil today on the social level was seen as normal and natural just a little over a century ago (think different roles for the two sexes, the fact that races are real, to name a few). True morality is indeed expressed in the Laws of Nature. It is objective in that no one, no matter who they are, can escape its justice, though the blowback is not always immediately discernable >It seems like you're telling me that on the blindingly obvious, Keith is okay but beyond that he's an idiot and begins to break down. Haha, perhaps so.
>>6765 >You're actually retarded. I swear to god ever since neuchan invaded /fash/ the braincells of this board has drained away. And you're a shill, before neuchan existed you niggers said Nein, and before that, you probably bitched about 8/pol/ or some other fucking place, Not only is >>6768 completely correct but you added a layer on top of that showing who you are. >Jews do hate christians you moron, they hate christlovers, because they're mostly White. This is false on both fronts, Jews do not hate christains, they love them, because all of them even the CI niggers(whom I was referring specifically to in my previous post) are their slaves, and the vast majority of christians are niggers and other various non-Whites, like South Koreans who are mandated to read the Talmud in school and somehow this hasn't lead to them killing jewish businessmen in Korea. >The bible having mention of how they're the synagogue of satan which means evil in Abrahamic context, and (((jesus))) naming his own kin for their degeneracy, which makes sense, because jews are fucked in the head. Setting aside that jesus never existed. the Synagogue of Satan would have been in his eyes, were he to have existed, Whites or any other goyim who followed jewish religion or, as the CI niggers do, larp as jews. So, the "Synagogue of Satan" is the Catholic and Protestant churches peppering the planet, as well as any, non-jewish christians. >The British israelism was a LARP to replace the semeites with Europeans, not kikes being friends with christcuckery. This is a lie, the British Israelists were literally run around and by a member of the royal family and they were OPENLY Zionist and Philosemitic, even a cursory amount of research would show this which just reveals you haven't even looked. >This anti-xtian faggotry is starting to get annoying and repeitive and to an extent the mutts on this board are shitting on their ancestors, just because they're asshurt about x-tians. I have walked the lands of the dead in my dreams and in deep meditation. Most of my ancestors who were nominally Christians, are in the Nordic realms, with Othinn and the other Aesir and Vanir. They know the mistakes they made and also had forced on them in life, those who were Christian in full, truly sincerely "christian", those who truly became the race traitors the doctrine of christianity demands they become, are not there. where they are I know not, but I get the feeling they are but husks being fed upon by the jewish god. I will continue to shit on those ancestors who betrayed the race as christains and those who were only nominally so, are not insulted, because in death they know the truth.
>>6771 >/fascist/ has always more or less been redpilled on Christianity This has nothing to do with the fact that neucucks are on here with their retarded cuckchan lingo and 24/7 asshurt about christlovers. And you're lying, because /fash/ had a some christians. > It has nothing to do with Neuchan or Neinchan. It has everything do with you low IQs, because OG /fash/ wasn't this annoying and spergy. >Most Christians today are brown mud-people Most Whites today are still christians, so you're not making point. > What it speaks of is 'those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.' So wait, they're not really Jews? Yes that's the entire point of why Jesus cried about them in the first place. His entire revolt was against supposed "new jewry" that was a case of how Israelis truly became decadent. The old jews beforehand were not a threat of the Aryan until the Greeks and Romans conquered most of West Asia and became world powers. Otherwise they were just stealing and doing their typical shittery in the Middle-East along with harmful trades that got Whites to hate jews and avoid doing trade with them. But the war against jews didn't began until Alexander conquered and his successor states occupied Jerusalem. >You shit on thousands of generations of your ancestors when you reject their gods and their traditions LOL you're an idiot, I'm not christcuck. Also it can be said for you as well, because you fools call anyone who worships Yahweh and Jesus a retard, not realizing this also includes your family-lines who have been christians for centuries. You're shitting on your ancestors as much as they do simply, because they aren't apart of your grand LARP that no one on this board actually practices or really care about at all as some of you samefag a fake opposition as if they would would ever come on this board after seeing the constant bitching about Abraham in each thread. Fucking idiots.
>>6771 >And you're a shill >I-if you don't agree with everything I s-say, then you're a shill! >before neuchan existed you niggers said Nein, and before that, you probably bitched about 8/pol/ or some other fucking place, All of those place are fucking shit and filled with actual shills and faggots like yourselves. You constantly come on this board only to say repetitive stuff that has already been said and understood. The low quality posting needs to stop and the subjects need to change for actual solutions. >This is false on both fronts, Jews do not hate christains, they love them >because all of them even the CI niggers(whom I was referring specifically to in my previous post) are their slaves, >which is why jews sided with mudslimes in every conflict against christians and Europeans >which is why they constantly bitch about muh expulsion being unjustified after CIs got sick of their shit >which is why they love mocking the kike on stick and hate everything about him and refuse to recognize him as a prophet >which is why they kill and torture x-tians in Israel >modern christianity hasn't subverted into full-blown Judeo garbage >Europeans have always been slaves of jews and never attacked the jew back during the age of christcuckery Like I said you're retarded. >This is a lie, the British Israelists were literally run around and by a member of the royal family and they were OPENLY Zionist and Philosemitic They were openly zionist and semites in their own sense of the word, because they were already pretending that they were true semites. You tell me that I should do research, but wikipedia agrees with me and there's no reason to lie about absolute retardation on the part of the British who hated their non-Abrahamic Anglo-Saxon heritage, to make such a dumb lie just to empower christian identity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism >Adherents believe that the Twelve Tribes of Israel are the twelve sons of the patriarch Jacob (who was later named Israel). Jacob elevated the descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh (the two sons of Joseph) to the status of full tribes in their own right, replacing the tribe of Joseph. A division occurred among the twelve tribes in the days of Jeroboam and Rehoboam, with the three tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and partially Levi, forming the Kingdom of Judah, and the remaining ten tribes forming the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria). Thus, they argue, "the great bulk of Israelites are not the Jews". W. E. Filmer, writing in 1964, suggested that the fact that some Jews continue to search for the ten lost tribes implies that their representatives are not found among modern-day, multi-ethnic, Jews.[31] A number of British-Israelites quote Josephus in order to support their claim that the lost tribes of Israel are not Jews: "the entire body of the people of Israel remained in that country; wherefore there are but two tribes in Asia and Europe subject to the Romans, while the ten tribes are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude." >Parfitt suggests that the idea of British Israelism was inspired by numerous ideological factors, such as the desire of ordinary people to have a glorious ancestral past, pride in the British Empire, and the belief in the "racial superiority of White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, and Aikau characterized the movement as being "fundamentally about providing a rationale for Anglo-Saxon superiority. To Kidd, its theology represents a "quasi-heresy," which serves to "blunt the universalist message apparent in the New Testament. Its role in fostering anti-semitism in conservative Protestant Christianity has been highlighted, along with its role in fostering a feeling of "racial chauvinism" which is "not always covert". >I will continue to shit on those ancestors who betrayed the race as christains and those who were only nominally so Except most christians didn't betray the race and were pretty racist and kept their ancestors traditions in the end to abide by the eternal truth that even x-tians cannot ignore. If you don't believe me, then you can look at how the Anglo, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks treated muzzies and African slaves.
>>6807 >kikepedia agrees with me Sure thing
Same poster as before btw. Not on tor. >>6806 >24/7 asshurt about christlovers. And you're lying, because /fash/ had a some christians. Retards like you are why Christianity is constantly talked about here. Christianity is a subversive form of Jewish death-conditioning. It’s as clear as the sky is blue, therefore when some retard comes and starts spouting this pro-Christian nonsense they ought to be called out for it as many times as it takes. I’m sure there are Christians here, but they’re afraid to get debunked by pagan anons because to put it bluntly we can’t be debunked. The arguments are clearly on our side. I’ve argued this stuff hundreds of times and have never gotten a satisfying response. >/fash/ No one calls the board this, because it’s not the board’s name. You are likely an outsider. >Most Whites today are still christians, so you're not making point. Yes, most Whites are Christians nominally, just as they adhere to other similar subsersive doctrines such as democracy, liberalism, egalitarianism, cultural marxism, anti-racism, atheism, etc. Christianity is just another form of Jewish mind-virus killing our people. And it is a religion for mud people and slaves. >His entire revolt was against supposed "new jewry" that was a case of how Israelis truly became decadent. Jesus didn’t revolt against shit. He was just another hippie jew preaching apocalypticism who was critical of the Judaism of the Temple. Many Jews were such as John the Baptist and the Essenes. These people still despised goyim as animals, foresaw their destruction and hated Aryan Rome (See: Essene ‘war scroll’) I will warn you now, any verse about Jesus whipping people in a temple, or referencing swords are all about Jewish prophecies and have nothing to do with actual violence and bloodshed, so don’t even waste your time quoting them at me, especially when these gospel accounts were written decades after Jesus’ supposed life and death, making them meaningless and horrible sources. >I'm not christcuck. You’re dangerously close to be a traitor to your race with how you defend this Jewish death cult. You should get the same treatment as if you came in here and started shilling for anti-racism (‘ugh, come on, so many Whites are anti-racist, we can’t repudiate this doctrine!!’) >you fools call anyone who worships Yahweh and Jesus a retard, not realizing this also includes your family-lines who have been christians for centuries. They were forcibly converted by the elites. They were victims, and were mostly illiterate peasants who didn’t know better. I pity them, truly. People today have no excuse. They have the ability to READ and LEARN the truth about (((Christianity))) and what it has done to our people. We no longer have to be enslaved to this foreskin-hungry demon. OUR ABRAHAMIZED ANCESTORS WERE FORCED TO WORSHIP A “GOD” FROM THE DESERT, A LIE, A DECEPTION, YET YOU EXPECT US TO PERSIST IN FALSEHOOD???? >your grand LARP that no one on this board actually practices or really care about at all Keep coping. Abrahamism is false. Yahweh is a demon and literally exists. The gods literally exist. There is a God. The pagan picture of reality is 100% in line with the world around us. >Fucking idiots. Jesus was a jew btw
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>>3490 > I do not think that any board has had to move as much as /fascist/ has since the end of 8chan. I'm going to one up you. All the pedo boards since the dawn of 4chan. 7chan,12chan and 8chan that all literately started as sanctuaries for them. Two enemies hunted by the same system often ended up taking shelter on the same platforms. When one became censored you knew something was up. 8chan changed when it started banning boards and it didn't start with anything /pol/ related.
>>6818 Under a fascist system pedophiles will be hunted down even more ruthlessly than they are today.
>>6819 I've stopped watching porn because if that reason alone. Porn made me to be way too desensitized to the point where anything goes in my brain. Mind you, I never saw CP in my life. And yet my brain does the intrusive thoughts bullshit. (Yes I was the guy in the QTDDIOT thread). So far, my worries have lessened. The thought appear from time to time but I've put my thoughts into my studies and videogames more often. If the urge to gap ever happens, I'll try to not watch porn instead and use imagination. But holy shit, the fact that I can resist it for almost a week now is interesting.
>>6826 Sorry for any spelling errors, was on a rush.
>>6826 >>6827 Glad to hear you from you again and to hear that you are doing well and making progress, anon. Keep it up.

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