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QTDDTOT - Questions That Don't Deserve Their own Threads Blackshirt 03/14/2021 (Sun) 18:52:11 ID:cac026 No. 5
If you have a one-liner question that won't generate much discussion and isn't related to moderation or requests, or want to post something of interest to /fascist/s but doesn't deserve a thread, post it ITT.
Why were there so many splits in NS/ Fascist movements post 1945? Isn't the situation bad enough as it is? Why should petty differences have gotten in the way of the people?
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>>21 It's a good question. You think many more people would realize this same thing. I think a major of the problem is definitely inflated egos. Everyone wants to be the little Fuehrer of their group, and if they don't get their way, they spend all of their time trying to undermine the group or splitting off and starting their own group, or spending all of their time quarreling with other groups because they compete with the leadership of their own. It's ridiculous and pretty sad. If they were just to work together, a leader would emerge naturally. We never saw Hitler tearing everyone around him down like people have in the more recent past or even still today. He cooperated with them, and eventually the lesser men were all sidelined and Hitler emerged as the one superior leader over them all. People need to leave their ego at the door. I'm not saying to be a meek faggot, but to realize that we have greater issues we need to be focusing on and infighting or vying for supremacy over all other groups constantly is not a worth the time.
Are there any countries for the White man to move to?
>>45 Moving won't fix our problems, unfortunately.
>>47 I'm aware, but there's no hope at all for the country I live in right now and I'd rather not stay here.
One of the main concerns the normfags always bring up, against regimes, is that even an ideal regime would have control of the media which could lead to unwanted consequences. How does NS deal with the possibility that the control of media could possibly lead to negative consequences such as those of 1984?
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>>49 This is a question which will have no real satisfying answer. The real answer is that even in so-called "democracies" and the like, there is an inordinate influence on the media and means of communication / information by both government and the ultra-rich. They are no better, in fact likely worse, than the influence of a state would be in the damage they do people, not to mention that these people are able to use their control to influence the masses and push specific agendas. This is especially clear nowadays with Google, Twitter and other forms of social media. It's the same with NBC, Fox News, CNN and the like. Most of these are already under the control of a handful of companies, therefore a handful of people. The unsatisfying answer is that we need to count on having good people at the top. It's not impossible, but neither is it something that can be counted on. Someone is going to have to control the lemmings though. In the Third Reich there were still different newspapers and the like, but as I understand it they were subordinated to Goebbels' Propaganda Ministry who for certain articles dictated certain guidelines that had to be followed, and exercised basic oversight over the media. Non-compliant businesses would be fined, or given new management, etc.
>>52 Seems to me like there is room for thought, or maybe the solution is making the media less prevalent in society, as the emphasis on industry was lessened under the Third Reich. Hopefully a more read anon can come by and refer us to a concrete answer. >relying on good people I believe this is one of the most appealing and unappealing parts of NS. The idea of being able to act selflessly while relying on the selflessness of others seems like an idea romantic enough to belong to a libtard. Yet under NS it looked to be realized. I think one way they did it was by making corruption, and selfishness, irrational and making the opposite logically beneficial. The use of labor for the state as a currency may reflect this. Maybe there was no need for the Third Reich to put much thought into the media because of their faith in their people. Even so, I think this answer is still unsatisfying because it's visionary.
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>>53 It's important to acknowledge the obvious here first and foremost that NS isn't promising us a utopia in the way that communism and other modernist ideologies are. We can recognize what works, but we can't fix human nature. It's possible that there really is no perfect answer to this question, but I think you're right that there is probably some room for thought here and I look forward to seeing if any anons can provide any good ideas here regarding that. I think you're definitely onto something though when you say that making corruption, selfishness and the like unprofitable and making the opposite profitable is very important. Our current system celebrates reckless selfishness, individualism and corruption, but that is because this is a key feature of the system at its bedrock. It's all about making the biggest gain of shekels, owning the most stuff, and saying 'fuck you' to everyone else. Alternatively or along with some of the aforementioned things is ingraining these sorts of ideas deeply into the people. It needs to become second nature, not just what people say because they are afraid of losing their job or something. It would have to be something quasi-religious almost. And NS was already almost this in the first place. There are very good reasons why so many have drawn comparisons between ancient paganism / Dharmic traditions and National Socialism, and indeed, why Hitler chose the Swastika in the first place.
>>45 I wouldn't bank on it. Remember what the most vile rabbninical hook nose inbreds said: "We will make a world where there is nowhere the Whiteman can be White". Stand your ground and prepare to fight.
What about threads on anoncafe ? They will be transferred here or we need need to screencap them manually ?
>>49 As the previous anon pointed out, no system is perfect. The main problem here is motive. To ensure that government officials serve the nation's people, I suggest weekly killings of government agents proven to be self-serving. I also suggest the wages of the higher government should be just enough to survive.
What would be a good resource for learning about the economic system that the NSDAP utilized, my main interest is their tax system and rules for businesses.
>>58 The admin of Anon Cafe was not cooperate over email. Both myself and members of the staff here on 16chan emailed him and he failed to respond. I believe one guy emailed him several times. They don't want to help, so last time I asked one of the guys here on the status of whether we would get our threads or not, it felt like to me that we won't be getting our threads, but they still seem to be doing what they can and haven't outright told me know. So if we are not able to get the threads it will not be for a lack of effort on anyone's part. We don't need to screencap everything, just archive good threads and maybe post the archives in the active threads here, or remake the OPs of some of the threads you'd like to have here. In the event that we do get our threads, none of the threads here will be deleted, at least so I've been told, so don't feel any need to hold back in posting.
>>63 I would recommend looking into Adam Tooze's 'The Wages of Destruction' for a good book on the economy of the Third Reich in general. I just posted a PDF of it in our reading thread if you want to check it out. It's quite the tome. Tedor's 'Hitler's Revoltion' might touch on some of this stuff too. Have not read that one though, but that seems like something one would find in there. >>65 >>66
>>58 >>64 Looks like everything is archived on Mar.16 https://archive.fo/oAJh5 https://archive.fo/https://anon.cafe/fascist/* So just a couple threads new replies can be updated tomorrow. Note: If/when board is deleted and media files are wiped from server, only thumbnails will be available on archive.fo Might want to locally save some images, videos and/or any relevant OC
>>74 Good to hear and see that anons have been busy archiving everything. I was pretty surprised earlier when I saw that stuff I was intending to archive had mostly already been done. Let’s hope this will be a smooth and comfy transition
>>5 I didn't think any of this would be worthy of a thread in and of itself so I'll ask here: What exactly do the authoritarianist and totalitarian aspects of fascism imply? A total cast off of personal rights and harsh police states as so many liberal thinkers say? Or have the words been twisted from their original meanings/been made to seem so much worse? What's expected of a citizen under a fascist regime?
>>21 >why would an already fragmented movement split after getting its ass kicked in a bloody war and becoming enormously unpopular? Gee anon, it's a mystery.
>>85 >What exactly do the authoritarianist and totalitarian aspects of fascism imply? Authoritarianism just means that we value and understand the naturalness and necessity of authority. History is not made by the masses, the masses are by-and-large passive participants led from above. With this principle in mind, the overriding importance of competent and natural authorities should become readily clear. Wherever the leaders go, the people will follow. We have seen the many, many flaws of democracy, and we repudiate the whole system. No one is entitled to have their voice heard just because they have two legs, two arms and are vaguely human-shaped. This is the least impressive and most common fact about a person and it does not entitle them to anything when it comes to governing. Totalitarianism in its true and original sense refers to the organic unity of the nation. Organicism is an ancient principle that can be found in the political works of Aristotle, in the Rig-Veda and even in the thought of Hegel. Depending on who is asked, this will be a more or less literal or a helpful metaphor that allows us to think of the nation. Let us picture a human body. This body is composed of cells. These cells are of different types depending on function, organized into different tissues and organs all with different functions. The body functions as a unity, it is hierarchical in the sense that it has 'government' of the brain over the lower functions of the limbs, etc and it is also interdependent. The brain is absolutely vital, but it depends on the good-functioning of the other parts of the organism. There is a division of labor. What we see here, in a sense, is a community that is united, hierarchical and interdependent, and harmoniously so. This is essentially the ideal Volksgemeinschaft, the ideal ethnic nation, functioning as a functionally-differentiated hierarchical organic unity. This is what totalitarianism truly means. This is what jews want to destroy. They are a virus. They want to disrupt the healthy functioning of the national organism by turning it against itself. They are like a cancer. >What's expected of a citizen under a fascist regime? They should be ready to do their part and cooperate as a part of the greater whole of the nation if needed. This really isn't that much different than what is implicitly implied in every nation or state, but the difference is here that we want to encourage this sort of attitude. I don't mean absolute selflessness, merely something superior to the out of control and rootless individualism today. As discussed here >>56 there must be a balance between self-assertiveness of individuals and the overriding importance of the nation. An individual can be cast off if need be, but this should not be done lightly. When push comes to shove, the apple is less important than the tree though. The tree can make new apples. The video I have attached is the perfect encapsulation of this.
>>90 Thanks a million for the detailed answer anon! I'm liking fascism more and more every day.
>>98 Glad to help, anon. It's definitely important to inquire into the exact meanings of certain terms, because oftentimes they have been twisted and stretched overtime. A good example of this is with the word Fascist itself, as I am sure you are learning.
>>28 >little Fuhrer C-cute
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>>104 They shouldn't be underestimated
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>>90 1. Do folks on this forum admire Juche Korea? 2. Do people here read the anti-Christian animal-loving César Tort/Chechar? 3. Is there an archive of this imageboard anywhere? For example, I browse 4chan almost exclusively via 4plebs and archived.moe, I honestly hate the transient and chat-like nature of imageboards as I'm mostly a lurker and prefer to get to know the place first, at least.
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>>145 >1. Do folks on this forum admire Juche Korea? It probably depends on what sense we're talking about, really. The DPRK has undoubtedly done a good job so far of shielding its citizens from many aspects of modernity, and many people might like the ideas of self-reliance and militarism supported there. One just has to compare them with South Korea. South Korea is known for its American occupation, degeneracy like Kpop, feminist cults, the fact that more people own Talmuds than there than jews do in Israel, etc. It's an utter hellhole. >2. Do people here read the anti-Christian animal-loving César Tort/Chechar? There has been discussion of him before, yes. >3. Is there an archive of this imageboard anywhere? For example, I browse 4chan almost exclusively via 4plebs and archived.moe, I honestly hate the transient and chat-like nature of imageboards as I'm mostly a lurker and prefer to get to know the place first, at least. No archive like 4plebs, unfortunately. We have these from old boards: https://web.archive.org/web/*/8ch.net/fascist/ https://web.archive.org/web/*/julay.world/fascist/ https://web.archive.org/web/*/anon.cafe/fascist/
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>>146 Regarding your first image - it is interesting how often discussions involve arcane ideological points, books, etc. Whereas I would prefer watching the film montages and debating real-world implementations. I.e.: 1. Juche is literally sun-worship - judging by the Korean propaganda montages. Nowhere else have I seen so much sublime footage of the sunset/sunrise. 2. Juche cannot be separated from the figure of KIM IL SUNG-taewonsu, his anti-Japanese struggle, his defeat of the atomic bomb with a rifle in hand. KIM IL SUNG to Korea is what jew Jesus is to America, and what Hitler was once to Germany. 3. The USSR was effectively a White ethnostate - which perished due to its Christian past, the connection with America that led to its withering. This artistic view is what I believe is missing in the West. From this point, I will, paradoxically, excuse Hitler more for not burning churches - because people who literally shoot the jews in the head are less Christian than those who merely destroy churches while proclaiming the idea of universal brotherhood of man, of Galilean love.
>>172 I think you're pretty solid here on most of your points, but I just can't buy the idea that the USSR was any form of 'White ethnostate'. It's true that full-on Communism in the long run seems to have been less immediately destructive than unfettered liberalism and capitalism was to America and Western Europe ("Communism rots the body, liberalism rots the soul"), but the USSR was never pro-White in any way. In the 1920s and 1930s the USSR even tried to lure blacks from America to settle in the Soviet Union. And if I remember correctly, several hundred at minimum did actually leave the US for Russia. And towards the end of the USSR, if I am remembering correctly, the demographics were gradually tipping away from the Slavic core to the more peripheral nationalities and their Republics, especially the Central Asian / Muslim ones. It might depend on how you're defining ethonostate. When I think of the term ethnostate I think of something like the Third Reich, where the nation is built around the preservation and flourishing of one group. In the USSR it seemed Russo-centric in many ways, but not dedicated to the preservation and future of the Russian people particularly.
>>172 > The USSR was effectively a White ethnostate - which perished due to its Christian past, the connection with America that led to its withering. You lost me there. The USSR was from it's inception a JEWISH controlled state. They murdered and killed off most of the high-caste Russians and enslaved the rest. They sent the best men to die in Afghanistan, and into Chernobyl. Sound familiar?
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>>172 >The USSR was effectively a White ethnostate - which perished due to its Christian past, the connection with America that led to its withering. Lol fucking retard. Start reading.
>>176 > They sent the best men to die in Afghanistan, and into Chernobyl. Sound familiar? What nonsense are you spewing? Whilst the USSR was by no means a "White ethnostate", or some other bizarre notion, it was not by any means "anti White" or "anti Russian", or "anti Slav", or any such bullshit. The ethnic Russian population was ALWAYS given preference, it was exported to all corners of the Soviet Union, with the open objective of replacing and diluting the ethnic make up of constituents such as Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Latvia, and so on. Lmao man, what are you even insinuating here? That the Afghanistan invasion, as well as fucking Chernobyl, were some elaborate scheme played by the "ruling jews", to weaken the Russian stock of the Union? Is that your fever brained point?? It's all too easy to desire a simple explanation and polarized world view, but the reality is infinitely more nuanced.
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>>181 It was sporadically anti-Slav. During the Revolution itself, of course, and during the collectivization of agriculture, and events such as Holodomor which killed millions upon millions of innocent Slavs. And then at the very end the jews liquefied the whole venture and bought up everything and became powerful oligarchs in the new Russian Republic. The dawn of capitalism in Russia after the dissolution of the USSR was just another form of genocide, as can be seen from the fact that the life-expectancy plummeted, drug use went through the roof and the living standards fell dramatically. Many young Russian and Ukrainian girls were even sold into sex slavery in Israel. It's not 100% black and White, you're right though.
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>>181 >The ethnic Russian population was ALWAYS given preference, it was exported to all corners of the Soviet Union, with the open objective of replacing and diluting the ethnic make up of constituents such as Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Latvia, and so on. I can't tell if you're genuinely retarded or disingenuous but either way you're posting literal cope. Holodomor 11 million Ukrainians murdered by 2 jews isn't preference. And an additional 30 million to 60 million were murdered by Gulag and executions since 1917. In-fact Putin had to ban organizations who were finding and digging up mass graves and exposing more deaths because the entirety of the jewSSR was literally a giant death slave camp. Literally even slaves in Rome had it better.
>>183 It was tangentially "Anti-Slav", that is to say, if certain Slavs didn't play ball, or were an obstacle to a certain objective, the leadership would decimate them. They would do the same with any other people group, this is not a result of some "anti-Slavic" ideology, or any aversion to the "European race", but simply a pragmatic showing of brutality for some gain. Just look to Stalin's deportation and ethnic cleansing of the entire Muslim population of the Caucasus, or any other initiative aimed at the "non-Indo-European" constituent of the Union. Russification was the always the objective for the Soviet leadership, from the ethnic jews who started it all, to the final days of the Union. I think you get it over all, but most don't.
>>186 Just addressed this short sighted garbage in the above post
>>188 Lol you didn't, and you're completely delusional if you think you can get away with this pozzed offhand shilling for smelly soyviet kikery here you dumb faggot.
>>192 Okay you simple minded yokel, care to address even a single point I brought up? The USSR was a shithole, of course, an ideological wasteland of spiritual decay and filth. Regardless, if you want to try and portray it in a way that is simply false, people will call you on your bullshit every single time, unless you are in the most isolated echo chamber of 14 year old "National Socialists" who haven't even read Mein Kampf. You're not doing the movement any favors by engaging in this simple minded historical interpretation of polarization, that is to say, USSR BAD BCUZ WUZ COMMIE AND JEWUSH Truth always wins
>>181 > That the Afghanistan invasion, as well as fucking Chernobyl, were some elaborate scheme played by the "ruling jews", to weaken the Russian stock of the Union? Is that your fever brained point?? Yes it is. You're a retard for not knowing otherwise. It's widely known that the Chernobyl incident happened during a "test", where they deliberately overloaded the reactor and disregarded regularly followed safety protocols. The reactor also had a known design flaw. The regular workers tried to stop the chief from doing it, but he silenced them. After the event he was not punished for his crimes and got off the hook scott free. Taking into account the ethnic hatred the Soviet jews had for Ukrainians it's quite convenient that such an event was allowed to happen on Ukrainian soil and all safety protocols were thrown to the wind. Also conveniently happening right when Pripyat was becoming more densely populated. Then of course was the sacrificing of the young reservists to intense radiation poisoning. Afghanistan is more of the same jewish bullshit; a pointless war to disrupt the middle east and take over resources - a war which America repeated after the same soviet kikes fled to America after they destroyed Russia. They use and discard nations at will to accomplish their goals, but mainly nations that have White blood to use and abuse.
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>>196 Let's see >Ideology created by a jew who never worked in his life >447 jews in bolshevist central government officials in 1919 >First thing half-jew lenin does is establish GULAG while claiming to be "for the workers" >But in reality the minority 2% jews rule >jews go around trying to communize Germany and fail(lol) >All this time get admittedly funded by wall street banker jews like Olof Aschberg and Jacob Schiff >jews outlaw private property and "redistribute" all property(steal) >jews "collectivize" and "equalize" the masses into equally poor slaves(except the party bosses and their children) >Good goy stalin specifically make anti semitism punishable by death >2 jews Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Moischewitz Kaganovich kill 11 million Ukranians by deliberate starvation >The same jews intentionally create low trust society where everyone rats eachother out >jews kill people for even the rumor of disagreeing with this >Slavemongering jews keep millions working to death every year just to build bullshit projects like the volga river canal and other useless garbage in siberia >jews proceed to kill 30-60 million slavs >This subhuman society fails on it's own just 46 years after WW2 >..... (you) >"Umm listen guys I never read a book but communism is relevant they're really pro White guys!" Lol no, just kill yourself tranny Communism is literally just Globohomo 2.0 you dumb fag
>>196 Speaking of simple minded yokels, what's with the reddit spacing buddy? You don't really fit in here well with your pro-commie shit. Infact, it's eerily similar to the pro-CCP chinkbot shitting up /pol/.
>>201 Whatever you say comrade, the efforts you must endure to jump through these insane mental hoops is remarkable. However, it is amusing to ponder the sequence for this bizarre fancy. So the evil jews who ran the Soviet Union at the time of Chernobyl, decided to purposefully engender a nuclear disaster, with the desired aim of weakening the genetic quality of Ukrainian residents? Furthermore, the emergency respondents were also a part of this brilliant scheme, as the jewish lords of the USSR, no doubt took delight in their exposure. All according to plan baby! As for taking any number of infinitely more sane, EFFICIENT, and logical methods of destroying the Ukrainian people, the Soviets instead decided to engage in this insanely elaborate, nonsensical plan. And then of course the Afghanistan invasion, this was of course not the result of geopolitical initiatives, but instead an equally convoluted scheme to "bleed the White race". >>202 >Communism is literally just Globohomo 2.0 you dumb fag Hey retard, I'm not arguing against any of this, what fucking conversation have you been reading? How you come to the conclusion that I've been shilling for the "great and wonderful USSR" is beyond me.
>>203 >You don't really fit in here well with your pro-commie shit. Holy fuck you lads are beyond retarded. Your hearts are in the right place, but I'll be damned, a historically nuanced view of reality is seemingly beyond your capability.
>>204 >Whatever you say comrade, the efforts you must endure to jump through these insane mental hoops is remarkable. However, it is amusing to ponder the sequence for this bizarre fancy. So the evil jews who ran the Soviet Union at the time of Chernobyl, decided to purposefully engender a nuclear disaster, with the desired aim of weakening the genetic quality of Ukrainian residents? Furthermore, the emergency respondents were also a part of this brilliant scheme, as the jewish lords of the USSR, no doubt took delight in their exposure. All according to plan baby! As for taking any number of infinitely more sane, EFFICIENT, and logical methods of destroying the Ukrainian people, the Soviets instead decided to engage in this insanely elaborate, nonsensical plan. And then of course the Afghanistan invasion, this was of course not the result of geopolitical initiatives, but instead an equally convoluted scheme to "bleed the White race". If you had the IQ points and perception to understand, even remotely, how deceptively insidious jew are and how they create consent and context to murder Gentiles without arousing suspicion it would make sense to you. Even now with this "health crisis" and "Great Reset" shit they are doing the same thing; using a fabricated, coercive lie to trick gullible idiots into going along with it, legitimizing it, enforcing it, and murdering people. This is what THEY ALWAYS DO, and it was no different in Russia, or France, Germany, or America. The only difference is that Russia was the place they honed their methods, practiced and perfected them on the Russian/Ukrainian populations. jews have done many different types of genocide, one of their favorites is deliberate famine, as you know. But they exploit ANY disaster to accomplish that goal without exposing themselves to discovery or hurt.
>>204 >And then of course the Afghanistan invasion, this was of course not the result of geopolitical initiatives, but instead an equally convoluted scheme to "bleed the White race". It was for both bleeding the White race, and their own person geopolitical "initiatives". They started the disruption of the middle east using proxies with Russia, then moved to America. Look at the middle east now, almost entirely under their control.
>>206 In the case of Chernobyl, you're taking your initial premise, that jews are responsible for all major misfortunes, and working BACKWARDS to rationalize this insanely contrived view. Again, I commend you on the cognitive dissonance that must be required to justify this utterly nonsensical narrative to the events of Chernobyl. But really, it's just a case of profound ignorance. Like I say, your heart is in the right place, you oppose the jew, cool. But you have come to warp history to satisfy this narrative, and it's simply not necessary or beneficial. You are doing the movement ZERO favors by spreading the message that "JEWS DUN CHERNOBYL GUYS!!!" Point to reality, point to fact, point to reason, we don't require this bullshit. >It was for both bleeding the White race, and their own person geopolitical "initiatives". Come on man... If they wanted to bleed the White race, why sponsor the program of Russification and ethnic displacement/replacement of "non White" groups in Central Asia, Siberia, and so forth. This is simply a garbage argument. Again, you are desperately working backwards to validate this non existent narrative that the Soviet Union was in the business of eradicating its' "White population", when literally nothing points to the idea that this was an objective. Any case study you can pull out of your ass, no matter how obviously a result of other objectives, can be utilized to validate this phantasmal narrative. The Holdomor - was it the result of putting down a dissident, non compliant population? No, it was of course an attack on the White race. Chernobyl - nuclear accident? No, it was of course an attack on the White race. >Look at the middle east now, almost entirely under their control. Woah you said something close to true! Yes, only Syria has well and truly resisted the prospect of normalization with Israel, as well as the compromises that come with it. Iraq could also completely flip the other way, as Iranian influence may continue to grow.
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>>205 >change ip >still no arugment >backpedaling >"UMMMM You're just not being NUANCED enough yeah that's it! To entertain my completely bizzare disproven faith based belief that jewSSR was some kind of le ebin pro slav and le pro White guythe! Zillions died and it's documented with zillions of mass graves(unlike the holocaust which to this day no mass grave has been found) but OMG it wasn't all like taht trust me guize." You're retarded and coping, jewSSR was literally just a kike globohomo slave-state in 20th century and after it fell most jews just changed political hats and emigrated to America and committing the same evil there with a twist of genocide as we speak. Of course you're not told about this anywhere because it would mean the Allies directly collaborated with people that were ten times "worse than Hitler" even though the allies created and perpetuated a fuckton of literal atrocity propaganda about Germany like "Burning Belgians" and "Atomic Vaporization of jews" and not to mention le 6 Billionz. Regardless they still cannot admit that to the public even to this day how bad Russia was under the jews.
>>209 >In the case of Chernobyl, you're taking your initial premise, that jews are responsible for all major misfortunes, and working BACKWARDS to rationalize this insanely contrived view. Again, I commend you on the cognitive dissonance that must be required to justify this utterly nonsensical narrative to the events of Chernobyl. But really, it's just a case of profound ignorance. Like I say, your heart is in the right place, you oppose the jew, cool. But you have come to warp history to satisfy this narrative, and it's simply not necessary or beneficial. You are doing the movement ZERO favors by spreading the message that "JEWS DUN CHERNOBYL GUYS!!!" Point to reality, point to fact, point to reason, we don't require this bullshit. You haven't disproved any of my points, only ridiculed them. How can one work backwards to rationalize a point when it's well established that jews created and controlled the USSR from it's inception? They aren't responsible for EVERY misfortune, but they are for a good number of them, especially the ones that have a direct effect on European and Slavic lives, family, culture, history, and wellbeing. >Russification and ethnic displacement/replacement of "non White" groups in Central Asia, Siberia, and so forth. Does this really surprise you? What do you think the West was doing in the 20th century? in the 19th? It's for acquiring resources, installing banks, and using Whitey to do it for them. Then they will turn around and shame them for hurting those poor "non-Whites". Russia just inst at that stage for jew induced destruction yet.
>>209 >Any case study you can pull out of your ass, no matter how obviously a result of other objectives, can be utilized to validate this phantasmal narrative. That is entirely the point, you idiot. The jews are master obfuscators and misdirectors. The deliberate create situations they can escape blame from. >The Holdomor - was it the result of putting down a dissident, non compliant population? No, it was of course an attack on the White race. It was an attack on Ukrainians, which jews have a deep ethnic hatred for. Ukrainians are part of the White race, so yes it was. >Chernobyl - nuclear accident? No, it was of course an attack on the White race. A nuclear accident that was deliberately orchestrated. Go and look into it, because I doubt you know any specifics. Conveniently it also killed alot of Ukrainians, and destroyed the lives or many more. No coincidence at all.
>>210 Like I say kiddo, your heart is most likely in the right place (although you have that subtle reek of a subversive shill), but when it comes to discussing the historical reality, you're fucking hopeless. Not everyone requires to understand the extremely nuanced reality of history, especially that of the somewhat bipolar (in many respects) USSR. In fact, it only leads to confusion when presented to most right wing nationalist types, unsurprisingly and quite rightfully so. I mean look at you, screeching utter nonsense. Hey, if demonization of the USSR is part of your agenda to spread whatever version of dissidence you uphold, whether it be National Socialism, racial awareness, whatever the fuck, go for it, most people will probably buy into it and help the cause, despite some historical ignorance here and there. It doesn't really fucking matter. This here, is simply an exercise in historical analysis. If you want to chime in, in that regard, let's start with you explaining in detail, how the Soviet policy of Russification, makes any sense according to you.
>>213 >That is entirely the point, you idiot. The jews are master obfuscators and misdirectors. The deliberate create situations they can escape blame from. It's just same bullshit man. Working backwards to justify a predefined narrative. If you cling to this narrative so tightly, I'm fine with just letting you have it. Sure, it makes us all look a little bit more retarded and desperate, like a schizophrenic seeing phantoms where there are none, but whatever. Any shenanigans which certainly did go on, in the case of Chernobyl, are automatically designated as being the contrived scheme of "anti Ukrainian jews", in your mind. Likewise, any case in Soviet history where White people died, is also applied to this same narrative. How the countless examples of Russification, destruction of non White ethnic groups, etc, makes sense in your mind, well, who fuck really knows. But sure, I do know the specifics of the Chernobyl case, and it's just funny to see the mental gymnastics you play to apply all of it to this narrative. It's an interesting case to be sure, and like I said, shenanigans were afoot there. Anyhow, jew=bad should be expressed, just as USSR=bad should be as well. I just wish we could all be a touch more sane and rational about the subjects.
>>216 >I just wish we could all be a touch more sane and rational about the subjects. We'll need to do a lot more reading of primary sources to get there. Unfortunately that takes a lot of time and energy. But it's a worthy goal.
>>219 Worthy, but perhaps unlikely in this medium. Keep it to the memes and shitposting for this place perhaps...
>>212 >How can one work backwards to rationalize a point when it's well established that jews created and controlled the USSR from it's inception? >Does this really surprise you? What do you think the West was doing in the 20th century? in the 19th? It's for acquiring resources, installing banks, and using Whitey to do it for them. Then they will turn around and shame them for hurting those poor "non-Whites". Russia just inst at that stage for jew induced destruction yet. Ah, looks like I missed these earlier. Ok, so you’re taking one thing, and desperately warping it to conform with a bizarrely contrived view. You take the factual policy of Soviet Russification, and work backwards to somehow conflate it with your predefined fucking premise that “Soviet want Whitey dead”. And yeah buddy, ethnic jews made up the leadership of the early Soviet Union - NO ONE IS DEBATING THAT. But if you think that simple and obvious observation validates your subsequent nonsense, well, shit luck. It’s the same garbage with you, every single time, with every single point you try to make. There is no cohesive argument or substantial evidence, only an endless tide of secondary CONJECTURE, and your own worthless interpretation of historical trends which seemingly go far beyond your understanding. “The Soviets did x thing, but heres’ why they REALLY did it”... Where is the clear, concise, and compelling evidence for this apparent “agenda” of the Soviet ruling elite? Well it doesn’t exist of course! They must be real sneaky buggers! Just like all of those creepy crawling “crypto jews” who ran the middle to late Soviet Union, right? I guess Brezhnev pushed his hooked shylock nose in really hard to make it less obvious, and all that nasty business with Israel was a clever Rabbinical ruse as well, right? Or was he simply a puppet for certain unnamed “hidden masters”, perhaps Rothschild? Fuck, I better not get you started, keep your historical delusions, it doesn’t matter all that much, as long as your weapon is pointed in the correct direction. Still, your desperate, dishonest, and worst of all, entirely unnecessary effort to warp history for the fundamental narrative we actually share, is simply pathetic, and deserves a bit of ridicule, at least. Your rhetoric works when it comes to validating the historical biases of simpletons and yokels in this thread, but when approached with any rational enquiry, or god forbid, honest historical analysis, it fucking collapses utterly, just like the 6 gorillion myth of the other side. Your beliefs are the most contrived, artificial, and frankly false historical narratives anyone could make up, well, apart from the Allied propaganda (that has of course been enforced since the end of the war), regarding the nature of the Third Reich and National Socialism. The whole Chernobyl thing is just baffling, all I can do is laugh at the insane sequence you have created in regards to that event. I can truly imagine the calibre of websites and literature which gave you the inspiration to concoct that narrative. It’s frankly sad to see the same garbage technique, that being, WORKING BACKWARDS TO CONFIRM A PREDEFINED AND CONTRIVED VIEWPOINT, which is applied to such horrendous effect against NS Germany by the mainstream, be utilized by the likes of you. Retards will still interpret all of this as me shilling for the USSR, no matter how many times I tell them it is a horrendous and degenerate regime. But hey, retards want reality to be black and White to satisfy their simple minds. The Soviet Union was not “good” for Slavic Russian people, even despite the policy of Russification! The USSR promoted deracination, materialism, and a disgusting economic conception of life, just as its sister-ideology capitalism did in the West, under a different guise. But hey, again, most people have no need whatsoever to delve into the historical nuance. Simply let them be driven to a virtuous goal, and overall adequate ideological state, by propaganda. You think the common Wehrmacht soldier needed to understand any of the nuance regarding the USSR? Fuck no, it was an enemy to be destroyed, nothing more. This discussion, however, at least attempted to achieve a deeper understanding, primarily out of sheer curiosity. But of course, the driveling autistic clowns drag everything down into the muck.
>206 >jews doing genocides If it meant genociding shitskins then idc. >muh one and only immoral desert enemy Go make me a sandwich.
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>>221 You're really grasping at straws here for anything at this point. You've been pilpuling and shilling for a slave ideology nonstop pushing buttons and then you literally try to cry when people have actual arguments telling you how wrong you are and how diseased your failed kike ideology is? Lol. Nuanced? Word of the day. What is there nuanced about USSR? Russia was back then was literally an inescapable shithole and is still a shithole run by the same post dissolution russian mafia oligarchy (((2% people))) but with different hats and a bit less bloodthristy today, the streets were flowing with blood in the 90's as power consolidation happened and jewtin now replaces Russians especially in moscow with a bunch of cheap labor muslim nonWhites from the east going along with the hooton/kalergi plan today. >muh russification If Stalin had this transient idea of preserving his White slave caste in Russia for a time does it make stalin "based" he wanted a smarter caste? He didn't need to care as he killed anyone for disagreeing so what a childish manner of thinking. >Hey, if demonization of the USSR is part of your agenda to spread whatever version of dissidence you uphold, whether it be National Socialism, racial awareness, whatever the fuck, go for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz8afvfbY8E&list=PLC860A0D2560FF880 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN2j07UfGaI Yeah we demonize the jewSSR exactly because it was a demon. That is an historical fact.
>>235 I mean at this point it's gotten almost pointless, as you aren't responding to any points, or addressing my argument in any meaningful fashion. > You've been pilpuling and shilling for a slave ideology nonstop This is exactly what I predicted you would do in my last post. You retards seemingly can't process a rather simple and clear historical analysis, because it goes just a little bit beyond the screeching bullshit of fever brained interpretations and unfair oversimplifications. Never have I once shilled for the USSR being a "good" place. Its' ideology, I have condemned at every turn. All I take issue with, is the unimaginably retarded historical claims which some people have been making, regarding the nature of the USSR. And of course, my complete dismantlement of these insane narratives, have gone ignored, and now you resort to petty ridicule and misrepresentations. So alright, you desperately try to write me off as a Soviet shill, or some other bizarre notion (it's simply laughable), when in reality, I'm a National Socialist who's simply trying capture a more ACCURRATE AND FAIR assessment of the enemy. History is not simple and clean, your pathetic oversimplification of the situation, whilst understandable, actually does us no favors, because it's fucking wrong and retarded. >If Stalin had this transient idea of preserving his White slave caste in Russia for a time does it make stalin "based" he wanted a smarter caste? He didn't need to care as he killed anyone for disagreeing so what a childish manner of thinking. Faggot, I can tell you either didn't read, or couldn't understand my previous posts. Have I argued even once for Stalin being "based", or any USSR policy being "good"? Nope, I have simply argued against retarded oversimplifications, and contrived conjectures, which retards in here have been spreading. >Yeah we demonize the jewSSR exactly because it was a demon. That is an historical fact. Yeah I'm fine with you holding that, and in general I agree with it. The USSR was a demon, it was a horrific regime which had a jewish ideology at its' very fucking heart. Just like its' incestual twin ideologies of capitalism and neoliberalism in the West, it's all rotten to the core. It's not even a particularly "nuanced" view I am proposing, simply one which goes a bit beyond ridiculous oversimplification and dishonest arguing methods. I get it, we want to show the USSR is the "bad guy", great, but let's do it without pulling shit out of our ass. We DO NOT NEED to resort to complete and utter historical retardation, to support our views. I mean, have a read through some of the schizo babble posted in here. A clear and concise rejection of the USSR, based on compelling and substantial arguments, beats this Chernobyl garbage every day of the week. In regards to your take on modern Russia, it's the same oversimplified peasant drivel, that we have heard from shit-tier sources for years. Oh yes, I can tell you have a very firm grasp on contemporary Russian society and politics, with this ever no nuanced analysis about the "Russian mafia oligarchy running everything".... Pathetic Like I say, honest historical analysis, or fucking analysis in general, is not for everyone. Simply point your weapon in the direction of the Enemy when the time comes, that's all your simple minded ass is capable of, and that's perfectly fine.
>>145 I did not send you this way so you could namefag Adunai, don't be obnoxious.
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>>237 I'm reading what you wrote here and we're adressing you but you're just attacking us for not being "open minded" lol. >So alright, you desperately try to write me off as a Soviet shill, or some other bizarre notion (it's simply laughable), when in reality, I'm a National Socialist who's simply trying capture a more ACCURRATE AND FAIR assessment of the enemy. History is not simple and clean, your pathetic oversimplification of the situation, whilst understandable, actually does us no favors, because it's fucking wrong and retarded. So what did I write here that was not accurate and fair about the jewSSR? >I'm a National Socialist Doubt >Faggot, I can tell you either didn't read, or couldn't understand my previous posts. Have I argued even once for Stalin being "based", or any USSR policy being "good"? Nope, I have simply argued against retarded oversimplifications, and contrived conjectures, which retards in here have been spreading. You were literally sitting here making strange sycophantic claims that ethnic Russians were given "preference" by jewSSRites when they were killing tens of millions of them, and in a time where a national identity was normal everywhere painting this as some good boy factor which is utterly laughable BS. >We DO NOT NEED to resort to complete and utter historical retardation, to support our views. I mean, have a read through some of the schizo babble posted in here. A clear and concise rejection of the USSR, based on compelling and substantial arguments, beats this Chernobyl garbage every day of the week. I don't see it. Only 1 person ITT claimed this and he's entitled to his opinion, USSR did not give a fuck about it's people. Hence why they were trying as hard as they could to close the lid on Chernobyl to the point of cutting telephone networks. It's a cruel reality that, in their desperation to save face, the Soviets were willing to sacrifice any number of men, women and children in Chernobyl as over 500 Hiroshima bombs of radiation spewed out of the plant. >In regards to your take on modern Russia, it's the same oversimplified peasant drivel, that we have heard from shit-tier sources for years. Oh yes, I can tell you have a very firm grasp on contemporary Russian society and politics, with this ever no nuanced analysis about the "Russian mafia oligarchy running everything".... Pathetic After the kike union failed people were scrambling to get on the free market, it was complete chaos, mafia oligarchs who started first in Perestroika got powerful while running rackets in public markets, they were creating banks, swindles, pyramid schemes, same mafia hoarding up state given stocks and assets from regular people, gang shootings, several years of bloodbath in the streets for power consolidation over the assets of the previous system that failed. Look it up. The same "Russian mafia" is heavily jewish with many living in Israel and strong ties to Israel, the Russian-jew kikes were so scummy that even the jews in Israel had to deal with them a couple of times. Many of those same bosses who survived at the top from Perestroika are oligarchs now. And a lot of the most powerful Russian oligarchs are jewish. Just do some research you uninformed tranny and stop larping lol, it's fucking embarrasing. We can have a discussion about everything but not your jaded whataboutism tier bullshit where when you get disproven the only thing you can do is shout that we're "uninformed" etc which is fucking hilarious.
>>241 Haha, after you foolishly claimed I was "backpedaling" earlier (when in reality you simply failed to understand a single point I make), it is amusing to see you backpedal so, so very hard now. Your attack on me literally makes no sense, the fact that you're even arguing with me is simply pathetic, and you're starting to understand that. >I'm reading what you wrote here and we're adressing you but you're just attacking us for not being "open minded" lol. Nah buddy, i'm attacking you for supporting a dishonest argumentative method and retardedly oversimplified historical narratives. >So what did I write here that was not accurate and fair about the jewSSR? Was that not you droning on about Chernobyl and Afghanistan? Haha my mistake, guess there are a few retards around. Regardless, your overall attitude of dismissal and oversimplification, ie, USSR BAD CUZ JEW KILL WHITEY, is the issue. Again, I'll restate that such a simplified historical narrative might be just fine for most, and I fundamentally agree with it, but under a proper historical analysis, the situation becomes infinitely more murky. I understand this can upset the preconceived of polarized peasants like you, who want to categorize everything in a crudely simplistic fashion, but it is what it is. >You were literally sitting here making strange sycophantic claims that ethnic Russians were given "preference" by jewSSRites when they were killing tens of millions of them, and in a time where a national identity was normal everywhere painting this as some good boy factor which is utterly laughable BS. You can misrepresent my points all you want, it's not doing you any favors. It is an undeniable fact that ethnic Russians were given "preference" by the USSR, Russification was very real indeed. I have already explained again and again how this apparent "preference" was a double edged sword, as the fundamentally degenerate nature of the USSR, overrode any apparent "benefit" to the Slavic people Russification may have presented. But this historical nuance is seemingly beyond your understanding, and that's fucking fine, there is no need to delve into this shit for you. > It's a cruel reality that, in their desperation to save face, the Soviets were willing to sacrifice any number of men, women and children in Chernobyl as over 500 Hiroshima bombs of radiation spewed out of the plant. You fucking buffoon, I agree with ALL OF THIS, I was simply arguing against the insane, schizo interpretation of the other retard. Regarding your little rant about the Russian Mafia, I agree with a lot of what you have to say. If you want to explore the matter of contemporary Russia down the line, I'd be happy to. For now, suffice it say, the Russia of today is very different from the Russia of the 1990's... I should know, I've lived there for a decent chunk of my life, and studied its' history for much longer than that. >Just do some research you uninformed tranny and stop larping lol 'Just do some research bro'? Are you an actual 12 year old child? When have I once been "disproven"? Forget it, there's no point delving into the petty bullshit. You should know by now that your argument is completely worthless. You're arguing against points that I HAVEN'T EVEN MADE, lmao it's actually pointless!
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>>248 >Nah buddy, i'm attacking you for supporting a dishonest argumentative method and retardedly oversimplified historical narratives. Which is what exactly? >Was that not you droning on about Chernobyl and Afghanistan? No newfag >Haha my mistake, guess there are a few retards around. Regardless, your overall attitude of dismissal and oversimplification, ie, USSR BAD CUZ JEW KILL WHITEY, is the issue. Again, I'll restate that such a simplified historical narrative might be just fine for most, and I fundamentally agree with it, but under a proper historical analysis, the situation becomes infinitely more murky. I understand this can upset the preconceived of polarized peasants like you, who want to categorize everything in a crudely simplistic fashion, but it is what it is. Dismissed what? Some of your all-over-the-place subjectivist dogma? That the jewSSR was a total shithole bringing unprecented subhumanism hour long food queues to all of eastern Europe is a factual assessment. I offered the names and dates and specific events too of what I talk about which you can do your own research on easily and all you do just repeat bullshit like "you're misrepresenting" and that we're "uninformed" for taking you up on your "nuances"(lol). >USSR BAD CUZ JEW KILL WHITEY Yes you fucking retard. Marxism/Communism is literally a false rebellion against the "capitalist" and "bourgeois" both which are under jew control. There isn't much nuance in that. >You can misrepresent my points all you want, it's not doing you any favors. It is an undeniable fact that ethnic Russians were given "preference" by the USSR, Russification was very real indeed. I have already explained again and again how this apparent "preference" was a double edged sword, as the fundamentally degenerate nature of the USSR, overrode any apparent "benefit" to the Slavic people Russification may have presented. But this historical nuance is seemingly beyond your understanding, and that's fucking fine, there is no need to delve into this shit for you. How are you getting misrepresented, and why is this point so important for you? You claimed jewSSR gave their russian slave caste a preference, which I agreed with for a fixed time(as was the norm in every country in those days), which means it is by no means special or unique to jewSSR and so that point is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. <Oh yes, I can tell you have a very firm grasp on contemporary Russian society and politics, with this ever no nuanced analysis about the "Russian mafia oligarchy running everything".... Pathetic >Regarding your little rant about the Russian Mafia, I agree with a lot of what you have to say. If you want to explore the matter of contemporary Russia down the line, I'd be happy to. For now, suffice it say, the Russia of today is very different from the Russia of the 1990's... I should know, I've lived there for a decent chunk of my life, and studied its' history for much longer than that.. Ok then why did you need me to write this to you? Russia was and still is a shithole, almost everyone and everything is dysfunctional and bleak, suicide rates through the roof drug addiction is a pandemic. No other ideology than Communism made it so, and no-one else can be blamed because the Communist jews killed Tsar Nicholas and his entire family in 1918. >'Just do some research bro'? Are you an actual 12 year old child? When have I once been "disproven"? Forget it, there's no point delving into the petty bullshit. Scroll up my friend. It's not what I call being right or arguing in good faith here.
>>216 And you've done nothing to disprove my claims other than write an entire paragraph as to why you don't like them. Brezhnev not having a hook nose means he isn't a jew or a shabbos goy? LMAO Go and study jewish facial features and how to identify them and come back, kiddo.
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>>216 ITT: retard doesn't know what a jew is
>>248 >I fundamentally agree with the simplified historical narrative <but under a proper analysis the situation becomes more murky Which is it? If the situation is more complex than the simplified narrative makes it out to be, why do you fundamentally agree with it? Or do you only mean that you agree with it as a fact but you're more concerned with minor details like whether Russia was anti-White or not? If the overall crux of his argument is correct - that the USSR was shit - there is no need to peck at petty details about a decades-dead historical enemy (the USSR specifically, I mean). As for why he thinks you support the soviets or think Russia was secretly "based" or whatever, probably has to do with the way your first posts came off as "defending" the USSR even though you weren't, really. Probably, they're burgers (I am also) and it's ingrained in them that if you aren't explicitly against them, you must be explicitly on their side and vice versa.
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>>174 >Communism in the long run seems to have been less immediately destructive than unfettered liberalism and capitalism Isn't it the opposite? It is precisely the end goal of Communism to destroy all statehood in individualist anarchy. And it was the opposition of the bourgeois empires that made Russian statehood harden... Until the Christians took over in 1991 by "bringing peace". >When I think of the term ethnostate I think of something like the Third Reich, where the nation is built around the preservation and flourishing of one group. Hitlerian Germany was first and foremost a genocidal war machine hell-bent on murdering tens of millions of foreigners for a Lebensraum. Calling it an ethnostate is a disservice. (I'm not a Christian, therefore, this description is flattering to my ears. The Soviet Union had the right to kill every last German, and build the foundation of their Slavic empire on bones for millennia to stand.) >>179 Can you explain what was so bad about the post-WW1 German Communism? The Freikorps established the Weimar Republic! Do you support Weimar? In my view, if the jews have a good idea and the Aryans don't, it is not a commendable situation. An alliance with Russia against England would have been glorious. >>183 >and events such as Holodomor which killed millions upon millions of innocent Slavs >>186 >Holodomor 11 million Ukrainians murdered by 2 jews isn't preference. And an additional 30 million to 60 million were murdered by Gulag and executions since 1917. The Holodomor is far more fake than the Holocaust. There was a mild famine, just as it had happened for centuries. The population of Russia grew, Ukraine was at its demographic peak of 53 mil. in 1993 - since then, 20 million died/emigrated, and you capitalist pigs are not mentioning it. Hitler killed 27 mil. Russians in the war. It's all on Wikipaedia, and if your info is worse than that den of homosexualists, you should be ashamed. >>196 >The USSR was a shithole, of course, an ideological wasteland of spiritual decay and filth. And yet the Soviet Union died because it did not fully break ties with the filth of its far more degenerate neighbour - the US of America. And why was there a striving for peace? Because the deeply-Christian Russia could not bring herself to hate with all her gut the faggots of the Occident. Unlike the mighty DPRK who can hate. >>201 HBO's Chernobyl is some of the biggest faggot lie in Hollywood. A female scientist warning that a nuclear power plant could explode like an atomic bomb? A party member threatening to throw a scientist out of a helicopter? And by the way, the Chernobyl disaster barely had any negative impact at all. >The Chernobyl Forum predicts that the eventual death toll could reach 4,000 among those exposed to the highest levels of radiation (200,000 emergency workers, 116,000 evacuees and 270,000 residents of the most contaminated areas); this figure is a total causal death toll prediction, combining the deaths of approximately 50 emergency workers who died soon after the accident from acute radiation syndrome, 15 children who have died of thyroid cancer and a future predicted total of 3,935 deaths from radiation-induced cancer and leukaemia. I'll say even more, if the Soviet Union had still been healthy, they would have pronounced as an immense success the evacuation of the 50k Pripyat inhabitants, and then 100k more. >>202 > Communism is literally just Globohomo 2.0 you dumb fag The homosexualists were considered criminals and promptly imprisoned in the USSR. >>207 >They started the disruption of the middle east using proxies with Russia, then moved to America. Look at the middle east now, almost entirely under their control. Wait, now this is cuckoldry. The greatest sin of America after the immigration policy of Polish jews and Negroes has been the policy of not using their nuclear arsenal to exterminate all non-Aryans on the planet.
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>>255 You still don't understand my argument, and yes, you are completely misrepresenting it, which is simply baffling considering how many times I have stated it over and over. My issue is with retarded, contrived, dishonest, and half baked historical narratives, which are unnecessary and detrimental. How many times do we have to go over this? So when I say that you're misrepresenting my argument, this is what I mean. Just a couple posts ago, you were trying to say that I was "shilling for the USSR". I get that you've tried to backpedal now, but this demonstrates an important point. You misinterpreted simple and honest historical analysis, with shilling for Communism or some shit. This simple minded polarization is fucking tiresome, but you've back pedaled now because you realize that you're talking out of your ass. I think you actually get it by now (unless you're a genuine nigger), but your petty ego has resulted in the continuation of this shit fest, you fucking fag. >Marxism/Communism is literally a false rebellion against the "capitalist" and "bourgeois" both which are under jew control. There isn't much nuance in that. AGREED RETARD! The ideology itself, the fundamental nature of the USSR, is completely rotten and degenerate, no questions asked, no nuance necessary. HOWEVER, the actual HISTORICAL PROGRESS of the USSR, has demonstrated clear and obvious nuance, in terms of the severity, direction, and general nature of this fundamental wretchedness. That's what this conversation was about, it was meant to dispel some petty, half baked historical "opinions", which try to create an unfair, inaccurate, and pathetically oversimplified narrative, and open the door for honest, calm, and level headed analysis. Screeching at the top of your lungs about the EVVVVVVILLLLL of the USSR, and crudely dismissing any and all opinions which offer a slightly more developed view, is simply counterproductive, unless your goal is to appeal to the most simple minded of peasants. Likewise, latching onto the most retarded narratives imaginable, like the other fuckwit did with Chernobyl, Afghanistan, etc, is simply insane. We don't need these unverifiable, historical fantasies to condemn the USSR, or any historical regime. Once again, a calm and concise appraisal, which leaves all this screeching absolutist bullshit at the door, is the better option. >That the jewSSR was a total shithole bringing unprecented subhumanism hour long food queues to all of eastern Europe is a factual assessment. Hey clown, have I been denying this at all? What the hell exactly do you think you're arguing against here? Holy fuck. >Russia was and still is a shithole Overall, sure, along with the rest of the world that is. However, there are interesting undercurrents flowing in Russia right now. But fuck, what's the point of getting into that. It's probably too "nuanced" for you, right, haha! But yeah, I'd be shocked to hear that you've stepped a single foot into Russia, or have any understanding of it beyond shit-tier sources online. But hey you never know. >Scroll up my friend. It's not what I call being right or arguing in good faith here. Yep, still waiting on you to actually demonstrate a single case where I was "disproved", you fucking coward. "Scroll up" eh? Lmao. Just give it up already, I think you understand by now how futile and misinterpreted your earlier attitude was.
>>275 >Which is it? If the situation is more complex than the simplified narrative makes it out to be, why do you fundamentally agree with it? Or do you only mean that you agree with it as a fact but you're more concerned with minor details like whether Russia was anti-White or not? Just addressed this in my last post, but yes, my issue is with horrifically retarded, oversimplified, and unnecessary historical narratives they spin to validate this fundamental narrative, one which I actually share with them! These are not "minor details", these are entire historical constructions which are simply false. The schizo babble and crude interpretations actually DETRACT from a true interpretation of the USSR, in regards to just how horrible it truly was. It makes it into a joke almost, because of how simplistic and retarded it is. > Probably, they're burgers (I am also) and it's ingrained in them that if you aren't explicitly against them, you must be explicitly on their side and vice versa. FUCKING HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD BUDDY Holy shit, sometimes the Burgers are just too fucking much, and they need to just go back to the Mcdonalds and shut the fuck up
>>285 I'd advise simply ignoring this disingenuous clown.
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>>285 >It's all on Wikipaedia
>>285 >It is precisely the end goal of Communism to destroy all statehood in individualist anarchy. This is just utopianism. The state will never be destroyed so long as there exist organized human societies with large populations. The state naturally arises in any human group with over 150-200 people. Marxist Communism and individualism are not even opposed, as they are both natural products of jewish industrialism. Individualism is the natural result of the destruction of natural organic communities and the herding of rootless cosmopolitan workers into urban areas. It is not even true individualism in a paradoxical sense, as the modern individual soon falls prey to advertising, media propaganda and other forms of mass hysteria. Communism and Capitalism are two sides of one shekel. >Hitlerian Germany was first and foremost a genocidal war machine hell-bent on murdering tens of millions of foreigners for a Lebensraum. Calling it an ethnostate is a disservice. Even if your ludicrous description of the Third Reich was true, it's still more of an ethnostate than the jewSSR ever was. >The homosexualists were considered criminals and promptly imprisoned in the USSR. That has nothing to do with what he said. The USSR was fully commited to globohomo, i.e. GLOBalization and HOMOgenization. They were a subversive internationalist force that helped non-Whites around the planet destroy their own cultures and kill millions of their own people in resentment-fueled bloodbaths, ultimately speeding up their (((development))) and preparing them for integration to the jewish internationalist web. >>288 Some bait is too delicious to ignore
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>>294 Evola was a delusional schizo idealist. Here are Chechar's points, but my position is that by rejecting biology as the basis of this material reality, he's a Christian by definition. A libtard/Marxist. Whatever, same shit. One is either a racist materialist, or a suicidal traitorous idealist. https://chechar.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/buddha-evola/ https://chechar.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/was-evola-one-of-us/ >It is not even true individualism in a paradoxical sense, as the modern individual soon falls prey to advertising, media propaganda and other forms of mass hysteria. 1. Juche Korea has an urban population alongside strong communal solidarity. 2. What's wrong with media propaganda? That's precisely the job of the propagandist - to create a cultural climate conducive to killing foreigners and having children (racism). You are talking like a nihilist from the movie They Live (1988) - "all advertisement is bad". >Even if your ludicrous description of the Third Reich was true[...] Are you one of those who deny the Holocaust in its entirety, and the genocidal nature of NS Germania? >They were a subversive internationalist force that helped non-Whites around the planet destroy their own cultures and kill millions of their own people in resentment-fueled bloodbaths Helped... to *destroy*? Am I following you? 1. First, both the Americans and the Russians aided in the survival of the niggers, bred niggers like rats everywhere they went. Even Kampuchea. Had the Americans behaved like normal people, not a single Cambodian would have survived... 2. Even if we take your ridiculous statement as true - are you actually supporting non-White niggers on this forum? You want their societies to flourish? You possess no blood craze against their swarthy nations in India, Iran, LatAm and Africa? (I love Korea because I desire the death of America above all.)
>>297 Desiring the death of nations that aren't your own above all is not a nationalist perspective. It seems to me that you are fervently anti-American rather than pro-anything.
>>221 >You think the common Wehrmacht soldier needed to understand any of the nuance regarding the USSR? Fuck no, it was an enemy to be destroyed, nothing more. And wasn't it a tragedy? Do you consider WW2's Ostfront an ideological fight? Because I view it mostly as a boring Russo-German struggle. Of course, one side had purer blood, and the other was so diseased, it could not hold onto the victory. But the spirit of Hitler was German nationalism first, unfortunately. I won't deny that a German victory would have yielded sublime results for the Aryan race. But a subversive work against Western Christianity in peace-time would have been less risky. This is why Vichy France is potentially the most curious part of WW2. A case of an Occidental land freed from Christianity. Our discussion here is about that - the total victory of Jesus, and what can be done after it, in this most hopeless timeline. (I think anything can happen only after America dies, one way or another. Fortunately, it is killing itself quite fast these days. I hope the Chinese finish the job.)
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>>297 >Evola was a delusional schizo idealist. Not an argument. I couldn't care less about Evola himself, the substance of his quote is the truth. >One is either a racist materialist, or a suicidal traitorous idealist. This supposes that materialism is true, which is not even clear. >Are you one of those who deny the Holocaust in its entirety, and the genocidal nature of NS Germania? No, I don't believe the lie that there was a systematic and planned effort to totally exterminate the jewish race. >You want their societies to flourish? I'm neutral. If they are not interfering with White interests I could not care less how they are doing. >You possess no blood craze against their swarthy nations in India, Iran, LatAm and Africa? I don't feel blood craze against them, no. First and foremost I want to secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. Anything that must be done to achieve this goal will be done, period. The invaders will removed, and our nations of cleansed of subhumans either peacefully or violently depending on their reactions. When it comes to non-White lands, theoretically I would not care what they do once they are kicked out, but large-scale depopulation of some areas might be necessitated in the future due to overpopulation of Africa, India and similar non-White countries. This is more of an extension of the 14 Words, securing an existence for our people, more than any sort of 'blood craze', though it is in a sense killing two birds with one stone. Many of the Chinese may need killed off as well, because they are one of the greatest threats to our people alongside the jews. >>300 >Do you consider WW2's Ostfront an ideological fight? N, it was a necessity for the German Volk
>>294 >Some bait is too delicious to ignore Haha sure thing burgerbuddy, you're certainly NOT just using the ranting of this creature, as a distraction from my previous dismantlement of your critique regarding my arguments... swept under the rug quite abruptly eh? Hey, since we're all going full on retard, I'll ignore my own advice and entertain this schizo. >>300 >Our discussion here is about that - the total victory of Jesus, and what can be done after it, in this most hopeless timeline. Lmao, on second thought, fuck that... this is simply too retarded, and given the fact that I just spent a day or two arguing with actual American children on an internet board, regarding the nature of the USSR, that's fucking saying something.
>>299 >Desiring the death of nations that aren't your own above all is not a nationalist perspective. 1. The idea of JEW-given borders for your JEW-given country is pure Christian cuckoldry. Swords are your borders. 2. Nationalism is quite a pernicious idea, especially in our time. Shouldn't the last Aryans band together or something? That's what I try to draw on my maps - the last survivors. 3. Even nationalists were trying to genocide other nations once, what are you on about? >It seems to me that you are fervently anti-American rather than pro-anything. 4. It is true that I'm black-pilled - but only when it comes to Korea continuing intelligent life on this planet and beyond, in O'Neill cylinders. 5. While hating America, the murderer of the last tangible Aryan hope, is completely natural. The USA can be of any use only after a Piercian revolution - and that is not happening. 6. I would like to be pro-Aryan. But Aryans don't want to live. Not a single rotten country. Not even Belarus. This is why the only optimistic outlook is civilisation-centred cuckoldry to the Mongoloids - with the added delight of a nuclear annihilation of America, fingers crossed. (If the Koreans/Chinese cuck out before 2100, I will admit I was wrong and last intelligent life indeed died in 1945 CE. Although maybe transhumanists are right, and cold fusion will bring forth the god-golem of Heisman.)
>>303 >Haha sure thing burgerbuddy, you're certainly NOT just using the ranting of this creature, as a distraction from my previous dismantlement of your critique regarding my arguments... swept under the rug quite abruptly eh? I'm not the guy you were arguing with, the last post I made about the USSR was here >>183
>>305 >I'm not the guy you were arguing with Alright i'll take your word for it... although the usage of identical terminology was somewhat of a giveaway. In that case, I await my true comrade's response!
>>304 >I am black-pilled Then you are a loser and a waste of breath.
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>>301 Those images are interesting, thanks. Yes, I recognise the German need for a Lebensraum. No, I do not think it was the main threat. Why is America dying now? Because of Christian/liberal axiology of universal love towards niggers. This love is so pernicious, they are actually doing it for real - importing millions of non-Whites, letting their women be fucked by apes, and so on. This is where geopolitics stops - when actors keel over and die of their own volition. And no, Hitler was wrong - Juche Korea has successfully maintained independence amongst three giants. Rockets and atomic weapons have helped. >This supposes that materialism is true, which is not even clear. Philosophical idealism is the hatred of the world, is Christianity, is self-hatred, is collective suicide, is the rejection of Beauty & Order. Philosophical materialism is the acceptance of reality. But what is the basis of reality? - Blood. Without an actor, there is no action. Liberalism emphasises individual rights to debauchery, Marxism champions the fixation on economy - to the rejection of the survival of the nation. Conjuring some other nonsense about spiritual values the way Evola does is one more bunk idealist garbage ideology. >First and foremost I want to secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. As long as a single foreigner survives, their existence will be imperilled. This is why I consider the logical progress of history in the triumph of one race alone. This is why Chechar's genocidal fantasies grounded in his hilarious compassion for non-humans is more in line with my ideals than your pacifism. https://chechar.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/dies-irae/
>>311 >Philosophical idealism is the hatred of the world, is Christianity, is self-hatred, is collective suicide, is the rejection of Beauty & Order. I don’t see how it follows. Idealism is just saying that something mental / spiritual is the ultimate nature of reality. Nothing about this logically implies hatred of the world, the self, beauty or order. One might even say that it could be the exact opposite. Materialism leads one to believe that they are a fortuitous and ephemeral collection of atoms that will be dispersed and annihilated upon death, and that ultimately we’re just monkeys living on a space rock moving through an empty lifeless void. No one could accuse me here of “denying life” or revealing my hatred of all reality, but I’m just quoting what I’ve read others say and how people who believe this think. Why is it that the most degenerate period in human history is also the most materialistic? For 99.9% of human history people believed almost the exact opposite as what is forced onto people today—I’m not just referring to Christianity, as it goes far beyond this—and they didn’t end up in some globohomo hellworld >As long as a single foreigner survives, their existence will be imperilled That’s just silly, and calling my position pacificism is even more so.
>>99 As time goes I am indeed learning that, but then I'm having my perceptions of what fascism is changed and challenged every day. I've been trying to learn, reading literature, and find myself often confused when what I learned in the past (and learned for myself more recently) ends up challenged. It's an interesting path but I'm excited to keep learning
>>240 Who is this nobody and why is he shitting up our board?
>>326 Reading books is definitely the best thing to do. One can learn a lot through the Internet but once one really hits the books they will rapidly become far more redpilled than most people online. >>332 He comes from some non-White Mexican’s blog who for some reason tries to tell WNs how they should be acting (because he cares about, right??)
>>285 >This user was banned.
>>337 I've noticed. I read A Squire's Tale yesterday and near the end I sympathized with the character who'd met the travelling Fascist because I felt the same way as him. Fascism has a great draw to me but for some reason I'm held back. I don't know if it's a difference in values, or methodology, or if I'm not yet ready to accept I was wrong all these years. I'm not terribly sure which it is.
>>337 >non-White spic blog Chechar? Does he know that he would have to be subjugated/killed in the event WNs win? That the current system is the only thing keeping him alive? Can someone tell me why subhumans want to follow this set of ideas that may be a detriment to their lives in the future?
>>361 He is more pro White than most Whites though, and he is spot on about Cuckstianity.
>>361 Maybe he knows how shit amerindian mexicans are and that his people have no future other than eternal consumer slaving for the jew and even further mongrelization. Even we are following a set of beliefs that makes our lives more difficult, and that we may well not see the positive effects of within our lifetimes. It's about something greater than yourself, because what is now is complete shit anyways and leaves you no future worth having. I feel like we've already covered this before though.
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>>361 It's likely some sort of subconscious desire to look good in front of White people in hopes that they will see him as a good non-White. Many non-Whites deeply desire to be accepted by Whites. >>343 >Fascism has a great draw to me but for some reason I'm held back. I don't know if it's a difference in values, or methodology, or if I'm not yet ready to accept I was wrong all these years. I'm not terribly sure which it is. Do you know what aspect in particular you feel held back on? For me, I never really set out to become a Fascist (or more accurately National Socialist) but as I kept reading stuff and looking at what was going on it became increasingly clear that this was really the only worldview that made sense. I never really made a conscious decision where I said "I'm going to become a NatSoc". That's another thing, Hitler's speeches are very powerful as well in the case that you have not seen any or many.
>>370 Personal liberty is one. I can understand and agree with the hairy eyeball a lot of fascists (from my viewing) give to Negative Liberty but some take it as far as to say no liberty at all is better than any liberty at all. I'm aware fascists aren't a monolith but it is a seemingly common viewpoint and one I can't agree with. I'm fairly liberal and grew up in a libertarian household so I imagine that's where my contention comes from but it is one that seems to be stubborn.
And I have listened to some of Hitler's speeches as well as Oswald Mosley's (and read about Rockwell). I agree, the speeches are powerful.
>>376 > I'm fairly liberal and grew up in a libertarian household Fuck, my condolences! That will take a few years to deprogram, but you're off to a good start it seems
>>378 Lol I've been workin' on it for about 5 or six years now. Trust me I was a *lot* worse off then than I am now. I've had good discussions with my dad (who's more apolitical than anything) and he seems to understand fascism isn't bad, it's just the name people freak out at. So in general the situation's going well.
>>370 >Many non-Whites deeply desire to be accepted by Whites. Will it ultimately pay off though?
>>380 I have my doubts. Most people seem to view that sort of behavior with distaste from my experience. >>376 It really depends on what one means by 'personal liberty'. Personally I don't want a society where every aspect of my life is controlled by some distant government authority, that is for sure. The idea of 'freedom' is not a good idea to found a community / state on, because the logical conclusion of putting freedom as the highest value is anarchy. A high amount of personal liberty is not necessarily a sign of a high degree of civilization. In fact it is the opposite, so long as it is not overbearing and anti-nature. If one should choose anything as a principle to build a nation around it should not be liberty, but harmony, where all of the diverse components of the nation can work together in tandem and without significant friction, for the good of both the entire community and the individuals within it. I do not think that many serious individuals (i.e. not LARPing) would agree that all spontaneity, all personal choice, should be extinguished. There needs to be a fair balance between the individual and the state. >>377 GLR's got some good vids too. Like the one I attached
>>381 My view on it is that too much freedom (Anarchy, lack of duty/personal expectation, etc.) is a negative in particular if you're trying to make a strong, cohesive state and civilization. Far as I'm concerned that's what we're seeing in a lot of places (like my homeland the USA). Too much 'freedom' and not enough duty, structure, and expectation. Like you said I don't want a society that's controlled by a distant government authority. What you said with harmony being a better viture than liberty is basically what I want. Though I am curious as to the view on rights. Some literature I've read rails against the thought of natural rights, which I've taken exception to. Same here. Spontaneity, personal choice, in a way I'm describing personality, shouldn't be extinguished. Like you said, there has to be a balance. Some give and take. On this line of thought though is a question I want to ask the board in general: Firearms. I'm of the opinion every citizen can and should be armed, have training and ammunition for personal defense, enjoyment, and in case a foreign power or the state itself tries to step in. I'm fine with the state, I accept hierarchy being natural, I'm fine with giving up some things to make sure harmony is kept. But if I can't defend myself from a hostile power foreign or otherwise I feel like every discussion of liberty is rendered moot. Apologies for the wall of text btw.
>>383 >Apologies for the wall of text btw. We love text walls here, do not worry. The more of them there are too the less 4cuck retards will post here. >Though I am curious as to the view on rights. Some literature I've read rails against the thought of natural rights, which I've taken exception to. Depends on how natural law is defined here. Maybe not in the pozzed sense of 'all men are created equal'. Some of the more materialistic people here (in the philosophical sense) may deny them all together if they are more hardline in their position, but there is also talk of Natural Law / Dharma. >On this line of thought though is a question I want to ask the board in general: Firearms. I'm of the opinion every citizen can and should be armed, have training and ammunition for personal defense, enjoyment, and in case a foreign power or the state itself tries to step in. Your opinion here is essentially what I have seen others here in the past say before. I've been posting on /fascist/ since 2018 and I have never seen, at least to my memory, any posts advocating for the disarming of the population. Anyone who wants us disarmed is a bad actor.
>>385 Maybe under the eys of God we are all equal, but under the common eye of Man we're not and we can see we're not. Personally that's how I take the phrase "All men are created equal" to mean, but that's a philosophical debate for another time. It's hard to describe my stance on rights in any meaningful way. I'm also not learned enough to opine on the Dharma. I think an easy way to describe it is every person is their own and thus they have rights (speech, to defend themselves, etc.) But then I feel like I'm rehashing a prior point we already covered.
>>388 Dharma is action in accordance with Ṛta, or the Natural Order. It has its origin in Transcendence, i.e. in God. The whole thing is often just called Dharma, however. The main attraction to this is that it recognizes diversity and inequality. Different kinds of people have different a different dharma / duty which is sourced in their nature as an embodied individual, a product (so it is said) of their karma. Extremely similar ideas can be found in almost every pre-Abrahamic Indo-European society. It is basically a form of Natural Law
>>391 Learn something every day. Interesting. I have a similar view (a place for everything and everything in its place) so I can understand that pretty well.
>>215 >Russification What are you even talking about? USSR's goal was the creation of the soviet man, not the russification of all people under their rule: and this was pursued via erasure of all national identities and religious belief. Sovietic does not mean russian.
>>393 That type of view I'd say is quite congenial with Fascism.
>>401 Indeed. Though I'm not sure I could say I adhere to some primordial truth, or wise enough to know the Truth. Whether or not that'd preclude me from being a fascist I'm unsure, but as I keep learning the ideology certainly appeals.
>>405 No, that won't preclude you from being a Fascist in the slightest.
>>400 >USSR's goal was the creation of the soviet man, not the russification of all people under their rule: and this was pursued via erasure of all national identities and religious belief. Yeah, more or less. But you simply cannot deny the reality of Russification. The numbers don't lie, the policies don't lie. The Russian language, and the ethnic group itself, were used by the State, in a pragmatic fashion, to unify the Union under a single banner. The "Soviet Man", could not exist as a disconnected patchwork of ethnic groups, languages, religions, and so on, as you rightfully imply. Therefore, the Russian ethnic group was used as a crude "vehicle" for the Soviet civilizational model. This is what is meant by "Russification", it does not mean that ethnic Russians were "cherished" by the State, or given some great and racially conscious "preference". It's rather simple and obvious, yet it has caused many people to sperg out in this threat.
>>406 I'm happy to hear it! I appreicate all the answers, from you and other anons. I participated in the QTDDTOT thread in the prior incarnations. Always have good debates with anons here.
>>381 >Most people seem to view that sort of behavior with distaste from my experience How is it distasteful? You expect them to have any sense of pride/self-love? That wouldn't make sense. They're not White after all.
>>409 If you don't find it weird that there are people out there who devote inordinate amounts of time to trying to ingratiate themselves to White Nationalists on the internet I don't know what to tell you, especially when they are trying to act like they are 'giving advice' to Whites and how they should be acting. >>408 No problem anon, glad to help.
>>376 I'm a fascist, and my position on liberty and order can basically be summed up as "you have as many rights as you can claim with your rifle." Relying on a set of government bureocrats to tell you what you can and cannot do is beyond cucked, especially when it comes to making something with your own two hands. >oh gee mr shlomo can I turn this wooden stick into a slightly pointier wooden stick? What prevents degeneracy and antisocial behavior isn't a monolithic set of laws and an all-pervading police state, we "enjoy" those institutions already and they fail to enforce anything that matters completely. The only way you can ensure destructive shit doesn't happen is to allow people to take their safety and that of their community into their own hands (lynching and mob justice for degenerates), as well as providing an actually healthy community that you want to be a part of, and by extension to maintain. The only role the government needs to have, is that of maintaining the army. If we really believe in the superiority of the race, it's about time we stop treating those of the race like children. They are responsible for their own behaviour and its consequences, we just have to point them the right way (with a few decades of overwhelming military force and liberal use of violence).
>>437 "it is not in our interests that the West should liberate the East" And do what, replace it with Mcdonalds style Americanism? Is that such an improvement? This kike was talking straight out of his ass, like they always do. The last movement which sought to "liberate the East", in a genuine and encompassing manner, was of course the Third Reich. As for picking between Communism and Capitalism, it's akin to rummaging through a garbage can. We reject both civilizational models in their entirety, both the totalitarian Bolshevism that was present in the East, and the progressivist neoliberal shithole of the West, that endures still to this day. No idea what you had in mind posting the ravings of some degenerate Israeli leader, but I can imagine your autistic mind thinking "checkmate" or some shit. Posting a somewhat irrelevant quotation, in regards to all the posts you "responded" to, instead of actually demonstrating a point.
>>448 My purpose of posting it was to present proof that BOTH the East and West are controlled by the same kikes, contrary to what the other anon believes. He said this in 1952, a time when the West was a different place.
>>449 >My purpose of posting it was to present proof that BOTH the East and West are controlled by the same kikes This quotation does not aid that point you were apparently trying to make, at all. In fact it does the opposite. See - "The West would inevitably deprive jewry of the Eastern half of its world power". No mention of Western jewry here... Nor does the quote address any issues brought up in the posts you responded to. It's simply retarded and unnecessary. >He said this in 1952, a time when the West was a different place. Only at the most superficial level. The pseudo-conservatism and less pozzed nature of 1950's America, and the Western world in general, was simply a less pronounced version of what was inevitably coming, ie, multiculturalism, globo homo, etc. This was the exact same West which fought against the apparent "tyranny" of the National Socialists with such democratic, "freedom loving" vigor, only 7 fucking years before this quotation. The West of 1952, was fundamentally the same as it is today, the same rotten creatures run the show, the same disgusting ideologies lie at the core, and only the most superficial veneer has changed.
>>>361 Yes, yes, yes and in his case because it's the truth, simple as, in general others have covered it well.
>>421 >Im a fascist >I should be able to fuck over my racial kin for selfish purposes as long as Im stronger >the State should do almost nothing at all Did libertarianism become too mainstream so now you need to call yourself something else to feel edgy and rebellious? At least read a couple of books on the subject before embarrassing yourself this badly.
>>462 >fuck over my kin I wouldn't, but other people gladly will. The state can't and won't prevent this, no matter how many resources are put into it. The problem with fucking over your kin, is that you can do it in near-total secrecy from the state. You can have secret police at every corner, and you will still struggle to catch most subversive or degenerate acts (which would automatically be done in secret under a Fascist regime). Just like in the present day, the only way to catch any of this will be through civilian involvement. No matter how many laws of whatever severity you have against those acts, nobody will tip you off to them unless people: A) want the current state of affairs to continue, and B) see those acts as harmful to the status quo (and by extension their lives). Since all acts harmful to the kin are degenerate and/or treasonous in nature, this requires a general hatred of degeneracy and treason to be common among the populace. If this is already the case, those acts can be prevented or punished on account of their degeneracy or treason, instead of an arbitrary and likely insufficient set of laws. Whatever the law seeks to define as unlawful, will either be far more restricted than what is actually harmful, or entirely out of touch and unenforceable/actively harmful. When coupled with the problem of how the fuck we're going to set up working civil administrations with the few trustworthy people we have, it becomes clear that having a minimal law code with maximum severity is the only solution. I'd go so far as to say we don't need a law code at all, just a set of operating principles enshrined at the founding of the state, defining the sorts of acts that are degenerate, and why you should kill your neighbor on the spot if he commits them. In lieu of officers of the law, we should also empower actual officers of the army to conduct field courts for civil or military matters, with the ability to enforce summary capital punishment if they find it necessary. >as long as Im stronger /sig/ might be able to help with your inferiority complex.
I will not read whatever drivel you came up with this time but I appreciate that at least this time you assigned yourself an anarcho-capitalist flag instead of larping as a fascist.
>>467 Fuck off back to 4cuck, I'm sure they'll be more appreciative of your police state larp.
>>410 I see what you're saying. But like I said, they can't do much. Im sure there are some here edgy enough to think that if shitskins were never redpilled it would've been better. Easier for Whites to conquer the world or smth.
>>465 Isn't that whole thing part of where the thought of a Total State comes in? Making the people and the State one organism so there's less strain on bureaucracy and formations of police states and empowering people to govern themselves in some capacity?
>>473 Yes. This quote by Confucius is a very relevant one I think: >If the people be led by laws, and uniformity sought to be given them by punishments, they will try to avoid the punishment, but have no sense of shame. >"If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good." http://classics.mit.edu/Confucius/analects.1.1.html This shouldn't be interpreted in some wild sense of 'no laws to punish bad acts', but that we must not attempt to lead by laws alone. We want our principles to become second nature to the nation, and the way to this is a mixture of leading by example (the many will always follow truly greater leaders and their example), instilling our principles through education and socialization, and finally laws to some extent because it is inevitable and anyone with a sense of realism shall realize this. We don't want a population cowering in fear and forced to accept fascism at the barrel of a gun, we want an authentically fascist population, and while this does not necessarily mean that I am concerned with what the masses want or desire, there are better and worse ways of affecting change.
>>477 All of this is second nature to anyone who read and understood Mein Kampf. Hitler obviously wants the majority of internal harmony to be achieved by means of education so that people will act in a völkish manner instinctively, and the force of law as a fallback. However the faggot who said the State should do literally nothing other than maintain a military, while calling himself a fascist, is still ludicrous.
>>587 What do you need anything beside a military for when the officer is also judge, jury, and executioner?
>>421 My own, for the sake of discussion, is that our rights are granted to us by God not Man. Whoever this God is, what shape it takes, what name it's called, doesn't matter. The creator bestowed rights and they're ours to the day we die. For that reason, I maintain that discretion has to be practiced. Yes, I have the right to free speech but that doesn't mean I should abuse it and act like a nigger. Yes I have the right to keep and bear arms, but that doesn't mean I should endanger people with them. I should practice gun safety. That sort of thing. I don't know how much that aligns with anons here but, they are my views. I don't have much issue with the state, or with a powerful government, as long as they recognize those rights. Don't fuck me, I won't fuck you. Gotta work together.
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>>599 But God only made White people. Can God truly stop Whites from going on a conquering spree and eliminating anybody not White, even if it's immoral or niggerish.
>>636 If you devolve to niggerish behavior you deserve to be treated like a nigger by members of your race.
>>636 >But God only made White people God made everything and sustains everything. This does not preclude the fact that Whites are supreme when it comes to "humanity" (to the extent that it truly exists).
>>637 What would "niggerish behaviour" be in this particular context?
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>>636 God I love this board. >eliminating anybody not White >immoral or niggerish >implying
>>645 Violence for the sake of violence, an utter lack in civility, acting purely on instinct and being less of a man and more of an animal.
>>649 You mean literal senseless violence like shooting up a preschool or something right, instead of violence that is for the survival or interests of our people, right?
>>651 Violence for survival or in the interests of our people isn't niggerish. Shooting up public places, assaulting civilians, rioting and looting stores and shit, that's niggerish. That sort of shit I'd hang a White man as quickly as a black man because they lower themselves to the same standard. I just can't stand that shit, anon. Senseless violence is pure nigger to me.
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>>652 Alright, I see. Yeah, we mostly agree then. The one area we might disagree on is with people like Crusius. Personally I don't think he did anything wrong. When we have an anti-White government continuously importing invaders and allowing them to settle in our lands and literally doing nothing to stop them, and in fact encouraging them, it's essentially inevitable that people who will be most affected by this events may snap and take action themselves, and for better or for worse, these people will be far more brutal than the government would have been in removing them. They were civilians in public places, but in many senses we're already at war, and our uniform is the color of our skin. It's sad that things like this have to happen, but it's also not a surprise.
>>653 On that you and I can agree. I just don't have much of the lust or love of violence that some others (and I Imagine many of you) do. I prefer to try and talk and debate and deal situations down so they don't escalate but I understand when talk simply isn't an option...like what's happening to us now. I hate that it's this way but it's not an affliction we chose, it's one we had imposed on us. I'm just disappointed that it's come to this, you know?
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>>654 I can definitely sympathize to an extent. I don't really get any pleasure out of imagining the violent deaths of our enemies or anything, but I do see that we are on one-way trip to a massive bloodbath from which there is no escape. In many ways this will be awful, but it will have a redemptive quality for our people. I remember one of my earliest redpilled thoughts being that we needed something like another war to stop people from being so weak and effeminate. Man grows through suffering and hardship, not endless pleasures and indulgence, as I am sure you yourself know. There will be tremendous suffering and carnage in the future, but if we are victorious, our race will emerge greater and more vigorous than ever before. This is a sort of detached view of the whole situation though, it will be horrible for many, I don't doubt that.
>>655 It'll be horrendous but I believe we'll come out on top. I have that much faith in our race. I just hope I'm still around to see the other side
>>656 I think things will be getting pretty bad by 2030. I don't when it will really heat up though and turn full race-war. We're gradually on our way though. The real problem is that there is not much being done out there right now by /ourguys/ that I am aware of, at least here in America.
>>657 Not knowing can be a blessing and a curse. Could be they're being smart and not bringing attention to themselves since we all know how the government feels about Whites trying to defend themselves (and the attempts at stripping guns from us is further proof of this). Could be there's not much happening or could be *plenty* going on.
>>658 That's definitely not impossible. I'm sure there is - to an extent at least - much more going on IRL than we are really aware of. I have been told before by people either here or on a similar board that apparently the IRL WN scene is very different from the type of stuff we see on /pol/, which to an extent is a blessing, but also bad, since it probably means that they are more stuck in their boomer ways than anything. /pol/ is trash, but it has spread WN to new generations far better than anything else so far. It's really surprising to go on Stormfront and see how far behind the curve they are compared to basically every poster here and even on boards like the /pol/ here. Unfortunately I have not really investigated this for myself yet.
>>659 I've only made cursory advances into stormfront myself in recent times. Most of my time debating and understanding fascist ideologies has been through this board, the prior iterations, and others such as on reddit or discord (I know, I know) that has been slowly showing me that I've been lied to much of my life so if it's reached what was once a hardcore democrat I'm sure it's reaching others well.
>>660 Stormfront is basically a boomer version of the more redpilled /pol/ boards (i.e. every /pol/ other than cuckchan). When Trump was still president people were still following him there in 2020 when it was very obvious that he was a total fraud at that point. Imageboards are definitely the best place around right now for this type of stuff.
>>661 So I've noticed. I've gotten lots of great discussion and information from anons on the iterations of this board for example and it's really helped me in trying to unfuck what I was taught growing up.
>>652 Everything you described is what will be required of any Aryan man in the coming war and struggle for survival as this world collapses. I can imagine several reasons, for survival alone, to shoot up public places, beat the shit out of people, riot and loot places, call it niggerish if you want, but the truth is being unwilling to do ANYTHING for our race's survival, out of a misguided sense of honor, is itself a resignation to death, and the failure of our forebears including Hitler, he should have used the Sarin gas.
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>>663 From my discussion with the anon in regards to that posts that followed, I think he is closer to our position than one would think. What might be niggerish under normal circumstances is survival activity in another circumstance. Everyone needs to keep in mind what Savitri Devi wrote in the fucking 1950s - this is even more true today: >One can say, with more and more certainty as the “Dark Age” goes on, that the god-like men of action are defeated, at least for the time being, not for having been too ruthless (and thus for having roused against themselves and their ideas and their collaborators the indignation of the “decent people”), but for not having been ruthless enough — for not having killed off their fleeing enemies, to the last man, in the brief hour of triumph; for not having silenced both the squeamish millions of hypocrites and their masters, the clever producers of atrocity-tales, by more substantial violences, more complete exterminations. The message of The Lightning and the Sun is the doctrine of detached violence in the service of eternal truth, violence done “in the interest of the Universe", as she quotes from the Bhagavad Gita. This was the fault of Hitler, she realized, that he was too good for this world.
I was just thinking how accurately the term "pozzed" describes our current world but I rarely see it used anymore. Did some unsavory group appropriate it, or did the meme just fade naturally? Was it inorganic from the start?
>>670 Well the source of the meme has always been unsavory in the extreme, but besides that I cannot think of any reason why it would be fading. I guess people just move to newer meme-terms as time passes.
>>671 I will start using it more when appropriate. You can't know how bad things really are without the proper words to describe it. I'm still looking for something to replace Globohomo. It fails at representing the whole concept but nothing else has been able to supplant it in my mind.
>>670 It morphed into clown world
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>>675 Globohomo's actually a pretty good one since it covers globalization, homogenization and makes one think of 'homo' - all things that are integral to the current jewish social engineering project in the West. Pozzed has a slightly different sense. Just like how the term comes from some fag slang for giving some HIV, it indicates something that has been infected by degeneracy or subversion in some way. They are really both very good terms. >>676 This seems true
>>663 Anon I'm not sure you understood what I meant. I can't stand niggerish behavior when it has no sense, when it has no aim, and is done just for the sake of violence. That is niggerish and no matter your race, I'll consider you a nigger. If it's for our survival I can understand it, even if I find it distasteful due simply to my sensibilities. Normally I'd espouse honor and chivalry but we're not currently in a position where either one applies because we're fighting to keep our race alive. I'm aware of that.
>>700 Welcome to 5, 20, or 60 years ago depending on how you view it. War against other Europeans is different than war against people who aren't playing by the same rules of honor. We're dealing with traitors, jews who intermix to look like us but backstab us at every turn, and enemies who don't even fight us but flood in through the gates opened by kikes and then reproduce to ethnically replace us.
>>705 I'm well aware, I'm just telling you what my view on the violence is. If it's for the purpose of safeguarding our people I'm fine with it. Violence for the sake of it is niggerish.
>>5 No questions for today I don't think. I just wanted to tell you anons that I appreciate you putting up with my (in my view) inane questioning and liberal nature. I've gotten more, better, and honest discussion out of people I'm told are completely incapable of debate or unwiling to debate than those who say they're the ones most open to it. So I appreciate it. Hope ya'll have a good one.
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>>738 Glad to help, fren. Have a good day
>>739 I appreciate it anon. I suppose I tell a lie when I say no questions today and for that I apologize but I've been agonizing today over my mounting realization as to what we as a race are having levelled against us. I've seen it plenty ranging from the riots over the past God knows how long now (feels like forever), every day more news of niggers or spics killing Whites, horrible things done to members of our race, all sorts of awful things done to us whether overtly and with physical violence or covertly and with insidious cultural and spiritual violence. I see all these things and realize I never grew up in a world that didn't have that happening. I'm almost 26 now and I've just come to the realization that I have no idea what another life looks like. What another world looks like. I grew up with groundpounding desert warfare with a government that strove to fuck us, horror inside and out, and finally coming to riots from barely human creatures with a penchant for violence. I see all these things and I read and read, I start to see how I was lied to, I start to realize you lot aren't wrong and indeed are seemingly the only sensible ones in this whole shitfest of a world we've come to. The only ones actually calling for a fight against what ails us no matter the front. I see all these things. I know in my head and heart that you're right. I just don't know how to carry out with this information. I've been lied to so wholly and so long that it's saturated my life and rendered me dumb and confused when I try to think of an alternative. What do we do, anons? How do we fight? How do we prepare? How do we stop it? What will the world look like after? It's that last question that scares me most. I've never known a sensible world it seems.
>>106 little hitler looks like slav boy
>>742 Start /k/ training with rifles and pistols in Counter Strike: GO and get /fit/. Become a /tech/ super hacker. Get the money you need to carry out practical jokes in Roblox. Then start planning on how to prank highest value targets in the highest value ways in the greatest numbers possible.
Oh and learn how to use torbrowser.
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>>742 There are many things that would be good to do: 1) get /fit/ 2) keeping redpilling yourself I recommend binging some Dr. William Luther Pierce if you have time. 3) realize that falling for the blackpill is letting the jews win, never fall for it 4) what >>745 said 5) Look for lads IRL
>>677 'pozzed' is derived from extreme degeneracy, and it's very accurate. HIV kills people by disabling their immune system, so that every other pathogen can destroy you. likewise, globohomo's strategy is to disarm and demoralize Whites so that we don't defend ourselves properly. as Whites, we're taught to be ashamed of ourselves and our history, that defending ourselves, our community and race is evil and bigoted, etc. in addition, White males are encouraged to embrace feminization and weakness. a healthy body will resist pathogens, cancers, and parasites, while a pozzed body will accept all invaders, eventually being destroyed. in parallel, a healthy Folk will perpetuate itself and fight for its existence, resisting subversion, degeneracy, and foreign invaders who wish to submerge the native culture and miscegenate the people; a pozzed people will accept vice, exploitation, and invaders like so many pathogens, eventually resulting in the same fate as the AIDS patient -- death. there's more truth to that meme than most realize. >>676 clown world is good in its own way. if you were to attend a gathering dressed as a clown, you would seem ridiculous. however, if you go to a party where everyone's a clown except you, you seem ridiculous for being normal. this captures the subversion and inversion taking place, where values and norms are turned upside-down, with the strangest, grossest, worst practices being normalized and encouraged (eg trannies), while right and proper ways are shunned and ridiculed.
>>749 I'm not falling to the blackpill. I'm just gradually understanding the situation and it's fuckin' me up is all.
I did awaken with a new vigor to exercise though. I also awoke with ideas for my state government but I'm not sure how worthy an idea that'd be or if it'd be worth it.
>>778 It’s important to careful nevertheless. It’s good to become more redpilled and wake up to the truth, but sometimes one can almost overdose on redpills and think that all is lost given the immensity of the situation before us. Luckily you seem to be able to resist that well so far.
>>786 What I've been doing is trying to do it in waves. I learn a bunch and then let it stew for a while, then come back and try to learn. In between I do mental exercises to try and understand what life would be like in a fascist society for example.
>>790 Remember not to neglect your personal life and well-being, anon.
>>809 Unfortunately I have done that but am making efforts to remedy the issue. For example I've ordered some exercise equipment and recently bought a firearm and ammo. I'm gonna try and make myself more worthy of my family and community, much as disabilities will allow, and ensure that I'm able to protect them.
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Anyone know any good gore sites? Bestgore was taken down and I can't access hoodsite. I go on worldstarhiphop every once in a while but the comments section is filled with monkeys and their low iq opinions. I need video footage of niggers getting killed before I decide to make my own montage. Here, have a singing Epstein in exchange.
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>>819 I'm feeling the loss of hoodsite pretty hard tbh
Is Tor factually safer than using the clearnet? Something out it doesn't sit right with me..
>>824 It's more anonymous. Might want to use it behind a VPN also. Might want to read more about it though to be sure. There is documentation and you can read the source code as well as books about it.
>>809 Personal life as in friends? I mean after you get to this point, there is no more life. Life is now gone. Now, it is just hate.
>>834 >not redpilling your friends >>824 Yes, it’s safer, but not fullproof. It takes a bit to get used to. It will make it even less user-friendly but putting it on the highest security settings makes it even more secure. The typical wisdom of not being a total retard applies though
>>835 Luckily my friends are all White. But I know a guy who's redpilled but he has shitskin friends. Put yourself in his shoes. What would you do?
>>839 With all due respect, why the obsession to gore?
>>835 >The typical wisdom of not being a total retard applies though This >>839 namefag >provides a permanent entry or exit node retarded Checks out
>>844 In all fairness there are some arguments for using tor without a VPN, but what anon said might just be the most retarded take I've heard in a while. Remember to report namefags though, and possibly also don't engage since they'll get deleted by based FashBO in a few hours' time.
>>834 I'm afraid you're wrong anon. I hate what's being levelled at our race, I hate those that wage war on it, and I hate those within that betray it. But I'm not consumed by hate. I see love and life and beauty and good in this world still and it's that that keeps me going. If you feel like you *have* to be consumed by hate to exist then by all means, go with whatever deity you find strength with. But I refuse to live that way. If we lose ourselves to the black and the sick and destructive we'll never see the beauty that I see fascists speak of in purple prose with tearful eyes. Remember to live anon. Please.
>>841 Different anon here, but for me at least, seeing gore content has made me much less naive than most normalfags about things, especially the type of stuff that goes on in shitholes like Brazil, Africa and the Muslim world. It’s more of a morbid curiosity though than anything for me at least. >>840 I just wouldn’t be hanging out with a nigger
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>>847 I definitely agree with you here. I guess in a sense it could be said that I 'hate' jews and White Genocide, but I don't see myself consumed by hate either. I think that is largely a Hollywood meme. Hate is a negative emotion. One can become burnt-out and tired from just endlessly hating, but do we ever here someone become burnt out from love? To realize this is to take the Hitler-pill, as is said in this article, where Hitler is called an 'evangelist of love' - >Adolf Hitler was literally an evangelist of love. His words, his actions, his entire existence is testimony to his selfless love of his Folk. Anyone who takes the time to honestly examine Adolf Hitler’s speeches and writings can readily see the great love he had for his Folk. His actions proved his words. Everything that he did was done for benefit of the Folk. The welfare and higher evolution of the Folk is the only reason for the existence of National Socialism. Every aspect of National Socialism, no matter how small or insignificant, is for the present or future benefit of the Folk. Every decision was based on the answer to one question: Is it good for the Folk? >Here we should note that in a condition of natural, tribal love of our own Folk, we can begin to understand the significance of a genuine universal love of all mankind. From this natural condition, we can feel an honest love for other Folk: in their own natural environment; with their own values; working toward their own higher evolution, in their own way and in their own time. That is the true brotherhood of man! >True love is contagious. The love exuded by Adolf Hitler naturally infected his Folk, awakening their natural love and their higher idealism, bringing about the miracle of National Socialist Germany. A true National Socialist can be measured by the very image of Adolf Hitler: by idealism and love of Folk. Love is something which cannot be faked. No amount of philosophical understanding can be substituted for it. No official organization, or any casual association with surviving notables of National Socialist Germany, can create the heart’s natural love. The love in a true National Socialist is readily felt. It is contagious, and it will attract the true Folk. Where love is, the Folk is: and where the Folk is, Hitler is! https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/06/the-eternal-laws-of-nature-love-and-national-socialism/
>>855 I can understand all that. I just can't help but remind people that if you go too far into hate you'll only end up a shell. I understand and agree with the hatred for jews and White genocide. Just remember to surface every now and again and look into the faces of the ones you love. And reading what you posted about Hitler, I realize further what Germany (and the White race in general) lost and am saddened for what transpired.
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>>857 It was a tragedy, but even Hitler knew that he was laying the preparatory work for a definitive solution in the future. This is what he said in 1928 to Hans Grimm: >I know that some man capable of giving our problems a final solution must appear. I have sought such a man. I could nowhere discover him. And that is why I have set myself to do the preparatory work; only the most urgent preparatory work, for I know that I am myself not, the one. And I know also what is missing in me (to be the one). But the other One still remains aloof, and nobody comes forward, and there is no more time to be lost.” And he certainly went above and beyond the call of duty, and even in defeat continues to inspire millions of Whites with his message (to the extent that he can be said to have formulated it, because National Socialism in essence is far more than just an 'ism'.
>>860 I'm just wishing that things had been different, that America had joined the Axis for example. I know it's not productive to wish for such a thing but still. I am starting to understand that both National Socialism and Fascism are something beyond just an 'ism.' Something greater than that. If you'd have told me six months ago I'd be thinking like I do now I'd have called you mad.
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Does anyone have a pdf of "A Bull Of A Man: Images Of Masculinity, Sex and the Body In Indian Buddhism". I heard the book explains early Buddhism's image of Masculinity and the false image perceived from the West that it was Egilitarian and a very feminine. It seems the book argues that many of Buddha's teachings were on par with what Nitschze, Hitler, Mishima, etc thought of creating the superhuman or ubermensch.
>>865 If we look at the oldest texts the Buddha is teaching an elitist path which is not necessarily anti-masculine. For example, classical masculinity is all about restraint, self-control and the cessation of harmful desires. We see this as integral to Buddhism. I believe there are also a variety of quotes where the Buddha denigrates women and believes that it is infinitely harder for them to achieve nirvana than it is for men, and accordingly Buddhist nuns had extra restrictions that men did not have. I think Evola's reading of Buddhism makes infinitely more sense, and then even with that said there is the very likely fact that the Buddha didn't even teach some doctrines who are ascribed to him and which result from corruptions, such as there literally be no self, etc. Here's the book though.
>>866 Thanks, I will give this a read immediately.
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>>867 Awesome, let us know if it's worth the read.
>>866 >classical masculinity is all about restraint, self-control and the cessation of harmful desires This is only half-true. Classical masculinity was also about being dominant, mighty, and cunning. Self-restraint was indeed uptmost important for it was vital to keep a society and its elites away from corruption, but they didn't always emphasize on this, for they seen also seen that a warmongering virgin who has complete control of himself and doesn't allow degeneracy and emotions to effect his decision was idealized for what a man should be during his peak years. Aryans also conceptualized the idea of Masculinity to being equivalent to a bull, bear, dragon, lion, etc.
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>>871 I think you're right. When I talked of self-control and restraint, I was mainly talking in reference to an sense of internal restraint and self-control, i.e. over all forms of weakness and character failings. Having conquered one's self, one can thereby become dominant and mighty. This is why the Bhagavad Gita ultimately teaches a better path than Buddhism as popularly understood, as it emphasizes the path of detached action as a form of yoga / communion with God. The more laid-back forms of spiritual practice that is often emphasized in Buddhism take a back-seat, even if they aren't fully denigrated or rejected (and there's no reason they necessarily should be in whole). Arjuna was told not to renounce the world in whole, but to selflessly destroy his enemies for the welfare of the world and as a form of devotion. Basically this is also what Evola talks about in The Metaphysics of War on and off.
>>855 >Hollywood meme The way NatSocs are portrayed in Hollywood is based according to some. Because being unironically hateful is based now. Yeah I'm starting to think that sometimes NatSocialism can attract mentally disturbed people(over the top cartoony violence). But that's just my two cents.
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>>876 >Yeah I'm starting to think that sometimes NatSocialism can attract mentally disturbed people It's because of jewish propaganda. NatSoc is the forbidden fruit, the ultimate edgy move, the ultimate taboo. I am referring of course to the Hollywood stereotypes of 'Neo-Nazis' of course more than anything. Even a good, well-spoken NatSoc is seen as evil, but to LARP as a Hollywood Nazi is attractive to certain mentally-ill people. People need to remember that NatSoc views in many forms were completely mainstream a century ago (racialism, eugenics, nationalism) >>862 I can definitely understand the mindset. >I am starting to understand that both National Socialism and Fascism are something beyond just an 'ism.' Something greater than that. If you'd have told me six months ago I'd be thinking like I do now I'd have called you mad. Savitri Devi had a good quote that went something like 'You cannot denazify Nature'. The more one digs into it the more one can see that this is true.
Does anyone think qubes is worth the trouble of installing for the paranoid? I heard it runs like shit on older systems. Anyone running it here?
>>881 You should be fine with any Linux distro, the important part is to only run free open source software, since you can't know what proprietary software does and a lot of it openly spies on you. The real problem is avoiding tracking on the web, let me know if you need help with that. Should I make a computer security/opsec/infosec thread?
I asked this in the literature thread but I'll ask it here and expand on it: Can anyone point me to good literature about the fascist view on war/violence or what fascists use as a reference? I'm wanting to understand it a bit better (though something tells me I already *do* understand it but have repressed it) and in that spirit I thought I'd ask here: Why the glorification? I'm the same anon who said he can't stand violence for the sake of violence on another computer so I may show up different. Today we're taught that violence and war are neither the answer or something to view with positivity (however high the praise may climb). So what is it? What's the truth since I'm not gonna get any answers from the very people who taught me violence is disgusting.
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>>885 1) Mein Kampf. If you read that, read "Thus spoke Zarathustra". 2) Life is struggle, every valuable aspect of our being was ruthlessly derived by natural selection. Try to embrace it. You are a manifestation of your Race, and your trophies are someone's loss. Take what you have to take, and revel in it. ... >The logical consequence of Social Darwinism is that everything of value has been built in Hell. It is only due to a predominance of influences that are not only entirely morally indifferent, but indeed — from a human perspective — indescribably cruel, that nature has been capable of constructive action. Specifically, it is solely by way of the relentless, brutal culling of populations that any complex or adaptive traits have been sieved — with torturous inefficiency — from the chaos of natural existence. All health, beauty, intelligence, and social grace has been teased from a vast butcher’s yard of unbounded carnage, requiring incalculable eons of massacre to draw forth even the subtlest of advantages. This is not only a matter of the bloody grinding mills of selection, either, but also of the innumerable mutational abominations thrown up by the madness of chance, as it pursues its directionless path to some negligible preservable trait, and then — still further — of the unavowable horrors that ‘fitness’ (or sheer survival) itself predominantly entails. We are a minuscule sample of agonized matter, comprising genetic survival monsters, fished from a cosmic ocean of vile mutants, by a pitiless killing machine of infinite appetite. (This is still, perhaps, to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story, but it should suffice for our purposes here.) Crucially, any attempt to escape this fatality — or, more realistically, any mere accidental and temporary reprieve from it — leads inexorably to the undoing of its work. Malthusian relaxation is the whole of mercy, and it is the greatest engine of destruction our universe is able to bring about. To the precise extent that we are spared, even for a moment, we degenerate — and this Iron Law applies to every dimension and scale of existence: phylogenetic and ontogenetic, individual, social, and institutional, genomic, cellular, organic, and cultural. There is no machinery extant, or even rigorously imaginable, that can sustain a single iota of attained value outside the forges of Hell.
>>885 Violence is disgusting. A good goyem lets themselves be genocided through proxy violence by the state and state enforced immigration from foreign tribes. There is no glorification of violence, it's just self defense.
>>885 As another anon has said, at some level, nature is characterized by eternal struggle, i.e. violnce and conflict. Animals fight for food, mates, territory, and in a sense humans do as well, but also over ideologies, economic interests and other beliefs. This is merely a Law of Nature. Things seek to preserve their existence, and struggle against others to fulfill this goal, even at the expense of others. One musn’t take this to be everything though. To deny struggle is to deny an aspect of this world, but there is also a countervailing Law of Nature that aims towards harmony and cooperation, especially among those closely connected or related. This is why individualistic varieties of Social Darwinism are false and deviant. I feel like ‘glorifying violence’ is maybe not the correct term, or at least not giving us the whole picture here. We affirm that the struggle and conflict are integral parts of life, and we do not shy away from this fact. We affirm it, and recognize that from time-to-time it is necessary to engage in for the sake of higher ideals and interests. Fascist glorification of violence is not glorification of violence across the board—some nigger mugging some one and stabbing them isn’t righteous violence, it’s just greed and materialism. Numerous other examples could be given of the same type of stuff. Now one can ask if there is an aesthetic dimension to violence. I say it’s plausible, at least with a certain type of aesthetics dealing with a sense of the sublime. Mishima certainly had an aesthetic of violence and death, and he was quite fascistic, but the question with him is whether the aesthetics came first and then the politics (almost certainly).
>>878 Okay now I'm curious, what's your definitions (characteristics) of a Hollywood Nazi and a real National Socialist?
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>>890 Not the same anon but guessing something like >National Socialist /fascist/ - reads books >Hollywood Nazi /pol/ - reads memes Think of the stereotypical, unstable Neo-Nazi portrayed in Falling Down
>>895 Why is there no Culture of Critique in The New Awakening reading list?
>>883 >Should I make a computer security/opsec/infosec thread? Only if you can make a sound case for why you're not on tor
>>896 The list is not so much an end all be all, but a starting point point. Much of it is older titles, from well before 2000 and CoC Culture of Critique is basically about jews, not National Socialism Most of the titles focus on NSDAP inb4 >What about The track of jew through the ages or Immorality in the Talmud Writen by Rosenberg, Head of NSDAP Office of Foreign Affairs and before that he was Commissar for the Supervision of Intellectual and Ideological Education of the NSDAP. His views on jews were from the NSDAP viewpoint >>897 I don't think anyone is "not for tor" Anons are simply pointing out that it is not for all situations, all you need to be safe, and is not without any risk what so ever.
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>>890 A Hollywood Nazi is adhering to the image that the jews paint for the public and believing that it is what National Socialism was in truth. They'll believe the Holocaust happened, they will think Hitler is so great but will themselves be fat degenerate retards and druggies (exact opposite of what Hitler would praise), and are the type of people that you will look at and cringe. You will look at these people and think that they should be gassed. A National Socialist recognizes the popular stereotypes manufactured by Hollywood and realizes that this is not what National Socialism is about at all. He rejects the degenerates who appropriate it and dishonor it. He is educated on Fascism and National Socialism. He has likely taken the Sun and Steel-pill if he is not a LARPer.
>>904 There are no "Hollywood Nazi's", there are degenerates who pretend to be nazis yeah, but they didn't get their ideas from fucking hollywood. I'm getting sick of the shitstains who throw that around about those of us who advocate violence, that infographic about the "light' and the "dark" is also straight bullshit for it's use of satanic as a slur. Satanic as any christian understands it is meaningless because it simply means adversary as in opposed to the jewish god and/or his son, most of the anons on this board are thus "Satanic" and on the question of the holohoax, obviously it didn't happen but it should have, and as such getting people to become National Socialists while accepting and/or not caring about the horrid shit the mainstream says about it, is actually better for our long term goals as unlike Hitler we seek to actually commit genocide of the jews.
>>917 Degenerates who pretend to be National Socialists are exactly what I am referring to by the use of the term 'Hollywood Nazi'. It's not that they necessarily get their ideas from Hollywood, it's more the sense that they, unwittingly or not, fall into the worst of the stereotypes put out by the jews to turn people away from National Socialism by associating it with a disreputable crowd. When it comes to the other things you said, I don't really think we disagree that much. I have no problem with violence and understand its necessity and the fact that violence and struggle are integral parts of life. Tarrant, Breivik and the others are warriors for their race. Christians are parasitized by a jewish mind-virus. And finally, as you say, the jews must be eradicated. There is no other option at this point. One can say this and not be a degenerate like the ones I talked about above. National Socialists should have no trouble admitting the fact that in order to secure the existence of our people we are going to have to be violent, ruthless and destructive in pursuit of our goals. The crux of the matter is that being a fat degenerate freak inhibits one's ability to take practical steps towards actualizing these goals. The greater one is, the more people will want to listen to what they have to say, the more he will influence others. It is not just a suggestion that we have to be fit and healthy, but an imperative, as I can hardly imagine you would deny either.
From the bottom of my hearts I want to thank you anons (again). In my (admittedly short) time in coming to this iteration of /fascist/ I've learned quite a lot and I've also been forced to ask myself many questions. One of which being "And why aren't you fixing it?" Why aren't I fixing the issues I've been facing for so long? Why haven't I been preparing? Why haven't I been trying to make myself worthy of myself, my family, my nation and race? Why haven't I been fixing these issues? And I could find no answer. Just lots of skirting and stumbling and scratching my head. There was no good answer, just excuses. So I'm resolving to fix the issue. I'm gonna work on fixing my many degenerate habits, on making myself more worthy as a man, and trying to climb to a far higher place than I've ever been. It's gonna be hard, it's gonna hurt, but it's gonna be worth it. Thank you Anons. I'll never be able to repay you (and I'm afraid I'll always be around to ask questions, you're stuck with me there) but I hope that some day, maybe we'll be able to stand as brothers even if we may never know it.
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>>932 >I'm gonna work on fixing my many degenerate habits, on making myself more worthy as a man, and trying to climb to a far higher place than I've ever been. It's gonna be hard, it's gonna hurt, but it's gonna be worth it. Highly based. Just know that other anons here are working towards the same stuff and doing it right along with you, even if you don't know it. Good to see /fascist/ helping people.
>>933 It is. In a way I feel like I'm just embracing what I knew from the start. It wasn't until my early teens that I really lost my way. It's unfortunate it's taken this long for me to realize it but better late than never.
>>917 You're right. Would that be the non-Whites who are trying to say that some are Hollywood Nazis? Like how they'll say "Hitler had non-Whites in his army" or something.
>>943 I highly doubt that non-Whites are coming here to say that Whites should be more like ideal National Socialists than degenerate fatties. >>934 >better late than never. Yes, that's definitely true. Even doing minimal amounts of exercise makes me personally feel like a Whitepilled Übermensch. It's absolutely vital, and the more the better.
>>950 For sure. I'm actually about to start on with my dumbbells. I've also opened the blinds, let in more sun. I think it'll help.
>>950 No shit, not here. I mean in the more well known boards and on Telegram, GAB.
>>953 I've heard a lot of stories here from anons about non-Whites trying to suck up and get approval on places like Gab or Telegram. It would really depend on what they are saying. When it comes to the designation 'Hollywood Nazi', what this really means depends on how the person using it is defining it. I explicitly meant degenerates who are besmirching the name of National Socialism, but it would certainly not surprise me if there were some out there who used such terms to attack true National Socialism in order to push Alt-Kike ideals or Cultured Thug-type material under our noses. >>951 Sunlight is always very good. Get some good lifting in.
>>959 Made some progress. Not much at all, but it's the start of many more in the future.
>>963 Building up slow is the way to do it.
What are your thoughts on the book "Becoming A Barbarian" by Jack Donovan? I haven't read the book myself and I'm skeptical of it considering the fact that the author is a homosexual and has hung out with (((Richard Spencer))).
>>1047 The description of the book seems basically like something one could read here, except here it would be better worded and not written by a tattooed homosexual. To look for real masculinity it's better to observe and read about great men of action from the past in my opinion.
What do anons think would be a good system of government for a fascist nation? The way fascism trends seems to gravitate toward monarchy but I can understand the issues with monarchy. Similarly I can understand the issue with governments like republics or (god forbid) democracies. So what do you all think?
>>1066 Here are screencaps related to your question.
>>1068 Interesting.
I'll have to try and find that book and give it a looksee. I'd still like some anons thoughts if they get the chance. I'm biased toward republics myself so I'm trying to keep an open mind.
>>1066 Depends what you mean by monarchy. If you mean some dude sitting around on a throne all day dressed in purple robes doing whatever he wants, then no, I don't support monarchy, but when we go see how Aristotle talked about monarchy in his Politics I don't really have any complaints.
>>1072 >doing whatever he wants This is mostly a consequence of the constitutional/parliamentary system. The trend of decadent monarchs buying mansions and throwing parties all day started as soon as the little nobility and merchant classes started embedding themselves into the administrative system. The monarchies in question aren't without blame, as they very happily assigned hereditary titles to ministers and established structured court systems, but the king was only truly separated from his country when all his legislative, judicial, and administrative tasks started being done by officials elected by the court and only formally named by the king. This allowed the wealthy to govern themselves, and the king to do whatever the fuck he pleases without a single care in the world. The only viable form of monarchy is direct in nature, ascetic in spirit, and spartan in discipline. I personally believe the throne should be hereditary, but at the same time it should come with the requirement of being a complete ubermensch. The ideal state, really, cannot be distinguished between monarchy or dictatorship, as it will be martial to its very core.
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>>1073 >The only viable form of monarchy is direct in nature, ascetic in spirit, and spartan in discipline. I personally believe the throne should be hereditary, but at the same time it should come with the requirement of being a complete ubermensch. >The ideal state, really, cannot be distinguished between monarchy or dictatorship, as it will be martial to its very core. The only thing I may disagree with here is the hereditary idea, but besides this we are in perfect agreement. Hitler was very close to this ideal.
>>1074 >The only thing I may disagree with here is the hereditary idea Why is that?
>>1083 It doesn't guarantee a nation good leadership.
>>1085 Neither does electing a leader. Hereditary works when princes are raised and taught to be great leaders. Common reasons why hereditary fails is because the father spoils or leave his sons to be raised by his mother rather than him doing it himself.
>>1086 In either case, say a Republic or Monarchy, what should happen if the ruler is a shit?
>>1088 Not him, but I posted about Hitler's view on the matter on anon.cafe, I'll repost it here. Hitler's Table Talks, page 385. "Setting the best man at the head of the State—that's the most difficult problem in the world to solve. In a republic in which the whole people is called upon to elect the chief of the State, it's possible, with money and publicity, to bring the meagrest of puppets to power. In a republic in which the reins of power are in the hands of a clique made up of a few families, the State takes on the aspect of a trust, in which the shareholders have an interest in electing a weakling as President, so that they may play an important part themselves. A hereditary monarchy is a biological blunder, for a man of action regularly chooses a wife with essentially feminine qualities, and the son inherits his mother's mildness and passive disposition. In a republic that sets at its head a chief elected for life, there's the risk that he will pursue a policy of personal self-interest. In a republic where the Chief of State changes every five or ten years, the stability of the government is never assured, and the execution of long-term plans, exceeding the duration of a lifetime, is thereby compromised. If one sets at the head of the State an old man who has withdrawn from all worldly considerations, he is only a puppet, and inevitably it's other men who rule in his name. Thinking over all that, I've arrived at the following conclusions: 1. The chances of not setting a complete idiot at the head of the State are better under the system of free elections than in the opposite case. The giants who were the elected German Emperors are the best proof of this. There was not one of them of whom it can truly be said that he was an imbecile. In the hereditary monarchies, on the other hand, there were at least eight kings out of ten who, if they'd been ordinary citizens, would not have been capable of successfully running a grocery. 2. In choosing a Chief of State, one must call upon a personality who, as far as human beings can judge, guarantees a certain stability in the exercise of power for a longish while. This is a necessary condition, not only so that public affairs can be successfully administered, but in order to make possible the realisation of great projects. 3. Care must be taken that the Chief of State will not succumb to the influence of the plutocracy, and cannot be forced to certain decisions by any pressure of that sort. That's why it's important that he should be supported by a political organisation whose strength has its roots in the people, and which can have the upper hand over private interests. In the course of history, two constitutions have proved themselves: (a) The papacy, despite numerous crises—the gravest of which, as it happens, were settled by German emperors—and although it is based on a literally crazy doctrine. But as an organisation on the material level, the Church is a magnificent edifice. (b) The constitution of Venice, which, thanks to the organisation of its Government, enabled a little city-republic to rule the whole eastern Mediterranean. The constitution of Venice proved itself effective as long as the Venetian Republic endured—that is to say, for nine hundred and sixty years.
>>1089 [...] As regards the government of Germany, I've come to the following conclusions: 1. The Reich must be a republic, having at its head an elected chief who shall be endowed with an absolute authority. 2. An agency representing the people must, nevertheless, exist by way of corrective. Its role is to support the Chief of State, but it must be able to intervene in case of need. 3. The task of choosing the Chief shall be entrusted, not to the people's assembly, but to a Senate. It is, however, important that the powers of the Senate shall be limited. Its composition must not be permanent. Moreover, its members shall be appointed with reference to their occupation and not individuals. These Senators must, by their training, be steeped in the idea that power may in no case be delegated to a weakling, and that the elected Fuehrer must always be the best man. 4. The election of the Chief must not take place in public, but in camera. On the occasion of the election of a pope, the people does not know what is happening behind the scenes. A case is reported in which the cardinals exchanged blows. Since then, the cardinals have been deprived of all contact with the outside world, for the duration of the conclave! This is a principle that is also to be observed for the election of the Fuehrer: all conversation between (? with) the electors will be forbidden throughout operations. 5. The Party, the Army and the body of officials must take an oath of allegiance to the new Chief within the three hours following the election. 6. The most rigorous separation between the legislative and executive organs of the State must be the supreme law for the new Chief. Just as, in the Party, the SA and the SS are merely the sword to which is entrusted the carrying-out of the decisions taken by the competent organs, in the same way the executive agents of the State are not to concern themselves with politics. They must confine themselves exclusively to ensuring the application of laws issued by the legislative power, making appeal to the sword, in case of need. Although a State founded on such principles can lay no claim to eternity, it might last for eight to nine centuries. The thousand-year-old organisation of the Church is a proof of this—and yet this entire organisation is founded on nonsense. What I have said should a fortiori be true of an organisation founded on reason."
>>1086 I definitely get the logic behind it. I just think that it could be bad if great men were kept from power by there being a monopoly on leadership within a family. But I guess if a great man was really destined for power he would find his way there one way or another. There are certainly less bad kings than there are bad presidents and the like
>>1091 What you're referring to is absolute monarchy. Monarchies can be either decentralized or centralized states and I think during antiquity and the medieval age most of them were decentralized where they had families of the same kin ruling the kingdom/empire. I understand the worry that having one guy ruling a nation alone can be dangerous and lead cause instability and maybe even subversion of a nation, which is why I'm also agaisnt autocratic rule or any type of state where one guy rules the nation alone. And we aren't the only ones, because most fascists were agaisnt this as well.
>>1091 My idea of the hereditary principle wasn't absolute confinement to a single family. You want the successors to be selected from a family with a proven track record and good genes, but if no successor can satisfy the (already very high) minimum standards, their right to succeed must be annulled, and the process applied again either to other honored families, prominent individuals, or even promising youths if all else fails. In this case, whatever Aryan religious organization tends to the country should do an independent screening on the spiritual health of the candidate, and sword duels allowed for challenging that position. Hitler's idea of a closed electoral senate could be vital here, for applying those high standards and deciding the best candidate out of the very elite. Still, their decision must be overturned if another qualified candidate wins in a duel, it should be considered divine providence. The national assembly would also have its corrective power by protesting and overturning clearly wrong decisions about a candidate's fitness or lack thereof. A playboy won't stand public scrutiny, and an ubesmensch won't be disregarded unfairly. The hereditary part comes into play even more strongly here, since the ruling family has a vested interest to cultivate their bloodline into the best of the best. If they slack off even once on the eugenics and education, they risk losing the throne and their honor in a single generation. If a family manages to maintain this for several generations, too, I believe it is fair to say they are favored by the Gods. As I said, in the ideal masculine state, the lines between one type of government and the other are blurred, even the serene republic, since strength will be the one that wins out in all cases.
>>1099 Interesting. I think that's an interesting idea of a system. It reminds me of something that Hitler said in Table Talk about how he anticipated the SS becoming within a generation or two after his time the sole pool out of which all leadership in the Reich would come. Due to the extremely strict standards of purity in the SS, this would necessarily be a small body of people, and would very likely serve as a good pool for leaders, since like your idea they would have proven track records and good genes. Basically Hitler was building a new social order of Kshatriyas. If someone's son is highly qualified there's no real reason to not let him in power, that's definitely true, especially if he's already in the elite of the elite racially and spiritually speaking
Why nigger music (rap) became so popular?
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>>1148 You already know the answer.
>>1149 This picture doesn't make clear that jews also write the lyrics and music for the songs, so the nigger is essentially just a puppet being danced around on a stage. This is also why you always see so much occult symbolism in pop/rap music videos, don't think drug addicted niggers understand that shit for a second.
>>1112 >>1146 I'd argue that this society of the racially elite should be hereditary but not strictly closed off to newcomers. So families within the nation that have proven themselves to be exemplary can be added to the society, and families in the society that lose their high status can be removed. There would be high requirements for this (legally codified?) and additions/removals would be confirmed by a vote from the society. Then people in the society can be chosen for leadership positions and confirmed by a vote. It's extremely important to not have it strictly hereditary and to understand that this organization is not separate from the nation, but just the best of it. Otherwise after several hundred years you'd get what happened to the Spartans.
>>1148 As if niggers would've been better without rap.
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>>1194 That's besides the point. The point is that rap music is far beyond just some nigger hobby now, and it has been made absolutely 100% mainstream. Whites probably consume over all more jungle beats than niggers at this point. >>1189 I'd definitely agree with that. So long as they can meet the standards there's no reason not to let them in. Though of course the SS never got to reach its full potential, they were taking in whoever could meet the standards - which were, obviously, very very strict, but open to anyone who could meet them. We want a natural aristocracy of blood. These are the true leaders and the true elite.
What does profit sharing mean, as said in point 14 of the 25 Points of the NSDAP? "14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises."
Also, who coined the term National Socialism? I don't believe Hitler every claimed to have, and he certainly wasn't constantly parading himself around as the inventor of it. Could be wrong though. What I do know is that the DAP (German Workers' Party) was founded in January 1919, Hitler joined in September 1919, then in February 1920 Hitler gives a speech proclaiming these 25 points, and on the same day the party is renamed to the National Socialist German Workers' Party. So sometime between that period someone came up with it, unless they already had it in mind beforehand. The evidence is pointing to Hitler coining the term, and it's not unlikely he came up with it beforehand.
>>1356 I always took it as referring to a demand for some of the profit of an enterprise to accrue to the workers who helped generate it. >>1357 Rudolf Kjellén, a Swede, was an early user of the term “national socialism”. I don’t know if he coined it though, since I think there was some Austrian party who may have been using the name “National Socialist” in the early 1900s too. It’s quite possible Hitler had an influence in it being adopted though
https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/07/national-socialism-and-christianity-are-incompatible/ >NATIONAL SOCIALIST and Christian concepts are incompatible. The Christian churches build upon the ignorance of man and strive to keep large portions of the people in ignorance because only in this way can the Christian churches maintain their power. On the other hand, National Socialism is based on scientific foundations. Why do people keep insisting that National Socialism is mere science? Do they not have any awareness that by claiming that NS is only scientific only leads to the same degeneracy that liberals used to justify their fetishes?
>>1412 Sounds to me like you're conflating German Science and jewish "Science".
>>1413 >Sounds to me like you're conflating German Science and jewish "Science". Or maybe you're suffering from brain damage. National Socialism isn't a science. It's not about science nor was its only influence was of science. If you're one of the types who think muh IQ is a way of indicating superiority then it goes to show how much of faggot you are.
Where the fuck is everybody? All the imageboards are fucking dead, all the /pol/ boards are flooded with retarded threads about stupid shit like nigger rap etc, instead of important pressing issues and we lost at least half out userbase from the move to this place it feels like. Where did everyone go? Serious shit is going down in the real world
>>1448 What other mediums do you think they are using? Imageboards on the dark web?
>>1412 Science =/= jewish science. Science is just a tool to understand the natural world. It (in a pure form) doesn’t tell us anything about morals, aesthetics, consciousness or the application of scientific research. Modern science is basically a state-funded apparatus that is used to institute technocratic control over the populace, and on top of that is largely materialistic. Materialism, also the worldview of most leftists, naturally leads to degeneracy because it is completely void of values. Leftists just have some wishywashy post-Christian slave morality as what they believe as programmed in by their masters. National Socialism is naturally in harmony with science, i.e. true science, but it is not just “mere science”. >>1447 >we lost at least half out userbase from the move to this place it feels like. Where did everyone go? This always happens when a board moves really for whatever reason. It seems like it takes a while for everyone to filter over completely. Some people don’t make it either, and only discover the board again after months. Moves aren’t great for boards, and unfortunately /fascist/ has probably moved more than any other board post-8chan. >>1448 is probably onto something too
>>1428 >muh IQ >needs >>1452 to spell out my implication instead of simply using a search engine or realizing the difference yourself Looks like you could use my high pattern recognition IQ, actually. Lurk more instead of spilling your spaghetti next time.
>>883 Well I've decided to work on a computer security/internet privacy guide. My question is should I make it an in-depth tutorial (for example, how to install linux with full disk encryption, use pgp, things like this) or have it be a list of things to know and starting points to do your own research on?
>>1465 Don't cover the basics in the tutorial like FDE, PGP. Those tutorials are already available if you lurk. I request you to cover advanced topics of setting up intrusion detection and prevention system (both network and host) plus the topic of defending against unknown zero days.
>>1451 I've seen a lot of this. Mainly in christcuck circles of all things, I was amazed at the number of references to "merchants" and the "hollowcost" being fake. Moreover, on cucked platforms that give upcooms, that kind of discussion dominates everything else right now. The darknet imageboards may be comfy and based, but I've been getting Whitepilled by literal normies lately. It's still unlikely any of these people will take initiative, though, the truly redpilled have a responsibility to lead the way, destabilize the system, and accelerate until these blessed normalfriends have no choice but to fight as well.
>>1452 >Science =/= jewish science The obessession of science is still Judaic and gay. Stop trying to differenate jewish science when Whites were degenerate with science as well without the jews during the pre-modern era. The point here is that National Socialism isn't a science nor is it all about science. You still haven't given a mindful response how science can't lead to ethno-narcissism and degeneracy. >>1456 I like how it took the one guy to respond for you to make a response back and only to say something even more retarded and meaningless as your futurism posts. And then proceed to act like the typical faggot you are when you're ever you're arguing on this board. You don't have a high IQ otherwise it wouldn't take you so long to respond back to me and should of at least say something worthwhile.
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>>1473 The only "obessession" is yours for misconstruing "scientific foundations" within the context of how Christians believe the fall of our civilizations is inevitable and Jesus will show up any minute now. It's simply shorter than saying "based on countless observations on interactions from various peoples including our own within the bounds of reality and Nature's Law unlike Christcucks" or "all you fuckups are doing it wrong here is what actually works". You haven't even revealed what you would rather have them say, despite nearly anyone else being fine with what's already there. What is your grand alternative? The observations of the rise and fall of civilizations and dealing with the implications is a science like any other, one that National Socialism tackles better than anything else, and you are sperging because you are associating it with post-Einstein jewish university-bound "Science" that is blind to nature, hostile to our future and wholly funded and manipulated by the enemy for most of the last century. German science vs jewish "science" is basic bitch shit everyone learned on /pol/ over 5 years ago. Further sperging over IQ for no apparent reason in the midst of midwit IQ memes spreading here and everywhere else is just as suspect, hence my telling you to lurk. And now, "your futurism posts" as if everyone on /fascist/ agrees with them and they're set in stone as board law. Are you finally satisfied enough to do so instead of acting like a tourist, or can you bring an actual argument instead of aping /b/? 18 years ago a /b/tard would have done something other than sperg by now.
>>1473 National Socialism isn’t a science nor is it all about science, it’s exactly as you say, and this was said in my previous post when I said that “it is not just “mere science””. In fact, at least half of my post should have been read as downplaying the importance of science, as seen when I called it “just a tool”. If National Socialism is true (and I think it is), it is naturally in harmony with the truth, and therefore true science. All science means is knowledge. National Socialism is in harmony with true knowledge about things. I don’t think this should be controversial. >You still haven't given a mindful response how science can't lead to ethno-narcissism and degeneracy I never said science by itself won’t lead to degeneracy or hedonism. This is why I spent time in my previous post saying how materialism, which is the viewpoint of the vast majority of scientists, is “completely void of values”. I’m not sure why you are referring to futurism when talking to the other guy, because there is no indication that they are the same people. Futurism is basically an outgrowth of jewish science.
A lady "forced" me to adopt her cat a couple years ago. Just got a flier in the mail saying I have to pay for a license for any pets I have. I'm not paying for a license to have this cat. It has finally hit home for me that everything is illegal and laws are meaningless, only selectively enforced when the state wants something from you. I knew this on some level before, but I have really internalized it now. This cat license makes me really mad. Fucking jews.
>>1495 Cats are worse than dogs. Still gay that the state wants to fuck you over tho
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>>1495 It's anarcho-tyranny. The state will allow niggers to rampage and destroy the entire society for weeks and months on end over a drug addict, but they will still make sure to milk us of every last shekel.
>>1496 I'm a nice man. I took the lady's cat so it wouldn't be put down at a shelter. It would be easier not to have it, though. >>1497 It is very painful. That we put up with it at all is the worst part.
>>1465 >>1467 The security stuff is a bit of a joke if you're using anything modern and standard. Basically everything has become too complicated, and they're now relying on mitigations because they know their code is fucked. So they'll just keep making things more complicated and brittle, when in fact it should be the opposite. So my advice to you is simplify everything to the max. Not only this avoids a ton of problems, but it gives you the option to use older and weaker hardware that itself isn't completely fucked like all modern processors. Just as an example of how utterly stupid the modern devs are, they're pushing for Rust as a solution to C's problems. Rust is new, unproven, and you can't even build the fucking thing on a computer with 2 GB or less memory (which is most of the ones with processors that don't do speculative execution, HONK! HONK!) In contrast, the DOD and aerospace industry was using Ada decades ago, with good results. I could build stuff with the GNU Ada95 compiler on a 33 MHz 486DX with 4 MB RAM running Slackware, in 1995. I had to, because that's what my CS prof had us using for our projects. But you won't see anyone using a proven language like that today, not even in open source world, because they all have their heads stuck up their asses! So yeah, find ways to simplify TO THE MAX! Otherwise you're just gonna waste time and go down the same path as those stupid fuckers. Anyway that's all I wanted to say.
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>>1498 I'm sure your cat appreciates it, anon. Hopefully you can figure the problem out.
>>1498 that's so fucked that you have to conform, eventually at least
>>1503 I will never pay for a license for this cat. They can arrest me for it. It's just another way jews fleece gullible rubes. It was shocking to me to get that flier, though. I could see why someone might have to license a dangerous breed of dog. A cat license is absurd. They will pay for this.
As I take time to digest and realize what we're facing and what reality is (even if I've not entirely come to terms with it) I'm beginning to understand the necessity of violence and hardship. I'm especially coming to realize what Anons have tried telling me before (here and otherwise) that honor only works if the enemy is fighting under the same rules. I realize I've been foolish in the past, so I apologize for my sentimentality. I'm starting to understand what others have tried to tell me in the past.
>>1508 Pay the kitty fine and try to not go to jail for it, its a big deal yeah but just find some way to deal with it man..
>>1509 Methinks you meant to reply to the anon above me. My kitty cat's all good and set.
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>>1509 It was a flier in my mail, as far as I know everyone got it. I don't think .gov knows I have the cat. Haven't been fined. >>1508 It is difficult to come to terms with. It's one thing to read and see clips, it's another to internalize it.
>>1510 Oh yeah, Sorry! honest mistake
>>1512 Internalizing it is what I'm training myself to do. I smile and laugh with my family and I think on what I've learned, what reality is, and what that means for our future. What that means for me. It's been a tough time, but one I think is necessary. >>1513 No problem at all anon
>>1512 Baller then! hide your kitty so the goverment doesn't take it
>>1512 >I don't think .gov knows I have the cat. In that case, you're probably good. It's not like they're likely to figure it out either
>>1500 Sometimes you just have to deal with modern hardware. In other cases there's a limit how much you can simplify things before you loose basic functionality. And this basic functionality still has possibility to be exploited. Simplification is good, but not enough I think. If some shit happens you have to know it. Also something as old as 486 probably won't even run tor.
>>1467 >>1500 >>1518 I will talk about intrusion detection and how to deal with hardware vulnerabilities and backdoors. Basically the guide is going to be split into two sections, section one explaining how to avoid general corporate tracking (ads) and dragnet government surveillance, section two will explain how to attempt to avoid more direct surveillance. One thing I'm trying to research is how to deal with the NSA intercepting packages containing your computer and putting a hardware backdoor in, which is something they actually do. Does anyone know how to deal with that?
>>1530 Only way is with tamper-proof packaging and inspecting the hardware itself. Pretty hard for the average person to detect, I would think. Here is an example of a Bitcoin hardware wallet which comes with a clear plastic outer so you can inspect it. It also comes in tamper-proof packaging, and is open source. I don't think you can buy computer equipment in this fashion, but it is an example of what could be done to combat the issue you raised. https://coldcardwallet.com/
>>1518 Well if you're already making execuses, then you're already going down the wrong path. But hey that's your choice, I just had to say my piece, fair warning and all that.
>>943 Kind of, I am sure some of those are among their number but I am mostly referring to christians who think being pagan and Anti-christian is Satanism and saying advocacy for more tarrant and breivik like stuff makes one a "hollywood Nazi".
>>1496 Cats are better pest control than dogs and Dogs are better hunting companions than cats they each have a purpose, neither is worse than the other unless you are just a fucking horrible person and one of them hates you.
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>>1538 >unless you are just a fucking horrible person and one of them hates you Animals are one of the best subhuman detectors
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>>1540 >Animals are one of the best subhuman detectors
I think africans (north africans specially) could thrive with a strong White leader what do you guys think?
>>1549 Nah, we're done with this White man's burden shit. If they can get their stuff together by themselves, good for them, if not, whatever.
>>1549 Yeah nah. Africans (that aren't White) have proven themselves completely incapable of progressing or making something worthy of themselves. With or without us, they belong in the mud. Leave them to it, until we want colonial lands. Then we shuffle them off or put them down.
>>1500 >a solution to C's problems I wasn't aware C had any problems? How hard is it for these cucks to plot out a logical procedure and just fucking write it. I'm starting to believe the layers of abstraction in all these soylangs are only there to accommodate for these mongrels' subhuman IQs. I've yet to see a single use-case that C can't cover with complete ease and elegance.
>>1530 >One thing I'm trying to research is how to deal with the NSA intercepting packages containing your computer and putting a hardware backdoor in, which is something they actually do. Does anyone know how to deal with that? Just buy it from a store instead of online if you are that worried about it.
>>1579 C is pretty good but easy to leak resources and create security holes without garbage collection or RAII. It's getting a lot better with static analysis tools, linters, automated test suites, and fuzzers though. Check out one of Seacord's books on writing secure C if you want to know what some of the problems are on the security side.
does anyone have those eren & hitler/nazi eren images?
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>>1638 thank god
>>1638 thanks.
Also I should've asked in my original post, but does anyone have links to our other TOR imageboards? I'm aware of 2 but I lost the links unfortunately.
>>1655 There's also Picochan, assuming you are aware of Neu and Nein: http://picochanwvqfa2xsrfzlul4x4aqtog2eljll5qnj5iagpbhx2vmfqnid.onion Picochan also has a /fascist/ archive of Anon Cafe
>>1656 Thanks, could you link Neu and Nein too? They're the ones I lost the links to.
>>1657 You can find Neu in the meta thread. Nein I don't have the link for anymore since they are run by a bunch of niggerbrained retards
>>1658 thanks.
>>1495 How does a lady force you to adopt a cat?
>>1495 WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
>>1495 Just deny you have any pets lol what can they do? It's not yours, you're just babysitting it for your sister/mother/whatever vacation or hospitalization bla bla bla, surely they can't prove it the contrary. Be a bit creative man.
>>1667 >Your dog doesn't have a microchip >Don't know who it belongs to In the near future >Your kid doesn't have a microchip >We are taking your kid away
Could someone point out to me what constitutes an Aryan? I'm still learning so the word makes me think 'Blonde haired, blue eyed White person" but I've heard others say that this isn't a requirement. Is an Aryan a White person of European descent? I understand there was an ancient tribe of the same name but I'm referring to how the word applies today.
>>1708 An Aryan is an Ubermensch of the White race, to be or consider yourself one you must be spritually Aryan, and physically Aryan.
>>1714 I see
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>>1708 As the other anon says, I see it as a conjunction of racial and spiritual traits. The original meaning of the term Aryan seemed to indicate both nobility, honor and being of a certain ethnic / racial group. Anyone can be merely "White" - not everyone can be an Aryan.
>>1721 Understandable. I ask because I've seen anons all but denounce anyone that isn't Aryan regardless of whether or not they're White, including people that would stand shoulder to shoulder with them. So I wanted to ask, see if there was something I was missing.
>>1723 Who would stand shoulder to shoulder with us that we are turning away? the Christians? they are our enemy just like the fictional jew they follow.
>>1729 I didn't specify anyone of any religion nor did I say it was all of you. I should've been more specific. I've seen fascists across the *internet* push away folks if they're not Aryans fitting the bill the anons above set out. So I wanted to try and get some understanding of who or what counts as Aryan, since it was always said but no one bothered to explain it.
>>1730 That's us trying to either draw out the Aryan within the person or turn them away if they either do not want to or are not ready to live up to that ideal. It is natural and should happen and will likely keep happening until all Whites are Aryan or all save the Aryans among our race are dead.
>>1731 I see.
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During the Nuremberg Trials, why would Göring say that they'd be building statues of him? Wouldn't that line cause future NS in Germany to not build statues of him? Was that line "edited in"?
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>>1708 An Aryan is a pure blooded descendent of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. I'm sure you've noticed that the European languages are more similar to each other than they are to non-European languages. This is because they are part of a language family. Essentially, many millennia ago, they were one language, and as its speakers migrated around (conquered), their languages slowly diverged into different groups. Of course, the language wasn't the only thing that was unified, their culture, religion and (bold) race was too. This is why pre-Christian European religions are so similar to each other. As you can see in pic related, Iranians and Northern Indians speak Indo-European languages too. However they are not of the Aryan race because the Proto-Indo-Europeans that migrated there mixed with the natives. You can see a similar thing in the ex-Spanish/Portuguese colonies of America. Why are we called Aryans? It's believed the PIEs might have refereed to themselves as "Aryans". "Arya" is a root word in Indo-European languages, meaning noble. You can see leftovers of this in the country names of Iran and Ireland. Linguists before a certain, erm, war usually refereed to the PIEs as Aryans, but they changed the name to avoid association with fascism.
Ancap flag Why is this allowed on here?
>>1794 We've always had a few non-Fascist flags since even the original 8chan board. There used to be a couple more non-Fascist flags but I am not sure where they went. They are here because in principle I don't mind non-Fascists coming here and trying to debate, so long as they don't shit up the board and just troll. That's said in the meta thread here. Also a good side-effect of having these flags like this is that retarded outsiders will come in, use the flag, and readily mark themselves out.
>>1721 > Anyone can be merely "White" No, they can not.
>>1806 Any White person can be merely White
>>1579 >I'm starting to believe the layers of abstraction in all these soylangs are only there to accommodate for these mongrels' subhuman IQs. You are right anon
>>1807 And what is that you call "merely White"?
>>1809 Being White in race but not acting White in mind and spirit. And before someone tries to spring this on me, the condition of being White is necessary for the state of being an Aryan, if not sufficient.
>>1810 > Being White in race but not acting White And who did you analyse to formulate this theory? Did you test their DNA to ensure they weren't race mixed?
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>>1811 I don't see why you would even reach this conclusion. Or do you mean to tell me that the degenerates on the right are just as much paragons of the ideal White man as those on the left?
>>1817 > Or do you mean to tell me that the degenerates on the right are just as much paragons of the ideal White man as those on the left? There is no such thing as "left" and "right" nowadays. > I don't see why you would even reach this conclusion I did not reach a conclusion, I made a question, and you did not answer it.
>>1820 >There is no such thing as "left" and "right" nowadays. I'm referring to the two the images I posted, anon. On my screen at least, the picture of the SS soldiers is on the left-hand side, and the fags are the right-hand side. >I made a question, and you did not answer it. I came to this conclusion myself
>>1790 I appreciate the answer. I ask because like I said, I've seen folks before (and on other boards or sites) outright denounce anyone that's White but doesn't fit their Aryan ideal. I advise against this because if it's spiritual/ethical then you have to try and encourage that in people and you'll never *get* more of these people if you just tell them to fuck off or say you'd see them hung for existing. If it's racial and they don't perfectly fit the Aryan ideal, but are still White, then similarly to abandon them or say they'd be shunned or worse because of that will cut any fascist movement's throat before it moves further. I understand I sound like I'm henpecking and to some, probably being annoying, but I've seen movements and ideologies and groups kill themselves by being too exclusive. It's why I personally don't ascribe to the aryanist school of thought. There's an ideal we should all strive to reach and some simply won't, I accept and understand that. But don't let that stop us before we can get running again.
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>>1540 >its real
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>>1829 I own a Shepard myself and I don't think I've ever seen such a look of terror on mine. That poor animal, no wonder they keep biting people at the White House
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>>1828 >I understand I sound like I'm henpecking and to some, probably being annoying No problem, anon. You're asking in good faith and using the correct thread so it's cool
>>1832 I appreciate it anon. I'm tryin' to learn so that's why I'm asking so many questions. have to say I've had far better luck on this and other fascist boards and threads than I have in, say, communist boards and threads. Those places you can never get a word in edge wise.
>>1834 Dropping the /pol/ name and news-centric board culture really allows for better quality posts and stuff to get attention. And if you were ever trying to get questions on /leftypol/ I already can imagine how that went kek. They just post schizobabble and tell you to read some boring irrelevant shit from the 1860s or 1910s. I've read some of it, and didn't come away from it feeling very stimulated.
>>1836 Oh it's been all over the place to try and get a good sprawl of sources. /leftypol/, places on reddit and discord, shitty little sites on facebook and aorund the interwebs, etc. Very rarely did I find anything that actually helped me understand. I think the best discussions I had on the subject of communism was from a NazBol woman who I had frequent chats with.
>>1836 leftypol are sneering faggots who argue (poorly) for the sake of ego rather than understanding. funny how they made a separate board to cope with getting triggered by the rest of pol.
>>1841 >leftypol are sneering faggots who argue (poorly) for the sake of ego rather than understanding Seems to be my experience as well. I used to browse /leftypol/ and /leftpol/ quite often back on 8chan, and it's simply amazing how they can't agree on anything, and routinely accuse one another of complete misunderstanding of Marx / Lenin / Engels, whoever. When you have an entire board of people (allegedly) reading the same core of texts, one wonders why there is so little consensus outside of 'capitalism bad' It is jewish, obviously, but still. The simplest explanation is that they don't read shit and just watch tranny youtubers regurgitate half-baked philosophy
Can you debunk the whole CIA was "Nazi" or was ever agaisnt Communism?
>>1861 America recruits rocket scientist from germany Therefore america=nazi Thats their logic
>>1861 Just look at COINTELPRO shit, it was pulled against the Klan, the National States' Rights Party, Rockwell’s American Nazi Party and likely dozens of other White Nationalist groups. We know from the Klan case specifically that they are completely and utterly filled with feds and have been subverted beyond repair. COINTELPRO targeted literally everything that wasn’t explicitly ZOG
>>1828 Encouraging virtue is always good, but some people, especially those with a low self esteem and weak will, will never respond to encouragement. They may be motivated for a while, take one small step, then wallow back into an inferiority complex and emotional cuckery. When dealing with people who wish to improve but repeatedly relapse into being a beta, the only thing that will help them out is calling out the obvious: that they're basically subhuman. Being all sunshine and happiness is demoralizing for someone when they aren't improving themselves at all. They hate themselves for their weakness, and the fact that other people don't show similar hate hurts them even more. Denouncing these faults and expressing your anger over them will act as a release valve, externalize their own worries, and shift their frame of reference. When you call someone a gay retard for acting like a cuck, they stop thinking of themselves as a cuck, and begin to see themselves as inherently worthwhile people who are just behaving like niggers for no reason at all. Rather quickly, the cuck/nu-White/subhuman will get his shit together, and work to improve themselves without any external push, like an actual Aryan. That is when positive reinforcement starts working again. t. guy who dealt with this exact situation and seen the results a few insults can have
>>1864 Their logic isn't as simple as that, considering that White America has a history of treating niggers like filth, and they love to use the CIA as an excuse for why their revolutions have failed in countries like Chile and declare the CIA is Nazi for helping to empower Pinochet, which doesn't really make sense. Didn't the CIA straight up use left-wingers as a way to stop fascism from rising again and use their political theories, etc?
>>1810 I saw this 4cuckpol meme which showed the types of users of internet in woke culture - nonWhites who wished they were White and Whites who whmished they were nonWhite. Just horrible reality. Even non-Whites know that being White is the best. It's sad (or great if you're White) that a person's destiny can be tied to race.
>>1866 >the cuck/nu-White/subhuman will get his shit together, and work to improve themselves without any external push, like an actual Aryan >subhuman You mean a White subhuman. Subhumans of the brown variety can never be Aryan. Even if they improve themselves. They exist as pawns for the White man to fuck with.
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Is ethnoglobalism a realistic concept? Nearly everyone not of that ethnicity would be firmly opposed to it, barring a few "special" folks.
>>1881 >Is ethnoglobalism a realistic concept? To be honest I belive it's a retarded concept, mostly because I think there is only 2 races in the world that are truly useless or harmful for the mankind 1. jews, the Eternal Parasites who deserved to be annihilated completely from the planet Earth. 2. Niggers, underdeveloped people with a very thin relation to other ethnicities due to their extremly low intelligence. They should be treated like animals and/or deported to Africa. I have no problems with other races as long as they are follow "in Rome, do as the Romans do" and don't indulge in racemixing. Maybe in the far future where would be problems that will bring back the idea of ethnoglobe, but for now? It's basically siege posting.
>>1883 >I have no problems with other races as long as they are follow "in Rome, do as the Romans do" and don't indulge in racemixing. You forgot spics who are a race literally based on racemixing. And as for the other races, they will have to repatriate all of their ethnic individuals currently in Europe and North America as a show of good faith. If they do not, they are insidious enemies and must be dealt with.
>>1881 It's just people recognizing the need for depopulation putting a racial spin on it. Retarded edgelords here never shut the fuck up about it though, and no, it would probably not kill every non-White on the planet. It's not even worth the effort.
>>1866 Alright I can understand that. I guess what I'm sayin' is don't become so exclusive that the movement never moves, know what I mean? I'm all for pushing people to improve and am taking steps toward my own self improvement so I'm with you there.
>>1878 I've actually dealt with people like that before and it is a damn sad thing to see. Natural, but sad all the same.
>>1895 What sort of people? White libshits.
>>1905 Meant a ? at the end of the post.
>>1905 Thankfully no. Non-Whites who want to be White (or try to pass as much as possible, as is the case of a Persian man who had light skin but arabid features) and hate that they're non-White. I've met a number of non-Whites who want to *serve* the White race if they can't be White, but that's another matter.
>>1915 This is natural like a woman following a strong man. They look around at their race and see no future worth being part of. So they look above.
Most of my friends and family are conservatives. How do I redpill them? I already linked some of my friends a documentary a while back, but I don't think they watched it. I talked with them about the holohoax and given my reasons for why I think it didn't happen, and the only response they gave was about how there were survivors who said it happened.
>>1919 My advice is not to start with the Holocaust. That's a redpill for later. And when you do cover the Holocaust, the important thing is to be extremely precise with your wording and definitions. How do the jews define the Holocaust? Well of course, the jewish definition of the Holocaust was that there was a systematic and planned effort by the Third Reich from the top-down to totally exterminate the jewish people. Of this there is no proof. None. Zero. We have orders signed by Hitler from during the time of the war to do involuntarily euthanasia for schizos, retards, syphilis, dementia and other issues (which was controversial), but yet we have no orders for the exterminating all jews. Weird to me. Aktion T4 is said to have removed some 250,000 or so people, it's documented, it's signed by Hitler. This wasn't some minor irrelevant thing. Who knows if the numbers have been exaggerated, but it's important to note. There is also zero mention of exterminating jews during the war in Table Talks, or anything that would even hint at something like this going on. Even the documents of the Wannsee Conference don't mention killing jews, they mention putting them to work in labor gangs. Denying this definition of the Holocaust, this doesn't mean that jews weren't put in camps (along with others), this doesn't mean that jews didn't die from typhus and other diseases, etc. Of course there are survivors of the camps, but not of the "Holocaust". But to reiterate, don't start with the Holocaust or shit like TGSNT, especially if they are completely bluepilled normalfags. You're better off learning what jews control what media and what corporations and using this information strategically, or learning various statistics about race and IQ, or learning about chronic welfare dependency among non-Whites of all varieties.
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I wonder why everything has been so fucking slow lately, from here to Neuchan, to everywhere.
>>1948 Shedding users from constant migration. People are just trying to keep their heads above water with the pandemic economy. And nothing is happening. And the userbase has been around long enough to have already discussed most of the recurring topics to death so most non news related conversations are rehashes or people arguing just to ego mog each other.
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>>1638 >>1636 Final chapter came out. Eren was turned into some sort of incel at the last minute. Disappointing. Pic one was him a while back, in full chad-mode, but then he turned into pic two at the end.
Why is youtube shilling for Slavoj Žižek and Jordan Peterson every time?
>>1976 Žižek's just a Marxist, so it's not hard to see why he is promoted, but for Peterson it's simple - he's almost the definition of controlled opposition. The media props him up as the devil for telling young men to clean their room and wash their balls, but in truth he's not radical at all. He's highly milquetoast and he balked when was questioned directly on the JQ. He's the perfect type of figure to corral semi-normalfag young men into following, keeping them in a shade of bluepill and never going to seek deeper. Of course a subset of them will go deeper, but most won't.
>>1977 they also had a big debate within the past couple years, with the other's name probably now coming up near the top of auto-fill results if you start trying to search for one. the debate is garbage, by the way. staring at a wall for three hours is a better use of time.
>>1980 I remember watching at least part of the debate live. All I can remember is that Peterson really showed that he didn't know as much as about Marxism as he thought he did. Not to say Žižek was good, I can't even remember what he said. I hate listening to him
>>1955 Honestly I'm not even mad about that part. It's the last time he's talking to his friend so it makes sense for him to finally get his true feelings about her out. I hate the fucking plot point about Ymir and setting his friends up to be heroes for killing him.
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>>2009 In itself I agree that that's not really a bad line. One could meme about incels, but I don't think that line is beyond believability for someone to say. What I'm not sure of though is whether I like Eren having romantic feelings for Mikasa. Historia would have made a lot more sense given the things that happened, and Historia having Eren's baby at the end would have been more satisfying than some literal-who like Farmer-kun. It's not all bad, at the very least the Yeagerists control Paradis and have established a /fascist/ dictatorship, and 80% of the planet was killed by Eren, and Historia even says that coexistence may not be possible. I wasn't even expecting to get this much from the rumbling, really. And yeah Ymir loving the king was retarded. Her being a slave and latching onto Eren's desire for freedom was more compelling. The most kino ending would have been full ethnoglobe and Eren holding his child saying "you're free now" like we were originally told the last panel would be even though it was Grisha. I am having a feeling that I will like the ending a bit more when I see it animated, even though the last few chapters were capeshit-tier
>anime >being unsatisfying You don't say? Of course non-Whites aren't going to write a happy ending for you. In their eyes you're a tool at best, an enemy at worst.
>>2031 In truth, I think Nips just can’t write good endings. They’re literally incapable of doing so, and have proved this time and time again with multiple manga, anime and works of literature over the centuries
>>2034 I've heard his Japanese audience loves the ending.
>>2035 I’m not surprised in the slightest. Japanese people probably think the shit endings their countrymen nearly always write are pure kino. I’ve noticed with Mishima too—and his stuff is quite the step above shit-tier zuihitsu / I-novel literature—that he’ll often abruptly end his works with an anticlimax. This happened in Decay of the Angel, Confessions of a Mask, The Temple of the Golden Pavilion, etc. Genji Monogatari, written centuries earlier, ends mid-sentence abruptly. I think they just can’t do it. Mishima’s novels aren’t even really Japanese, that’s why he stands out from the crowd so much. From what I’ve read he’s more influenced by the style of German philosophical novels than the native style of his country, though he of course adopts some inevitably.
>>2031 >literally every non-White sees literally every White as cattle ok schizo >>2034 What exactly do you mean? I ask this because I'm not too versed in jap media. Are you saying that they have a fetish for bad ends, or that they have a habit of making anticlimactic/confusing endings? If the latter is true, could that be a matter of national philosophy? After all, there is no such thing as "happily ever after" and no story ever truly ends until everybody dies. The characters live on through life's beautiful chaos until entropy or misfortune pull the final curtain. Perhaps this is the philosophy of japanese authors: "The end of the story isn't the end of the characters, it's simply the end of the part I can be bothered to write about and you can be bothered to read." Thus leading to ends that don't actually feel like the end. We europeans on the other hand have a fetish for punctuation and closure thus leading to every good story having a solid ending. Here's a random, probably retarded, thought: I saw a video on (((Youtube))) where some guy explained that the reason japanese music often sounds eerie or dreamy is because of differing musical theory between our cultures. Classical musical theory likes "punctuation" whereas japanese music cares not about such matters. Perhaps our differing musical tastes have influences our thought processes and thus our storywriting habits? Or perhaps vice versa? I'll try to track down the video after I get back from the gym.
Are capitalism and communism really the same?
>>2051 Yes, ultimately they are two sides of the same techo-industrial coin when you strip away the outer guise. Communism is just industrialism with increased technocracy and state-ownership complete with a coat of red paint. Capitalism inevitably leads to consolidation and near-monopolies of the most powerful corporations as well, which is why commies have talked about capitalism evolving into communism. While that is not strictly true, in truth both socialism and capitalism evolve into technocratic states.
>>2053 Do you know how to ride a bike anon? if you do i'll care about your opinion more
>>2059 Yes, I know how to ride a bike, but I don’t see how it’s relevant.
>>2059 Lol what?
>>2011 Let me get something straight here. You're pro ethnoglobe but you read literature made by non-Whites?
What's the best way to get caught up with crucial European history? Any time I try to search for books it's always World War II shit, a book that looks really informative but is almost $100 or more, or it's too specific of a topic to prove useful. I'd like to avoid reading shit on my monitor as much as possible.
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.>>2047 I had seen people discuss this topic on /lit/ before, so I went and looked at the archives to see if I could dig up any of well-written posts on this topic. It seems like other people have put forward similar theories as you have, e.g. that life goes on after the events of the story. One of the screenshots I've attached deals with this as well and I was thinking about it before I looked at the archives, that it might have something to do with their appreciation of the transcience / ephemerality of things. This is all well and good, but even besides this I've noticed so many anime that have started out promising but just go to complete shit by the end. It might be somewhat connected with what you're talking about and what the screenshots are saying, but I don't know. A lot of really might just be different aesthetic tastes. With the Mishima works I mentioned, it's not that the endings are "bad" in the same way some of these anime are, but they definitely feel strange - for example - <Confessions of a Mask The protagonist goes to a seedy Americanized dance-hall with some girl, and becomes enraptured with some thug's muscles, and fantasizes about how he'd like to see him stabbed with a knife. He suddenly snaps out of it and has some some experience of some sort of 'terrible non-being'" <Decay of the Angel The character Honda goes to a Buddhist monastery and meets with a woman he knew from decades earlier, asking her about their mutual friend who died long ago. The woman earnestly says she has no clue who he is talking about, and there is a description of absolute stillness, silence and emptiness, and the sound of cicadas. The novel ends <Temple of the Golden Pavilion The protagonist Mizoguchi burns down the temple and then runs away to a nearby mountain. He sits down, smokes a cigarette and suddenly decides not to commit suicide. Novel abruptly ends In case you didn't want to read the spoilers, with Mishima we see some sort of build-up, and then it at the last moment all collapses into some sort of nihilistic void, or the entire thing becomes a farce. I think he's purposely doing this here, though
>>2065 A Study of History by Toynbee A History of Europe by Roberts
>>2065 Who We Are, by WLP and March of the Titans by Kemp. Disregard anything else if you wish for the truth.
>>2064 Is there some kind of point here? they exist now, and not all of them suck like your average nigger or spic or jap, but even the "based" ones should be killed for the security of our peoples future.
>>2074 Whenever you see a person posting on Tor, mentioning ethnoglobe and making everything about ethnoglobe and crying about non-Whites, don't respond. It's a shill. He's easy to spot too. Always short posts, always very irrelevant to the larger post he's replying to.
>>2075 Ethnoglobe isn't even doable now, not most important thing any time soon. I could easily agree to a world with 80% Whites and our own beautiful strong countries, not risk of invasion at all because we will have our armies and power at full. Only jews all of them I want to see gone, we were too much nice and patient and see where we are again. Also are all threads of previous /fascist/ gone? Can't BO displace all htmls or something I dont now what can be done but it's too sad to see all threads gone. It's like blackpills. Why post if BO doesn't protect the board? Feels like the time is wasted.
Can you give me a perfect description of a Nordic person.
>>2098 >Also are all threads of previous /fascist/ gone? Almost every single thread has been captured and archived on archive.is and the BO of Picochan has created a static archive of Anon Cafe /fascist/ on Picochan: http://picochanwvqfa2xsrfzlul4x4aqtog2eljll5qnj5iagpbhx2vmfqnid.onion/fascist/ Along with that, almost every thread ever is archived to some extent from the old boards: https://web.archive.org/web/*/8ch.net/fascist/ https://web.archive.org/web/*/julay.world/fascist/ >It's like blackpills. Why post if BO doesn't protect the board? Feels like the time is wasted. The way I see it it’s the anons that really matter, since they produce the good content. Sucks that we couldn’t get our threads, but the catalog is rapidly repopulated by similar threads and new discussions, and almost all relevant threads were screencapped, archived, cloned or whatever before moving here and made easily accessible via the link-list in our meta thread.
>>210 Nordics have five distinctions from the other White subraces. 1. 6'0 or taller in males, 5'6 or taller in females. 2. Dolicephalic or mesocephalic face. 3. Light brown, red, or blonde hair. 4. Blue, hazel, or green eyes. 5. Slender build. If you meet three of the five distinctions, you are Nordic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JprO3fPgyM It was called adolfph Hitler in color. Its background theme was the Medal of honor European assault, a video game of the early thousands. Any of you have it?
>>2121 I meet 4 of your 5 descriptors, and I am, in fact, not a Nordic. I suspect, though, that most Europeans of good breed from any sub-race will fulfill these conditions, as most pure bloodlines tend towards a Nordic phenotype, even if they are demonstrably unrelated. The greatest difference I'd say is that Nordics tend to have shorter legs in relation to their bodies, along with the distinct facial structures, which are recognizable at a glance.
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>>2121 >tfw 5/5 Nord
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>>2153 This story is like six years old, but it's definitely a consistent trend with the jews. They exploit and hypersexualize them through fashion and modeling. Most clothing lines for little girls are owned by jews. Most makeup / cosmetics companies are owned by jews. Regardless of where one stands on the entire age of consent debate and its relation to feminism, they should be disgusted at the yids who are poisoning the minds of White children through fashion, cosmetics and popular entertainment. https://www.bitchute.com/video/71N0YCQtaJRK/
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>>2155 For anyone who wants to watch this video, it won't play on my end, so here's an alternative link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/qzUCy6zSwE4B/
Are there any good books on the Franco-Prussian War of 1870?
>>2149 You must have medcuck aka nigger DNA.
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>>2162 I own this and read parts of it a few years ago. I remember it being adequate
>>2155 Left one looks way cuter without make up.
>>2188 Let’s face it, almost everyone looks better without makeup if they are cute or attractive in the first place. The only people who need make-up have something to hide.
>>2190 Its still a literal child tho, wtf man?
You're always going to find the typical a-social, introverted imageboard nigger who's into pedophilia.
>>2192 >muh pedos Some people can admit that a little girl is cute without immediately thinking of pedophilia, that's almost surely why >>2190 said both cute and attractive and spoke of "everyone", i.e. all females. The fact of the matter is that they don't need to look like painted whores, which is exactly what >>2155 is showing.
>>2203 Indeed. The purpose of makeup is to make women look younger and to hide imperfections as well as improve the appearance of gene expression. These little girls don't need makeup for these very reasons, and this is why the makeup makes them look worse than they would without makeup.
How the fuck do you anons deal with it? I've spent a few days thinking and learning and reading on my own and I've come to realize you lot are right. I see degeneracy and anti-natural rhetoric and acts, I see anti-White propaganda and acts, I see homes and places that should have Whites populated instead by non-Whites. I see the hate being spewed. I see the shit in what's left of our (American) political system, I see that Whites only have each other in this world and I just get so pissed. I'm angry at it all and feel it burning every day. How do you all deal with it?
>>2210 I've been trying to think of a way to give this an adequate response for twenty or thirty minutes now on and off but I can't really find any way to give this a satisfactory response. I of course see all of the same things that you do, and they still anger me to this day at times, but in a sense I also recognize that me seething over them too accomplishes nothing positive. This doesn't mean that I fail to recognize degeneracy and fail to disapprove of it when I see it, but I don't always get angry over it. Part of the reason is because I've been redpilled for five or six years now. I'm used to this stuff, but not apathetic.
How would we change education to suit our ethnic White race? Current education methods are politically correct and useless.
>>2230 >How would we change education to suit our ethnic White race? I don't know but very carefully. Don't shove education down people's throats like happens now >Current education methods are politically correct and useless. Good, people hate it and we'll reap the benefits of it
>>2230 What we need to abandon first and foremost is egalitarianism in education Not everyone needs to learn everything they're taught, much of it is rightfully derided as useless by the very people that go to these institutions. They are not useless in themselves, but they are certainly useless for a certain kind of individual. Note that I'm not saying that we shouldn't teach people to read, or teach them basic math, history and the like, but that we should, after a certain point, more rigorously select what students go on what track. More intellectually-inclined and bright students should be gradually sorted into classes that will cultivate these traits within them. They will go above and beyond the baseline taught to everyone, and the students that just drag down the class will be in things that are better suited for their natures, and odds are they will not even be in schooling as long. For both types of students though there needs to be a greater balance between intellectual and physical education. It's embarrassing how flabby and effeminate so many young males are today. I would say that physical education needs doubled, if not tripled beyond what it is at today. I would also change things so that only the elite students are permitted into universities. Universities need to be cultivating geniuses again, not just admitting whatever vaguely humanoid creatures that apply. I would say that school uniforms are desperately needed as well across the board, much like in Japan.
>>2210 You get used to it. It helps if you cultivate an emotional and material detachment while focusing on self-improvement, so you can still partake in normalfaggotry and appear to "enjoy" things while not having your will degenerated by doing them. And continue with mental self-improvement as well as physical; the great divide in our camp at the moment is that some are still infected with Christian morality. The sooner you go lurk a blog like The West's Darkest Hour or something similar and purge every last vestige of pro-Semitic suicidal "morality" from your soul, the clearer it will become what you need to do with yourself to truly live.
Can you sum up the problems wrong with civilization, socialism, and materalism that for Nitschze to despise them?
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>>2240 >>2240 With socialists, he hated them because they were a resentful, envious mob of weak subhumans. The triumph of the socialist / anarchist / Christian worldview is leading to the complete herd-animalization of Europe, and Nietzsche saw it over a century ago. Liberalism, he said, leads to the triumph of the small, cowardly and pleasure-loving. As he says in Twilight of the Idols, both the Christian and the socialist are driven by envy and ressentiment. <“If I’m a lowlife, you should be one too”: on this logic, revolutions are built. http://faculty.umb.edu/gary_zabel/Phil_100/Nietzsche_files/Friedrich-Nietzsche-Twilight-of-the-Idols-or-How-to-Philosophize-With-the-Hammer-Translated-by-Richard-Polt.pdf Both Christians (and as can easily be seen by extension, socialists) "work in deed and truth for the degeneration of the European race " is what Nietzsche said in Beyond Good and Evil. In one of my favorite passages, we can see exactly the problems we face today summed up in a few short paragraphs: <Among humans as among every other species of animal, there is a surplus of deformed, sick, degenerating, frail, necessarily suffering individuals [...] <Now how do the two above-mentioned greatest religions treat this surplus of failed cases? They try to preserve, try to keep alive, whatever can somehow be retained of them, indeed they take their side on principle, as religions for the suffering; according to these religions, all the people who suffer from life as from an illness are in the right, and they would like to ensure that any other experience of life be considered wrong and rendered impossible. [...] <In the last analysis, earlier religions, namely absolute religions are among the main reasons that the species 'human' has been stuck on a lower rung of development-they have preserved too much of what ought to perish. And now for the key thing here: <Turn all evalu­ations upside down-that is what they had to do! And shatter the strong, debilitate the great hopes, question any joy in beauty, take everything autocratic, masculine, triumphant, tyrannical, all the instincts that belong to the highest and best-formed species of 'human', and twist them into doubt, pangs of conscience, self­-destruction, indeed reverse all love for earthly things and for mastery of the earth into a hatred of the earth and the earthly [...] <Assuming that one were able to survey the strangely painful comedy of European Christianity, as coarse as it is refined, with the mocking and disinterested eye of an Epicurean god, I think there would be no end to the astonish­ment and laughter: doesn't it seem that for eighteen centuries one will alone has ruled over Europe, set on making man into a sublime deformity? https://www.azinelibrary.org/other/Beyond_Good_and_Evil.pdf This is the exact same thing that leftism / socialism is all about, the degeneration of humanity into a meek herd-animal. What is leftism but the groan of an oppressed subhuman, a groan for revenge, mixed with envy and hatred of anyone above them, either by nature or by luck? The leftist is ugly (in all senses), therefore everything must be just as ugly as him. Anything strong, self-assertive, masculine, beautiful, triumphant, privileged, etc. is evil under the leftist / Christian scheme. Nietzsche, as you have just read, realized this, and raised the alarm. Humanity would become a degenerated race of "last men" if this was not stopped.
My dad's coaxing me to get the shot. And he said that if I don't take it, I can't be covered in insurance. I'm thinking of taking the first shot and ignoring the second. You can freely insult me for that. I have a lot of respect for those who say fuck the system and avoid the vaccine. You got balls. I know this is a QnA thread but I have nowhere else to talk about this.
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>>2241 Nietzsche sounds a lot more interesting than I originally thought. By the way, found this image elsewhere a few days ago, is this still a good list of books? If so, look forward to throwing them on the reading stack, which is very big and will sadly take ma a while to reach.
>>2258 There is a thread about the vaccine. Anyway, if you choose to get injected with kike juice because they'll cut you off from kike medicinal pseudoscience, go ahead.
>>2258 LOL Hello??? Whats wrong with you? Insurance for fucking what? YOUR INSURANCE DOES NOT COVER VACCINE RELATED DAMAGES and the vaccine is DEADLY. Just fill this out with your dad lol
>>2258 >listening to der ewige boomer about anything ever Why would someone who has made it here do this? You are superior in every way, man up and call him a dumb faggot.
>>2258 You have to resist. This an untested, experimental vaccine being tested on the world, about which we know almost nothing when it comes to long term side-effects. We already know that the short-term side-effects are not good. I have heard several people report this stuff personally. It's not just a meme, just take a look at the Covid thread here. You are probably in your twenties like the majority of the people here. You have a better chance of being hit by lightning or dying in a car crash than you do getting the meme-virus. Either find a way to persuade him, or to fake getting the vaccine, whatever it takes. I know if my boomer parents pulled this shit with me I'd be living in the woods alone somewhere. There's too much evidence it's kike poison. >>2260 He's not always interesting, sometimes he's quite dry and it's hard to figure out what his point is (and I say this someone who is well-read compared to the general population), but when he makes a good point, he absolutely nails it as far as I'm concerned. >is this still a good list of books? I've read the following on this list, at least that I can see from a quick glance <The Track of the jew Through the Ages <For My Legionaries <Hitler's Table Talk <Camp of the Saints <The Young Hitler I Knew <The Lightning and the Sun <Landmark Speeches of National Socialism <And Time Rolls On <Mein Kampf <The Holy Reich All of those are pretty solid. I'd skip The Holy Reich though. It is written by a seething jew trying to make the Third Reich look like some super Christian movement despite the evidence. With the other books I've heard good things about Rockwell, Irving, the book on central banking, The Rising Tide of Color, etc. I don't know if I'd pay any attention to the order they laid out, or some of the stuff on there but overall it's solid from what I can see.
Which version of Hitler's Table Talk is the best?
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>>2269 Ostara edition. I think it's the same as the version put out by academics (in that it's literally the same translation and formatting) but you won't be giving your money to the jews.
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>>2267 Danke anon, and noted! Reckon if I do end up ever reading it it'll be to have a laff.
>>2273 Thank you my fellow volkish friend!
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>>2275 >>2279 No problem, frens
>>172 >Nazbol tries to come on here to shill his shitty commie state as pro-White Reminder that most nazbols are either ethnically or spiritually jewish.
>>2288 Hitler dubs confirmed. Luckily that poster got gassed. He revealed himself to believe in the Holocaust and said that the USSR was pro-White.
>>285 >Hitlerian Germany was first and foremost a genocidal war machine hell-bent on murdering tens of millions of foreigners for a Lebensraum. I love how dudes who hate Hitler and claims to be agaisnt liberalism love to use liberal and jewish talking points and lies to spin their retarded narrative about the six gorillion. Also denying holodomor an ethnic genocide of White Ukrainians done by the jew is hypocrisy.
>>2289 Nazbols are just liberals who pretend to hate degeneracy and have fascist/right-wing leanings.
>>2291 Doesn't nazbol originate from a sodomite prostitute?
>>2293 Do you know any names? Because the term existed prior to WWII with people like Karl Otto Paetel, who even wrote a book with a title that had the word "National Bolshevism" in it. That doesn't mean it isn't pozzed in itself. This is really a prime case of knowing them by their fruits, because online they are absolute cancer, and even the person I just mentioned is said by Wikipedia to have been a member of the 'anti-Nazi resistance'
>>2299 I don't remember, but I do remember being told that Nazbols had a couple of homosexuals within their movement both before and now. National Bolshevikism doesn't exist, because Bolsheviks are agaisnt and exist to counter nationalism.
>>2308 >National Bolshevikism doesn't exist, because Bolsheviks are agaisnt and exist to counter nationalism. In theory one can take the socialist / communist ideas and delimit it to one nation. That's exactly why it's called National Bolshevism. It's still subversive though, obviously, because they are leftists who are *claiming* to desire some sort of nationalism, however even I would agree that this is dubious. I don't know what their ultimate aims are. Most of them today are literal trannies and fags though, so your theory about homosexual nazbols is likely based on some sort of reality.
>>2309 >In theory one can take the socialist / communist ideas and delimit it to one nation. Which just means it would be liberal nationalism and no different than modern American nationalism. >I don't know what their ultimate aims are. Most of them today are literal trannies and fags though, so your theory about homosexual nazbols is likely based on some sort of reality. It's also dumb that National Socialists are the ones being called gay when Strasserites are the usually the trannies and aren't National Socialist in the first place.
>>2312 Theoretically one could have a sort of racial communism with no problems. It would probably work better, in truth. When I say work better though this shouldn't be seen as an endorsement, because communism has still be a disaster literally everywhere it has been practiced, and really only works at a small scale, up to 150 people max.
>>2317 >Theoretically one could have a sort of racial communism with no problems Racial communism can only exist if you're not willing to go by communist theories and philosophies. Racial communism exists among jews, but is useless with Whites.
>>2317 The main problem is Communism capital C is not and never was about communism lower case c.
>>2371 Yes, I agree. At a small-scale, like I said, lowercase c communism has actually proven itself to work good enough, but uppercase C Communism is obviously just a form of Abrahamism and globalist agenda-pushing.
>>2312 >It's also dumb that National Socialists are the ones being called gay when Strasserites are the usually the trannies and aren't National Socialist in the first place. For example, leader of Russian Nazbols Edward Limonov are well known fag. In 70's he even wrote a autobiographical book (It's Me, Eddie) about his immigrant life in New York, how visited local Trostkyst and Antifa meetings and most hilarious part is about how he had sex with nigger. https://graycity.net/edward-limonov/332171-its_me_eddie.html Alexnader Dugin, who is long friend of Limonov is continuing his "cause" after Limonov death in 2020 and become unofficial leader of Russian nazbols. And he's known for his book "Homosexuality in the service of the National Liberation Movement", where he arguing that "patriots must accept homos and create homo-patriotic movement and with their help to fight decadent European sodomites "(!). And of course, Richard Spencer in USA, who's directly connected to Dugin and pushing homos as "last stand to implicit White identity". All of theses three persons are heavily involved with jews: - Limonov was a Trotskyist, and has many friends among (((Russian Antifa))) and other Left-Liberal movements in Russia. - Dugin is the best friend with Avigdor Eskin, a Zionist and named Franz Boaz and Claude-Levi Strauss who were two anti-racist jews as his main mentors. - Spencer have jewish ancestry and friend with Paul Gottfried, a jew who coined an "Alt-Right" term.
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>>2419 Damn, forgot about Spencer ancestry image.
>>2419 Why do sodomites try so hard to subvert White Nationalists? It's quite bizarre to me, but there are obviously many others, like Greg Johnson and Jack Donovan
>>2450 >Why do sodomites try so hard to subvert White Nationalists? It's quite bizarre to me, but there are obviously many others, like Greg Johnson and Jack Donovan Because they want to tarnish the image. They want normalfags to associate faggotry with fascism.
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>>2456 Do you think they are acting purposefully towards this end though? I typically just think that they are sick faggots who want more and more people to associate White Nationalism with fucking men in the ass, but whether this is their set goal, i.e. to tarnish Fascism, I am less sure. The fact that many of these figureheads are like this is certainly suggestive though.>>2456
Can someone make a hidden history of Whites people thread or whatever it was called. I don't know how the last guy organized it and the links he had that were on the last board.
>>2459 I think some degenerates just want to act out and get attention by any means. given that fascism is the most stigmatized ideology out there, it makes sense that some faggots and trannies LARP as supporters.
>>2459 >Do you think they are acting purposefully towards this end though? In my opinion, I think some do and the others don't and just want to subvert fascists. The ones that are acceptable of faggotry are usually the atheist types who don't care for religion and tradition and never cared for the cosmic order. One thing that all pro-fag types have in common is that they have connections with jews and want a homeland similar to Israel.
>>2464 You're talking about the thread that explored the ancient distribution of Whites, right? I can set up that thread again sometime tomorrow and repost the best content and stuff.
>>2507 >You're talking about the thread that explored the ancient distribution of Whites, right? Yes > I can set up that thread again sometime tomorrow and repost the best content and stuff. Thank you
Thoughts on Jackson Crawford
>>2560 I own his Havamal translation. I thought it was pretty good. Not sure about the man himself
Does anyone have info on the Persian Aryans being White and not Elamite?
>>2581 Persians came from Indo-Iranic/PIE peoples who came from in Anatolia/Caucaus and were Aryan by definition, but later in the Archimedean empire they did interbred with Elamites. The Parni were 100% Aryan I believe and other satraps and tribes of Iran did nor mix until the Arab Islamist conquests.
Before the pandemic started I bought a 100acre farmstead. It would be paradise for me except 5 acres of my backyard was sold long ago before I bought the property and there's riff-raff renovating a house 1000 feet away on that five acres . Also, there's a rifle range which hosts daily events bordering the back 40 acres. It sounds like somebody started world War 3 from sunup to sundown every day. The shooting noise is driving me bonkers and I feel ill never be able to sell the property once the riff raff finish their renovations. At the same time, I know I'll never find this many acres for sale ever again esp for the price. What would you anons do?
if the Allied High Command could have foreseen the pozzed world of today, with its narcotics, debt slavery, ugliness, poverty, consoomerism, trannies, migrant invasions, and so on... would they have continued the war effort? or would they have made peace with the Axis powers?
>>2606 They probably would have made peace with the Axis and removed the jews. People in the military were at least willing to acknowledge the JQ back then, just see Patton. They knew what was up, but for some reason continued to serve them
>>2608 this makes sense. it was just a thought I had, and I figured this was the place to post it. WWII was fought between central bankers and ethnonationalists/fascists. the central bankers won, and this is the world they built. to respond to the discussion above, the USSR was not a White ethnostate. it may have been predominantly Russian, but that state was built on ideology, not race. in fact Marxism/Communism is a deracinating ideology, which attempts to erase distinctions between us, and mold us like clay into a new kind of human, uprooted from our heritage (eg the New Soviet Man). had it lived longer, you would've seen more and more race-mixing there. moreover, they were the most powerful golem who served the central bankers in WWII.
>>2606 >>2608 No they wouldn't. The Allied command wouldn't give a shit because they would've though >hey that shit will happen long after I am dead and >well I get paid really nice by the jews to kill krauts, so who cares
>>2608 The high command was controlled by jews anon....
>>2608 Made peace in the sense that it's temporary. Then it'll be Whites vs anything that ain't White.
>>2605 Become their problem until they pack up and leave.
What do you guys think of the soviet economic system? I read somewhere that it was terrible but what exactly made it terrible? Are there any books that reference this?
>>2608 >just see Patton. He found out the truth after most of it was finished, when he spoke out the silenced him in a "car accident"
How do you feel about gay Whites and homonationalism?
>>2695 Don't want em, don't like em, and there is no such thang as a "homonationalism" and most gays aren't proud of being White in the first place. If you're a faggot, then you either head concentration camp or reeducation camp to teach you why there is so such thing as sexuality. If we nationalists accept them, then we would be validating and accepting the (((queer theory))), which is a destructive theory agaisnt normality. You can't be proud to be White and a fag, which is nothing more, but a contradiction.
>>2695 Homosexuality is a mental illness, and homosexuals are disease vectors for all sorts of STDs, AIDS and all sorts of degenerate things, not to mention the fact that they are pedos at a much, much higher rate than the normal population. On top of all of this, they are an affront to Nature, and the degeneracy and disease that follows from their lifestyle is proof of this. They are very sick and hedonistic individuals. There is no such thing as “homonationalism” either. Nations are not sustained through anal sex and eating shit
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>>2706 >Nations are not sustained through anal sex and eating shit I beg to differ
>>2718 Weimar doesn't count as a nation.
>>2695 >homonationalism How can you sustain a nation where the citizens don't want to breed? Are there dedicated heterosexual breeders that are kept to solely keep the population up?
What's /fascist/'s reason for why the Roman Empire decline and collapsed?
>>2800 Christianity, granting citizenship to tons of foreigners, too much luxury, tribal migrations into the Empire, etc. It's very complex from everything I have seen, but all of these seem to be important factors.
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>>2695 >homonationalism? Is that what some people unironically call themselves these days? LOL fucking retards should be banned from living, reading shit like this just confirms fags are literally disease spreaders who want to corrupt everything and just for the life of them cant let go of the gay jew shit for a second. >>2800 Time decay, Caesar being murdered and Christcucks. But for historical purposes if you want to know who dealt the final blow it was most assuredly Christcucks. Codex Theodosius and the (((Pope))) making sure he succeeded the last Emperor and so the wealth, etc of the Roman Empire, and i.e all the power. Christcucks literally destroyed the Roman way of life which was the highest and most sophisticated form of civilization White people ever made lasting 2 thousand years.
>>2800 Rome declined, because the state and upper-class cared only for economic purposes and the plebian rule became the dominator of politics. This resulted in in the state becoming a shitty oligarchy and having less consideration and care for true tradition, and the representation of Latin people, and spirituality for money and power, something we similarly see in modern nations today. Rome was quite degenerate before Christianity came and converted the masses, pagan or not degeneracy and weakness can still prevail in any society, which is one of the reasons why Christianity succeeded in becoming the state religion in the first place. The Romans also ignorantly thought that nature could be "dominated" and everything that is made from nature is to be exploited by man, which resulted in hyper-urbanization and proto-capitalism, which again also lead to the rise of Christianity, diseases, and population decline. Last but not least, the Romans tried and made attempts to integrate and synthesis every culture and people they've conquered and allowed those who were of partial Roman/Italic birth which allowed mongrels sub-humans to become citizens and brought a new ruling class and emperors who further extended this and accelerated the collapse. I could add that women also lead to major declines, despite their society being patriarchal, although I think you can guess how this happened as well. Christianity, caring for only luxury and tribal migrations lead to the empire's collapse, but this could of all been dealt, if not for the the things the Romans should of solved in the first place.
Do some WNs on Telegram have a fixation on girls below 18? This White ethnoglobalist guy posted a picture that implied that kikes are getting more underaged girls than him. Another guy I noticed was in another group who was saying how niggers or indians are subhuman or something, while he had peter scully pictured as a supposed saint in his pfp.
>>2869 Various entrapment psyops. If they can entice WN's (or anyone) into pedophilia, those people can never become leaders. They are controlled for by fear of exposure for the rest of their lives. If they ever grow in popularity, .gov can easily shut them down or control them. >one of my personal theories
>>2800 I can list a couple similar to Tornigger: >Poor hygiene because the whole Romans were super healthy and clean meme is wrong. >Fucking up their religion and spirituality by synthesizing cultures and traditions from all across the empire. >Giving citizenship to non-Latins >Not being radical enough to forbid women by any means necessary to be involved in politics and prostitute themselves. >Having slavery becoming an economic dependence. >Not grooming their slaves to be clean and healthy servants willing to serve their masters. >Allowing rich plebs to take office The list goes on, but listed reasons are what I think are the major reasons why the empire declined and collapsed. It's quite sad and sadly too common for the most powerful forces in the world to prefer the life of comfort over hardships.
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>>2807 This maybe semi-related to your topic but This image from leftypol shows how retard they are,In this image their argument can be summarized to 'The Romans were the fault of their own decline and that the jews did nothing and were (((innocent)))', they don't even notice the over jewish representation in porn, race mixing , third world immigration ,trans faggotry or any from of mainstream media (Hollywood etc) or how their fucking Talmud which promotes pedophilia.. I never expected them to be so blind... In this image they say that Cicero doesn't blame the jews but in https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4384-cicero-marcus-tullius And this is what it says >Roman statesman and orator; born 106; died 43 B.C. In 59 he delivered in the Aurelian Forum at Rome a speech in behalf of Flaccus, in which he spoke disparagingly of the jews This is just at the first paragraph itself. In other just memes like this one that are so verbose its fucking funny. They also like to pretend to "debunk" IQ and Race ,(even though there are clear anatomical and morphological differences), yet simultaneously support blm and when they defend jews they say that they have higher IQs and that they have a culture of hard-work and discipline ... While i have no idea on the representation of jews in higher positions of Rome or what they did , im pretty sure it was similar to the Wiemar period of Germany.. They also say that national socialism is -- the same as marxist socialism and that you guys are just not willing to admit it.. what the fuck. Why are they like this?
>>2874 Most of "they" are not leftists but paid activists and AI designed to waste your time, throw you off course, confuse, frustrate and demoralize you until you give up on visiting the chans altogether. They poison the well of information that you drink from until you stop coming back. Their argumentation doesn't have to be logically sound. They must only be reasonable enough to appear to be a real person on the other side of your screen. Do not engage with them. We are all in echo chambers. Their goal is to sabotage your echo chamber so you are forced into one of theirs, so that their propaganda can wear you down until you slowly begin to accept their ideas (even if only partially).
>>2869 Sounds like glowniggers or edgelords to me. Anyone glorifying Peter Scully needs a bullet through their skull, I don't care if the victims were non-White or not
>>2876 No wonder..Makes sense no person would ever reason like that if they were born in a traditional household. Is it worth just reading their literature instead? .
>>2885 >Is it worth just reading their literature instead Some of it. Most of it is autistic and dry, but it will give you a leg up over some of these retards
>>2874 >They also say that national socialism is -- the same as marxist socialism I never seen an leftypol argue this ever in my time of exposing them as useless idiots. As a matter of fact it's been the opposite of the case, where they have completely denied National Socialism's connections or similarities claimed by some to marxism. I imagine if any leftcuck argued this, then it would probably because they don't understand socialism and want undeserved credit for rise of Germany's power during WW2 to marxist theory and desired social policies, even though Hitler saw that race was uptmost important, supported nationalism and wanted cooperation among all classes and to eliminate any division among fellow White Germans, and the fact that he had done more to help his people from poverty and solve the meme that is "class struggle" than marxists had ever done. I would even argue that NatSoc isn't socialist, but just a fascist and racial form of Prussian socialism.
>>2873 The romans were far more hygienic than Any society that followed because of christians and their stinky holy men don't bathe cult shit. the romans had public baths that the Aqueducts flushed constantly and used Sponges on a stick soaked in vinegar to sterilize to wipe their asses, sounds far more hygienic than peratty much all of Christian Europe for a good long while.
>>2900 >The romans were far more hygienic than Any society The Romans weren't as hygienic as the Celts or Germans who bath every ever week and groomed themselves daily in river streams and ate nutritious meals. I also don't see how they're cleaner than anyone else when their cities imported slaves from around the world, and diseases were frequently contracted due to their bad diet and sewage system, which lead to the Antonine Plague and killed a third of the population. >the romans had public baths that the Aqueducts flushed constantly and used Sponges on a stick soaked in vinegar The Romans also had the bad habit of forgetting to wash their public bath's sponges with hot water and detergent, which was left to the responsibility of the plebs. Vinegar and Aqueduct does not guarantee clean water, especially when Rome was filled with foreigners who didn't care for hygiene. >sounds far more hygienic than peratty much all of Christian Europe for a good long while. Look I know you losers hate Christcucks and all, but defending a declining and degenerate society that clearly had tons of problems before Constantine btfod the Hellenics, just to own Christcucks isn't a position you want to stand foot on. The Christians did worsen hygiene, but Rome suffered this issue from the time they allowed anyone from their provinces to become citizens and obtain access to the public baths and overpopulation. Also Christian Europe after Rome's fall did frequently continue to frequently bath, stop giving ammo to niggers and Romanboos who shit on Europeans as ignorant.
>>883 >>1465 Such a guide would be helpful, if not for a lot of the people here who already use good computing practices but for dissemination to others. An in-depth guide would be more useful than a simple tutorial as that other anon said.
>>2887 What is Prussian socialism?
>>3200 Prussian socialism is the usage of state to establish unity of all Germans to create the ideal Prussian character within Germans that concerns self-sacrifice, discipline, productivity, and innovation. It's something very similar to state shinto.
Was Milk apart of the Roman's daily diet?
>>3345 >>3206 Thanks
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I'm interested to see if anyone else has had a similar experience - I was redpilling someone IRL on various aspects of the Third Reich yesterday and out of every fact I threw at them, what most shook their programming was pictures of blacks in Wehrmacht uniforms with Swastikas on their chests. On one hand I'm glad to have broken through some of the programming, but the ultimate extreme risked now is that they think that Hitler loved multiculturalism and was just some sort of anti-communist civnat. I guess in the short-term having people warm up to Hitler is good though.
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>>3586 I've had success with that and pic related combined. I feel like Degrelle isn't used enough anymore to redpill people, his character is unassailable and he lived long enough afterwards to author books and make videos.
>>3586 >>3590 C A N N O N F O D D E R
>>2874 >that pic Who the fuck made that shit? I've argued with faggots like that before who obfuscate any role the jew have had in the destruction of society, instead always shilling that "we are responsible for our own problems". How the fuck can we be responsible when the jew has inserted himself into positions of media, academia, politics to pry at the weaknesses of people and poison the well with his bolshevik dogma? We had no say or choice in the matter. jews study the psychology of different cultures and people to learn what areas they can use as pressure points to exploit, they openly discuss this. Those lies and deliberate attempts at deflecting blame away from the jew make me so fucking angry.
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>>3590 That pic is perfect, thanks for posting it. I might get another chance to talk with the guy I was talking to last night again today, so if Hitler / Third Reich comes up I will have to see if I can bring up this point by Degrelle here. Because another misconception that came up was the idea that Hitler wanted to take over the entire planet and hated everyone else. That's when I pulled up these pics of Wehrmacht members from different nations. One mistake I did think I made was instead of taking the approach Degrelle did, I began to try to argue for why one would say that Aryans are the best. I didn't fall flat, but it didn't go over as well as it could have. Even Hitler ultimately put the interests of his people before all (as is natural), it would have been better for me to say what Degrelle did, and say that to be pro one's own people does not necessarily mean being anti-everyone else without good reason. Even if some retards might find that "cucked" I think it's a major step for people to even acknowledge that. Somewhat related: https://www.bitchute.com/video/L43nzV2U7pQl/
Is the bible claiming that being blond is evil on Leviticus 13:32, Leviticus 13:36, Leviticus 13:30?
>>3586 Well Hitler was against race mixing of course. Most people think that Hitler had a blind hatred for anyone non-Aryan which is blatantly untrue, so I think shattering that misconception is important.
>>3600 I'm leaning against this interpretation here, since it's talking in regards to the symptoms of skin-infections or leprosy. The hair seems to become unhealthy and lose normal pigmentation, I don't think it would look like blond hair, but probably some sickly shade. >>3602 Definitely, I would never try to obfuscate the fact that Hitler was opposed to race-mixing. If we remove his love for his Volk - the very core of his message - there is little left.
>>3597 We ARE responsible for our own problems, we didn't kill the economicucks and race traitors before they let jews in. Those people, now the majority of the White race, are the greater problem. The jews are an outside enemy, the traitors are internal and as a problem they encompass the jewish problem, for without them the jews would not exist.
How would you argue against fags saying that Fascism isn't an actual idealogy?
>>3639 First I'd ask them to explain how it is not a real ideology, and once that is explained, I'd probably define Fascism for them and list off several groups from the heyday of Fascism in the 1920s and 1930s that embodied this. What sort of people have told you that Fascism doesn't exist?
>>3639 What does that even mean? Sounds like some gay rhetoric device. Reminds me of when kikes say the White race doesn't even exist.
>>3639 >How would you argue against fags saying that Fascism isn't an actual idealogy? I wouldn't argue with them. I just tell them it's more of an idealolgy than their own. >>2874 Pic related is a perfect example of why /leftypol/ never gets anything correct. I never seen a /pol/ack argue that Rome declined only, because of the jew and denies that Immigration and degeneracy is a contributing factor that led to the collapse of their society. Especially when they use it to compare it to how Weimar and Weimerica became complete shitholes lol. But very cool strawman.
>>3646 >I never seen a /pol/ack argue that Rome declined only, because of the jew /leftypol/'s biggest flaw is that they are completely humorless and unable to distinguish between when people on /pol/ are making a broad generalization ("jews are behind everything") or when they are memeing and when they are seriously arguing for something. I've seen them take everything /pol/ says 100% at face value when arguing, and then when one goes to /leftypol/ and tries to talk with them, they're already preloaded with false assumptions and ideas and will just ban you after they've had a laugh. This is why they always get BTFO too when they come here occasionally, because they don't understand anything that Fascists think.
Is it true that rich people are the enemy of fascists?
>>3676 No, it's the ultra-rich and middle-class liberals/jews who are the enemy of fascists and even the cuckservatives. The idea that it's all rich people who are evil is a generalization and a lie to undermine the that the evilest of rich people are usually jewish and left-leaning, and the fact that left-wingers have been funded and supported by men with money in their pockets for hundreds of years. Fascists should not seek to be the enemy of all rich people, but just the ones who undermine tradition, hierarchy, and enforce labor slavery.
>>3676 Rich people aren't inherently our enemies. Today though more than ever, it seems like the richer one is, the greater the chance that they have sold their souls to globohomo for whatever reason, either because they get blackmailed by the jews, or because they care for nothing more than materialism and only chase what they think will get them more and more wealth and power, which today is globalization and degeneracy. The mere fact of hating everyone with wealth though doesn't follow from any of this though, I'd even argue that to hold such beliefs is a form of slave morality based on envy and resentment.
>>3676 There would ultimately have to be class dissolution in order to maintain order and empower a racial collective against a common enemy. If not for that, it's helpful to have welfare programs just so marxists fags can't complain.
>>3680 >There would ultimately have to be class dissolution in order to maintain order and empower a racial collective against a common enemy. Nonsense. Leveling the entire social order is the exact opposite of maintaining order, it is destroying all order in exchange for chaos and putting the higher on the same level as the lower. Even Marxists, despite all of their rhetoric, have failed to ever bring about any sort of "class dissolution". Tried as they did, new elites emerged, new classes. Empowering the racial collective against common enemies certainly does not require any sort of leveling. On the contrary, every example from history can show that despite differences in economic status and the like, people will almost always come together in face of a common enemy. The problem is a broken, kiked system.
What is a good disposable email provider that works with shitchute and yt?
>>3684 I just keep a cock.li address for shit like this. It's not really disposable in the sense you're talking about but it's a good email that you can make in a matter of minutes and just sign up for shit you don't want directly associated with you fairly easily.
>>3684 Look up books on privacy and OSI Open Source Intelligence. They will have good information about this.
>>3684 >>3685 Not sure if jewtube will accept https://www.cock.li/, but you can use cock.li to verify a https://protonmail.com/ account, and use that for just about anything.
>>3676 The modern rich probably wouldn't like fascism very much but they are not the key obstacle for fascists purely because they have money.
Board is run by satanists and demon worshippers. /fascist/ is extremely gay.
Why did so many former SS officers convert to islam after the war was over?
>>3802 t.sabbath-goy a.k.a christian
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>>3802 >NOOOOO WHY AREN'T YOU WORSHIPING MY SEMITIC TRIBAL WAR DEITY, YOU D-DEMON-WORSHIPERS???
>>3803 Can you name a few?
>>3815 From scraping around a bit ive found these: (some will be duplicate) >Ludwig Zind (1907-1973) >Ulrik Klaus >Heinrich Willerrman: SS Doctor >Joachim Däumling: Chief of the Gestapo in Düsseldorf. >Leopold Gleim - SS Standartenführer in Warsaw nad head of the Gestapo department for jewish affairs in Poland. >Bernhard Bender >Walter Baumann: SS Sturmbannführer >Erich Altern >Wilhelm Böckler: SS Untersturmführer >Alois Brunner: SS officer >Hans Appler: Associate of Gobbels >Werner Birgel: SS officer from Leipzig >Friedrich Buble: SS Obergruppenführer >Wilhelm Börner: SS Sturmbannführer >Albert Thielemann: SS chief in Bohemia >Heinrich Sellmann: Gestapo chief at Ulm >Ludwig Heiden: SS official and weltdienst (German news-agency) >Johan Von Leers: Close associate of propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. He was an accomplished writer and one of the most important ideologues of the Third Reich. >Ludwig Ferdinand Clauß: Anthropologist and influental race theorist who highlighted the "spiritual race" over the blatant racism of the materialists. >Wilhelm Hintersatz: Served in Kaiser's armed forces >Aribert Ferdinand Heim: Served in the elite Waffen-SS and was a medical doctor at the Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Mauthausen camps, >Luder, Karl Chief of Hitler Youth movement. Held responsible for anti-semitic crimes in Poland. War Minister in Egypt. >Mildner, Rudolf. SS Standartenfuhrer Gestapo Chief in Kattowitz. Chief of police in Danemark. In Egypt since 1963. Member of Deutscher Rat organization. >Moser Alois, Gruppenfuhrer SS Wanted in USSR for crimes against jews. Instructor of paramilitary youth groups in Cairo. >Munzel Oskar SS General Military consultant Cairo, during the 50's. >Nimzel Gerd von. Post-war name: Ben Ali Egypt. 1950's. >Oltramare, Georges Post-war name: Charles Dieudonne Director of Pilori in France during German occupation Responsible for TV show 'La voix des Arabes' (The voice of Arabs) in Cairo. Died 1960. >Peschnik Aehim Dieter Post-war name: El-Said Resides in Egypt >Rademacher Granz Post-war name: Thome Rossel 1940-43. Headed Anti-jewish section of Foreign Affairs Ministry. Journalist in Damascus. >Rauff, Walter Chief of SD (Himmler's Security Services) in Tunisia. In Syria until 1961. Was arrested and released in Chili in 1962. >Seipel. SS Sturmbannfuhrer Post-war name: Emmd Zuher Gestapo in Paris. Converted to Islam. Security Services with Interior Ministry in Cairo. >Sellman, Heinrich Post-war name: Hassan Suleiman Chief of Gestapo in Ulm. >Ministry of Information in Cairo. Egyptian Special Services. >Thiemann, Albert. Post-war name: Amman Kader SS officer in Tchecoslovakia Information Ministry in Cairo. >Weinmann, Erich, SS Standartenfuhrer Chief of SD (Himmler's Security Services) in Prague. Said to have died in 1949. In fact, he became consultant to Alexandria's police force in Egypt. >Buble Friedrich Post-war name: Ben Amman, SS Obergruppenfuhrer Gestapo Director of Egyptian Public Relations Department -1952. Consultant for Egyptian police force. >Bunsch Franz, SA. OBersturmfuhrer Collaborator with Goebbels... the Information Ministry in Cairo, Egypt. >Daemling Joachim Post-war name: Jochen Dressel or Ibrahim Mustapha Dusseldorf Chief of Gestapo Consultant for Egyptian penitentiary system. Active member of Radio-Cairo (Radio-Le Caire) >Dirlewanger Oskar, Oberfuhrer Chief of 36th Waffen SS division (USSR-Poland) Some say in Cairo since 1950. Others claim that he died June 7 1945 in Germany under house-arrest. >Eisele Dr Hans Chief doctor of Buchenwald concentration camp. Died in Cairo in 1965.
>>3818 >Farmbacher Wilhelm, SS Lieutenant-General Wehrmacht Eastern Front, Supervisor of Vlassov Army in France in 1944 Military consultant for Egyptian President Nasser. >Gleim Leopold Post-war name: Lt-Col Al Nashar Unit Chief in Warsaw High ranking officer in Egyptian national security departement, in charge of political prisonners. >Gruber Post-war name: Aradji Canaris recruit in 1924. Egyptian resident 1950: Influencial agent within the Arab League >Heiden Ludwig Post-war name: El Hadj Journalist for anti-jewish agency Weltdienst (NSDAP) Converted to Islam. Translator of Mein Kampf into Arabic. Lived in Egypt in the 1950's. >Heim, Heribert. SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Medical doctor at Mauthausen concentration camp Became medical doctor for Egyptian police. >Hitholfer Franz High ranking officer of Gestapo in Vienna Lived in Egypt in 1950's >* Von Leers, Dr Johannes* Post-war name: Omar Amin Goebbels' assistant, in charge of antisemitic propaganda. In Egypt, he was in charge of anti-israeli propaganda in Cairo since 1955. >Altern Erich Post-war name: Ali Bella Regional Chief SD (Himmler's Security Services), jewish Affairs in Galicia In Egypt during the 50's, then instructor in Palestinian camps >Appler Hans Post-war name: Sakah Chaffar Information services with Goebbels Egypt 1956: Minister of Information >Bartel Franz Post-war name: El Hussein Assistant Chief of the Kattowitz Gestapo (Poland) Since 1959, jewish Affairs of the Ministry of Information in Cairo. >Baurnann, SS Standartenuhrer Participated in liquidation of jewish Warsaw ghetto Minister of War in Cairo. Instructor for the FLP (Liberation Front of Palestine) >Bayerlein, Col. Fritz Rommel's camp aid Egypt >Becher Hans Gestapo jewish affairs, Vienna Alexandria, Egypt. Police instructor >Beissner, Dr Wilhelm Section Chief VI C 13RSHA Egypt >Bender Bernhardt Post-war name: Bechir Ben Salah Gestapo, Warsaw Consultant for Political Police in Cairo >Birgel Werner Post-war name: El Gamin SS Officer Cairo, Egypt. Worked in Ministry of Information >Boeckler Wilhelm SS Untersturmfuhrer Wanted in Poland for the liquidation of the jewish Warsaw ghetto Egypt since 1949. Worked in Israel Department of Information Bureau in Egypt. >Boerner, Wilhelm Post-war name: Ali Ben Keshir. SS Untersturmfuhrer Guard at Mauthausen concentration camp Worked at Egyptian Interior Ministry. Also instructor of the FLP (Liberation Front of Palestine) >**Brunner Alois** Post-war name: Georg Fisher and Ali Mohammed In charge of deportation of jews in Austria, Tchecoslovakia, Greece. Chief of Drancy concentration camp in France. Damascus, Syria. Consultant for Special Services. Protected against extradition by Syrian government.
>>3803 >>3818 >>3819 My first guess would be because Arab countries were good places to hide after the war ended. In order to fit in socially in these countries at all, it was best to become a Muslim as well
>>3818 >>3803 Like >>3821 said most of them seem to have ran away to Libya or Egypt to avoid being persecuted. Converting to Islam would help them hide from the Western powers who suspect that they were supporters, leaders or assistants of the NSDAP. Islam is not compatible with National Socialism, so anyone converting to it expecting it to save their race are dumb and just larping.
>>3831 It's also worth noting that every true nationalist party I'm aware of from the Middle East or the Islamic sphere has been anti-Islamism in one way or another. Davud Monshizadeh's SUMKA is one example, as is the Syrian SSNP. The former was quite literally National Socialist and founded by an Iranian member of the SS who fought in the Battle of Berlin
I found this stuff on twitter about how jews firstly denied "blood libel", but then Newsweek confirmed it. So that's the reason why jews murdering gentile children, because they believe it will help them to slower down the aging process ? Can Blood from Young People Slow Aging? Silicon Valley Has Bet Billions It Will https://www.newsweek.com/2021/04/16/can-blood-young-people-slow-aging-silicon-valley-has-bet-billions-it-will-1581447.html
>>2800 Christianity making the Roman government persecuting its own culture and people and making the jews into a protected racial class.
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>>3831 So what do you think about groups like pic rel *If* one would travel to bosnia, would it be all that stupid to try to join them?
>>3882 >*If* one would travel to bosnia, would it be all that stupid to try to join them? I don't know why one would, and I'm sure they would wonder the same thing really. At the end of the day they're a Bosnian nationalist group, not a civic nationalist group, and I'm sure they'd wonder why some foreigner is showing up and wanting to join up to their group in a small Balkan country. Anywhere else in Europe and in the United States is more worth the effort. This is the ZOG core and where they need to be fought.
I'm looking for a Talmud anywhere so I can show some of its quotes straight from the good book itself, but anywhere I look, it seems they're heavily edited. Couldn't even find "goy" except maybe once or twice except in someone's name.
>>3901 I've used this site in the past: https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud I've never heard of the one that the other anon posted, so it will be interesting to look and compare these two for me personally
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>>3904 >>3902 Thanks. I was looking back on a few images in my archives for accuracy, namely this one on quotes from the Talmud, but couldn't quite seem to find anything like the names listed here. Any notable quotes from those two translations?
>>3908 I think most of that image is bullshit. I've looked for that stuff before and it seems totally fake. I'd recommend looking at the parts concerning the Talmud that I have attached in this PDF. I've double checked a good deal of them and have found them on the Sefaria site that I linked above. I can give a few cited examples here in a while
Anyone got any books/articles/anything on fluoride that isn't zogged?
Ketubot 11b - Having sex with three year old girls is kosher: >An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl less than three years old has done nothing, as intercourse with a girl less than three years old is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye. In the case of an eye, after a tear falls from it another tear forms to replace it. Similarly, the ruptured hymen of the girl younger than three is restored. https://www.sefaria.org/Ketubot.11b.6?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en BT Berakhot 58a - Gentiles are donkeys >Rabbi Sheila ordered that a man who had relations with a gentile woman be flogged. That man went to inform the king and said: There is one man among the jews who renders judgment without the king’s authority [harmana]. The king sent a messenger [peristaka] for Rabbi Sheila to bring him to trial. When Rabbi Sheila came, they said to him: Why did you order flogging for this man? He said to them: Because he had relations with a female donkey. According to Persian law this was an extremely heinous crime, so they said to him: Do you have witnesses that he did so? He replied: Yes, and Elijah the prophet came and appeared as a person and testified. They said to Rabbi Sheila: If so, he is liable for the death penalty; why did you not sentence him to death? He replied: Since the day we were exiled from our land we do not have the authority to execute, but you, do with him as you wish. >[...] >As he was leaving, that man said to Rabbi Sheila: Does God perform such miracles for liars? He replied: Scoundrel! Aren’t gentiles called donkeys? As it is written: “Whose flesh is as the flesh of donkeys” (Ezekiel 23:20). Rabbi Sheila saw that he was going to tell the Persian authorities that he called them donkeys. He said: This man has the legal status of a pursuer. He seeks to have me killed. And the Torah said: If one comes to kill you, kill him first. He struck him with the staff and killed him. https://www.sefaria.org/Berakhot.58a.13?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en https://www.sefaria.org/Berakhot.58a.15?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en Sanhedrin 58b - Gentiles who strike jews to receive death penalty >A gentile who struck a jew is liable to receive the death penalty, as it is stated when Moses saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew: “And he turned this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he struck the Egyptian and hid him in the sand” (Exodus 2:12). https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.58b.17?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en Sanhedrin 58b - Slapping a jew is like slapping the Divine Presence >And Rabbi Ḥanina says: One who slaps the cheek of a jew is considered as though he slapped the cheek of the Divine Presence; as it is stated: “It is a snare [mokesh] for a man to rashly say [yala]: Holy” (Proverbs 20:25). The verse is interpreted homiletically to mean: One who strikes [nokesh] a jew is considered as though he hurt the cheek [lo’a] of the Holy One. https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.58b.18?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en Sanhedrin 58b - A gentile who observes the day of rest gets the death penalty >A gentile who observed Shabbat is liable to receive the death penalty, as it is stated: “And day and night shall not cease” (Genesis 8:23), which literally means: And day and night they shall not rest. https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.58b.25?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en Sanhedrin 58b - A gentile who even studies the Torah gets the death penalty >A gentile who engages in Torah study is liable to receive the death penalty; as it is stated: “Moses commanded us a law [torah], an inheritance of the congregation of Jacob” (Deuteronomy 33:4), indicating that it is an inheritance for us, and not for them. https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.59a.2?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en Bava Metzia 24a - keeping the lost items of gentiles > In a case when one found a lost item in a city where both jews and gentiles reside, if the city has a majority of jews he is obligated to proclaim his find. If there is a majority of gentiles he is not obligated to proclaim his find. Who is the one about whom you heard that he follows the multitudes, i.e., that he attaches significance to the loss of an item in a place where the multitudes are present? It is Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar. Resolve from this mishna that when Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says that the item belongs to the finder, it is referring specifically to a place where there is a majority of gentiles, but in a place where there is a majority of jews, no, it does not belong to the finder. https://www.sefaria.org/Bava_Metzia.24a.14?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en
>>3916 Very nice, that is some real hard work done. Thanks very much.
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>>3919 Glad to help. If you really dig around you'll find some funny shit too, especially in light of the Holocaust numbers. Pic related
>>3916 >> In a case when one found a lost item in a city where both jews and gentiles reside, if the city has a majority of jews he is obligated to proclaim his find. If there is a majority of gentiles he is not obligated to proclaim his find. Who is the one about whom you heard that he follows the multitudes, i.e., that he attaches significance to the loss of an item in a place where the multitudes are present? It is Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar. Resolve from this mishna that when Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says that the item belongs to the finder, it is referring specifically to a place where there is a majority of gentiles, but in a place where there is a majority of jews, no, it does not belong to the finder. Kek. jews really live up to every stereotype.
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>>3965 I can just imagine some gross jew prowling around in an area frequented by gentiles picking up coins and shit off the ground to keep. I don't even need to imagine it actually
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>>3983 Is this the funny jew video thread?
>>3970 hahahahahahhahaha source please >vid rel jews are desperately hiring influencers to mass campaign for the strange disease causing injection mass producing cringe they think will catch on
>>3986 >Pfizer Girl Watching less than 30 seconds of that video made me feel suicidal
>>3986 I find it funny as fuck for the wrong reason, like, the guy gets the vaccine from the jewess but even then she says that you can still only party with a mask on or travel only if essential. But don't forget, the vaccine is the only way to go back to normal goyim :^)
>>3986 Here is another one.
>>3991 Sorry bro >>3993 Oy vey!!! Get a load of this NPC stockholm syndrome: >"I just got paralyzed by the shot but I'm glad I took it they just need more funding" Who the hell would act this way when they just got fucking paralyzed by some freaky drug that's given a shit ton of people life ending disabilities? These damn fucking retarded fucking slaves they trigger me so fucking much. Fucking idiots.
>>172 >Juche is literally sun-worship You're literally retarded. They're an atheist state that's downplays religion for (((secularism))), it's just all talk and no show. Sun-worship isn't about about establishing families and worshipping a commie leader as a literally God. Juche still pertains lies and failures, and it isn't carried about it's supposed social conservatives, but China giving them the resources they need to defend themselves and keep society stable.
>>4012 Based secularists.
>>4039 Secularism is actually the opposite of based. It was the first step in relativizing religion and truth and creating a state which was allegedly ‘neutral’ in these matters. This process has only advanced as time passes and now we have a state which tries to be ‘neutral’ in relation to all other sorts of values such as sodomy, pedos, trannies, racemixing and the like. What this alleged neutrality is is active support for falsehood and degeneracy. Worshiping a fat commie and his corrupt family is the opposite of based
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>>4040 Clericals who mope all day about how uninspired political authority is, how mundane it is, are out of touch. Nothing is more ardently called divine than when the People consult for the political good and organize the state in harmony with human affairs and good governance. It is no different for churches that are built in part of many cities and towns, partake in a role as part of a broader political community. >and creating a state which was allegedly ‘neutral’ in these matters. This process has only advanced as time passes Clericals are jealous they aren't the state. >Worshiping a fat commie and his corrupt family is the opposite of based They have a bond of kinship that is unparalled to Christianity, because many congregations depict Jesus in many different appearances and races. So the blood relation and Confucian influences there have a genuine foundation. Every state needs someone to direct and govern, as head of their political organization. Statesmen play no different a divine role to direct and govern. You don't need someone in a priestly gown in front of everything to be considered "based".
>>4041 >Nothing is more ardently called divine than when the People consult for the political good and organize the state in harmony with human affairs and good governance. You post this with an image of Hitler yet your words could not be less Hitlerian here. “The People” are lemmings, NPCs, shudras—a good 80% plus. This is just reality, and the susceptibility of the populace to brainwashing and reprogramming through media and education attest to this fact. Only a few are naturally fit to lead and guide the affairs of state. I am also not sure why you are talking about churches and clericals. The former should be burnt down in most cases, while the latter sent to camps for being race traitors through the doctrines they preach. Jesus was a jew.
>>4039 >Ancap flag >Secularism called cuckchan lingo "based" This board generates retards.
>>4077 >some ancap retard >not an outsider
>>4041 I find it funny that you think that secularism is only against Christianity or Abrahamicism. Secularism is religious and spiritual suppression within cultures, and the idea that all religions should be kept away from state affairs for something that the state can create it's own religion to secure it's control like America does with anti-racism. New age spirituality and religious subversive should not be apart or influential of the state at all, but it doesn't mean we should disregard and suppress all religions, especially if they're Aryan and understand the concept of the natural order. The National Socialists leaders were not secular in any sense of the word, because they saw the war against jewry as a holy war and saw the war against the allies was ultimately nature vs degeneracy. It is true the NSDAP members didn't agree with the churches of Abraham, but it didn't mean they were secular like Atheists, jews, and Communists are in the sense they do not pertain and see religion as something important or as evil and oppressive. We must remember that many of the NSDAP including Hitler were indeed religious, but not in the way of Christians or Islamists are when it comes to worshipping their kike in the sky. I can't believe we still have National Socialists who continue to think that Hitler advocated and fought for a nation similar to that of Israel.
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It's worth pointing out that ancient Aryan societies were the exact opposite of secular. There was quite literally zero difference between the political and spiritual. It was an indivisible unity. The pre-Abrahamic Aryan society was a religious society, and asebeia / impeity was a serious crime to our ancient ancestors. The conflict between Christianity and the religions of Europe in the Roman Empire was first and foremost (alongside the obvious complete inversion of values) due to the fact that the Christians would not honor the Roman gods, the Emperor or any of the ancient customs and traditions of the Empire and its many constituent cultures and peoples. Ideally we would be more like Shōwa era Japan, which was very spiritual, while at the same time in many ways quite Fascistic. It would be its own thing though. Whites must re-embrace the Natural Order and find the true spiritual path once again. And we will. >>4096 Worth pointing out the obvious here too that atheists were quite literally barred from joining the SS. And as you say, Hitler was quite religious, albeit in a non-Abrahamic sense. Over and over again in his many speeches and in his writings, we can see him adamantly expressing that he believes he is on a mission and is guided by Providence. Numerous close associates are on record stating that his religion was the Laws of Nature. And even beyond that, people such as Kubizek appear to relate genuine spiritual experiences that Hitler underwent as a young man which shaped his views
What're anons thoughts on guilds? do they have a place in a fascist society? if so, what role?
>>4130 Now that I rub my brain cells together it'd probably just be a corporation. Ignore me, I'm still waking up.
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>>4096 >>4107 What religion? In Japan, there could be State Shinto, but in the West this term appeals to Christianity or one of the Abrahamic religions. Not being able to name a religion makes it all sound suito-religious, if there's going to be an organized religion and doctrine, there ought to be a name. Unless you mean a revival of any older religion or a new religion, but what would make it different from Juche? The religious right in terms of Christianity, where any nominal holy man is considered based regardless and that defines their movement. What gods or religion do you genuinely have to offer for state-doctrine? I doubt it's that bad for a state that doesn't have an official religion like North Korea. If anything, North Korea has more piety and religious feeling than a number of religious rightwing I have met.
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>>4138 The foundation will be Natural Law, or what some may call Dharma. Everything else is just my opinion and speculation. This is the only foundation which is stable and enduring, as the failures of modernity have so obviously demonstrated for us. I mention Shinto, because Shinto is a tradition with no founder - its founder is considered to Nature herself. This is 'the Way of the Gods'. Shinto, at its foundation, is the unique manifestation of the spiritual inclinations and feelings of the Japanese people. It is wholly inseparable from Japan, from its people, and from its soil. It comes before all sects, denominations, and contemporary religions, emerging straight out of the depths of time. Animism and Paganism are coming back slowly. The pro-White state of the future will bring God, Nature and race into the forefront. >I doubt it's that bad for a state that doesn't have an official religion like North Korea. North Korea adheres to state atheism. I don't think you understand why Juche is not a religion in any sense. The Juche idea is the idea that man is the master of his destiny, the master of society, and the dominator and transformer of the world, making it serve him according to his will and demand, not being subject to the world around him. It is atheistic, anthropocentric and materialistic - the unholy trinity of everything wrong with the world today. How does the idea that man is the center and master of everything, and that the world is composed of atoms bouncing around in a void and nothing more conducive to religious piety or religious feelings at all? The personality cult around the Kims is devotion to a man and family unworthy of the respect they are given.
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>>4144 >The foundation will be Natural Law Still no less sterile than to say, that the laws of nature are without a founder. >its founder is considered to Nature herself Which I would say is inconsiderate of human beings and their creative potential. Why else would any other religion have any gods to begin with? >The Juche idea is the idea that man is the master of his destiny, the master of society, and the dominator and transformer of the world, making it serve him according to his will and demand, not being subject to the world around him Yes, their doctrine is that the People are God, that the People have creative potential, hence the Paint Brush on the Juche symbol. At least it is an ideology relevant to those people and pertains to them as masters of their destiny. >world is composed of atoms bouncing around Is it not composed of atoms? >Shinto, at its foundation, is the unique manifestation of the spiritual inclinations and feelings of the Japanese people That is what Juche is, the manifestation that the People are God.
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>>4146 >Which I would say is inconsiderate of human beings and their creative potential There's no denial of the creative potential of humans in the declaration that ultimately Nature is the founder of the spiritual traditions of the Japanese people. This would only be true if one was totally denying any agency on the part of the Japanese (or any other people really). They are not totally passive in relation to Nature, but ultimately they are entirely dominated by the Laws of Nature, and will forever be. Within the purview of this metarule there is a bit of leeway, and this where human creativity can operate. >Yes, their doctrine is that the People are God, This is just retarded and can be rejected out of hand. >Is it not composed of atoms? The question is whether to view the world from a bottom-up, reductionistic perspective as put forward in modern science, or whether to assume a top-down, holistic worldview, the statement about atoms was pejorative. >That is what Juche is, the manifestation that the People are God. No, it's a modernist communist ideology. The true spiritual feelings of the Korean people are organic and did not have to be imposed by a communist state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_shamanism
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>>4149 >This is just retarded and can be rejected out of hand. Politically speaking, where else? I understand, that you might say that People are Sheeple, but nevertheless it is the broader public that provides and cares for each other. >here's no denial of the creative potential of humans in the declaration that ultimately Nature is the founder Human beings ultimately look for a founder that they may relate with, but Nature itself doesn't bare any resemblance or willpower. How is that any less sterile than saying that the world is your founder? >but ultimately they are entirely dominated by the Laws of Nature Which is inconsiderate because it is impersonal, however, and doesn't retain inter connectivity like any godhead. I also think, naturally, the People being creators shows their piety in the social cohesion and resilience of their entire state. Stressing the relationships between each other and filial piety of the entire country.
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>>4151 >Politically speaking, where else? I don't know what you mean by this. >I understand, that you might say that People are Sheeple, but nevertheless it is the broader public that provides and cares for each other. "The People" are not God. What you are doing by peddling this nonsense is in fact proving that Juche is just more garbage modernist thought. >Human beings ultimately look for a founder that they may relate with, but Nature itself doesn't bare any resemblance or willpower. How is that any less sterile than saying that the world is your founder? You're taking a sterile, materialistic view of Nature. Properly speaking, it is not a relationship of I-It, but I-Thou. Nature is alive with personality. Its origin is in God, pure Being, Consciousness, etc. Juche denies this. It's man-worship, self-worship, modern trash thought that no one will care about a millennia from now if the jews haven't killed everyone on the planet.
>>4152 >I don't know what you mean by this. People are the bedrock for a political state, who form the columns of society and support one another. An ideology inconsiderate of them could be called anti-social. The People provide, no less, for each other and are interconnected. >Properly speaking, it is not a relationship of I-It, but I-Thou. Nature is alive with personality. Its origin is in God, pure Being, Consciousness, etc. Juche denies this. It's man-worship, self-worship The appeal to any god is their resemblance to mankind, whereas Zeus was called the father of mankind. So the People, who provide each other and create all we see in the dynamic world, adapt and flourish.
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>>4153 You're just fashioning some groundless modernist myth founded on banalities and trying to claim that this is some sort of 'religion' - it's not. You're just blabbing about how states are made of communities of people and people cooperate (quite the revelation). Saying that people help each other and create things is modernist, tired, and completely reconcilable with globo-homo.
>>4146 >That is what Juche is, the manifestation that the People are God. Excuse the buzzword, but it's a LARP and enslavement of men out of fear over educating and engineering them to be better men with the usage of the order, law, and discipline on how to fight corrupt urges and desires. The National Socialists never saw themselves as gods to the state, but the enforcers of the natural order. You're just proving that North Korea is against the natural order, because LARPing as a god is unnatural and treating your kin as slaves, because of your fear of democracy and degeneracy is the failure of the state not man. State atheism and secularism is no better than Abrahamicism. No surprise an ancap would think this way, have to remind some "people" on here that ancapitalism is financial jewry.
>>4152 The people are a mirror image of God though. In the Hermetic Texts, Hermes/Thoth calls Egypt an image of heaven.
>>4188 >The people are a mirror image of God though. No they aren't and we can clearly see humanity today to confirm this isn't true. There is no such thing as as "the people". >In the Hermetic Texts, Hermes/Thoth calls Egypt an image of heaven. And we can confirm they were either wrong or would change their minds on this if they saw Egypt when Islam invaded, because Egypt today is now a shithole. We are descendants of gods, but not gods ourselves, self-worship is pozzery and your opinions actually do lenient on globohomo's egotism.
>>4194 >Lenient Meant lean towards
What are some beautiful Aryan music?
>>4188 All talk of people being in the image of God is only meant in a very qualified sense. It is like if we have the sun, and there are numerous rays emanating in all directions, composed of infinite particles of light. A person would only be a single particle of light, brighter or dimmer depending on what they are exactly (animals and lower humans like non-Whites are by nature further from the Source). For a particle of light, or a collection of particles of light to call themselves the sun itself is an act of massive, almost deluded hubris. The traditional view, like the other anon says here >>4194, is typically that humans are descended from gods. This should not be seen as devaluing humanity though. If we read ancient texts like the Ramayana, we can see how sages such as Vishvamitra reached such a level of power that he was able to create another parallel universe through the power of yoga alone
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What do circular swastikas mean?
>>4246 I’d say it’s just an aesthetic variant of the straight-armed swastika. Around the world we of course see many takes on the swastika, some very close to the NSDAP’s, others which are more close to the more circular ones.
Can someone spoil the ending of attack on titan?
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>>4258 Basically Eren's ethnoglobe plot is thwarted, but only after 80% of the world is stomped into dust by his titans in the Rumbling. The island of Paradis comes under full control of the /fascist/-tier Yeagerists and Historia is shown wondering if coexistence or peace is possible at all. Some of Eren's friends are sent on a diplomatic mission to negotiate peace with the survivors. A bunch of other shit happens that is retarded and not worth mentioning. All titans are destroyed
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>>4246 >>4248 It's a sacred symbol of Swastika that bears more resemblance to the Sun Cross, or even more with the Solar Wheel which again is thought to symbolize the sun and the four seasons, an explanation for it's relation is that it's a simplified Spinning-Solar-Wheel. Regardless it is an ancient Aryan talisman almost exclusively found on very old objects found at excavations by archaeologists who have established that the sacred solar symbol has been known for at least 3000 years and has meant a great deal to the northern race. Deeper meaning can also be found in it's cycles of perpetuity, such as life and death. And because it's a symbol it's meaning could have been multiple and so ambiguous but nothing separates it from Nature.
>>4246 Boundless space, cycle of life, infinity, etc.
>>4155 >You're just blabbing about how states are made of communities of people and people cooperate (quite the revelation) You say that, but babble about what is modern and what isn't. Whereas this is true, that People form the basis of politics and form the integrity of a state. >You're just proving that North Korea is against the natural order, because LARPing as a god is unnatural You make exception for Japan. >and treating your kin as slaves, because of your fear of democracy and degeneracy is the failure of the state not man Fear of degeneracy is what motivates you. It's a one-trick pony. >>4183 >The National Socialists never saw themselves as gods to the state, but the enforcers of the natural order. Which mirrors divinity to govern and create any order, whether it is a secularist state or theocracy. >>4209 It is about the image of any god & mankind, a relationship between them, that allows them to connect. I said, that no god that is inhuman and completely devoid of humanity and its values. For Christianity, I said, that the blood relation and particular image was obscure, that's why different congregations portray Jesus in different races--because it didn't relate to a particular people, whereas many have their deities attached to their particular people. If this relationship between the people and deity didn't matter, then I don't know why /fascist/ would be care about Christianity being jewish -- other than they say it teaches weakness. When it is said, that the People are God, it is their humanity and social cohesion, where they are masters, no different than gods who were masters of nature like Poseidon over the ocean. To have laws of nature, without any particular god of nature, is inconsiderate of humanity because it doesn't take account of humanity and its virtues, neither its inconsistency and errors. It is called idolatry to people to appreciate humanity, because of its material dimensions and being divided, but the relationship a people have with any godhead cannot be comprehended without this image that relates to themselves. That is why DPRK compares their Leader to the Sun, imitating Japan, to raise humanity up to the heights of gods.
>>4316 >You say that, but babble about what is modern and what isn't I'm not trying to reveal anything controversial in this case. Modernism should be obvious to most people here, it is being brought up by me over and over because that is all that Juche is. There's nothing interesting or unique about Juche, and it's certainly not a religion. >that People form the basis of politics and form the integrity of a state. Again, this is banal as fuck. It's not even an ideology. It's a mundane observation about politics. I believe we're talking about religion here, not just politics as a concept. >You make exception for Japan. You're mixing up two people here, because I didn't even mention Japan in my post - the idea of divine kingship and divine descent are common to almost every traditional civilization. This is highly different from the idea that you are trying to push here about how 'the People are God'. It's also worth noting that the Japanese apply the term 'kami' to a much wider range of things than we would, namely some animals, mountains, rivers, trees, rocks, etc. >When it is said, that the People are God, it is their humanity and social cohesion, where they are masters, no different than gods who were masters of nature like Poseidon over the ocean. So what you are saying is that these aren't similar at all. You are saying that people are allegedly masters over their social cohesion and have some nebulous abstract concept called 'humanity' therefore they are literally 'God' - which is totally identical with a powerful supernatural entity which can bring about earthquakes and storms by his very will. It's completely different, and then you continue to make the basic category error of confusing God and a god. >That is why DPRK compares their Leader to the Sun, imitating Japan, to raise humanity up to the heights of gods. "compares" - so it's a LARP. We're talking about actual religious foundations for the White race. Even Varg is more religious than the shlock you're pushing, i.e. materialism with a pseudo-religious cult painted on top of it.
>>4260 Anime is just dumb
>>4332 I'm surprised we even got 80% of the world genocided. The ending was pretty lame though, I think. Most anime isn't worth the time.
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What is the best (material) path for asceticism in the modern world? With how densely everything is populated here, with all the numerous laws, the horrendous bureaucracy and the damaged and drained nature it seems the best way is just going NEET. Sure it is not optimal but there is not much you need other than silence and solitude.
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>>4339 >it seems the best way is just going NEET Becoming a NEET is certainly one of the best paths. It is not like the great ascetics and sages of the past had a 9-5 slave job and dedicated every moment of their time to earning shekels. That is the last thing they would have cared about. They would be spending all of their time in meditation, study and association with others that were like-minded. Do not let slaves tell you that all individual value or meaning comes from dedicating all of your time to useless jobs. They are resentful and envious liars. I would argue that the more in contact with Nature you are the better it is for your asceticism, but like you say, even having solitude and silence is good. Anything else is just extra.
Are there any critiques of Fascism that don't resort to empty statements without further elaboration? A lot of Fascist criticism boils down to "Fascism bad because it contradicts belief I hold" and then it usually ends there.
>>4352 In truth, not really. I hate to say it, but I have not yet came across any good critiques of Fascism or National Socialism. Perhaps check out Evola's 'Notes on the Third Reich' or 'Fascism Viewed From the Right'. These are critiques, but perhaps not the exact type you have in mind.
>>4339 I believe in positive NEETism, which involves either starting a business or making a righteous living sucking the government dry of welfare/unemployment.
>>4316 >You make exception for Japan. No one made expections for Japan, are you stupid? Japan is admired for their devotion and dedication to fight for their nation and faith. Also I'm pretty sure that Japan doesn't see themselves as gods. >Fear of degeneracy is what motivates you. No it does not and you can look at Christians and their fear degeneracy, which is often very ineffective and makes to make them look stupid shit. The same goes for Mudslimes as well as they talk and decry degeneracy, while committing such sinful and harmful actions such as incest, fucking goats and having multiple wives for sexual pleasure. Fear of degeneracy is not the only motivation nor should your motivation to be hysteria that leads to abuse of your own kin. The best way to fight degeneracy is to understand it's strengths and causes and ridding of it through both might and knowledge. Enslaving your most of your kin, because you're afraid of globohomo is foolish and sets an example of your failure to fight against it, which is what NK is failing to do right now. >Which mirrors divinity to govern and create any order, whether it is a secularist state or theocracy. No it doesn't. How is it possible for someone to be this stupid? You clearly don't understand divinity, because rule does not come with it. Again you're using jewish perspectives that are used to justify their actions. Ancaps need to stop coming here.
>>4380 >I'm pretty sure that Japan doesn't see themselves as gods. Not at all. What we had was a belief in the divine descent and divinity of the emperor. And even if the Japanese people themselves were believed to have been ultimately descended from gods, they clearly didn't see themselves as gods. Just look at Yasukuni Shrine, which has some two million deities enshrined for their service to Japan (mostly soldiers). If they were already gods, they wouldn't be re-deified, if makes no sense.
Does anyone else hate the gay internet subculture of "going to therapy"? Therapy is a massive scam at best, and literal kike programming at worst.
>>4390 Yes, it's a massive scam. It's also definitely kike-programming and even potentially a way to get information on individuals (confidentiality doesn't mean shit). Many of these therapists seem to do nothing but push pills on patients and just put a band-aid on problems that are in most cases much deeper or not even worth the pills at all. Ted Kaczynski wrote about this and related topics. It's no wonder some young men explode and start killing people with "treatment" like this. Paying money to talk to some pill-pusher who will probably just give you basic advice is something I will never understand. Another suspicion I have is the political usage of "mental illness" to suppress dissidents. The vast majority of humans would be mentally ill by modern standards if they were alive today, I think. Not in the sense of being completely unable to function, but in a sense that they would be operating on a completely different paradigm that modern weaklings and golems can't understand
>>4390 >Does anyone else hate the gay internet subculture of "going to therapy"? Therapy is a massive scam at best, and literal kike programming at worst. This is common sense to right-wingers, fascist and some moderates by now. What I hate is that the left used to be critical of therapy on how they were scams due to their high-costs and half-assed jobs, but now that has left heir minds.
>>4407 Once therapists starting indulging in leftist nonsense they dropped all pretensions of being critical of it and went onto fully support it. Same with the system in general. Once (((porky))) put on an anti-racist, feminist, anti-White disguise they immediately fell into line and put faith in the system as the means to their salvation. Useful idiots in the purest sense of the term.
>>4407 >What I hate is that the left used to be critical of therapy on how they were scams due to their high-costs and half-assed jobs, but now that has left heir minds The left is willing to defend anyone who leans towards their side, even if it is a pedophile, a rapist, and/or a murderer. It's just what the CIAniggers intended for (((MKUltra))) and that's to make everyone retarded.
I was having a debate with a friend over immigrants and how terrible they are for the country, and besides not caring that english people (his own race) are going to be minority very soon, he kept spouting the bullshit that the media says about immigrants being good for the country, that london is perfectly fine and that they'll take the jobs we won't do. I've collected the articles I could about the subject, but I was hoping anyone here could help and provide some infographics, articles and any """evidence""" (read: something that convinces plebs) you have too.
>>4445 Here's the problem—as long as the debate is kept purely economic, you might have somewhat of an uphill battle (don't get me wrong there are totally arguments that can be made, just see the rest of the post). I was hit with this recently by my father in relation to Mexicans here in the US and didn't have a good response pre-planned, unfortunately. Thinking about it since then, it has become clear that as long as we are dealing in the realm of economics, what rules is pure raw efficiency and nothing else. Capitalism and Communism both view life in terms of sheer efficiency, money and goods. Healthy human communities, cultures, art and meaningful human experiences take a backseat. To the capitalist, it doesn't matter what race, gender or values you hold so long as you can bring in money and consume his goods. More goods bought = more shekels for the corporations. Here we see one good reason why importing millions of people is good for the capitalists and the economy, not to mention the fact that wages are lowered when more people are flooded into the labor market, and housing costs rise. Another angle to approach from is the environment. This might not work on everyone, but if they are sensitive to these arguments I find them to be worth employing—Western countries are among the biggest polluters on the planet, and among the most wasteful countries per capita. If we import more people from countries with lower living standards to countries where they can start living horribly wasteful and polluting Western lifestyles, is this not a bad thing? Finally, these articles might help you a bit: https://archive.fo/fSGiQ http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/putting-a-price-on-foreigners-strict-immigration-laws-save-denmark-billions-a-759716.html https://archive.fo/R1WQw http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/8492822/Denmarks-immigration-laws-save-country-6-billion.html Despite all of this, I still think that the pure economic arguments are the wrong way to go. At the end of the day the economy isn't ultimate - it's the human communities that matter, and that is what we wish to preserve. The unfortunate thing is that some people might not see these as inherently valuable.
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>>4453 thanks, that's definitely a good angle to approach the problem from. However, I have a feeling that my friend is just gonna say that immigrants aren't disintegrating peaceful lifestyles, and they're perfectly peaceful, that London was shit before they came. I would provide crime statistics but they'd dismiss them as "made by racists" too. it's hard arguing with a boomer that's been brainwashed his entire life.
>>4467 want to clarify, I don't consider it arguing, but breaking down the barriers (((they've))) built in his (and all goyim's) brain.
>>4467 >>4468 The best thing to do is link shit like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Doublet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal And to show classic videos like 'With Open Gates'. That one in particular was a massive redpill for me back in the date. I know that that deals more with Europe in general, but it's still good to see. A single video can be more powerful than hours of arguing / deprogramming. It's likely that you'll get no visible admissions that you are right from him. I've noticed myself that I can say this sort of stuff to people and get negative responses, but then weeks or months later I'll hear the same people starting to repeat certain things that they had been reacting negatively too earlier.
Is masturbation really hurtful to our health?
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>>4473 First and foremost eliminating all use of pornography is essential. There's almost zero excuse here. Pornography is horrible for people, addictive and literally reduces the grey-matter in your brain, turning you into a cumbrain with cerebral dysfunction, hypofrontal symptoms that lead to poor impulse control. It's an abuse of normal biological behavior just like being a fatass is. Masturbation is also not great for you, and every single time you'd be better of abstaining than indulging for many reasons (see first pic related for one major reason). It's just short term pleasure with no long term benefits, and as the pic shows, actual negative effects. It also drains your willpower, harms your self-control and leads to clouded thinking. I don't have studies for those last claims but that is just personal experience.
>>4468 Just say that you don't think every single non-White person is bad but that they're in large groups and that's what the problem. It's not a personal one. Say how if other non-White countries can maintain their racial demographic then so can yours. (unless you do think that all non-Whites on earth are bad then you can forget abt this post)
>>4476 >Pornography is horrible for people, addictive and literally reduces the grey-matter in your brain Do you have a source for this? Not doubting you or anything, but this is news to me, because I've always assumed that the worst outcome from masturbation is that it destroys your testosterones.
>>4477 >(unless you do think that all non-Whites on earth are bad then you can forget abt this post) okay you're definitely a shitskin
>>4480 > I've always assumed that the worst outcome from masturbation is that it destroys your testosterones. I was specifically referring to pornography addiction in that part of my post since masturbation and porn usage are so frequently linked, but even compulsive masturbation might have similar effects. Here's one source that I was drawing from in particular, though there are many others out there which largely reach the same conclusions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050060/
>>4476 It fascinates me how we can easily destroy ourselves by simply misusing our body parts. No syringes, powders, pills or herbs, just your hand and your dick. Human biology is fucking stupid.
>>4529 Under normal conditions much of this would not happen, and there human biology mostly works fine with few problems. Humans aren't designed to be able to handle a life of instant-gratification, hedonism, and all comfort. This leads to what we see today, rising numbers of dysfunctional, mentally ill, porn-addicted freaks of all kinds. Many of the major issues today were almost non-existent in the past on a large scale.
Is it bad to have a sexual fetish if you keep it to yourself and don't act on it?
>>4566 No, as long as it stays that way, and it depends on the fetish in question. unless you're not White, then we don't care.
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>>4566 Wouldn't call it bad per se if you're not acting on it, especially if it's more 'out there'. Action is what makes the real difference. Thoughts are just thoughts - though it is not good to dwell on thoughts of this nature, as it can effect your nature more or less over time. That is why those 'meditate' (keep the mind fixed) on degeneracy start to manifest signs of degeneracy physically. Just look at the coomer dude.
>>4566 I'd wager everyone on Earth has some sort of weird guilty pleasure, what matters is if it's actually harmful or not, and if you can keep it in your pants. Pretty sure Rome fell in part due to no-one being able to do the latter. If the fetish is harmful, then do well to not ever apply it in reality or in your point of view.
>>4570 >Sexuality is rather fluid, however, and I do believe it is possible to shift one's focus to different (more healthy) means of sexual satisfaction. I think this is true. I've often told people that if there was no propaganda coming from media, entertainment and education, there would be only the tiniest minority of homosexuals and trannies in our society. Everything else is created (encouraged?) through social exposure and conditioning. This is why we are seeing an explosion in younger people identifying under these pozzed labels like 'bisexual', 'pansexual', 'gay', 'lesbian', etc. If they lived 100 years ago 99% of these people would be normal people. I've seen several accounts over the years who get addicted to tranny porn or 'sissy hypno' and start to use this sort of pornography almost exclusively even though they identified as normal. It was pornography and chasing after dopamine highs that led them down darker and darker paths and quite literally reprogrammed them into fags, even though their rational mind might express despair over this in their more clear-headed moments. If degeneration is possible, the opposite is surely possible with a cessation of exposure and positive replacements for degeneracy
>>4567 >>4569 >>4571 It's not especially harmful or extreme. In fact it would be very easy to simulate. I'm never told anyone about it in real life, but I post about it a lot on the internet. It's not a very common fetish, I'm mostly interested in seeing what people think of it. The problem is that I'm pretty sure I got it from seeing it happen in movies. Some of the good feelings I associate with it were there before, but I'm not sure it would have crystallized the same way if not for these movies. It makes me frustrated seeing how much of a hold Hollywood has on my unconscious mind, including my sexual desires.
>>4580 For (((whatever reason))), there was a weird fucking age of that kind of stuff. I tried to describe some of the examples, but they kinda make me bleugh to even think about. Space Jam, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Ant Bully, etc. Of course I'm still sure they do the same shit today, but still. Anyway, there's your problem man. The fact you're still actively going to places and discussing it and, I'm assuming, not trying to go on nofap. That's what I mean -- keeping it in your pants. It's like actively going to a brothel and discussing what makes you tick with the other guys on their way to throw money at thots.
>>4583 I've noticed that people in our circles especially are into what you're referring to. There's some weird psychology to it, that I just don't understand.
>>4583 To no one’s surprise all three of those films are extremely kosher either in terms of writers, directors or producers. Space Jam especially. Other weird jew-produced / distributed films with borderline fetish material from recent times include Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (inflation), Zootopia (furry shit), many episodes of jew-owned Nickelodeon shows including iCarly (foot fetish), Fairly Odd Parents (gender bender episode). They purposely put this stuff in here. (((Disney))) movies have been shown to be full of subliminals as well. One’s children should be kept away from sick jews and their fantasies
>>4583 >>4586 >>4589 It's nothing weird or unrealistic like inflation. My fetish is for women fainting. I think part of it is protective instinct. Another part is dependency. I feel satisfaction having women being able to depend on me for things like changing tires and digging fence posts. There's also the fact that I was raised around leftist and feminist ideas; I was taught to see women as just as strong as men in every way and fainting was specifically used as an example of a sexist cliche. When women turned out to be demonstrably not as strong as men, I couldn't help but entertain the idea that other things I'd been taught to see as "sexist" might be at least partly true. As for sharing it, I figured it would be better to try and rationalize it than let it fester in the back of my mind. I would rather discuss it in places like this than with some cryptokike therapist. It makes no-fap hard for me because faintingcomes up just often enough that I'm never 100% sure I won't see something that reminds me of my fetish. It's not a particularly common fetish, so it's hard to find advice on how to deal with it. The only other person with this fetish that I know of is a blatant coomer who pays for ethots and p*rn "actresses" to pretend to faint for him. I try to be as little of a soyboy degenerate as possible, but I find it very discouraging to know I'll probably never completely get over these desires.
>Sexuality is rather fluid What is your definition of sexuality? >>4592 You don't need to talk about your weird fetishes on here retard. It's not only creepy, but makes me think that you're a cumbrain.
>>4593 Unfortunately that poster deleted his post, but in my response to him I was interpreting it as him saying that the social situation to an extent could shape how one is. I.e. we have something that is indisputably the normal and healthy form of sexuality in every culture on Earth, and then there is deviance which is treated differently in different cultures, and that people in said cultures can be groomed into being faggots (even if not exclusive) if it is encouraged or forced onto children. Because I definitely do not belief that everyone identifying under said labels today is "naturally" one of these deviances. They are created and shaped by externals in the vast majority of cases. Maybe the other guy meant something different but that was just my interpretation. >>4592 Yeah that's not even that weird. I've never heard of a fainting fetish before, but out of all of the things I was expecting you don't have to worry about that one. I'm not going to tell you to act on it or to indulge in this shit online at all, but compared to the shit out there in the world you're not even what I'd call a freak or a pervert
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>>4597 >People in said cultures can be groomed into being faggots (even if not exclusive) if it is encouraged or forced onto children. Because I definitely do not belief that everyone identifying under said labels today is "naturally" one of these deviances. They are created and shaped by externals in the vast majority of cases. Maybe the other guy meant something different but that was just my interpretation. I think it's definitely true and an abstract goal of the frankfurt school jews of destroying social norms.. The degenerates like pathogens especially fags have this tendency infect each-other you can see this apparent in the way they act, they don't care about any standards or morals any truth in their communities, they only care about poz and infection and crying about such things like how much "victims" they are. I read on kiwifarms that tranny degens who have not dismembered themselves yet they talk about "detransitioning" which appears to be a thing now mostly for women afaik.
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>>4601 The strategy of the jews in summary would definitely be the complete inversion of everything natural and normal. What most people do not realize today is that their individual actions have a ripple effect on society that effects others and the society at large. This is really a no-brainer, and for all of history this was realized even among the most savage and primitive of peoples. I've seen some of that stuff about females de-transitioning more as well. It's really not surprise. On the one hand they're destroying much of what men find beautiful and feminine about them by taking testosterone, growing hair, removing their breasts and in rarer cases mutilating their genitals - they're just a freak at that point, and all of the infinite value that they are given by modern males vanishes, and then they realize that literally none of their problems were fixed that made them think of becoming a caricature of a "man" in the first place. For men, I have concluded that it's more of a case of straight mental illness, modern anti-male culture and extreme fetishism mixing together into one freak.
it's okay to have degenerate desires and impulses, as long as they're not too extreme (anon's fetish, while unusual, is not extreme at all). what matters is that you 'starve the beast' so to speak by resisting and not feeding those impulses. giving into such desires creates a feedback loop which strengthens them. even if you've indulged in degeneracy before, you can still redeem yourself. the only thing you really can't come back from is using hormones and surgery to turn yourself into a feminized eunuch, at that point you're too far gone.
>>4597 >Yeah that's not even that weird. That's more or less the response I'm used to getting. It's not really the fetish itself that bothers me, it's where it comes from. I have to question whether I would find it as exciting if I hadn't gotten used to seeing attractive actresses act out fainting scenes in movies, or if I hadn't been raised to see these scenes as sexist and exploitative. I've only actually seen it happen once or twice in real life. I've had girlfriends tell me stories about themselves fainting, but they've also told my plenty of equally embarrassing stories that I didn't find nearly as titillating. It makes me wonder how much of my sexual and aesthetic tastes really developed organically or are the result of conditioning by mass media.
Either a moderator or the BO himself has a strong issue with dissenting opinions regarding the mass shooters. This board is a joke. Just rename this place Neinchan and then we'll know what to expect.
>>4589 >Zootopia (furry shit) This movie, although technically well done (mostly Whites working on it I suppose) also conveys an extreme egalitarian message where the natural predators, and therefore superior animals in the food chain, are the ones living according to unnatural principles whereas the preys can live like they always do. So when that berry based drug wakes the predators up and bring them to their natural instincts, they become the natural born killers they always were meant to be. Beyond animals talking and dressing like humans, forget this, the philosophical and political premise of the movie is already a falsity because predators who are known to eat meat are unable to do so and obviously do not do so otherwise they'd be seen as monsters. This is literally an attack on natural supremacy doubling with pure specism because of the movie's specific moral argument that goes beyond the already weird situation of anthropomorphized animals of all species and races living together as we could see in many movies, games and comics decades ago. It is so jewish, so anti-nature. Zootopia is the perfect egalitarian city. Drugged predators return to their natural instincts and assert their dominion over scared preys. Don't let your kids anywhere this poison, don't let yourself be duped by the cute and fluffy rabbit, who btw despite being smaller and weaker, is also a female and yet is a cop and is supposed not to be shunned through sheer disrespect because of these natural limitations. So you're also server with feminism here too.
>>4620 Seeing this, I may have been a bit trigger-happy. I did delete it after someone reported it for being a 'deradicalization' post or something to the effect of that. I've oftentimes seen posts made like this that are one-and-dones that end up derailing the thread and that often seem like disruptors. The take-away from my mistake here is that I should wait to see if it's an actual shill before acting rather than just deleting. Criticism of these figures is absolutely permitted - as one can see from the debate left up untouched in the /rwg/ and in other threads. I personally do not view the strategy of the recent mass-shooters as one that will bring salvation to our race by any means, but I see that these events are inevitably going to occur, and I hold a view that I think it is not good to foolishly attack our own side too much, given that leftists and jews never eat themselves alive, while Fascists and White Nationalists seem to spend all of their time desperately trying to act like they never commit to action, and that anyone who acts is by necessity Mossad, false flag, etc. I don't think this is true. It certainly could happen, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it has been in any of the cases in question. So go ahead and criticize these people if you want, and I'll try not to be as much of a faggot if that's possible.
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>>4619 The trope of women fainting goes back further than old movies, don't worry - especially if it was made prior to US obscenity laws being rescinded, it probably wasn't meant as anything other than what it was depicted as in the film. >It makes me wonder how much of my sexual and aesthetic tastes really developed organically or are the result of conditioning by mass media. Probably some stuff is due to exposure, but who knows. At the end of the day >>4618 is right.
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>>4626 Don't be fooled and keep deleting this scum. It was 100% derad faggot or retard, and so it was definitely not an opinion. Just another inorganic regurgitation. We also have whangry jewish shit stirrers on the board right now seen in the girl thread. It does not bother me though because I like shit posting on these imbeciles myself. But just take a moment to notice how out of of all the world's daily killings in conflict to talk about they only specifically address and attack when the race is White in response to pro White violence, trying their best to make it seem that there's only one side and one side of the story, when in-fact the elites and their dystopian governments attacking their own people with evil, jewish, deliberately destructive policies unwilling to change policies that are directly and entirely driving these justified reactions of self defense from the same individuals who are in all actuality freedom fighters and martyrs and only guilty of acting to defend their way of life, our way of life as a people from destruction from the vast jewish genocide conspiracy plotted against us by maniacs such as Barbara Spectre. >>4620 Don't cry out in pain as you strike fag I read your parrot "dissenting opinion" it's not dissenting nor is it an opinion and it has absolutely no value, it's just simply spam regurgitation and only weak faggots and shills write such nonsense. You always write the same shit without any substance backing up your extra ordinary claims and your low quality shit deserves to be removed. It is funny you should mention neinchan too, that's where scum like you were writing this derad shill garbage on in the past and you got shredded like a million times over by actual arguments because nein was very pro freedom fighter.
>>4634 >Don't be fooled and keep deleting this scum. It was 100% derad faggot or retard, and so it was definitely not an opinion. Just another inorganic regurgitation. That is why I deleted it in the first place after seeing the report earlier, as I read one or two lines and noticed that I had read basically the same post in slightly different versions hundreds of times. I guess the main thing I wanted to say in response is that people can criticize these shooters and their techniques - they're certainly not sacred cows - but these criticisms should ideally be framed in such a way that they provide alternative suggestions and education to White Nationalists reading the posts. Overall I'm kind of inconsistent on these matters, usually only deleting if someone reports it, because often I'll tolerate much more trash than other anons would likely deal with if they were in my place as BO.
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>>4623 Wew, I only knew of this movie as furry-bait, but this really puts it up another level.
>>4618 >it's okay to have degenerate desires and impulses, as long as they're not too extreme This is the stupidest shit I've read this night. How come no one called you out for being a massive retard? Do you not understand what degeneracy means? Having degenerate thoughts and impulses always leads to the extreme. Our definition of degeneracy is proof that we should have zero tolerance of it. If you have thoughts on messing with a tranny/sodomite, someone who isn't your race, weird sexual fetishes, or some weird rape fetishes, then you are a degenerate and need to discipline yourself.
>>4660 I think he was trying to say it's okay to have degenerate desires as long as you don't act on them. You can't help having thoughts or desires, what matters is that you don't allow yourself to degenerate because of them.
>>4663 Yeah, that's how I interpreted it as well. No one in this thread has affirmed that having such desires is good or something that should be acted on either, quite the opposite.
>>4663 > think he was trying to say it's okay to have degenerate desires as long as you don't act on them. And anon is telling you that type of mindset is unhealthy and ancap-tier delusion and inactivity to solve a problem from growing. If you have degenerate desires then it needs to be eliminated from your mind permanently. Having "desires" and allowing them to exist, sooner or later leads you to acting upon them. The idea that you can just simply have them is unrealistic especially in this day and age.
>>4660 my wording was vague, so let me clarify. all degeneracy is wrong and bad by definition, and this includes impulses and even fleeting thoughts. however, if you have degenerate thoughts, that doesn't mean you're a lost cause for the most part (pedophiliac tendencies would be too extreme, for example). the key is that you don't act on it, don't dwell on it (eg looking at porn of it) and resist it instead of feeding the appetite and making it worse. this was meant mainly for fainting anon, who seemed to have a crisis of conscience over his unusual but harmless fetish. your mind and personal history may not be ideal, but you can still improve and redeem yourself, unless as I said you've gone off the deep end, eg the tranny train. keep in mind, we all grew up in a poisonous environment. some resist, others give in, but no one is unaffected by the rampant poz in culture and media.
>>4669 >this was meant mainly for fainting anon, who seemed to be having a crisis of conscience over his unusual but harmless fetish >unusual but harmless fetish >harmless fetish Fainting anon here. It might not be as extreme as other stuff out there, but I don't consider it harmless. Like you said, it's still degenerate, and I'm still a degenerate for being into it. I might not be a lost cause, but I'm not in a great position either. I used to follow an artist on Deviant Art called Lakehurst images. He would take pictures of women sitting down or lying down in provocative poses, with the implication that hey had fainted. They weren't even particularly risque, they were about at the same level as pin-ups or fashion shoots at worst. But to me, they may as well have been crack cocaine. I used to have a huge folder filled with these photos. I never had a normal porn collection, just lots of fetish photos. I tried deleting them, but I just ended up downloading the same photos over and over again. I've been able to stay clean for the past month or so, mostly by strictly limiting my screen time and talking long walks outdoors in my free time. A while ago I broke my no-fap streak. I was talking to an attractive female acquaintance in a casual setting, and she told me a story about a time she had fainted while working outside in the desert. I don't think she meant anything by it, but hearing that story really pushed me over the edge. Now all my old urges are coming back and I don't know what to do.
>>4246 >Seeing this, I may have been a bit trigger-happy. I did delete it after someone reported it for being a 'deradicalization' post or something to the effect of that. I've oftentimes seen posts made like this that are one-and-dones that end up derailing the thread and that often seem like disruptors. > The take-away from my mistake here is that I should wait to see if it's an actual shill before acting rather than just deleting. Criticism of these figures is absolutely permitted - as one can see from the debate left up untouched in the /rwg/ and in other threads. Based on what you wrote in your next post I highly doubt you accept said criticism because you definitely put a limit to how far it can go and that limit is "no, these shooters have not been handled to commit atrocities that would only benefit kikes." Other threads have not been spared the purging either. I don't post in /rwg/ because I've grown to see it as a nein-thorn in /fascist/'s side, a cesspool of deluded maniacs praising shooters who would have the total backing of mods and where any effort to have them possibly see things from the other side would be totally in vain. Besides, the picture of zionist Breivik featured in the OP just gives me all the more incentive not to go there. >I personally do not view the strategy of the recent mass-shooters as one that will bring salvation to our race by any means, but I see that these events are inevitably going to occur, and I hold a view that I think it is not good to attack our own side too much That's an erroneous opinion but I'm not sure to care anymore. I wasted way too much time trying to open people's eyes, you don't get it, they don't get it, none of you make any effort to dig for information disagreeing with your comfy view as if you were scared shitless of it. It is that abysmal really and most disappointing. >given that leftists and jews never eat themselves alive jews have a survival strategy where they can actually do that. They also purge their own who run mad and oppose world jewry. Very few but that happens too (see Bobby Fischer, or the one who made the movie Defamation, or perhaps one of the guys who worked on the WW2 German camps, I think one of them was a kike). There is also the fact that jews seldom soil their hands so it's hard to establish a comparison. It's also dishonest because jews and leftists are not the one resisting their extermination and not the ones striving to regain power. The simple fact that they are already in power and can abuse it at will means you cannot make such comparisons because our needs and methods are diametrically opposed. > Fascists and White Nationalists seem to spend all of their time desperately trying to act like they never commit to action I could talk about that in detail but my post would probably get deleted and I loathe putting a foot into /rwg/ knowing the shitstorm that would trigger, unless you would for a moment resist the urge to click on delete. >and that anyone who acts is by necessity Mossad, false flag, etc. Who said "by necessity"? It is a false claim since we (as we the skeptics here and elsewhere) on the contrary say that it might not be what you think it is. However, I would tend to say that I'm yet to find one shooter who I could view as a reasonnable, intelligent and true f#/NS individual. As far as I see, absolute all these shooters so closely follow the same overall pattern that you could stick a copyrighted brand on it. >>4635 >That is why I deleted it in the first place after seeing the report earlier, as I read one or two lines and noticed that I had read basically the same post in slightly different versions hundreds of times. That's exactly why I don't think I should even bother. I'm afraid that at the present time, you are somehow mono-maniacally against the idea that you could have been deceived. Yet the clues and the solid logic backing this thought are quite numerous but it might require sticking your head out of /fascist/ and consider the opinions of other people who might not even be that close to our political views (but still on the right or perhaps closer to neutral and old-school liberalism or conservatism). It's absurd to think that only information coming from fascist-verified people should be taken into account. You lot can totally accept the idea that 9/11 is a complete inside job orchestrated by Zionists which is on itself a massively extraordinary claim considering all the elements involved, but would not even once prove skeptical of the most insane form of ultra violence pretending coming from our side by few men supposedly acting alone when such operations would be so much easier to set up for (((them))) considering the assets and scales involved. Nope, suddenly all form of cautious measure vanishes and we're all enrolled into one big cult running for the abyss. What am I supposed to make of that?
I must really ponder the usefulness of posting on this board, which like any place of discussion that gets deleted, loses a percentage of its users and a lot of its content. Posting there takes time if one cares about substantiating one's point, but the risk of having the content deleted at one's whim makes this pointless, no matter the amount of web pages I might save and screenshots I might take (I always do, often to share them out there). Would this alone not be enough, what was known as perhaps the last place where open minded right wing people could voice their opinions is now turning into a tyrannical and ridiculous echo chamber by the day, one that attracts absolute nutcases, case in point: >>4634 At least on the "old" /pol/s people could talk much more openly without being baited, beaten and bullied into accepting one world view. I do not know what is worse here, between this anon's obvious boot licking that reeks off of Wormtongue's auditive miasmas or the absolute over the top hypersensitivity that is tantamount to the sorry tendency of some people, assuming they are genuine, turning into the most embarrassing and ridiculous snowflakes. Yes, fascist snowflakes, as if we needed anything that stupid now. I mean look at that retarded post that is a whole pile of complete projection and complete abuse of an advantage, namely that of being able to make any claim because any response is purged. >Don't cry out in pain as you strike fag I read your parrot "dissenting opinion" it's not dissenting nor is it an opinion and it has absolutely no value, it's just simply spam regurgitation and only weak faggots and shills write such nonsense. You always write the same shit without any substance backing up your extra ordinary claims and your low quality shit deserves to be removed. >It is funny you should mention neinchan too, that's where scum like you were writing this derad shill garbage on in the past and you got shredded like a million times over by actual arguments because nein was very pro freedom fighter. And now point by point. >Don't cry out in pain as you strike Accusing me of being a jew when I belong to the side that keeps pointing out how these shooters for the most part never expose the jews. This alone should make anyone sane realize the duplicity at play, and this alone should also raise all manners of red flags regarding anons who use such projecting accusations. >fag Gratuitous. >I read your parrot "dissenting opinion" Which is an easy accusation to make now that my post has been deleted by a BO who seems all too easily manipulated. You on the other hand have an absolute free reign to display uncritical support of crazied shooters. > it's not dissenting By definition it is. >nor is it an opinion I still think it is one. As far as I know it's still me typing stuff on a given subject. But maybe definitions have changed.
> it has absolutely no value Another cheap claim which is hard to refute since the posts these people disagree with get deleted. >it's just simply spam regurgitation Your blind shilling of mass shooters is just as spammy. >only weak faggots Gratuitous. >and shills There's a whole thread that could be written on when exactly the use of the word shill became such a one-sided loaded accusation that's the privilege of a few to use against dissenters and skeptics. It's impossible not to see the pressure and the attempt at controlling the narrative that's enforced this way, as if someone were afraid this whole strategy of tension (wink wink) would risk cooling down. For the reminder, you really want to look into a dictionary as to what shilling entails. You're a shill just as much as me, we're simply not "shilling" for the same narrative. >such nonsense Again, it would be hard to counter this since all posts get constantly deleted. This is tragic. > You always write the same shit Perhaps yes, so do you. We might be both deaf, who knows? >without any substance That is a blatant lie but then again as all posts get deleted, it's easy to pretend they were just hot air. >backing up your extra ordinary claims Extraordinary? It's not more extraordinary than kikes organizing 9/11 or shooters suddenly going on a rampage into civilian zones to sell us their so precious manifestos. >your low quality shit I object, again. >deserves to be removed You know I'm quite partial to Aktion T4 but I'm willing to talk to you nevertheless. >It is funny you should mention neinchan too Sorry to learn that your lovely little autistic board went down. I barely posted there, didn't feel the need to do so as it was just a contrived tyrannical echo chamber where 99% of content was filled with the sounds of people giving head to saints. It was ridiculous. I learned late that it was closed and after having read some of what 9's BO/admin said (leaving aside the claims of him pretending, or not being someone else), I agree with him although he was wrong on Breivik too. >derad shill garbage Ah, derad, the magical word. This one too would probably deserve its own thread. I truly cannot decide if it's been invented by obsessive autistic snowflakes or the (((damage control team))). As I said I barely posted on nein so this does not apply to me. Besides, my opinions (which have been deleted on /fascist/ because they didn't toe the line of blind praise of them saviors) quite sufficiently demonstrated that I have never been against violence and I'm painfully aware of the conflicts to come, there is no point denying this or even trying to avoid it. We need the battle and there are countless scumbags who deserve a slow and painful death. But I made a clear difference between sadistic fuckwits and genuine and respectable fighters. >you got shredded like a million times over by actual arguments I chiefly post on /fascist/ and more open minded /pol/s as far as chans are concerned, I didn't notice any shredding, sorry. However, shredding is precisely what would be to come if BO would be so kind to allow me to reply to the two deranged anons who jumped on me in the surviving an assassination thread. But then again I wonder if it's of any worth, I feel like casting pearls before swine. BO is obviously on your side and my time is very precious.
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Ah, I see deradicalization faggots moved here since they are having a hard time somewhere else. The fact that the loudest kvetching ones are often christcucks is not a coincidence either. I also see ITT they are trying to project autistically, suggesting that the support for our very few White freedom fighters is some kind of false flag to make "Whites look bad", lol. I mean, the deradicalization intent is so blatant here that I don't need to elaborate on this any further. BO stay strong, /fascist/ is possibly the last bastion for us Whites to discuss among like minded individuals about national socialism as the only salvation for our race (at least on a place that is still on clearweb). Remember that 16chan is the type of place kept under monitoring by so called "extremism experts" (as openly revealed by think tanks such as CREST) and by other putrid kike-associated individuals. >they monitor 24/7/365 anonymous imageboards and chats >they spy on people, dox them and even get them arrested for wrongthink >they ask hosts to cease their service for places with "hate speech" on them >they get places shut down >the places they cannot shut down, they infiltrate and try to subvert Neinchan was just the last in a long list of places they managed to disturb by alienating the userbase (in this case thanks to the retardation of one of the admins who fell for the trap). Many places have been either closed or went under heavy attack waves that changed them (on top of my head I remember fatchan being closed, 9chan being disrupted with feds knocking at the door of the owner, julay being heavily spammed until the owner ragequitted half of the boards, and finally a bunch of sissies pressuring anon cafe's owner into shutting /fascist/ down). As I type this post this board is also suffering a spam attack. Don't give in BO, you are doing good: they bash you because they get frustrated at our /fascist/ community being still alive and kicking despite multiple relocations and attacks. Since the multiple relocations didn't break us, they attack you in the attempt to alienate you from your own loyal userbase. Don't listen to these freaks, you have been managing your place well these years.
I see some reactionaries and supposed fascists argue that the British Empire protected and save the White race. Is it true or are the people defending the Anglo empire just retarded?
>>4694 They're retarded - the British Empire is a large part of the reason why so many Non-White countries today are developed in some sense and are in competition with White countries. They colonized these lands for resources and in order to make money - and eventually they started building infrastructure, bringing factories there and allowing these countries to catch up in some extent with the West. And not to mention the fact that these workers will work for dirt cheap compared to pampered White Western workers. The British Empire among other similar empires actually paved the way for our race's destruction. Read Spengler's 'Man and Technics' for an expanded version of what I basically just said. It's a short book.>>4694
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>>4690 Don't worry, anon. The anger of Christians and deradicalization posters (whether they are knowingly operating as bad agents or not) is proof enough to me that we are on the right path. The only way to stop /fascist/ at this point is either to have me v& or to make hosting it anywhere online impossible. They've tried the latter strategy, but so far they have not succeeded. The shills have increased since we have arrived here, but they are as pathetic as ever. I will never give in to them.
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>>4701 Thank you, based Fash BO.
>>4698 >the British Empire is a large part of the reason why so many Non-White countries today are developed in some sense Oh so that's why some people in these circles thought the Anglos are evil. Not because they enslaved indians and the like, but because of greentext related.
>>4706 >some people in these circles What the fuck does it even mean? Yes, we as Whites only care about what will damage us. And if you are White yourself, people like you with pathological superhero complex to save brown people are a huge problem for our racial survival that definitely needs a Final Solution. For starter I suggest you to fuck off to the nearest third world shithole so we don't have to bear your moralfaggot backstabbing of your own race.
>>4706 I would hope that we would not have so many slave moralists among us. Also, Anglos aren't 'evil', that's too simplistic, really. There have been certain Anglo tendencies that have had negative effects on the world (in philosophy, etc) but I don't think it's inherent to them.
>>4694 No it's not true and anyone who defends the Anglos as #based are retarded, because the Anglo Empire was controlled by kikes and shilled a-lot of Israeli bullshit that strayed them away from their Aryan roots or they are just outright not Aryan at all. The We Wuz Israelites came from the Anglo, Puritanism comes from the Anglo, White slavery was done by the Anglo, and White ethno-states were destroyed by them. The British Empire never protected the European race, but ruined Europe as far as Greece and Russia shilling and enforcing their Judeo-Christian faggotry. >>4706 Is this facefist? Did your poo ass somehow found this board after lurking so far? Fuck you and Fuck Indians, the Anglo didn't treat you like shit that was the mudslimes who mass enslaved and raped you not Whites or Anglos.
>>4709 > Also, Anglos aren't 'evil', that's too simplistic, really. They aren't inherently evil, they're just really stupid.
>>4694 The ultra-kiked British Empire was solely a commercial empire, perhaps the first of its kind, an early capitalistic-plutocratic compound. Look at the kind of treatment White kids got in England alone to understand on whose side the crown really was. It went for massive industrialization at the expense of life and dignity. The communists did the same. Only National Germany thought of its people first.
>>4701 >em shills So I assume this translate as: "no, I will never consider the shooters to be part of something more nefarious, even at the expense of the shooters themselves." Is that correct? >>4712 >White slavery was done by the Anglo Unfortunately not only them. :-(
>>4690 >Ah, I see deradicalization faggots moved here since they are having a hard time somewhere else. >The fact that the loudest kvetching ones are often christcucks is not a coincidence either. I don't think anyone takes the christcucks seriously that much. The worst are modern loud protestants who more than catholics seem to have a seething hatred for pagan roots. >I also see ITT they are trying to project autistically, suggesting that the support for our very few White freedom fighters is some kind of false flag to make "Whites look bad", lol. Yet that is exactly what goes on but the real purpose goes beyond that. >I mean, the deradicalization intent is so blatant here that I don't need to elaborate on this any further. This reads much more like a forced soapbox speech by someone trying hard to sound like one of us. Blah blah "our brethren" "our martyrs" "how dare you" blah blah. <I'm still waiting for BO's answer to know if I have the greenlight to post in RWG to cover this very specific type of claim. I prefer to follow this methodology that is clear for all to see. >BO stay strong, /fascist/ is possibly the last bastion for us Whites to discuss among like minded individuals about national socialism as the only salvation for our race (at least on a place that is still on clearweb). Rated 18. >Remember that 16chan is the type of place kept under monitoring by so called "extremism experts" (as openly revealed by think tanks such as CREST) and by other putrid kike-associated individuals. I think it would be safe to say that all chans are monitored, even obscure ones. Obviously those with little activity are not as important as others. 16 is no exception. >Neinchan was just the last in a long list of places they managed to disturb by alienating the userbase (in this case thanks to the retardation of one of the admins who fell for the trap). 9's admin seems to have changed his mind. I do not deny that the kikes would likely try to derail things by presenting a very specific type of deradicalization, which would amount to blackpills more than anything. After all, it makes sense that they would want to control all angles. Thus the praise-derad becomes an exacerbated false dichotomy that denies any gradient in opinions. It's like falling for communism vs capitalism. >Many places have been either closed or went under heavy attack waves that changed them (on top of my head I remember fatchan being closed, 9chan being disrupted with feds knocking at the door of the owner, julay being heavily spammed until the owner ragequitted half of the boards, and finally a bunch of sissies pressuring anon cafe's owner into shutting /fascist/ down). On the other hand, you could say that forcing us to be automatically associated with terrorists would be the perfect solution to harass our free speech. How much bad faith does it take not to realize that guilt by association in front of legal pressures is a very potent tool in the US? This was pointed out early on on 8chan's /pol/, as soon as Tarrant became big news. This is just one example. Then, in return, this requires adaptation. We need speech spaces where we can gather easily and talk freely. For anything related to IRL Hunter-Killers, private and more secure "rooms" should be used. For example, anything needing both a password and a sponsor by someone from inside. And if it needs to be repeated, anyone wanting to act would be off doing it alone, it's just the surest way to be efficient, therefore implying being quite secretive about your plans even on chans, AND NOT POSTING ABOUT YOUR SHIT ON CHANS before or after because that is the surest way to get said chan(s) attacked. You need to be able to deny any direct tie to organized violence. Nobody said it would be easy or even pleasant to swallow up your pride when inside of you you wish you could openly show support of the few special men. >As I type this post this board is also suffering a spam attack. Such as? You mean, my two posts being spam now? >Don't give in BO, you are doing good: they bash you because they get frustrated at our /fascist/ community being still alive and kicking despite multiple relocations and attacks. Seeing /fascist/ close is the last thing I want and relocations are annoying af. They hurt boards and every time this happens some users never bother to stick with the new one. >Since the multiple relocations didn't break us, they attack you in the attempt to alienate you from your own loyal userbase. So you claim that the entire user base is 100% pro shooters now? As if, for example, no one here ever wondered once if any of these shooters might have been played up? Like Patrick "Pat. C." Crusius for example?
>>4746 >I don't think anyone takes the christcucks seriously that much. People who don't do it at their own detriment.
>>4746 >I'm still waiting for BO's answer to know if I have the greenlight to post in RWG LMAO you can post whatever you want, just don't cry when someone shits on you for posting cringe opticuck faggotry in a thread about the race war > forcing us to be automatically associated with terrorists No one is forcing anything, dum dum. Tribalism and retaliation against hostile aggressors should be the natural behavior in response to an ongoing genocide, but not according to you - better stick to the optics, right? Currently ZOG is adapting their laws in Western countries to deem as terrorism the simple act of wrongthing, which means you will be charged and arrested even if you literally didn't do anything at all (already happened multiple times, FYI). If you are willing to accept what the ZOG decide "supporting terrorism" is and obey its command, you are the one who has already lost but still pretends to be "one of us" >my two posts being spam now? No, earlier today some spam threads appeared in the catalog, I have also seen the p*do spam bot on /pol/ at one point. >So you claim that the entire user base is 100% pro shooters now? No I am saying that people criticizing a good BO such as Fash BO are up to no good >As if, for example, no one here ever wondered once if any of these shooters might have been played up? Like Patrick "Pat. C." Crusius for example? Go back to Veterans Today with this schizo unsubstantiated bullshit.
>>4746 >I'm still waiting for BO's answer to know if I have the greenlight to post in RWG to cover this very specific type of claim Kek you don't need my permission to post shit. There's been critical discussion before, so I don't know why you're acting like I delete any criticism whatsoever of these people, because it's clearly not the case.
>>4771 >LMAO you can post whatever you want, just don't cry when someone shits on you for posting cringe opticuck faggotry in a thread about the race war I know what to expect in RWG, the thread literally stinks. It's pure concentrated mass shooter wanking. Hence why I'm extremely reluctant to waste my time in it. <How can you have a race war if you do not know who is organizing the destruction of your race? :3 >No one is forcing anything, dum dum. Lie. Removal of skeptic posts is enforcement of one single party line. >Tribalism and retaliation against hostile aggressors should be the natural behavior in response to an ongoing genocide >hostile aggressors Humor me. Migrants are definitely insufferable and must be displaced, but simply comparing who's been more aggressive between the shooters and the targets settles this stupid claim quite quickly. Also people engaging in retaliation would actually want to know what this happened and who is behind this change, because that's what normal humans do, they want to know who's guilty. But they would never get a proper answer from these "saints". >better stick to the optics, right? No. You know you're being extremely dishonest because I made it clear I wasn't against action but criticized the choice of targets and the red herring manifestos. It's actually very simple, you have a big target and yet it keeps missing. How odd. >Currently ZOG is adapting their laws in Western countries to deem as terrorism the simple act of wrongthing I know. But the "ZOG" is people. 50 random browns gunned down in mosques are not those who write those laws, in case you didn't know. >If you are willing to accept what the ZOG decide "supporting terrorism" is and obey its command, you are the one who has already lost but still pretends to be "one of us" IF >No, earlier today some spam threads appeared in the catalog, I have also seen the p*do spam bot on /pol/ at one point. I have no relation with that and I don't see how it relates to my arguments. >No I am saying that people criticizing a good BO such as Fash BO are up to no good The cult of BO, right there. You might even embarrass him. Since when BOs were to be given a complete free pass? >>4774 >Kek you don't need my permission to post shit. There's been critical discussion before, so I don't know why you're acting like I delete any criticism whatsoever of these people, because it's clearly not the case. Really? Both on this new board and the old one you were deleting my messages despite how I always took care to substantiate them. It's not your first time. More generally, there was and still is literally not a single ounce of skeptical posts being allowed regarding the shooters. It's automatically derad-wahwah-faggot-report-delete. You just can't stand that we don't praise your crazied shooters who always gun down targets the ZOG doesn't care about, that's all. These deaths are not even drops in an ocean but are always exploited by ZOG to hunt us down and precisely destroy ibs. So do not pretend being open to discussion because you clearly are not. You turn this board into a redux of nein and we know how this ended.
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>>4784 >It's not your first time. More generally, there was and still is literally not a single ounce of skeptical posts being allowed regarding the shooters. What I'm reading from this is that your posts are so routinely bad and indistinguishable from a shill's that I have ended up deleting them more often than not. Because this is certainly no blanket problem, as there are critical posts still in /rwg/ at this very moment that I had never even thought of deleting and if we go and look at the old thread as archived on Picochan we will see debate back and forth. http://picochanwvqfa2xsrfzlul4x4aqtog2eljll5qnj5iagpbhx2vmfqnid.onion/fascist/1020
>>4784 Careful with that independent thought, there citizen. It will not be tolerated on /fascist/. Only the strictest conformity is allowed, stifling any real discussion. Though /fascist/ has quickly become the most active board, you will find much better moderation on /pol/. Good luck.
>>4795 >extremely childish, faggy behavior complete with Pepe
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>>4803 >>4804 >shitting on White freedom fighters >"independent thought" It's funny how globohomosexuals can apply censorship at any length, yet if some form of "censorship" is applied to kept our places clean and free of endless distraction and diluition flames then it's a capital sin. Your butthurt divide and conquer attempt is showing. Pathetic. You and >>4784 have literally the entirety of the internet to voice your skepticism about the Saints. Yes, there is a different consensus here and BO has the right to defend his line of thought and his community's positions the way he better sees fit without having to endure your walls of text of autistic screeching. If you don't like it here, GO AWAY. You're not welcome.
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>>4815 This is amazing, I love it even if I don't know the gook anime reference.
>>4816 Here's the original if you want to compare, it's even funnier after seeing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU21rCWkuJw
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>>4817 lol, autism levels do not decrease as time go by in regard to the reception of the Saint's holy deed
>>4815 Kek, fucking brilliant.
>>4739 if you're a non-White person and got enslaved by the Anglo then you deserve it. Again fuck darkies they have no place or value in the world just like (You).
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What opinion does this board have on NSBM (National Socialist Black Metal)? Personally am a fan.
>>4830 A)I think you're referring to the wrong guy. B) LOL I guess non-Whites who are in fascism are gonna have a bad time.
>>4844 >I guess non-Whites who are in fascism are gonna have a bad time. You're damn right they will. Why would there be non-Whites involved with the goals of White fascists? Non-Whites can adopt Fascist principles for themselves if they so choose - we cannot stop them - but they would of necessity be looking out for their own interests before that of completely different peoples.
Is it true that jews rule the world is due to their how IQ they are?
>>4863 No, jews rule the world thanks to the high level of tribalism among them that they are able to maintain throughout the centuries as a highly efficient survival strategy. We Whites are currently losing because we don't have it anymore.
>>4869 The intelligence of the average jew has always struck me as being fairly 'crafty' more than anything too. I'm not going to pretend their dumb, but they're clearly not the geniuses they make themselves out to be. That is just them stroking their own egos. Anything a tricky parasite would need to survive, a jew has.
Do you guys think that the Natsoc really went to space and created bases on Mars and the Moon?
>>4895 >You're schizo for asking a question "Schizo" is nothing, but a buzzword served to make someone stupid for asking or thinking in a line of way that they don't like. A common tactic used by kikes and newniggers. Either answer the question or don't reply.
>>4893 Is there any evidence for this? If you have any I'd be interested to see it. It's obviously far-fetched and a bit absurd sounding but it is always fun to explore this type of stuff. We know they were trying to create flying saucer like crafts that were remarkably advanced, but the question is if they were ever completed to such an extent. I happen to believe that the UFO sightings that became extremely common from 1947 onward are not linked to the Third Reich. In any scenario where the Third Reich never fell they would be holed up in Antarctica, probably in the caverns or in Agartha.
>>4898 We had a thread on cafe where anons had some information about how there was evidence that pin-pointed the possibility that the Germans may have built flying saucers such as pic related. There's claims that the CIA admitted that they had documents on the saucers and possible success along with the whole Operation Paperclip having supposed aliens, but I dunno if it's just made up shit or contains truths.
>>4899 >Paperclip Meant Operation HighJump.
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>>4899 >>4900 Highjump is definitely very strange given the timing and the scale of the operation. I have heard some wild claims about Admiral Byrd, but less proof unfortunately. All of the stuff about Die Glocke and the Haunebu is real - the question is whether it was built. The so-called 'foo fighters' are definitely a possibility when it comes to working / experimental Third Reich tech.
>>4897 <Yes the SS had flying saucers capable of faster than light travel, atom bombs too. They could have easily won the war, but Hitler said "fuck it" Allowed millions a Germans to needlessly die, then decided to fuck off to mars and leave Germany to suffer 1000 years of jews. He is sleeping comfortably in his cryostasis tube on Mars, and will return in 900 years or so >>4899 >>4901 These pics sum up the flying saucer program. Most likely they made a few mock ups, perhaps experimented with trying to get them off the ground, likely they faked a few pics of them in the air to use as propaganda
>>4902 Your first response is just straight ignorance and isn't what any of the claims of Highjump or my posts implies. I'm starting to think you're either a bad faith actor or someone who enjoys not looking into things further and outright denying them like a shitlib. It's specifically states that the saucers were built and were used late and after the war, which is why all of the claims of flying saucers are after 1945. There's no implication that the Germans had technology that could of had them win the war just flying saucers that can move incredibly fast and on supposed "free energy". >Most likely they made a few mock ups, perhaps experimented with trying to get them off the ground, likely they faked a few pics of them in the air to use as propaganda Why would the Germans use something as propaganda when they've been keeping it a secret from both the Germanic public and the allies? What propaganda could they spew before and after the war when they were clearly losing? It would serve no purpose other than scaring the SU and America temporarily or not even frightening them at all, because they could simply dare them to use them.
>>4904 >I'm starting to think you're either a bad faith actor or someone who enjoys not looking into things further and outright denying them like a shitlib. Im starting to think kikes are pushing this shit to make /our/guys look like nutjobs and you are a moron for buying it. >It's specifically states that the saucers were built and were used late and after the war Source? Everything I've have seen dates 1938-45. By '44 they had interplanetary vehicles. >There's no implication that the Germans had technology that could of had them win the war >just flying saucers that can move t and on supposed "free energy". Pick ONE Your first fucking post asked if they went to the Moon and Mars They had "incredibly fast" air craft, but didnt bother to utilize them? They had the ability to drop bombs, FROM FUCKING SPACE but didnt bother to to level Britain or the US? Clearly you have drank the >>>/b/20389 koolaid. >Why would the Germans use something as propaganda when they've been keeping it a secret from both the Germanic public and the allies? What propaganda could they spew before and after the war when they were clearly losing? It would serve no purpose other than scaring the SU and America temporarily or not even frightening them at all, because they could simply dare them to use them. Perhaps they made the propaganda (maybe to justify the failed project as not a complete waste of resources) but decided not to deploy it, for those very reasons
>>4907 >Perhaps they made the propaganda (maybe to justify the failed project as not a complete waste of resources) but decided not to deploy it, for those very reasons ...Or even MORE likely, all this shit was simply fabricated after the war to shill to faggots that will buy anything
>>4907 >Im starting to think kikes are pushing this shit to make /our/guys look like nutjobs and you are a moron for buying it. You're actually retarded. >Source? Everything I've have seen dates 1938-45. By '44 they had interplanetary vehicles. Your pictures show projects that they were working and experimenting on. The only saucers that were used were the Haunebus. The saucers weren't used and have no been reported to have been seen and used until after the war. >Pick one That's not the type of technology that can help win you a war against the entire world you moron. The free-energy is said to have only powered the saucers to fly at high-speeds. The amount of Saucers were scarcely limited and not enough to win an entire war against the Soviet Union and the United States. >They had "incredibly fast" air craft, but didnt bother to utilize them? They were not prepared in time nor manufactured in large numbers for the war. >They had the ability to drop bombs, FROM FUCKING SPACE but didnt bother to to level Britain or the US? There is no information or statements that says this. It's only stated they they can move super fast and shoot canons and that's it. Why are you making shit up just to discredit the German UFO like a CIAnigger? >Perhaps they made the propaganda (maybe to justify the failed project as not a complete waste of resources) but decided not to deploy it, for those very reasons Do you have proof for this or do you enjoy making shit up? There was no propaganda nor any reason to use the UFOs as propaganda when they were top-secret. &gt;&gt;&gt;/b//ufology-explained-the-german-breakaway-group-psyops-disinfo-antarctica-reptilians-aliens-u-boats-nazi-ufos-technology-flying-saucers/ https://monadmantis.medium.com/the-kgbs-declassified-files-on-alleged-ufo-encounter-in-antarctica-44203ff64352 https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica11.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWhszoC4F8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLPedQdHAKc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssO12u2DxD4
>>4911 Here's a better link. https://archive.is/PGqEJ
>>4911 >&gt;&gt;&gt;/b//ufology-explained-the-german-breakaway-group-psyops-disinfo-antarctica-reptilians-aliens-u-boats-nazi-ufos-technology-flying-saucers/ So you didn't drink the koolaid, you're the same fucking nigger that has been spamming that shit on /pol/. Fuck off. No one is buying this shit.
>>4914 >So you didn't drink the koolaid, you're the same fucking nigger that has been spamming that shit on /pol/. Yeah you are indeed retarded, I'm not from /pol/ you dumbass and we had talks about UFOs on the interesting links thread on cafe months ago. My link explains boomertards and controlled oppositions who claim that the NatSoc were reptilians and shiet and cry "nazi" on everything they don't like. I'll be waiting for your IQ to increase and for you to have a counter-argument instead you crying boogeymanz.
>>4916 >>&gt;&gt;&gt;/b//ufology-explained-the-german-breakaway-group Riiiiight... it was totally someone else spamming that exact same link >>>/b/20389 >>>/b/20312
>>4917 Correct it is a different person, because this link was posted on cafe months back. I don't visit /b/ and nor do I think that the NS are coming back or think we should rely on any type of return. /b/ is always filled with autism and my links are completely different from his own. Unless you wanna have some decisive proof that I'm same person otherwise you're just being retarded.
>>4914 >Fuck off. No one is buying this shit. Lol then you will be disappointed to learn that there were anons who did believe in it. >>1077 https://archive.vn/l50Ft and had way more inf
>>4920 Whatever floats your boat. You started this with >Do you guys think that the Natsoc really went to space and created bases on Mars and the Moon? I gave my opinion. You clearly have yours. No point in continuing this
Most stuff surrounding UFOs is a deception plain and simple. UFOs and aliens are continuously being injected into the public consciousness, especially in the last year or so. The US government and media clearly want us to see their repeated releases of alleged footage from the Navy. The question is why. None of this stuff is new. The government has been investigating UFOs sinc