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Sigma Male Grindset Blackshirt 07/16/2021 (Fri) 18:27:43 No. 8690
What is a Sigma Male? https://en.wikimannia.org/Sigma_male >The outsider who doesn’t play the social game and manage to win at it anyhow. The sigma is hated by alphas because sigmas are the only men who don't accept or at least acknowledge, however grudgingly, their social dominance. (NB: Alphas absolutely hate to be laughed at and a sigma can often enrage an alpha by doing nothing more than smiling at him.) Everyone else is vaguely confused by them. In a social situation, the sigma is the man who stops in briefly to say hello to a few friends accompanied by a Tier 1 girl that no one has ever seen before. Sigmas like women, but tend to be contemptuous of them. They are usually considered to be strange. Gammas often like to think they are sigmas, failing to understand that sigmas are not social rejects, they are at the top of the social hierarchy despite their refusal to play by its rules. https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/sigma-male/ >Sigma male is a slang term used in masculinist subcultures for a popular, successful, but highly independent and self-reliant man. Another term for a sigma male is a lone wolf. >Sigma male has seen most of its usage by the same members of what is known as the manosphere and who use other Greek letters to form a social hierarchy, such as alpha male, beta male, and omega male. The term has also been used to mock all of these labels used to categorize men. (these are just some short definitions. They come from normalfag sources, so they're a bit off, and they use faggy language. For more detailed info, you can just google around a bit) It's basically a new meme that has become popular in the last couple of days/weeks. There are many memes about it on different platforms on the internet. Most of the memes satirize motivational quotes that are often posted by normalfags on social media (a good deal of them are niggers who LARP as "entrepreneurs"). Much like Nazi memes, they are wrapped in multiple layers of irony. So some of the people who post them, do it ironically (Redditors), and others do it semi post-ironically (right-wingers). The general concept makes a lot of sense imo, but it's often ridiculed because, like it says above, it's also kind of a cope for Beta's >I-I'm n-n-ot a beta, I'm just a Sigma, bro... he,he. Examples of Sigma Males from movies and tv shows are: John Wayne, Michael Corleone, Tommy Shelby, Julius Caesar, Stannis Baratheon, etc. Here are some examples of the memes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bojwjK8hGFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7JSq4A5f-Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taGkZ6JILbA These are just some of them, there's plenty of compilations on YouTube. Reason for this Thread: Many of the White Nationalist political prisoners fit the description of a Sigma Male: >John Ausonius >Anders Breivik >Brenton Tarrant There are also a lot of right-wing/Fascist figures who fit the description: >Henry Ford >Arkan (Serbian folk hero) >Cecil Rhodes (founder of Rhodesia) >Dr. Oskar Dirlewanger (philanthropist) Basically every other Fascist figure fits the description, at least to a certain extend. The concept of a Sigma male also correlates heavily with William Pierce's concept of "the special 10%". This thread serves to create Fascist Sigma male memes and to further discuss the topic.
>>8690 >The concept of a Sigma male also correlates heavily with William Pierce's concept of "the special 10%". I forgot to mention it also correlates with Jonothan bowden's concept of the "cultured thug".
Is there any conversion to the sigma male mindset or are you an omega for life once you become one?
>>8692 Difficult question. One can argue that a Sigma is but a reformed Beta. One could also argue that the Sigma was always a Sigma, and simply fulfilled his own destiny. This would mean that there basically is no chance for Beta's (and certainly not for Omega's)
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>>8692 you want a conversion? worry about yourself. pursue practical hobbies. work out. stop actively yearning for female attention, or attention otherwise. this is a diseased civilization. rise above it and only make intimate connections with others who also managed to. ideals matter more than labels or institutions (generally, anyway).
>>8696 It seems like I am more or less on the right path, then. I don't engage in clown world more than I have to, but I try to keep myself somewhat in check.
How useful can beta males be? I'm putting all my cards on the table here - I am a beta. I know I'll get the laughter pointed at me but I need to keep going. I feel that some betas are going to be betas for the rest of their lives. Is this true? Were you all once betas in your lives? Does being a dick/rude to everybody make one a sigma? What would one have to give up to be an alpha and sigma? I'm sorry for asking a lot of questions but I would like to learn perspectives from other people. If I am denied any learning since I'm a beta, I understand.
>>8699 >How useful can beta males be? quite useful e.g. Terry Nichols >I am a beta. Since I am a sigma, and you're on the same board as me, you're probably a sigma as well ;) >Does being a dick/rude to everybody make one a sigma? No, that makes you an alpha. A sigma simply achieves success by any way he sees fit. >What would one have to give up to be an alpha and sigma? your beta status/mindset >I'm sorry for BETA MALE
Another factor to look into is if race comes into question. Can only Whites be able to produce sigma/alphas? I mean if the shitskin assortments were conquered by Whites then I guess that's true? As in there can never exist a non White sigma since sigmas requires one to be free. And a non-White is never free since he is a subhuman. A subhuman who is forced to keep wallowing in misery.
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All this alpha/beta/sigma faggotry is a load of bullshit. It reminds me of made up tumblr genders and women obsessing over starsigns.
>>8705 There are some real dynamics but in the end it's an analogy and analogies are imperfect maps not the terrain, and often taken too far. Similar to Myers-Brigg personality types.
>>8702 >Can only Whites be able to produce sigma/alphas? How blue pilled are you? Niggers are basically the stereotype of an alpha. They are more violent, more assertive, higher testosterone, better at sports etc. I'm not defending them btw. They obviously need to be removed from our society. >inb4 anons start sperging out It's basic biology. Women are naturally attracted to "bad boy" types, and niggers are more likely to be those types. >>8705 Another blue pilled faggot. The alpha-beta dynamic is one of the most basic red pills. The "sigma male" is debatable.
Well, Is this a new discovery? "Sigma male". Sounds just like a description of the gorilla in nature who for a time or otherwise fails to overthrow the silverback except the more intricate human version. I think this is retarded social theory trying just setting labels on things instead of seeing recurring themes from nature, Can you really not just be a person anymore? Isn't it enough to be White? Can you really not just be yourself? Maybe it's better than that kike's Freudian theories of anal personality though but it's still retarded. Why should we seperate ourselves into units? It's Nature has made us this way. Golden advice from a great man: Don't compare yourself to others, you will only insult yourself.
>>8707 >it's an analogy it's not an analogy, (completely wrong use of the term, probably due to ESl) It's based on statistics and tendencies. It's obviously not 100% correct, similar to how IQ does not determine a persons intelligence 100% correctly, but it's still very accurate. >Myers-Brigg personality types. That's based on the teachings of Carl Jung and is also relatively useful. >>8709 >social theory trying just setting labels >being afraid of muh labels this is typical soyboy faggotry. That's also why they dislike race realism. It "puts people in boxes". >Can you really not just be a person anymore? more reddit-speak >Can you really not just be yourself? idem >Why should we seperate ourselves into units? To better analyze societies. To create more efficient systems. >Golden advice from a great man: Don't compare yourself to others, you will only insult yourself. If you're talking about Bobby Fisher, he was good on the JQ, but was ultimately a liberal. He believed America should be given back to the treeniggers. An effeminate, anti-White worldview.
>>8710 4chaimmer boatjumper please, It's just like the gorilla analogy in nature and that's why you wouldn't quoute that part.
>>8710 labels are for faggots. they are easily and often quickly corrupted. live out ideals instead of opting to sort yourself into some box.
>>8709 Bobby Fischer is a jew.
>>8713 A half Jew, if I am recalling correctly, but one of the rare few who saw his people as they truly are—disgusting anti-Nature freaks
>>8708 >Niggers are basically the stereotype of an alpha. They are more violent, more assertive, higher testosterone, better at sports etc. Wow you have a cuck mentality and are overall wrong. Fuck off back to Reddit and find somewhere else to be a retard at.
>>8708 >Niggers are basically the stereotype of an alpha. No. >They are more violent, more assertive, higher testosterone, better at sports etc. Niggers are violent savages with no concept of self-control. They are animalistic and impulsive, and actually have higher levels of estrogen than White males. Indeed, niggers on average are more likely to be homosexual than White men. They are the opposite of masculine and alpha. In fact if you believe that niggers are masculine and alpha you have been jewed into believing in a non-Aryan stereotype of masculinity.
>>8716 >>8717 The average nigger is not alpha. But could a nigger be an alpha or even a sigma, or only a White man?
>>8718 The incel definition of alpha is wrong and non-existent in a society or hierarchy. It's degenerate and only destroys the spirit. A true and natural alpha male is well-bred, noble, strong, and a idolized leader who fights, leads and enstrengthen the clan/family or kin. Any man of a race can become an alpha, but asian and niggers alphas have rarely if not ever beaten White alpha males.
Noone cares about your omega-epsilon-gamma male, go back to 4cuck or whichever discord server you came from
>>8722 I think this is a right-wing bodybuilder twitter meme (think bronze age pervert et al). I don't know for sure. I do know that it's kind of gay but it also has meme potential which isn't to be overlooked outright.
>>8690 OP, your thread is gay and retarded. Sigma males are nothing more, but a dumb fantasy LARP for homosexuals. There is no such thing as a sigma male, Julius Caesar nor Tarrant were ones. Also we aren't right-wingers, don't know how many times this has to be said.
>>8708 >Niggers are basically the stereotype of an alpha. They are more violent, more assertive, higher testosterone, better at sports etc. Wow you're not only a kike, but a cuck too who makes shit up. Does anyone have that legendary website that btfo'd Stefan Molynx's faggotry about muh niggers being better at sports? >>8710 >It's based on statistics and tendencies You haven't posted any statistics and I doubt they're true.
>>8711 It's not an analogy. Humans are ultimately animals, and the instincts that are present in primates are also present in humans. It's deeply rooted in our biology. >>8716 >>8717 >>8725 >y-you're a cuck kike shill, etc Everything I said is rooted in evolutionary biology, you fucking faggots. There's a primal instinct present in most women which leads them to seek out violent, aggressive, criminal, etc types (these types are the best partners in a primitive tribal society, because they provide the best protection). In a (((modern))) society, niggers are more likely to be those types. This is also why serial killers, mass murderers receive so much attention from women. This is a basic red pill that has been described by many evolutionary biologists, including Kevin MacDonald, Ed Dutton, ad many other racialists. To acknowledge these concepts, does not mean you are "complementing" niggers, a it is merely one reason more to remove them from your society and preferably the planet Read a little bit before shitting up the board with emotional, infantile insults.
>>8723 >I think this is a right-wing bodybuilder twitter meme It's possible, I just found it on YouTube. >>8724 >Also we aren't right-wingers, don't know how many times this has to be said. I never claimed that. I used the word "right-winger" because some of the people posting these memes are Fascists, some are Jared Taylor-tier WN's and some are regular conservatives or just apolitical.
>>8690 This Alpha, Sigma, Beta shit is like horoscopes for men. Really it's as simple as weak men and strong men.
>>8705 >>8733 >muh horoscopes The difference is that horoscopes have no bases whatsoever and that the Alpha-Beta dynamics are deeply rooted in evolutionary biology. The people who make the horoscope comparison are generally reddit-tier normalfags and mainstream journalists, who don't like the idea of "putting people in boxes".
>>8734 As I said Weak Men vs. Strong Men You need to create 50 billion subtypes out of it (Alpha, Beta, Omega, Gamma, Zeta, Epsilon etc.)
>>8736 There are various degrees of weak and strong, so the Omega, Gamma, etc. makes sense. There are also various ranks in a tribe and in society as a whole, so, again, it makes sense. The Sigma is a man who dominates with his intelligence, rather physical strength. It's an interesting phenomenon and may also be rooted in biology.
>>8690 This sigma shit always make me laugh. The sigma is basically an autistic, nihilistic, individualist retard. That corresponds to at least 40% of the "men" in the manosphere so they try to frame it in a positive fashion when in reality they're just antisocial degenerates.
>>8737 There are men who are tall and handsome and have money and connections so they can afford to be confident and commanding. These are the alpha. Then there are men who are none of those things and every time they tried to assert themselves they got slapped down like a bitch. These are the betas. The manosphere autist quickly realizes he's clearly not an alpha and that must mean... nooooooo he can't be a beta, he's... he's a sigma, he's the brooding type, he hangs around in the corner with his trenchcoat and just don't give a shit maaaaan. His pronouns are xe, xir. It's such an obvious beta cope. Cut that shit, faggot..
>>8741 >There are men who are tall and handsome and have money and connections so they can afford to be confident and commanding. These are the alpha. The traditional alpha male, is just physically strong. The "jock" type. They will usually get the most women, especially at a young age. The types who are slightly less strong, but more intelligent, will make more money and have higher status at a later stage in life, and will than get more women. What you described is literally the concept of the sigma male. >The manosphere autist quickly realizes he's clearly not an alpha and that must mean... nooooooo he can't be a beta, he's... he's a sigma, he's the brooding type, he hangs around in the corner with his trenchcoat and just don't give a shit maaaaan Yes, that's the funny part of, and it was already described i the OP
>>8729 >Everything I said is rooted in evolutionary biology, you fucking faggots. No you it isn't. Everything you said is nothing, but a bunch of cringe fantasy larps. There is no such thing as a sigma male and it can't exist. You have no grounds to claim that this evolutionary biology. Stop coming here to shill your ancap nonsense.
>>8729 >There's a primal instinct present in most women which leads them to seek out violent, aggressive, criminal, etc types You're actually retarded and proven that you have no idea what you're talking about. Women do not instinctively seek only aggressive males, they want strong, wise, and responsible men who can keep them safe and act as a patriarch. Niggers aren't in the slightest atrractive nor would they trigger female's instinct because of their ape shit violence. I don't see how any proper femoid are going to want the type of guys who hate being a responsible father. The fact that you care so much what wahmen want and baseing them how you should act is an actual blue-pill, because women are too ignorant to have proper desires and often they cannot comprehend their instinct. This isn't a redpill, it's just delusional shill. >muh thread Your thread sucks and so do you niggerlovingfaggot.
>>8690 Please, go back.
>>8733 Another good example of this is MBTI kek
>>8710 It's an analogy to a wolf pack. A useful lense to look at things and gain insight but it has limits since it's not a 1:1 correspondence with reality.
>>8769 >it has limits since it's not a 1:1 correspondence with reality. I don't think there could ever be a such thing as lone wolf or "sigma male", so I don't know why this thread was made in the first place. Ideas like this are on par with ancap cringe.
>>8773 True. And there are already other words like outsider, rebel, non-comformist. So this is just a new identity label for how people can feel they fit into society. It may even be marketed too like they did with "youth culture" and punk, emo, metal, wigger, etc.
>>8769 >analogy see >>8729 >It's not an analogy. Humans are ultimately animals, and the instincts that are present in primates are also present in humans. It's deeply rooted in our biology. I'll go full autist for a second. Here's the definition of an analogy: https://www.wordnik.com/words/analogy >A similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar The behavior of humans is rooted in our biology and goes back to the time of cavemen. The same behavior that was present in primitive humans, can in the present be observed in primates. Examples of analogies: https://examples.yourdictionary.com/analogy-ex.html >Life is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get >Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process
>>8785 Saying humans are like wolves with alphas and betas is an analogy. But whatever, it doesn't matter.
>>8803 >Saying humans are like wolves with alphas and betas is an analogy. It's not just wolves. It's apes, monkeys, dogs, etc. These creatures posses the same instincts, hormones, dna, etc. that humans do, and are thus not "dissimilar". The (((media))) calls it an "analogy" because they deny the animal origins of mankind. They essentially deny evolution theory. They do the same when it comes to race with phrases like "race is only skin-deep".
>>8833 It's not even really an accurate analogy. My Irish mate comes from an upper middle-class background, and had management jobs handed to him on the basis that he had a great education; he developed a domineering personality as a result, but then he fell off the wagon, got into drugs and lost his job. Because his previous confidence was grounded in official authority, which he now lacks, he finds himself unable to lead his current social group; we humour him, but he's certainly not the boss of anybody. Anyway, wolves don't operate like that; nor do most mammals. They travel in family units of siblings and offspring, and this meme is based off old and now specious research that was overwritten by the guy who wrote it.
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Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. - Oskar Dirlewanger #Grindset
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Borrow money Never pay it back #MillionaireGrindset
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Kill children using bayonets in order to save ammunition #GorillionaireGrindset
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>>8842 >>8846 Kek breddy gud
>>8833 >These creatures posses the same instincts, hormones, dna, etc. that humans d You're an idiot.... We don't have the same instincts as these creatures nor do we rely on them. So it is indeed disimilar, stop with this cringe shill and fuck off back twitter. >The (((media))) calls it an "analogy" because they deny the animal origins of mankind. This is a retarded lie. The media never denied that we come from animals, they affirm this with Charles Darwin's Evolution Theory. They defend niggers and believe that their ape shit mindset is a positive trait of their cultures. Acting like a nigger is not le alpha male for it's retarded and leads to the type of dumbass males we have today who live in mudhuts and destroy environments that they can't be sufficient within. Listen (((ancap))), it's time to hit the road and stop shilling your anarcho bullshit here.
>>8842 Commit terrorism in order to save money on food and housing #MillionaireGrindset
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Make new slaves instead of buying them #MillionaireGrindset
>>8860 Break bucks in order to save money on prostitutes #Grindset
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Throw communists into the sea in order to save money on caskets #MillionaireGrindset
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Don't kill Jews Sell them to the Nazis instead #MillionaireGrindset
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Become anti-semitic #SixGorrillionaireGrindset
Based. This thread has just become based >>8864 >>8863 >>8862 >>8861 >>8860 >>8859 >>8853
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Commit terrorism to become the hottest new content creator #MillionaireGrindset
>>8864 Very nice. You could probably post this on YouTube if you pretend it's irony.
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to make your products more appealing, sell them along with a free book #MillionaireGrindset
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Get your whole country out of debt #6milliongrindset
What is the music used in the meme videos for this?
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>>8917 Origin Peaky Blinders >Drive Forever (slowed) - Sergio Valentino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUFpYr3PEVw The version used in the memes is a Russian remix >Polozhenie - Skriptonit [Instrumental + slowed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amv1TFlZQYc
>>8928 I appreciate it. I’ll have to see if I can make anything good tomorrow
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Behead other races to assert dominance #RussionaireGrindset
Listen to the torture of your opponents to boost your testosterone #UpYourGrindset
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If anyone can think of a funnier line for the end part, let me know and I can edit it in if it's good enough
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>>8972 <If betas won't subscribe to PewDiePie, force them to.
>>9046 With a little bit of tweaking of the footage, that would be kino. I'll get back with this
Okay, PewDiePie version complete. I like this a lot better. I added a few tweaks with the footage before the end too. Thanks for the suggestion, anon.
>>9049 <beta woman screaming for help >Sigma Male shoots woman Never Help Other People #SigmaMaleGrindset
>>8864 #SiegHeilMaleGrindset
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Never let her age stop your grind #SextillionareFacts #SigmaMale
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>>9049 Here's one i made before you, Anon #SigmaMaleGrindset
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>>9172 Kek'd and saved
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>>8716 You're right, some studies i've read posit(unbeknownst to the writers) that niggers are more violent due to higher levels of estrogen, not Testosterone. Estrogen promites volatility and loss of emotional control, Testosterone does the opposite, Estrogen is also linked in men to higher sexual desire, explaining niggers uncontrollable breeding when combined with testosterone even in middling amounts. Niggers are not alpha in the slightest. >>8723 No it has it's origins in the Manosphere, it's MGTOW shit, made up by some pathetic shit heel, it can be funny but it has no basis in reality.
Is this the /fascist/ humor thread?
>>9361 >niggers are more violent due to higher levels of estrogen, A man who has higher testosterone levels, will also have higher estrogen levels. The body balances these two against each other. That's why when a man takes steroids, his body will start producing more estrogen, and once they stop taking steroids, they are often screwed over completely (some even end up becoming trannies). >Estrogen is also linked in men to higher sexual desire Like I said above, a man who has higher levels of testosterone, will also have higher levels of estrogen. What is more important is the balance between testosterone and estrogen and the balance between testosterone and cortisol. Generally speaking, when a man's testosterone level drops, he will have a lower sex-drive and vice versa. Niggers dominate sports that require pure (explosive) strength (I.E. testosterone) like boxing, basketball, sprinting,etc While Whites dominate sports that require technique, intelligence and stamina like cycling, MMA, racing, etc. (also things like snooker, darts, etc.) >Niggers are not alpha in the slightest. The average nigger has fucked more women (and has more children) than the average White man. That makes him in pure biological terms "more alpha". A Gorilla or a bull also has higher levels of testosterone than a White man though, that doesn't mean they aren't inferior.
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>>9399 >The average nigger has fucked more women (and has more children) than the average White man Barely more. Niggers are literally just at the threshold of being able to replace themselves generation after generation. By world standards this is a quite pathetic fertility rate, the bare minimum needed.
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>>9399 >Niggers dominate sports that require pure (explosive) strength (I.E. testosterone) like boxing, basketball, sprinting,etc There are some genes that can give advantages for explosive output (power) or some subspecies of Africans have genetic advantages in long distance running, but Africans don't really have advantage in explosive strength overall. A lot of the trend you are describing is just part of the apparatus for selecting country's athletes or university athletics programs. Outside of the talented tenth, the vast majority of niggers often don't much to offer except for athletic capability, so they can be readily recruited for sports. For example olympic weightlifting is not dominated by blacks, and that is about the most purely power-selected sport there is. You are mostly right about the steroid stuff though with T/estrogen balance though.
>>9400 A) Your pic only has American data. African niggers, for instance, breed far more. B) American niggers still fuck more women than Whites do, it just doesn't result in children because of contraception, abortion, etc.
>>9406 If you just search around a bit, you'll see that nearly every article (from any ideological faction) on the subject says that niggers have higher testosterone levels. >olympic weightlifting There's a lot of different factors to this. For one, technique is extremely important. Then there's things like bone-structure, body shape, etc. and also whether the sport is popular in black countries/regions. >A lot of the trend you are describing is just part of the apparatus for selecting country's athletes or university athletics programs I highly disagree with this. Niggers are just naturally more animal-like than other races, and are therefore better at sports. Your theory seems to be kind of a WN cope tbh. Niggers are low IQ animals, but credit where credit's due, they are good at sports.
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>>9408 Why would slightly higher baseline T levels matter in professional sports where they are all blasting and cruising anyways? That makes no sense. And it's not a "WN cope" just because my informed take on things is different than you, "fellow White". You even use a similar rationale about whether the sport is popular among the demographic determining the representation among professional sports. It's also worth pointing out that boxing and MMA is not particularly dominate by blacks, either. I don't particularly care of niggers have advantages in certain sports. But you're way, way overstating things and you even sound a bit like an outsider stretching the truth and almost fetishizing them.
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>>9408 >Niggers are just naturally more animal-like than other races, and are therefore better at sports. >Niggers are low IQ animals, but credit where credit's due, they are good at sports.
>niggers shoot ball good Who the fuck cares about this? What does this have to do with /fascist/ anyway?
>>9421 >Why would slightly higher baseline T levels matter in professional sports where they are all blasting and cruising anyways? It is one of the most important things in most sports. Nearly every type of "performance enhancing substance" is some form of testosterone. >It's also worth pointing out that boxing and MMA is not particularly dominate by blacks I said boxing is dominated by blacks (disproportionate representation due to higher T and being primitive) , MMA is not (due to the technique it requires). >But you're way, way overstating things and you even sound a bit like an outsider stretching the truth and almost fetishizing them. No, it's about truth. There's a strong tendency among racialists to deny the "silver lining" that niggers have (being good at sports) out of some form of pride. But it's is much better to accept this reality, and simply use it as proof of their general inferiority. When a normalfag says niggers are stronger/more athletic than us, one should simply answer "well, gorillas are also stronger than us, that doesn't mean they're our equals. >>9436 >What does this have to do with /fascist/ anyway? We're discussing racial differences, so everything.
>>9421 >Why would slightly higher baseline T levels matter in professional sports where they are all blasting and cruising anyways? It's not "slightly". There's a substantial difference. From a quick search: https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/09/06/black-women-and-testosterone/ >Black males have 2.5 to 4.9 times higher testosterone than White males https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/racial-differences-in-testosterone-black-men-have-highest >Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in Whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. (probably doesn't take gender into the equation)
>>9399 Everything you said sounds like you're just making excuses to put niggers on some level above White Aryan Men, They're inability to restrain themselves at all makes them not Alpha, in any way shape or form, an Alpha is a Leader not the most prolific breeder, very few if any niggers could be called "Alpha", the sports they're good at are generally those that have to do with sprinting, something their natural habitat syited them well for.
>>9440 >Nearly every type of "performance enhancing substance" is some form of testosterone. Right but if you are blasting and cruising on steroids you will have supraphysiological T levels anyways to the point where it shuts down your natural production.
>>9441 >Black males have 2.5 to 4.9 times higher testosterone than White males So you are just outright lying now, and changing a percentage to a multiplier? It's 2.5-4.9 PERCENT higher not times higher according to the meta-analysis from your source. >After adjustment for age, black men have a modestly but significantly 2.5 to 4.9% higher free testosterone level than White men. >>9440 >MMA is not (due to the technique it requires) But powerlifting is "dominated" by White people and it's not a predominantly technique-oriented sport. You're all over the place and lazily over-extrapolating. Like I said I'm not afraid to call things as they are, but you are over-correcting and almost simping for niggers at this point.
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>>9441 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2519/2598282 >"Conclusions: Contrary to the postulated racial difference, testosterone concentrations did not differ between black and White men. >However, black males have a significantly higher amount of hormonal estrogen (estradiol) than Whites with Blacks having an over 14% increase of estrogen compared to White men. >Given these findings, it may be more important to investigate estradiol instead of testosterone in relation to diseases with racial disparity.
>>9408 >Your theory seems to be kind of a WN cope tbh. Where are you retards coming from?
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Does anyone remember the site that debunked Stefan Molyneux on why niggers aren't better at sports?
>>9466 16chan is increasingly being discovered by 4cuck faggots
>>9473 Look at this shill here >>9463, the jews are work trying to subvert this board.
>>9474 Should they be deleted or should they be left to be refuted? They are not overwhelming us, but the shills are definitely on an uptick lately. It's probably the NazBol nigger
>>9476 >Should they be deleted or should they be left to be refuted? My vote is to leave them to be refuted. I see nothing wrong with letting idiots discredit themselves.
Proof that shills are spreading word of 16chan on 4/pol/: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/16chan/ >>9479 In most cases this works, assuming that they don't devolve into spamming meme buzzwords or soy faces. Luckily what we have seen hasn't been quite that bad.
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Someone should take all of these memes ITT and convert them to generic images like pics related, so they can be spread more easily. I would do it myself, but don't have much time atm and I'm not very good at shooping. Although I imagine there's probably some websites that let you make these very easily. If someone decides to do it, it might be best to post the pics in the OC thread, so as to not flood this thread. I am willing to help if anons are interested, and will definitively make more memes. I Am talking about memes like these of course >>8842 >>8846 >>8841 >>8859 >>8860 >>8863 >>8694
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>>9514 Based
>>9399 >A man who has higher testosterone levels, will also have higher estrogen levels. The body balances these two against each other. That's why when a man takes steroids, his body will start producing more estrogen, and once they stop taking steroids, they are often screwed over completely (some even end up becoming trannies) This is not how it works you retard. The male body can handle having way more testerone than estrogen. There is no need for "balance" it out, because the male body only needs enough of it to reproduce and function. You're just throwing medical works out of the window for your cuckold logic. What type of person lies about nigger dominance and claims he doesn't have a fetish for them? >Niggers dominate sports that require pure (explosive) strength (I.E. testosterone) like boxing, basketball, sprinting,etc While Whites dominate sports that require technique, intelligence and stamina like cycling, MMA, racing, etc. (also things like snooker, darts, etc.) None of these sports are dominated by testerones and everything you're referring to are mainstream sports. Basketball Americans dominate the sport, because they are exlusively handpicked. It has nothing to do with them being better. Zog purposely only promote and hire niggers for political agendas. Same reason why niggers are more prone to be caught cheating, because drug testing is a joke in sports. Congrats you're outing yourself as a kike or shitskin by stating jewish mythism.
>>9529 Not defending him, but when that anon said balance I don't think he meant 1:1 equality. But AFAIK a higher testosterone level will increase your estrogen level as well. But it's not something can you can oversimplify with bro-science and say that if you have higher estrogen you are a bitch or something because it's more about proportions. The endocrine system is extremely complicated, and reductionist observations will devolve into bro-science, at best. Don't take this as me arguing against you at all, just saying that the biology behind hormones is a complex system and should be respected as such. I've just noticed that people have a tendency to overly anthroporphize individual hormones.
>>8690 >What is a Sigma Male? Reddit bullshit for the edgy kid to feel good. Originally there used to be only Alpha/Beta, because it described two important qualities of men desired by women. The Alpha is the physically strong, independent and charismatic type of man, while the Beta is the resourceful provider type of man. Both of these can be negative and positive depending on the individual. Pre Sexual Revolution men were actually taught to be good in both roles, you can see that in almost any movie from the 1940s. Then came the Sexual Revolution, Feminism and all the other crap and young men under the guise of Equality were taught to be weak effeminate faggots that can only play the Provider role. Meanwhile thanks to Western Democracies becoming surrogate fathers to women the role of the Provider became useless. This is why we think today negative of the Provider/Beta, while all the Pick Up Artists try to be Alpha men. The other types of men(Gamma, Omega, Delta, Sigma) are nothing more but inventions by Redditors who like to pretend they are players in this whole Manosphere culture, but in truth they are not doing anything to become better men. You can see that by the fact that they are all self description and not something that would you actually get women. Gamma, Omega, Delta and Sigma see less pussy than the Beta Provider.
>>9514 Not bad, but it could use some work. There's something off about it. Maybe it's the font or the spacing or something. also Moar!
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Though I did think the memes were really funny, I thought this was a meme that got popular by taking the shit out of anti-social autistic dudes? Is it rebounding in a post-ironic nature? Anyways, I thought that sort of alpha/beta male hierarchy was all bullshit to begin with. Everyone can be an Alpha/Beta in their own sub-social group, thus it's pointless to argue.
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>>9901 The way I see these memes ITT is that they are ironic, but they're also not. Obviously they're wording things in a humorous way but most of it is meant to be a sort of nod and a wink towards people who are already redpilled, as well as a vehicle to get the non-redpilled to laugh and maybe look into things more. So yes, basically postirony.
>>9901 This meme is dumb, and I think it was made by an altrighter who goes by the name "borzoi" and all I know about him is that he's friends with Eric Striker and (((Mike Enoch))). What this image gets wrong is that MGTOW and incels either want to get away from women or just hate them. They're both too proud being male to want to pretend in being the very thing they complain about 24/7. Traps on the other hand are probably something that they may or may not enjoy, but I would argue that the ones who jerk off to them or crossdress were already gay or groomed from social media due to their struggle with isolation and lonliness, not because they avoid or hate females. Trannydom is the result of dysgenic autists who hate their parents and everything orderly being told that their lives would matter more and change for the better if they waved around the pedo flag and get upset that you do not mention the pronouns they've made up for themselves. They do face some similar issuss with incels, but trying to correlate two different mindsets and concluding that they all end up transforming into one cancer, makes no sense. If you get an asocial autist from the left you get trannies, if they're right-wing leaning then you get /r9k/. The problem here is that incels only know how to devolve into morons who do nothing, but embarass themselves like the transexuals do, instead of treating themselves better and learning to be more socialable and dependable to solve their no GF problem. Misogyny doesn't turn men gay, grooming and molesting children does.
>>9919 In a strict sense the meme is inaccurate but it has grains of truth in it. For certain socially-isolated and lonely individuals anime can of course take a very large role in their lives. They love the escapism, and they become attractive to the hyper-feminine and idealized characters of anime. Some claim to like the women of anime more than real women (semi-tongue in cheek), especially since there are so many shitty 3D women today. Feeling rejected by women in real life too can lead to hostility and sour-grapes, but this is of course *not* the sole cause of criticism of women, needless to say. Combined with all of this comes crippling porn addiction to weirder and weirder genres. They get into traps, mostly likely through 4chan threads or anime or hentai. Indulging in traps leads to a growing lust for cock and men, even if they’re feminized. This will seem more exciting than the ‘normal’ porn they’re bored of by that time. Most trap / sissy porn is actually made with the trap not being an object of lust but encourages the viewer to imagine themselves as the trap / sissy. This is where the hypno genre comes in, which encourages this behavior and makes the addict an even bigger homosexual even if they were originally never interested in men of any kind before. Many of the people who go down this rabbithole start crossdressing and wanting to be a tranny. Some of them will go through with it, especially if they have now been conditioned to see themselves as failed males and associated femininity with being desirable when they see themselves as undesirable males. I don’t think this is a solely left or right phenomena, but it’s really a mental illness phenomenon that is unfortunately being created through a complex mix of factors in our society today. I think this can happen without any overt grooming or molestation. I use to browse /r9k/ pretty heavily back before all of this pinkpill shilling and Discord cults and there was already then even a sort of undercurrent of many of these factors I described in this post.
>>9921 >In a strict sense the meme is inaccurate but it has grains of truth in it. It also contains lies. Today everything that holds women accountable or calls out their shit is called misogyny. That word is utterly meaningless, disagree with a feminist and you are a misogynist in the same way an antifa calls everyone a fascist who opposes them. On top of that most MGTOWs are older dudes in their 40s, who got taken to the cleaner by the divorce courts, meanwhile most INCELs are teenagers and dudes in their 20s who can't get laid. They both have in common that they are bluepilled cucks who have fallen for the Equality meme, think women are just like men and then are frustrated that women don't act like men.
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>>9924 You’re definitely accurate in what you’re saying here
>>9924 > Today everything that holds women accountable or calls out their shit is called misogyny. That word is utterly meaningless, disagree with a feminist and you are a misogynist in the same way an antifa calls everyone a fascist who opposes them. What you say is very true, feminism is a corruption of women who attack men for merely breathing and following their instinct to breed and rule. Tell a feminist that she is better off as a housewife and she will cry misogyny, tell her that she should work a hardworking factory job that she can't keep up with and she will lie to herself that she is on the brink to happiness and that her "independence" is important.
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>>9924 Blame the pathetic groveling gynocentric simps with no self respect who constantly devalue themselves in front of women and by proxy all men in general. I was talking with dude once in real life for a bit who had some real, White values, until he got told off by his gf, verbatim that "he just couldn't have that opinion", guy shut up and tamed right up like a good doggy. Obviously we don't talk anymore lol.
>>9976 >he just couldn't have that opinion I think I would punch a girl in the jaw if she tried to say that shit to me.
>>9980 Meant for >>9977
>>9977 >I was talking with dude once in real life for a bit who had some real, White values, until he got told off by his gf, verbatim that "he just couldn't have that opinion", guy shut up and tamed right up like a good doggy. Never can understand absolute cucks who do this shit. Women are absurdly overvalued, it’s disgusting. If some cunt tried to do this with me I’d leave her and find another girl who would do all of the same stuff but wouldn’t try to police my beliefs. And the funny part is that such a girl wouldn’t even be hard to find. Women are absurdly overvalued but there are literally billions of them. Nothing of value would be lost.
>>9974 This one was great made me kek keep them coming pls
>>9977 This is actually very common these days. Guys who usually are like "nigger this, nigger, that" all of a sudden go full "colored person" when their gf's are around. >>9974 What panel was he testifying for, and in what context? It seems like the journalist dropped an accidental red pill.
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>>9974 beta: hates riding the bus sigma: rides the hate bus #RockwellionaireGrindset
>>10009 >Guys who usually are like "nigger this, nigger, that" all of a sudden go full "colored person" when their gf's are around. You are afraid of your GF, then you're a faggot and a coward (not referring to you anon). Stop listening to women and allowing them to control your life, this is why they stab so many men in the back.
>>10012 >"colored person" I thought it was "person of color"? Anyway, your point still stands. Women need to be lead by strong men, not the other way around.
>>10017 Yeah, 'colored person' is judged to be offensive now but if you switch around the words it becomes PC, I guess.
>>10017 You responded to the wrong person, but it is indeed "person of color" or "black people".
>>10017 I purposely said "colored person" because most of those guys I was talking about aren't cucked enough to go all the way to "person of color". I meant that they were racists who got scared when their gf is around, so they always tone it down, with a submissive look on their face.
>>9396 not officially
>>10023 >I meant that they were racists who got scared when their gf is around, Do you think they act like this because they're afraid of being denied sex, or is it more of a social status thing?
>>10055 Maybe a bit of both, but they probably just don't want their girlfriend to break up with them.
>>10055 >Do you think they act like this because they're afraid of being denied sex, or is it more of a social status thing? Like this anon >>10056 said, they know their gf can breakup with them whenever they want, so they are bitch-made and obey their gf.
>>10068 >so they are bitch-made and obey their gf. How do I keep this from happening to me? Aside from the obvious not doing what she says.
>>10090 >How do I keep this from happening to me? By not putting pussy on a pedestal. In this situation, you need to think about whether you are going to side with truth, or if you are going to be stripped of your dignity and be a good goy so the woman does not deny you access to her holes. Women are interchangeable and are not worth losing your dignity over. Realize this, and all problems will be solved in advance.
>>10092 Is it worth putting on a good goy facade not to be a social outcast, then gradually abandoning that facade over time? It seems the important thing is that you're leading women in the right direction instead of letting women lead you.
>>10093 It depends what you mean by 'good goy' here. For me at least, I will never stoop to the level where I have to go around propagating and assenting to what I know is false and destructive to White people. If getting a girlfriend means that I have to do that, I personally would go without one. It wouldn't be worth it. I guess I just care about the truth more than pussy. What one can do though is modulate their power-level according to the situation and people you're talking to. It's all about not being a sperg and scaring away bluepillers who aren't ready for the full truth. This is why most of the time I probably give off a vibe of being a cynical conservative with some radical ideas. Don't present a fake persona to a woman (or anyone you befriend really), but you also don't have to be a retard and reveal your true power-level recklessly. I never advocate for turning it off completely though, that is what Cuckchan does.
>>10095 >It depends what you mean by 'good goy' here. I mean making myself presentable to normies and avoiding revealing my real opinions when they would get me in trouble or make me a social outcast. To do that, sometimes I have to say things I don't actually believe. I try to be internally consistent with the fake opinions I present, that's what I mean by a facade. >>10092 >Women are interchangeable and are not worth losing your dignity over. I know this intellectually, but I still feel jealous and resentful seeing girls I dated in high school with other men.
>>10093 Once you are fucking a woman you can believe what ever you want and she will agree
>>10090 It's inevitably going to happen to a certain extend. You just have to suppress it as much as possible. Basically don't talk about politics with women. Also what >>10095 said. I was mostly talking about normalfags who use banter with each other calling each other "faggot", referring to blacks as niggers, etc. But when their gf's are around it's "n- ... black person". It's just really sad. It should also be stated that having a "trad-wife" is virtually impossible these days. You can look up the statistics. It basically comes down to the following: The average man who gets married these days, has a 50% chance of getting a divorce, EVERY YEAR. So basically every January the first you flip a coin, heads you're staying together, tails you're getting divorced. We are at a point where either we fight and change the system, or it's gg. There's no "retreating to the countryside and getting married option anymore", as WN's have been doing for decades.
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>>10138 >average man who gets married these days, has a 50% chance of getting a divorce, EVERY YEAR You may want to double check your source on that one. According to what you are saying, you are looking at a near 0% chance of remaining married after the 7th year. Year - chance of remaining married 1 - 50% 2 - 25% 3 - 12.5% 4 - 6.25% 5 - 3.125% 6 - 01.5625% 7 - 00.78125%
>>10143 I read it a while ago. The statistic most likely takes into account that the rates of divorce have gone up in the past years and will continue to do so, and has adjusted the numbers accordingly. So in short, your calculation is probably correct. People who get married nowadays won't last 7 years.
>>10147 >People who get married nowadays won't last 7 years. You're making it sound like it would be better just not to get married at all. Not sure what to do without "retreating to the countryside".
>>10138 >It should also be stated that having a "trad-wife" is virtually impossible these days. This is wrong, it's impossible to find a good wife in mostly liberal rural and urban towns and cities.
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>>10148 >Not sure what to do without "retreating to the countryside".
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>>10147 Well it sounds like the statistic you are recalling is flat-out incorrect, so either the source was wrong, or you are recalling it incorrectly. No need to fearmonger and imply that 1% of marriages will last to the 6th year when it's almost surely incorrect. The real statistics are bad enough as is. But I'm just nitpicking anyways, so no big deal.
>>10158 St. Tarrant is a great man but his word should not be treated as gospel. Moving to the countryside is a great idea. Build a large family, know your neighbors, strengthen local communities. Let the pig system will eat itself instead of consuming you.
>>10158 The cities are already lost. There is nothing of value there either. They are ugly, dirty, and filled with materialistic brown humanoids. Not worth living in.
>>10168 That's the point of purging such places, anon. This is what Tarrant did, and he proved it works: having eliminated most breadwinners of that community, the muslims in Christchurch have been failing financially and are emotionally scarred for good. Look it up, they released media pieces about it. Those mudskins are barely kept afloat by ZOG's handouts and propped in propaganda where the ugly PM or prince Charles go there and shake hands with the mudskins in front of cameras to show "community is resilient and strong". This proves that physically destroying your enemy is the only effective way to achieve an actual advantage. This is why jews are genociding us.
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>>10190 Purging, yes, but not for living in.
>>10164 I don't know about you, but if I look around in my friend and family circles, literally everyone in their thirties is divorced. Like I said, I read that statistic a while ago. Maybe I'll look it up again later and post it here. It's worth dedicating a thread to imo. >>10167 It's weak and uninspiring. It is the kind of thing a 40 year old man does after having had a good career, and is now looking for a place to settle down and raise children. Not something that an 18 year old should aspire to. In Traditional cultures young men don't think about children, only young women. Men aspire to be great warriors, leaders, scholars, etc. Children is something that happens automatically at a certain age. Also, and this is even more important, in the USA, there has been an ongoing brain-drain on the countryside. High IQ people have been able to earn substantial higher salaries in the cities, and that's where they have been going to for decades. The result is that the only people who remained in the countryside are low IQ. So in short, when you move to the countryside you're not going to find traditional community orientated Aryan farmers, but instead will find a bunch of obese Qanon supporting Zionists who think that the democrats are the real racists, homophobes, etc. (in general, of course).
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Would it be better just not to get married at all?
>>10200 Perhaps. You shouldn't ever get legally married to begin with. It's okay to find a woman and have children, but you should never marry before the state. The chances of staying together are extremely slim though.
>>10200 Have kids just don't get legally married
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>>10202 In a sane world Bell Delphine would get an acid attack so she can no longer live like a parasite whore
>>10200 I'd say what >>10201 and >>10202 said. It doesn't matter if your marriage isn't recognized / confirmed by the government. That's not what marriage is. If a man and a woman come together to have a family, they are married, period. Anyone saying that you need bullshit like rings, official marriage documents or any of that has been duped.
>>9514 moar
>>10203 do you have more ryona?
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>>9513 >>9514 It might be easier to use the format of pics related. It also looks better imo.
>>10203 violence against women is degenerate and dishonorable in most contexts. women are key to the survival of our race and species. as for Belle Delphine, why blame her for being a clever manipulator? it makes more sense to blame all the beta orbiters for opening their wallets for a dickteaser who will never acknowledge them.
>>10848 >t. simp Women have the mind of a stupid child, they prove that everyday with their actions, and the only way to make a stupid child behave sometimes is to give it a good slapping because they can't understand arguments or reason. What do you do with a irrational animal? The downfall of the west is a good case study of what happens when women are not disciplined.
>>10850 >t. incel The fact that no woman has ever offered herself to you, proves that they clearly have the ability to reason.
>>10850 there are distinctions here. some women are like stupid children, and like children, they need to be disciplined. however, this must be done proportionately and for good reason. there's a major difference between proper discipline, vs pointless violence and abuse, using physically weaker people as targets for your uncontrolled anger and malice. the latter is dishonorable and degenerate, as I said. I also said MOST contexts, there are often exceptions to rules. speaking of context, the post I was responding to advocated for excessive violence against an e-whore, not considering the online ecosystem that supports such things. it also referenced 'ryona', which seems to be a degenerate abuse fantasy.
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>>10843 https://easypeasymethod.org/ >>10846 I'm not sure, those are often associated with more serious and lengthy quotes from literature. The sigma male memes are very terse, and are sort of modeled off of shitty self-improvement / 'inspirational' images that one can find on Twitter, Instagram, etc. >>10848 Bell Delphine has fed on the loneliness and lusts of hundreds of thousands of young men who have given her inordinate amounts of money and attention. Women like this deserve no coddling at all. All they have to do is wiggle their butt on camera, make silly ahegao faces and giggle a few times, and legions of men come to serve her and worship her. Not to mention this but she's literally done porn at this point from what I understand. Such behavior is disgusting. The men are pathetic, but whores like this know exactly what they are doing and should suffer accordingly. >>10852 > I also said MOST contexts, there are often exceptions to rules. And e-whores are the exception. They are scum.
>>10851 You prove your inability to reason with your very post, thot. All you can think about is your fuckhole. A good slap in the face would teach you to remain silent when your betters are speaking.
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>>10851 >>10858 Reminder
>>10850 An overwhelming amount of the people who are classified as "adults" in this era and since the 60's are just snotty little selfish children in a overgrown body. Those past retard generation's irresponsibility along with the jews' being the center cause is the reason why we are in such deep shit. >>10851 Woman moment! >>10848 Both sides take blame but the fact that many women now think belle delphine and online prostitution is acceptable behavior is incredible when at the same time have their own retarded but completely organic on the rag arguments over lads just sending them cock pics and how it's alledegly so "terrible" not to forget classics like.... manspreading(lol) and more. It really reveals their collective intelligence when that's the important questions they ask. Also I have a big problem they're actively manipulating edging on semi-retarded beta males, and literal children, who are clueless and don't know any better to give them money. On platforms owned by literal jews.
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>>10851 >The fact that no woman has ever offered herself to you, proves that they clearly have the ability to reason. WomanKind will be rendered obsolete when the kikes finally discover a way to create artificial wombs. Enjoy what little privileges you have, because it won't last.
>>16768 >Leaving a vital survival mechanism to a tribe of deranged demon worshipping cultists. I'm not exactly defending women, but you are out of your fucking mind if you think that will be of any good to us.
>>16768 Stirring up conflict between men and women is a key part of the Jewish scheme to destroy societies. It is, after all, the most fundamental and natural division of labor there is. Artificial wombs are just one step further into turning human beings into manufactured products and slaves. This is the same reason transgenderism and transhumanism exist. It's to destroy humanity and everything natural.

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