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Intel Vs. AMD Anonymous 12/25/2019 (Wed) 03:05:57 No. 686
Building a new computer soon. I've been out of the market for a decade and much has changed. I've seen a lot of news about AMD overtaking Intel in the desktop processor market, but have never been an AMD fan. I am seriously considering AMD for my next build, but am concerned about processor heat, longevity, and linux compatibility. Intel will also release their new line of processors early next year, and I am tempted to wait for that. AMD has also been gunning for Nvidia, but currently does not have a superior graphics card. There is so much conflicting information online, and so many AMD fanboys it is difficult to find objective information on what to put in a build. I used to turn to YouTube for information, but so many channels appear to be bought and paid for. I am curious to hear what /g/'s consensus is on what to put in a new build. I plan to spend roughly 4k on the desktop and 1.5k on a high-res 200Hz monitor. I plan to use linux for my main OS and Windows for gaming and video editing. Also curious to hear about storage options. I'd like to use 2 or 4 M.2 SSDs for in pairs of RAID0 for the OS and 2 or 4 HDDs for backup. Anyone have a more effective/cost efficient setup? Appreciate your responses.
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Intel is full botnet, AMD is a bit better. See here for a sample, in case you've been living under a rock: https://cpu.fail/
>>687 I am aware. I've been using my current computer since Feb 2008, I need to upgrade. Can't say I trust AMD any more than Intel, but perhaps it is the best option in early 2020.
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Well I use ARM, and that's less botnet than x86, but it's not a good choice for: > Windows for gaming and video editing
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So where did the AMD Navi code go? Anyone got links?
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I'm going to assume this is the general computer build thread I've had a skylake 6700k + 1060 build for years now. I've looked into upgrading it a few times now but it's never seemed like the cost-benefit lined up. Mostly I'm just a low-res frametime autist so I'd be looking to reduce stuttering at 120 / 144 hz. I DGAF about any graphics settings besides draw distance. All my monitors are 1080p so i don't care at all about high-res, just maximum fast and smooth. >botnet use a separate LUKS encrypted drive for normie linux stuff and an entirely separate machine + VPN + tor for shitposting so it's not particularly critical for this machine. got a million other machines I can play tuxcart on already The new ryzen CPUs seem pretty cool but they seem like they're mostly just wider in cores, not all that much faster in single core. I render videos and bulk convert mp3s once in a while but not really that much. I specced out a 8c/16t build but couldn't really justify the new cpu and mini-ITX mobo for the small improvement. So mostly it's the graphics card. I picked up the 1060 6GiB with the intention I might upgrade at some point, but then the buttcoin meme blew up and sent prices to the stratosphere so I sat it out. Anyone know roughly when I can expect CPUs to have 1.5-2x single-thread performance for ~$250 or GPUs to have ~2x performance at the ~$250 level? I remember the old days when that shit happened like clockwork every 2 years....
alright well I just checked newegg and wew lad prices are still fucking retarded. still higher than when I bought in late 2016. what a clusterfuck. guess I'll just sit this out until 5nm happens or something
>>686 I would go AMD for the CPU. Just like with cars, maybe don't buy the very first stepping of a new product (so don't get the ryzen 4000 series yet) but the 3000 series and older should be fine now. They did have some very embarrassing bugs re linux compatibility that marred an otherwise very strong launch. Intlel hasn't been all that great these days (understatement) with all the Speed Holes they've been putting in their products. The only reason I would go Intel on a new build is if the one and only thing you plan to do with your computer is game. Intel still has a thin lead of about 10% in frame rates on some games, but they squeeze this edge out by just running fucking fast and hot. like seriously socket-melting hot, intel TDP means nothing at all these days, check out the meme measurements under synthetic loads. If I was in the market for a 'reasonable' machine I would probably go with an 8c/16t ryzen. If you're going to go balls out I would get one of the memerippers with 16c/32t which should sort of future-proof you for a world that is begrudgingly moving towards multi-threaded software. I wouldn't get an AMD gpu though. it's my understanding that the one good thing is they are a little cheaper for same performance in the lower end but you pay for it with heat and power distribution, not very efficient. Every single year some AMD people say "just wait" and it never gets here as far as I can tell. If you're serious about the $4k price range I'd probably just get a 1080ti. I think the only real improvements to the 2080ti is the snake oil RTX stuff, they upped the transistor count a bunch but GFLOPS basically the same. Or go all out and get the latest Titan or something if you want to go balls to the wall with 24 GiB ram but $2500 is pretty fucking steep if it's not a work expense for CUDA. If I was buying a GPU at a more 'reasonable' price point i'd look at the 2070 Super, 1070Ti, 1070, 1660 Super, etc in roughly descending cost order.
>>806 Thanks for the advice. I ended up getting a fully specced Thinkpad P1 (except chose the IPS 4k display instead of OLED touch) and got the minimum ram and ssd. Ordered my own 32GB Corsair ram and 2x 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus drives from Amazon. M.2 drives are in RAID0. The laptop screams, it was an excellent choice. I put the money for the desktop into bitcoin, hopefully it goes up by black friday. The laptop will make it much easier for me t wait until then. I plan to get a 3970X and a 2080Ti for a screaming deal and I'll basically have a laptop and a desktop for the price I was intending to buy the desktop at earlier this year. I got an incredible deal on the Thinkpad as I got my company discount on top of a huge sale.


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