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General Improvement and Feedback 663 Board owner 09/09/2019 (Mon) 21:15:07 No. 2
This thread is dedicated to improvement and feedback of 16chan, if you have any suggestions regarding these topics post them in this thread.
Can the max file size be increased? I was going to start a thread but the files I want to share are just under 20.00 MB.
>>8
Done, it's now 20.00MB
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We could add a weapons board.
Not nominating myself.
>>22
Duely noted, I'm trying to avoid having too many boards due to the small amounts of traffic.

If more people continue to request a /k/ board I'm open to removing a board that's dead and will likely remain dead like /tv/.
you pay 30 usd a mo.? daym nigga
>>24
For both the cost of the 16chan webserver and the analytics server, yes (this monthly cost also has a monthly split of the domain/SSL certificates/and webmail included).

To be honest, the monthly cost I pay right now for the webserver is most certainly overkill, but I'm sure with time it'll be useful and the site recieves and retains more traffic.
>>25
you're getting raped. RAPED!
you can a vps for 15 eur a year
>>27
Send some services for that price, I'd be interested in seeing them.
>>28
https://www.virtono.com/aff.php?aff=298
the cloud vps, it's good shit and they're lax on their policies compared to other providers i looked at
use this link if you buy it plox OwO
>>29
they also have centos which lynx recommends but i'd personally go with ubuntu 1604 and upate it to 1804
>>29
>>30
Just took a look into Virtono, the hosting packages seem really great, I think after I run out of credit on my current host I'll migrate over. I too am currently running on Ubuntu 18.10, however, I have noticed a few stability problems (be they small at worst), so I might consider moving over to CentOS. I have always been hesitant with moving to CentOS due to a complete lack of knowledge in using it, I have only really used Debian for the past few years, but hell it might be a good opportunity to learn something new and stabilize 16chan even more in the process.
>>31
don't use non lts
Tell me what kind of contents do you faggots remove/ban except for the obvious CP, links to live-(suicide/murder/animal cruelty/rape) and drug dealing posts?
If you ban anything else besides the contents mentioned above, then you do not support free speech.
Ofc I understand what kind of posts goes to which boards rules.
So tell me, do you really support free speech or is it only a buzzword you use to gain users like what cripplefag did?
>>46
No illegal content as laid out in the global rules.

https://www.16chan.xyz/.static/pages/globalRules.html
>>46
>>46
#2 ...............serious threats of violence, and doxxing
explain.
What constitutes serious threats of violence?
Posting a manifesto and confessing the plan of violence?
>and doxxing
why is it against the rules?
even reddit allows doxxing
>>47
sorry, I quoted myself. lol
see >>48
>>48
Direct and serious threats of violence. Doxxing of information that is private, collecting public information and centralizing it is not illegal.
>>50
>Direct and serious threats of violence.
alright, agreed. (btw I agree with rest of the global rules)
>Doxxing of information that is private
gray area there
>collecting public information and centralizing it is not illegal
I cant support this. Collecting public information and centralizing it should be okay. This is exactly what Internet was made for so people can find things easily. This is what google does and how it became successful.
But anyway, at least your concept of chan association sounds good on paper.
I wish you all the best.
>>48
O yes, and no "epic" manifestos
>>52
also I sent you an email just to check :3
>>53
I think I saw it, I replied
>>54
Yeah. <3
>>51
>>50
Have no issue per say with rules, but seems some clarification may be required
I assume we are dealing with US laws, legal language, customs and conventions. But people sometime have broader views. Note I accept Rules are Subject to Change

>Direct and serious threats of violence.
"and" not "and/or"?

>example following is not actual <
"Im going the kill Netahoohoo"
Now while that meets a direct threat, I a leaf with no private jet or army have zero means or probability of "seriously" carrying out an assassination of this level. Not sure but I think I was informed that was protected speech by US law standards
Would that be Protect Speech on your platform.
Yes, No, or Depends on Context?(gray area, requires someone, make judgement call)
>>50
next
>example following is not actual <
"Seriously Gas the fucking Poo's"
While that may be construed as a "serious" threat, it seems to not meet the "direct" level. Protected Speech, under US law? and is it protected speech on this site?
Yes, No, Depends?

Not trying in any way to be argumentative or challenging, honestly mostly curious and invite discussion
Final
Again mostly curious of Board owner's views but I invite others to give their 2 cents worth
Perhaps these questions require more thought and discussion for everyone.
In an age of Mass Surveillance and both government and corporate overreach into our lives, what exactly is "Private"?
examples
1 My Social Security Number, is stolen and posted to "the dark web". Its now available to anyone, is it still private?
2 Some thot takes nudes, sells them but with a NDA attached. Then they are posted somewhere else and available to small group of people, are they still private?
3 What if she takes pic and never shows anyone, but Google scans her phone, and I(a google tech say)find them. I have the only known copies.
Are they still private?
Can i post em?
I give copy to my brother, now 2 people have copies.
Are they still private?
3 people?
4?
5th person says in chat room "I have Honey's nudes, PM me for copy"
Now they are "public"? or only after 100 people PM and receive their copy?
Or not until they are online, on 50 different sites, and have been widely disseminated and been downloaded a million times?
>>58
Owner here, in my perspective, when it comes to everything you just described I would likely moderate it if I received reports regarding the sensitivity of the information. Public leaks don't really warrant moderation in my opinion.

I would directly moderate content that I know for certain is illegal and threatens the integrity of the site and might lead to a alphabet investigation or something along those lines.

Hopefully that answers your question.
>>59
>illegal and threatens the integrity of the site and might lead to a alphabet investigation
I guess that also answers
>>56
>>57
thanks
I hope I'm being clear enough when I say this. I want to moderate as loosely as possible. I'm not interested in censoring anyone. I would not delete a post unless it's extremely clear that there could be a legitimate threat, if it's in a weird gray area I would choose to moderate.

My policy is based on concrete certainty. I do not tolerate anything relating to pornographic content of real people under the age of 18 and advertising of competing chans.

As it stands I only really have had to delete blatant advertising and spam, and it'll hopefully stay like that for the most part. If you have a question relating to a specific scenario I'll be happy to answer it to the best of my ability. Also if you want a private answer you can email me or send me a DM on gab.
>>62
thank you, you have made your self perfectly clear.
>>90
I believe our sorting options with fine under Catalog you just need to check off the update box.

I can however more features.
>>92
I mean to have the options to sort catalog by
Reply Count
Creation Date
Last Reply
Bump Order
>>93
Got it, I'll put that on the feature list, thanks for the feedback.
>>94
Cheers, like I said not high priority atm but nice feature for larger boards
Apologies for hijacking a thread just a humor thread and once I started I couldnt stop(saved ops webms for him)
>Anyways think I found a bug
When you zoom in to 100% or more, the replies dont seem to have "word wrap" and get cut off
>>743
>>98
Will investigate, thank you.
2 minor usability flaws I'd like to report:
When opening a thread, I always get scrolled halfway down
Also, when you click on an ID to reply, the message box pops up, but you should auto-focus to the message field so you can start typing right away. Better shitposting ergonomics are important
>>132
Noted, thank you, I will work on fixing said things. A big update is going to be released in the next week or so.
>>132
Out of curiosity are you posting on mobile?
>>134
No, desktop.
>>135
What browser? Chrome or Firefox?

I tried recreating the issue that you described about opening up a thread and it jumping to the middle but wasn't able to.
>>132
As for the auto-focus onto message field I can do that no problem.
>>136
On seamonkey. I just tried on firefox and couldn't replicate it either. So I don't know if that's some janky JS that my browser isn't handling well or what.
>>138
The JS interpreter on your version of Seamonkey could indeed be different/outdated to the one present in Firefox.
100 post limit per thread?
>>143
I believe it's 50, but it will be raised in a couple of days due to greater traffic.
Hey Boss,

Global Rule 2...doxxing
Is it against US Law?
News Media seem to do it all the

I understand stand why you may frown upon it, as it may quickly lead to other illegal acts, but stickly speaking, illegal? But if it restricted to doxxing and nothing else shouldnt it be allowed?

Found this with first search into matter https://www.internetlawyer-blog.com/doxing-violation-privacy-laws/,
Guy cites a newly created Cali Law that forbids disclosing online an actors age, that may in future be used to set precedent. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1687

If no crime is committed revealing someones publicly available info, ie name address age email, don't see need for Rule myself.

Mind you I have no real dog in this fight, Im not looking to doxxing anyone or being doxxed, but in the interest of Freedom of Speech and most immportantly Freedom of Information perhaps this rule should be discussed further
>>143
>>144
Bump limit was 50, post limit 100
lol with traffic tonight could prob double both
>>145
I'll write an update to the global rules tomorrow that specifically outlines this.
>>147
Cool, other anons brought it up
thx
Something weird just happened over in 1488 dental thread on /pol/
Not sure if was me playing with firefox privacy settings but my flag change from Leaf to US. Not using VPN
Then someone else responded and their ID was the same as my "test"
>>170
This is likely an issue with the backend, double posting happens every once in a while. I am going to mention it to the backend maintainer, thanks for bringing this us.
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>>178

https problem, certificate untrusted
recommend letsencrypt
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shota board when?
>>326
Kys.
>>327
What a fucking faggot
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>>327
So much for this site being about "free speech"
>>330
Pedos not welcome. Once again, kys. Go to quarterchan. No one will miss you.
>>331
Why? are you scared?
>>332
16chan is a law abiding website. Such content is borderline and attracts the lowest form of trash humanity has to offer. You must be retarded or part of that demografic, in which case you are not welcome.
>>333
Last I checked it's still legal in most places including in the US, at least on the federal level
>attracts the lowest form of trash humanity has to offer
And /pol/ doesn't?
It's the whole reason doublechan got shut down. clearly free speech is code"let the nazis talk"
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Care to share a legal source?

Also you do acknowledge that housing content like that would bring about actual pedos, you understand that? It's precautionary.
>>334
>dahurrr you allow NatSoc so you should allow actual depraved scum
NatSoc is an ideology and we actually have reasons why we support the National Socialists of Germany (and obviously we deny any lolocaust), what's your excuse? Evil shouldn't exist, ergo all pedophiles should be fed to piranhas.
Copied.
Credit to another anon.

"the current shill tactics used against the board;
>slide threads
Aim: Flood the board and drown out actually important topics that might move slower due to the complexity ect.
Method: Pointless fluff threads designed to draw large amounts of attention due to the ambiguity and controversiality of the questions. Most often one line questions based on hot button topics. Common examples are "is x white", "Traps arent gay", "greta", "What do you think about x race", "amerimutts". The list goes on forever. 

>Standard consensus crack/AstroTurf
Aim: To project to the casual viewers that pol holds specific opinions that it doesnt actually hold. There are many uses to this.
Method: Bombard hot topic threads with many posts that create an implied consensus. You can spot these shills by their lack of knowledge of board culture and very weak/confusing infographics that tend to lack serious sources.

>Strawman AstroTurf
Aim: A consensus crack, mainly aimed at people that might be new/casual browsers.
Method: This is where they create a thread rather innocuously then post on different ips to create a narrative often counter to the original post. This creates a false consensus on certain topics. A good example is they make a Saint T thread then immediately bombard it with sloppy job mossad.
(I thought I should specifically call this strawman tactic out as its so rampant)

>Hard shill(maybe there is a better name)
Aim: To push a topic into pol's conscience often aiming to get a predictable contrarian response
Method: Simply make a large quantity of threads relating to the same topic, can be used in conjunction with both astroturf and sliding. Specific example I am thinking of is Greta threads. They are very unnaturally spammed. (In my eyes the reason is to legitimize the backlash against her so they can play the victim card)
(Attention this is a repost)
Cred to aussie poster"
>Collapse Thread
Not sure if anyone else has asked for it or if it has been addressed but could you please add the collapse thread button or something else that allows us to hide threads when browsing boards?
>>696
Yes, as it stands this feature is available in index mode, it will be added to the catalog mode.
Can you make the site more non-javascript friendly?
>>634
>>697
TL;DR /pol/ 100 Thread Count Limit

Realize the /pol/ 50 Thread count limit may be due to making Moderation not a nightmare, but we seem to really tight in pol. I tend to have to browse catalog from the bottom upward for fear of a thread sliding off board while reading. One night had thread drop as I was writing a reply lol. Way too easy for one Anon, whether intentional or not, to post 5 or so threads and bump a few of higher quality, "higher" being subjective as it is.

In a day when simply being a white male, is sometimes considered as "politically incorrect", a pol board is always going to see a lot of slightly to vastly different topics, seems too many threads lately have been bumped after a short period with a few replies but not necessarily due to being low value nor interest

While composing this, noticed you are presently pruning (including a couple of your own posts), so I'll withdraw the request, and let you manage as ya see fit. Thanks again BO
>>727
100% agree, I'm going to compromise and make the limit 80 for the time being from 50. This should help alleviate the issue.
>>728
Aw, pshh. You spoil us. Giving in to our every whim. Cheers mate
i can't start thread on pol is there a problem ?
>>786
Should be fixed now
>>789
I'm getting error 500 that theres no file even though there is one when creating a thread on /pol/ i dont understand fix pls
>>789
>>790
i still get error 500 please fix this i don't want the board to die already
>>789
>>790
>>792
day 2 of problem, send help
>>802
Going to need some more details, what OS are you running/browser, did you clear cache/cookies?

I can't seem to recreate this issue, I can always make threads and upload media, tried several devices and Tor as well and haven't had this issue.
>>803
Windows 10 chrome and
yes i tried clearing cache and cookies

i tried everything
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>>810
<windows
<chrome
I shitpost all day long from tor on gnu/linux and haven't had any problems.
>learn2compute my dude
>>810
Give Tor a shot if you don't mind.
>>810
Any update Anon? we all had similar issue for couple days, was fixed then broken, but it was fixed again last night, should be fine now

>just checked and your right its broke again
>>813
>>810
Fixed (for now) Anon
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>>810
>>811
>>>/pol/9288
I just made a thread in /pol/ right now. IMO something that keeps windows and/or chrometards from starting threads is a feature, not a bug.
>>724
This
I would just like all posts that have porn to be banned and the posters to be banned as well, let's keep the board clean.
We really need a reason on the log page. For example it says
https://16chan.xyz/.global/logs/2019-11-05.html

>Type: Posting deletion
>User:burgersyum
>Board: pol
>Time: 11/05/2019 (Tue) 03:10:02
>User burgersyum deleted the following threads: 13399 and the following posts: 13401, 13411, 13418, 13420, 13425, 13427, 13428, 13436, 13447 from board /pol/.

And I just happen to know which thread 13399 was cus I saw it, but why delete? It may have not been the most high effort OP, but lower effort OPs where allowed to stay, or at least moved to /b/. There was some quality effort posts there and a discussion forming. I have my own feelings on why it was deleted (suppression of topics deemed too magical or /fringe/) but without a board for such or at least fair treatment to move to /b/ when literal shit was given that benefit of the doubt it smells of suppression of free speech.
>>922
What was thread about? There has been a ton of crap threads the last 2 days
>>922
Also look at the entry just above that one the thread was reported
>>923
Karma, caste, genetic relation within, and how a self aware society would structure itself within said paradigm. There where several effort posts and it was becomming a fine discuession.
https://16chan.xyz/.static/pages/federation.html
Typo for 'alliance.' You spelled it 'Alliace.'
Could you make the red text brighter? The dark background obscures it. Thanks.
Geoflags on /pol/ when? Would be great, no memeflags though.

Also, how about locking the thread if OP has only 1 post for over X span of time?
Create a theology board and an automobile board
>>577
>epstein grins as how fucks "underage" girls while white knights defend roasties that hate nationalism or tradthot larper snitch bitch type of attention whores


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