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The Trump problem and the Trump silver lining Anonymous 11/11/2020 (Wed) 17:30:40 No. 36821 [Reply] [Last]
So Trump appears to actually be contesting the fraudulent election. This is certainly unexpected and interesting. Let's assume that he does manage to squeak his way into another 4 years through the court system. Neo-cuckservative judges tend to be the worst backstabbers on earth. They are allergic to winning. But let's give Trump the benefit of the doubt and say that he has taught the cuckservatives to win. Or at least to stop cucking every single minute of their miserable lives. So the problem with a Trump presidency is obvious but I'll go over it in brief; With a White fake-conservative in office, White supporters who otherwise would be inclined to resist the genocidal zionist regime instinctively side with that regime even though Trump has done almost nothing to help us. So long as Trump is in the Whitehouse, organized White resistance to White genocide is all but impossible. Trump could probably pass an executive order banning guns and succeed more than Joe Biden, who would probably precipitate a revolt. And if the shitlib/anti-White forces revolt against his regime (a SERIOUS revolt and not these gay riots), then Trump would just crush them with the support of the real (((ruling class))) and Whites would support this. Again, even as Trump continued to do nothing to protect our rights and racial security. So all that is bad. But there is still a silver lining to all of this. Trump winning the election despite "losing" it will probably be the final nail in the well deserved death of American fake-democracy. Even if Trump loses in the courts, the insane support for the legitimacy of this idiotic democracy has been shattered by this election. And that is good. But I will make some further predictions; If Trump chooses to Vladimir Putin this fake democracy, then he will alienate himself from both the snarling neo-liberal oligarchy and the flaccid neo-cuckservative oligarchs. The gray bureaucrats of the system are wedded to the corrupt plutocracy of American democracy. They will never support a more dictatorial system because their power base is derived from channeling influence. If Trump centralizes the power structure (or at least appears to do so by upsetting their apple cart) This means that Trump will be forced to seek elsewhere for some base of support for his administration. His cult-like followers will always support him. And maybe that is enough. But he may eventually seek the support of more serious political positions like White nationalism. And if Trump ends up associating with serious White nationalists, we will inevitably end up colouring his thinking. That is the silver lining to a Trump dictatorship. I will say that I am really, really not looking forward to a situation where White nationalist militias defend the jewish supremacist oligarchy from retarded communists, but at least if we are allowed to organize, maybe we can start rocking the boat in a White-wing direction.
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>>37235 I get that that's the argument but it's a retarded one. I'm not contesting that the system as a whole needs to go but I find not using every angle to buy time to do so retarded. It makes it seem like exactly the thing left-wing viral marketers would argue.
>>37256 someone is buying time with voting, but its definitely not you. theres no lesser or greater of two kikes. if you want to do something politically meaningful with your time, get yourself prepared for zog unleashed or collapse. help others if you have the interest and time to afterward.
>>37254 You write like a schizo.
>>37240 >You're a shill!!!!!! >shills for Trump >shills for jews
>>37256 >I find not using every angle to buy time to do so retarded. I believe that voting in local elections is beneficial. I don't think voting for president accomplishes much. Even if Trump wins in the end, he's just a tough talking neo-con. But if voting for president makes you feel like you're accomplishing something, by all means do so every 4 years. It's like an opinion poll jews conduct every 2 years to determine how effective their propaganda is. Lately it has become less effective. Thankfully, jews are stupid and they haven't adapted their propaganda.

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Shenanigans Thread Anonymous 11/06/2020 (Fri) 14:13:48 No. 36561 [Reply] [Last]
Post your shenanigans here int his thread
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Topic got split into another thread >>36611 >>36674 >>36677 >>36680 >>36686 >>36689 >>36690 >>36703 >>36706 Video of PA 20,000 vote flip from Trump to Biden
“As long as I count the Votes, what are you going to do about it. say?” — attributed to William M. “Boss” Tweed in Thomas Nast cartoon, 7 October 1871). https://www.loc.gov/resource/ds.12564/
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Below are the meeting notes: In a meeting I was invited to by the democrat party in Pima Country Arizona on Sept 10 2020, no phones or recording devices were allowed, a presentation was given including detailed plans to embed 35,000 in a "spread configured distribution" to each democrat candidate's vote totals. When I asked "how in the world will 35,000 be kept hidden from being discovered", it was stated that "spread distribution will be embedded across the total registered voter range and will not expand county registered voter count". It was also stated that "total voter turnout versus total registered voters[?] determine how many votes we can embed. The embedding will auto adjust based on voter turnout". Because the "embed votes are distributed sporadically all embedded votes will not be found, if audited, because the embeds are in groups of approximately 1000. This is so the county recorder can de??? ?? orversite issue or error as a group of 1,000 u a normal and acceptable error." "Maricopa County's embed totals will be substantially higher than Pima due to embeds being calculated based on the total number of registered voters" (retyped to save squinting)
>>36596 Yeah but dismissing it out of hand because of that is like saying > hey I found 1 million cases of voter fraud > yeah but each one faked only 400 votes so it's just a million nothingburgers It all adds up and if you add up all the 'glitches' and mail-in dumps, counters throwing out republican votes so hard they brag about it online, dominion algorithms, you wind up wondering if anyone voted for Biden in the first place

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Contrasts Anonymous 10/26/2020 (Mon) 15:59:09 No. 36275 [Reply] [Last]
I've been thinking over the election of 2016 and doing some comparisons with the zeitgeist and events of that election with this one. And there are many interesting similarities. Once again we have Trump in all his bluster and apparent outsider-ness pitted against another gray faced, bureaucratic throwback to both the Obama era and the Bush era and before. Once again we have the mass media lying about polls and accusing Trump of being in league with the Russians. Once again we have an email scandal and once again the decrepit, bureaucratic face who represents the Democratic "colour coalition" is too slow and old to do anything other than stutter and blunder about while the internet laughs at them. Too, once again the race rioting of BLM casts a shadow over the entire facade of elections, shedding light upon the tribal nature of "democracy" in a vibrant utopia. So it appears that we are repeating history. Truly the jews are not creative thinkers. And yet, there are some very important differences. If this were 2016, we'd look around and see alt-right faces everywhere commenting and agitating online and even in public. (and please forgive me for I will be using the term "alt-right" very loosely to describe the wider phenomenon of the resurgence of pro-White political organizations seeking to reform the System through electoral processes) That is almost completely absent today. The kikes may be uncreative thinkers, but they have learned from the last election and the iron fist of repressive censorship has never been more obvious than today. The alt-right was in large part a reaction to the race rioting and blatant anti-White hypocrisy of the Regime. If the internet were less repressively regulated, we would probably see a similar trend in reactionary thinking today. And because of this, another interesting trend has developed. The 2016 election was fun for Trump supporters, alt-rightists, and even some Hillary Clinton supporters. But I don't think it would be disputed that this election does not have much of the charm of the 2016 election. Both sides are gritting teeth and marching with a grim determination to win. The memes of 2020 are pale comparisons with the confident and fun memes of 2016. This feels less like an election and more like a desperate struggle. And the stridently anti-White side has made it clear that they view this as the revenge election. Not only do they want to win at all costs, but when they do they will take vengeance against the wicked Whites and reprobate right wingers. Most of those Whites and right wingers are too slow to start thinking in the same manner. And yet more do today than in 2016. A lot more people are talking about civil war than in 2016. The faith in the broken institutions is much weaker now. Our predictions are being vindicated. And yet we are much weaker today than in 2016. Say what you will about the concept of the "alt-right," they were organized in the real world. Richard Spencer may have been a cringy bobo, but his philosophy was 1000 times more manly than the Proudboys and his online followers were 1000 times more hard hitting than those of Q-anon. And Spencer is just an extreme example. David Duke and IE were attempting to found grassroots political parties too. Things looked bright. If things had taken a turn for the worse (read; better) and violence had broken out, the wider alt-right tent could easily have turned into the skeleton for White organization. Now the best organized "dissidents" are the jew worshiping Proudboys. We even have lost great philosophers like Bob Whitaker and Harold Covington. We are much weaker now than 4 years ago. If Trump wins and shitlibs and niggers chimp out, then the Regime will probably just let them maim and kill White randoms while using any defensive action taken by Whites as a bludgeon of White guilt. If Trump loses and president Harris then uses the existing antifa and BLM organizations to take vengeance against Whites, then I fear that we're collectively less able to resist it than we were 4 years ago. That is the greatest contrast between this election and the previous one.
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>>37119 I hope so we would kick their ass their solders have to put on diapers so they don't shit their selfs in battle and they pander to vegetarians that are in the their army the jew is truly the weakest race
>>37112 Why is nobody reporting them for terrorism? Make a sockpuppet and do it now.
>>37132 Heh, while I commend you for pro-active thinking, I must chuckle at the thought that the rules that apply to us would be applied to them. Double standards are the name of the game when you are a dissident.
>>36292 All so-called "leaders" are controlled opposition.
>>37131 We'll bomb their headquarters, and kidnap and torture their officers to death and leave their hanged bodies boobytrapped for them to find. In Minecraft of course.

What's 16 chan's opinion on the book 1984? Anonymous 09/18/2020 (Fri) 00:45:24 No. 35321 [Reply] [Last]
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>>35324 Wtch the original title of this book on wikipédia and you will have your answer
Overrated. It described things people could easily grasp but was conceptually muddled- it also never reached a synthesis. To create an alternate world is an achievement, but to simply parody our own is not. Animal farm is also simply a parody of our world as Orwel saw it, the world of animal farm does not survive logically unless it's built onto an understanding of our own. To attempt to guile the reader into conclusions about our own world through a proxy is cowardly, a philosopher faces what is real directly. It's hot-footing between an argument that cannot survive in the real world, and a narrative that cannot survive in it's own world. >TL;DR: 'X is just like Y'
>>36232 It's one of those works that everyone thinks they understand without having actually read. The book is neither about censorship, surveillance or an authoritarian state. Those are just framing for the nihilist crisis of a man who can't accept self-delusion as a coping mechanism, but also can't embrace his hedonist nature. Neither an aesthetic able to find inner peace, unable to integrate with society , unable to survive in a macrosphere of the state/god, unable to carve out a micro sphere. The whole work is about how nothing is ever right, and how everyone is trying to survive within that understanding. >ignore near problems by embracing grander successes >Ignore global issues by clinging to near-pleasures >ignore cognitive stress by embracing the intellectual state >ignore the intellectual state by creating a inner debate
>>36212 Did they? They seem like they're their own worst enemy sometimes.
If the US government lied about the Iraq war, why would you trust the government about anything else?

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The Helicoptarians Anonymous 05/02/2020 (Sat) 06:38:12 ID:a510ac No. 26818 [Reply] [Last]
Sauce: https://helicoptarianconstitocracy.org/home/ Browsing late night I've come across this group. Seems like a secluded group of people who own land and have different laws in the US similar to Mormons. Now the important question is are they legit? Tbh seems like a pyramid scheme. I honestly doubt they'd be able to do something like this in this day and age. Especially with the crazy radical leftists running wild. Would be nice if it was legit though. A land where white men are in charge and run the show. Thoughts anons?
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>New Murdoch Murdoch Episode is out! >https://helicoptarianconstitocracy.org/murdoch/wizards-bros/ >Plz share.
>>28032 Given that communists are historically notorious for their lack of respect for property rights and self ownership and have been responsible for the greatest mass murders in recent human history we can deduce that they do not apply rights such as self ownership to others or themselves.Furthermore this means that communists can not be considered a mortal agent if one does not have an ability to make moral judgement.Since these moral relativists reject the notion of mortality altogether we know they are incapable of acting in moral fashion in order for rights to exist between two or more beings there must exist some level of reciprocation of rights.Such is the minimum requirements for one exist some level or reciprocation of rights.Such is the minimum requirement for one to be considered a moral being.Communists are incapable of reciprocating rights as they do not believe such things exist.We can thus conclude that communists;being incapable of showing characteristic's of humanity are therefore for all intents and purposes not human and such should be treated as dangerous primates.
>>35088 The video player of that shit site sucks.
>>29056 this is where I read them as. seems well intended, but wtf, they have 'land sales' for like 200 usd a piece but dont say where these may be. if anything, they just need some guidance on helping build the goal. someone mentioned also a lack of "God" and I agree that they will fall if they have nothing to stand with. Whether it be "God" or whatever , even something arbitrary as their cornerstone.
>>35096 >The video player of that shit site sucks. Yeah, I'm gravedigging. But why does the video player of that shit site suck? It's the best MM archive around, when it comes to the webdesign, you can download vidoes simply via rightclick, and it even has a comment section. I find the site great, despite the bias, that I wasted days of my life while making it.

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/Fsg/ - Fascist / Third Position General /fsg/ 11/06/2019 (Wed) 22:34:06 ID:9d11a6 No. 13674 [Reply] [Last]
/Fsg/ - Fascist / Third Position General

Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism and other forms of Third Position Politics, Traditionalism, Corporatism, etc. Also for sharing Fascist literature and information.





Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual".

Fascists and other influential people who lay the foundations of the philosphy of Fascism:

Oswald Mosely
Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera
Benito Mussolini
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Goebbels
Stepan Bandera
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
Ettore Ovazza
Gaetano Mosca
Anton Drexler
Friedrich Nietzsche
Charles Maurras
Enrico Corradini
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti
Johann Plenge
Alceste De Ambris
Gabriele d'Annunzio
Juan Perón
Giovanni Gentile
Julius Evola
Plínio Salgado
Julius Caesar
Gottfried Feder

Types of Fascism/Third Positonism:

Italian Fascism
British Union of Fascists
Clerical Fascism
Brazilian Integralism
Estado Novo

Ba'athism, Nasserism, The Syrian Social Nationalist Party, and the 4th Political Theory are also allowed to be discussed.

"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly." ~Oswald Mosely
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>>14162 Forgot to add pic related.
>>22106 No he wasn't. He was Spanish and Spaniards are Catholic as fuck, give him a break, jeez. One positive comment about Christianity and you go nuts. Not everyone you disagree with slightly is a Jew you fucking tard, he had a different perspective, deal with it. This is why /pol/ never gets anywhere. A lot of it might just be glowniggers trying to divide people as much as possible over every little disagreement, they've done that for a while but at this point I don't even know if they need to since folks here do the work for them anyway, y'all have learned to be super paranoid about anyone that has even slightly different views. The post is a few months old but I thought it warranted a reply anyway.
>>19495 > Hitler wasnt christian
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Take Heart, Anon. You're not alone in History. Anonymous 11/19/2020 (Thu) 00:13:52 No. 36962 [Reply] [Last]
I was listening to a lecture on the Irish Revolution, as every serious White Nationalist should do often, and this clip called out to me. Michael Laffan (a leftist professor, but they all are) describes the zeitgeist among the devoted Irish Nationalists shortly before the Easter Rising of 1916. They despised their own generation because they suffered from the lemming problem. They just accepted British authority and customs without protest. And yet just a few years later, these men who had given up hope in their own people would end up leading them to victory in a glorious revolt against the established order. Today, it appears that our contemporaries are lemmings, following whatever degrading trends the jewish influencers tell them to. It appears that our entire race has irreversibly been conditioned to behave like cattle, mindlessly wallowing in the mud with the rest of sub-humanity, adopting the poisonous artificial culture of conformist liberalism. Well, know that you are not alone. Many aspiring revolutionaries throughout history have looked upon their contemporaries with despair. But history is a funny thing. One minute it looks like all hope is lost. In the very next minute, people whom you would not expect to see doing anything heroic are charging a barricade and becoming a martyr for a cause they had never even heard of mere months before. Don't give up, anon. We're all fighting this together. We will win.
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>>36962 Great whitepill and good thread. Thanks OP! >>36984 I am a newbie to Irish politics. Any book recommendations?
>>36984 >>36985 You know your stuff, anon. I agree entirely. The censorship and state backed violence (from antifa or BLM) is just a taste of what is in store for us in the future. Once the jewish oligarchs begin to feel truly secure in their dominance, the gloves will come off and they will begin treating the White minority with the same brutal suppression as they now treat the Palestinians. And they'll begin using the blacks systematically against Whites and they will act as they do in South Africa and Rhodesia. Seizing White victims, beating them bloody, and then setting fire to them. Laughing with animalistic glee. And when Whites do fight back, the repressive response from the regime will be brutal and indiscriminate. But we shall triumph in the end because for every brutal act which they commit, more will rise up in vengeance. This is how all insurgencies are won. And they cannot refrain from committing terror against the population because it is in their nature and in the nature of all oppressive regimes to seek short term gain (via terror) over long term gain. And of course, jews will behave as jews always behave when in power. This is why their history is a cycle of gaining power and then being expelled for their wickedness. Interestingly, the primary victims of black violence will be the shitlibs who relax around them. Ironic that they shall provide the bodies which we shall turn into White martyrs. But then, they are tools, they always have been, and they always will be. >>36986 Not the same anon (also, thanks fren) but one book I might recommend is an autobiography called Southside Provisional. It is about the author's experience in the IRA. I recommend it because it sheds light upon the unit level details of life in an actual insurgent cell. Very illuminating. I was most impressed at how ballsy the IRA combatants were. In one example, Conway (the author) was in charge of training a group of new recruits. He described the area in which they trained and I managed to locate approximately where he was talking about. It was right next to a fucking city! Maybe a small one, but still, the people would have heard the gunfire in the hills. And sure enough, in the book he describes how his team had to E&E after a British plane began canvassing the hills, then the British army were sent to cordon off the place, and he and his team sneaked past them through the underbrush. This is just amazing to me since Ireland (like most of Europe) is effectively deforested. And that hillock was no different. Such is the power of local knowledge. Also, he essentially explains how they made explosives.
>>36992 This is why I've yet to falter from what I know - no surrender. Luckily the light at the end of the tunnel is a shared struggle and it might end up with most whites worldwide being on the same side, including Russians.
>>37003 That would be beautiful. You know, nationalism is in large part born from shared oppression. This is why nations who experienced imperialism almost always have stronger sense of national community than those who didn't. Since the kikes are targeting us all for dehumanization and extermination, we may come out of this with a very mature sense of brotherhood in the face of jewish aggression. >>37008 I'm laughing so hard right now. That was beautiful.

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What are the odds that this is it? Anonymous 11/09/2020 (Mon) 16:50:17 No. 36726 [Reply] [Last]
What are the odds that the recent happenings finally do bring down ZOG? If Trump has done nothing for us, he has at least exposed the fraud that is American democracy. Millions of Americans now openly flaunt the media oligarchy that rules us. And Trump's base of support is still wide and deep enough that if he so wished, he could cause serious legitimacy problems for the new regime. Indeed, if he wanted to, he could just barricade himself in the Whitehouse and call up his loyalists. I don't think that this is likely, but it is on the table. BLM is still rioting, Trump loyalists are going to rally in 6 states and DC in less than a week, and millions who do not do not believe that the elections were legitimate. If things get hot, the zeitgeist of the revolt(?) will move in a radical direction fast. Leftists are already embracing extremist ideals. Maybe once conservatives are exposed to the harsh realities of the race war they are engaged in, they will move towards "radical" positions as well ("radical" being clownworld code for "beliefs which 99.9999% of humans in history hold") Is this the end of the beginning?
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>>36726 nobody will do shit. this is america. everyone is lazy
>>36938 Uh huh. And the Titanic will never sink because it is unsinkable. America will never lose a war because its people are motivated by freedom. This volcano will never erupt because it hasn't erupted in the last 200 years. And jews will never ever ever ever ever make a mistake. We've heard it all before.
>>36953 and it was all true

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The testosterone challenge! Anonymous 05/11/2020 (Mon) 16:23:00 ID:03fb54 No. 27908 [Reply] [Last]
There is a war on testosterone as per the Brave New World plan. Testosterone has been decresing 1% every year for decades. The testosterone challenge: for 1 month do the following. -eat ONLY testosterone boosting foods for 1 month, google eat food >cruciferious veggies (broccoli, kale, belgian sprouts etc) or carrots -eat 500 grams of ground beef daily (you need the fats) -make 2L of mint tea and rasp some fresh ginger and lemon in it (all these boost T) (drink 3L daily) -supplements: swallow supplements for vitamin D3, magnesium, zinc, and a multivitamin -take 60 grams of whey protein daily, one in the morning one right before you sleep -take 3 grams of creatinine daily -do stomach crunches in the morning and right before sleep until muscle failure (takes 2min max if you do it correctly) -do push ups until muscle failure and right before sleep until muscle failure (takes 2min max if you do it correctly) -eat whatever else you want as long as none of the ingredients lower testosterone (google each ingredient) and stay under your daily caloric output so you dont put on weight, if youre fat, stay 10-20% under your caloric need to lose 1kg every week. if you do this for 1 month Thoughts?
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>>27908 >>cruciferious veggies (broccoli, kale, belgian sprouts etc) or carrots You can take a DIM supplement which is like eating a wheelbarrow of greens. Green tea is bad for test. whey will make you fat and fart like a horse.
>>36015 >Our sperm is fewer and weaker because of cell phones Is that due to electromagnetic radiation? Lately I've developed the theory that 5 GHz radio waves are the cause of my tinnitus and I replaced Wifi in my computers with Ethernet (cabled) and I'm wondering if it's worth it to also disable it on my cell phone and use reverse tethering for my cell phone (everybody uses Whatsapp here and it can't be used from a PC, it needs connection on your cellphone).
I've had a lot of success with this machine. The Cardio Glide. It let's you do a full body sprint. I don't know how tough they are to come by, but worth it, truly, if you can get your hands on one.
>>27908 How exactly is this political, retard?
>>36842 Asked and answered >>28101 though OP could have just used the /sig/ thread

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THIS IS THE ONLY PLAN WE CAN TRUST Anonymous 11/09/2020 (Mon) 21:57:02 No. 36747 [Reply] [Last]
THIS IS THE ONLY PLAN WE CAN TRUST We had to wait to this late stage to make you see The Plan was a "sting operation" on YOUR SELF and the "war on terror", the aggression wars in the Middle East, the war on "tax evasion", the war on "the virus", all was to design the Global Police State Dictatorship coming into clear view. WE NEED TO MAKE A GRASSROOT ORGANIZATION FOR THE COLLECTION OF INFORMATION ON THE GLOBALIST STRUCTURE OF POWER 1- BLACKLIST 2- WATCHLIST 3- WHITELIST BLACKLIST The semi-public List of nefarious and immoral elements at top, medium and even low level of corporate Global Structure of Power and that also encroached into the Instruments of National Power along with all TRAITORS who committed ill service to the Nation. Needless to say that we are interested first in those HIGH up in the pyramid. WATCHLIST It is a list just before the black.

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i believe the most peaceful outcome would be trump reverse election and only going after top people leaving lower level democrats alone and their supporters and also capitalism needs to be reinvented legalize drugs and brothels because people are tired of doing the same god damn thing over and over again
>>36785 the reason for legalization is because everyone already does drugs in some form or the other most prescription drugs are literally synthetic narcotics most people are on some form of synthetic cocaine or opiate anyways
the biggest thing you can do is get someone like you into office and use their power as far as necessary seize all assets land buildings etc and put them into hands of people like YOU do it legally and influence people in a positive way but i believe in destroying anyone immediately that messes with you or your family respect needs to be taught to all people really really fast regardless of background race or whatever
if it cant be done legally rewrite the laws thats essentially what the swamp did for 100s of years which is why it is so hard to prosecute them
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