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The Icelandic Imperative - A White Israel Anonymous 02/29/2020 (Sat) 20:43:39 ID:2f3dd6 No. 23920
A few weeks ago an anon proposed an idea of Redpilled Ethnic Europeans in both continental Europe and the diaspora mass immigrate to Iceland to secure it as a Home state for ethnic Europeans and a bastion for Whites. Iceland is an isolated Island with favorable demographics and Political system for such a movement. With a 93% percent Icelandic population, and the largest ethic minority are Polish at 3%. The Fertility rate is well above replacement at 2.1. Iceland also coincidentally ranks as the 4th happisest country by the World Happiness Report. These factors in combination make it the ideal location for a defacto White Ethnostate. Iceland is governed as a Constitutional Republic with a multiparty system, 8 parties in total. Within only 2 to 3 generations of nepotism we could subvert the government. We could secure policy and legislation that would bottleneck immigration of non Europeans while promoting the immigration of ethnic Europeans, push nationalist and pro European values in the media, build GDP, induce a population boom, and build a standing military that would defend the interests of the people. Iceland by far is the least pozzed European country by far and is rich with potential. Mass immigration by pro White Professionals could do wonders for our cause. Its geographic isolation, European stock, and a lack of diversity make it a much more stronger candidate than the American Northeast and Midwest, which while large and ethically europeanis surrounded by hordes of low iq "minorities", and under the monolithic thumb of ZOG. What are your thoughts regarding the matter? Is their a better location to consider? What challenges would a movement like this face?
>>23923 I'm not Icelandic, but I have far more knowledge of Icelandic society than you do. You clearly haven't done your research regarding Iceland (hopefully you actually didn't know how bad its geography was, since if you had basic knowledge about it you'd know better, and have no reason to ignore it). Iceland was one of the first governments in Europe to repeal anti-homosexuality laws (the other one being the Ottomans a century prior, and they were not even Europeans, just lived in Europe) back in 1940. Their former prime minister was literally a woman married to a woman, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir. Their state church recognises homosexual marriage, their school curriculum is full of homosexual propaganda instilled into students from a young age, etc. Again, the only reason Iceland hasn't been attacked by immigration is because it's so far away and there's in general no reason to go there instead of Germany or Sweden. Don't think that will stay; immigration will increase.
>>23924 No I not op, I was just hoping you were Icelandic so I could finally talk to someone serious from there and not one of the retards on 4chan. Since you're so familiar with Iceland, have you been there or are you another type of Scandinavian (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, does Finnish count?)? I have more questions to ask if you are.
>>23925 Yes, what are your "questions"? And Finns are Nordic but not Scandinavian, technically they're Fennoscandian.
If you're not Scandanavian or North European don't move to Iceland. Nobody wants it as mongrelified as the U.S. Running away and abandoning our homeland to the lesser races only makes our doom certain. We must take back our homelands now before the demographics are get worse and we wind up with the same fate as Rhodesia and South Africa. You can't run forever so turn around and fight.
>>23926 Are Scandinavians really as fucked up as /pol/ makes them out to be? Are they really like the Eloi? Are Swedes particularly bad or are all scandis the same? On a power ranking scale how would you compare Scandis to Balts, Slavs, Germans, Brits, and Meds (+ any other euro ethnicities I forgot)? Are Scandinavians dull, childish, overly trusting, cowardly, etc or no? Also is it true that Scandinavians are semimongolized? Why are Uralic Finns Nordic but not Scandinavian?
>>23932 >Are Scandinavians really as fucked up as /pol/ makes them out to be? No. Most Swedes for example are unemployed and so aren't really migrant-loving at all, considering that the state does more to help migrants than it does to help them, a large portion of the population don't care about any kosher left or kosher right party. They aren't super feminised at all on a larger scale. Scandinavia is so doomed for different reasons than feminisation. It's again, migrants coming from anywhere, said unemployment, incredibly high taxes, the lack of respect for philosophy, jews pitting the kosher left against the kosher right and many people actually playing into it. It's also that so many people are introverts, which destroys the integrity of the race. >are all scandis the same All countries vary, in many cases Norway was actually more accepting of migrants than Sweden for a time. I'd probably say Norway is the worst when it comes to this (not attacking the Norwegians as a people, but their current state), as they have both an anti-white left and a fervent Zionist bloc opposing it when it comes to these issues. Swedes don't buy into it as much as Norwegians do, nobody supports any party, even the NMR (which yes, is a fake honeypot literally trained by Putinist Russia, which is why they were able to become a party to begin with) >On a power ranking scale how would you compare Scandis to Balts Similar to Estonians, but Latvians and Lithuanians are typically better (not accounting for jews or the recent "Russian" immigrant population which is mostly just an Asiatic/churka infiltration) >Slavs Scandinavians are very similar to Czechs in a way, but not at all like South or East Slavs. >Germans Scandinavians are essentially the same in this scale. >Brits Very similar in ethnicity, but they're not the same politically, the UK has a far more left-vs-right approach on things. >Meds Imagine the situation in Greece as everything bad in Scandinavia turned up to a thousand + the fact that Greeks are far more collectivist, and you'll know how the Greek mind is now compared to Scandinavia, they're not as wrapped up in the party dialectic as well (even GD is rejected by many as controlled opposition). The problem is that they still blame their problems on fall guys like Soros due to his presence in Greece. Italians and Spaniards are basically the Greeks but less extreme. >semimongolized This is untrue unless you count certain Lapp admixture in northern Norway, such mixture in southern Sweden and Denmark is practically non-existent. The Uralics are actually another proto-European population, so Finnic admixture in general is not being "Mongolised". >Uralic Finns Nordic but not Scandinavian Because they're in northern Europe and had a close tie with the Swedes since the iron age, this is reflected in Norse texts themselves that do refer to the Finns (thus it precedes the Swedish crusade i.e. sanctioned massacre of the Finns). The reason why they're not Scandinavian is because they're not the same North-Germanic ethnicity as Norwegians, Swedes, and Danes, Uralics aren't Mongols, but they're still different to Scandinavians.
English and the British have nothing to do with Scandavia. They (English) are a mixture of French, Celt and some Germanic Anglo-Saxon (from modern day Netherlands and Denmark) genes. They haven't been pure Germanic for a while. And the Celts (Irish, Scottish, Welsh) have not much in common genetically, but the Celts have rubbed up and down on the Germanics for a long time (as they lived close together) before migrating to the isle. tl;dr Gentically? No. Culturally? A wee bit laddie To say Britian is Germanic would just be false though.
>>23948 Thanks for the answers (you're the same guy as >>23926 right?). So do Swedes have an inferiority or superiority complex when it comes to Finns? Do Swedes really feel that Finns are Asiatic mongols like they do on 4chan? Is it that they feel superior to finns because of their indo-european connection or is it because their country is so shit right now (how shitty is Sweden btw?) that they feel the need to tear down their Uralic neighbor?
>>23971 Actually, it's that Norwegians have Celtic mixture themselves, same with the Faroese and Icelanders. >>23972 Yes, I'm the same person, just using different proxies. >So do Swedes have an inferiority or superiority complex when it comes to Finns? >Do Swedes really feel that Finns are Asiatic mongols like they do on 4chan? Not really, but they do always have a thing for Finns, the whole idea of them being slant-eyed Mongoloids is basically the same myth that applied to Russia for Germans, it isn't true but is a common tradition. It's likely that some Swedes just saw Sami people, and thought all Finns that don't speak Swedish are like that, it's not serious. The people on 4chan who do like to knock on Finns for being Mongoloids (on /pol/ and /his/) are probably not ethnically Swedish but are just obnoxious jews trying to just put out as much anti-white sentiment as possible. Nevertheless, only the Swedes really care so much about the Finns. Although Norway has a border and had a Finnish population (the Forest Finns), Norwegians are more closely tied with the west than they even are to the north of their own country. >how shitty is Sweden Very. Between the disunity of the nation and all the anti-white propaganda that keeps the population separated, 6.5% of the population is unemployed and the people that are are heavily extorted, indebted, and live in soulless commieblocks. Alcoholism and antidepressants are also huge (though the latter is bigger in other Nordic countries) since people want to cope with how bad their lives are. And speaking of soulless, to top it all off the culture in general is negrified, and to a far larger extent than other parts of Europe. To sum it all up, Sweden in its current state shares many of the same problems the USA and Russia do, and due to the same reasons.
>>23976 That sounds depressing. What do you make of statistics that say Denmark is the happiest country on earth?
>>23976 Sauce? The Faroe Islands makes sense but not really Iceland or Norway and as far as I can find I don't see anything saying they are a mixture of Celts and Northern Germanics.
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>>23979 Denmark also coincidentally uses the most antidepressants in the world. It's what happens when your country is extorted this much by jews, both financially and in resources (Denmark is one of the most fertile countries in Europe), while they try to pin the problem on someone else and use the narrative of "oy vey you saved us in WWII, you can't fight us!" if somebody goes against them.. >>23980 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/why-people-in-iceland-look-just-like-us-1.1104676 Iceland was both first settled by Irish hermits, and later on by Norwegians with Irish and Scottish thralls, they were also brought back to Norway. Norway is R1b, not I1 like the rest of the North Germanic countries, they also physically resemble Celts with a higher proportion of red hair, etc. (of course, all more present in the western side of Norway, not Oslo, Finnmark et. al.)
>>23920 >Hey guys let's ruin Iceland for the Icelandic! Just move to somewhere empty in Canada. English is already the language and the federal government's ability to project force is logistically nowhere near that of the US. But you better have some way of making money and keeping it hush hush.
>>24053 Or just somewhere sexy like Europa Island. It's empty (execpt for a small temp French garrison and airstrip) and has a big bush area free for homesteading... or we could just not run away as that can only really hurt.
>>23998 So some Celtic but still mostly Nordic. Makes sense, but why does it say Spain has a high mixture of R1b in common with England. They don't really look that similar phenotype wise.
>>24057 Many English and especially Welsh people look similar to the Spanish, though there are more Nordic-type people in England due to the different haplogroup distribution (more J and E for Spain).
>>24084 I think splitting by country is a bit retarded. Like Republic Srpska is going to have a different pheno and genotype than the rest of Bosnia as well as North and South France from eachother. I wouldn't really say Northern French or English look like the majority of Spainish per-captia either. Especially taking eye color and hair color into account.
>>24097 Srpska isn't going to be much different from the rest of Bosnia, as Bosnia is generally a mix of Serbs and Croats, both of whom are already closely related Slavic tribes; "Bosniaks" are actually just descendants of ethnic Serb Bogomils (at least the ones that survived) that converted to Islam before the Ottomans left. The darker complexion of certain Bosniaks comes not from the Turks, but from older Anatolian immigrants settled in by Byzantium (more reasons why the middle ages were bad for whites). I do agree that having England undivided does mess things up however, as northern and eastern English are less Celtic. Anyhow, the Spanish mostly resemble other Celtic-descended peoples, the French and southern English included; Galicians and northern Portuguese resemble the Irish especially (freckles and sometimes red hair), the only exceptions are certain conversos passed off as "Spanish" today.
>>24101 It's impossible for Bosnians to descend from "Serbian Bogomils" as the Bosniak Church and it's "krištjani" adherents all came about after the Bosnian Kingdom had been set up. It's more likely Bosnians come from a Turkish admixture as they interbred with the Turkish during the occupation more than any other South Slav state as they were the only ones to convert and kiss up to their occupiers. Not to mention in the mid 1680 as Turkish Hungary was falling apart millions of Turks fled to Muslim Bosnia for protection. This isn't even their first brush with the Turks. Turkish Huns and Avars eariler would settle and move along the region. I think it's more correct to say they are a Middle-Eastern Race with some left over Dinartic genomes from their neighbor. And they are clearly not Serbian and are infact closer geneticaly to Croatians. So it is stupid to group them together with Serbs and Croats.
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>>24112 >It's impossible for Bosnians to descend from "Serbian Bogomils" as the Bosniak Church and it's "krištjani" adherents all came about after the Bosnian Kingdom had been set up. I'm talking about Bosniaks, not Bosnians as a whole (Bosnians can be Serbs, Croats, or Bosniaks, Bosniaks are just the Muslims). They were originally just Catholic Serbs, then converted to Bogomilism, then Islam. Bosnia was just a region full of Serbs that was controlled by Hungary, there was no "Bosnian" tribe before the Bosniaks came into play. >It's more likely Bosnians come from a Turkish admixture as they interbred with the Turkish during the occupation more than any other South Slav state as they were the only ones to convert and kiss up to their occupiers. They weren't the "only ones to convert". Bosnia was actually majority Serb in the 19th century, during the Ottoman period Bosnia likely would've been as Muslim as Bulgaria or Greece were, neither of which are Turkish bastards today. Forced conversions were most common not in Bosnia, but in Greece, and the Pomaks made up a large portion of Bulgaria's population until the Balkan wars and later the Zhivkov regime. The Pomaks of Bulgaria were likewise also the descendants of Bogomils who converted to Islam, it's just that they were repressed after the Balkan wars (whereas the Bosniaks were supported by the Habsburg rule that succeeded the Ottomans) and as an eastern bloc country. >Not to mention in the mid 1680 as Turkish Hungary was falling apart millions of Turks fled to Muslim Bosnia for protection. There were hardly any Turks in Hungary, there were a few hundred thousand janissaries and a few Ottoman aristocrats there. These janissaries were mostly ethnic Bosnians themselves, and so them fleeing into Bosnia doesn't affect it at all. >Turkish Huns and Avars eariler would settle and move along the region The Huns reached Belgium, and the Avars reached Austria; they hardly affected the regions' blood at all. >I think it's more correct to say they are a Middle-Eastern Race with some left over Dinartic genomes from their neighbor. It's the other way around. Yes, some are part middle-eastern, but that's more-so from older Byzantine migration, not Turkish. >And they are clearly not Serbian and are infact closer geneticaly to Croatians. Only some of them are closer genetically to Croats, and that would be mainly the ones in Posavina. The vast majority of Bosniaks are closer to Serbs and Bosnian Serbs genetically than to Croats, and that's assuming the reliability of genetics in the first place.
>>24118 >Bastard Races Greece is not even white anymore. I think that fits the defintion of "bastard" race, and Bulgarians are from Turkic descent. The Bulgars came from Turkic tribe living near and around Volga, they are bassically Slavicized Turks and hardly that. >Bogomils Bogomils couldn't of been a thing, I already said how that happened after the Slavs migrated South and set up their Kingdoms. The Bosnian Church could of well been Manichaean than Bogomil even. Most of the Bosnians willingly converted, you can't call it forced. They are even still "converted" today. >Bosnians can be Serbs Croations No. Get this civicnat stuff out of my face. We are talking about Bosniaks as a race. If you aren't Bosniak you aren't Bosnian . >Pomaks Vague term that means almost nothing. Do you mean Native Bulgarians who converted to Islam? Bulgarians are still a Turkish Tribe. >Byaztine Migration So you mean Greeks pre-Ottomans whom were white. That wouldn't influence their skin color making them into the Shit colored Bosniaks they are today.
What I am is saying is the Bosniaks are much to mongrelfied (Turkish, Croations some Serbs) to be stated as the same race as Serbians even genotype wise. I doubt they even have the same hertiage.
>>24121 >Greece is not even white anymore. I think that fits the defintion of "bastard" race No, Greece is still white, no amount of cherrypicking will prove otherwise. They physically resemble southern Italians, who descend from ancient Greek colonists, and were unaffected by the Ottoman invasion. >The Bulgars came from Turkic tribe living near and around Volga, they are bassically Slavicized Turks and hardly that. They're Slavs and Thracians that adopted the name of a Turkic tribe (which very well could've been a Turkified Sarmatian tribe); they're less Turkic than Russians are Finns. >Bogomils couldn't of been a thing, I already said how that happened after the Slavs migrated South and set up their Kingdoms Bogomils still made up a large portion of the population when the Ottomans first conquered the land. It was likely that the Bogomils and the Manichaeans of Bosnia converted to Islam after the Ottomans came in, because the population was still majority Serb and remained that way until the 20th century, when the Habsburgs started siding with the Bosniaks to oppose the Orthodox Serbs. >No. Get this civicnat stuff out of my face. We are talking about Bosniaks as a race. There's nothing civic nationalist about this, because Bosniaks are just Islamised Serbs. Again, Bosnia is a region comprised of Serbs and Croats, both of which were real South Slavic tribes, whereas there was never any Bosnian tribe, neither was there a Montenegrin tribe, etc., this entire "Bosnian" identity was a result of Catholic Serbs declaring independence from Hungary as a kingdom. Like "Montenegrins", Bosnians are just another offshoot of Serbs. >Do you mean Native Bulgarians who converted to Islam? Bulgarians are still a Turkish Tribe. I reiterate, Bulgarians are mostly Thracians and Slavs, they've hardly been Turkish since the 8th century. The Pomaks were actual native converts. >So you mean Greeks pre-Ottomans whom were white. That wouldn't influence their skin color making them into the Shit colored Bosniaks they are today. No, I'm talking about Anatolian immigration, not Greek. The Byzantines allowed Anatolian Paulicians to settle Bosnia and the rest of the Balkans when it was still under their control.
>>23920 Iceland has anpopulation of about 300 thousand icelanders, and at the moment as it stands have at minimum 50 thousand immigrants from everywhere soniceland is FUCKED and more and more people comming every year, i know because i in iceland.
iceland arguably has some of the purist white genes.. they don't need any foreign blood. do you want to turn europe into america? try standing and fighting instead.

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