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How Vulnerable Are America's Power Grids? Anonymous 10/05/2019 (Sat) 16:00:44 No. 6838
Remember These Type Of Threads Lads?

by Tyler Durden
Fri, 10/04/2019 - 22:45

> America's electricity grid powers our lives, but, as The Epoch Times' Chris Chappell points out, because it was never built with attacks in mind, it has plenty of vulnerabilities.
> Everything from malware cyber-attacks, to geomagnetic storms, to nuclear detonations in the atmosphere above the US, even sophisticated electronic weapons from Russia and China - all these threaten to shut down our grid and sow chaos.
> So what, if anything, is being done to counter this threat?

Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/how-vulnerable-are-americas-power-grids
Archive: http://archive.fo/Udaxl
There should be more off-grid or resilient grid creations to be prepared for breakdowns of large centralized systems.
>>15370
>should not seek to cause chaos
Not my claim. I'm scolding morons conflating the beginning with the end.
>the enemy is strongest
Wrong. The enemy grows stronger as white populations decline and dissident membership declines and ages.
>>15253
>bread and circuses
What comes after? Do you just hope the populous won't return back to "Democracy" for bread and citcus? You're all very shortsighted.
>>15353
>semantic games
No. It's very important to see where your insurgency should end. Your plan would fall short with no foresight or follow through.
>>15489
>I'm scolding morons conflating the beginning with the end.
Then you're projecting. Hard.
No one is conflating the beginning with the end.

> The enemy grows stronger as white populations decline and dissident membership declines and ages.
And the longer this System goes in unopposed, the more and more we decline.
Chaos is the beginning of the end for the System.

>What comes after?
The loss of legitimacy of the System and a building of White organizations capable of returning fire.
Everything that is happening is a result of White failure to organize. White men are too comfortable, too placid. Removing the ability of the System to pacify the population with false comfort and false security will destroy the one thing keeping White men from revolting.
Additionally, every billion dollars lost is less money that the System can pay their hired thugs. Through either inflation or taxation to compensate for useless loss, the wealth of the hired thugs decreases.
Finally, the System understands that it survives only by maintaining a 24/7 propaganda machine directed at White lemmings. Interrupting this machine is an imperative.

Also, every cop they need to use to police the cities is one less cop in the rural regions. Less police = more opportunity for Revolt.

You are the one who is short sighted.
Explain how one can overthrow the Regime without attacking its source.
>>15497
>No one is conflating the beginning with the end.
Except people here think that erosion of public trust in the system is enough to win the war. Considering this is on a power-grid thread they probably think that one attack with no other efforts will be a decisive victory. Sorry. I don't buy it.
>Chaos is the beginning of the end
That is until recovery efforts outpace your reign of terror. That is not even mentioning that a similar system that mimics or leads to the same old structure could just be reinstated again. Therefore, shortsighted and henceforth why propaganda and organization is important right now. We need more agreement on an order or it's just bread and circuses again after stabilization.
>pacify whites from revolting
Revolting towards what end though? The old Constitution of Continental Congress? Maga God Emperor? Democracy again? Total anarchy? That is most likely the popular choices considering the "rightwing" and militias right now. That is unacceptable. It's more important to start inflating these pro-white sentiments before a successful revolt and righteous order can be established. The rhetoric is growing and all the poll numbers, public speeches, and data on polarization are starting to show it.

Too early we're unorganized. Too late then we're too weak. And some asshole may attack before coordination and fuck it all up, making it twice as hard to establish a new government that actually represents a new one.

>every cop they need to use to police the cities is one less cop
I'm pretty sure it would be way worse for the establishment considering the demographics of the police and military. The only real way they may be able to maintain order is by hiring civilian groups like gangs (mongrel scoundrels by letting them robbing/looting in-exchange), and that bad considering how many gangs are present within the U.S. Even foreign 3rd parties seeking to benefit may start to get involved.
>rural regions
That is where the system has it's sights currently for more immigration, but possibly when a conflict arises as well. They may seek targets just as the rebels do. They may look at taking over transportation of goods, agriculture, or numerous key factories. Although, just with game-planning it's all speculation. I still think a "right leaning" victory is apparent, but it would need more than a victory. It shouldn't have to be such a struggle when radicalization is happening so fast, making propaganda and recruitment very appealing. Now is just not the right time for an insurgent movement, but maybe fairly soon. Who knows.
>Explain how one can overthrow the Regime without attacking its source.
I never asserted that. Eventually they will be attacked by someone. I'm just saying that just willy-nelly attacking some powerline without an actual game plan is folly. You will have no clue what groups will retain control or how long chaos will ensue.

I'm not trying to be demoralizing but more considerations need to be mentioned. Propaganda leading to consequent organization is more important right now, unless there is some badass (and based) crew that has it's plan all laid out that I'm not aware of. There are also many other targets besides the powergrid, not that the powergrid isn't weak already.
>>15502
>Except people here think that erosion of public trust in the system is enough to win the war.
No one thinks that.
What people think is that once the System is destabilized, then we can begin the next stage in Revolution; Organizing.

>Considering this is on a power-grid thread they probably think that one attack with no other efforts will be a decisive victory. Sorry. I don't buy it.
Neither do I. What people hope is that one attack will lead to others.
In case you were unaware, White Nationalists these days are a bunch of gossiping women. People are so afraid of meeting each other because everyone is a cia agent and everyone is a jew and everyone is a tranny and everyone is a homosexual.
So White patriots have foolishly put their trust in Stochastic terrorism as a means forward.
So be it. Neither you or I can change this idiotic perception among Third Positionists. We are chronically incapable of organizing and when we do, we tend to devote 80% of our energies in engaging in these faggoty little pissing contests with each other. Like women mercilessly gossiping about each other behind everyone else's back.
>Oy veh, so and so is not pure enough!
>Oy veh, 20 years ago, such and such dated a nigger!
>Oy veh, Jon Doe had a great grandfather who was in Special forces, he must be a fed!

Pathetic? Yes. Avoidable? No.

>We need more agreement on an order or it's just bread and circuses again after stabilization.
Not realistic. I agree that this would be ideal, but we simply lack the cohesiveness and organizational capabilities to coalesce around a coherent and unified set of political goals.
Please don't take this as an insult, but you are very new to this "movement." Believe me, I understand your frustrations. We all do. We are too unorganized. We are too weak.
You know, we've been trying to organize for decades and in 2017 we actually had a pretty good thing going. This will earn me a lot of hatred, but the Alt-right was a good thing. It was the beginning of White political organization. It was larger and wielded more potential influence than the organizations of Dr. Pierce and Howard Covington combined.
But it descended into petty infighting and faggotry because our movement is cursed with individuals who are too big for their boots and narcissistic backstabbers who all want to be the fuhrer. We have too many generals and not enough soldiers.
Oh and also, we're fucking cowards and a little heat from the (((media))) caused many so-called men to run for the hills the moment some whale was turned into a martyr. It really sickens me. I am disgusted with the cowardice of people who should know that we're the victims of the unspeakable crime of genocide by an evil government and monstrous parasites. The alt-right was a good thing and we destroyed it out of selfishness and fear.

>The only real way they may be able to maintain order is by hiring civilian groups like gangs
Yes. They're actually quite open about it.
If you can stomach listening to a literal NPR faggot for 45 minutes, I'd recommend listening to https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/
Find the episode "The Next American Genocide"
In this, this raging leftist faggot explains with tangible glee the prospect of highering literal criminal gangs to "wipe the floor with any White nationalist militias they came across."

This is actually a very influential podcast among the soy-left and should be taken seriously, despite the nasally bitch-voice of the speaker. I have found that the majority of the soy-left actually believes this. And he should also be taken seriously since he is actually quite well connected and so are they. Better than us.

>willy-nelly attacking some powerline without an actual game plan is folly.
I agree with you. The trouble is, as you pointed out, we lack the organizational capabilities of effective political movements like the PIRA, Hezbullah, or even of the soy-left.
I do not know how to create these organizations in the face of the dual problems of White fickleness and real fbi subversion. However, I have made threads detailing how groups like the PIRA and ETA operated.

>You will have no clue what groups will retain control or how long chaos will ensue.
I agree. However, if I had a choice, I'd rather a slim chance at victory on a somewhat fair playing field rather than the grim certainty of racial extinction which we face under the current System.
>>15510
checked! he's a question answerer

>rather a slim chance at victory on a somewhat fair playing field rather than the grim certainty of racial extinction which we face under the current System

I wonder if there is any data or science behind what whites should do at this point? Aside from just posting "fed posting" or the "lemming.jpg" memes. At this point a good portion of propaganda is justified (at-least in my mind) due to political and racial discontent mounting noticeable via polling and survey data.

Is there any data driven/proven ways to continue forward?
>>15436
>>Prophesy
Bump
>>15510
>It was the beginning of White political organization. It was larger and wielded more potential influence than the organizations of Dr. Pierce and Howard Covington combined.
At its peak, National Alliance had more than a million in its coffers.
The alt-right might have worked longer if so many of its high position figures had not been Zionists, Jews or faggots. One may say that it was even allowed to blossom to some extent, knowing full well that it was controlled.
So don't mourn the alt-right, it's dead, good, it was a starter.
>In this, this raging leftist faggot explains with tangible glee the prospect of highering literal criminal gangs to "wipe the floor with any White nationalist militias they came across."
Communists always recruit the scum of the earth for their awful deeds. Always.
>Hezbullah
Exists inside a shit hole "country" (prison) in a constant state of bombardment.
Whites in comparison have the good life.>>15510
>>15546
>checked
>data driven
Hello FBI agent #4586, we’re talking about our favorite game Minecraft in this thread, no one would actually do this in real life. Don’t be fooled by these LARP anons.
<We are a board of peace
Anyway. The best and most data driven way to affect change from here is to peacefully protest and stand up for what’s right. Beyond that, making sure that you are opposing moral decay in all facets of life and living as an upstanding citizen. Should our great nation eventually fall into a great state of turmoil and war, I think our experience playing Minecraft will really come in handy.
>>15546
>I wonder if there is any data or science behind what whites should do at this point?
>Is there any data driven/proven ways to continue forward?
I wish.
Such a thing as this has never happened before in all of human history. At least not to this degree. There have been many genocides throughout history. Peaceful and violent. And there has certainly been a fair amount of treason. However, the degree of the treason and the sheer scale of the genocide is astounding. I am an extremely well read person and yet I am aghast at the scale of this atrocity.

Some folks say that we should take clues from Yugoslavia. The logic is that that was am ethnic/racial war in a sort of first world state (Not a nation as nations are bound by common culture and blood). This is supported by authors like Thomas Chittum who fought in and wrote about the war.
I disagree though. The breakup of Yugoslavia was as much a rebellion of elites within Yugoslavia as an ethnic-war. There are no elites in the west who would defect from the cause of genocide.

Thus, I think that the best "case studies" are working class revolts like in Ireland/Northern Ireland, Spain, and possibly Corsica and Cyprus. I can't recommend third world conflicts because I do not believe that they will shed much light on our own situation.

>>15590
>At its peak, National Alliance had more than a million in its coffers.
I'd rather have a thousand men than a million dollars.

>(Hezbullah) Exists inside a shit hole "country"
Maybe so. Yet they've managed to defeat one of the most well funded military machines and the most brutal terrorist organizations on the planet. And I'm not talking about ISIS.
>>15594 I feel like a lot of the issue is because we can't come together and communicate. We have the internet at our fingertips but it is all so policed that any type of real collaboration or communication is all but pointless. If there were some form of communication we had available, it would make things much easier. ie: if/when the boogaloo happens, will any of us have the ability to actually communicate in a way that is not 100% interceptible? Im not an expert - actually, Im new to talking about minecraft. Mostly this was just a bump but I at least wanted to contribute something.
>>16739 IMO online chatrooms are the way to go. >Get a group of people who you know aren't glowniggers >Assemble on an open source chatroom platform ( I use Riot/Matrix, but use whatever you feel like). Make sure your room isn't open to public >In meatspace, forge friendships, go to the gun range together, (legally) horde weapons, get in shape, have a good time together >Kick out anyone who suggests illegal activities before the boogaloo starts, you're not useful to your race >When SHTF, you'll have a cohesive unit ready to go beat up nogs
I hope some madman deals a fatal blow to it and the lights go out. Industrial society is one of the biggest problems aside from Jewry. I know that the Order was planning to to poison water supplies and take down powerlines before ZOG killed them or threw them in jail.
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>>16742 "when the boogaloo starts" i understand why you would kick people out but to believe that it, the boogaloo, "will" happen is not good nor is it productive... its like saying "naaahhhh, someone else will do it" this was why tarrant was a big deal for the chans... in his very manifesto, he detailed that our collective inaction will be our downfall, someone has to be brave enough to risk and sacrifice everything to get the "game" started, someone has to be willing to do something, "why isnt anyone doing something, anything, wait... why cant i do something?" i know i will get called a fed poster or a glowie but honestly within the game of minecraft, i really do think a fews guys, 3-4, could start "playing" with power lines more often which will be a perfect start, as all we need is one little spark, one little event to prove just how effective we could be if we just decided to start somewhere small... not only that but there are countless areas where power lines are so vulnerable you could literally throw a balloon at it to sabotage it , then if caught just say to the admin of the minecraft server "sorry it was an accident", and even if they dont believe you, they can't do shit with no evidence, so the mods will just be in spectator mode around you but they cant really touch you until you do something obvious... either way, you cant expect others (especially among us) to start this game mode... or if you really refuse to do anything then fine, wait for that "someone else will surely be a bigger and braver man than i and start this" time but have fun knowing deep down inside you too are placid, just like everyone here too afraid to start something, anything... even i am scared but "there is no courage without fear". i know i came off a little kikish there but i really do mean that no one will start the minecraft game if we all simply expect someone else to do it
>>16855 It doesn't need to be organized. If anything it is better if it is less organized.
>>16877 2 men can accomplish a hell of a lot more than 1.
>>16855 >this was why tarrant lol muh manifesto the state of pol and its moist girls the game started a long time ago but that shit needs prep in case you didnt know kickers didnt wait for some random mad aussie to plan ahead to buildup
>>15210 >I'm only assuming that any successful attack will be blamed on momentary outages or some sort of natural disaster. Speaking of which what was all that stuff in Cali? (power outages, forest fires) What's going on there?
>>16855 >its like saying "naaahhhh, someone else will do it" I don't know risking jail or death is a pretty big deal.. People who are well fed, warm and comfortable have a bigger threshold to cross than those who have lived their entire lives in misery. Most people do not CHOOSE to engage in revolution, it's not a question of want, or ideology, but some combination of extreme emotional stress (rage, bitterness), and hopelessness.. So far - Brenton was a rich global drifter with no purpose or home, and he was confronted by the enormity of what's going on. Earnest looked forward to a bright future as a male nurse.. (though he was pretty based being the least motivated by circumstance) Crusius wrote "the future I have been preparing for does not exist". That Ernst guy (who shot the politician) in Germany has been in the "extreme right" for quite some time - and did not seem like he had much prospects, plus with all the hell in Germany from the muzzies... Revolution is in most cases not really a choice.. For the jews it is, but they don't take risks - they are evil rats, and act as a group..
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>>17060 >Speaking of which what was all that stuff in Cali? (power outages, forest fires) What's going on there? Power companies cut way back on trimming trees away from power lines because (a) trimming is expensive and (b) residents hate the trimming. Weather happens, trees catch fire, then structures. People die. California government extracts $billions from power company. Power companies cut power on windy days to (a) prevent fires and (b) punish residents and their government.
>>17062 Tarrant, Earnest, and Crusius were all actors engaging in antiwhite hoaxes/psyops, as were Breivik, Roof, Bowers, Manshaus, and Balliet (and McVeigh and Rudolph, if we go back to the nineties). Your whole comment now becomes moot. I do not know whether or not Ernst was a legitimate killer (and, going by the track record of obvious jewish psyops, likely not), but has there actually been a case of a legitimate WN attacker with real victims, not crisis actors and crocodile tears? Considering all these "attackers" are false flag actors, that makes the WN track record look even worse: all bark and no bite.
>>17090 >Everything is a psyop because I say so >Source; Dude, trust me >White nationalists are all bark and no bite <Oh really? Why do you say so? >Because all White nationalists who do fight back are mossadciafbihoaxes <And how do you know this? >Because I said so, that's why.
>>17090 This is Qoomer-tier "muh deep state" bullshit Do you really think nobody ever just snaps? What about apolitical mass killers, I take it they're psyops too because there is absolutely no way any individual ever just does things like that?
>>16742 >online chatrooms are the way to go It is even better if you find chats or plugins that have OMEMO. https://conversations.im/omemo/
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>>17120 In the current state of the world there's no reason for a man to die of natural causes.

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