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How do you feel about marijuana usage in a Nationa Socialist or White Ethnoste? Anonymous 11/24/2019 (Sun) 00:24:36 ID:718f46 No. 16027
How do you feel about marijuana usage in a NationakSocialist or White Ethnoste?
>>16027 Opposed.
>>16027 Strongly opposed.
What do you think was really in the gas chambers? They were recreational summer camp hot boxes for the skypes.
its not called "marry-jew-ana" for nothin. stay well away anon.
>>16027 Cannabis is the natural spiritual sacrament of the Aryan race. Anyone opposed to it is a Kike.
I oppose.
>>16055 I think marijuana is fine too but alcohol should be banned unironically.
>>16027 only acceptable for the elderly who are past the point of retirement. for young men and women it is purely a degenerative. it makes one content with their lot in life, and while it wont outright kill ambition, it will certainly limit the drive to accomplish ambition.
>>16107 It helps me focus on work, I work harder when I am high on cannabis.
>>16108 I can only answer that with my own experience. I spent a decade of my developing years getting high every day, and while I still surpassed my peers in school, I know for a fact I could have done better if I hadn't allowed myself to be distracted and content.
>>16111 trips of truth. i was about to say the same thing.
>>16111 >>16121 I still think it should be legal on a federal level.
>>16108 >It helps me focus on work, I work harder when I am high on cannabis. Working harder != working productively. Seriously, only an idiot would claim that they can accomplish more while high than they can sober. But it's the same deal with caffeine or any other dependence. Every addict thinks he's more productive on caffeine than he is off it, because whenever he doesn't have his daily fix he feels like ass and can't accomplish anything. But for the man who has pushed through the withdrawals for a month and come out the other side, there is simply no comparison. He can never go back to it, because he can now tell just how scatterbrained caffeine makes him relative to baseline, and how much of his focus he loses when consuming it.
>>16027 Marijuana is strongly degenerative so I think it should be banned. I have some friends who've had their lives ruined by it. Bright people with a future ahead of them have succumbed to this addiction. The jews want to legalize it to reduce the IQ of the population and make people more controllable. In fact, I think all drugs should be banned outside of hospitals and the police should strictly enforce this - heavy punishment for dealers and rehab for smokers
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>>16055 (Observed) This. Cannabis is a medicine and holy herb, capable of miraculous healing of the body and soul, and especially when used in ceremonial context phenomenal for actualizing the spirit. However like anything, when perverted, can be a poison, beware isolated concentrated cannabinoid concoctions divorced from the full spectrum. And don't let the jew fool you, we have an endocannabinoid system for a reason, we've evolved side by side with this plant for millennia. It can cure cancer, depression, atheism, and a whole host of other illnesses that the jew would otherwise be all to happy to have you suffer from or sell you pharmaceuticals for.
>>16027 I dispise the use of intoxicants in general but it can be no worse than the rotten fruit juice that people drink to escape from reality.
If alcohol is legal then marijuana should be. Hitler was very critical of alcohol and even seemingly spoke of prohibition being a moral good in MK, but I don't see it happening. Approved, personally opposed. Any alcohol or marijuana related crime should be still dealt with sternly, and social stigma should still surround users.
>>16218 Alcohol is the devil. Ruins families, lives, communities. Hitler was right about alcohol and tobacco.
>>16133 quite frankly anon there are only two logical stances to take on the legal status of drugs in a nation. I think it should be all or nothing. either you legalize all drugs, or you make all drugs illigal. drugs here being defined as psychoactive or otherwise significantly mind altering substances, and yes this could potentially extend to coffee, alcohol, cocaine, meth, and pharmaceuticals. for my part I think that all drugs should be legal and available across the board. my reasoning is that you make an honest public mockery of those who allow drugs to ruin their lives, you openly showcase the extreme dangers, right along side the cases where a given drug was used in a success story. consider for example the uses of morphine, essential in medicine, and potentially life destroying when privately abused. you ought to allow degenerates to destroy their lives, and for the more intelligent to learn from their experiences. consider it a form of passive eugenics.
>>16218 Both should be banned. Alcohol is one of the most degenerating substances on this planet and the fact that it gets a free-pass disgusts me. Right now it's one of the top-five leading causes of early deaths worldwide and I've seen enough typically normal people turn into retarded animals and whores after drinking that poison. >b-but Prohibition failed I argue that this is a result of proper steps not being taken to curtail alcohol usage. We cannot ban these things in a single stroke and expect it to be effective. If I was the Fuhrer of my country I'd wage a propaganda war against alcohol, tax, educate against it, etc and gradually turn public opinion against before banning it (if that would even have to be done if it was effective enough). To this day many Islamic countries ban alcohol and drugs, and while it certainly seeps in I'm sure, they are probably much better off in some respects due to it being harder to get a hold of.
>>16233 >you ought to allow degenerates to destroy their lives, and for the more intelligent to learn from their experiences. This is epitome of the atomized individual mindset. I used to say things like this until I realized that I would think very differently if it was a person I knew (a neighbor, family member, close friend, etc). To simply let people destroy themselves is a sign of societal decay and social disintegration, more "live and let live, that's just their choice" bullshit. People need to be guided and educated in order to control their lower selves. The masses need herded by superior individuals from among the same race, just like Hitler laid out in MK, just has any thinking man who has seen the need for hierarchy in society. Many people are simply weak-minded and susceptible to propaganda. They do not deserve to die because of this, instead they should be molded by the nationalist state and protected from their lowest animal self. We are National Socialists, not National Individualists (implying that this isn't an inherently contradictory term)
>>16236 well anon you wont find me arguing that the average normalnigger needs guidance and exposure to what makes for a wholesome life. that is all part and parcel with my idea. propaganda comes hand in hand with the legalization of all drugs. sure you CAN ruin you life and you wont even need to go through some shady nonwhite criminals to do it, but we can present you with case after case of how it all went horribly wrong. while you should allow the determined to ruin their own lives, you should then make martyrs of them ion the public eye. some people who use cocaine have used it to great effect in their professional careers, and that should be openly admitted and shown to the culture at large. that said I think those few cases are dwarfed by the sheer mass of people who's lives have been unequivocally ruined by the influence of cocaine and its addiction. these cases too should be admitted and shown to the culture at large. I put to you that drugs are neither inherently good or bad, but are often prone to severe misuse, and we stand no real chance of advancing their positive use if we set any outright bans.
The ban on cannabis is a ban on a natural resource (there are many uses of this plant.) Maybe smoke shops can be banned. Alcohol is just part of society and banning it just sounds absurd for many reasons. Many of you guys are honestly just embarrassing as fuck with this obsession of NSDAP and how Jew's like to falsely portray NSDAP.
I don't think that it should be outright banned, but those who use it recreationally should be shamed into quitting by their community. Marijuana lowers testosterone and IQ, and can make you totally comfortable with accomplishing absolutely nothing. I've experienced these negative effects firsthand.
>>16186 The fact that cannabis cures atheism is unironically why it is banned. Separate a man from God, and he can be enslaved by all manner of tricks.
>>16235 > Abrahamic genital mutilators ban alcohol > Therefore we should Get fucked nigger.
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>>16246 >The ban on cannabis is a ban on a natural resource This. Cannabis, also called weed, is known as such because it is capable of generating biomass at an incredible rate, and has both as fibers and oils a plethora of industrial uses. History lesson tiem. >In 1937 Cannabis Hemp was one of history's most widely used plants. Tincture of Cannabis was the basis for almost every patent medicine prior to the discovery of aspirin. Hemp was used for rope, twine, and cloth. Sailing ships were loaded with hemp. The word "canvas" is derived from "cannabis", because that's what canvas was. Sails were made of hemp because salt water deteriorated cotton. Old sails were made into wagon covers and ultimately original Levi's Jeans. And the pressed oil from hemp seeds was used for paints and varnishes. Everyone knew what hemp was. But nobody knew what marijuana was. >Basically, it came down to this. America in the 1900's saw two powerful rivals, agriculture and industry, faced off over several multi-billion dollar markets. When Rudolph Diesel produced his engine in 1896, he'd assumed it would run off of vegetable and seed oils, especially hemp, which is superior to petroleum. Just think about that for a second. A fuel that can be grown by our farmers that is superior to foreign oil. >Ok. So we have an elite group of special interests dominated by Du Pont petrochemical company and it's major financial backer and key political ally, Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Mellon was a banker who took over Gulf Oil Corporation. In 1913, Henry Ford opened his first auto assembly line, and Gulf Oil opened its first drive-in gas station. In 1919, with ethanol fuel poised to comptete with gasoline, Alchohol Prohibition descended on the nation. Lucky Mellon. When President Harding made him Secretary of the Treasury, he was considered the richest man in America. In the 1920's, Mellon arranged for his bank to loan his buddies as Du Pont money to take over General Motors. Du Pont had developed new gasoline additives and the sulfate and sulfite process that made trees into paper. >In the 1930's, Ford Motor Company operated a successful biomass fuel conversion plant using cellulose at Iron Mountain, Michigan. Ford engineers extracted methanol, charcoal fuel, tar, pitch ethyl-acetate and creosote from hemp. The same fundamental ingredients for industry were also being made from fossil fuels. >During the same period, Du Pont was developing cellophane, nylon, and dacron from from fossil fuels. Du Pont held the patents on many synthetics and became a leader in the development of paint, rayon, synthetic rubber, plastics, chemicals, photographic film, insecticides and agricultural chemicals. >From the Du Pont 1937 Annual Report we find a clue to what started to happen next: "The revenue raising power of government may be converted into an instrument for forcing acceptance of sudden new ideas of industrial and social reoganization". >Enter William Randolph Hearst. Hearst's company was a major consumer of the cheap tree-pulp paper that had replaced hemp paper in the late 19th century. The Hearst Corporation was also a major logging company, and produced Du Pont's chemical-drenched tree pulp paper, which yellowed and fell apart after a short time. Fueled by the advertising sold to the petrochemical industries, Hearst Newspapers were also known for their sensationalist stories. Hearst despised poor people, black people, chinese, hindus, and all other minorities. Most of all he hated Mexicans. Pancho Villa's cannabis-smoking troops had reclaimed some 800,000 acres of prime timberland from Hearst in the name of the mexican peasants. And all of the low-quality paper the company planned to make by deforesting it's vast timber holdings were in danger of being replaced by low-cost, high quality paper made from hemp. >Hearst had always supported any kind of prohibition, and now he wanted cannabis included in every anti-narcotics bill. Never mind that cannabis wasn't a narcotic. Facts weren't important. The important thing was to have it completely removed from society, doctors, and industry. >Around 1920 or so, a new word arose - "Marihuana". Through screaming headlines and horror stories,"marihuana" was blamed for murderous rampages by blacks and mexicans. Hearst continued to use his power of the press to impress on his readers the dangers of the "marihuana" plant. >When the Federal Bureau of Narcotics was formed in 1932, Mellon's nephew Harry Anslinger was appointed its head, a job in Mellon's treasury department that was created just for him. Treasury agents were beginning to operate on their own agenda. Deep in the throes of the depression, congress began to reexamine all federal agencies. Anslinger began to fear that his department was in danger of emasculation. Although worldwide, hemp was still big business, in 1935 the Treasury Department began secretly drafting a bill called The Marihuana Tax Act. [1/2]
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[2/2] >The Treasury Department's general counsul Herman Oliphant was put in charge of writing something that could get past both Congress and the Court disguised as a tax revenue bill. Congress wasn't all that interested in the matter, seeing as all the information they had to work with was what was provided to them by Anslinger. They deliberately collected horror stories on the evils of marihuana pulled primarily from the Hearst newspapers, called Anslinger's Gore Files. Crimes that had never happened at all were being attributed to marihuana >In 1937, Anslinger went before a poorly attended committee hearing and called for a total ban on marihuana. He stated under oath "This drug is entirely the monster Hyde, the harmful effects of which cannot be measured". Bureaucrats planned the hearings to avoid the discussion of the full House and presented the measure in the guise of a tax revenue bill brought to the six member House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Du Pont ally Robert Doughton of North Carolina. This bypassed the House without further hearings and passed it over to the Senate Finance Committee, controlled by another ally, Prentiss Brown of Michigan, where it was rubber stamped into law. Once on the books, Anslinger would "administer" the licensing process to make sure that no more commercial hemp was ever grown in the United States. Clinton Hesterm assistant general counsel for the Department of the Treasury, explained to the House Committee " The leading newspapers of the United States have recognized the seriousness of this problem and have advocated federal legislation to control.. marihuana...The marijuana cigarette is one of the most insidious of all forms of dope, largely because of the failure of the public to understand its fatal qualities" >At the last minute, a few pro-hemp witnesses showed up. Most of the confusion came from the using of the word "marihuana". Most people had no idea that "marihuana", merely a slang word taken from a drinking song celebrating Pancho Villa's victory, "La Cucaracha", was the same thing as cannabis hemp, a plant which had been an important crop since the founding of the country. Ralph Loziers of the National Oil Seed Institute showed up representing paint manufacturers and lubrication oil processors, and stated that hempseed was an essential commodity. Dr. William C. Woodward of the American Medical Association spoke in defense of cannabis medicines and in protest of the way the bill was handled. Woodward complained that there was no certain data that marihuana use had increased, and stated that if it had, the "newspaper exploitation of the habit had done more to increase it than anything else". Asked point blank if he thought federal legislation was necessary, he replied "I do not .. it is not a medical addiction that is involved." Woodward went on to criticize the way the word "marihuana" had been used to deliberately confuse the medical and industrial hemp communities. "In all you have heard here thus far, no mention has been made of any excessive use of the drug or its excessive distribution by any pharmacist. And yet the burden of this bill is placed heavily on the doctors and pharmacists of the country, and may I say very heavily - most heavily, possibly of all - on the farmers of this country... We can not understand yet ... why this bill should have been prepared in secret for two years without any initiative, even to the profession, that it was being prepared ... no medical man would identify this bill with a medicine until he read it through, because marijuana is not a drug... simply a name given cannabis." >Days later, Representative Fred Vinson of Kentucky was asked to summarize the AMA's position. He lied to the effect that the medical group's legislative counsul (Woodward) "Not only gave this measure full support, but also the approval from the AMA" >The act passed without a roll call vote. Now we can see why it was prepared in secret - passage of the Act put all hemp industries firmly under the control of the very special interests that most benefited from its repression over the years - prohibition police and bureaucrats working in collusion with the petrochemical companies, the timber companies, the alcohol and tobacco industries, the pharmaceutical drug companies, and today, the urine testing, property seizure, police and prison industries >In that same year, 1937, Du Pont filed its patent on Nylon, a synthetic fiber that took over many of the textile and cordage markets that would have gone to hemp. More than half the American cars on the road were built by GM, which guaranteed Du Pont a captive market for paints, varnishes, plastics, and rubber, all which could have been made from hemp. Furthermore, all GM cars would subsequently be designed to use tetra-ethyl leaded fuel exclusively, which contained additives that Du Pont manufactured. All competition from hemp had been outlawed http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/pot/blunderof37.html
>>16295 Using hemp for industrial purposes has nothing to do with marijuana and nigger weed culture. >giving a fuck about Panch Villa
>>16027 Marijuana makes me paranoid, and I'm 99% sure it causes brain damage in a lot of long term users. It should be legal but discouraged along with most other drugs
A plant should never be banned, even the coca plant has uses outside being concentrated into cocaine. Hemp in particular is especially useful for turning into paper, rope, and for eating its seeds. Its flowers by themselves are aromatic in a very unique way, and when burned without being directly inhaled can have a mild medicinal effect in the same way as tobacco. To directly smoke it should only be used on important occasions, when it is necessary, lest its usage spiral out of control.
>>16027 Everything in moderation is my answer. Degeneracy can be caused by many different substances. I would hope when we win, our leaders realize the mental/spiritual capabilities of our people need to be addressed, reshaped. But ((dude weed)) nigger culture should never be allowed. It only serves to glorify degenerate behavior.
>>16027 I think, just like alcohol, it is a pretty mild substance that would need no ban in the ethnostate. Reserve consequences for those can't moderate themselves and lack discipline, since that is the fear in the first place.
>>16027 I love how anons are acting so pious and looking down on weed smokers but it's not degenerate when they drink poisonous alcohol, collect japanese dolls, play video games and post "cool" anime pictures all day and eat cereal for dinner lol. Calm the fuck down we know you're degenerates.
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>>16296 Wow you really have a dumb nigger brain. It's not just an "industrial" resource it also a resource in general. God you are a dumb and cringe as fuck.
>>16324 t. nigger
>>16325 lol so you resort to banal trolling because your monkey brained "ideas" raging against ebil marijuana have been proven wrong many times in this very thread
>>16328 thanks for confirming that you're a nigger with brown skin in real life.
>>16329 Literally all you did was steal my insult because you are that unoriginal. You are the nigger.
>>16246 >>16027 Well put, we could use the rope from Hemp farms to hang pothead kikes.
>itt: niggerkikes trying to shill drugs Weed makes you stupid and dirty. I know because I see those consuming it irl. It's fucking disgusting. All of you shills get in the oven.
>>16322 OK, not everyone does any of that shit you nigger. I used to live in Colorado and used to smoke weed all day every day. I was also working for a big name tech company as a developer and my whole team smoked. We'd wake-n-bake, get high on our lunch break, and again after work. Our boss/PM would bring weed to work and smoke with us! We all thought it made us better coders, "more productive" and focused. Looking back we were retarded and couldn't have been more wrong. I quit smoking while I was there and the eye-opener was how scatter-brained and goofy everyone was during planning meetings. It was intolerable working sober with a bunch of high af retards and I had to leave that place post haste. See that's the thing about weed. It makes you delusional. Like a woman. Which is no surprise because you're inhaling feminine energy when you smoke the flowers - the female sex organ of the plant. It lowers T, hazes your clarity of thought, fucks up your short term memory, impairs decision making, and basically makes you retarded and dependent on it. I'd challenge any daily smoker to try quitting cold turkey for six months to a year and then see if they really want to start smoking/vaping/eating it again afterwards. Also I can't believe no one's said it yet.. Weed is for niggers.
>>16027 same views as AH regarding alcohol - allowed but not encouraged
>>16439 Yeah if you smoke it or consume it. We've made the point many times that cannabis is a useful plant.
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>>16186 >Terrence McKenna He blamed the herbal jew for his brain cancer. >>16292 It was banned in Mexico in the 1880s because it caused violence and psychosis. >>16270 >Behold the alcoholic animals, bemused with drink, the right to an immoderate use of which comes along with freedom. It is not for us and ours to walk that road. The peoplesof the GOYIM are bemused with alcoholic liquors; their youth has grown stupid on classicism and from early immorality, into which it has been inducted by our special agents - by tutors, lackeys, governesses in the houses of the wealthy, by clerks and others, by our women in the places of dissipation frequented by the GOYIM. In the number of these last I count also the so-called "society ladies," voluntary followers of the others in corruption and luxury. Protocols of Zion, 1:22
>>16498 agreed, id even go as far as banning advertisement or promotion of it as well as banning the selling or trading of it. if you want to do it then quietly in your own home and grown with your own hands
>>16027 >feel There's your problem. Drugs are degenerate and shit in general, particularly for recreation, just like tattoos and being an obese fat fuck, ever divorcing, ever fucking around without declaring marriage, dating instead of courting, faggotry, and all other vices like pacificism and anything aside from stoic lack of sentimentality towards problems of the day. Young men should be going to fucking war and killing things, not smoking some damn plant.
>>16549 Living under ZOG, they're better of smoking than fighting to expand Israel's borders.
>muh feels: a thread chew dick
>>16218 Alcohol was never banned in Natsoc Germany, neither was tobacco. There were public health campaigns that were somewhat against consuming them too much, though.
>>16681 cigarettes need to be illegal but not cigars.
>>16549 How is it bad when not used recreationally?
>>16688 >When used for medical purposes it has zero negative side effects Is that your argument?
Allow it but change society's values so any consumption outside of curious/moderate is shunned and the individual considered an addicted reprobate.
>>16688 How much non-recreational potential does it really have? CBD is borderline snake oil.
>>16688 The issue with weed is that it affects dopamine and serotonin levels equally. It creates a clear "dependency" problem, where smoking it makes you feel "good" (dopamine high), but coming off of it, you still have high "serotonin" levels, making you feel depressed and if you don't let it flush from your system over a week+, your building a dependency. It doesn't matter how often smoked, the first time will apply this effect. Additionally, it's a Cannabinoid, and something which is roughly 2x as powerful as the "human" created version in the Endocannabinoid System. This has the effect of releasing nearly 2x the amount of Dopamine and other byproducts you get in Climax- its about twice as potent as being a Coomer. Think of it like smoking once = cooming twice. Not to mention it also really affects hypothalamic function in a negative way: your T levels drop radically. (couple articles I grabbed, I had an image of this being broken down more informationally, I'll try to find it eventually.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6296360 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6090909 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5877694/
>>16027 Cannabis is the only vice I have left (and shit posting on the pols if that counts) going to be tough to let go but does the overman need supplementation to become his natural state?
No recreational drug use allowed
>>16186 based
>>16804 Adderall allegedly calms down people with ADHD could cannabis work a similar way? People frequently discuss being unmotivated from cannabis but I find the opposite. I read more, play more music and have got my 6 pack from being a daily cannabis user for the past 6 months. When I go off it I do get depressed but it goes away after a couple of weeks however my motivation never returns
>>17480 With all due respect Anon, I'm guessing you are a little bit younger. 20ish give or take. At your age weed and alcohol for that matter tend to loosen inhibitions. I remember being young, high as a kite, and bit drunk. Out at night and getting urge to stretch my legs, feeling full of energy, start running down the street just for the hell of it. When is the last time you saw a fat, drunk 40 year oldfag running down the street? Most of us here are not simply prudes telling you "Drugs are bad mmmkay?" We are speaking from the heart and from a place of experience and dare I say wisdom You can choose to heed advice or not. The choice is yours. Schlomo says "Its fine, it's legal, there's zero harm in it, Free shipping" Oldfag tells you "Hey really this shit is not OK" It's degeneracy and long term it's not going to be good for you. The short term gains do not out weigh the long term side effects. The boomer's went through this with cigarettes. Doctors were paid to say smoking is fine, it good for you in fact. This is history repeating Im guessing from the ADHD reference you have been diagnosed. I dont have much knowledge beyond the fact that your gen' seem to have epidemic with it. My gut says, get off the (((Adderall))) Why do you want to calm down? Take that energy put it into your 6 pack, or anything else that inspires you for that matter. Adderall....something about that name. Wasn't easy but 5th search found guess who? EVERY FUCKING TIME (((made by Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. (Hebrew: טבע תעשיות פרמצבטיות בע"))).
>>17504 I knew I would find posts itt that said what I wanted to say for me. Cheers fellow oldfag.
>>17480 I have a high pressure sales job where I make about 100K a year. I smoke all day everyday, it helps me focus and not get stressed out. Thankfully weed is going to be completely legal where I am on January 1, 2020.
>>17480 >ADHD Invented disease to begin with. >calms down Yeah, all things that stupefy and cloud your mind do that. >>17555 Degenerate. >where I am on January 1, 2020. That's even worse.
>>17504 >smoking is fine Yeah, my grandma smoked and got lung cancer. Who would have known? I mean it's not like this is the story of every single person that smokes and doesn't stop after the first few. She is still smoking cigarettes and will continue till she bites the dust.

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