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Minimal viable step Anonymous 12/26/2019 (Thu) 04:25:19 No. 19303
Talk to me, anon. Debate me. Spit on me if you want. It's so lonely. I'm suffocating. I know the truth, I can see the pattern, but what can be done besides affirming my sanity in the progressively marginal, narrow corners of the internet, as the end of my race approaches? I'd like to bet everything even on a small chance of dignity for my people, but I see the road littered with bones of my predecessors with the same ideas. With my knowledge growing, I arrive at better and better strategies, then I remember them already neutralized and the adversary having primed the populace to nip them in the bud. Some time ago, I was enamored with the project of charter cities and inclusive eugenic pseudo-religion based on common Indo-European legacy. Who could justify destruction of peaceful opt-in communities? Oh right, that's pattern-matched to "Völkisch" movement. The adversary was inoculated against this attack vector. Extrapolating, this will continue until I reach my limit of comprehensible complexity. It doesn't even matter if Jews truly have higher IQs or merely greater intrinsic motivation towards ethnocentric behavior, the result is the same: their best and brightest are working towards their dominance, and ours are working against us, like the naive open-minded tools they are. The loyalty of the tribe's elite is crucial, else there is no tribe. And we're not the elite, we're just too observant for our own good, and too bitter, and I know you guys will suspect me of being a Jew/pawn/whatever and we will not be able to talk productively, at best you'll make a few snarks to show me up. There are countless paths towards victory, but all rely on the opponent suddenly becoming incompetent at anticipating and stopping us. I don't see how we can make that happen. The above doesn't mean I have doubts that Askenazim do have higher average IQ. I know neuroscience, I thought a lot, it makes sense to me (yes I've seen the "debunking", it sucks, I can explain). I truly despaired when I understood one simple fact. See, had John von Neumann been born to a less assimilated family, had his father been a Rabbi instead of a banker, chances are we'd never have heard of him. Yet he'd still be superhumanly capable. That's not the fact that made me despair. That one is: 95% of my people don't understand the implication above. Do you? Oh, but you know, anon. If you talk to me, if you by some miracle share some truly effective novel idea and we try to coordinate efforts... Well. This is THE place where people like us are supposed to gather. It would be madness to leave it unattended. And so your information will be compromised. Would be nice to have something like... asymmetric cryptography for ideas, I guess? So that you don't have to worry if the other party plans to defect. A pipe dream, I know. %%posting here since 8kun is shitting itself%%
>>19303 I'll bite, because I love to ponder these things. >Extrapolating, this will continue until I reach my limit of comprehensible complexity. Your problem here is your starting conditions. You assume that the solution must have certain assumptions in order to be viable. What you have to do is change those conditions. Throw out the assumption that you can ever have an ethnostate, or ethnically pure movement. That option is no longer viable because, as you have intuited, it has been planned for in every contingency by your opponents. Similarly, you cannot solve this problem alone. White people saving themselves is no longer possible. You could say that by the 2000s, the option was being pulled from the deck. Now that it isn't an option, you have to plan accordingly. So from there, what do you extrapolate? >There are countless paths towards victory, but all rely on the opponent suddenly becoming incompetent at anticipating and stopping us. I don't see how we can make that happen. You go underground. Form small networks, or cells. You march through the institutions like our adversaries did. All you have to do is get enough people into academia who are on our side, and you can teach a single generation the opposite ideology which we are plagued with right now. A single generation immunized against this ideology is the cure. So why isn't anyone here planning for this? >See, had John von Neumann been born to a less assimilated family, had his father been a Rabbi instead of a banker, chances are we'd never have heard of him. Yet he'd still be superhumanly capable. I love that guy. He gives me an intellectual role model. >That's not the fact that made me despair. That one is: 95% of my people don't understand the implication above. Do you? You're saying that there are Von Neumanns out there who were assimilated into the "Jewish Hive Mind" and work to undermine us every day, at his level. I keep telling people on here that, but they want to believe that Jews are some cartoon villain, and refuse to consider the possibility of a true adversary. I'll tell you the truth: I don't mourn the end of the white race. Not because white people are bad, or because I don't like white people. I don't mourn your race's death because your race seems to lack the ability to save itself. In fact, if I did everything myself to save your race, do you know what I'd get? A punch in the face by some effeminate shit-eating white man who would gleefully tell the world that he wants his race to die. So why bother?
>>19303 Relax. That is the first step. If you understand the patterns then you should understand this was all inevitable. There are stars in the darkness, they just need time to brighten. Moves are being made and we will focus on ourselves. We will adapt and adopt as needed. This trial is a gift, it is the catalyst that ignites change. Our story is not ending, it is merely beginning; take a breath and think about what you can write in the pages.
>>19306 What is your background? I am very curious.
Not OP, but something to ponder while you wait for reply https://www.bitchute.com/video/e-H2akImAmw/ Perhaps this is not only what we deserve, but what we need.
>>19306 > What you have to do is change those conditions This is more or less isomorphic to the original problem. I'm open to great concessions by default, to the extent I'm frequently deemed traitor on /pol/-type places; even so, winning seems unrealistic. > A single generation immunized against this ideology is the cure. Yeah... I have a senior researcher in my facility literally named Ashkenazi, imagine me trying redpilling anyone there. Heck, half my lab is jewish. Problem is (simplifying), jews in academia are not that unpleasant. They just have tribal loyalty on top of personal ones (and it kicks into high gear at any threat perceived by another jew), and goys do not. So for a goy scientist (unless he's like me) any redpilling information is not neutral data point but an attack on his friends, since he remembers their reaction. This is all rationalized with great vigor and lots of pre-made argument and of course... Well. Academia is cucked and hostile to non-cucks. To put it bluntly, the adversary could infiltrate it because whiteys were projecting their own qualities on others. I think this is a one-way street. > You're saying that there are Von Neumanns out there who were assimilated into the "Jewish Hive Mind" and work to undermine us every day, at his level. Fucking thank you. Worse yet, I'm saying that this is the intended goal of Judean breeding program, with von Neumanns and Feynmanns of the world being a byproduct. We literally can't tell the size of this iceberg beneath Jewish network, because such people are bound to be better at conspiration than what's thought possible. Entire avenues of thought leading to this have been pruned, continuity severed. I'm only just making the first steps that should have been made in antiquity and built upon. People 300 years ago probably understood more about important sociology than we do now with our retarded statistical hypotheses testing and LARPing in lab coats. This is embarrassing. >I don't mourn your race's death Are you an Asian? I also wouldn't, were I one. From a self-interested POV, I'd rather be born a Kohen and try to guide NWO towards a less ugly implementation. But alas, I'm White and I have to deal with being treated like a pest, and with things I love being eradicated. I have only recognized myself as White through the realization of the hostility of the Jew.
>>19313 > I have only recognized myself as White through the realization of the hostility of the Jew. Same boat anon, however I still naively hope. Without hope and fear for my family, I would have taken drastic measures on a minecraft server awhile ago. Perhaps we will continue through the amish? I'm not a scientist not very bright either but I cant not reply to a brother in need. I hope you can find a reason to continue this possibly losing fight. Our cause is just and a righteous one. Be safe and please keep in touch here, we are all in the same boat, even our Asian frens.
The minimal viable step I could imagine was somehow utilizing Jews who are not completely irredeemable and who would side with us if given guarantees of not being persecuted on purely ethnic grounds. I know some who contributed greatly to my redpilling, e.g. people writing stuff such as > I don't see Nick [Fuentes] as desiring mass violence or persecution. He is interested in carving out space to discuss Jewish interests - as distinguishable from the modal American's interests, and also more specifically, Christian interests - and the interplay with our objectively disproportionate influence in the upmost echelons of wealth and power. That seems reasonable imo and it's an analysis that is not only tolerated but fetishized in other permutations It also seems that there were relatively many of them pre-WWII, coming from those who escaped the commune or felt no need for it due to personal ability (Fritz Haber is a good example, see also Association of German National Jews). A compromise can be made, theoretically. White society that is acutely aware of jewish tendencies can protect its interests non-violently, by nurturing independent elites and boycotting the more subversive strains such as banking cagal and Judaism, while accommodating and rewarding jews who prove themselves with honest signals (e.g. fighting in our wars voluntarily, contributing to our causes, opposing subversion). After we gain back our elite, jews stop being that much of a menace and can be allowed to live – with traditional values of Judaism assigned the same status as Nazism in modern culture, of course. But, like all other schemes, this requires an initial shift in power. Even the most decent jews are getting a way better deal from their co-ethnics now, so it's only reasonable of them to cooperate against us. We could offer them a choice if we had a credible threat of MAD. A biological weapon, perhaps.
The old strategies were easy to negate by virtue of their mediocrity. Who your intimidated by isn't as capable as you've assessed, they've just had disproportionately poor competition. Your rote and predictable response to this issue is common, but at least you're more open minded and forward thinking than most. The solution will not be reactionary in nature, it will come from its own agency.
>>19318 > rote and predictable No shit. Okay, so you've come to show me up. What about my last question? E.g. the problem that we can't have reliable communication. Even in real life, there's just not enough trust, and we're too spread to forgo any online stage, I think. At this point, I basically rely on some secret group having the fundamentals already done, but this doesn't seem to be the case. > they've just had disproportionately poor competition In comparison to what? I agree that at least the layer of subversion visible to me is not rocket science, it's just common sense. But it was apparently good enough to pathologize the same common sense in white populations, so now most of our people have debilitating cognitive blindspots. > The solution will not be reactionary in nature, it will come from its own agency. I don't see how the new agencies are not vulnerable to the sheer power differential, even if they debut with comparatively good tactics. I do wish for their success, of course.
>>19313 > I'm open to great concessions by default White people have this fault of arrogance in that they assume that they can solve everything on their own, even against the most impossible of odds. In fact, it's a badge of honor to your race to accept the shittiest deal and attempt to triumph from it. This is so deeply rooted that I think most whites just accept it as normal. This has to be recognized and amended. 70 years ago your leaders betrayed you and imported the third world, thereby ensuring that you lose control of your nation over time. You are now minorities in many of your cities due to generations of this. YOU CANNOT WIN ALONE. There is no possibility of this outcome any longer. All you can hope for is to make careful alliances with other races, other "identity groups" in such a way that it creates a mutually beneficial arrangement and diminishes the power of your present adversaries, the Democrats. Then you might have a chance, in 50 years, of securing your race's long-term interests. That is where you are at. That is the concession you must make. >To put it bluntly, the adversary could infiltrate it because whiteys were projecting their own qualities on others. I think this is a one-way street. The infiltration must be slow, over the span of decades, just like your adversaries did. They didn't just go out and "red-pill" (in the more punny sense) people, they moved into positions of power and reinforced themselves. To use your situation, you would form a cell with likeminded people, and slowly move yourselves into positions of power. Then you would reinforce each other so that you can start to hire and fire the people you want in your departments. A university like Berkley, communist icon that it is, could be taken for our side in less than 30 years and generate new waves of nationalists. You just have to be smart, form connections, move into power, and so on. >We literally can't tell the size of this iceberg beneath Jewish network, Then consider that they own all the banks, and have infinite resources to engineer any and all of their most radical fantasies. Yeah, I get it. But remember, Hitler played poker with the Jews and lost. He gambled that he could bring down their institutions and bet your future on it. I actually can't think of anything encouraging to say on this point. >Are you an Asian? >>19309 It's not really important. If I cared about identity that much I would be on facebook. I wish white people would stand up for themselves. It's pitiful what's happening.
>>19324 > All you can hope for is to make careful alliances with other races, other "identity groups" The problem is that, as it happens, we've been had. We are demonized and used as a symbol of common enemy for other identities to band against together, while the jew stays out of sight and sabotages them all. My idea about Indo-European core was basically to appeal to common ancestry with Pajeets and explain that globoschlomo will continue profiting off their miserable dog-eat-dog culture if they don't ally with us.I doubt they'll listen. And Muslims are next on the chopping block after us, but we've been pitted against each other (even above historical hostilities). Asians seem to believe they're out of it, or maybe they still imagine us the bigger competitor. I hope they'll wise up to the issue.
>>19303 >high Jew IQ I would not despair 1. their behavior always leads to manipulation and parasitic nepotism that always hinders sustainability and progress. 2. while Jewish Israelis are quite dumb, an exclusive group called Ashkenazim Jews are smarter. If we fine tuned categories and excluded certain white demographics our average test scores would increase. Despite this we still have a higher total number of smart people than Jews.
>>19324 Whites could take their countries back on their own if they didn't spend so much time trying to be friends with chinks spics and niggers.
>>19319 The exclusive communicative aspect is not important in the first phases of change, the open means we have now will be enough for laying the necessary foundation to facilitate later progress. Our Identity needs to stop being antagonistic and arrogant, as in we must approach our welfare without an emphasis of conflict. That is what I meant when I said we must focus on ourselves. The vast majority of our people in this movement will be a hinderance to the necessary readjustment, this thread is a good example. The deficiency of competence means that change will be spurred on by exceedingly rare individuals working in relative isolation in the beginning. >comparison The majority of non-ethnocentric Whites are undesirable in nearly all factors. Their diminishment will benefit us fundamentally in a few ways. Counter to your claim, these masses are more the result of dysgenia than from social engineering. As they decline, the environment will become more conducive towards the remainder. >solution By agency, I meant how it's used to describe an amount of free will and autonomy rather than an actual organization. Right now, we are far too reactionary and combatitive, dictated by external forces. The conditions that have been decreed are going to be here for a while, so as I said before, it will be necessary to adapt. Our image can change and it will have to. It is time to stop fighting minority status and embrace it. It is time to stop being the boogeyman and become another relatable, oppressed minority group able to be humanized. It is time to stop being united by superficial things like idealogy and anger and develop an organic culture that is relatively divorced from the past. I know I'm being vague here, so I will expound as requested where possible.
>>19324 It is important, but I appreciate your goodwill and am thankful for the common sense you have been injecting around the forum. I will respect your privacy.
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>>19303 dignity? bad and vague goal far right is winning, look at true finns polls, look at hu and pl, look at amish and other fanatical religious groups whites literally cannot lose, a massive conversion of europe to islam would bring with it the fall of humanitarian values preventing white countries from using machineguns to stop immigration, bosnians flipped to islam all at once from a heretical non trinitarian sect that is close to islam in beliefs, today, they are whiter in genetic haplofroups then staunchly resistant italians, spaniards or greeks, the have plety of blondes as well, much more then rest of balkans or south europe. chad/stacey whites get sexually selected by all and naturally gravitate towards each other, only 11% of wwhites racemix yes, the civility and prosperiy elements of civilization are going away but that is literally all that is holding us back let me tell you, as someone from balkans, the mental type of liberal smarty pants person like those that ran multietnic yugoslavia who were SO SURE IT CANT FAIL, those are same white democrat types... THEY FLIP ON A DIME The same racist democrats that were kkk in 1960 were antiracist by 1970 those flips happen your depression and concern is a result of you focusing on vague external problems instead of doing the boring and hard daily grind and challenges needed to build yourself up, coping that its all for nothing as the jew will pull you back down check your testosterone levels
>>19326 You're close to realizing what I have, but you have fear and reluctance where I see opportunity. Remember that it is true that you are demonized and used to rally other identity groups and races. However that itself is also an Achilles' heel, because it means that ingratiating yourself and building trust unravels the only tactic that is being used against you. I have said this before on other threads, other boards even, that the nigger hate threads, the obsession with Hitler and Jews is being used to empower them against you. Rather than acting in a way that allows you to be demonized, turn that obsession towards forging alliances with black nationalists, Muslims, Mexicans and so on. Show them that you have an agenda that is ultimately in their interests, and that you can be trusted, and they will spread that message to the "normies" in their respective groups. Then the long game that is being played will unravel. We actually started to see this happen during the last election with Candace Owens and other black e-celebrities undermining the democratic hold of the black vote. There's potential there, you just have to be smart and respectful, and honest with them. >>19327 Your pride prevents you from being humbled by the fact that Jews outsmarted you and are in the process of world domination while your race is receding from power. You could learn from this, if you accepted it. >>19335 There is no future where this could happen. Stop deluding yourself and recognize what pieces are on the chess board. >>19352 The difference between you and the OP is that you are a functional thinker and OP is an abstract thinker. Functional thinkers lack the ability to strategize, because they work on assumptions which create blind spots, their strength is in short-term goals. This thread is about strategizing for the long term.
>>19324 >Democrats What?How naive are you?The entire system is rigged against whites that is why we can't work with others because they are all benefiting temporarily with our collapse. Blacks keep being supported by the system. Asians have been developing an elitist nature where they have started to genuinely believe more and more that they are better than whites and will lie to benefit to their beliefs of superiority,all of this fueled by both propaganda and weebs with their asian worship. Muslims are constantly given free passes in everything they do in the West. Mutts are literally put on a pedestal where kikes will claim that they are superior to the pure races. And Jews rule the system. >The infiltration must be slow, over the span of decades, just like your adversaries did So when we are so overwhelmed by other races that we will be minorities in our nations? >To use your situation, you would form a cell with likeminded people, and slowly move yourselves into positions of power. Then you would reinforce each other so that you can start to hire and fire the people you want in your departments. That will only work in rural territories at best. >Then consider that they own all the banks, and have infinite resources to engineer any and all of their most radical fantasies. Yeah, I get it. But remember, Hitler played poker with the Jews and lost. He gambled that he could bring down their institutions and bet your future on it. It is difficult to win the game if the opponent has all the cards. >>19313 > I have only recognized myself as White through the realization of the hostility of the Jew. It is pretty sad when people will no longer recognize themselves by their ancient bloodlines and race unless they are pushed to do so by desperation.
>>19303 The only way to win is to show our enemies no mercy. Our numbers are few but we will use this to our advantage. Only the strongest, both mentally and physically, will survive. This will offer us social and genetic hardening like nothing else. We have freed ourselves from much of the sickness and plagues that we have suffered from historically. We will now harden our hearts through battle and free ourselves from the pussy mentality that is extreme altruism; sympathy for the alien. Those who do not fight will not live to see the end of this conflict. The coming age is one of bloodshed and brutality. Embrace it. Equip yourself with the finest weaponry and body armor. Get in shape and lift. Prepare to kill and be killed. Those who wish to see us dead will be awarded no clemency. They will be slaughtered to the last man and their corpses will be sent to the burn pits. Our holy bloodline will not be defiled. It will be protected and it will stand for another ten thousand years. Our race is as constant and sure as the deaths of those who would attempt to snuff us out. Hail victory!
>>19352 Not sure if yugoslavia is a good role model. I guess your more abstract point is that civilization that I wish to protect is inherently diseased and enabling of further rot, but its collapse can reset the game and enable the worthy parts to recoalesce in a more advantageous era. Maybe. Again, seems to me to rely on the enemy's passivity. As for T, I'll unironically check it out, thanks. But I'm confident that my reasoning is already pretty solid. Dignity is merely to say that bare survival is not my goal. I'd rather my people lose and die than live as emasculated, hollowed out mockeries of themselves, forever boosting the enemy's ego. >>19356 I (OP) agree in general. Blacks and Latinos and others have a place in the world where Whites can thrive. But in the extant global economy their interests are pitted against ours, which understandably drives many whites to unhelpful racism. And the biggest problem with Blacks that I see is that the American ideology of equality, when coupled with their obvious statistical inferiority in cognitively demanding fields, is used to destroy respect for truth, to teach people to defer to authority and thought policing. And seeing as they are offered spoils in the dismantling of white societies, it's hard to offer them a better deal that they'll believe in. An alliance with Asians is seemingly more doable in near term, since there is a number of them who suffer from the same "privilege" narrative. >>19357 Initially I didn't want to be a human at all. I'm White inasmuch as this will be grounds for not allowing me into transthuman future that I always wished to see. It's unfortunate that the system is dominated by paranoid psychopathic racist Semites who are also somehow extremely good at playing others, but that's what I have to deal with. >>19358 This is admirable aesthetically, but it's an archaic LARPing. And people who LARP are not heroes in my book, they're scared of reality which demands moves they can't comprehend easily. Knights all lay dead in the trenches of WWI. This was a long dysgenic story and we'd do well not to make one last self-sacrificial rush.
>>19357 >What?How naive are you? Democrats are a faction which is undermining this country. They are a priority threat. Your mistake is in assuming I meant that they are the only threat. Your other mistake is in assuming that the best strategy is to broaden your enemy and attack him in the least coordinated fashion (aka attack the Jews, rather than a singular target like the Democrats). >So when we are so overwhelmed by other races that we will be minorities in our nations? Blame your ancestors for that. Rather than try to nip the problem off at the base, your ancestors decided to LARP as Neonazis and Christian Fundamentalists, and wasted 70 years. You can either face the problem now, and solve it the long way, or be made extinct. >That will only work in rural territories at best. You aren't learning the lesson here. I'll remember to put flowers on your grave. >It is difficult to win the game if the opponent has all the cards. Or if you suddenly decide to attack Russia.
>>19303 >95% of my people don't understand the implication above. 95% of people will follow the orders of a 5% elite. Don't worry about percentages. A novel idea? An ethnovirus that kills everyone with Jewish genes.
>>19393 >Democrats are a faction which is undermining this country. They are a priority threat. Your mistake is in assuming I meant that they are the only threat. The priority threat would be the tech giants considering they control the flow of information,the democrats are laughing stock at this point only cuckservatives actually think they are threat. >Your other mistake is in assuming that the best strategy is to broaden your enemy and attack him in the least coordinated fashion (aka attack the Jews, rather than a singular target like the Democrats). I was always of the opinion of taking the out their control of information first,then make a few well placed attacks to force them to panic use that panic to infiltrate their institutions and use those elements to instigate more chaos,if the flow of information can't be secured first then it would be optimal to either discredit it entirely to give incentive for more alternative forms of information to be spread,if the elites tried to prop down their own then we would focus our efforts on taking down one at a time. >Blame your ancestors for that. Rather than try to nip the problem off at the base, your ancestors decided to LARP as Neonazis and Christian Fundamentalists So that is your new attempt at an argument?To attack someone's ancestors and btw >LARP as Neonazis This may have been one the most retarded sentences ever typed at this board. >You can either face the problem now, and solve it the long way, or be made extinct. Taking 50 years to fix it will still fuck us,so it is better to be more agressive. >You aren't learning the lesson here. I'll remember to put flowers on your grave. So poetic,the coward avoids the criticism again and tries to give a witty remark while he is at it. >Or if you suddenly decide to attack Russia. The Soviets would've attacked regardless,but i agree he shouldn't have attacked.But doesn't change the fact that they still held all the cards. >>19396 Some anon either on 8chan or 4chan was trying to develop something like that for africans.
>>19393 >itz da demonrats painful seeing this tripe here
>>19396 They will follow the orders of the elite regardless of this elite's ethnicity or allegiance. They already do. Virus is an insanely hard goal. It's not a minimal viable step, it's a final solution. A minimal step would be getting a lab set up in a non-discoverable way. Or better yet, a way to detect rats in real-life meetings.
>>19414 Jew-vision. Why didn't I think of that?! Imagine soldiers that could bust down doors and immediately spot jews with jew-goggles. Fascinating.
>>19367 >Knights all lay dead in the trenches of WWI. They died so that others would live. So that future generations may be inspired to follow in their footsteps and partake in holy warfare. There is no higher purpose or calling than to take up arms in defense of your blood and soil. Cracking the skulls of your enemies is the oldest tradition we have left. Embrace it fully. It is better to die for your folk than to live for yourself. This is not a LARP. Lift and buy war gear. Courage and honor will be our victory. Not blackpills and self pity.
>>19303 It's like how the kikes turned everyone into Communists in all but name - we just have to do the same but with more Nationalist leaning.
>>19416 No. Their predecessors did all that. Aristocrats in WWI were butchered like pigs, incapable of making a difference. This was an end to romantic warfare as it is commonly imagined by Nazis. Nowadays, sandniggers who are being butchered by Americans think like you. In WWII, the devastation was far greater. I've seen modern Germans. The war was a prohibitively expensive and fruitless sacrifice of that very volk. Time to move on.
>>19303 >Muh debunking of kike IQ sucks Look your premise, that there are more self-interested intelligent kikes guiding the nest of kike conspiracies than there are prospective intelligent whites on our side isn't borne out by the available data. If you've read the debunking you know that there are more whites with an IQ over 130 in the USA alone than there are kikes in totality. And these days most of those are on our side, just look at the distribution of STEM degrees by political affiliation, white STEM holders are now supermajority "rightwing", rural, and religious. And after the boomer generation there are essentially no generations, they split between two extremes and there is con singular concensus. I blame kike television for creating a singular concensus among boomers to begin with, nobody else had that as it was abandoned due to ever decreasing quality and the advent of the internet. inb4 rural America is cucked and dying Is it? There are 6,000 homicides of non-whites in rural America every year despite the number of white homicide victims not breaking 300 most years. In Clearfield Co PA they just found 34 dead niggers in the state forest, Section 8 housing developments are being burned down all over the state, there have been 17 murders outside of single gay bar in Eastern PA because somebody keeps drive by shooting the faggots and nobody can catch him. Kikes are also despise and I constantly here unaffiliated whties talking about civil war and a genocide of all muds and heebs. This is trend is present at every level of society excepting hte lowest 2% the scummers who are white niggers and anti-racists. The low class who are the only ones killing themselves with drugs are also the ones who vote left for gibs. Go to a rural area and actually start talking and listening to people you gutless faggot. You'll find you are in the majority at least in America I cannot speak for others.
Your analysis is basic because it doesn't focus on when and where the birthrates decline independent of genetic factors or when they are invariable regardless of environmental factors and thus indicate a genetic predisposition towards fecundity. Currently white “conservatives” have a birthrate of 2.7, white liberals 0.9, jews 0.8, hispanics 1.7, blacks 1.2, and “others” 1.3. The only demographic in any industrial nation which is breeding at or above replacement level are right wing whites in America. That is why they are so desperate to import more non-whites, without that importation by 2050 America would be 75% white again and the vast majority would be voting so "conservatively" that the GOP would not have been politically viable by the 80s. Similarly we see fecundity of shitskins tank when they are imported into Europe, after a single generation it is down to 1.6 which is little better than the native population as an aggregate. Certainly the cause seems to be hedonism and distraction of all types even abstract intellectual distractions we don't commonly consider hedonism. Remember that in the past most leisure activity was social and thus it would introduce young men and women with one another increasing the rate of contact between compatible mates. Remember than in the past society coerced them into breeding and caring for the offspring. Remember that in the past there was no option to engage in regular sexual activity(not counting sodomy ect) without the possibility of procreation. In the paleoenvironment selective pressure did not strongly apply to hedonism as it did not impinge upon fecundity; not only were ancillary distractions rare and expensive due to the material poverty but what distractions did exist where tied to familiar and community life which to an extent facilitated reproductive activity rather than interfere with it. http://gss.norc.org/get-the-data There are also other behavioral predispositions besides hedonism that play into reproductive behaviors and also that in the past children provided financial security and thus were not detrimental to the long term prosperity of the individual. Those "conservative" whites live in America where food is cheap, they live in rural areas were free distraction is plentiful, they have more STEM degrees than liberal whites both per capita and in total, they have more disposable income than liberal whites and thus could buy more distractions. Yet they are breeding while all others are not, why is that? Because most of them are the descendants of cruel, taciturn populations: Cavaliers, German Mercenaries exiled after the 30 years war, expats of all sorts ect. They are naturally brutal people with inherent predispositions towards an insular religiosity, clannishness, stocism, racism, and hatred of all sorts. They are the strong ones, they are ones who have reject modernity as a matter of course because it is eminently natural for them to do so, they cannot accept modernity no matter how much society demands them to do so. The use the fruits of modern technology be feel little interest in the behaviors associated with it. If it wasn't for the importation of hundreds of millions of shitskins this situation would have been a boon not a curse. Our race would be purged of the weak in a far more complete and merciless than any eugenics program could have managed, because natural selection via the voluntary suicide of all libtards, pussies, faggots, and hedonists would over generations have scoured their genes from the breeding population. And still is in the white rural areas, this division always existed in white populations but now it has effectively created too distinct populations with minimal gene transfer, this is the what the beginning speciation looks like.
We've seen bullshit like the libtards before, the Cathars were accepting of homosexuality, vice of all sorts, and even murder. They encouraged people not to breed, and thought that because the world was filthy and fallen nobody should have children and that no authority should control them because it was temporal, except for the Cathar Elect of course. Sound familiar? How many times has a libtard bitched to you about overpopulation and how you are selfish for bringing children into a world where they suffer, you are selfish for not adopting a little nignog because muh overpopulation, you are selfish for doing anything biologically adaptive and placing your family before shitskins you've never met. And when you point out that we could just stop feeding the shitskins and billions would die off in the first ten years they have no material rebuttal they and only sputter and stammer "W-W-WACIST!" This is the same sickness we as a race have always had. The Catholic Church organized the extermination of all adult Cathars under the request of France and the German states because these faggots were trying to destroy society. But they didn't purge enough it seems, the Cathars were never that big and the Inquisition was created to prevent another heresy of that sort. And it did, and it only cost 4,500 lives at most over an 800 year period to do it. The Inquisition essentially invented modern investigative law because they weren't a secular court looking for scapegoats to throw to the outraged mob. They were actually trying to stop heresy. But it was a mistake and yes any NatSoc plan of forcing these fags to act like humans would also be a mistake. For too long these parasites have survived off of our cultural largesse as we compelled them not to be maladaptive pieces of shit. We should just let all those who don't have a predisposition to survive die off, ZA VINAL ZOLUTION IV YOU VILL!
>>19419 How do you expect to win? Do you want to just roll over and beg to live? The only chance we have for victory is through war. We must try again and again until we are dead or victorious, knowing each time that we may not get another chance. There is no price that I’m unwilling to pay for the 14 words. Collateral damage doesn’t even matter. We’re at a point where none of the shiny stuff we have will matter if our gene pool is tainted or destroyed. Look at the vast wealth of Africa and how the niggers squander it. This is our future if you fuck around right now. Get angry. Get fit. Buy war gear. Faggot.
>>19422 > you know that there are more whites with an IQ over 130 in the USA alone than there are kikes in totality. And these days most of those are on our side, just look at the distribution of STEM degrees by political affiliation, white STEM holders are now supermajority "rightwing", rural, and religious. This is an embarrassingly hard cope on many levels. The distribution is not normal. 130 is nowhere near what's needed to make a systemic difference. «Right wing» means nothing these days (see OP). Most of true technical talent is concentrated on the coasts and specifically in Silicon Valley, which is, incidentally, why we're a bunch of nobodies on an obscure board that's unlikely to survive 2020 and not soapboxing from the most prominent platfroms in the world; these rural religious STEM lords you have imagined cannot coordinate for the life of them. Wanton murders of random gays and niggers (instead of creating a healthy community which naturally repels Jews) are a sign of desperation and are sure to alienate others. Television had less brainwashing power than modern social media, despite the latter's illusion of freedom. Most importantly, you are talking about a minority of whites who are predominantly male, atomized, confused and, as it happens, will abandon all their beliefs for a fleeting chance of securing a pussy, and pussy leans left. They are likely to die seeing their sons transition. This constituency, or its equivalent, has existed forever. The only thing that changed was hollowing out of the middle ground. >>19423 This would be more interesting if I didn't know that "white conservatives" normally include Haredi jews with ~5 children per. That's a lot. Whether or not the slow extinction of insane liberal jewry is compensating for this at all, I have doubts. Haredi are less decadent in exactly the way you prefer, but I don't expect them to be interested in popularizing this trait for Gentiles. I can't make heads or tails of this shit explorer at the moment, maybe I'll check the raw data later. That said, the numbers you quote appear to be bullshit, 0.9 is far lower than what Pew found. Conservatives breeding faster *is* a comparatively better option, of course. The question is, what's the attrition rate? Libs, jews, minorities do not convert, they are (more or less correctly) convinced that this is vital for them to erase you, but children of cuckservatives go left easily. 2.7 children means you can't afford attrition rates of more than 0.6 roughly speaking, because then it's back to below-replacement levels, effectively. And is there any noticeable proportion of your tacticurn badasses not on Facebook? Your speciation spiel is more LARPing. >>19424 Ah yes. The Cathars. Tell me, how do you think they even got popular in the first place? Here's Russell, for instance: «The cause of this wide diffusion of heresy was partly disappointment at the failure of the Crusades, but mainly moral disgust at the wealth and wickedness of the clergy. ... The tenets of the Cathari cannot be known with certainty, as we are entirely dependent on the testimony of their enemies.» Today the Cathedral is not the Church. Well, you don't need much misrepresentation because you are a cartoonish delusional NatSoc. The Catholic Church could do better by, you know, not letting Jews in and by being less of a corrupt pile of shit in the middle ages. >>19445 Kid, stop. You're too retarded to lecture me. This is less likely to work than a nigger rebellion. You're basically just power posing, but if being fit and angry was enough to deal with jews, they'd never have amounted to much. We know that conspiracies work. Fabian society fucked up half the West, neolibs succeeded later. This valorous WH40K shit, even when done by actual men and not little shit you, does not, as Rhodesia amply shows. We can't squander our remaining possibilities on delusional strategies. We don't have guarantees even with the best ones. > Collateral damage doesn’t even matter. We’re at a point where none of the shiny stuff we have will matter I don't care about material riches. I meant that modern Germans are a bunch of simple-minded cucks, their culture and the cream of their gene pool having fertilized cold Russian soil. It would take generations to rebuild, which they won't have. The guy above you at least bets on natural population growth. Maybe you'll do too, once your balls drop.
>>19423 That said, I must thank you for pointing out the fertility gap, it should win the whites some time for consolidation. at least. One whitepill a day.
>>19341 OP, I am bumping my response for your convenience whenever you return. I will add an addendum to that post regarding imageboards and online presence; it is of immediate expedience that these mediums are kept viable and open. Any actions that jeopardize this resource should be discouraged or sabotaged, regardless of origin or intention.
>>19449 >being this much of a faggot If I ever find you spewing this horse shit offline somewhere trying to convince our people not to fight I’m going to shoot you.
The obvious answer is that Whites can and must stand up for themselves and defeat the kikes and purge every last traitor off the face of this Earth. If you don't want to do that and you just want to spread blackpills and cry, then you're a massive faggot. You're supposed to be redpilling others rather than just crying on the internet like an SJW.
>>19399 >I was always of the opinion of taking the out their control of information first,then make a few well placed attacks to force them to panic use that panic to infiltrate their institutions and use those elements to instigate more chaos You're right that the Tech Giants are also a priority threat. My point in all of this was to take a nebulous target "The Jews" and instead replace it with concrete, high-priority targets which would make a big difference in the war, if we came together and fought them rather than spread ourselves too thin fighting a nebulous group. It looks like we have a similar idea here, just a slightly different strategy prioritization. >So that is your new attempt at an argument? I am trying to make the argument here that the way in which White Americans responded to the looming threats over the last hundred years has been very fruitless because they attacked the wrong targets and used an alienating strategy. My ultimate argument is to not make their mistake again. >This may have been one the most retarded sentences ever typed at this board. You're right, that it was inartfully written. The point remains the same though: Don't look to the nazis, neonazis, and christian fundamentalists for examples of how to win, because they lost utterly. >Taking 50 years to fix it will still fuck us,so it is better to be more agressive. That is what those neonazis thought in the '80s. You're making their mistake all over again. Why can't you see this? Fear? >So poetic You're trying to impress other people on the board again. You are a very insecure person and it shows. >>19402 You're full of anger and can't see clearly. >>19422 I don't want to sound like a black-pill but I can provide some insight here: -Those 130IQ whites you hold in reverence are people I have associated with for years, and while I don't hold anything against them personally, they lack... a certain spark... that would make them truly brilliant minds. Put another way, they are very good at being parts of the system, and tend to be bad at out-of-the-box thinking. -The truly brilliant people I have known, or have known about, are often Jews (and some Anglos, some Slavs, handful of Mediterraneans). I will say that Jews are gifted in the extremes, meaning that when they have a genius, it is a brilliant genius. That was the OP's point here. You guys keep underestimating the power of the Jews who are brilliant. >>19475 When you're angry like this, it usually means you lost the argument. >>19486 Hitler lost. Don't emulate a loser.
>>19475 You won't shoot anybody, you brainlet. You probably don't even have a gun. Certainly you'll never get to me even if I were to give you my address. Stop LARPing, this is serious. >>19502 I'd say that the problem is rather the lack of smart ethnocentric and redpilled Whites. John Conway was hardly any dumber than, say, Marvin Minsky, but the latter would be way more open to networking with his politically-minded co-ethnics.
>>19449 >This is an embarrassingly hard cope on many levels >proceeds to cope harder than any faggot has coped before >muh PEW PEW has become shit in the last 5 years and you know this, they are actively manipulating their own data and have openly admitted as much hence why their political forcasts have been trash. >why we're a bunch of nobodies on an obscure board that's unlikely to survive 2020 and not soapboxing from the most prominent platfroms in the world Bitch I'm all over those as well, I've been playing this game since 2006 when I was 21 and muh race realism was new and exciting to everybody, a predictive model that actually described the reality of the world. \ >Wanton murders of random gays and niggers (instead of creating a healthy community which naturally repels Jews So removing muds while never getting caught, beating up libtards and kikes, and maintaining control over your local community is bad? Newsflash to me, none of the local schools recognize Martin Lucifer Kang Jr Day for example, and everybody hates heebs. Seems like the society is working, fecund, and prosperous but I supposed since it isn't precisely how you like it then it must be shit right? >will abandon all their beliefs for a fleeting chance of securing a pussy, and pussy leans left. They are likely to die seeing their sons transition. Given that even the weaklings in urban areas aren't fucking as much this seems unlikely. I'd actually say the ease acquiring hedonistic distraction is givning them something else to do besides fugging. >This constituency, or its equivalent, has existed forever. The only thing that changed was hollowing out of the middle ground. Yes, that is what I pointed out. They have existed forever and they are growing in numbers while any who have the least bit of weakness go over to the libtard camp and are culled along with the rest. That's the point, this is like a diseaes phenomenon which destroys all who aren't totally immune. If it wasn't for the flood of mudmen into the country you'd already be witnessing this change. >"white conservatives" normally include Haredi jews with ~5 children per. That's a lot. Whether or not the slow extinction of insane liberal jewry is compensating for this at all If yoy bothered to read the data collection methodology you'd know that the GSS itself defines who is "conservative" by a matrix of responses which they have deliberately kept consistent since 1937. If you input liberal responses you are defined as more liberal on the axis. >Libs, jews, minorities do not convert, they are (more or less correctly) convinced that this is vital for them to erase you, but children of cuckservatives go left easily. 2.7 children means you can't afford attrition rates of more than 0.6 roughly speaking, because then it's back to below-replacement levels, effectively. But the conversion rate is less than 0.1 as detailed in GSS follow up data which shows that after the age of 25 95% of respondents have the same political affilation(as measured on the axis) as their parents. This is borne out buy other studies of twins adopted by different families and by studies of adopted children in general. Though you can coerce for the first 20 years of life or so after that 93% of them have the same politics as their biologic parents or their twin. Everything in you Phenotype seems to be 93% heritable including behavioral predispositions. >The cause of this wide diffusion of heresy was partly disappointment at the failure of the Crusades, but mainly moral disgust at the wealth and wickedness of the clergy Ha, men are weak and corruption is inevitable but I've heard this liberal line before and given that the Cathars bitched most about monks who by their nature didn't actually own the wealth or benefit from it due to their aesthetic mean I'm going to have to call bullshit. The issue with the church was the same the entire white race had and still has, empathy, a willingness to ignore problems unless they were pressing, and a willingness to give the benefit of the doubt. Luckiliy these traits are being selected against. I look forward to a day when all men are cruel maniacs, religious zealots without any mercy in their hearts driven ironically enough by material self interest. That is what seems to be arising in rural America. Everyone is cruel, taciturn, religious, and no longer cares about being "good" by an the defintions of this society. Many of them revel in their "monstrousness" and openly dicuss the genocide of billions. If they have any weakness it is that they are insulated and somewhat complacent, because they are immune to modernity many of them don't see its existential threat for what it is but the younger ones are more bloodthristy, probably because they are exposed to the pozz on the internet.
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We should be killing ourselves and moving to the next life. The Jew has won.
>>19702 > I've been playing this game since 2006 Why do you sound like such a newfag then? >So removing muds while never getting caught, beating up libtards and kikes, and maintaining control over your local community is bad? This is cancer. It's why you're losing and will ultimately go extinct. You think that the other races are enemies when they could be your allies and friends. >Given that even the weaklings in urban areas aren't fucking as much this seems unlikely They have instead become "incels" or, more correctly, people who want sex but can't get it and and release this emotion in bizarre ways which in contributes to a relative handful of women on social media being flooded with lonely male followers who give them money, gifts, social clout, and the ability to stir up trouble. Excellent examples: Chelsea Valkenburg, Rebecca Watson, Anita Sarkeesian, ext. The cure to this is to embrace homosexuality, and bisexuality. In other words, take the keys for sex away from these manipulative women and encourage men to have sex with each other. Then their pussy power will shrivel up and they will have no life as manipulative cunts any longer.
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>>19423 >Currently white “conservatives” have a birthrate of 2.7, white liberals 0.9, jews 0.8, hispanics 1.7, blacks 1.2, and “others” 1.3 And some people said this pic was a meme
>>19702 >If you input liberal responses you are defined as more liberal on the axis. Not an argument, I expect Haredi to be honestly conservative on most issues. > Everything in you Phenotype seems to be 93% heritable What bull. The most heritable thing, then, would be the Western European tendency to value your moral reputation in the face of strangers. Your theory makes little sense, significant leftward shift in 20th century wouldn't have happened through population changes. > I look forward to a day when all men are cruel maniacs, religious zealots without any mercy in their hearts driven ironically enough by material self interest. That is what seems to be arising in rural America. Everyone is cruel, taciturn, religious, and no longer cares about being "good" by an the defintions of this society. Many of them revel in their "monstrousness" and openly dicuss the genocide of billions. An interesting vision indeed. I don't trust it whatsoever, but we'll see if it serves as ultimate antidote to the jews or the vindication to anti-white propaganda, a final cause for genocide. Soyim will still outnumber your maniacs at the point where this becomes politically possible. >>19907 Please don't. At least try something clever if you do.
>>20740 >You think that the other races are enemies when they could be your allies and friends. This is patently false and the fact that you're incapable of understanding it means you're not worth engaging. You have no evidence to back this up just some weird claim that these people can become allies based off of nothing - literally nothing.
Ocala florida. Labor halls, soup kitchens, clothing pantries; take them over with there own kindness, buy a ware house bring vehicles, bring guns. Bend over and get fucked or take this bitch by her tits.
>>20773 Do you suppose them being used in a jewish plot is not evidence of them being open to alliances? Do you deny Japan-Germany cooperation? Niggers' violent hatred of jews? Or that China is the next probable target of jewish aggression? These are all natural causes for alliance. Faggots like you once insisted on intra-European wars for supremacy, even in the face of coming threat. Now we can hardly manage as a whole race.
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>>19303 im assuming the vast majority of whites are going to fade away op, not being defeatist, its just best to prepare for the worst case scenario, what we can do however is do what the jews did, live in secret underground and kindof recover our race over centuries and being very picky about who we keep in our inner circles. purging out any normies and npcs, selectively breeding and evolve at relative light speed compared to everyone else. by the way i made that meme haha, heres the latest version, message me if you want to talk about this stuff, its not over, this is just a fire forging us and condensing us into something even better. never lose hope fren
>>20740 >ad-hom comment >Don't remove muds, libtards, and kikes. Just try to be their friends. >and embrace homosexuality too. Wrong outlook. Sounds like CNN talking points.
>>20781 >00fascism is... i'd take boomers off the list for republocrats and centrists off the list for yellow shirt guy. >the "boomer" meme is inherently jewish d&c. >centrist by definition is midway between D and R
Here's an idea. I watched this trailer last night, a drama/romance tv series, was kind of surprised it featured such a hot romance between two Irish teens. It could be made into propaganda, "white women love white men" kind of thing. I don't have time to do it though, I'm working on another project and need to learn video editing skills anyway - which I'll do approx next month. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmjBAjsLMms One thing I've been thinking is that propaganda should be short and sweet, I've seen an endless amount of racialist speeches contrasted with media, motivation-video style, but they're too long and too verbal, too much theory or history and not enough juice, not enough "oomph". Maybe even try to push this stuff into the zoomer mediums like Snapchat hehe. I want to make a vid about Alexander the great, google his face reconstruction he looks like a WASP Chad.
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>>19313 You are omitting one very important vector in your assessment, that the high IQ Jews are genetically overspecialized and that they are dependent on very complex social and technological structures for survival. While I find your claims about 'genius' or creative Jews dubious at best (they are the ultimate NPC's), it's true that certain strains of the virus possess very high practical intelligence, combined with ruthless cunning. But in order for them to function at full capacity, they need the adequate terrain (social climate). Everything bad that was happening to our (white) societies over the past centuries was actually a carefully devised "terrain modification", creating the most optimal "Ph value" for the virus to thrive. It went on in anti-dialectical phases, removing one layer of our natural immunity at a time. Hitler wasn't dangerous for trying to get rid of them directly, he was dangerous because he changed the social climate into the one very unsuitable for them. That leaves them like fish on the dry, even without physically touching one of them. What we are witnessing today is just the most terminal stage of the disease. So, how to deal with this humanoid shaped HIV strain? The most radical, and most effective strategy would be aiming at a (prolonged) total collapse. They certainly have contingency planning for such a scenario as well, but the question is, for how long? They would preserve technological advantage for a while, but it would eventually be voided without the socio-economical structures needed for it's maintenance. Meaning that their next step would be trying to repair the 'hive' as quickly as possible, and at any cost. That, combined with their neurosis, would make them very reckless and prone to error. This would be utilized to our advantage. Once the factors which they have evolved to use a as competitive strategy are neutralized, they stop being a threat, at least temporarily. It is exactly the prolonged collapse scenario where inherent genetic qualities would play the greatest role, and whites would no longer be hindered by the disease. No longer would their best and brightest (which are as smart, if not smarter than the high IQ kikes) be systematically wiped out or indoctrinated to serve their enemies, the genetic dead-ends (cucks) would be culled, and whites, as the genetically most 'rounded-up', and most adaptable (biologically and creatively) race would come out on the top again. All that would remain is not to repeat the same mistakes in the new cycle. Meaning that the most optimal course of action that we should all focus on, is crashing the global society, with no survivors. But trying not to damage the ecosystem irrecoverably.
Another point. We should make lists of fashion retailers who advertise using European models only. And we could do the same for other goods if possible, though it may not really be necessary, e.g. sometimes I buy meat from a farm I know is staffed by White people, and farmers markets are often staffed by Whites, though sometimes not. The problem with buying clothes etc online is that... there are almost NO retailers who use only White models! But still. I recently paid significantly more for a backpack because the one I wanted from another website used nogs.
>>21256 Whites could get ZOG bankrupt if they "voted with their wallet" so to speak. A massive, well coordinated, simultaneous boycott campaign, combined with some stock market speculation could bring even their giants down. Well, they would start depending more and more on government backing, which would only increase the taxes, hurt the economy and accelerate the collapse.
>>21234 Why do I STILL see the high IQ jew myth being spread, here of all places. The study that showed Ashkenazi jews had an average IQ of around 115 was a completely unscientific study. They studied around 200 teenagers at a prestigious school and extrapolated that all Ashkenazi jews have a 115 IQ. This isn't anywhere close to being an unbiased study mainly because of the chosen sample population. If you took the average IQ of all the niggers that ever attended Oxford and thought all niggers were the same as that you'd end up thinking that Wakanda is only a few years away.
>>21295 >certain strains As in, some of them, not all of them, not them on the average. Just the highest IQ group, and the most dangerous one. Which undeniably exists and plans several steps ahead. Their intelligence functions like that of an insect or a computer program though, it's extremely linear. They are like those very tough NPC bosses in video games, but the ones you can eventually defeat with creative thinking. They are full of glitches which we can exploit. The first step is realization that you are not dealing with a human, but an engineered biological machine, a lab virus.
>>21294 Imagine how scared a Jew would be if you told him you wouldn't buy his products You might has well just said you're trying to genocide him
>>21332 Or stop using currency which he can manufacture at will out of thin air and manipulate by owning every central bank in the world? It would literally be anudda shoah.
>It's all futile goy! >Jews are super smart goy! >You must work with other races goy! >Someone actually posts how to solve the problem >Thread goes completely silent Top wew
>>21670 Which post offered a solution?
>>19367 >Blacks and Latinos and others have a place in the world where Whites can thrive. Very true, which is why we need to get them to focus on our common (((enemy))). >But in the extant global economy their interests are pitted against ours, which understandably drives many whites to unhelpful racism. The worst part is this is all based on a misunderstanding. Once we eliminate the Jew, THERE WILL BE NO "GLOBAL ECONOMY" AS WE KNOW IT. That whole thing is just a Jewish byproduct, what on earth makes anyone think it will continue to exist once we dismantle Jewish hegemony and Jewish economics? We honestly need to get over ourselves and unite against our common enemies that actually hold positions of power and are actively working against us. Fixing this mess won't be possible unless we do, all this other stuff is a distraction from the (((root))) of the problem.
>>21300 >>21234 Imagine actually believing this garbage. Imagine being so arrogant you think no one can be smarter then your race.
>>21823 >Imagine being so arrogant you think no one can be smarter then your race. >then your race what happens next, genius?

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