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Druid/pol/ the B.O.N.D. bunker Anonymous 06/18/2020 (Thu) 20:17:30 ID:f7badb No. 29430
Greetings one and all the last druid/pol/ thread has gone far beyond its bump limit and sinks towards its natural end. The cycle continues with our June 20th rite due this Saturday. All anons are welcome to discuss British news and politics in this thread alongside our usual esoteric discussions. Hope you're all well lads.
Somersetpooster here. I now hate this alias, along with /shit/ so I'm going to swap it for "Woddy", as in "Wodian", but less arrogant. I am new to the BOND, & I was very concerned when the last thread sunk away so fast, as soon as it was unpinned. Ty for letting me know that you lads are still going, I feel a little bit less insecure now... In order to fill out this post, I've been reading Bronze Age Mindset for the second time, & - deep in the night - I've been tucking into Odin's Gateways, as it was posted in the last thread. I will now stfu, & return to my rightful place as a lurker, goodbye. AVE DRVIDICVS & good night.
>>29432 Bonelad here, glad the pdf I posted is getting some use! Best of luck lad I will contribute the only good source of info on Baltic belief in English (that I know of), so that you may compare with other European faiths and learn. Also, a nice song about the gods and our ancestors. Seems a bit corny at times, but the guitar tone is warm and sounds good anyway.
Is anyone here at all familiar with the works of Michael Tsarion, particularly on his conception of the Druids and their history? He believes that the Irish Druids are the remnants of an Atlantean tradition, which spread to many parts of the ancient world, most notably Egypt, and it is with these Druids that post-‘flood’ ‘civilisation’ actually begins. Furthermore, he believes that the pharaoh Akhenaton and his ‘Atonist’ entourage is the source of all modern ‘evils’. They were the actual ‘Israelites’ of the bible. All secret societies, such as the illuminati, templars, masons, sabbatean frankists, etc, stem from this Egyptian faction. Most royal families of Europe have also been apparently infiltrated and corrupted by this ideology/bloodline. You can find more info on his many websites. This man is questionable for many reasons, but his deep analysis of certain organizations, their symbolism, such as the templar knights, is quite striking. If anyone is at all versed in any of these topics, I would very much like to read your takes. Particularly, his demonisation of the Templars made quite the impression on me, as this organization was always a source of inspiration over the years, perhaps mostly in regard to their aesthetic and martial heroics, more so than their actual ‘quality’, which is of course quite questionable if conspiracy theorists are to be heeded.
still wondering about the esoteric implications from >>28885 hope all is well with y'all.
>>29438 For me it's been snakes. I have been in my current area for a few years and have never seen any here. Now, I see one a week since a couple weeks ago. Rattlesakes, water snakes, etc. Always right in the middle of the path I'm on, but not aggressive. Just like the owlposter, I have bad feelings about what's happening in the US at the moment.
>>29444 >Non aggressive snakes <Non aggressive nigges That means you might start seeing more nigges of the non aggressive type. The media at least have been showing them like that
>>29438 I have felt it too, a dark ominous air that seems to be regarding the state of our nation. I suspect though, that it may be Black Magick at work, attempting to prevent the rise of the Black Sun, and subsequent awakening of the Wild Horde. As a lodge, I can only imagine that We have a greater sensitivity for such things. Perhaps it is simply the despair and negativity of the masses being cast throughout the Aether? Brother, you sound as though you have let the darkness touch you. Stand tall brother! Even if death should be your fate, it is not the end! I try to keep my thoughts and mind now on the light which seems to be in the future. Can you feel it? Just as though upon the other side of the horizon, threatening to break into a twilight, a Light of Our ancient home. Our victory is assured! Do not let the enemy break your spirit brother. I think that this current state must end. Though, that is not to say it is the end of our Nation. Death, to die, to become something new and better, is the Alchemical way. >>29444 >snake The snake has a lot of esoteric connections. I am not too familiar with much of it, as I am likely among the less knowledgeable of the lodge, however, I can say that there is a connection to the Ogdoad, as well as to Kundalini. There is, at the base of the spine for every Double Born, a coiled Serpent. A Phoenix in ash. Perhaps these are portents of this? I do not recall the connection to the Ogdoad off the top of my head, except that there, IIRC, is a snake-headed God or Goddess?
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Alright lads? Hope all's well? I missed most of last thread, just needed a break because I was getting cranky. I've been using the time to line up some dates once things start getting back to normal. I've been meaning to do it for a while but I guess current events have just spurred me on to think about my future. Finding a good woman and hopefully starting a family is one of the few things that is in my power to actually achieve. >>29432 Woddy lad, I've been in these threads since the beginning and I still don't feel qualified on many subjects but it doesn't stop me sperging or spouting off about stuff I know nothing about kek. Most of us are prettty chilled here I would say. Btw I think the reason the last thread sunk was because it's been bumplocked and not recently b/c I checked in here a couple of weeks ago or something and it was then. >I've been reading Bronze Age Mindset for the second time So it's worth reading then? I bought it for my normie brother and he seems quite taken with it. He's not read anything like it before. >>29433 Ta lad. Do you know any good sources for Slavic traditions like Russian? Not the modern revival, more like academic studies of the old religion and such.
>>29444 observed. has there been anything else the snakes have in common? common colorations, or mannerisms (aside from observing the NAP). >>29459 >black sun I fucking hope so. i'm tired of having to stay silent, and watch lessers burn that which my forefathers built. the city here recently removed a statue that had proudly stood downtown, and moved it into a museum so niggers could be "happy". the yankee and the California faggot invade my land, and bring their eternal disease with them. I only wanted to play vidya. >darkness I have always lived with a touch of pervading darkness. I don't know how to describe it. I started reading into Uncle A around the beginning of high school, and it seems like the intelligence I was gifted with has turned into a curse. A curse for knowing how the world truly is, and the maddening frustration at the fools who remain blind in our population. My dad an hero'ng several years back also has something to do with it. Believe it or not, I am generally a positive person in my day to day life. But I also listen to a lot of heaby metal. >black magick SS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OknyOYXFRc&t=362s
>>29430 Good on you lad. Rule Britannia. >>29432 Goodnight Woody. >>29434 I’m know of him but haven’t watched much of his stuff and can’t give you an opinion tbh. >>29459 >Perhaps it is simply the despair and negativity of the masses being cast throughout the Aether? That’s definitely part of it, and I believe one of the main goals of the Covid/riots one two. >the light which seems to be in the future. Definitely lad I feel it too.They overplayed their hand with the riots and irl normalfags even made the connection that it was very (((convenient))) timing as the lockdown was ending. >sneks Here’s a good video by Fortress of Lugh on the subject. https://youtube.com/watch?v=VFREu6l92Vk >>29465 >I've been using the time to line up some dates once things start getting back to normal. Well done, best of luck lad. >>29444 (observed) See the above YouTube link on snakes lad. >>29467 >My dad an hero'ng several years back also has something to do with it. Sorry for your loss lad. Here’s a 54 page pdf of Esoteric Hitlerist philosophy I found quite motivational. https://mega.nz/file/bfgFlJ4Y#jxOqWvovSuBGdKN2-cxfSCqvN9BCSmMLoZJuZ6J92J4 It has some dank artwork as well. Have a good ritual and Solstice tomorrow m80s.
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>>29430 >Black Sun as secret sun, on the Other Side >Black Sun as Polaris >Black Sun as Saturn Which do you prefer? I prefer Polaris. Technically, Secret Sun is being represented by either, but I think Polaris is the most accurate and likely, considering the pre-laurasian focus on Non-Planetary stars, especially the polestar around which all other stars revolve, in the sacred north. Bear Totemics also of note
>>29465 I don't really have anything on Slavic stuff, sorry lad. Only thing I can really think of is Survive the Jive's video on Slavic Paganism. >>29467 Other than the snakes blocking the middle of the trail, not really. I guess both the rattler and water snake had lighter patterns running on their backs. >>29468 Thanks for the video lad, I'll be sure to watch it!
>>29478 Thank you lad! I have a little bit of Slavic heritage (tfw American Euromutt of British and Baltic/Slav), will put this to good use)
>>29433 >pdf Appreciated. The Baltic region is one the Crusades heavily focused on to shove Christianity into people's homes. >music Cozy. >>29434 > He believes that the Irish Druids are the remnants of an Atlantean tradition Possible although more granular refinements have now pointed out that the druids rose in power against the ovates through a deep change in metaphysical teachings, taking on the principles of metempsychosis from the school of Pythagoras, but then also seem to have been made softer too with the appearance of a certain notion of tolerance that should be explored for further clarification. It is also worth sorting out what part of the Atlantean tradition would have been saved considering this civilization seemed to have known an "age of poz", a certain fall. This remains speculative nevertheless I would say. I also would not think the druids were the only ones to carry an older knowledge, as per the tales and ruins left in Sumer. >he believes that the pharaoh Akhenaton and his ‘Atonist’ entourage is the source of all modern ‘evils’. If atonism involved a form of unification of populations under one theocracy and favored miscegenation, and we know Egypt did go through such a cycle, then it could at least be said that it contained the same seeds of internal destruction. > They were the actual ‘Israelites’ of the bible. I suppose Tsarion is an American, thus risks are high that his writings are not very well thought on such matters, perhaps quite childish. It sounds like he took a look at the Old Testament and thought it to be reprehensible, violent and sick, and decided to run with this. It would be quite an erroneous appreciation of the material. >All secret societies, such as the illuminati, templars, masons, sabbatean frankists, etc, stem from this Egyptian faction. Perhaps. It would be hard to have a definitive opinion on this although all of these groups did share similar tenets. Up to a certain point. > Most royal families of Europe have also been apparently infiltrated and corrupted by this ideology/bloodline. That again reads like a sensationalist US book, all with the grotesque and cheap cover to attract readers. Is he a real and solid academic? >This man is questionable for many reasons I saw a few things already and it's very cringe inducing. I'm afraid someone will have to filter his works for I don't feel like spending much time on them. The Knight Order of the Temple covers a whole set of topics, it refers to different sub-groups, evolutions within such groups, varying relations with kings and the Roman Catholic Church, the banking system, etc. Let's see what he has to say about the Nazis and the Jews and we will have an already good idea of the man.
>>29438 >US sun set It must go down. >>29444 >sneks Me too. Discovered today, new to this, a whole nest with a big one. Might have to kill them because of pets. >>29459 >I suspect though, that it may be Black Magick at work, attempting to prevent the rise of the Black Sun You get it wrong lad. The US are a road block. If such a thing as the Black Sun as we know it now doth exist, its rise will mean the death of America as the ruinous entity, this foul Beast. Don't be sad, it would be a good omen. >>29465 >it's been bumplocked Twas.
>>29485 Thanks for the reply >This remains speculative nevertheless I would say. I also would not think the druids were the only ones to carry an older knowledge, as per the tales and ruins left in Sumer. I think it is likely that the timeline of history will continue to be pushed back, particularly those of the British Isles. It is possible that the druidic civilisation, which in Tsarion’s view, contained the purest and original remnant of Antediluvian “High Culture”, will be found to have preceded Sumer, Egypt, etc. These islands have been truly ravaged over the millennia, so it is hard to confirm this ancient history. >I suppose Tsarion is an American Funnily enough he is seemingly a full blooded Irishman, raised on the lore of the druids, and ancient myths. The sheer scope of his knowledge is insanely impressive, even if a lot of it is ‘irksome’. Check out this article, decent summary of his historical analysis, and answers the Jewish Question quite thoroughly - http://www.femaleilluminati.com/article-3.html >It sounds like he took a look at the Old Testament and thought it to be reprehensible, violent and sick It certainly is not as simplistic as this. From what I gather, he believes that the ‘Jews’ of the Old Testament, are in essence the expelled, Atonist monotheists of the Hyksos Dynasty, which ruled Egypt for some time. The Druidic Egyptians, expelled this foreign dynasty, setting the warpes precedent for the propaganda ridden ‘Exodus’ story. These were not liberated slaves led by some ‘Moses’, these were the expelled members of a ruling dynasty, and forerunners to the Jehovah/Satan worshiping ‘Israelites’, who then proliferated throughout the region. Their ideological descendants can be found in all secret societies, royal families, etc, again, all the usual suspects. This esoteric cult of Aton-Jehovah-Satan, now rules the world, in his view. Really, his intense analysis of symbolism, which manifests in pop culture, or even Royal Coats of Arms, is provocative, and quite convincing, at least to my mind. > Let's see what he has to say about the Nazis and the Jews and we will have an already good idea of the man. Haha indeed. I believe he does parrot the tired old myth that ‘Hitler was a Rothschild/British agent”, but don’t quote me on this. Tsarion is a wild figure, very confusing and elaborate. He often contradicts himself, but I don’t know if this is a product of his somewhat crazed personality, or deliberate misdirection and subversion, or simple confusion and genuine bias. Regardless, his scope of knowledge is wide, and I have learned an awful lot from the man. However, I always leave his study with a bad feeling in my gut, as if I have been intellectually violated. He cuts a knife through the idolisation of European history, of nationalism, and subsequent identity, I have long held. It hurts, but I can’t help but feel this is the pain of truth. Much more research is necessary.
>>29495 No, not this specifically. I assume it supports the idea that Aryan ‘high’ civilisation originates in the Middle East, and was then transplanted to the West and elsewhere. I believe Tsarion’s argument is that much of these ‘movements of culture’ did indeed occur in such a manner, from East-West, however, the ‘original’ Aryan culture can find its root in the British Isles, and earlier, the Atlantean civilisation. These Druidic survivors ‘carried the flame’ of Atlantis and then spread it to Egypt, Sumer, etc. These culture’s, including the so called ‘Aryan origin point’ of the Pontic Steppe (Crimea-Ukraine), then spread the embers of this swastika bearing culture to India, etc. However, the point Tsarion stresses, is that the ‘original’ migration of Aryan culture, was from West to East, from Britain/Northwestern Europe, to the Middle East.
>>29496 That's silly, all movement has been to Western Europe from Central Asia. There's even these guys to prove it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies At the last glacial maximum Indonesia was a landmass we now call Sundaland, and this is where Negrito (not to be confused with Negro) peoples originated. When it flooded, people as well flooded- into South Asia, displacing the Turkics and Chinese peoples into east and central Asia. Caucasians were then forced by Turkics like the Huns and by other Caucasians like the Persian tribes, into Eastern Europe. The Slavs came as well and pushed Caucasians even further west. Celts and Slavs split, Celts getting to France and Spain and UK first, followed by Germanics later. Neanderthal civilization may have started in Northern Europe, so maybe that's "Atlanteans".
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Glacial Max Sundaland, for reference
>>29497 Again, these migrations you describe are all accounted for under Tsarion’s theories, they are simply ‘later’ iterations and movements of an earlier, Antediluvian culture, and perhaps ‘race’. The archaeological, geological and geographical knowledge of this ‘before the flood’ period, characterised by an ill understood ‘ice age’, are lacking, or even purposely convoluted and hidden by the controlled ‘authorities’ on such matters, to conceal these truths of identity. Again, this is all my understanding of Tsarion’s views. However, such a conspiracy is reasonable. One simply has to look to those same ‘Aryan Mummies’, you mentioned, to see the lengths authorities will go to conceal history. Indeed, this is one example amongst countless instances of deliberate ‘covering up’ of history, especially that of the Aryan, ‘blue eyed’ variety, haha
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>>29500 You ever read Patrick Chouinard? Lost Race Of The Giants is on libgen, going to have to buy the other one soon. Good stuff. Peter Levenda has some good stuff on how the Appalachian Mound Civilization was likely Welsh in the first Sinister Forces book, btw
>>29501 Haven’t read these, cheers. Robert Sepehr youtube videos introduced me to a lot of these topics.
Did you have a good Solstice, lads? Mine was pretty decent. I had a small get together with some esoterically minded people on friday. We performed a small burning ritual, leaving behind what I wanted to leave behind and igniting the things that I want. On Saturday, I focused my ritual on the demonic entity Flereous. For the last few months, I've been practicing Demonolatry (which some interesting effects to say the least). I laid down some Stones in preparation for the ritual that I'd perform on Sunday. This morning I performed the Summer Solstice + New Moon ritual, invoking Flereous. I had some bodily effects, showing where my growth will occur in the coming period. Throughout this, i had some interesting tarot cards: Friday: Page of Wands that marked the passed period and the King of Swords that marks the coming period. Satuday: Ace of Cups. Sunday: The World.
>>29519 Careful mentioning bobby you might summon shizo.... >>29520 Performed my part of our 20th ritual no spoopy signs this time but as there was other people around unlike the last times I was alone I think that such things may be intended to be private.
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>>29520 I can't recommend these enough if you're doing Typhonian stuff. Shits been a wild ride for me this year. (All of these are on libgen btw, Nightside Of Eden was esp good, I'm on Outside The Circles Of Time atm)
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>>29520 Two from the beginning of OtCoT and one from end of NoE that I enjoyed.
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PRIMEVAL EUROPEAN DATURA-FUELED LYCANTHROPIC MYSTICISM (from Hallucinogens And Shamanism)
>>29433 thanks for this. I have long wondered about the Baltic beliefs. I know a bit about the actual crusade to stamp it out. >>29468 appreciate it, lad. it has been near a decade, but it never gets easier. thank you for the the Esoteric Hitler literature. stuff is always fascinating to dive into. >>29471 ah, was wondering if there was more connecting the sightings. we had a water snake on our little shore a few weeks back. he stayed still while we gawked. >>29487 as much as it pains me to say, but I completely agree. the downfall of current America would be a good thing. A resurrection of old America would be good, as well. euros don't understand the absolute beauty of America, and how it's a slightly different culture in each different region. there's a lot of good here, but also a lot of bad. this country, however, has no future on its current course. look at how they tear down even statues of Washington, and deface the monuments/memorials of the men who fought for this land. >>29520 I did, actually. even though this particular weekend is a hard one for me, it turned out alright. I ghosted out of work early, got a long nap, cleansed myself, and performed my private ritual. I spent the day at work listening to "Sun and Steel", and working out. the night ended quite well, as well, but that is not of anyone's business. I have not seen any signs today, but my resolve has seemed to have strengthened. I still get visited by an owl every evening, too.
Hope you're all well any thoughts on the religion of peace and tolerance incident the weekend?
Some IOTBW style hijinks from oop north too http://archive.is/hquHE
>>29494 The Northern hemisphere was hit hard, between Europe and N. America. >http://www.femaleilluminati.com/article-3.html >Why would anyone - especially those raised under strict moral codes of behavior (far more explicit and inviolable than those known to Christians) - commit evil acts against other races, foment or participate in assassinations, mass murder, anarchy, socialism and general mayhem? The commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill," comes from Mosaic Law obeyed by Jews centuries before the advent of Christianity. The absolute necessity of living a scrupulously moral life in order to please God and reach heaven is essential in Judaism not Christianity. <Hello. I'm Mr Tasrion and today I'll show you how I am totally clueless about Jews and typing cuck-tier bs. Jews solved this by making themselves the only humans on this planet. They also take their inspiration from the most ruthless paragraphs of the Old Testament, notably Deuteronomy. >And if Jews are compulsively interested in undermining Western culture, why do so many of them seek its benefits? <What is a host-destroying parasite? Can someone explain? >Why have so many Jews been helpful and friendly toward Gentiles? <I know a good Jewish friend. The concept of a liberal Jew who lives on the fringe of the moral codes of the group's entrails totally eludes him. Just as much as the why such Jews even exist, though it should be easy to understand when seeing how a boomer is so easily deceived. >Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc? Please. Their input is not that impressive overall and many times one can see how Jews often fail to restrain from revealing cultural codes that we find repulsive. >>The Jew is not everywhere a revolutionary. He is everywhere discontented with a society alien to him: that is natural and inevitable. But he does not exercise his power invariably, or even ordinarily, towards the oversetting of an established social order by which, incidentally, he often largely benefits...The Jew is not, in the history of Europe, the prime agent of revolution: quite the contrary - Hilaire Belloc (The Jews) <I have more quotes that prove how antisemitic are the people accusing the Jews of all ills. Doubling down on cuckdom. >For all the research out there, we are left with many puzzling questions about the Jewish role in the criminal history of the world. When we read most anti-Jewish researchers, can we verify everything they report? Like fucking yes, we can. Just as yesterday, it happens right before our eyes today so we can verify. It's the core of their community that is malevolent, the more you reach the periphery the more you meet vaguely agreeable Jews who just lower your sense of racial prejudice against them because you base your comprehension of their tribe on the few fringe (as peripheral) Jews you deal with everyday. More or less liberal, more or less integrated into society. Perhaps until you start asking some specific questions. >Druids and breastplates So he refers to one single case of a druid's body found with such a breastplate. Hardly conclusive. UPDATE: I was about to continue writing this reply based on the article linked above but it's gone. No regret, the little I read was already pure garbage. female illuminati ... ffs >>29526 Reads like pure fiction tbh (but still intriguing, might try to shove one or two of them in the neverending book list).
>>29618 I agree with many of your negative sentiments regarding Tsarion, but you really should look into this more deeply before forming these opinions. Indeed, it can be irksome reading Tsarion, but I believe it is worth it, if one has the ability to sift through the knowledge and extract what is necessary and valid, and leave the 'rest' behind. Your primary critique surrounds the Jewish Question. I believe Tsarion is about as hostile towards genuine, 'Talmudic Jewry', and its apparent secular manifestations, as just about anyone else out there. The trouble of course, lies in the age long question, 'what is a Jew'? This enigmatic race seemingly has an infinite number of ill defined tendrils springing up throughout the millennia, and an extremely unclear origin. Tsarion explores this question throughout his works, and I covered it earlier. As despicable and nasty as the beliefs of the highly religious, orthodox Jews and Rabbis certainly can be (simply look to popular /pol memes recording some random Israeli/Rabbi's comments towards 'the goyim'), are they truly the primary, or even a significant source of the world's woes? It seems not, and quite frankly, if anyone does think these crazed rabbis have any influence whatsoever, they are tricking themselves. However, their attitudes do offer a glimpse into the truly despicable nature of Judaism itself, which manifests more harmfully in more influential and esoteric, or even subliminal and secular communities. So then, we can turn to 'secular jews', or even 'normal religious jews' who are more or less assimilated into their various host cultures. These 'jews' (which is itself a ridiculous word to be calling these people, but I digress), certainly have a genetic and cultural disposition towards destructive, degenerate acts which rot their host cultures, this is obvious. This is likely due to their subconscious/racial affiliation with truly demonic and negative tendencies, to suggest that these people are consciously aware of, and active participants in the world conspiracy of the new world order is preposterous and unfounded. Are they truly at the absolute core of the problem facing the West today? No, but a great deal of them serve its horrific goals due to their inherent tendencies. Likewise, a great deal of them do not serve any agenda, subconsciously or otherwise, and are more or less 'normal people', or even good people, despite their heritage. Tsarion makes the excellent point, that is oft forgotten in NS or right wing circles, that Karl Marx absolutely despised the 'common jews', the highly religious, morally driven jews. Marx was of course inspired by the 'spirit of judaism', at least a highly subversive, Sabbatean-Frankist version of it, which he translated into a secular, digestible form, and yet he rightfully viewed 'normal jewry', as an obstacle to his communist concoction of spiritual annihilation. In essence, Tsarion makes the obvious point that while antisemitism is of course valid, one must develop a clear understanding of just what on earth a 'jew' actually is! The esoteric and highly Satanic version of Judaism, which came down through Akhanton and his Hyksos compatriots, through to the Gaonim, Templars, Sabbatean-Frankists, Marxists, European royal families, etc, is obviously highly differentiated from the 'common rabble' who call themselves jews, even though the common jew of course doesn't even comprehend what that word actually denotes, let alone any type of 'world conspiracy'.
>>29594 >A resurrection of old America would be good, as well. euros don't understand the absolute beauty of America, and how it's a slightly different culture in each different region. there's a lot of good here, but also a lot of bad. What is keeping you yanklands in America exactly? Other than sentimentality. Your country is in it's death spiral, your constitution is worth the paper it's written on and law and order is nothing but an anarch-tyranny choke hold on white people. When the country eventually collapses you won't get your ethnostate. More likely the rest of the world will come together to snuff you out. In the short term, if Trump wins again things are going to blow up like nothing you've ever seen. Same when Derek Chauvin is aquitted. If Biden wins it will probably take the wind out of the sails of the lunatics but you'll have other problems if he wins. Come back to Europe lads, or if you have kids at least get them acclimatized here. Americans moving back to Europe would strengthen the race and give it the vitality needed for survival. America can always be reconquered in the future but if whites lose the motherland it's over.
>>29622 There's actually natural resources and good soil in the US and Canada. You dumbfucks should be abandoning Europa so it can fully become Eurabia.
>>29622 I think if White Americans are shopping at walmart and living paycheck to paycheck in already cheap red states then they're far from getting passports and moving their families to a European country. Most White Americans could only dream about moving to Sweden/France/Italy/Switzerland/Canada/NZ/Australia one day yet people from poverty ridden 3rd world shitholes get free transportation and government/taxpayer aid to help them enjoy living in the most expensive places in the West that most White families could never even afford.
>>29623 >You dumbfucks should be abandoning Europa so it can fully become Eurabia. Kys faggot. >>29622 >What is keeping you yanklands in America exactly? Too many natural resources and nukes to give it all up to chinks or Mexicans. Then Europe will be permanently fucked too.
>>29629 It's too late, europoor, embrace Allah or die, the Turks are already the majority in every major city
>>29629 Don't even bother with such shit tier b8 lad
>>29620 >Your primary critique surrounds the Jewish Question. I believe Tsarion is about as hostile towards genuine, 'Talmudic Jewry', and its apparent secular manifestations, as just about anyone else out there. No, he's not. His questions and doubts are typical of people trying to find Jews excuses. My time is precious, so if someone who has supposedly observed them and studied their ways and Talmudic faith still writes such drivel, I think I have all the right reasons to save myself time and grief and not pay attention to him. >As despicable and nasty as the beliefs of the highly religious, orthodox Jews and Rabbis certainly can be (simply look to popular /pol memes recording some random Israeli/Rabbi's comments towards 'the goyim'), are they truly the primary, or even a significant source of the world's woes? They are literally the holders and heirs of the Jewish faith and culture, going as far as influencing even very liberal Jews. That is what Jews are that matters. Their mental-view of the world is based on their instincts which are produced by their genetic make up in a large part. Rabbis are wise not to openly pull the strings, but everything front Jews (left or right) have been doing against us is 100% in accordance with rabbinic teachings. They do not want to simply isolate themselves from the rest of the world, as some are led to believe with the whole ghetto narrative. They maintain ghettos to survive inside the host nation, only sending "agents" outside to interact and subvert the host people. The core is what maintains and regenerates those militant agents. If the core is not destroyed, the Jewish community is not weakened. The core awakes in each Jew, to varying degrees, their true potential as destroyers of nations. You will never see a Jew who understands and accepts that he has to remove himself from the equation to allow Whites to live properly. >So then, we can turn to 'secular jews', or even 'normal religious jews' who are more or less assimilated into their various host cultures. This is extremely naive. The moment the Jewish community will be threatened because we have to attack the rabbis and the active Jewish agents who operate in politics, finance, IT, classic industries, entertainment, culture, etc., is the moment these Jews will regroup closer to the core. And as you'll have to exterminate those rabbis and the agents who undermine the host nations because it is their nature, you'll trigger in them untamed torrents of hatred against Whites. So within their community, the radical ones will tell the liberal ones "see, we told you all these times, how the goyim cannot be trusted, they want to destroy us, they hate us, but you didn't listen. Now you see and you should stay quiet." Their cultural hatred of Egypt, Babylon, Greece and Rome is shared by all of them. >These 'jews' (which is itself a ridiculous word to be calling these people, but I digress) It is nothing ridiculous. They are genetic Jews nevertheless, are still encouraged to avoid intermarrying although, yes, it does happen more and more and should be seen as disgusting and insulting. This happens in greater quantities when they feel secure, in control and at ease. Their more liberal elements spread their wretched genetics and debase the blood of Whites who mix with them. >This is likely due to their subconscious/racial affiliation with truly demonic and negative tendencies, to suggest that these people are consciously aware of, and active participants in the world conspiracy of the new world order is preposterous and unfounded. Are they truly at the absolute core of the problem facing the West today? No, but a great deal of them serve its horrific goals due to their inherent tendencies. Likewise, a great deal of them do not serve any agenda, subconsciously or otherwise, and are more or less 'normal people', or even good people, despite their heritage. They still are a problem. One could exterminate the most obvious targets (and that's a lot of them) and then force the rest into another country. As I said above, they would hate us all day long and would simply bid their time to destroy us again. They'd use the same tricks, update their religion, add new tales on top of Esther, about the eternal antisemitism of their enemies and how Whites should be exterminated, etc. So this is why I say that if we get the chance, one day, to strike well and hurt them entirely so they could never hide anywhere, then we must finish the job and get rid of them all forever and kill all those who would try to stop us, regardless of their age or race!
>Tsarion makes the excellent point, that is oft forgotten in NS or right wing circles, that Karl Marx absolutely despised the 'common jews', the highly religious, morally driven jews. Marx was of course inspired by the 'spirit of judaism', at least a highly subversive, Sabbatean-Frankist version of it, which he translated into a secular, digestible form, and yet he rightfully viewed 'normal jewry', as an obstacle to his communist concoction of spiritual annihilation. Should we even care? Jews disagreeing, Jews disliking each other or even hating each other sometimes is absolutely nothing new. But when Jews become potent, whether they do it on purpose or not, they always undermine other peoples and work for theirs, even if they believe they're doing what would finally prove how good they are to the rest of the world. Besides, you should have taken a better example than effin Mordecai! This lazy liar was very close to Rothschild. Beyond this, are you going to side with some Jews because they were critical of their own community, in part of whole? That's such cuckoldry! >In essence, Tsarion makes the obvious point that while antisemitism is of course valid, one must develop a clear understanding of just what on earth a 'jew' actually is! That looks more like an attempt to confuse the goyim so Jews will always come on top. Whatever the origins and former names. We can judge them on what they've been doing during the last two millennia and that alone is more than enough of a mountain of evidence to know what to do with them. >The esoteric and highly Satanic version of Judaism What.. That's so messed up. Well, ok, you're probably some kind of Christian or ex-Christian. What kind of Aryan White man would even use the adjective Satanic? That's the most pathetic kind of libel one could throw at Jews. Also, nice attempt at implying there's a good Judaism. You are certainly proving the waste that Tsarion's work is all about. >Templars There have been all sorts of Templars and the best ones were getting very based but had put themselves in a predicament which they had not forethought enough about. >obviously highly differentiated from the 'common rabble' who call themselves jews That is as nonsensical as it can get. I've met enough lowly ones who have exactly the same attributes as the big ones, from genetics to behavior. Active Jews of any level are all acting according the same objective: the well being of their community against ours. Even if the 1% top Jews were "true" Jews or something else, which is a completely silly notion, you should be reminded that the blood libel is not a fantasy. It's based on facts and the rabbis were at it. So throwing "Satanic" parties with suspicions of adenochrome drinks and child sacrifice is hardly divorced from the activities of the religious core. Even if the Jewish elites were secretly planning on sacrificing the rest of the Jewish population, it would not change anything to how this same population behaves. There lies the problem with scribblers who are too obsessed about their grand and absurd theories. They needlessly complicate things, ignore the reality to have it bend to their own warped senses. It's that or they do it on purpose, perfectly aware of the part they play in this cycle. One way or another, their produce is poisonous.
>>29622 >More likely the rest of the world will come together to snuff you out. Same could be said of Europe. Have you actually considered how many Whites there are in North America and in Europe? Oh sure, more Whites in Europe against mud peoples is good, it would definitely allow us to win and the Whites moving back into Europe would obviously be doing this for racial reasons. But that will never happen. Don't be an idiot.
>>29625 And they get free healthcare too.
>>29630 >It's too late, europoor, embrace Allah or die, the Turks are already the majority in every major city Turks are mostly found in Germany. Each EU country has ethnicities relative to its colonial past mostly. Also Allah is gay and loves to fuck goats when he's not sucking on Jewish dicks.
>>29649 >>29651 Nothing you mention contradicts anything I have said, in respect to my summary of Tsarion or my own beliefs. But you still seem confused and hostile, again, primarily due to this Jewish Question. Your hostility towards them is commendable and worthy of validation, I simply relate a clearer and deeper understanding of what constitutes Judaism and its innumerable manifestations, the reality is infinitely more complex than your attempts to simplify these matters. At the same time, your bulldog mentality, is absolutely useful in the struggle, but it simply does not capture the truth. But does this make your attitude invalid? Absolutely not, after all, the SA trooper smashing windows during 'Kristallnacht' assuredly did not understand the esoteric history of his Judaic enemy, he simply knew they were "bad", and carried out his good work. This simplistic approach is undoubtedly suitable for the majority of individuals. However, I do believe that a deeper, more balanced understanding of the issue, one of which being presented by Tsarion, is useful for certain people possessed of a certain mindset. So yes, nothing you said contradicts my points in the previous post, but perhaps you think they do? I will still address some issues. >Beyond this, are you going to side with some Jews because they were critical of their own community, in part of whole? That's such cuckoldry! No, their religious tradition must be eradicated in its entirety, because of the inherent degeneracy at its core, the work of the Third Reich must be completed. All your other qualms regarding secular jews, normal jews, rabbis, etc, are explained in my previous post. In short, there is a reason why innumerable genetic Jews served in many institutions of the Third Reich, they sought to serve, and they were allowed to. >That's so messed up. Well, ok, you're probably some kind of Christian or ex-Christian. What kind of Aryan White man would even use the adjective Satanic? No, this is simply a relation of Tsarion's use of the word Satanic, as well as a long established, albeit simplistic understanding of the word. Furthermore, the equation of Yahweh-Jehovah, with the primordial 'Satan' figure which manifests in all world cultures, that being the 'dark adversary', is a common one. Your confusion is understandable, as this word is indeed associated with foolish degraded Christians and others infected with the Abrahamic virus. >Also, nice attempt at implying there's a good Judaism. You need to either reread my previous post, or reread Tsarion's article, which I understand you didn't even finish because of your emotional distaste with it... >There lies the problem with scribblers who are too obsessed about their grand and absurd theories. They needlessly complicate things I understand your hostility with these intricate theories, I too find it a 'rabbit hole' of sorts, and it is not fit at all for most people, again, think of the SA trooper doing his diligent work, oblivious to the occult beliefs held by certain echelons of the National Socialist party. However, this knowledge is necessary for the few, and there is no sense in dismissing its validity, without even understanding it or researching it for yourself!
Lots of UFO sightings again, you think Base211 is active?
>>29672 Unknown, I've been more concerned with the stab happy darkies all over the place.
>Nothing you mention contradicts anything I have said, in respect to my summary of Tsarion or my own beliefs. But you still seem confused and hostile, again, primarily due to this Jewish Question. I'm hostile against people who bring confusion about a rather simple question since it blurs our vision of the enemy. Looking for mythical "true Jew" that would be at the top of the community, leading from behind the shadows or just being themselves and pretending belonging to a community they are usually said to belong to and often cited as major Jews, is absurd to the highest degree. > I simply relate a clearer and deeper understanding of what constitutes Judaism and its innumerable manifestations, the reality is infinitely more complex than your attempts to simplify these matters. It does not need to made more complex. You merely have Jews who obey their instincts and cultures codes with more or less zeal, some of them very distantiated from these values but still carrying this blood nevertheless. It would not be the first time that grand children who carry Jewish blood, in seeking a clearer and stronger identity, return to a more religious way of life than their very liberal parents. >However, I do believe that a deeper, more balanced understanding of the issue, one of which being presented by Tsarion, is useful for certain people possessed of a certain mindset. I disagree. It's smoke screens by a boomer with silly theories and perhaps an agenda, or carrying unwittingly the age old influence of darker incursions in our old religions and cultures, all of which led us to being weak. There is no gain, absolutely none at all, in trying to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to kikes. It is even infuriating that we, Aryans, should even make one effort as if we were to prove something, in being supposedly objective in our juddgement of this miserable race. I'm telling you, I don't give a fuck about the innocent Jews. I see the blood, the blight, the threat. >So yes, nothing you said contradicts my points in the previous post, but perhaps you think they do? It is not about your points but about the text I managed to read from Tsarion's article before I was unable to load the page any longer. However, my belief is that such theories make us weak. I couldn't care less if there was some big esoteric bad monster that lived on the fringes of mental space and manipulated 99.99% of Jews or "Jews" or habiru. They are the enemy. Period. You think you teach me something new about the other world's forces? I see them influencing my life everyday as I get closer to what I was meant to be down here. Mercy is not a word I will accept. It has been a bane for millennia. >In short, there is a reason why innumerable genetic Jews served in many institutions of the Third Reich, they sought to serve, and they were allowed to. Don't push it. There were not "innumerable genetic Jews". Many were kept wherre they were because they were manageable, docile and useful. In the end, keeping genetic Jews close to us is a mistake. Again, it's about the blood. Are you a genetic Jew? Because you seem to have a great interest in proving that a genetic Jew without the culture or religion is a perfectly acceptable individual, completely ignoring that blood comes first and culture and religion are the consequence of the blood. They have produced this specific culture and this specific religion and its offshots because this is what they fundamentally are. Liberal Jews are merely behavioural Jews with deactivated instincts, anomalies to their own kin, freaks in their own way, unfit to live amongst us and unfit to live as typical Jews, but still carrying with them what can restart their insidious race.
>No, this is simply a relation of Tsarion's use of the word Satanic, as well as a long established, albeit simplistic understanding of the word. Using this word requires accepting its Abrahamic definition and recognizing its truth and existence based on their books. It is made worse by the fact that reading the Bible with care for example, one can see how Satan is an easy target of libel, a convenient scapegoat. >Furthermore, the equation of Yahweh-Jehovah, with the primordial 'Satan' figure which manifests in all world cultures, that being the 'dark adversary', is a common one. No it is not. What is common, if by virtue of the sheer amount of people who are believers in one or the other abrahamic branch, is the amount of people who separate both, one good, one bad. The Gnostic view of this is certainly not common at all. All the other main world religions do not even have a space for YHWH nor Satan. > Your confusion is understandable There is no confusion. I already had enough debates on this in my life. >However, this knowledge is necessary for the few, and there is no sense in dismissing its validity, without even understanding it or researching it for yourself! There is no such "validity". Tsarion shows way too much empathy towards Jews and comes with ridiculous claims, if not grotesque twistings of history: >>Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc? These are his words. What arts? What music? What Jews produce is either gross or bland, or at best popular within our jewed societies. Without white admixture, they're worth nothing noble. It is that simple. Jews manage to be so ruinous because they have stolen some white DNA and this cannot be tolerated any longer. It makes them too dangerous. Now that they have organized our destruction and continue pushing for it, all of them will pay in return as we will free ourselves. Extermination will come for them. ALL. OF. THEM. >You need to either reread my previous post, or reread Tsarion's article, which I understand you didn't even finish because of your emotional distaste with it... Re(re)ad my post. Technical limitation. >>29618 >UPDATE: I was about to continue writing this reply based on the article linked above but it's gone. Hence why I could not continue. To this day, the link remains broken.
>>29702 >>29703 Well, I can't restate what I have already said, as all your points have already been covered. But I can revisit some important points again that you have brought up again. >It does not need to made more complex. You are absolutely right, for the majority of individuals, and certainly for yourself, there is no need at all to delve into this. Once again, did the SA street fighter need to comprehend the esoteric history of his enemy? No, and in fact, this would be a detriment to him, as such knowledge is confusing and elaborate, not befitting to most. However, your attempts to deny attempts to seek the actual truth, however 'complex' they may be, are invalid, blanket statements. For you and those like you, I understand your rejection of this type of thinking, continue resisting in whatever way befits you best and carry on. >Don't push it. There were not "innumerable genetic Jews". You can do the simple google searches yourself. >Many were kept wherre they were because they were manageable, docile and useful. Yes... this is the essence of the point I have been making. Your critique is often a restatement of what I a have already said, or that Tsarion has said. >Are you a genetic Jew? >Are you a boomer? haha I knew the insults would come in this reply >Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc? We have already discussed the meaning of this. I said earlier, regarding the evils of 'normal Jews', "This is likely due to their subconscious/racial affiliation with truly demonic and negative tendencies, to suggest that these people are consciously aware of, and active participants in the world conspiracy of the new world order is preposterous and unfounded. Are they truly at the absolute core of the problem facing the West today? No, but a great deal of them serve its horrific goals due to their INHERENT TENDENCIES. Likewise, a great deal of them do not serve any agenda, subconsciously or otherwise, and are more or less 'normal people', or even good people, despite their heritage". When I say 'good people', feel free to equate that with 'harmless', or what you say 'docile'. We are making the same point. Furthermore, Tsarion simply relates the undeniable 'contributions' to 'Western culture', that Jews have made, to demonstrate that rigid biological determinism regarding genetic Jews, is obviously false, and does not even come close to illustrating the policies or ideology of the Third Reich, as we have seen. Instead, this attitude is a degeneration of 'neo nazis', that we have absorbed through Hollywood. I don't know how you can read a single paragraph from that article and come to the conclusion that Tsarion is a 'jew lover', unless you cherry pick certain sentences and interpret them COMPLETELY out of context. Unless you are the most simple minded, biological determinist, that would make the racial scholars of the Third Reich condemn you as unreasonable, there is no way to interpret what I, or Tsarion have said, in this manner. Your fiery hatred for the enemy is commendable, I dislike arguing 'against' anything you have said, because I realize it is a perfectly acceptable set of attitudes and beliefs, for the majority of individuals. I simply seek the historical reality, which is often times more 'complex' than we would like. I will restate that there is value in this understanding for a few individuals, but sure, most should stay away from it because it is a rabbit hole and can lead to confusion and mental defeat. It is a shame that this discussion of Tsarion has devolved into simple Jew bashing, as vital as it is to understand there evils. However, there are more beliefs there, and viewed through a certain lens, are valuable to those of an NS or esoteric Hitlerist persuasion. One simply needs to have the ability to sift through the knowledge, and not become emotionally compromised when something is said that does not abide by his rigidly ingrained attitudes and beliefs.
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>>29487 >you get it wrong lad. Perhaps I was not direct enough then. I do not in any way disagree with you, in fact it was what I was attempting to hint at. I would celebrate the day. Sometimes, I get caught up in strange moods, and attempt to write/speak from the heart. It doesn't always work out quite right. >>29520 My solstice was quite good, I'd say. My aetheric senses were obstucted by the local turbulence, so I had difficulty in discerning if any spirits had joined. But in spite of this interference, I saw the apparition of a man in black robes, with my subtler sight. I felt vague, distant familiarity. I am not certain who this was, and I can't help but wonder. Truth be told, this is not the first time he has appeared, but I never remembered to share with the lodge about his appearance. I repeated the same rite, and attempted an AP. As usual, I succeeded in the separation, but not in transferring the ego. I'd like to be able to consciously greet the man in black robes some day, on the same plane as he. >>29622 I had thought about invoking my right to return in the past, but I'll say that I have decided to stay here, to die here, as my forefathers had fought and died to conquer this untamed land. >>29672 I don't know, but I've seen Vimana too. Lights dancing in the sky, the stars seem to be speaking to one another in anticipation... Pale green discs of light flashing through the clouds. And all the while, the Light on the proverbial horizon seems to be growing stronger, reaching here from the future. Then, the pentagon released that video of a "UFO". We very much are just in the very beginning of the beginning. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting anxious in anticipation for whatever is coming too, when the very stars seem to be.
>>29753 Try mugwort, valerian, huperzine-a and alpha-gpc. There's actually a commercial brand that has all of these in one mix, Dream Leaf. https://luciddreamleaf.com
>>29672 This 4th of July is going to be really “special”. Nobody will ever forget it. It will be a closing ritual, which started in 1776. Look at the stars, this will happen precisely this 4th July 2020, not 2021 or after. A very special date for our “masters”.
>>29782 Care to elaborate?
>>29783 Not well versed how these will line up with constellations, but there are few planetary conjunctions coming up, including a "Great Conjunction" in Dec
>>29704 >Well, I can't restate what I have already said, as all your points have already been covered. You make error after error and you call that "all covered". Good tactics. >You are absolutely right, for the majority of individuals, and certainly for yourself, there is no need at all to delve into this. Drop that ridiculous attitude. You know nothing of me nor what I read and experienced on all ways of life regarding solid and metaphysical matters. >However, your attempts to deny attempts to seek the actual truth There is no truth to be had from people who cannot even have the most basic facts straight. >For you and those like you, I understand your rejection of this type of thinking, continue resisting in whatever way befits you best and carry on. This "type of thinking" is a pure fallacy that weakens us. Where do you think it would lead us to acknowledge fables about the Jews' merits and contributions, aggrandized over what is a critical reality denied by the author? Even when a Jew might come with a curiously non-subversive idea once in a while, it is unavoidably accompagned by the Jew's usual inclinations to the defense of the tribe and destruction of others. >You can do the simple google searches yourself. Still bs. Not my job. Do it. >Yes... this is the essence of the point I have been making. Where? Provide post and quotation. I hardly saw you elaborate on this point in any details. And to make the point clearer, it is obvious that they were connsidered useful as a temporary measure, akin to slaves with extended rights. Nobody ever argued they would have to be kept around. Their technical skills only confuse people in thinking they're needed. Would you keep Africans around because one of them managed to change your flattened tire? >haha I knew the insults would come in this reply You defend divisive and confusing material and come out as unapolegetically defensive of an author who was himself defensive of the Jews in that he considerably mitigates their negative influence. I have all the reasons to wonder if you're a kike or somehow related to a Semitic cult. >We have already discussed the meaning of this. No we did not. There's the thread right there to verify. Stop lying. >I said earlier, regarding the evils of 'normal Jews', "This is likely due to their subconscious/racial affiliation with truly demonic and negative tendencies, to suggest that these people are consciously aware of, and active participants in the world conspiracy of the new world order is preposterous and unfounded. Are they truly at the absolute core of the problem facing the West today? No, but a great deal of them serve its horrific goals due to their INHERENT TENDENCIES. Likewise, a great deal of them do not serve any agenda, subconsciously or otherwise, and are more or less 'normal people', or even good people, despite their heritage". And this has literally nothing to do with: >>Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc? —that I quoted from Tsarion and my debunking thereof. No wonder you think you have my points "all covered" already with your multiple non sequiturs. We are speaking of MANY so called INVALUABLE contributions in SO MANY FIELDS according to Tsarion but you just repeat that they don't serve an agenda like a broken record. Serving such a secret agenda or not has nothing to do with these Jews' claimed abilities to meaningfully contribute to our history and civilization(s) in any way whatsoever. These are literally two different topics.
>When I say 'good people', feel free to equate that with 'harmless', or what you say 'docile'. We are making the same point. They are not "good", and only harmless as long as they're literally restrained in their freedoms. Any time one loses the leash, the same problems return, as they always have. >Tsarion simply relates the undeniable 'contributions' to 'Western culture', that Jews have made, to demonstrate that rigid biological determinism regarding genetic Jews, is obviously false What in his claim being the false one is so hard to understand exactly here? How can you be so absent-minded in failing to understand how genes work, their effects measured from the culture and religion Jews produced to how these same Jews think metaphysically and relate to divine matters? They have a behavior they kept repeating for thousands of years. You give them an absolution because some of them failed to express the full scope of their innate behavioral tendencies. Are you one of those mad people who wish they could convert Jews or change their culture and think all the problems would just vanish, ignoring the sleeping instincts hard encoded in their genes? > and does not even come close to illustrating the policies or ideology of the Third Reich, They were imperfect, yet a solid groundwork. >I don't know how you can read a single paragraph from that article and come to the conclusion that Tsarion is a 'jew lover' Because of the concentration of false claims and excuses in their favour maybe? >unless you cherry pick certain sentences and interpret them COMPLETELY out of context. You already know what context I had access to, and you can see in my first reply to the article that I quoted the sentences fully, context too. Nothing in what I managed to read was suggesting that Tsarion would change his tune. It didn't bode well for the reminder of the article which became unaccessible. I don't feel like I need to read more from this person when dealing with someone who can (again) claim such bs: >>Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc? Even more when so many Jews contributed in debasing and destroying our Western culture every time an opportunity made itself available, which can be both analyzed from their "works" in the previous century's 20s-30s and after WWII up to now. I am not even looking for a grand plan, only the topmost elite of their tribe would actually bother to come with a plan. What they are as a whole, though, is a problem that behaves identically, in subversive ways, across the whole spectrum. Because it is in their NATURE. >Unless you are the most simple minded, biological determinist, that would make the racial scholars of the Third Reich condemn you as unreasonable There is nothing simple-minded in understanding the importance of race. Don't even try to tell me the Third Reich wasn't obsessed about race either. We merely have a greater understanding of genetics than they did. Denying the plague this race is just because some author thinks he's found a honestly "Aryan" Jew somewhere does not cut it. Exceptions against the rule. Now, since it seems all his sites and related webpages are down, I went looking for quotations elsewhere. >www.goodreads.com/author/show/850488.Michael_Tsarion >“The Atonist nobility knew it was impossible to organize and control a worldwide empire from Britain. The British Isles were geographically too far West for effective management. In order to be closer to the “markets,” the Atonist corporate executives coveted Rome. Additionally, by way of their armed Templar branch and incessant murderous “Crusades,” they succeeded making inroads further east. Their double-headed eagle of control reigned over Eastern and Western hemispheres. The seats of Druidic learning once existed in the majority of lands, and so the Atonist or Christian system spread out in similar fashion. Its agents were sent from Britain and Rome to many a region and for many a dark purpose. To this very day, the nobility of Europe and the east are controlled from London and Rome. I could stop there. This is American boomer-tier C2C AM shit. Can almost hear Jones harping on the NASA NAZIs. Leave this place and crawl back to 4cuck.
>>29782 >This 4th of July is going to be really “special”. Nobody will ever forget it. > Look at the stars, this will happen precisely this 4th July 2020, not 2021 or after. A very special date for our “masters”. How? Your next post does not elaborate on this claim about the 4th of July. What do you mean? >It will be a closing ritual, which started in 1776. How does it relate exactly to the independence?
>>29811 >>29810 >This "type of thinking" is a pure fallacy that weakens us Agreed! For those who have your rigid, bulldog mentality, these ideas are clearly unnecessary and confusing. Simply continue your resistance against the enemy in whatever way you deem the most appropriate. Why does this hierarchical and differentiated system of ideas bother you? Do you believe that everyone should believe the same things, regardless of their nature? Did the SA stormtrooper behave the same way as an official of the Party and think the same way? This is my point here. You seek to put everyone generally aligned with 'our side', into one basket you call 'us', and anything which deviates from this rigid understanding, you condemn as "weakening the movement" or "jew loving", or even outright accuse of being a Jew themselves... This is not a good view of reality or this movement, and it is simply disheartening to see it. Your hostility, while understandable, is unfounded and almost laughable, given what I have already said throughout these posts. I understand that even the smallest 'sniff' of sympathy towards Jews will unsettle you, but surely, you cannot mistake my, or Tsarion's outright contempt for Judaism, as 'jew loving'. Again, the only way to come to this conclusion is to cherry pick statements completely out of context, and proceed to get wildly triggered because it is "too nuanced". So yes, stay away from Tsarion, it clearly confuses you to the point of no return! But we can revisit the sources of this confusion, but I suspect it is hopeless! And yes, you are quite simply wrong or confused, because you are fundamentally misunderstanding Tsarion's points, and your fixation on one or two quotes does the argument no service. Well, it is either that, or perhaps my English is not as good as I believe! I will attempt to reach the crux of your angst and hostility towards these ideas. I believe that it surrounds the notion that I, and Tsarion, are in any way sympathetic towards Jews. This is your fundamental point, yes? We will return to the quote you so often invoke, "Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc?" Tsarion makes this statement, to demonstrate that RIGID, BIOLOGICAL DETERMINISM, is simply not an adequate or realistic portrayal of reality. This is because genetic Jews have, without a shadow of a doubt, 'contributed' to Western institutions. They paint, they develop medicine, they compose music bla bla bla, they do all things that mainstream society deems as "worthy and normal contributions". Does this make them, or their horrific religion, "good", NO. This simply means that all Jews are not inherently "programed" to participate in the world wide conspiracy of destruction and decay, they are simply more inclined to do so because of their INHERENT TENDENCIES. This painfully obvious lack of biological determinism (that you fruitlessly deny), is why untold multitudes served in all aspects of the Third Reich. Want to get triggered? How does it feel that a genetic Jew who served loyally in the Wehrmacht did more for "Aryan civilization", than you have ever done or likely will do? This is the part where you now accuse me of being a Jew by the way, if you were at all confused! Do these examples of "normal, harmless or good Jews" mean Judaism should be tolerated? No, it must be eradicated and thrown out, for reasons I have already explained, along with all its secular manifestations such as Marxism and indeed the current world order of banking technocrats. Judaism must be wiped from the Earth, and it has no place in the West. I have no doubt that those genetic Jews who served the Reich would have been properly distanced from the German State in the end, to prevent the latent nature of their very blood to manifest in the future. Frankly, I don't mind if you, or people like you adopt a more rigid view of race, genetics and religion. I view the necessity and virtue for such simplistic beliefs for the majority of people. I don't know how many more times you want me to say the same thing. Do I have to bring up the SA stromtrooper analogy once again? Goodness! I am inclined to simply say "be on your way and carry on", because I think your attitude is suitable for yourself and those like you, simply direct your energy towards the actual enemy! >They are not "good", and only harmless as long as they're literally restrained in their freedoms. Any time one loses the leash, the same problems return, as they always have. Yes, agreed, perhaps a bit edgy and misanthropic for my taste, but sure! What is the problem here?
>>29810 >>29811 In regard to the policies of the Third Reich, you say >They were imperfect, yet a solid groundwork. I hardly think that you, or anyone like you, could provide a "more perfect" version of the glorious state that was the Third Reich and its apparently 'imperfect' policies. I notice you somehow fail to see the connection between my statement of; >I said earlier, regarding the evils of 'normal Jews', "This is likely due to their subconscious/racial affiliation with truly demonic and negative tendencies, to suggest that these people are consciously aware of, and active participants in the world conspiracy of the new world order is preposterous and unfounded. Are they truly at the absolute core of the problem facing the West today? No, but a great deal of them serve its horrific goals due to their INHERENT TENDENCIES. Likewise, a great deal of them do not serve any agenda, subconsciously or otherwise, and are more or less 'normal people', or even good people, despite their heritage". and Tsarion's statement; >Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc? I have cleared this up, yes? >Don't even try to tell me the Third Reich wasn't obsessed about race either. We merely have a greater understanding of genetics than they did. This is fucking nonsense, if you think that modern society has a 'better understanding' of race and genetics than the THIRD REICH, you are insane or a leftist fool who thinks our ancestors came from fucking Africa. >“The Atonist nobility knew it was impossible to organize and control a worldwide empire from Britain. The British Isles were geographically too far West for effective management. In order to be closer to the “markets,” the Atonist corporate executives coveted Rome. Additionally, by way of their armed Templar branch and incessant murderous “Crusades,” they succeeded making inroads further east. Their double-headed eagle of control reigned over Eastern and Western hemispheres. The seats of Druidic learning once existed in the majority of lands, and so the Atonist or Christian system spread out in similar fashion. Its agents were sent from Britain and Rome to many a region and for many a dark purpose. To this very day, the nobility of Europe and the east are controlled from London and Rome. This why I brought up Tsarion here in the first place, to actually delve into some of these wild teachings, without casually dismissing them like some lemming. I expressed from the very start, that I think Tsarion is fucked up in a lot of ways, but his historical analysis and breadth of knowledge is astounding. These are things I wanted to discuss, without degenerating into some fucking Jew talk that goes around in circles, or dismissing everything that isn't "FUCK ALL JEWS" as 'boomier tier'. Who actually belongs on 4cuck here?
Are Buddhism and European Paganism compatible? Once you reach ultimate enlightenment do you think one would feel any reason to come back to worship and practice of paganism due to some innate truths after realisation that everything is one? Another thing that arises from these questions are how does the soul exist without duality, a while back in a thread there were some posts about how nonduality was kike propaganda of some sort which may explain. Would love some answers or literature on these topics if anyone has any, I've had a very existentially stressful few weeks haha
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>>29815 >"Why have so many contributed to Western culture in invaluable ways and in so many fields - music, art, comedy, literature, history, religion, law, healthcare, psychology, film-making, drama and media, etc?" If you consider tasteless, subversive, degenerate kitsch that got forced by the tribe until people accepted it as their own culture to be contributions ... Sure, there are exceptions, but they do not change the rule. If you ever bothered reading a book about psychology from some Jewish author for example, you'd see that it doesn't diverge much from the collective Jewish psyche, with all of it's tendencies. Law? How to apply Talmud most efficiently? Healthcare? How to make goyim more sick so that we can sell them "medicine"? Let's not get into religion, which was how they subverted white societies in the first place. The only fields where Jews made some actual (but marginal) contributions were math and physics, perhaps philosophy and sociology (rare works which were not outright subversive), but even those could mostly be summed up with pic related. There were some exceptional individuals of Jewish origin who diverged entirely from the tribe, even those who made selfless contributions to the Aryan cause, but those were an anomaly and can't be used to justify the inclusion of Jews in any manner or capacity, or to argue against their biological programming. A kike will act like a kike even without Judaism, even if he is completely clueless about his origins. Biological determinism is not absolute, but it plays a role too great to ignore.
>>31261 Sure, those are good points. The point to explore though, is that perhaps the influential power structure behind the Western world's modern 'issues', is not composed of some vaguely cohesive group of Jews 'acting out', according to their more or less subconscious, biologically determined natures, but rather, an extremely organized and specific group with a consciously dictated ideology. This is the suggestion. Therefore, while the rank and file Jew may overwhelmingly act in accordance with everything you say, he is not the influential and determining figure behind the degenerating forces rotting world civilization, merely a propagator. The suggestion is that a specific tradition of 'Jewry', most notably and recently, the Sabattean-Frankist variety, that is at the forefront of world degeneration. Indeed, it makes little sense to call this 'Jewish', as it is so differentiated from the beliefs of rank and file jewry. However, does it derive from the fundamental 'essence' of the Judaic tradition? Absolutely. Are its members genetically related to those who call themselves 'Jew', it would seem so! Is this feasible? I don't know, but there is no shortage of evidence to suggest that it is the case.
>>31261 >The only fields where Jews made some actual (but marginal) contributions were math and physics And once you introduce Einstein to the equation, you suddenly realize the amount of time, money and efforts that were wasted in the pursuit of legitimizing a fraudulent theory from a verified scammer. His best defense was "you hate me you're an irrational antisemitic goy whawha" which worked very well back then and works even better up to this very day. (Incidentally, this goes along the point made in the picture you posted.) Besides, if one is supple (or desperate) enough to look for minor contributions, one will also find some of these contributions coming from some Pajeets or Nips too.
>>29816 >I hardly think that you, or anyone like you, could provide a "more perfect" version of the glorious state that was the Third Reich and its apparently 'imperfect' policies. Believe what you want, there is always room for improvement. NS Germany had a limited time to theorize and apply their model. >I have cleared this up, yes? No? I abandon all hope of seeing you providing this connection. Your theory about "normal Jews" vs "real/boss-tier Jews (implied, based on your writings, correct me if you will) is unfounded. The parasitic behaviour found in the elites is observed in the "normal Jews" of everyday and this can be verified any time. The real agenda that is actually being applied to the world stems from their true nature, whether it's found in a Rothschild or your street corner mortgage providing crook. Then, again, how does this relate to Tsarion's claim about the Jews' so marvellous contributions to our own civilization? I am still waiting for a clarification on your part here. >This is fucking nonsense, if you think that modern society has a 'better understanding' of race and genetics than the THIRD REICH, you are insane or a leftist fool who thinks our ancestors came from fucking Africa. Are you going to deny the many discoveries and refinements made in the field of genetics since WWII ended, now? Get real. >This why I brought up Tsarion here in the first place <Imagine studying Aryan history and esoterism, only to come up with the theory that a cartel of corporate suits that covers thousands of years uses a Druidic Christianity for its own benefit, operates from London and Rome and controls the whole world from these two cities. The City represents but a fraction of the world's financial power and Rome has lost most of its influence over Europe a long time ago, has near to none in North America, and is reduced to some heavy handed proselytizing in turd world countries. Woot! Here's the rest of the text: >Nothing has changed when it comes to the dominion of Aton. As Alan Butler and Stephen Dafoe have proven, the Culdean monks, of whom we write, had been hired for generations as tutors to elite families throughout Europe. In their book The Knights Templar Revealed Another book with such grand "revelations". Buckle up! Childish and sensationalist, as always. >the authors highlight the role played by Culdean adepts tutoring the super-wealthy and influential Catholic dynasties of Burgundy, Champagne and Lorraine, France. Research into the Templars and their affiliated “Salt Line” dynasties reveals that the seven great Crusades were not instigated and participated in for the reasons mentioned in most official history books. As we show here, the Templars were the military wing of British and European Atonists. It was their job to conquer lands, slaughter rivals and rebuild the so-called “Temple of Solomon” or, more correctly, Akhenaton’s New World Order. New one. So Akhenaton was planning to conquer the whole world. Good plot for the next batch of DC Comics I suppose. >After its creation, the story of Jesus was transplanted from Britain, where it was invented, to Galilee and Judea. LEL. It was literally constantly developed in the Mediterranean area of the Roman Empire. It was most heavily focused on Judea, on part because most Europeans could never bother or hope to verify the falsity of it. This does not change the fact that a lot of it is complete bollocks, even including names and the number of apostles, all recycled from, but not limited to, Eastern doctrines from Asia. >This was done so Christianity would not appear to be conspicuously Druidic in complexion. mysides.jpeg It's actually the Druids who tried to preserve whatever they could manage to hide within Christian texts, an infiltration of sorts, when their groups were being eradicated wherever they were found by Roman forces.
>>29816 >To conceive Christianity in Britain was one thing; to birth it there was another. The Atonists knew their warped religion was based on ancient Amenism and Druidism. They knew their Jesus, Iesus or Yeshua, was based on Druidic Iesa or Iusa, and that a good many educated people throughout the world knew it also. Their difficulty concerned how to come up with a believable king of light sufficiently appealing to the world’s many pagan nations. Their employees, such as St. Paul (Josephus Piso), were allowed to plunder the archive of the pagans. They were instructed to draw from the canon of stellar gnosis and ancient solar theologies of Egypt, Chaldea and Ireland. The archetypal elements would, like ingredients, simply be tossed about and rearranged and, most importantly, the territory of the new godman would be resituated to suit the meta plan.” >Michael Tsarion, The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume One >“As we stated, after their initial conquest, the Milesians began assimilating the gnosis of their predecessors. Of course they were no lovers of the Druids. After all, the British Druids were collaborators with their dire enemies, the Amenists. Nevertheless, returning to the ancient homeland was a most important step for the displaced and despised Atonists. Owning and controlling the wellspring of knowledge proved to be exceptionally politically fortunate for them. It was a key move on the grand geopolitical chessboard, so to speak. From their new seats in the garden paradise of Britain they could set about conquering the rest of the world. Their designs for a “New World Order,” to replace one lost, commenced from the Western Isles that had unfortunately fallen into their undeserving hands. But why all this exertion, one might rightly ask? Well, a close study of the Culdees and the Cistercians provides the answer. Indeed, a close study of history reveals that, despite appearances to the contrary, religion is less of a concern to despotic men or regimes than politics and economics. Religion is often instrumental to those secretly attempting to attain material power. This is especially true in the case of the Milesian-Atonists. The chieftains of the Sun Cult did not conceive of Christianity for its own sake or because they were intent on saving the world. They wanted to conquer the world not save it. In short, Atonist Christianity was devised so the Milesian nobility could have unrestricted access to the many rich mines of minerals and ore existing throughout the British Isles. Hey, it's not the Jews and Christianity wasn't invented by them, and certainly not to destroy the spiritual foundations of the white people so as to enslave and then exterminate them over time, but only to have access to silver, copper and iron mines. Who would have known? :o) :o)
>>29816 >It is no accident the great seats of early British Christianity - the many famous churches, chapels, cathedrals and monasteries, as well as forts, castles and private estates - happen to be situated in close proximity to rich underground mines. They actually happened to be placed on ancien pagan groves and old temples, which were built there both for geographical and astrological purposes and because, yes, people lived there and lived close to places where precious metals or stones could also be found, sometimes, and be extracted since, well, they didn't have cars, trucks and trains back then. Oh I bet you didn't know that! So the new faith could replace the old. If the plan was not to replace the pagan cults, the new Christian temples would have been built right next to the mines, whereas the older temples would have been sacked and left as ruins. >Of course the Milesian nobility were not going to have access to these precious territories as a matter of course. After all, these sites were often located beside groves and earthworks considered sacred by natives not as irreverent or apathetic as their unfortunate descendants. The fek. It's literally another American remake of Evil Fascist Corporatists who ruin Natives' sacred places in order to collect unobtainium. >The Atonists realized that their materialist objectives could be achieved if they manufactured a religion that appeared to be a satisfactory carry on of Druidism. What a convoluted plan. So it's Druidism but with a Christian polish so as not to look too druidic, but it's made so it looks druidic enough to the plebes so they are happy with the destruction of their temples. XD Enjoy the mental ride! >If they could devise a theology which assimilated enough Druidic elements, then perhaps the people would permit the erection of new religious sites over those which stood in ruins. If they were already in ruins, found in this desolate state by the Atenatianostites, then it meant the local people didn't care about their old pagan religions any longer and therefore there was no point trying all of this complicated subversion of something already abandoned by the locals. Now, if they were in ruins because they had been destroyed on purpose for the sake of a new creed, then how could we accept the ridiculous idea that natives would fancy their new religion because of some mistletoe juice being sprinkled here and there, through some cunning culture appropriation? Retarded. >And so the Order of the Culdees was born. So, Christianity was born. In the early days the religion was actually known as Culdeanism or Jessaeanism. Early Christians were known as Culdeans, Therapeuts or suggestively as Galileans. Although they would later spread throughout Europe and the Middle East, their birthplace was Britain.” Obviously, Galileans would have nothing to do with... well... you know...
>>33384 Haha not a bad exploration of the apparent rabbit hole of madness that compose Tsarion's many works! Much more productive than the usual "FUCK ALL JEWWWWSSS". I think many of your points and qualms can best be answered if a deeper reading of Tsarion is undergone on your part. But again, this might not be worth it and lead to confusion. I mean really, the gist of your 'debunking' of Tsarion amounts to casual dismissal and saying; >Childish and sensationalist, as always. or simply; >Retarded. Come on Your automatic and casual dismissal of shit that doesn't align with your preconceived notions as 'retarded', won't get you anywhere when it comes to learning new things. What is this attitude? But here we go again, it remains, the connection is still not drawn regarding this tired and seemingly obvious point!? >No? I abandon all hope of seeing you providing this connection. Your theory about "normal Jews" vs "real/boss-tier Jews (implied, based on your writings, correct me if you will) is unfounded. I really do not know what else I can say, is my English truly nonsensical? Must we revisit this again? However, you have not addressed the other points and responses I brought up last post. I assume you now, more or less, understand those arguments? But ok. >The parasitic behaviour found in the elites is observed in the "normal Jews" For the love of God man, I fucking agree with this and have stated my agreement many times. The only point of differentiation is my rejection of RIGID BIOLOGICAL DETERMINISM, regarding genetic Jews, and genetic inheritance in general. Do we have to discuss Jews in the Wehrmacht again, or god forbid make some SA analogies? So why would genetic Jews 'contribute' to Western civilization as Tsarion says, ie, develop medicine, music etc, that is 'beneficial' (at least in the modern materialistic sense of what constitutes 'good')? Or why would they do something even simply and harmless, like work in a mechanic shop for their whole life or something like that? Aren't they all EVIL??? Here's why, it is simply because they are not absolutely determined and programed to be a 'crook' by virtue of their biology, or even their exoteric religious beliefs, alone. Does Judaism and Jews 'need to go', yes yes and yes. That's a YES by the way. We have both explained the reasons for this. The point that Tsarion makes, is that there is perhaps a separate class of 'Jews', which are extremely differentiated from the rank and file jew (and yes, with the latter still being fundamentally 'bad', before you fucking pounce), which is present at the highest echelons of society. I don't see how one can deny the existence of this separate, Sabbatean-Frankist class of Jews, that is completely different (but yes, related) to normal jewry, given all the information that is out there, and certainly not just from fucking Tsarion. You know what, I won't get into the nitty gritty again, as interesting as it is, I fear it does more damage than good and causes irreconcilable confusion. As I stated last time, your beliefs are more or less suitable and I'll leave it at that.
>>33384 >Are you going to deny the many discoveries and refinements made in the field of genetics since WWII ended, now? Get real. Sure, and what are the main products of these so called 'discoveries and refinements' in terms of their impact on society. A belief that we are all genetically equal and there is no significant differentiation between the 'races', a belief that we evolved from black apes in Africa, a belief that Europeans are a genetic mutation from said black apes, etc etc etc. These beliefs are INSTITUTIONALIZED at the highest levels of scientific communities and society at large. So no, I reject the notions that we have a 'better understanding' than the Third Reich, of anything at all, let alone science and race. We may have a more 'technical', ie, 'Jewish' understanding of materialistic science, but it is utterly polluted with manufactured degeneracy at the highest levels. >If they were already in ruins, found in this desolate state by the Atenatianostites, then it meant the local people didn't care about their old pagan religions any longer and therefore there was no point trying all of this complicated subversion of something already abandoned by the locals. Now, if they were in ruins because they had been destroyed on purpose for the sake of a new creed, then how could we accept the ridiculous idea that natives would fancy their new religion because of some mistletoe juice being sprinkled here and there, through some cunning culture appropriation? Retarded. Your casual dismissal of this stuff does you no favors. To analyze things from the past, we have to overcome several hurdles. First among which is a simple lack of information and corruption of the historical record. Second, is our own, modern mindsets. We are products of a fundamentally materialistic upbringing, it is extremely difficult to analyze the motivations of traditional societies (leading to dismissing them as 'retarded', for fuck sake), which were driven by spiritual attitudes we can barely comprehend.
>>33373 It's actually both to a certain degree. Even if we performed a social experiment where a group of biological Jews are raised to be clueless about their origin, and not have any contact with Judaism whatsoever but instead gets raised on completely different values, most of them would still end up acting like total kikes. In an entirely different context, with different stories, the same behavioral patterns would emerge. They are kind of like pit-bulls, artificially selected for specific traits, which only get reinforced, boosted and directed with their religion. And even if you treat the pit-bull very well instead of training it for dog fighting, there is still a good chance that it will bite your kid's face off eventually and you are much better off getting a more organic, or at least less dangerous dog for your family. Of course, the idea that every single Jew in existence is bad is ridiculous, but whoever acts as their apologist should be seen with suspicion, if not as an outright subversive. Yes, there were and are some pretty cool Jews, some contributed to certain areas, some made pretty good literary works, music or movies, some fought in Wehrmacht, but we are dealing with numbers, ratios and percentages here. There is simply not enough of those to even partially excuse the overwhelming majority of them. Besides, those who diverged from their socio-biological programming were usually those with little admixture. Nurenberg laws existed for a reason. Personally, I think that having some kike DNA is good as it kind of serves like a vaccine. I mean, you must be pretty new here if you came to preach about the "good Jews" to the people who know about the Esau gambit and all of their tricks and memetic weapons, but I'll entertain your effort. If Sabbateans are so different from the rank and file jewry, why did they not rise against it or attempt to stop it? But yes, once the extremely organized group with consciously dictated ideology is eliminated, the rest will mostly fade into irrelevancy. I'm all for making a selection, but I don't see it justifying the risk and the resources needed. The "bulldog mentality" that you accused the other poster of having is actually a rule of a thumb in this case. Once the parasite is removed, we can study and observe individual kikes so that we can determine can they be included in our society or not, and in which capacity. In fact, we would let their actions speak for them, prior to that. Would they put their life on the line for it? Would they sacrifice themselves for it? There is overwhelming evidence showing that no matter how many times Jews were given a chance to behave differently, they have used that chance to double down on their corrosive behavior and ruin those who have given them that opportunity. >>33379 It wasn't Einstein that I was referring to. >one will also find some of these contributions coming from some Pajeets or Nips too. Far greater and more numerous contributions.
>>33407 >Once the parasite is removed, we can study and observe individual kikes so that we can determine can they be included in our society or not, and in which capacity. No, that’s the premise of many alien movies. The (((face suckers))) and matriarchal (((acid spitters))) always escape and royally fuck shit up.
>>33407 >Yes, there were and are some pretty cool Jews, some contributed to certain areas, some made pretty good literary works, music or movies, some fought in Wehrmacht, but we are dealing with numbers, ratios and percentages here. There is simply not enough of those to even partially excuse the overwhelming majority of them. Agreed brotha, I've never said or suggested any differently. >If Sabbateans are so different from the rank and file jewry, why did they not rise against it or attempt to stop it? Pretty simple here, the answer is that rank and file Jewry were not, and are not, even remotely aware of these things, same as ordinary aryan people. Ask the ordinary Jew, be they secular or religious, they won't know what the fuck a 'Sabbatean Frankist' even is, at least this is my intuition. >I mean, you must be pretty new here if you came to preach about the "good Jews" to the people who know about the Esau gambit and all of their tricks and memetic weapons, but I'll entertain your effort. I think you address this yourself with; >Yes, there were and are some pretty cool Jews, some contributed to certain areas, some made pretty good literary works, music or movies Where's the problem here? We are in alignment. >The "bulldog mentality" that you accused the other poster of having is actually a rule of a thumb in this case. Was never 'accusing' the other guy of this mentality, merely acknowledging it, and even validating its necessity for the majority of folk, including him. I don't think it is an adequate or completely accurate representation of reality as it stands, but most people have no need to understand the intricate and confusing 'reality', it's completely unnecessary for the majority of folks. After all, the entire German society of the Third Reich were certainly not 'Thule' initiates or racial scholars, they simply did their part as directed. This is the essence of hierarchy, or even outright differentiation of groups and individuals! I notice that even right wing circles are infected with the egalitarian 'one size fits all' attitude, even if they do not recognize it and may even nominally claim to oppose it. >There is overwhelming evidence showing that no matter how many times Jews were given a chance to behave differently, they have used that chance to double down on their corrosive behavior and ruin those who have given them that opportunity. This is why the entire religion needs to be done away with. Not exactly breaking new ground here are we?
>>31258 >Are Buddhism and European Paganism compatible? No.
>>29649 I'm a newfag here and also when it comes to esoterism, but I know enough about genetics and the jews to agree with you completely. It is the genetic make-up of the jews that makes them behave and act like they do. Of course there is a big majority that doesn't "consciously" try to subvert their host nations, but nonetheless they do it "unconsciously" due to their nature. This very same nature is the one that manifests in the elites, who "consciously" take that nature and define an ideology and agenda around it. So ultimately, 99% of jews are subversive, and 100% of jews carry the genes necessary to be subversive, and thus need to be eliminated entirely. On another note, as much as I hate newfagging, I do have 2 questions: 1) What kind of affiliation do people like the Clintons and the elite child sex traffickers have? Are they crypto-jews, or do they have some other kind of esoteric motivation? 2) I'd appreciate a list of the most essential books to dive right in into the esoteric, druids, ancient knowledge, etc.
>>33391 > A belief that we are all genetically equal and there is no significant differentiation between the 'races', a belief that we evolved from black apes in Africa, a belief that Europeans are a genetic mutation from said black apes, etc etc etc. These beliefs are INSTITUTIONALIZED at the highest levels of scientific communities and society at large. So no, I reject the notions that we have a 'better understanding' than the Third Reich, of anything at all, let alone science and race. We may have a more 'technical', ie, 'Jewish' understanding of materialistic science, but it is utterly polluted with manufactured degeneracy at the highest levels. I know a bit about this area and I reject your framing. Jews work tirelessly to subvert genetics and anthropology, but it is quite clear that European men are more evolutionarily advanced relative to apes and even blacks. Every bit of rigorous technical understanding we get collaborates the naive notion of racial differences, not challenges them. This is the whole reason js now rely on censorship and narrative building and such womanly nonsense. They have largely given up on pseudoscientific denialism. >>33454 No idea about hidden details, but I think it's important that Clinton and Trump and Biden had their children married to Jews. Hilariously, I'm not sure if the same is true of Sanders.
>>33409 Good point >>33410 >brotha *puts on a white robe. You came to the wrong neighborhood boy. >they won't know what the fuck a 'Sabbatean Frankist' even is, at least this is my intuition That's because they are incapable of even contemplating that something which they, or others of their kind do might be bad, nor caring about it. Average jew doesn't need to know the Protocols in order to jew, he does it instinctively and culturally. They are robots, most of which are total slaves with no free will or self-consciousness at all. It's those at the top of the hierarchy who make conscious, elaborate, long-term plots. And while they treat the outer circle jewry as barely more than cattle and useful idiots, they are still backing each other in every sphere. >but most people have no need to understand the intricate and confusing 'reality', it's completely unnecessary for the majority of folks In fact, inner circle was even more anti-Jew than the average solider, and had far more intricate and complex understanding of the JQ, including it's metaphysical, rather than just material aspects. >This is why the entire religion needs to be done away with. You are still left with genes which will re-create the religion in a different form after a while. If we are to have weaponized Jews, they would need to be sterilized. Anyway, Tsarion is right about "Atonism" being the source of corruption which kikes exploited to take control of Aryan societies and enslave them in the name of it's false god, but they never believed in in themselves, which is exactly what gave them so much advantage. Other than that, he doesn't seem to offer much of interest, especially not to some rather "seasoned" people who post here. Also, he seems to be wrong about many things. There is a thread discussing the nature of the Jew as well, it's redundant, if there are any "good jews" , let them go against the mafia (with all of the consequences) and I will recognize them as worthy of respect, just like I recognize Otto Rahn or Bobby Fischer (who were barely Jewish). Actions, not words. >>33454 >1) What kind of affiliation do people like the Clintons and the elite child sex traffickers have? Are they crypto-jews, or do they have some other kind of esoteric motivation? They are retards who get convinced by the kikes that they are very special, crypto-jews as well (you'll hardly find any so called "elites" who aren't), Hillary Clinton was a member of some Wicca coven or something kek, that's as basic as it gets. They traffic children because they want to fuck them, the rest is just larp, although their handlers do extract a lot of chtonic loosh from such activities. But mostly, it's just kikes and their shabbos doing kike things, without much deeper meaning behind it. Even Marina Abramovic is mostly pretending/acting, kikes lie, even when it comes to "dark powers" . They are as fake as it gets, no matter what they pretend to be or follow. A Jew is an organic lie. >2) I'd appreciate a list of the most essential books to dive right in into the esoteric, druids, ancient knowledge, etc. Are you interested in something specific, and what do you hope to accomplish with it? What are the rest of you lads up to, didn't see Welsh island lad post in a while, I hope he is doing ok. I visited a very interesting place recently and saw a snek protruding from behind a car radiator when coming back. Interesting omen. t. Serblad
>>33516 40k seems to be awol at the moment but he had got family and a new job to deal with. He'll be back in time.
>>33516 Apologies for the samefagging hence the sage, I've been keeping up the rites and thanks to the recent chimpouts been doing some overdue preparations.
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>>33516 > Are you interested in something specific, and what do you hope to accomplish with it? Well, being that I don't really know much about it I don't really know what I'm looking for. I just have a vague intuition about what esoterism is throgh lurking /lit/ and /pol/. I'm most familiar with the Perennialists, which I'm reading at the moment (Guenon). I guess I'm just interested in getting started with esoterism as a whole field, and learn about things like the Kali Yuga or Atonism. Is pic-related good for that? Also, esoteric Hitlerism seems interesting, I've already saved some Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano stuff.
It's good to see you lot again. I believe it has been a year or so since I posted on 8ch and talked with Druid lads. I'll keep in touch when I have some im-portent things. I am glad you're all doing well enough.
Anyone got some good Gnosis primers (pdfs, mp3s, mp4s) one could dump here?
>>33555 Full House numbers.
>>33390 >>33391 >I think many of your points and qualms can best be answered if a deeper reading of Tsarion is undergone on your part. Oh no, please no. I already had enough through something like two posts worth of quotations. I see nothing of interest there. Only bs. I have no plan to entertain your delusions. If you think Tsarion is great, good for you, enjoy his books. Then maybe six books later you will realize how much of your time you have absolutely wasted for no benefits whatsoever.
>>33407 >some made pretty good literary works, music or movies Like? >some fought in Wehrmacht Mostly "nationalistic" Jews who identified as Jews but wanted to stay in Germany because it was cozy and thought being German in the street but Jew at home was acceptable. Probably a good many Zionists in the pack too. but ALL OF THEM, carriers of the Jewish DNA-time bomb. >Personally, I think that having some kike DNA is good as it kind of serves like a vaccine. <having parts of Jewish DNA is useful to create a world free of Jewish DNA This opinion is absurd on its own face. What kind of advantage does it provide aside from the risk of possibly generating an individual with stronger Jewish instincts than Aryan ones? >But yes, once the extremely organized group with consciously dictated ideology is eliminated, the rest will mostly fade into irrelevancy. Wrong. Same as for the other anon, now could be a good time to understand how genetics work and that the "ideology" was formed from the minds of Jews who acted according to their own nature, lest you fancy a Cohen modal haplotype return. You get it all wrong if you think it's culture that came first. That's like saying race is a social/cultural construct. Bunker'd /pol/acks are really starting to worry me. Even if you were able, through some untold miracle, to destroy all traces of their culture, they would still regroup and regrow the same habits, the same needs for a tribal cohesion based on the urging expression of their instincts. You might reboot them to some degree but they will regrow a typically Jewish culture and it will return very fast as it will prove necessary to their survival as what they are. They will also still carry those genetic illnesses, first of all schizophrenia which is rampant in their population. >I'm all for making a selection, but I don't see it justifying the risk and the resources needed That is very contradictory. If you understand there is no gain but a waste of resources and many risks taken, then you should not be in favour of this selection. Let's get this odd idea out of your mind right now. I'd hate to learn you're one of those who wants to engineer some new Jew. It's not up to you to do work for them. Stop acting like a mother on Jews like other libs act like mothers with niggers. A people should not obtain more than what it can really produce on its own. <With this simple rule, we Whites will forever be on top. >Once the parasite is removed, we can study and observe individual kikes so that we can determine can they be included in our society or not, and in which capacity. Once you remove the parasite, you cannot observe its effects on the host any longer. Besides, the parasite will absolutely want to find another host. Also, we will not even try to include any of them. You must understand that ruthlessness is necessary here. Drop the compassion, the feeling that you owe them or some titular entity in the sky the effort of finding a place for some of them. Only barely Jews might be considered for inclusion, and this only under severe rules which would extend well beyond mere administrative or cultural guidelines. >In fact, we would let their actions speak for them, prior to that. As I said earlier on, many Jews are latent ones but can reveal their instincts at any time. In any case, their own progeny might prove more militant and orthodox than the parents. A risk we shall not take. >Would they put their life on the line for it? Would they sacrifice themselves for it? Should we care? >There is overwhelming evidence showing that no matter how many times Jews were given a chance to behave differently, they have used that chance to double down on their corrosive behavior and ruin those who have given them that opportunity. Yes, and that alone is more than sufficient to be without comprise, to be ruthless and to generalize against their whole population. Imagine Aryans sacrificing their sacred and precious time for the sake of some Jews, because of womanly sentimentalims and weakness. KEK! >It wasn't Einstein that I was referring to. I know, but once you introduce him and gauge the absolute waste of time and resources that resulted from his crook theory and other "contributions", then you see that the minor additions by some other Jews do not outweigh the damage he caused, thanks to support from the rest of the Jewish community who made him a champion of physics, then again showing the real "contribution" from Jews to our civilization. >Far greater and more numerous contributions. ...than Jews'? Most likely.
Lads here’s a few screen caps from The Phoenix Project; I found another lurker fan. Have a great day. >>33553 Thanks lad, glad you stopped in. >>33522 (observed) >He'll be back in time. Wew, that a good portent lad. I was getting worried tbh. >>33516 >saw a snek protruding from behind a car radiator when coming back. Interesting omen. That is bizarre lad, he must have been really cold to clime in there. >>33555 (observed) 8kun.top/PDFs/ is back up, use a vpn though. Is there anything specific you’re after lad or just general Gnosticism? I don’t have one myself, but the Kybalion should be on archive.org or libgen. Pic 3 is a translation of the Emerald Tablets Of Hermes.
>>33516 > It's those at the top of the hierarchy who make conscious, elaborate, long-term plots. And while they treat the outer circle jewry as barely more than cattle and useful idiots, they are still backing each other in every sphere. Yes this is the gist of it. >In fact, inner circle was even more anti-Jew than the average solider, and had far more intricate and complex understanding of the JQ, including it's metaphysical, rather than just material aspects. Good point. While the inner circle were 'more' passionate regarding their condemnation of the jew, it was certainly more nuanced, learned, and deep, than the simplistic, crude and vulgar understanding the majority of party affiliates would have had, such as the street fighting SA. The point is that this differentiation of ideals based on ones' place in society (sometimes quite pronounced), is natural, good and healthy. >Other than that, he doesn't seem to offer much of interest, especially not to some rather "seasoned" people who post here. I'm tempted to agree, but I think there are some valuable points he brings up here and there. Might be worth an exploration, if anyone is willing to get over this ridiculous Jewish hurdle. >>33565 You again? No tirade this time? Just a sentence or two of insults and casual dismissal? Fair play, if it's not for you, it's NOT FOR YOU. This is something I have emphasized again and again. Simply stay away from Tsarion, he clearly triggers/confuses you to the point of no return, his works do you no favors at all! >If you think Tsarion is great I don't think he's great at all, and have stated so many times. Your inability or unwillingness to register this simple fact is so very telling. >>33566 >Mostly "nationalistic" Jews who identified as Jews but wanted to stay in Germany because it was cozy and thought being German in the street but Jew at home was acceptable. Show sources for these types of claims, as far as i can tell they fought honorably and were recognized as such by the Reich in official capacity. The word of National Socialist officials simply carries more weight than yours. I just don't think you have any type of authority to dismiss the actions of genetic Jews who served loyally in the Wehrmacht as potential Zionists or whatever. Actions speak louder, and fighting Bolsheviks on the Eastern Front, despite being a 'genetic Jew', is more significant in my eyes than some 'Aryan' pontificating behind a computer. Rigid biological determinism just doesn't fit the bill, as reality demonstrates. >ALL OF THEM, carriers of the Jewish DNA-time bomb. However, can't disagree there!
>>33568 From what I hear, one can achieve Gnosis to defeat their inner demiurge to achieve something? You might know what I mean. I wanna be on the truthful track, y'know?
>>33568 >>33570 Something about uniting Sofia and Christ?
>>33569 Rigid biology is the only thing that matters. No matter how useful a Jew is he is still a Jew and if allowed to survive in an Aryan society he will impact it negatively either directly or through his children. Historically Germany went to soft on the Jews, I love and respect Hitler but you can't take their light approach to Judaism as a model prescription to the Jewish problem. Heavier means are needed. No Jew regardless of his positive impact must be allowed to exist on this earth. We simply can't afford to risk it especially seeing the modern day impact of full blown Jewry. It's either us or them, there is no good Jew.
>>33580 >Rigid biology is the only thing that matters. I mean this is clearly not the case. HOWEVER, I see no harm in a portion, or even the majority of individuals affiliated with the 'movement' thinking like this. This oversimplified, rigid, crude and bulldog attitude of yours', while not objectively 'accurate', is nonetheless suitable. Most people have no need to understand the nuances and rabbit holes of these topics. It's all part of the hierarchical system of ideas this movement desperately needs to establish, we need to stop attempting to 'universalize' beliefs and opinions, there needs to be this differentiation, but also cohesion, direction and cooperation! It is harrowing to see subtle egalitarian liberal attitudes of universal belief penetrate our circles. But I'll digress, no one wants to hear this shit anyway. >Historically Germany went to soft on the Jews, I love and respect Hitler but you can't take their light approach to Judaism as a model prescription to the Jewish problem. I cannot take your casual and unfounded critique of Third Reich policy seriously. Here is a society that was a divine incarnation of the European essence, a perfect blend between pragmatism and principle, modernity and tradition. So if you want to critique this and say they were "too soft", feel free to start your own "hard" movement that does it the "right way", good luck taking off with that uncompromising platform. There's a lot of things we can critique about the Third Reich and learn from, the "too soft" treatment of Jews is not one of them. You know who Hitler went "too soft" on? It was the fucking Prussian aristocrats, who he saved from Marxist annihilation, and who then paid him back by repeatedly attempting to assassinate him, or constantly undermining his military plans. Yes, these Prussian "model Aryans", with their outdated and decadent persuasions, and who really do resemble the modern incarnation of neoconservatives and other useless remnants of the failed, old European civilization, bear a large responsibility for the defeat of Germany. And their spiritual descendants in the modern 'Christian democratic' parties of Europe, or the GOP of America, continue this vile, conservative 'clinging' to the decadent past. They need to be eradicated and replaced before we can ever move on to their Jewish controllers. Ah well, rant over. The gist of it is this, critiquing the Third Reich is not the solution, this is not something that should be critiqued, but emulated and respected, even deified, in every way possible. They paved the way for us, we simply need to repeat it with a contemporary spin. "For the man to come"
>>33569 >You again? No tirade this time? Just a sentence or two of insults and casual dismissal? I don't need more, faggot. >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D Enjoy this: dailystormer.su/scientists-say-listening-to-jews-stops-your-brain-from-working-correctly/ Talk about the Jews' major contributions to our civilization. I'll stop calling you names when you'll drop your support for that retarded boomer called Tsarion.
You'd soon learn that you're dealing with a Jew who's posting here, or a Jew-lover who would want to keep his (((girlfriend))), desperately looking for excuses to mitigate the Jewish problem.
Hello again it's nice to be back quick reminder that Monday is the 20th so have your rituals ready.
>>33648 What's the plan? How many lads are still around? It's been awfully silent lately, even without the site being down.
>>33655 Well I followed my own established ritual, many of the lads seem concerningly absent I fear there may only be a few of us left I may be the only brit left. I'm worried about all of them tbh I'm thinking I'll check out /druid/ at some point this week.
>>33655 >>33694 Yeah it's been awfully quiet here. I'll follow through with a small rite as planned, but damn where'd everyone go
>>33694 >>33695 Are you two Amerilads? Maybe Britbongs moved elsewhere
>>33726 >>33596 Tor'lad >>33694 Brit >>33695 Burger I believe .t janny, resident lurker also new mitigation was successful against last two attacks, so no longer expect anymore downtime
Fellow lurker here. Where the druids at?? Just got done researching all the archives. Really appreciate all you guys have done.
>>33728 It seems that the site uses (((cloudflare))) now. That's how lesser kikes get access to user data and metadata since many services use that. Since feds, or even NSA have certain protocols in place when it comes to sharing information, they found a more civilian way to obtain it by DDoS-ing websites and forcing them to use their cloud services.
>>33739 Over half of the internet is behind cuckflare protection, for one reason, its cheap and it works, and yes there services often do feel like a mob "protection" racket. This site allows vpn and/or tor. Your user data is yours to protect, as best you see fit. In 2020 you should have at least some inclination for opsec and use at least the minimum levels. Yet most people still use (((intel))) machines, running (((windows))), and their favorite (((browser))) connected to an (((vpn))) running over their (((isp))) lines passing through massive (((datacenters))) before shitposting on on 16. There are dozens of ways for you to get jewed along the way and true anonymity has pretty much become a myth as far as the (((government))) is concerned. (((Cloudflare))) is the least of my worries.
>>33726 Some of the bongs are focusing on irl it seems. >>33728 There’s two torlads afaik. One just rarely posts now. >>33739 >It seems that the site uses (((cloudflare))) now Are those the kikes that shoah’d 8chan? >>33737 Thanks lad, feel free to ask any questions.
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Does /druid/pol know they're bunkering on a board made by a literal underage discord tranny? Read this juicy thread on Julayworld /cow/ : http://bhlnasxdkbaoxf4gtpbhavref7l2j3bwooes77hqcacxztkindztzrad.onion/cow/res/7486.html#7486
>>33744 (checked) I've brought this up numerous times before. Expect to get a lot of pushback and nothing will change.
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>>33745 >>33744 (unchecked) Wrong dox retards discord trannies were showme(neinchan) and nano(freech) Maks(663) is like 23 or 24? now
>>33747 Correct, 663 was not a Discord tranny, but he did spend time in a Discord with trannies.
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The INFAMOUS OBVIOUS LARP to anyone with 85+ IQ "FAKED" Pewd' DM's for the record https://16chan.xyz/pol/res/84.html
>>33750 Kek, that can be said by anyone who has Ever used discord, the place is totally pozzed
The face you make, while apologizing for redpilling 4 million 12 year olds....
>oy vey >663 is based, but not really a Natzee? >Has Asian QT? >Catholic not PAGAN!?! I'm out of here Lads, going to back to shit post with the pig farmer and the Feds Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
>>33744 >fa66it3 Board owner seems to be doing fine though. There remains the risk of admin pulling the plug off tho... Also, there's not been any announcement for a transfer to another place. In fact 40K is MIA and nobody posts here. Like the whole fuel got burnt up. I suppose some lads might have bunkered in some isolated /comfy/ place and that's all, the group shrinking in numbers.
>>33486 >Every bit of rigorous technical understanding we get collaborates the naive notion of racial differences Pardon me?
>>31258 Buddhism is indo-european, it has been corrupted and changed over time (as everything has) but in its original state it was. The original Buddha was related to the Scythians, which is also related to the word Saxon. He was in the upper caste, meant to rule over the public. The caste system is a key indo-european element, but it always ends up dissolving over time. Only India has preserved it to some degree, even though that has been quite corrupted too of course. I suggest checking out the Subverted History series by Asha Logos. As well as the videos by Survive the Jive on the indo-europeans.
Anybody know if paganpathway is up anywhere or if its coming back?
I had my doubts about you, lads, thought you were just a bunch of crazies, but recently, I'm having more and more animal encounters in the forest. Last month, I had an European polecat approach me, yesterday, it was a deer. I will make an effort to learn about druids.
>>34051 Glad to hear it lad. Here’s a few PDFs for you. Folder with three books on Druidry https://mega.nz/folder/uSpnUKLL#pHKGZYTwANw9hx3umjj9_w Thomas Cleary, Summoning The Gods https://mega.nz/file/iaoRlY6L#fedJ3JT74RAhhvnaUpUW45BoovKfPQlCH1c8M5CV3Yo Julius Evola Pagan Imperialism https://mega.nz/file/TOAmnCCY#IGKlk54A5k997NjKKTxMngh9IezeIRaNi1b3MhXC5jA Julius Evola, Mystery of the Grail https://mega.nz/file/TXgSXIKb#pb3_bA5qpapvUgDEFm9cPf2vyvAzSbSKkzvjb_VWx0I >>34043 Good post lad, don’t forget Buddha had a red beard and blue eyes in the earliest depictions. >>34019 Admittedly, I’ve been spending most of my time getting aquatinted on The Phoenix Project. I also haven’t had much worth reporting here tbh. I’ve been in a spiritual slump of sorts since the spring for some reason.
>>29459 >attempting to prevent the rise of the Black Sun, and subsequent awakening of the Wild Horde. I missed you guys so bad I don't have words.
>>34112 Welcome back lad.
Morning members of the B.O.N.D, I have a request, how do I reconnect with my higher self so I can understand who I really am? Or steps to get going on that? I've read on this website: http://www.trufax.org/matrix5/welcome.html So, is the higher self thing a meme or what? I just wanna understand the truth and live emulating it, y'know?
>>34189 Cultivate a daily practice of discursive meditation, divination and a banishing ritual, two years minimum.
>>34191 Would you provide primers for those things, good sir? In any form. Mp3, mp4, .png's. Thank you kindly.
>>34215 For a banishing ritual, you can do well with the Sphere of Protection: http://aoda.org/publications/articles-on-druidry/introduction-to-the-sphere-of-protection/ For divination, a straghtforward method is geomancy: https://www.princeton.edu/~ezb/geomancy/geostep.html , for training in a daily practice all you need do is ask the oracle the question, "What do I need to know for the day ahead?" For discursive meditation, the best guide ever written is Bishop Joseph Hall's 1606 pamphlet, "The art of divine meditation", which can be found in the attached pdf. All three things, once you are up to speed, are a daily time commitment of approx 30 minutes. Do the ritual, cast a divination and then meditate. Eventually this practice will deliver its own set of red pills. Only once that happens does occult philosophy become open to you.
>>29622 We stay because we love our home. Our fathers and their fathers for generations worked their fingers to the bone to make this place a place worthy of their children. They came here and they carved a paradise for our people from the sweat of their brow and the steel of their hearts. You take away the niggers, and the Mexicans and all the foreigne invaders and you see a county of ingenuity and integrity, of faith and loyalty that has never been seen anywhere else on earth. European America is a temple dedicated to the spark of divinity in the hearts of European man. I can't speak for anyone else but my family and myself will fight with everything we have to protect what we have inherited.
>>34231 Is there anyway to get pictures of the physical movements, I learn best from actually watching and whatnot.
>>29622 I have nowhere else to go. I belong only to sacred southern soil, and that's it. where else would I fit in?
>>34242 This. >>34248 Good to see you lad. How’s things in the land of cotton? If you ignore Seattle and Portland, things are fairly sane here. Everyone is sick of the masks and our retard governor. Sheriffs outright say in press conferences they won’t enforce the cuckoldry.
>>34243 not that I know of lad, just have a go. Most of the work is in the visualisation component anyway.
>>34253 good to see you too, lad. things are alright down here. a lot of people going on with their lives. city has mandated masks in public, so whatever. I don't mind, as I don't do a whole lot in public. only thing that concerns me is missing work for 14 days if I catch coronachan. work has slowed down tremendously partly due to the global economic downturn, and partly due to it being summer. we also only had one protest, and it was nothing too exciting. sadly, though, my favorite season is passing by. I always loved the summertime. we'd go fishing, and swimming, and I enjoy watching all of nature blooming in its glory.
20th tomorrow lads don't forget your rituals
>>34338 I’ll be there lad.
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Checking in again lads. The lodge seems to have quite slowed. I suppose it was to be anticipated after the Tarot drawing for the year. Are you lads all alright? Quite the ride this year has been so far, what with all the riots and spreading increased insanity. I haven't seen the man in black robes since, and I still do not know who it was. My rite was successful, and left me quite exhausted afterward, and I still haven't made the changes to it yet that I had intended to. I found some blockages in some of my smaller channels, and managed to break through most of them. I've started again from the beginning with exercising my smaller channels and centers. I'll move on to the primary channels and centers again after I've healed and built back up strength in the sections that I've found blocked or afflicted by that black curse cube matter. I feel like I've been in the astral and even had meaningful "dreams" of the future again, but can't remember them. It's a shame, really, but my shadow memory abilities have been rather poor this year. Lastly, I've gotten tired of drawing weeb shit and wanted to draw something more substantial. I drew this, then scaled it down and did my best to wipe all metadata. While I was messing with contrast and such to try and spot any visible fingerprints from blending, I made it look quite a bit better by complete accident. So, here's this. Hope you lads the few of you left like it.
>>34383 Look great lad. Lads, a seven legged hobo spider has taken up residence on my kitchen light fixture. I’m tentatively taking it as an auspicious portent that 40k is alive and well.
>>29434 >Most royal families of Europe have also been apparently infiltrated and corrupted by this ideology/bloodline. most of them are the descendants of servants who survived a catastrophe where the monarch was killed, the show must go on or everyone loses their jobs!
>>34383 Looks like the bad guy from Season 1 of True Detective. Well done tho boi-O.
>>34468 I hope so too
>>34468 >looks great lad Thanks. I haven't drawn like this for quite a while. I wasn't sure I was going to be able to do it. >seven legged spider A good portent, indeed. At least, I would have interpreted it the same way. >>34585 Thanks, I messed the jaw up and did my best to fix it. Still looks a little off, but I'm happy with it considering how long it's been since I've done anything remotely realistic. Can you lads feel it? The light of the coming Dawn seems to have drawn even nearer. It feels as though it could break through to our side at any time now. To me, at least, it seems to be just on the other side. Lately, I have seen a set of three stars move through the sky. Sometimes these stars will draw close together and form a triangle, sometimes they will simply all go to the same area in the sky. They are in a different place each time I see them, but I am certain they are the same. Looking at them almost fills me with a sense of synchronicity, and stirs my deep longing. I hailed them, which caused one of them to flash a bright flash of blue-silver light. I asked the question and demanded to be taken to the grail, but nothing occurred past my hailing it. I also saw a golden light emit from the moon, which seemed to form the rune of Hagal, then the rune of Not. In light (pun not intended) of the recent synchronicities, and the seeming relative nearness of the inversion of the Earth, I offer this song as my bardic offering to the patron spirits on this Thor's Day. The numeromantic portents of this year have also alluded to the inversion, and the end of the Yuga. I am not so certain that it will occur this year, but I hope it does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXxrLEfZzu8 Sieg Heil!
I've been observing you lot from the previous board. It's because we have some things in common, but other things not. So I've decided to start a dialogue with you in the interest of understanding you better. There are a few points I have to address; 1) In the opening post I see the British flag. I understand nationalism, more so than British due to my country and its relation to the National Socialist current. However, the way I see it there is no way to reconcile National Socialism with the British Empire. The British Empire has since it's inception been the host of the jew, like the Franks before it. The British Empire is the vessel through which they spread their universalist agenda. The British Empire has been more anti-Germanic than any other force in modern history, so how exactly do you reconcile using the British flag while claiming to be National Socialists. In South Africa, you did what to the Boere? Put them in concentration camps, then fed them bread with glass, raped the young girls, put the indentured niggers up to gangraping the wives of prominent members of the Boer Kommando. Then after the war you severely twist numbers and statistics to fit the narrative that it was an accident. Before WW1, you kill and intern people rioting against the decision to join the war, assassinate Hertzog and de la Rey on their way to a conference with other generals to stage a coup so as to join the German war effort. During WW2 you set up concentration camps for the Ossewabrandwag, New Order, and Gruishemde who commit terror attacks to reduce the South African contribution to the war effort. You start the bombing of Germany, reject peace, and end up defeating the Germans due to sheer numbers. Which once again results in your, your yanks and the Russian gangrape, murder, and widespread ethnic cleansing of the German people. After the war you and your proxy empire, the USA, set up the EU, and spread nothing but bullshit about National Socialism and the Axis. You did the same about Apartheid South Africa though, which your empire signed off on. So how exactly do you reconcile being "British" with being National Socialist? One is crypto-jew, the other is the attempt to reawaken and actualize the potential and nature within the Aryan blood. Does not compute. 2) Very few, or any credit is ever given to Frisians. You call yourself Anglo-Saxon, but I've looked at the studies and your genetics is predominantly Breton, your language is derived from Frisian, not Saxon. The men of Wessex, Frisians settled that area, are the only reason you have an English language and weren't completely conquered by the Norse. Obviously the Normans replaced the elite, but they didn't affect the language as much, as is apparent in your language. So why do you overlook the importance that the Frisians played in your history so much? 3) Druids didn't use runes, especially not Armanen runes. So it seems strange to mix Celtic and Germanic traditions in this way. I'm well aware they are genetically and ,at some early stage, culturally related. I think it's strange you're called Druidpol, while practicing esoteric German spirituality. Even more so since you're still hung up on the British thing, therefore hung up on being the antithesis of National Socialism, and connected to the most anti-Germanic force in modern history.
anons how do I start learning about druidism I don't want to be a christkike no more and don't know how to start
>>34946 Although you've clearly made your mind up already, and your hatred of the British people has probably reached an understandable yet misguided phase of 'no return', we can still explore some of these points. >However, the way I see it there is no way to reconcile National Socialism with the British Empire. Let's begin by pointing out the simple fact that Hitler and National Socialist Germany originally sought an alliance with what they viewed as their 'Germanic brethren'. This simple fact overrides many of your points. So, let's also acknowledge the mercantile, materialistic, Jewish poison which had infected much of Europe during this time period. And certainly, these dark, demonic elements manifested quite strongly within the British Empire. However, there was an undeniable 'undercurrent' of virile, 'Aryan' energy which still undeniably manifested therein. NS Germany recognized this and respected it, and had high hopes that the darker, modern energies of Semitic influence could be overshadowed, and eventually eradicated in the coming era of European Awakening which the Reich would proliferate. This is why Hess went to Britain, this may very well be the reason Dunkirk was allowed to happen (but the jury is up on that one). So then, your remark that there is no apparent connection with 'being British', and being a 'National Socialist', seems to have no foundation at all, unless you want to disagree with the actual National Socialists themselves. Of course, the British actions during world war 2 deserve utter condemnation, ridicule and rejection. But frankly so does everyone involved, with the exception of Germany and co. (and even in their cases, subversive elements were present). But what shall we do? Spit on our flags and self flagellate to the point of no return? "I'm so sorry Hitler, so sorry, so sorry for what my grandad did, we truly are pathetic Jew slaves and utterly wretched"! Or should we instead embody that divine, forward looking and virile Hyperborean ethos of "Overcoming", redemption and reclamation? Your vitriolic condemnation of the British people, their Empire, history and general 'essence', is truly a case of 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'. Your resentment, which seems to stem from your own 'national identity', is quite understandable, but your demand to the British people to revoke all connection with their identity, is frankly pathetic, and mirrors more the tactics of a frustrated Jew than those of a National Socialist. As for your superficial qualms with the Frisian Language, Runes, British war crimes against the Boar, I don't think they require addressing after what's already been said.
>>34948 Well said, lad >>34947 Lurk, see >>29436 t. lurker >There is no ‘sacred text’ or the equivalent of a bible in Druidism and there is no universally agreed set of beliefs amongst Druids. One of the most striking characteristics of Druidism is the degree to which it is free of dogma and any fixed set of beliefs or practices. In this way it manages to offer a spiritual path, and a way of being in the world that avoids many of the problems of intolerance and sectarianism that the established religions have encountered.
>>34950 thank you anon
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Misguided, or simply what you don't want to acknowledge? Germany also chose it's kinship with the Boer people as a method by which to recruit the Dutch into the SS. And sought alliance with Boer people, which is why Oswald Pirow was closely connected to Germany, and they sent Robey Leibbrandt to link up with the Stormjaers. Hitler was reaching out to the Germanic aspect of the people of the Isles, not the British empire itself, in which he saw both admiration and disgust for it's submission to its host. In short, British != British people of the British Isles, it's simply an empire currently encompassing the region. The British empire is the antithesis and natural enemy of National Socialism, not English people like Mosley and Baron. Thus my bewilderment at why you'd want to defend a jewish empire. Acknowledge it or not, facts don't change because you feel a sense of loyalty to your jewish aristocracy. They said somethings in objective realization of achievements, but at the same time, funded and trained your enemies, for example the Indian National Army. So I'm once again pointing out, the empire you cling to is not the aspect that appealed to them beyond results, it was primarily culture and relation, as it is with me, regardless of your transgressions. If your identity is tied to a jewish empire then it's built of a fragile frame which is about to collapse. I don't need your flagellation. I was pointing out that the qualms that I, and others have with you English is your pride in the empire of your jew masters. You can't become what you claim to want to embody when your foundation is laid by Abrahamic ideology and values. There are those working towards the fracture of this jewish empire, Scottish independence, Northern Irish succession, easily achieved. They will happen. A part of me hates the British empire for it's part in South Africa and Germany. Another part has genetic kinship with the people stupid enough to praise this empire. It is clear that while we hold similar values, your group clearly still stand behind the British system. The muttification of culture exhibited by your rejection of the Frisian, and self-deception regarding your roots, these are symptoms of the host. I hope you see reason when the split occurs, and that it doesn't affect your livelihood, since at the end we are both Aryans, no matter how mistaken your allegiance is.
>>34954 >Germany also chose it's kinship with the Boer people as a method by which to recruit the Dutch into the SS. Quite fitting, their memory stands strongly alongside Bosnians, Georgians, Latvians, French, Croatian, and a multitude of other peoples who joined the struggle for this pan-European, German led attempt at 'revival'. >The British empire is the antithesis and natural enemy of National Socialism I have already explained the 'double nature' that is to be found within the British Empire, and frankly, all of European society for a long, long time. There is both the virile, noble, and honorable spirit of primordial European Tradition, and then there is also the subversive, demonic, and ever increasing 'dark', influence. Call it Semitic, call it materialistic, call it destructive. So, while the British Empire certainly embodied aspects of this low, wretched force, it also embodied certain 'fragments' of 'Hyperborean virility'. There was heroism to be found, there was the lingering notion of 'Imperium', regality, and many other related energies which faintly echo the bygone era of glories long past. However, was all this sublimated and overshadowed by the 'darkness', in the case of the British Empire around the time of world war 2? Well, certainly! And its last chance of 'reclamation' was doomed when certain wretched forces within the British government rejected the National Socialist revival of the primordial European ethos, and declared war upon it, in favor of, and allegiance with, the rising tide of Judaic filth. But, my friend, the margins were close. Hess did not fly to Britain for no good reason. >Thus my bewilderment at why you'd want to defend a jewish empire. Acknowledge it or not, facts don't change because you feel a sense of loyalty to your jewish aristocracy. >I was pointing out that the qualms that I, and others have with you English is your pride in the empire of your jew masters. Truly laughable! I respect the Empire to the extent that it embodied the virtuous characteristics which I have already described, and reject it, fully and utterly, to the extent that it embodies the wretched. I understand you may be unable to process the nuance of plurality, and wish to crudely simplify matters to a case of 'good' or 'bad'. Your personal connection to the matter, in regard to what I assume is your 'Boer' identity, does not help the matter in terms of clarity of thought and fairness of opinion. >If your identity is tied to a jewish empire then it's built of a fragile frame which is about to collapse. Again, simply ridiculous. I don't think I, or anyone else who traffics in similar circles of thought, tie any sense of their fundamental identity with the 'British Empire'. Such a modern, materialistic mindset of 'civic nationalism', which you are suggesting, is contemptible, and those who hold it are truly unfortunate souls. I have already described how I view the British Empire and its relation to my 'identity'. > It is clear that while we hold similar values, your group clearly still stand behind the British system. What values are these, exactly? And what 'British system' do I, and others like me, exactly 'stand behind'? Because so far, all you have done is proliferate this simplistic, resentful, vitriolic and frankly pathetic condemnation of British people and history. In this regard, I may as well be discussing with a subversive Semite, or a media talking head trying to uproot senses of genetic, cultural and spiritual continuance, identity, and community. >A part of me hates the British empire for it's part in South Africa Say no more. The power of resentment regarding 'personal injury', and in your case, it seems very personal indeed, is extremely potent. >The muttification of culture exhibited by your rejection of the Frisian, and self-deception regarding your roots, these are symptoms of the host. Given the previous observation, I won't bother addressing this bile. But I must admit, my apparent 'rejection of the Frisian', gave me a good chuckle!
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>>34954 >no matter how mistaken your allegiance is Seems to me you are mistaking allegiance to ones people and ancestry, for allegiance to the crown and empire You seemed particularly butthurt over the image of Britannia in OP. To you I suppose you think she embodies jewish empire as you put it, and not the Goddess Brettaniai an obvious homage to Athena with her trident, shield and centurion helmet. A personification of the islands and worshiped as a goddess for nearly 2000 years. Perhaps your right though. These bongs should do what Hitler did, when stoking nationalistic pride and fascistic ideals, and throw away all their ancient history and traditions and start...oh wait, never mind
Oh yes, everyone must be subversive semites, except for those who belong to the Anglosphere which is directly responsible for the semite's current sway over Europe and the world, fair point. You think it's irrational to hate the empire? Concentration camps against your kin, famine against your kin. It's well-deserved. To your credit you've come across as quite sensible, and adequately explained where you stand with regards to your feelings towards the empire. I didn't give you the chance to explain your position before jumping at the chance to corner you into a black or white situation, but as you stated it's rarely that simple. I myself have English ancestry from the South, although it's less than my Dutch, German, and Huguenot parts. It makes for an interesting tussle between pride and resentment. Much like the British, the Dutch kind of fucked us over too, and considering what we managed during the second war, if the Dutch had joined, we would have won. There was a time I bore that resentment towards them too, I guess I worked through it, and this discourse was important for me to see that it doesn't have to be as easy as black or white with you, just like it isn't with the Dutch. Baron specifically was influential in aiding my people from your side, and there were people from the Isles that fought with my ancestors too. So it was wrong of me to simplify this argument and in doing such imposing my own biases upon you. When I said similar beliefs, I was referring to Armanenschaft, or at least Germanic esoteric beliefs. There's also National Socialism, which is, as previously mentioned why I've been following some of your threads from your stay on a previous board, was insightful. I'm not exactly a fan pf pan-Europeanism, therefore to the second poster, it never occurred to me that you'd use a Greek goddess on your banner. I'm more of the opinion that separate tribes need to ultimately rediscover their own traditions and heathen beliefs, then form coalitions based on interest. If pan-Europeanism was a National Socialist thing, why were they willing to drive Slavs out for the sake of more territory to grow? It was useful as far as it was beneficial to the Germanic peoples. Though you could prove me wrong. Lastly second poster, you're creating a red herring, since I already mentioned I don't equate the British empire with most British people, and already indicated I understand its unnatural and subverted nature, which is why I consider it capable of treating their kin around the world in such a manner. So no they don't have to abandon their "ancient traditions" because the British empire is a relatively recent phenomena, therefore not ancient. The religious, judicial and cultural underpinning of the British people in England is for the most part steeped in Abrahamicism, therefore not indigenous or traditional to the region, but alien. Rosenberg, Himmler and Hitler all spoke of this alien element and the eventual goal of slowly eliminating it from the German people. Rosenberg specifically spoke about the radically universalist approach employed by Christianity and why the German people would eventually have to reject it to return to their true nature. Read The myth of the twentieth century.
>>34965 >Greek goddess on your banner Britannia is Roman-British first appears in the 2nd century, clearly homage to Athena but likely also to Boudica, a queen of the British Celtic Iceni tribe who lead a rebellion against against Roman rule in 60AD. Britannia is part of "their own traditions and heathen beliefs" of nationalistic Brits. >Lastly second poster, you're creating a red herring Reread you original post, and perhaps your right. Too often I see like minded allies such as yourself attacking natural allies and get defensive I guess. Apologies Anon #NoMoreBrotherWars
I did not know that this particular deity was used as such, I did know about Boudica and her ill-fated yet noble rebellion. I apologize for the two initial posts during which I was clearly being unreasonable and pitiful to an extent in trying to simplify the equation when I know well it's not the case. There is a deep wound in kinship created by many such periods and acts in history, not just the British. I was wondering why you use an imageboard instead of a private board? I'm not that tech savy and thus it appears to be a strange choice. I've been esoterically active for more than a decade now, some of those years I spent in procrastination though. I say this because I notice you post about group rituals and talk in specifics regarding dates. This is a huge mistake though based on my experience. Firstly, I know that our enemy uses magic too, but it's strangely weak in comparison to when Aryan people do group rituals, again from my personal experience. One such situation saw me working with two of your countrymen, doing a group ritual to redirect a magical attack they telegraphed using predictive programming which would ultimately result in creating another false-flag attack so as to blame whites. We successfully redirected the attack and as a result destroyed a non-European target. You could count our number on one hand and yet we could redirect such a destructive force. I've been doing similar things on a smaller scale since being out of contact with them, based on predictive programming. The point of me telling you this, is that as you know from experience on imageboards, you have shills constantly spamming undesirable things in the attempt to get the imageboards associated with things that are untrue, and eventually shut down by the feds. So it occurs to me that there might be some shills that are in fact magically active, and might listen in and redirect your intent and energy during the rituals you publicly announce. Unless you have some form of protection from that kind of thing. I apologize for the emotionally immature outpost. It's inspiring to see you working towards a goal. Good luck.
>>34984 We use an imageboard thread mainly out of tradition we originally come from 8chan we started as those who chose to stay on /pol/ after a large part of the British user base was banned for being disruptive. Another reason is that by being public we can be found by those who want to learn more, we have grown from druids we welcome all who want to try to find their roots. In addition by being openly accessible those who wish to hide their online identity with TOR or VPN are able to contribute.
Thank you for your response, it was enlightening. I guess I'll hover around until I need some questions answered or feel the need to contribute. A pleasant day to you kind sir and much luck in your struggle, which might be the same.
Anybody have any experience with this series by Avery? https://www.amazon.com/Armanen-Runes-Black-Modern-Heathenry/dp/1387868071
Get your Rain Dance shoes on lads, we’ve got forest fires. Here’s some rough coordinates to help focus. Make some offerings to Taranis, Thor, or the like if you have time lads. Most obliged in advance. .t yanklad
Salutations gentlemen, I hope this post will find you all in good health and happy days. I am making this brief post to leave a little treat I found while poring over some of my old images. It's an archive link to an old 8chan thread I believe some of you may get a kick from. /pol/ - Christian Law vs Jews and Pagans thread 2'Codex Theodasianus:Christian-Created Laws of the Roman Empire http://archive.is/Tz9lx It's not the best old fragment from that lost place, but it's still an artifact worth keeping.
>>34946 B'nai Birth-ish identity was already discussed in previous threads, Britain is a Judeo-Masonic entity meant to separate the English, Scottish, Irish etc. from their European roots, a Jewish empire with Jewish royal family and London being one of centers (if not THE center) of global financial jewry. It was modeled in accordance with Zionist imperialism, and has suffered the same fate of every other previously white country which got subverted by kikes and used by them to loot shekels and spread influence over the rest of the world. Gradual fading into irrelevance and increasingly brown/subhuman population. In several decades, Britain will probably look barely different from modern Egypt. This poz found it's way into the Druidic movement as well (just like any other native European belief), but lads here were mostly trying to reconstruct the original version of their native faith. It still has very rich history and some cool mysticism. I don't think OP put the British flag intentionally, he just wanted to summon people from /britpol/ But yes, attention should be given to such details, for Jewish subversion is everywhere. Just like they have changed the native-European equal armed cross into a long cross, completely changing it's meaning since now it actually represents the cube of Saturn. >>35094 >California Sorry lad, but those fires are not burning violently enough imo. You should move to some less decadent and less communist state.
>>35132 >California That is Oregon and Washington map. Outside of the major cities (like most states) is pretty red blooded.
>>35132 I completely understand, you put it very eloquently, and I should have probably thought of it that way from the beginning. I guess it was a combination of immaturity and false resentment against the English who have been used like the Franks before them by these parasites. I already know there are still true English around. I thank you for your patience and politeness. I hope that as time goes by, you succeed in creating more English, and less British people so that you can get along with your kin from the Low Countries. In a few days I'll be getting a rare trilogy of books from an English Ariosophist, I'll scan it and upload it here, which will probably be the first digital version of this trilogy. I'll do this in the interest of someday working with you against these receptors. Besides, I've gained plenty of interesting books from following your threads. I know of people like yourself in Flanders and the Netherlands, so you're not alone. Good luck.
>>35135 Oh, I saw when I looked at the details. Read something about fires in CA recently so I thought it was that. Which region do you live in? Gotta have some focus here. Well, hopefully it will burn less there and more in California. I know you lads are not into the dark arts, but you can see it as a neutral act since something gets burned anyway :>) And it would be more effective that way. >>35142 I'm not English m8, I just had the same suspicions but we had that straightened out a while ago. Thanks for the book scans. t. Serblad I wonder what happened to 40k and others by the way, it's been a while since they disappeared. Most likely scenarios seem to be them going innawoods, making some sort of regional-only druid/pol/ or being v& for not having a druid loicense and wrongthink.
>>35169 > Gotta have some focus here. see >>18509, I reckon
>>35169 >I wonder what happened to 40k and others by the way, it's been a while since they disappeared. I wish we were like mythical Arthurian knights, disappearing from the threads only to reappear in the future when we're needed the most. I've just been trying to get my personal life in order but recently I've been too incredibly blackpilled to post. Also I'm not really into the occult or esoteric hitlerism which seems to be what most people are into now, not that have much against that. I'd post about current events more but last time I did some non druidbro snarktard replied so I just couldn't be bothered and left the thread. Came back like a month later and it's still the same thread only like 3 posts more, lmao. Besides I'm kinda reluctant to change the feel of the thread. Miss 40k tbh and his miniatures autism. Miss druid/pol/ memes, miss threadly tarot readings, miss freeplay Thursday. Just want them back. I hope 40k is alright tho. He seemed to be having a bit of a shit time personally when he disappeared. >Most likely scenarios seem to be them going innawoods There is no innawoods in bongland. Although we do seem to have this weird magical barrier going that separates the urban from the countryside (which is mostly farm or moorland). We're not a large country but something stops the shitskins from invading Albion proper and it isn't for lack of transport or infrastructure. I guess it's the implicit whiteness of the countryside. Shitskins feel the same way snooty northern city folk of the USA feel about the South, to use an old trope, uncomfortable and out of place. >v& for not having a druid loicense and wrongthink. They're not going to catch me. Not yet anyway. They mostly go after higher profile targets atm. I honestly believe though that in 10-20 years people like me will just be murdered by hysterical mobs with the tacit approval of big tech and government. I had a dream not long ago where Amazon and payment processors gave the details of every transaction made involving blacklisted books to antifa. That's probably how it's going to go in the future. The anglosphere has gone completely insane. Hope you lads are doing well t.buxtonlad
>>35184 The anglosphere has unfortunately been insane since its inception, as myself and the other gentleman pointed out. I think the fact that you're not into the occult is probably partially responsible for your nihilism. The anglosphere is about to be fall and be replaced by the Chinese, for the Jews and their vessel (the anglosphere), this is a threat, but in reality it's a good omen. On one hand I can't stand them, but on the other, the Jews lose their hold over the Aryan world. It's been happening for hundreds of years as the Aryan unconscious tries to find ways to break through, culminating in the great storm which was National Socialism, which resulted in the correction of the Irminsul, the Germanic collective unconscious. So in a materialist sense, it may have been a loss, but in a spiritual sense it was a great accomplishment. There may be false and subverted reconstructionist attempts, but there are also true attempts, more Germanic people are practicing the ways of their volk than has been the case in over a thousand years. The Millennium empire needed to have a spiritual foundation which they did not have at the time, but is in its infancy now, having been awakened from a long slumber by the courageous sacrifice of those who came before. This spiritual core is what our enemies wanted to keep away from us, it is their undoing. For a long time they had their core, they could use their magic and esoteric practices to subvert, control, and destroy us. Now we once again have our own core, the strongest of cores. Numbers don't matter, current events do not matter. Our people were outnumbered before, conquered before, and we're still here. All we have to do for now is build that foundation, and stick around for a while. We might have to start from the bottom, which we in our luxuries are not accustomed to, but it's better than being a slave. I have the utmost belief in the prowess and destiny of my volk. I have seen us accomplish great things, even with the core component to our being missing. What we have today is something that those great men would covet to possess, and we must use it or their sacrifice will have been in vain. The jews have done so much for their people with so few a number. I'm entirely convinced that we are capable of infinitely more. So don't be discouraged, the worse it gets for these false countries in which we exist, the more people will awaken and turn to face their spiritual destiny.
>>35132 *The anglosphere is about to fall and be replaced by the Chinese, for the Jews and their vessel (the anglosphere), this is a threat, but in reality it's a good omen.*
>>35195 >The anglosphere has unfortunately been insane since its inception So has all of modern Europe, maybe since the Holy Roman Empire declined, maybe since the spread of Protestantism (which was of course started by a German), or hell, maybe even since the advent of Jewish-Christianity itself and the decline of Rome. It’s been a long decline, and ALL of Europe has followed suit to one degree or another. To place blame at the feet of anglosphere is weird. And honest, this kind of finger pointing reflects those inter-European rivalries that have decimated our people for centuries. You think we would learn by now? But sure, I guess the British have been the best at exporting the virus of modernity to all parts of the globe, but really, is that such a tragedy that conquered Africans are more fucked up now then they were before the british empire? > On one hand I can't stand them, but on the other, the Jews lose their hold over the Aryan world. The corruption goes far deeper than America or anglosphere holding global power. This goes back further than the creation of anglosphere. Remove the power of anglosphere, ok, now you still have Swedish people begging for more immigrants to ethnically replace them. Ok, you still have Western people living in toxic cities with no higher values, no meaningful hierarchy, no Gods, nothing. Just economic servitude, delusions of equality, materialism, and all the rest. This has little to do with geopolitical power of English country, we saw all of this corruption starting before the british empire took off. Just doesn’t make sense. >more Germanic people are practicing the ways of their volk than has been the case in over a thousand years. This honestly seems like pseudo-spiritual larp. In the Slavic world, we have shit like this too. Dancing around in the woods and burning effigies to vaguely defined Gods who aren’t listening anymore. Maybe you’re referring to something more subconscious and ethereal, but if you are referring to neopagan garbage like rodnovery or whatever Germanic variants are out there, yes that is a dead end, sad and pathetic
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The reality is my friend, if you can't see how the anglosphere is more responsible than any other European power in existence right now for the spread of Zionism then you're an imbecile. You point out that Protestantism is German, well guess what, so was National Socialism, the most purely European ideology in over a thousand years, perhaps even ever. "Conquered Africans", barking up the wrong tree, Africans are better off after colonialism, much better off. It's Europeans that are worse off as a result of anglosphere policies in Europe and abroad. WW1, WW2, wars in the Middle East, destabilization of the Near East and Africa which has led to mass migration into Europe in the first place etc. So the reality is, people wouldn't have these liberal values you cite in the Swedish, if the anglosphere wasn't historically fighting for Zionist causes. If you look at your city of London, your "royal family" of schlomos, and your connection to Mediterranean jewish migration which is what led to your empire in the first place, then you wouldn't have to ask stupid questions. I don't care if it seems like a larp to you, guess what, I guess the esoteric practices in Israel seem like a larp to you too? And yet they continue to dominate so much, because it isn't a larp, they just want you to think that, because you're a good slave. I'm indeed referring to esoteric aspects of the revival, but your lack of knowledge regarding how magic is done is exhibited in your dismissal of the exoteric practices of the normies. There are also more Folkish people today because of it. There don't have to be inter-European rivalries once the Anglosphere is utterly dismantled. I'm not saying that other European countries are great, but the Anglosphere is the core of the problem, the linchpin in their domination of Europe just like the Franks were. British is not a European identity, it's a judaic construct, English is European, Scottish is European, Welsh is European, Irish is European. Anybody who identifies as British is identifying as a participant in a jewish empire whether you like to admit it or not. Lastly, there is no "our people" with regards to you, Slavs aren't Germanic, they're not even completely white.
>>35204 Oh dear, you are a troubled child aren't you! >The reality is my friend, if you can't see how the anglosphere is more responsible than any other European power in existence right now for the spread of Zionism Sure, by definition Zionism is the establishment of Jewish state in middle east, the british did indeed create this! But as for the long legacy of European decline, from humanism, individualism, to capitalism and communism, these degenerations precede the anglosphere. The british were just another expression of these forces and happened to be the best at exporting them around the globe. >"Conquered Africans", barking up the wrong tree, Africans are better off after colonialism, much better off. Why, because they have cars, roads and legal systems? These things came from the same 'Jewish-British Empire' you are critiquing so viciously. Colonialism did nobody any favors. >WW1, WW2, wars in the Middle East, destabilization of the Near East and Africa which has led to mass migration into Europe in the first place etc. So the reality is, people wouldn't have these liberal values you cite in the Swedish, if the anglosphere wasn't historically fighting for Zionist causes So, let me get this straight. British geopolitical machinations are responsible for magically convincing the entire Western world to open its borders, accept millions of brown immigrants, and basically condemn their civilizations to collective ruin? Nice scapegoat! Your egotistically driven failure to notice the deeper forces at work within all of Europe, at a fundamental level, is truly amazing. But, I also realize that you are a scared child, desperately trying to cobble together some kind of empowered identity amidst this world of decay. I understand where you are coming from, but it's no excuse to lash out like a child against everyone who isn't just like you, and who are in fact potential allies. Living in Poland (which has almost no multicultural shit), I know full well the horrible situation in Germany (I assume you are German?). Your cities are overrun with brown hordes, Turks, etc. It's awful, the times I go there I feel sick, and I get why this would cause Germans frustration and lashing out (situation is the same in Belgium, Netherlands, France, maybe even worse), but still, you should grow up a little bit. >You point out that Protestantism is German, well guess what, so was National Socialism, the most purely European ideology in over a thousand years, perhaps even ever. See, I am apparently a 'subhuman Slav' and I agree with this statement! That's the beauty of letting petty, inter European resentments and egotistical bullshit go. > If you look at your city of London, your "royal family" of schlomos >Lastly, there is no "our people" with regards to you, Slavs aren't Germanic, they're not even completely white. Wait, am I a subhuman Slav or a British schlomo? You need to get your seething hatred of fellow Europeans in order! Oh, it is futile to engage with resentful children like you... I get it, your identity has been compromised by the modern world and you are lashing out like a little kid. In other words, you are taking a page out of Varg Vikerness' book! I assume you are an admirer? Haha >I don't care if it seems like a larp to you, guess what, I guess the esoteric practices in Israel seem like a larp to you too? Nope. If any such practices are occurring in Israel, I am sure they are most certainly not a larp and are quite effective! But as for Slavic, Greek, German etc, neopagan 'revivals'... well, if you want to cling to these dress up contests in the woods, then go ahead I suppose, just don't expect any results my friend!
>>35204 >Slavs aren't white >Anybody who identifies as British is identifying as a participant in a jewish empire whether you like to admit it or not. Are you actually 12 years old? Browse 4chan for the first time last night? Fuck, this place has gone downhill. My mistake for hanging about, apparently all who remain are weaponized autists like this fuckwit. Where have the true lads gone!?!?
>>35181 St. Helens looks nice, would you be able to visit some lake nearby? Water reflects etheric protuberance well. We could designate certain places and objects as communication/transference nodes, just like Judeomasons use those obelisks for spreading their influence and radiating poz. (Ancient) Druids used obelisks for similar purposes. >>35184 Perhaps to only show ourselves to the worthy. >I've been too incredibly blackpilled to post Why so? You need to learn not to simply overcome the blackpill, but to actually become more motivated by it. Things will only get worse, but you can prevail internally at least. Which will eventually give you the power to prevail externally as well. >There is no innawoods in bongland I have noticed that kikes really hate trees for some reason (and nature in general). Surely there are at least smaller forest areas? If I was living in the UK I'd probably move to Scotland. >something stops the shitskins from invading Albion proper Those lands have some powerful currents, but it's more to do with them seeking environments more suitable and welcoming for parasites. Cities are mostly filled with rootless cosmopolitans and they have larger mud population to blend into. >I honestly believe though that in 10-20 years people like me will just be murdered by hysterical mobs with the tacit approval of big tech and government And you are absolutely right. People in the west don't have history of communist purges. I see those countries becoming more and more NKVD tier every day. I checked your city on the map and saw just how barren the England is. You seem to have some cozy park nearby. >>35195 Restoring the spiritual center is most important. I wrote in previous (and other) threads how kike subversion began with religion and philosophy, which goes long time in the past, to Vedic India, or even before. Those not connected to their spiritual center of emanation will first lose their intellect, then their physical form as well. There is one thing that confuses me, I'm most likely not having any Germanic ancestry, and yet that's the center that I've been most drawn to ever since childhood. >>35197 What makes you think that the Chinese are not just their new vessel? >>35203 Rodnovery are a step above ortho-christcucks, which are a step above liberal atheists. Those people just need to go further. Russians seem very redpilled to me in general. >>35204 Inter-European rivalries are good as long as they don't result in pointless bloodshed and brother wars for Jewish interests. We are similar enough to work towards common goals, but also different enough to compete and provide actual diversity instead of having everyone ending up looking and behaving the same. Germanics have many flaws as people, despite all the qualities. The forces behind Hitler just found the best material to work with, but the creation of the Superman didn't even begin properly. Eventually, we would all become a higher form of Man, with each nation retaining it's roots and peculiarities. >>35207 >British geopolitical machinations are responsible for magically convincing the entire Western world to open its borders Well, they did play a huge part in creating the world that we see today. You'll hardly find a subversive movement in Europe where British agents weren't involved. But that's only because they were so influential in those periods, making Britain the main host of the world jewry, just like USA of today. Not because there is something inherently wrong with the English, Scottish etc.
>>35213 > Rodnovery are a step above ortho-christcucks, which are a step above liberal atheists. Those people just need to go further. Russians seem very redpilled to me in general. There is certainly a popular conception in the Western right wing circles that the Slavic world is ‘based’. Especially Russia. Harsh news, but this is false. The exact same fundamental, materialistic, modern virus which has infected all European people is present here as well, just in a much less pronounced, neoliberal, multiculti hellhole fashion. The reason for that is actually the iron curtain of communism, it actually insulated us from the Western branch of modern shit for a long time, so we are a few decades behind you in that regard. But a lot of people are begging to cacth up the wonderful ‘living standards’ of the West... stupid. As for rodnovery, I have known a lot of these people. For the most part, they are actual larpers (dress up in the woods and fight sword battles), football hooligans, new age feminine type, and a general collection of poorly developed people. There are good spiritually minded people here in our countries, but in the popular neopagan organizations, definitely not, it’s a dead end. I see the same thing in Germanic, Greco Roman, etc neopagan revivals, just well meaning but misled and confused people. Step up from christ cucks, maybe, but now we are simply comparing garbage, let’s not fool ourselves, we can do better! As for the british stuff, it’s just nonsense and scapegoating. Look at the ideological progression of Europe, at the actual fundamental level, these degenerating currents go so much deeper and further back then so called ‘British agents’ spreading subversion. At some point we need to ourselves ask why the European people (us) ACCEPTED the subversion, and went on to champion it ourselves. Subversion happens, yes, jews will be jews, we know this! It’s always easier and more satisfying to the petty ego, to point the finger at british, free masons, semite, or whoever else, then look into a mirror and realize it was our failings all along that led to this state. Once we take that responsibility true change can come.
>>35222 (checked) Not the lad you were conversing with here, but I thought I'd chime in. Considering the poz in the world, in your country, and in mine, I definitely can agree that the very root cause of its existence is failures and shortcomings in our own nations, though not in the exact same way. Whether this is itself just a natural cycle of decay as with all things given form, or if it is not, I would consider that the ancients had an understanding of such cycles and wrote about them. The Yugas, Grotti's mill, etc, all represent a natural course of time which causes a decadence. It makes me think about the existence of the Pasu, the animal-men. These beast-men which are nothing more than a construct of this demiurgic realm. Not being possessed by a spirit or soul, as both are limited in number. We all have interacted with NPCs as they now make up, seemingly, the vast majority of people. The beastmen are by their very existence entropic, and so given to the entropic forces of decay and decadence. There is a thread on 8kun right now called Ancient Jews and Mysticism which has some very good posts on the very subject. From what I have read there, I have now further confirmation to the beliefs I held about them being some form of manifestation of an entropic chaos, particularly the jews whos very beings seem to be manifestations of Sefirot/Seth, which was described as appearing as a Lombard. So, the jews are themselves the very emissary of Seth, the very emissary of chaotic entropy, and the deepest darkness. From what very little I think to maybe know, it seems to me that those of us who are a spirit possessing a body, are of divine origin and so are in our fullest divine form pure and untainted. It is our experiences here and our attachment to the animal form that makes us flawed. Another understanding I think most of Us share is that of the sleeping ones. Most of Us were asleep at some point, and I would argue still are to a large degree. When our higher Intellect sleeps, we become similar to the animal men as what remains is largely the same as the animal men. So there, at least, is one way by which this rot may pervade, a sickness of the heart and spirit, as the entropic forces and darkness within Us each here takes over. But even when I was asleep, I was not completely so, and could still know that what I did was wrong, and the way I lived was wrong, on some level. I could still differentiate love and lust, which to the Pasu are the same. Although we suffer, I would not think that we should accept the suffering. The suffering I think, is caused by an attempt to mix that which cannot, to mix the divine and the beast. To burn the candle on both ends creates smoke which obscures. I feel currently, by knowing without knowing, by intuition of the heart, that this suffering which seems currently hold you down, which once and often had held me, is due to an incorrect perspective. (cont)
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(cont) It is inevitable in Sansara, that we would experience this, but does not this offer to us a great opportunity? This world exists in each of its turns just the same as the false left-right dichotomy of politics I feel, all controlled by the demiurge so as to further corrupt us by strengthening the animal, and weakening the bond we possess to our true Selves. If the world is designed this way, then the opportunity is poses to make ourselves to be above it, to make ourselves beyond it, to struggle against it, to even if we fail, be vindicated, as we would have taken the right path, and fought against time. So let us struggle! So let us suffer, but be all the stronger for it! If you and I did not, we would not be both here discussing this, we would be writhing in putrid substance with the Pasu. For he who who will not struggle does not deserve to live, but he who struggles let him live. This Yuga is inevitable within the confines of time, under the rule of Saturn. The Golden Age will be again, as the wheel of the Yugas turns, and Aquarius begins again. It may seem hopeless, but it is not. There is hope, and our people will survive. Even should our race be destroyed in its entirety, we have been registered in Akasa, in our forms fully, so too then we can be sure that our race will return even after obliteration, even if in another of Brahmas breaths. But to our race, it would be as though just a breath, just a blink, as though waking from sleep. But I do not believe we will be destroyed. Our victory has been registered in Akasa, with the vindication of Our forces in the outer manifestation of the Struggle, with the third Reich. Now, We must only, I think, continue our struggle and fight until the end of this dark night, to survive to see the coming dawn. We will not all survive this physically with Our current vessels, but as We are not Our bodies, there is no need for fear or worry. We will continue on and once again see the Golden Age. I have foreseen it. But I know that you too know these things, at some level, even if beyond your conscious ego, you know that We will be victorious, you know that this is all as though just living again through a memory. I know this, because I know myself just well enough to know that in the way I know these things is not unique. Let quiet your animal-mind and listen to that voice which is voiceless, a soft impression which comes from within and beyond still there by some unknown point. By your heart, and by further inward still. There lies a form of you, which is more knowledgeable and more pure than the form which seems to consciously possess your body. Listen, to your Self, and if you find the way to, you have found the way to begin to live in harmony with your Self, to begin to be as You truly are, and so have found the way to greatest security. I still struggle, quite a lot, to listen to my Self, to live in harmony and in accordance to my higher Ethics, but I am still as man, as are you. I cannot, sadly, describe to you better than I have this thing, as it is beyond word, but I hope that by my writing you may find it if you have not already. I do not write this presuming myself to be more knowledgeable, nor to be write or solely correct. Neither do I write this so as to condescend, but rather, I full heartedly love my kin, and wish only to help see you through the darkness which seems to hold you, as once held me. That black-pill, or whatever term one would so desire to use, will only break one down and bring one closer to entropy. I have crossed the abyss at least three times, I wouldn't wish that torture upon any of my kin.
>>35240 >>35222 Should you so desire, I can offer my two-cents on religion as well, but I have things I need to do for a bit. It would be later today, I think before I could get to it, at the soonest. I realize that I had not directly addressed religion and as to why it is so hollow and shallow. Perhaps another lad can complete my thoughts on it before I return to, as to how the animal-men are responsible for the majority of the shallow and putrid interpretations being so widely spread. Which of course originate from the jew.
>>35239 >>35240 Great read! Despair is never the answer, serenity gifts us strength. “Before the vision of the Iron Age, Hesiod exclaimed: ‘May I have not been born in it’! But Hesiod, after all, was a Pelasgic spirit, unaware of a higher vocation. For other natures there is a different truth; to them applies the teaching that was also known in the East: although the Kali Yuga is an age of great destructions, those who live during it and manage to remain standing may achieve fruits that were not easily achieved by men living in other ages”. - Julius Evola
>>35207 Falsely equating all colonialism with the subversive element present in it is a sign of ignorance. My ancestors were traveling to and conquering different lands since before the jews were even present in Europe. The car wasn't invented by a jew, neither was the road. The jew is ultimately a parasite, it cannot invent, only subvert and manipulate. Colonialism was only "wrong" as far as it's compliance regarding their hosts' desire for world domination and the erosion of Aryans through this. Niggers have better access to food, unfortunately, than they ever had, they are not human. As far as the Chinese and Indians are concerned, having been those who gained the least, they still gained superior science, technology, philosophy, and medicine. The jew ultimately sits back and lets its host be his natural self, but twists the result thereof to benefit himself. When I refer to Zionism, I'm not referring solely to Israel, but to a grand-conspiracy encompassing everything in the modern world. 35213 answered your question for me, he also goes on to point out something I already have; "Well, they did play a huge part in creating the world that we see today. You'll hardly find a subversive movement in Europe where British agents weren't involved. But that's only because they were so influential in those periods, making Britain the main host of the world jewry, just like USA of today. Not because there is something inherently wrong with the English, Scottish etc". You don't know how true this is because your grasp of history is limited, do you know how many countries that ended up fighting for the allies wanted to fight for NS Germany, but ended up "squashing rebellions" or having leaders assassinated before it could be actualized? Same for WW1 and long before. It's exactly as I stated, and will state again, they are and have been the host, for a very long time. At the end he goes on to mention that there isn't anything inherently wrong with nationalities that comprise the British empire, which is what I've already stated if you'd scroll up. British is not an Aryan identity, it's a jewish construct created to sever those nationalities from their roots. How many British feel more kinship with punjab nigger than with a German, a Boer, or a Dutchman? The answer is most if not all, because by becoming British through the ages, they have been de-Aryanized both culturally and spiritually. You are a subhuman steppe nigger, and you agree with the statement because it's true. Ego is an important factor in Aryan being, as is exhibited in European ancestors seeking to emulate their gods, not just revere them. If you were to observe the absence of Indra, for example, in the vast majority of iterations of Hindu cults, save that which is practiced by the Kalash people, you would be able to see how fundamental blood is to spirituality. Which is to say that as the area became less Aryan, they came to replace Indra with other gods, such as Krishna, because their blood held a different destiny and spiritual nature. You do not understand this fundamental point because you're not Aryan, simple as. I already pointed out that neither a Slav nor a British individual is Aryan, so equating both as some form of "other" means that you can reasonably be both. I personally don't like much of what that individual has to say, but at the end of the day unlike you he is an Aryan, and you're a nigger, enough said. Slavs are Europeans just as Turks are, or Niggers are, they're invasive and not part of the core. You trivialize Ario-Germanic esotericism because it either doesn't make sense to you, or because it hasn't worked for you. As previously explained it's because you're not Aryan, so it wouldn't. You also go on to praise the jew's effectiveness regarding the same subject, I guess your subconscious feelings regarding the subject has been made apparent.
>>35213 Obviously there is no absolute way to be sure, however there are signs. The Chinese are strong because they've created their own from of NS, they're neither communist or capitalist. I believe the reaction of the Anglosphere in trying to constantly provoke them into war is an indication that the hosts of the Anglos fear their rise, because they do not control them. While they aren't our kin, they can still be used for our benefit. Once the Anglosphere gets eclipsed, like all hosts before it, it will ultimately enter its darkest days, maybe even a third world war will be initiated against it, which would be fine. I agree with the other poster's hypothesis regarding the "beast-men" who have no souls. Trying to awaken people with no souls has no point, that doesn't mean I don't love them, but if we are to survive it needs to be covertly, beneath the surface of their society until an appropriate foundation is constructed. This may take hundreds, maybe even a thousand years, we may need to be the underclass, but that didn't scare us before. This fear of being "poorer" or somebody being stronger than us for a little while is jewish, it's materialistic in nature. The ascent of China means the dethroning of the jews, which means that they will try their best, as is currently observable in the swing to the "right", to re-forge their hosts into a more powerful position to oppose the Chinese. This should be countered, because they'll eventually expose themselves through their inherently parasitical nature through either jumping ship, or trying to instigate revolutions that will by then be too late. With regards to your comment regarding inter-European rivalries, I agree. I simply reiterate my initial point, that Britain can never be European, since it's an artificial jewish construct with the purpose of subverting the English, Irish, Welsh, and Scottish. So my interest is twofold, the destruction of my enemy, and the revival of my brothers. I've already stated my workings with English individuals in the past, and I will continue to work with and for those that are purely English, and not the version of it not invented by the British conspiracy. The Slav is not a European in the sense of the word that I subscribe to as previously stipulated. I believe a fundamental mistake among Aryans is the habit of treating non-Aryans with the same noble nature in which we should treat each other.
>>35261 This must be the same Afrikaner cunt from earlier still shilling his nonsense. I thought you learned a lesson in not being a complete fuckwit a while ago from one of ours? Oh well, autism combined with a delusional sense of 'I ARE MOAR ARYAN DEN U R" must have fucked you to the point of no return. So what do we have here, shilling for Chinese global hegemony, stirring shit with Slavs, and just a general spew of nasty, divisive shit. And this was a head scratcher > How many British feel more kinship with punjab nigger than with a German, a Boer, or a Dutchman? The answer is most if not all Sonny, I can't speak for all the lads still poking around here, but you can kindly fuck off. You're tirades are worth a smirk or two, but i'll be damned, you are one disturbed little fucker. If you want to wank about with your Germanophile crowd or whatever other rabbit holes you've crawled into, that's fine, but this isn't the spot. Ah well, I'm sure you'll reply with another long winded emotionally triggered rant, and the bloody Slavs will probably want a word with you as well... fuck it.
>>35184 It's good to see you're still around buxton fpt here it's been too long I'm glad I'm not the last brit left, good to see serblad and yanklad too. 40K's prolonged absence has become concerning to me too he wouldn't go dark without a good reason I fear he's gotten the "visit" like punished did or is involved in some other irl drama. I miss our traditions too I'm keeping up with the 20th cycle I find it's helping me a lot. It's difficult when the thread is so slow and especially when shills and idiots use it as a battleground. Nonetheless we endure, the cycle continues and we will make a better world.
>>34947 Here’s a few good books lad. You’re more than welcome to ask any questions. https://mega.nz/folder/uSpnUKLL#pHKGZYTwANw9hx3umjj9_w >>34948 Top notch lad. >>34954 >It is clear that while we hold similar values, your group clearly still stand behind the British system. Fuck you nigger newfag, our beloved OP may have been v& by the British system. No one here is loyal to the current crown and parliament. >>34984 >I was wondering why you use an imageboard instead of a private board? The other lad covered it well, but we also stay public so we can spread the good word, and teach the lurkers. >>35169 South of Mount Saint Helens, right where the zoomed in picture is. The winds have died down and that particular fire has stopped growing. It’s supposed to rain on Thursday as well. >>35262 >Sonny, I can't speak for all the lads You have my proxy lad. Good to see you again. >>35260 >but at the end of the day unlike you he is an Aryan, and you're a nigger, enough said. Slavs are Europeans just as Turks are, or Niggers are, they're invasive and not part of the core. I’m not him, but fuck right off cunt. >>35222 (observed) >At some point we need to ourselves ask why the European people (us) ACCEPTED the subversion, and went on to champion it ourselves. Kali Yuga plus Christianity. Good post lad. >>35239 >>35240 Most excellent poetry lad.
>Slavs aren’t white
>>35278 only northern slavs are white anon
>>35262 >and the bloody Slavs will probably want a word with you as well Eh, no need or desire, the kid is too far down his own rabbit hole as it’s been said. I think most folks here grasp that he is either a trolling shill spreading low tier subversion, or more likely, is a genuinely fucked up Afrikan who has had his resentful mind poisoned by his unfortunate environment. Further engagement with the wacko will lead to further nonsensical rants, no one wants that. >>35239 Well that was a gem! These things are why I like coming back here. Keep doing your stuff lads, onwards!
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>>34885 Indeed brother. I saw Orion's Belt in the sky and prayed /our/ ancestors ride with us into the coming battles on the horizon. Soon lads.
>>29434 >>29436 I can't sleep at night anymore. I'm so afraid of death. I was killed horribly in my past life. It hurts and scares me so much. All the evil in the world pains me because I remember it from before.
>>35302 >>35302 >I'm so afraid of death. I was killed horribly in my past life. It hurts and scares me so much. All the evil in the world pains me because I remember it from before. I’m sorry to hear that lad. I was as well, in several turns of the wheel. Twice in the same tunnel 2000 years apart. It serves as a reminder to strive for better, the prepare more. you have the knowing of reincarnation, then you should take heart that the fear is irrational. 2 full moons in October. The first a micro one, the second larger (the blue moon). They occur on the 1st and last days of the month. The moon born between them is in its closest orbit (a strong birth). This all occuring in the month of the dead.
>>35303 I remember the nightmares from when I was a child, waking up screaming, seeing something from the sky come down, impact, heat, death. "They're all dead" I remember sobbing that sentence over and over.
I'm not trying to larp guys, sorry. I am serious about not being able to sleep. Light and love to everyone
This a message for (you): May you be well and happy. May you be at peace. May your heart remain open. May you realise the beauty of your own true nature. May you be healed. May you be a source of healing for this world.
>>35311 (observed) Thanks lad. >>35304 I never had nightmares from it, but my last death was very similar. Buried alive for a few days. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_embassy_bombing
Anyone have some good info on wards?
I don’t know if this will go through cause phoneposting, but I am alive, and well. Made it through the storm, and am now waiting for the power to be connected. t. Owllad.
>>35349 Glad you and the family are alright lad.
Last two effort posts were lost lads >>>/meta/1512 Sorry
>>35418 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >>35213 >>35270 Buxtonlad here again Sorry lads, I did reply to your posts but as you can see the jannies did a retard. Not sure if anyone replied to me or not either. Anyway just want to repeat concerning 40k. I'm subbed to his youtube. Would it be too stalky to leave him a message on his discussion page? I never interacted with him there and I'm kinda hesitant to bother him.
>>35452 Up to you as to contacting 40k I didn't know he was on yt remember everything on there is monitored so I'd suggest a burner account if you do.
>>35303 >astrological portents Most intruiging. The coming solstice will have a conjunction which occurs only once every 2000 years. I have a feeling we are in for a ride beyond what we have seen even thusfar this year. Things are about to get interesting, I think. Already are, really. All in all, I have a good feeling about it. My subtler sights seem to be a bit clearer today, and I feel a coming collective breath of relief. A collective elation. I cannot say the day it will come, but I recall that I had felt the negative aetheric consequences of this year all throughout the previous year. If that is anything to gauge by, we may be looking at a very good year next year for us. On the flipside of that however, I have seen another possible future, in which martial law was declared and the military was used to force Bill Gate's genetic modification vaccine on people. As I saw it, they will set up centers like with the swine flu, but each will be manned by the military. The vaccination would be mandatory, though I did not see anything regarding those that refused to get it. I had the sense that travel was heavily restricted, possibly even with the military establishing checkpoints along major roads in cities, though didn't see it. If that particular future comes to be, I anticipate a timeframe of within the next few months. The other events that I saw going on put it somewhere around next month though. But I will avoid using certain language regarding that possible future, as as of late the futures which I have foreseen have all been off by some degree. Some hands are playing which have been influencing the courses of time. Or perhaps, these have always been at work, and this was the natural course. I'll keep my eyes open, but I can see a shift in the current happening. I can't help but feel that higher forces are at work which have been subtly shifting the timeline causing my foresight to be off. But all the same, the Kali Yuga must still play out. I cannot say for absolute certain what the future will hold, only gauge my current perceptions of it. Stay safe lads. Things will get better eventually, even if I'm wrong on the time frame. I know I've shared this a lot, I thought I'd let the lodge know that I still perceive it. >>35349 Good to hear from you Owllad. It's good to hear that you are alive and well. The threads have really slowed to a crawl, but the lodge itself will endure. Hope you and your family are well and remain well!
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>>29430 >>35494 Stay strong brothers, winter is coming.
>>35213 >Restoring the spiritual center is most important. I wrote in previous (and other) threads how kike subversion began with religion and philosophy, which goes long time in the past, to Vedic India, or even before. Those not connected to their spiritual center of emanation will first lose their intellect, then their physical form as well. This is extremely important. We must begin by restoring our connection to God, free of all the kikery Jesus-worship and assorted shit.
I love you all lads I'm getting really depressed lately, especially because I miss the old chans. And it saddens me a lot to see these threads slowing down, even though I try not no come too often since I'm not strong enough to face the reality. I wish there was some place we could all meet and share ideas, maybe some telegram channel, I don't know. I'm really retarded with technology. I'll try to apply for the phoenix project then, hope the app runs on my shitty computer. Hail to you, Hail to the oldfags who left.
>>35460 I think I'll leave him be tbh, he knows where we are. He updated one of his playlists a few days ago so he's not in jail at least. If some happening like say the US election or something doesn't bring him back by the end of the year then I'll contact him. >>35494 >I have seen another possible future, in which martial law was declared and the military was used to force Bill Gate's genetic modification vaccine on people. I don't think that will come about now. By the time a vaccine is ready corona virus will be history, not that they won't try and force vaccines on people in the future when some new plague arises. They've planted the seeds for all kinds of things this year. For instance i've seen people in media and education pushing the idea that lockdowns should be used to "help fight climate change". >>35611 >I'm getting really depressed lately, especially because I miss the old chans. Same, I'm still recovering from the loss of 8chan. That's probably why I still go back there sometimes but it's not the same. >I wish there was some place we could all meet and share ideas, maybe some telegram channel, I don't know. I'm considering getting on Telegram and using it on my computer. I need to get myself an anonymous sim and phone first though before they make them illegal. Have you heard of Urbit? I really want to get on that but I don't have a linux machine atm and I think I'm going to wait until next year when they bring out the finished OS3. I got myself a planet with a cool swastika sigil though. Everyone should get one so we can have our own digital grove and never have to worry about being censored ever again. >>35583 Nice. It just turned cold where I am too. Bless us Winterchan!
>>35611 >hope the app runs on my shitty computer. Element is about the same size as Dicksword (about 200-400MB memory while running) There are variety of apps for windows, linux or phone. Element (formally known as Riot) https://element.io/get-started is most popular There is some more here https://matrix.org/clients/ Matrix is opensource that's why there are so many available. Your can also access though a VPN'd web browser, including Tor https://app.element.io/#/welcome
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>>35613 >Have you heard of Urbit? This Urbit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbit#Politics_and_controversy Based. Though Linux only app will limit user base. There's 10's of thousands on Matrix servers now, plus other smaller servers using Matrix protocols.
I tried to post a response the other day, and it wouldn’t let me. Thought we had reached our bump limit. Thanks for the pleasantries. My black metal project is up, and running. I have recently been spotting egrets around me. I must ponder what this means. t. Owllad
>>35613 I have an Urbit star which I don't really have much to use for yet, if it can be used to help the Lodge somehow, I'm all for it
>>35617 Yeah that's it. Last I checked they were working on rolling out for windows and android or they were at least planning to. Don't know about apple but probably as one of their intentions is to break big tech. It's not really normie friendly atm either which is why I'm waiting till next year. Matrix looks cool, reading about it now. >>35645 Egrets are a type of Heron? A quick search on their folklore and symbolism doesn't reveal much. In ancient Rome they were "a bird of divination that gave an augury (sign of a coming event) by its call, like the raven, stork, and owl." >>35655 Cool, if I understand correctly star's are used for providing Urbit's infrastructure andd can operate something like an ISP. How did you get one btw?
>>35662 By reading a whole ton of neoreaction, and keeping an eye on Moldbug when he moved on. Got it in their first crowdfunding attempt.
>>35667 Nice, definitely hold on to it. I'm actually surprised to find anyone here with knowledge of nrx/Moldbug. Most people on /pol/ aren't into his work for various reasons. I'm subbed to Grey mirror.
>>35662 yeah, they're all white with orange beak, and black legs. most everything I have found says an up coming event, or an event of good fortune, but to be opportunistic and determined in pursuing said event.
>>35611 (observed) Sorry your depressed lad, it’s a sad state of affairs to be sure. We will endure. Join the Phoenix project, it’s pretty comfy and the people are friendly. There’s a fair amount of esoteric/pagans there as well. >>35613 >He updated one of his playlists a few days ago so he's not in jail at least. That’s great to hear. I was about to start calling hobby shops on his Isle.
>>35611 Not all of us are gone, just like the land we revere we endure. >>35613 Good sense there I suspect there's a good reason 40k stopped posting but all I can do is speculate. >>35645 Iirc egrets have significance in the old Egyptian polytheism, might be thework of kek?
>>35613 >>35615 >>35729 Allright I'll send the mail I had to get a mac for movie school purposes, so I might be the worst chan dweller in history. Anyway if it doesn't work it'll finally be time to get a (((smartphone))) Thanks a lot lads
>>35756 Good luck lad
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No idea what his autistic Apollonian thing is all about and I never liked the guy because he thinks Odin is a jewish invention or whatever his stupid theory is, but this was almost a good tweet. The Gods aren't mere "symbols" of our racial ancestors, our ancestors literally traced their ancestry back to the Gods. He's right about the paradise bit though.
>>35809 Could we have some more context please?
>>35836 Just a tweet I saw. Mark Brahmin hangs around Dicky Spencer. He's a fucking of a mong tbh but he has a following somehow. His Apollonian thing seems to be an attempt to parse Indo-European myth in order to discern what he thinks is its true original state. He does this by claiming that the entirety of Germanic myth was actually written by jews and that Germanic pagans were converted to this faith by jews before Christianity was even a thing. He thinks that true Aryan religion is some kind of solar cult of Apollo or something, even though Apollo's roots are probably Mesopotamian. That's about as much as I can make out. That's about as much as I want to know tbh. He comes out with some truly caved in head retard shit like Thor is jewish because he was depicted with red hair. Read and weep at his theory of Odin's ravens being symbols of racial cuckoldry. https://archive.is/zSbxw He just pulls shit out of his arse and calls it a theory. He's been BTFO by STJ more than once.
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Newly discovered grave of a 6th century pagan Anglo-Saxon warlord/tribal leader dubbed the "Marlow warlord" has been excavated. https://archive.is/hXwSY >The area in which the warlord was found was previously considered to be a ‘no man’s land’ without any fixed boundaries of its own - in between the kingdom of Kent to the south and the east and Wessex to the west and the north. grave goods included decorated spears bronze and glass vessels, dress-fittings, shears, other implements and "a sword with an exceptionally well-preserved scabbard" https://archive.is/qVNZL
>>35748 >kek things are so bad right now, don't invoke that god of chaos on me, lad haha if y'all are going element/riot, I have that. don't really use it much, though
>>35848 Definitely comes off as a mong from that description, I wonder what his (((agenda))) might be >>35850 Look after yourself lad, be well.
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Sup /Druid/bros, I miss you glorious bastards. The world's been losing it's fucking mind with >Corona-Chan >Race Riots >Murder Hornets >Economic Devastation >Draconian Lockdowns >Election Hysteria >Potential Mandatory Vaccination and I can't help but think the 2020 Rites might have accelerated things in the "right" direction. I haven't been able to participate in every Rite this year or posting due to life business, but I've kept you all in my thoughts, that your Rites will bring forth many righteous Keks for generations to come. Murdoch Murdoch released a new video that pretty much sums up my mood and fits the theme of the thread well. Stay Based. https://www.murdochmurdoch.net/video/?play=Wizards%20and%20Bros
>>35864 >Murder Hornets What's that, lad? >I haven't been able to participate in every Rite this year or posting due to life business Don't worry about it, life happens and things have been rather quiet here of late anyway. As long as somebody from the lodge is doing it I guess it still counts but obviously it's better the more of us participating. I'll be doing this month's. Is anyone doing anything special for Samhain/Alfablot/Halloween? Last year I visited ancestor graves but I'm not sure I'll be able to do that this year. Anyone doing anything more esoteric/occult rites etc? >Wizards and Bros That was the first Murdoch Murdoch I ever watched. Pretty good lmao.
>>35864 Thanks for stopping by it gladdens the heart takes me back to the old days.
>>35848 Apollo is god of hyperborea
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>>35884 There was an outbreak of Asian giant hornets in the States a couple of months ago at the height of Corona-Chan hysteria, the keks were magnificent. >First time watching Murdoch Murdoch Lucky bastard. You're in for a real treat I tell ya. <https://www.murdochmurdoch.net/archive/ I recommend watching the Meme War Timeline first, then get into their Sitcom Timeline why you get the chance. Oh, and watch >The Last Son of The West >Metamorphosis >The Rabbit Hole >MYTHOS You won't regret it. Thank me later... >>35886 Feels good to be home...
Not long until the next rite lads. I missed the last one due to work and being a materialist faggot. By the time I realized I missed it the date had already well passed by. I'll be making some revisions, not sure if I'll manage to complete them, but I will likely share individual portions of the rite I intend to complete, with enough time for any lads so inclined to adopt them. I'll look into including a runic portion, like with that performed for the charge rite. I'll likely repeat the same rite again come new year's eve, as a reflection of the mirror nature of the year, but use a new runic mantra/rite portion for the remaining rites of the 12. Though, there is an argument to be had that by the mirror nature of the year, it may be best to remain consistent with prior rites.
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>>35910 Nice, I'll be watching these over the wekend. >>35923 >I'll be making some revisions, not sure if I'll manage to complete them, but I will likely share individual portions of the rite I intend to complete, with enough time for any lads so inclined to adopt them. I'll look into including a runic portion, like with that performed for the charge rite. Interesting, looking forward to what you come up with lad. Only 3 rites left now. Do we do December's rite on Christmas eve like the original charge expulsion rite? Do we use December's rite to start the cycle again for next year and expell a new charge? I feel like we've all built up a lot of magickal energy this year, both from absorbing the energy of this years events and such just like the original charge and through completing rites every month for the lodge. Pic related. Also getting a bit emotional reading that pic. I wasn't there on nanochan but I managed to find the lodge again in time to take part in the charge expulsion rite. I know I said I wasn't going to but I think if 40k hasn't returned by December I'll contact him as discreetly and as cryptically as I can. Feels bad he might miss it. He's been a pillar of our lodge community since it started. Since he started it!
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This is interesting. There's no paper associated with it, seems it was just a video presentation given for an archaeology conferance. One thing I found when looking for paper evidence is that modern genetics and archaeology is irredeemably cucked. I mean we knew already but the actual extent of this insanity is stunning. Max Planck Institute is some research society based in Germany but they have statements on their website beating their chests and wailing at American racism and affirmations for themselves to be less racist. One day when I have the money I'll turn the B.ON.D into an irl Ahnenerbe
>>35923 >>35925 >Christmas eve Right, meant to go with the same date. Had it in my head that it was new year's eve for some reason. Odd, considering I was on Nano. Long year, I guess. >rites It's quite the question. Wish 40K was here to chime in. Last time I was able to come up with the Runic mantra, it was intuitive. It was like I already knew what it was going to be when I decided to do it. Though I feel like it would be fitting, that intuitive knowledge just isn't there this time. I think that maybe while I'd like to do it, it isn't synchronistic. Perhaps I should forego the addition of the runic mantra? I'm not quite sure. I'll have to spend a bit more time thinking about it. Perhaps if I can get myself to be a bit more in tune I'll realize something. Tangentially related, I saw an image of some of the oldest known writings, and the symbol thought to be used for "god" in iirc, Sumerian, was an eight-pointed star. Should have saved it.
>>35925 I'd suggest keeping it to the 20th to keep the cycle consistent nothing to stop you performing another rite on the solstice though.
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>>35974 I like it
>>35948 Perhaps take some time out to read something related you find enjoyable/interesting then try some meditation. Works for me when I'm in need of inspiration. >>35956 Yes I agree lad, there's really no need to choose between the 20th and the 24th. We can do both. Complete the 20th rites and do a charge expulsion rite again on the 24th if we choose to. I think we should do another charge rite but I won't try and get a decision from the rest of the grove until nearer the time. See how we feel after the American elections next month. >>35973 >Trick or treating with my daughter. Then spook Druid stuff afterwards. I haven’t decided any specifics tbh. It will be a blue moon that night you know. Sounds cozy. Also I've never seen a blue moon before, hope it's visable. >OC kek, nice. Honestly not sure how I feel about Trump winning tbh. There's no good outcome to this election. If Trump wins or if it's close and he tries to claim victory America is going to explode. Not sure how that plays out long term though. A Biden victory would be bad long and short term. I know it's just a puppet show but it still matters. Public mood and (((media))) narratives are what embolden anti-white forces to act.
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Forgot this. Spooktober has some interesting astrological events happening.
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>>29430 Bought this just now. $7usd ebook. Looks a lot like what we've all been talking about for the last several years. I'll look into what is required to de-drm it so I can upload it here (too new for libgen and b-ok to have it) for you, but failing that it's cheap
>>36016 Looks really interesting. All the more so knowing the author is a Ukrainian Russian of German roots. I want to see more stuff like this coming out of Russia. I wonder how big the Germanic/Scandi pagan movement is there. I know they have Russian pagan movements and also a lot of strange other religious movements.
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Hello druid/pol/. I remember you guys from 8/pol/ and found you here after looking for you. Anyway, the reason I looked for you is because I have been wanting to convert to paganism, however I have not done a DNA test yet and even then I have no idea where to begin. Please help this lost newfag. And feel free to call me a faggot
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>>36022 Hello fren and welcome. You don't need a DNA test in order to choose a tradition. Can one even choose a tradition? I'm not sure they can. I wasn't born into a pagan faith but I've always felt a fascination, connection and proximity to the Germanic tradition, the Anglo-saxon and the Nordic. I feel like it was always there as a part of me since I was a child, drawing me in more and more until I can finally say I am at home. As far as my ancestry goes I'm a bong, Anglo-Irish with some Scandi ancestry but I didn't know that until recently. I'm assuming you're American. Do you have any feeling for any particular tradition. Do you have any clues as to your ancestry at all? If you don't know it doesn't matter but I guess it can help. On the other hand lets say you are of Irish extraction, it isn't a barrier to becoming involved with Germanic traditions. The Celts are north west Europeans as are the Germanics. Their mythology and Gods might seem different to each other on the surface and their cultures separated by language but they share the same roots. Ethnic lines can also be quite blurred genetically speaking in northern Europe so if you don't know wouldn't worry too much about your exact ancestry as long as you're pretty sure you're of West European exraction. I will say one thing and that is that America has a thriving Germanic/Asatru scene and also some of this traditions most important thinkers/philosophers are American so it would be very easy for you to get into. We can give you all sorts of book recs and ebooks and stuff if you like. Pics related are just a few. Also you might already know this guy but Tom Rowsell AKA "Survive the Jive" does a lot of accessable paganism videos for beginners on his channel. Hope some of my waffling was useful!
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>>36017 Getting good already
>>36022 (observed) Welcome lad, a portentous first post. We’ll absolutely help you get started. I wouldn’t take the risk of a dna test unless you’re concerned about non-white dna. It would be better to start asking grandparents about their grandparents surnames and start looking into their etymology and origins. Or if you feel strongly drawn to one deity or pantheon already, then start reading into that. I’ll post some PDFs a bit later. I like your pic btw.
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"Let us introduce a nuance in understanding the fight, combat, battle which uncovers a fine distinction between the possible authenticity and non-authenticity of Dasein on the battlefield. A warrior may advance to face his enemy in two different ways. First is to don one’s best war gear, chain mail, guards, noble helmet, to take the sword adorned with gold, mount a stately warhorse, surround oneself with an equally noble and impressive suite, ensigns, flags, and command to blow into horns and beat the drums. Second is to face the enemy bare, smeared with soot or ash, intoxicated with substances, or in a frenzy without any external impact, with only a simple and reliable sword and a wooden shield. The first is the konung, jarl, king as an embodiment of the will to power, who shares some of his status with things (a personalized sword, ensign, decorated horse) and delegates it to the suite (noble clans, sons, vassals). The heat of belligerence here is abated by the beauty of representation of might (Macht) through surrounding people and things, for such beauty demands ipso facto power and will to not let it go, to keep it by the lord. At the same time it does not mean that such a warrior lacks valour, courage, the knowledge of martial art, the skill and the nobleness of prosecution of war. But this environment of luxury, of things and men, already dissembles a distance and alienation from the element of war, the conversion of its flames into the lustre of dress, of gold, of fame. This is the path of the warrior of the Right Hand. The second path is the one of the warrior whose nature is closer to the element of war, frenzied and in divine possession of the As Odin. He is perfectly indifferent to the material store and property he might or might not have. He enters the battle as if he were already dead, non-present as a person, but only a warrior for the sake of the battle here-and-now, during which he blazes up with an authentic mode of being. The vivid examples of such warriors are berserkers and úlfhéðnar (wolf warriors) and mythical einherjars, who spend their days fighting each other. De-personalization of such a warrior is conducted not only through de-identification with material attributes (getting bare-chested, smearing with dirt and ash, intoxication), but sometimes through possession by a beast’s spirit — the one of a bear or wolf, which he had to overcome during the initiation and gaining aegis of this beast as a martial totem. For such a warrior the battle-and-death is the life-here-and-now. While life and death here is correctly understood not through dialectics of thesis and antithesis which are sublated in the synthesis of transfer “through death to a new life.” On the contrary, life and death must be comprehended literally as simultaneous, synchronous, as the same one action indeed, in the spirit of Zen-koan that breaks conventional and customary logic (generally speaking, it should be renounced at all, when it comes to myth and the question of beyng). Only when openly going to his doom, the warrior is living a fully authentic life. During a truce a warrior lives the life “borrowed” from death and the battle to be. This is the path of the warrior of the Left Hand." ~Svarte, Gods In The Abyss
>>36072 Reminds me of Hagakure. Faced with a choice between life or death the warrior should always choose death. The warrior's way is found in embracing death and one should rehearse their death every day and live as though one is already a corpse. Only then can the warrior find freedom in the martial way.
I don't know what to think by returning here. I have several posts to check. Noa, time 2 fink. 2020 Looks like we were right. Crooked noses and their dear friends are all into maximizing the looshing too it seems. Large scale arson, human herding, repeated humiliation, heightened violence, destruction of speech, this does not stop. I know this BOND thing was, at least initially, in a large part made of larping, but there were honest lads here who contributed to these threads and openly shared clear minded thoughts on what could happen this year. Main leader is gone too, maybe this adventure has reached its term and we need to move on to something new. Yet I cannot help thinking that we did have a tingling sense of something greater bound to come, as if we reached above mere speculation. Certainly, today is the day we have to move beyond left and right handed paths and become whole, both stars and black holes, of pure gold and sheer blackness. >>36016 If you manage to remove the DRM protection, you'd be an angel really since this books sounds very interesting.
>>36084 Sorry the formatting in these copypastes are so fucked "Another Icelandic word translated as giant, titan is Jötun or Jötna, a masculine noun from the strong verb “eta,” meaning “to eat,” “to eat up.” Therefore the name Jötnar stands for the “gorging,” “devouring.” As long as this process gives name to them, it might be inferred that such endless devouring is provoked by an endless hunger that is shortage, deficiency, which cannot be satisfied. Eating is an act of appropriating, placing food or anything that sinks in the mouth into oneself, into a cramped chthonic womb. Jötnar are “cold-blooded” creatures, icy and suffering an endless hunger, shortage, deficit — according to their nature. But the question is: why is a Jötunn called hrímkalda, mildly-cold, non-frosty instead of hot, which would be natural if it comes to devouring things and hiding them in the womb? It is supposed to be hot where things are digested, being treated with heat and acids to be broken down. But Jötnar are hrímkalda, rime-giants. A constant hunger, essential indigence coupled with not hot but a cold womb, present a chthonic appropriative nature of these giants in Germanic myth. Their perception is the perception of devouring, even fire is perceived as merely the fastest and most ravenous devourer of all (see “The Ballad of Alvís”; the tale of Thor’s travel to Utgard in the Prose Edda book Gylfaginning, chapter 44). The Jötnar devour all things in existence without digesting, they only hide, appropriate to their wombs with no purpose of remaking, converting things into something new, they cannot help but shove everything into their buried rocky rime bosoms, they act only by operation of indigence. Translating the simple, as it seems, statement that Ymir was a rime giant, we tend to use a simple image, which our mind promptly offers of a gigantic creature with blue skin covered with hoarfrost and ice. But doing so, we miss the essential understanding of this mythological figure. In “The Prophecy of the Völva,” she states that the first entities to emerge from the Gaping Abyss were Jötnar, the devouring. But is it possible for them, as for any other figures and things, to emerge prior to their essence, and to become what they are, to become essential afterwards? Were this the case, certain entities would have emerged, which later, in the process of devouring, would have become “the devouring creatures,” Jötnar, therefore obtaining their essence. But the Völva is unambiguous: Ek man jötna — “Jötnar I remember” — that is, those-who-are-already-Jötnar. So the essence of “the devouring Titans” is not constant eating upon their emergence; by which they gain their name and nature, but the other way around: Jötnar emerge only because and when a devouring indigent essence present. A Jötunn is a Jötunn because he devours, or rather he is-as-the-devouring. He exists-in-devouring; in other words, the material incarnation of a Jötunn surges to meet its essence, which is “to-be-through-devouring.” So, hrímkalda jötun, the rime giant, is to be understood as “one who devours [things] in his poverty and conceals them in the rime-frosty entrails of the earth.” So, concealing of things is what the emergence of the “already-devouring” directly owes to. Ymir is the chief giant, or the first one, according to some sources. Slaying him, the Aesir create the world. It is described as re-naming his body parts: the bones become mountains; the skull becomes the heavens; the brain becomes the clouds, etc."
Continued: "What we clearly observe here is a common Indo-European motif of the proto-being dismemberment and fashioning the world out of his parts (see the myths of the cosmic man Purusha) and also a common magical practice of enchanting through the name, naming and re-naming things, casting a spell over one thing by giving it a name, and thus — the essence, of another thing. According to this, Ymir is pictured as an anthropomorphous creature, whose anatomic structure can be disassembled into separate organs, which can be assigned a new, elemental, rather than organic, nature. But following the understanding exposed above, Ymir appears to be of not biological, anthropomorphic, organic or natural nature. His nature is to conceal things in the cold bowels of the Earth through devouring them in his poverty. The devoured things are not digested, but only deprived of their own essence and life in the lightless realm, in some sort of [a transient] nonexistence, denial of things’ present being, of their representation as “here I am, alive and functioning, etc.” From this point of view, the slaying of Ymir, who was honoured as the main devourer, and further fashioning of the world — is discharging of the concealed in the womb after the death of the “devouring poverty.” Ymir’s scale is better understood given the fact that from his concealing womb the whole Germanic Cosmos comes out in its ordered form. To draw an analogy with re-naming magic dealing with Ymir’s body parts, we may say that, if the essence of Jötunn’s unparted existence is “to-conceal-through-eating-out-of-poverty,” then his death is the opposite: the revealing-through-non-concealment of the holistic integrity of things. What has been deprivation, reduction to a sort of nonexistence (non-presence), upon death turns into (being renamed) sufficiency, abundance, bringing everything to an ordered presence — which is the main content of the Greek term “κόσμος,” Cosmos. It is the Aesir who eliminate poverty, bringing Cosmos to an order and presence, a natural abundance. Now that we know more about the nature of the conflict between the Jötnar and the Aesir, we may notice that the metahistorical Titanomachy of the Aesir and Jötnar is the battle of the Gods and on the one hand and the indigence, deprivation, concealment-as-appropriation of the light by the chthonic Earth, concealment of the order of the universe (making it merely disappear or being scattered), the attacks of the “devourers” against non-concealed being — on the other. Once again we encounter war in the very foundation of the world. Characteristic traits of swallowing Titans can be plainly observed in the figures of the wolf Fenrir and the dog Garm who swallow the sun, the moon, and Odin during Ragnarök. The same traits can be found in a more distant reflection in folklore — in the grim (if read not sanitized, without modern adaptations) European fairy tale “Little Red Riding Hood,” where the Big Bad Wolf swallows her and her grandmother whole. The word Þurs in Old Icelandic means either “giant” or “sullenness.” Etymologically the root goes back to the Teutonic *thurs, from the Proto-Indo-European *ters, which means “dry.” The modern English “thirst” originates from the same root, the verb “thirst” has the shade of want, indigence — a typical Titanic trait of the Titans."
>>36084 I've looked into it and I don't think I can get hold of the right tools to do it. Calibre Add-ons and so on. But it is only $7usd so there's that
>>35809 Yep. I pity those who imagine Paradise as an extension of multikulti globohomo. >>35848 >Jews, capable of writing something as deep and rich as Scandinavian/Germanic lore and sagas TOTALLEL The far right has so many odd hats on the esoteric side. :((( >Read and weep at No. >STJ Hey, there's some controversy about him lately. >>35849 I'm honestly surprised that in the demented times we live in, relatively normal archeology can still be allowed to proceed. How will Masons and Jews manage to erase our solid history? Any idea? >>35855 >(((agenda))) Poisoning the well for people who are naturally pulled towards antisemitism. The hope is to disgust us from what is our path to salvation. I have met a man who tried something similar, but in a much more insidious way. >>35904 Yes, so maybe he's going for some D&C, with pushing Apollo into a strictly Mediterranean context. North Vs (ex-Aryan) South. >>35925 >what date for December? Very good question. 20th remains important but it's close to a unique date too. As >>35956 suggested, keep on track with the regular rite and do something /cozy/ for the solstice. >>35935 >Maximum Board Institute How the fuck did they manage to grab so much DNA to do their shitty study? I for one know no one who got kindly prompted into sharing some spit or blood. Oh wait. 80 DEAD INDIVIDUALS FROM 8 CEMETERIES Only my little dingy gets excited here at the sekrit fact that 80+8 delivers.
>>36085 >>36086 Can't discern what he's trying to say here. >>36084 Welcome back, lad. >Main leader is gone too He'll be back one day I'm sure of it. 40k is held in high esteem here but he's not our leader. We don't really have one of those. Kind of impossible to have leaders when you're an imageboard only organization, in the material realm at least. I wouldn't be aagainst having a leader and some kind of hierarchy if we were an irl org though. >maybe this adventure has reached its term and we need to move on to something new. Maybe. We still have lads here doing the rites and such. I'm just going to carry on posting here regardless, keep the flame alive even if it's just a candle. >>36088 >Hey, there's some controversy about him lately. What's the word? Though if it has anything to do with Varg it's probably bullshit. >How will Masons and Jews manage to erase our solid history? Any idea? Modern academia is peopled by women and soycucks. They own every history departement in every uni in the western world and they already tried to erase the word Anglo-Saxon. They failed but next time they'll succeed. As for archaeology I expect they'll carry on digging stuff up but they'll apply their own gender and race theories to whatever they find. The Soviet Union had marxist archaeology where everything was interpreted through marxist theory. >80 DEAD INDIVIDUALS FROM 8 CEMETERIES KEK! Didn't clock that. You got the dubs too!
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>>36100 >Can't discern what he's trying to say here. Me neither. Wall of text not helping here. >What's the word? Though if it has anything to do with Varg it's probably bullshit. Nah, no Varg but some pics got posted, he and gf (now wife iirc) with kosher people, and the guy is shown with yet a strong Christian bent to his faith and beliefs. But stuff is several years old (not a full decade tho), so benefit of doubt is affordable. Knowing where I come from and the people I came close to, any such file on me less than a decade old would also raise some flags. Yet, there I am. >marxist archaeology If such a thing could even exist... I guess they'll memory hole it most of the time. It's like how in the US any skeleton that's 500 years old or more is automatically given back to redskins, because wyts could obviously never have walked this continent at all before. >KEK! Didn't clock that. You got the dubs too! Thx. Old habits teeheehee.
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Evening lads how'd your rituals go?
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This excerpt is good, about how the Progressive core of fascism alienated it's intellectual founders
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Does Druid /pol/ do tarot
>>36138 >the guy is shown with yet a strong Christian bent to his faith and beliefs. I can't say I've ever detected that from him but I know he's always been a perennialist since I first discovered him. He was married in a cathedral. I don't doubt his commitment to paganism though because no real Christian would disavow Christianity like I've seen him do in the past. I count myself A pagan but even I will attend church on occaision with family. >>36152 While it's true that the Reformation stripped Christianity of its Pagan trappings I'm more in agreement with Stephen Flowers that the Reformation was a true expression of the Germanic spirit. Not that it really matters to people today trying to revive our old ways. >>36153 Evening lad. My ritual went well even if it was a little basic. Just my usual prayer ritual but I noticed I'm getting better at articulation. I'm thinking of doing something a little more esoteric for All Hallows but don't know what yet. Open to suggestion. How did yours go lad? >>36156 Yes 40k used to do a tarot draw at the start of every thread but he's not around anymore. Are you a tarot user?
>>36153 Fine lad how was yours?
>>36162 Yes I do a tarot drawing almost everyday for myself. Very insightful
>>36153 Quite alright. I had to do mine last night. Had work today. I ended up not really changing anything in my rite. Decided to keep it consistent. Only addition was to use the SOP banishment some lad posted earlier, since it's something established. I'm now getting mixed feelings about the near future. The Aetheric ripples I've been perceiving seem to be mostly negative now. Not quite entirely sure what to make of things. It feels as though things could move in either direction right now. Not sure if any other lads have been perceiving such things. Felt a substantial negative Aetheric disturbance today, lasting most of the day. It doesn't seem to be personally related, though it may be geographically localized. Any other lads feel anything? I tend to perceive such things coming from the future though, so it may be no one else has perceived it, and may be as time passes that it is avoided, but I'll remain cautious myself.
>>36177 >77 get Fuck me. I know to meme responsibly and look what I go and do.
>>36167 Perhaps if you're still around for when we make a new thread you could draw a card for us? >>36177 (observed) >Any other lads feel anything? Can't say I did or have since. I shall try and be atuned though. I suspect there will be some happenings in the near future though given present circumstances. Keep us updated if you sense anything else lad.
>>36177 Where are you located lad? I'm in blighty and got strong positive vibes from my ritual
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Some sexy pics for you lads
>>36196 >Perhaps if you're still around for when we make a new thread you could draw a card for us? Absolutely!
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>>36205 laaaaaaaaaaaad......
>>36206 Thank you
Reminder to check this place out, lots of free ebooks, links and stuff https://hravan.com/
Haven't really lurked these threads so I don't know if its been discussed before. Does anyone here ever get foresights in their dreams? I get short bits of what will happen in my life occasionally, but never enough to see it coming before I am right in the moment. All the scenes have a blue tint to them as well. My mom gets foresights as well, hers being much more vivid and detailed so I think its inherited. Anyway if anyone has foresights have you found a better way of connecting with whatever the mind is tapping into and seeing more? Thanks in advance.
>>36267 I'd like to know this too. I have foresights in dreams but like you mine are always short and also they're always really mundane stuff. There must be a way to cultivate it.
>>36267 A little, like >>36270 it's often mundane stuff like drive safely or brush your teeth more been having more since I got more into self improvement.
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This is interesting. I wonder what happened to the Germanic priestly caste to make it disappear. My first thought was Christianity but thinking about it I don't recall anything recorded about the Germanic preist class during the Migration era or even after the first century C.E, unless I'm just ignorant of the sources. I don't recall anything about an Anglo-Saxon pagan priest class for instance. Perhaps the sheer militarism of those tribal societies had the effect of folding the priestly function into the King's role. Likewise every farmer was also a warrior if need be. Then later in more settled conditions the castes could separate out again with influence from the Celts. This could also be instructive on how a caste system could be revived. Note how it is the King who re-defines the classes of his realm, perhaps a divine King. Alfred was never called Great in his lifetime but he was certainly one of our greastest Kings.
>>36273 Tripartition is just the magic rule appllication to politique plan.
>>36280 As with native language skills, this assimilation has its own pace. The best, longest-lasting results have been produced when students spend no less than three days incorporating each card – each meme, or transmissible unit of consciousness – into their brains You need to learn certain core definitions, and need to establish them in right relationship to each other in your subconscious mind After this initial nine months, a further 78-week pass through the cards is advised (one week for each card). These primary and secondary passes, thus, take about 27 months, at the end of which your mind will be perceiving, thinking, and speaking in the hidden language of Tarot which has never been written… because it does not exist in the words of any spoken language
>>36281 Interesting choice, you are familiar with thlemism''s background?
>>36282 Very interesting thank you
>>36283 yes. 93
>>36285 I give you an operating technique: light a candle in a dark room and fix the flame for 3 minutes then extinguish the candle with your fingers, do not blow out! Once your eyes are closed, you will see Himinbjorg, concentrate on this Palace, observe it for a moment and then project it onto the Tarot deck. Repeat the operation a maximum of three times on the first evening, four times on the second evening and five times the following evening, then there are no more limits. Write down your ideas in your grimmoire. Heil Wotan 14/88 93
>>36287 I'm not to keen on all bumming tbh
>>36297 so stop talking about yourself.
>>36298 Walked into that one, why are you pushing degeneracy?
>>36304 This world is stable only by virtue of the Secret: at every moment, in the shadow of a Temple, an Initiate throws the weight of his power of enchantment into the cosmic balance. And this is what makes the world go round. Behold: Magic is the wheat, Religion is the flour, Culture is the art of the baker, Politics is the cake, Economics is the tasting. Most of the stupid people like you squabble over the cutting of the cake; a few criticize the pastry chef's dosages; others, rarer, point out that the pastry chef, no matter how talented, can do nothing if the flour is of poor quality. But the truth is that only the wheat production really matters
>>36273 >>...into subsequently unintelligible French. THIS LEL! >I wonder what happened to the Germanic priestly caste to make it disappear. Because they were hunted down. The viking age lasted two or three centuries at most and wasn't driven by an organized order. With enough time and bribery, it got assimilated into the Christian Europe. Centuries earlier (likely leading to this subsequent deterioration), Charlemagne saw to this in attacking the German pagans and what he started most certainly helped in the destruction of the priestly caste. I think there happened a form of early Protestantism where it became the ability of any citizen with more than two neurons to become a religious man for the important rites and events. In Rome they had something similar where the blood-rites were the duty of the head of families, even if more general rites and other metaphysical activities were managed by devoted priests. We do see a form of fusion in the Templars too. >Note how it is the King who re-defines the classes of his realm, perhaps a divine King. This is quite important, isn't it? Tell me what you think but what I observe is how strictly priestly castes are too feminine-minded, too passive and detached from the real world and this can easily lead to Eastern type doctrines of life-detachment or even renouncement. Celtic priests were influenced at some point by Greek doctrines which themselves were exposed to Eastern elements. It might be my own opinion here but methinks a complete separation is not the right thing to do. >>36283 Wasn't this current constructed by that anti-natsoc faggit? When you saw his face and the people who orbited him, you would realize that you would not him anywhere close to your family and would certainly not want him as a priest or king either. If this were true, there would not be anything more absurd, if not outright dangerous, than falling into a belief system developed by a man who opposed the true renaissance of Germanic/Nordic faith. Seriously lads, that's potentially highly fucked up. Be careful.
>>36318 Blavatsky spoke a few gems in her massive volumes of writing, but was ultimately a universalist and egalitarian. >>36294 >93 Explain the significance of this number pls. Obligatory Samhain videos lads. https://youtube.com/watch?v=H5Y1RqCbuJE https://youtube.com/watch?v=NUXd8eaXEL4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Hk_LIxnMk Fortress of Lugh’s videos may be repetitive. Fortress of Lugh’s videos may be repetitive.
>>36318 Blavatsky spoke a few gems in her massive volumes of writing, but was ultimately a universalist and egalitarian. >>36294 >93 Explain the significance of this number pls. Obligatory Samhain videos lads. https://youtube.com/watch?v=H5Y1RqCbuJE https://youtube.com/watch?v=NUXd8eaXEL4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Hk_LIxnMk Fortress of Lugh’s videos may be repetitive. Fortress of Lugh’s videos may be repetitive.
>>36333 >Blavatsky spoke a few gems in her massive volumes of writing, but was ultimately a universalist and egalitarian. Whatever your opinions might be of Guenon, his book on theosophism and Fatassky rightfully ripped them a new one. Today, these people are anti-racist biggots, basing this attitude on her books. It's shit through and thorough.
>>36327 >Tell me what you think but what I observe is how strictly priestly castes are too feminine-minded, too passive and detached from the real world and this can easily lead to Eastern type doctrines of life-detachment or even renouncement. >It might be my own opinion here but methinks a complete separation is not the right thing to do. Your post reminded me of an essay I read called "Spiritual Power and Temporal Authority" by Alain de Benoist so I went back and read it this morning. In it he examines the opinions of three thinkers on the caste system, Guenon, Evola and Coomaraswamy. Evola thought the same as you, that the priestly castes are too feminine but for different reasons. He believed the priest caste had it's origins in an ancient matriarchy which never really existed. After re-reading that essay I'm in agreement with you. I guess my gripe with the idea of a separate priest caste is that it can lead to Brahmanical society with the priests at the top exercising a stranglehold over everything. I don't really want to say this on Druid/pol/ but perhaps the Druids of early Celtic societies were a lot like a the Brahmans of India, a later degeneration and perhaps the reason we don't see a separate priestly caste in the Germanics is because it never existed in the same way. Having said that the essay still makes out that we can have a sacerdotal function exercising its spiritual authority within its correct domain within society but it must find unity in the person of the King. Perhaps the Anglicans and other Prot churches were closest to a solution by putting the monarch as head of the church and still having an arch-bishop and priesthood. Priests could be very useful to a pagan revival because they have uses, they just need to find their correct place and not think of themselves as a separate caste from that of the sovereign. This implies we need a sovereign in the first place. The King is elected from the Kshatriya class, where do we find one of those today? Hitler was born a Kshatriya in the Great war which makes me shudder to think what we're going to have to go through either nationally or as whites worldwide in order to raise another avatar of our people. As for family rites and such being led by the family head, yes these are good and I don't think there has ever been a contradiction between them and having a priest caste. Having a spiritual authority is about more than just officiating the sacraments and managing a temple but about "the preservation and transmission of the traditional doctrine, in which all regular social organization finds its fundamental principles" as Guenon says. tldr on the essay is the Guenon is wrong to place the priest class as supreme. Evola is wrong for the opposite reason, putting temporal power above everything. Coomaraswamy is closest with the idea of the marriage between the two principles, Spiritual and temporal power are an inseperable sovereign principle, Mitravaruna. It's a very good read if long. I read it in Tyr Magazine but I found you an online version. Worth a read when you have time. https://counter-currents.com/2012/11/spiritual-authority-and-temporal-power/
>>36333 (observed) Ta for the vids lad.
>>35848 >Odin's ravens being symbols of racial cuckoldry Holy fuck, first time in a long time I actually couldn't believe this wasn't a joke or a non-ironic post in a long time. First good laugh in a long time, thanks anon.
>>36380 The guy really has a following on twitter that's the worst part. He's not as big as Varg but still. I thought Varg was bad for the pagan revival but this guy is on another level. He's currently in a flame war with Keith Woods and the Nazbol gang which has been going on for a few months now. I can't stand the Nazbols either but I'm hoping they destroy his credibility. The dissident right is just a circus tbh.
Happy Samhain/Alfablot lads! Say a prayer for your ancestors tonight if you can.
>>36384 Best to simply tune out their nonsense, delete twitter and never, ever go back, not even to just ‘check in on things’. Same goes for any other social media. It’s a tired and obvious realization, but this stuff is simply no good. It’s not worth dragging your consciousness through the filth of twitter just to get updated on the newest hot takes and quips from characters such as Keith Woods or that bloody Brahmin twat. It’s all a nasty digitized warping of our inherent need for community and feeling ‘relevant’, but it’s simply garbage. Delete that shit, don’t give these rats the attention, or god forbid, the donations, they so desperately seek.
>>36385 Happy Samhain, lad. I have a large pyre that I will burn tonight. thank you, hurricanes.
I hope this post finds you well. Do remember tonight is very astrologically and spiritually significant and magical workings you undertake this day will be critical to further victories because our enemies (however impotent and degenerate they may be) will also be working to cast spells tonight. Do remember to counter those with spells of your own, and to protect Trump and his victory from curses by self-proclaimed witches.
>>36391 Good advice for the most part. I don't follow most of the mobements on twitter any more, mainly just follow a few aesthetic accounts that post European art and such and I use it to keep up with bitcoin stuff. Also follow a few small pagan accounts too which are good. I just stay away from politics. I'm thinking of staying away from the internet for a few days until the election is over. There's so much evil energy floating about right now. >>36393 Nice, sounds comfy. Not so here as everyone has decided to have bonfire night a week early so I have to listen to loads of fireworks going off. Not very spooky tbh. >>36395 >Do remember to counter those with spells of your own Do you know anything I could do tonight when it's a bit quieter? Something small and basic. I don't have any special equipment other than a couple of candles.
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Hope these are readable. Screenies I took of a thread a few weeks ago. Meant to post them then but forgot, but they're still relevant. Also an example of one of the small pagan accounts on twitter I follow.
>>36396 Meditation and prayers to your divinities would work. For empowerment, petitions, energy work, and so forth. Try something like sigil magic as well. Simple and basic things like that help. Do what you can to contribute, every bit counts, no matter how simple. This post >>36397 has good info in the images.
>>36400 (observed) Ta lad, I shall say some prayers for you yanks to my Gods and offer a libation before doing some meditation then.
>>36401 Thanks lad, blessings and good tidings to you.
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>>36196 >Keep us updated Did a bit of retrospection. Felt the same though to a lesser degree since. I think that it was the immediacy and pressure of it that made it seem negative. Definitively seemed to be a mix of things. Perhaps my empathic ability was muddying it as well. I would say it was more so an extremely strong sense of collective anxiety and anticipation. I would wager for the coming election and inevitable unrest. There was a pressure to it. Not quite sure how to put into words other than like a pressure quite like with a head cold. But I think the strongest factor muddying my perception was my own subconscious anticipation for the coming Dawn. It is oh so very near. Perhaps it would still measure out in a span of time in the decades, but the cosmic immediacy I think is quite undeniable. Though, to be fair, cosmically, everything is all at once. I still think it is very soon. >>36202 I was in the PNW. Moved back to Utah for various reasons. Was unfortunately unable to make a rite for Samhain. I have been facing my Self more in dreams. In a more recent one, I was shown three runes made out from silver-blue stars. The Rune Veneris, with three variations upon it. I saw first Veneris. I heard a voiceless voice say, "This is the Rune of Completion. It is the Sign of..." I can't quite recall the precise word used, but I suppose it to have been similar to Vimana. I do not think it was Immortal, it was another title. Then, I was shown the rune Ir transposed upon it, and heard "This is the rune of Separation. It is the rune of death, loss and entering into this world." Or something along those lines. I then saw the rune Man/Elhaz transposed upon it, and heard the voice again "This is the rune of the Hero rising. The Hero in Triumph. This rune, will be your rune, if you change your ways, and adhere to the Path." Or again, something like that. I realized upon the finishing of those words, the voice was mine, and I spoke to myself. The dream aside, I can feel it. More clearly now than before. The time is drawing near. The Avatar will soon arise. I am certain of this, though I do not know how I know except that I simply do. In my heart I know He is here. I can feel Him. Can you lads? Can you feel His presence? So very soon, I suspect the Avatar will awaken. I will continue to watch the stars and the current, and hear my heart until my death for His coming. Whichever comes first. It may well be I'm perceiving my Self and not the avatar though, as I have been drawing closer to my Self lately. Oh so fickle these things, and an art, not a science. Perhaps I have fooled myself into too great of hope. I know I post this a lot, but in the moments I feel it, and feel it clearly, it is quite strong. I'll keep you lads updated on the matter, though I know my posting of it may grow old. I don't want it to be a matter of the boy who cried wolf though; to forewarn too many times. My wonderlust grows even more. I can hardly bear it at times. I so greatly desire to just leave it all behind and travel. Something somewhere seems to be calling me, but what, and where? The grand and hope filled nature of this song always gets me going. Not entirely unrelated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t5IXESdVcQ
Happy Samhain, lads
>>36384 Yeah, I genuinely think its just the sign of the times. Major shit is going down (And no, despite some on this Board and their fascination with Protecting Trump, an evident follower of the current "order", a false idol, who probably is protected already against said Hexes by Whor- sorry I mean "Witches".) But, the "Right". Ho, the "Right" will do what it always has done: play with their little delusions and leaders all pretending to be the next Avatar. I personally tune out of most of that garbage, but that take was just too hot for me to not ignore it- its within Lolcow territory. If he's flaming with Nazbols / Strasserists, well. You can tell what kind of person someone is via their actions, after-all. Well, Wotan's Wild Ride as it is, I suspect we've not seen the last of such retardation.
>>36404 I'm not familiar with Serrano's runeology but I agree with your intuitions. Your dream is clearly about a hero man coming from the heavens, the avatar. Or it could be some kind of self realisation like you say. Or both. An avatar would awaken our people's true spirit because he's a part of us already. Easy to imagine some people already tapped into that part of themselves. Personally I think we might be still quite away from such a happening but who knows at this point? I wish I could feel the same you do but I do pray for it. >My wonderlust grows even more. I can hardly bear it at times. I so greatly desire to just leave it all behind and travel. Something somewhere seems to be calling me, but what, and where? Iktf. There must be more than this prison hell of a planet. A true home somewhere out there. >>36405 And to you lad.
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Should we have a new thread before or after the election? Think we're about to hit bump limit on this one.
>>36395 >and to protect Trump He’s a Freemason who practices Kabbalah. He neither needs nor deserves protection from us lad. >>36405 Well done lad, I had one about half that size myself. >>36404 >My wonderlust grows even more Make sure to secure your passport before leaving your family lad. It would be difficult afterwards. >>36401 > I shall say some prayers for you yanks Thanks lad, it’s going to be a crazy week regardless of who wins the election.
>>36432 Those pics are kind of grasping at straws, I don't see how having a few pillars and a painting in one of his properties makes him a Freemason or how Guy Oseary (an actual Jew) having a Kabbalah teacher has anything to do with Trump (the book is collection of a hundred rich people talking about the business advice they've gotten, not Trump). I don't think it's impossible that he's done magic before, and I certainly don't think Trump is perfect, but with how much the establishment clearly hates him I'd say he's currently the best bet for us yanks; most people aren't open to more extreme ideas so someone like Trump is a good first step. Certainly better than Biden (and yes, I know the attitude here is "politics is all a show" but even if it is that won't stop me from trying something). But you're free to believe what you want.
>>36448 Trump uses the New Thought practices as taught by Manly P. Hall, and has done so for his whole career. I'd say it's worked out pretty well for him.
>>36448 >Guy Oseary (an actual Jew) having a Kabbalah teacher has anything to do with Trump >Co-partner Maverick Records >grasping at straws There’s a lot of straws lad, enough to make a giant faggot.
>>36451 Those are more substantial at least, although I can barely read through the last one since it's so small and disorganized. I see they call him "the original /pol/lack", is /pol/ now bad because the image said a Jew was one first?
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>>36452 >I see they call him "the original /pol/lack", is /pol/ now bad because the image said a Jew was one first? I think that's a joke because when this infodump was made there were a lot of 4chan "/pol/ meetup" pics and footage from Shia LeBouf's HWNDU livestreams circulating around where half the members of 4/pol/ were suburban jews and urbanite asians. It's the old "nobody on pol is white" joke which was helpful breaking down my liberal brainwashing in 2016, but in 2017 I moved on to 8pol and realized all those "ironic Nazis" were genuine National Socialists, in ethics if not in name, and the rest was history. inb4 lmao newfag I agree with the poster that Trump is nothing but a yes man for overseas Jewish capital rather than domestic Jewish interests. I still think people should vote for him since he drives the liberal establishment insane, which has the effect of FINALLY getting it through the thick skulls of normalfags that, (gasp!) "The media tells lies!" It amazes me that people don't get such an elementary idea, when I was in Grade 4 (homeschooling) my parents told me how the Iraq war was a thinly disguised excuse to wage war for oil. That the media spun agendas for rich players behind the scenes has been obvious to anybody with half a brain, but most normalfags are still comically naive. Anything that makes the agenda (or merely the fact that there is an agenda, not a messy pile of bad things that happen due to abstractions like "crime" or "corruption") of the current world order blatantly obvious is a win in my book.
Biden winning means white nationalism will be declared as terrorism, white genocide will be speeded up 1000 times while our voices will be shut down from everywhere. We need those extra 4 years. To know all Biden and company will do go to Minute 2:46:00 https://youtu.be/lm8XjJjFPSA
>>36473 >Biden winning means white nationalism will be declared as terrorism, white genocide will be speeded up 1000 times while our voices will be shut down from everywhere. We need those extra 4 years. 4 more years of slow boil. Humans react emotionally so we need strong emotions on our side. When they'll see that despite being the target of libel, rape, plunder and murder, they keep being designated as ebil raysists, then rage will be kindled. Hatred will grow. So fuck Trump, vote Biden and welcome chaos once and for all.
>>36397 >From 4th age straight to the 1st This is wholly incorrect. Now, the reason why the struggle seems to be cataclysmic is because things are extremely condensed today and happen very fast, massively heightened. But it's all a huge metaphysical-fueled roller coaster.
>>36405 Pic so big that I realized it loads from the right, leftwards. >>36429 >There must be more than this prison hell of a planet. Planet's fine, we suck right now. Unless you hate anything physical, then...
>>36448 Leftists have a lot of power, but they're just the left hand of the ZOG. Trump is made a scarecrow but he protects Israel first and foremost, although I heard that politically wise, the hardcore right in Israel was experiencing troubles. >>36449 Not so sure, he almost entirely screwed his paternal business and I don' think he'd be anywhere without tons of financial advisers around him. >>36451 >There’s a lot of straws lad, enough to make a giant faggot. Multilayered Kek. >>36462 >when I was in Grade 4 (homeschooling) my parents told me how the Iraq war was a thinly disguised excuse to wage war for oil I remember that the counter argument back then was "but their oil is shit so no". Mind you, that's not high enough of a reasoning. The real reason (with oil as a bonus) is for Israel to cut a slice through this area for its Greater plan. Eretz Israel is something that still baffles me today, I'm not even sure the zionistest shabbo goyim think it's realistic at all.
>>36486 >So fuck Trump, vote Biden and welcome chaos once and for all. This is where I’m at. Trump was a pressure release, re-election will keep our people docile. A Biden win will radicalize more cuckservatives. >>36487 >metaphysical-fueled roller coaster. This. Fresh Asha Logos https://youtube.com/watch?v=XujB_NhKTy4 Chaffed to say I contributed with a modicum of the research lads.
>>36473 Saw you in the other thread, White Nationalism is fucking DEAD at this point. The remains of the so-called WN's are proud boys (AKA retards) and fucking Nick Fuentes orbiters. Any new "revival" of the same old Rockwell stratagem is doomed to failure, as it has been since his death, and it will continue to be, "Just another 4 years of organization" later.
>>36491 Well, vote if you think its gonna change much- but I would like to give you a bit of advice lad. Don't expect "reinforcements", or ally yourself. In this day and age, decades of social isolationism from a failing social system (peaked in the 60's) means men are Islands- more then ever. But, I would ESPECIALLY recommend you not to hold your breath on Cuckservatives. They're the Metaphysical manifestation of Inter-Racial Cuckoldry, and their wife isn't the Sub, THEY ARE. Holding hope for others will just leave you disappointed. Live by your standards, and to the fullest.
>>36486 No this is idiotic. You don't give your enemy the upper hand to win a fight. People now are more awake then they were in 2016 se gained fround in the minds of people. The culture control has been waining so hard they created a pandemic to halt trump. Even if he doesn't fight israel now, his election opens a path for someone to do it later. If biden wins and you voted for him you only handicapped yourself more
>>36486 >So fuck Trump, vote Biden and welcome chaos once and for all. Did the Rhodesians "wake up" when they were in a full scale war with the surrounding niggers? Are the nigger killings of the Boer going on right now waking up the liberal urbanites in Johannesburg? You're making the same mistake the Marxists made - you're trying to tear down the system so you can build a better system afterwards. That's not how nature works, you should know that since you're in a druidlad thread. Whether your alternative merely "outcompetes" its rivals or it goes for the jugular and directly kills them, you need an alternative first. You need the Brown bear before their numbers and better adapted digging claws can push the proto-polar bears our of their territory and into the north. You need to plant the trees first before they start cutting off sunlight to the weedy shrubs on the forest floor. Neither candidate stops the degeneration of our racial stock, but at least one will get in our way less as many minds slowly converge on the alien and unspeakable idea of a new nation where 'Murrica once stood. One allows us to plant trees while he loots the forest of berries, the other will impose endless regulations and unnavigable bureaucracies around the concepts of tree planting. Form your Trouble Trios, build a parallel economy and parallel infrastructure, form communities within the small cities surrounding large cities, then move on to the rural areas. Plant your trees druidlads, and may our forest someday eclipse the jewish weeds that strangle all life from taking root.
>>36501 >Did the Rhodesians "wake up" when they were in a full scale war with the surrounding niggers? Detailed context please, I am not sure your comparison applies at all here. >Are the nigger killings of the Boer going on right now waking up the liberal urbanites in Johannesburg? Probably not. Let them die then. If being exterminated because of their race does not wake them up then they were already dead. South Africa has been the victim of a slow boil process and massive Jewish and Communist pressure, and back then Whites were not like we are today and they were isolated. The situation is totally different. There are many Whites who will perish, either because they'll get ambushed by the enemy or simply because they will not wake up, even when niggers will be knocking on their front door, raping their daughters and killing them in the basement with shotguns shells and bottles of acid. But don't even pretend that Whites in the US who voted for Trump were not interested in the wall against migrants. We have far more Whites who are racially aware today and we still are very numerous, whereas the Whites in South Africa are few and subdued, stuck on the southern tip of a continent full of niggers. >You're making the same mistake the Marxists made - you're trying to tear down the system so you can build a better system afterwards Marxists made a mistake because they were not fighting for their blood, they were fighting for unnatural principles and in fact nobody followed until kikes decided to accelerate and pay revolutionaries to grab power by force at the end of a provoked chaos such as world war one. I'm pushing for the rot to spread faster so the fall will happen sooner and then it will be easier to tear this thing down. >Neither candidate stops the degeneration of our racial stock Biden would logically make it become far more obvious and insufferable. But if there are retards who are going to wait four years until the next elections so they can again vote, these ballot bozos, then let them eat each single ounce of their sour surprise. They're stupid. Elections have a result that is a close tie and will keep getting worse for us. The west and east coasts are now lost. The good news is by looking at the map, we see that the central states where tons of healthy resources are found are still more right-winged. This divide is fantastic, we need more of it. Pressure will come from the sides. >One allows us to plant trees while he loots the forest of berries, the other will impose endless regulations and unnavigable bureaucracies around the concepts of tree planting. Perfect. We need to suffer, to be driven mad and become insanely hateful. This will force Whites to become much more active at the county and state level if they want to push back the Federal pressure. Fuck bushes and berries, I want fields of blades and blood. I want rage, Whites seething at the injustice and having no hope in the country and its government. More injustice, more pressure, will make these people far more receptive to our arguments. Natural born leaders will manifest in these fertile grounds. We will still have forms of communication for years to come, we will still have ways to improve on our propaganda, but most of it is already rock solid and with leftists being given free reign, we will have an infinite supply of examples to show fellow Whites the madness that comes our way if we don't fight back. It's about time we get served with a shocking dose of grim darkness and get ready for war. These lands will not clean themselves.
Got home from nightshift, let my dog out, and saw this magnificent creature
>>36493 So I should just sit home and do fuck all on my ass? Do you have anything of value to share?
>>36534 How did you come to the conclusion that sitting on your ass is the suggestion? Simply don’t place faith or energy into the horrible things he mentioned, ie, Trump, mainstream political processes, Nick Fuentes, etc. Steering you clear from obvious degeneracy and failure does not equate to suggesting that you, ‘do nothing and sit on your ass’.
>>36534 No, I think you should THINK first. Action is good if the action can actually be formulated towards MORE action. Have the WN's "formulated" themselves towards more action? No, they went to Charlottesville, blew their wad in one night and died off practically the next day. Use the brain-cells you have still remaining and become IMAGINATIVE. So instead of a backhanded "witty" retort of "haha lazy fuck doesn't want to become a braindead follower of some fucking zogbot leader, that must mean you want to sit around all day!" develop some critical thinking skills of your own instead of expecting them to come from someone else. Next up is probably internally working on yourself, usually termed "Iron Pill", and usually half-assed by many people. You build a foundation. It has to be done, however, CORRECTLY. This means adhering to whatever behavioral patterns, a facade so to speak, you are known for. No, I'm not telling you to remain a fat-ass, or drink yourself into a stupor- If those things are your "Vices" or System Control points. Everyone is, however, digging a hole, if its video games, porn, politics, whatever- a great "redpill" is that the human mind is consistently building addiction pathways, after-all it feels good to do "x", so you should do more "x", which devalues "x", requiring more of "x" to feel good, cycle repeats, Addiction. And no- I'm not saying cold turkey. It doesn't work 50%~ of the time for pregnant women, and the maternal instinct is one of the most powerful motivators in existence. Also, take note of your parents (If you are still "young" enough to have such availability) control points. Most of the time your "vices" are things created by viewing your parents or some sort of "thing" or "trauma" you experienced as a child. If you can even develop the maturity to note your own failures, good. Now figure out a way to not procrastinate about it, or ignore them. Make those failures so loud they scream at you and shake you from your slumber. I'm only gonna tell you the first step, cause if you cannot IMAGINE past that, you aren't ready for ANY of it. Also, it is a path not for the weak-hearted or feeble-minded. If your over-socialized, expect such things to fail again and again- because it only works for people who aren't over-socialized. If you note Sociopathic Behavior patterns- remember its a double edged sword. You are going to be very, very good at noting your vices so long as you fan the right stuff- but you are also going to be attached to them more then ever- even if you are above 15 percentile for IQ (Being a reference for IMPULSE control.) That's correct- not one persons path can be innately followed by someone else exactly- we men are Islands, now more then ever.
>>36370 >Evola thought the same as you, that the priestly castes are too feminine but for different reasons. He believed the priest caste had it's origins in an ancient matriarchy which never really existed. I believe it's above all due to the core principle these priests defend. Simply put, if in one way or another you are anti-Nature, anti-world, and seek to leave it because it's false, it's an illusion, it's gross and or a prison, then logically the emphasis on physical prowess will be close to none. It's a convenient way of thinking to just remain sitting in a cloister and do fuck all in reality, all wrapped in distorted metaphysics. At their core, the thoughts of these priestly classes are exclusively anti-action, despite all their claims to the contrary. This said, regarding Evola one can notice that he's not short of odd theories that result in most curious doctrines too. He also had this weird approach of his regarding biological race because of the theory of devolution, literally that because of lower racial spirits, our bodies become less than what they were. It reflect popular ideas that circulated back then, notably through the championing of Theosophism, which was a massive fraud and for which its most outlandish claims were never sourced nor proven. The theory of the great races and their respective ages is a clear speculation built from the basis of the Golden Age narrative, of which at best we only have the oldest extant texts from old Egyptian literature that shows their civilization starting with gods ruling people, then demi-gods, then plain humans as kings. This led Evola to argue that there could literally be a pure race of the theoretically biological Aryan kind (and a very fragile one at that) but entirely devoid of an Aryan soul. I simply disagree with this claim and assert that the higher soul is just subdued, remaining dormant, but as long as the blood survives, the soul of a higher kind will always manage to find its way into it too. >perhaps the Druids of early Celtic societies were a lot like a the Brahmans of India, a later degeneration There is something like that, if for the simple fact that they were wiped out. We now know they won against the ovates, who practiced a much less populace-oriented creed, by introducing a mainstream version of metempsychosis taken as supposed from the Pythagoreans, whom Evola saw as feminine and already degenerative. I am not necessarily in agreement with Evola here, I could not honestly settle for one or the other and I know he attacked other groups and people, or even ideas, which I do not find reproachable at all. He was an oddball in trying to stretch between a strong Guenonian influence and a more practical Roman-Heroic approach regarding karma. Nevertheless, being warrior monks doesn't magically make you immune to conspiracies, as we saw with the Order of the Templar Knights. >the reason we don't see a separate priestly caste in the Germanics is because it never existed in the same way Germanics were much more pragmatic about it but it's also possible they lost something important in the form of isolated esoteric orders. You cannot democratize true metaphysics, you can only provide a reduced form for the people at large, from which sprout would-be priests. And as we see in the United States, it opens the door to a wide range of ridiculous religious groups where anyone can decide being a representative of God.
>>36370 >it must find unity in the person of the King Most certainly, starting with the fact that a non-spiritually founded king would just be another soldier or politician in pompous garbs. This true King must be complete and must have had it tough at times too. He has to combine all three main castes of the Aryan society. >Perhaps the Anglicans and other Prot churches were closest to a solution by putting the monarch as head of the church and still having an arch-bishop and priesthood. In that, they were and this system was very strict. They gave temporal powers to the head of the order, which the Catholic Church didn't, despite all the political shenanigans going on between popes and lords. Protestants lost this clarity in sight when they turned liberal and when monarchs vanished. I think the better model here would be one where a clear and strict structure is provided and openly defined, but which allows a degree of variance in the teachings and practices outside of it; i.e., a form of religious tolerance, assuming it is not too degenerate. I know this opens the door to accusations of heresy if it allows any church to be able to condemn and close other religious faiths, so this should not be the real solution. What would be, IMHO, that greater solution, would be a way in which the main order influences the culture to such a point that any splinter or alternative church would not even consider radically alternative doctrines. >Priests could be very useful to a pagan revival because they have uses, they just need to find their correct place and not think of themselves as a separate caste from that of the sovereign. Most verily and it begs to be said that priests would be perfect messengers of the word as long as it reflected that of the order. There would likely be different types, but the archetypal one should have an experience of sorts in the art of war and also be head of a family. Certainly, what kind of priest could pretend having a life-transcending authority over other men if he, himself, didn't know how to fight and never contributed to the society, failing having had at least a wife. Maybe I'm just fantasizing here but perhaps all priests would be required to do some kind of regular checking on their fighting skills or something? >The King is elected from the Kshatriya class, where do we find one of those today? I get the feeling that many of us will soon discover themselves a secret kshatriya class. >Hitler was born a Kshatriya in the Great war which makes me shudder to think what we're going to have to go through either nationally or as whites worldwide in order to raise another avatar of our people. Fun? Maybe? I'm already preparing myself eviscerating our enemies since by now for 1/2 of any week I'm literally projecting myself precisely doing that with glee. We might literally switch into mild psychos but who gives? Pray that if you die, some white bloke will use his dick properly and shove it where it needs to go (with globohomo growing, tis not a given!) and get a baby factory output another white kiddo so another form of You will grow there and perhaps, if shit does not happen, you'll get a chance to fight again around the age of 14 or 16. Until we grow clones in vats lel. >as Guenon says. I'd loathe to follow Guenon's path though, it's a dead end and the sure collapse of our people. >Evola is wrong for the opposite reason, putting temporal power above everything. Actually iirc it was more of a mix really but I admit this is not very clear from his writings and his complicated organizational chart that he laid down around Revolt and after that does not really help much. >Mitravaruna Good, will look into that.
I admit this sounds a bit like God Emperor stuff but if you could ditch the cartoonic layer for a moment... I am now totally in love with the idea of an empire. I'm already picturing things in my head, ranks, attire, rites, weapons, teachings, faith, you name it! Not limited to these topics, my thoughts cover social, economical and ecological projects, research in science and metaphysics, archeology and mysteries, eugenics and vorticism, etc.
>>36531 Great one lad. This big fella swooped and perched in the light of Jupiter when we came home from grocery shopping tonight. >>36497 >Well, vote if you think its gonna change much- I didn’t lad don’t worry. >>36497 >Holding hope for others will just leave you disappointed. Live by your standards, and to the fullest. Yes. >>36692 >we men are Islands, now more then ever. This Lodge is a mighty archipelago your preaching to lad.
>>36705 Glorious, lad. I just missed getting a picture of a formation of white pelicans earlier. Those are a tad rare around here. Speaking of being islands, I am an absolute island right now. Do not forget your discipline, lads. Read, Exercise, and strive to improve daily. This too shall pass.
Hope you're all getting ready for friday lads
Ha ha Captain Picard is time traveling again. Hope BO can fire some red and blue torpedoes in time.
>>36957 Ready lad.
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>>37011 https://b-ok.cc/book/860691/2a30a6 The Cube of Space: Container of Creation there have been many books written of the Tree of Life, yet none on the Cube of Space. For the first time a major work has come forth that takes the reader from an introduction of The Cube of Space to a detailed explanation of its parts and relationship to the Tree of Life. The author demonstrates how the Cube of Space is generated through sacred geometry, the Sphere of Binah and the Magic Square of Saturn. Some of the information in this book may create waves in the traditional teachings of the Tree of Life. Undoubtedly, The Cube of Space is an original and bold new work concerning the most neglected areas of study in the Qabalah, and perhaps the most important. https://b-ok.cc/book/880208/c66640 Meditations on the Cube of Space This is an excellent book that describes a subject that few have paid attention to. There are few works that even bother to describe the Cube of Space, let alone actually give information and exercises designed to utilize it for spiritual growth. The Cube of Space is an alternative view of the universe for those walking the path of the Western Mysteries. I like it because, unlike the Paths on the Tree of Life, there is little of the kind of "hierarchy" implied by the positions of the associated Tarot cards. Have Fun and a great study !
>>37012 All traditional societies are politically organized around three major powers: -the King's power (sun) -the warrior's one (Mars) -that of the sorcerer (Pluto) The sun represents visible, political and unifying power. The warrior represents the tangible, concrete power governing associations/confrontations. The sorcerer represents the invisible, inner and subtle power of the Priest-Magician depositary of the secrets of the universe.
Can you shine some light on the nature of the gods ?
>>37017 Our gods are our masters, our guides and our models - I give you the secret of optimal Aryan ethics: you have to be Wotan for yourself, Thor for others and Frey for the materiales assets of this world. An insatiable man in his quest for knowledge - an ideal of strength, righteousness and nobility in the eyes of his fellows - who leads the existence of a friend of pleasure, wise and benevolent. Be a secret Magician (Wotan), a famous hero (Thor) and a great lord in your art of living (Frey). The Hermit in thought, The Mad in words, the Hierophant in action. We call "gods" the mysterious entities from which emanates the vibrational energy from which proceed the forms whose materialization produces the phenomena. Axiom: everything in the universe proceeds from a vibratory ENERGY which creates a FORM expressing, in the form of a symbol, the deep nature of THAT from which it (the energy) proceeds: this form finally crystallizes into a PHYSICAL BODY. Now, all vibratory energy can only proceed from a LIVING BEING - the mysterious living being, the "THIS" from which every phenomenon proceeds, is what we call "a god". We postulate, by virtue of the law of analogy, that the god of the sun (for example), is the god whose deep nature is expressed by the sun, is also the god of EVERYTHING analogous to the sun: spiritual light, purity, beauty, harmony, joy, abundance, etc. - therefore, by coming into contact with him, we will be able to benefit from the spiritual and material benefits that are proper to him - We therefore NAME this god (by a magic formula expressing cabalistically his deep nature - the Divine Name : BALDR in the case of the god of the sun) and, via the archetypes (symbols in analogical resonance with his being, image showing, no longer a "crystallization of his deep nature", like the solar star, but a representation of his PERSON: the one from which the initial vibratory energy proceeds), we strive to establish harmonious and fruitful contacts with him. Once these relationships have been established, the gods themselves teach us the secrets of nature - the wise men record the secrets entrusted to them by the gods, - in the form of narratives that teach the layman the natural law and the ethics that flow from it, while awakening the imagination, wonder and magical thinking of children, - so that we can TRANSMIT these teachings - these narratives are what we call MYTHS. The little deity rector of the flower grove in the nearby park, though quite venerable in her own domain, is obviously subordinate to Frigg, deity rector of the sky, i.e. of destiny, or to Wotan, deity rector of primordial energy, i.e. of Magic. The gods are thus, in short, "entities living on a higher plane than ours " - Magic (reminder: "religion" is only the envelope of Magic: religion is to Magic what numbers are to numbers) is the art of coming into contact with them, "Mysticism" (ie spiritual discipline) the art of "raising our being to their level". The chief of our gods is the great Wotan. He is not a kind god. Whether men live or die, he doesn't care. He is cruel and loveless, but at birth he breathes "fury" into the soul of every man: the "fury" that confers the ability to fight and kill - the "fury" that confers the ability to unite with a woman, to enjoy and to procreate - the "fury" that confers their creative fever on artists, poets, writers, musicians - and the "fury" that makes people apprehend the suprasensible reality and burn to rise on the degrees of the Magical Initiation. .. What else could men ask of the gods? In reality, we neither love nor fear our gods - we RESPECT them.
>>37018 Can Men become Gods? I am getting your perspective because the anons at /fascist/ are having many discussions about the nature of white gods in non white pantheons.
>>37017 >>37019 Yes men come from the gods, Wotan and his two brothers created mankind from tree trunks but only the white people have a divine soul since they descend from the son of Wotan: Heimdall "the white god" cf the Rígsþula.
>>33527 Does anyone has a good pdf of Dhammapada was reading from the reading list and just finished "Categorizing the Occult" (im completely new to this )
>>37026 http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=The+Dhammapada&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def The Dhammapada: Buddhist philosophy Author(s): Buddha; Irving Babbitt (trans.) Publisher: New Directions, Year: 1965 ISBN: 0811200043,9780811200042
>>37029 >>37028 >>37027 thanks anon
>>36705 >This Lodge is a mighty archipelago your preaching to lad. True enough I suppose, lad.
Hey frens, short time lurker here. Have been thinking about converting to paganism for quite a while now, got a few friends that are pagans so they explained quite a lot to me. Recently tho one of those freinds told me that druids were outcasts because they were "doing a woman's job" (eg. magic and healing) and that the "real" men were berserkers/warriors, and wanted to know what you guys are thinking about his statement. I personally find all of the information you guys have been posting extremely interesting, so thanks to every Druid here helping newbies like me out. Don't want to make this post too long, but i only really know of the two eddas and oera linda, any more "required" books to get started with paganism in general? Thank you in advance
>>37222 (observed) It's incorrect. The Druids were the religious leaders, lorekeepers, the establishment, back in the day. Your friend was conflating the religious leadership of the ancient Celtic peoples with the Germanic practice of Seidr, a form of shamanism - which was considered a feminine or unmanly practice because the practitioner is in a receptive role: they were possessed, mind and body, by the spirits and the Gods. Fortunately, shamanism is not really a path that you can choose. The Gods choose you for that, if you are unfortunate enough to have that in your destiny. It happens only when the other side of the veil comes to rearrange your insides. As for books, I'd suggest instead you should get out into nature and listen inwardly to what your blood has to say on the matter. Also, remember to disregard anything whatsoever written on the subject by a jew.
>>37226 since i am from a germanic country that's probably where my friend was misguided. Thank you for the advice, I'm pretty happy this "community" is so much purer and genuine than on other chans,
Hope you're all well my friends
>>36205 >Ruined my No Nut November! Lol
>>37422 Major New Moon Eclipse and Conjunction next week boys. The Eclipse on Dec 14 will also be a stellarium. https://astrologyking.com/solar-eclipse-december-2020-new-moon/ On Dec 21, Winter Solstice, will also be a Jupiter/Saturn conjunction when they meet at 0 degrees in Aquarius. We are moving into an Air sign which deals with the mind, communication and intelligence. Here's a nice breakdown on the history of what happened during former 'transitions' such as this. https://astrobutterfly.com/2020/10/09/age-of-aquarius-the-next-chapter/ We MUST take advantage of this in our usual manner. Let us begin to prepare for a mighty Ritual on the 21st, but also use the 14th eclipse for our purposes as well.
Been gone a couple of months, I think. How have you lads held up? Any of you lads know the bump limit here? May be time for a new thread. Nothing to report that I can really remember at all. >37423 These astrological events certainly are an excellent finale to the year.
>>37682 Around 500ish. It was raised after last spammed attack bumplocked a few threads. Don't believe there is a hard lock, one thread was over 1300 before jannies cleaned it up
>>37423 > a mighty Ritual on the 21st A Swedish alchemist fren of mine has devised a good ritual I’ll copypasta here when he finalizes it. It involves bathing nude in a natural body of water after sundown and drying off by a fire. Essentially a death, cleansing, and rebirth as Aryan twice born in a Hyperborean icy baptism. He gives a good rundown on the implications of the alignment and the alchemical symbolism. >>37686 >before jannies cleaned it up Hail the based af jannies and BO here tbh. >>37682 Welcome back lad. >>36022 (observed) Sorry lad, I completely forgot to post PDFs for you. Do forgive a busy lad. >3 books on the Druids https://mega.nz/folder/uSpnUKLL#pHKGZYTwANw9hx3umjj9_w > Two by Evola https://mega.nz/folder/OeZDXQrY#lH7plSZETbhAj5haGXeK4w >Summoning the Gods https://mega.nz/file/iaoRlY6L#fedJ3JT74RAhhvnaUpUW45BoovKfPQlCH1c8M5CV3Yo
>>37423 Here's two good articles about the age of Aquarius and the upcoming Jupiter/Saturn conjunction. Just ignore the normie take on muh fascism https://classicalastrologer.me/2014/05/10/thema-mundi-the-aquarian-age/ https://classicalastrologer.me/2019/12/03/15741/ Tldr; >Aquarius is in the house of death on the Axis of Hades according to the Thema Mundi >The age of Aquarius (which we're probably already in) is a great time of utopian delusion, the Kali Yuga >Saturn the great malefic conjuncts Jupiter every 20 yrs portenting of a new cycle, a mini epoch within each age >This time the conjunction happens in Aquarius So big things are probably about to occur but I can't tell if they're going to be good or bad for us. Maybe as Saturn devours his own children so too will the utopian freaks destroy themselves. However we are in the Kali Yuga where everything is turned on its head so perhaps we ourselves are in for some serious shit. It's all extremely creepy to me how this all aligns with this moment of limbo we're in surrounding the American "election". >We MUST take advantage of this in our usual manner. Let us begin to prepare for a mighty Ritual on the 21st, but also use the 14th eclipse for our purposes as well. Thoughts on what to do? We have the 20th and last rite a day before too. I didn't do anything for the eclipse but it will supercharge the conjunction regardless. >>37682 Is that you 40k? >How have you lads held up? Meh, not so good. I've been coming here less and less as have most I think. I was thinking of moving on after the end of this years rites. Idk yet.
>>37720 >Is that you 40K No, 'twas Beastlad. I lost track of how long I was gone. Not sure if it was actually a couple of months. >Meh, not so good. The choice is ultimately yours lad, but I'll try to keep the spirit of the lodge alive, myself. At least, for the foreseeable future. The Druidic spirits wouldn't have nurtured the lodge for it to die like this, I think.
>>37720 >>37740 I used to lurk on 8ch before the takedown, and the BOND/Druid/Brotherhood threads have been by far the most interesting to read, the posters/participants in the thread always on-topic and well-spoken. You will be missed if these threads to die. Honestly, the B.O.N.D. is one of the very few reasons I visit this site. I hope it goes on. You all ALL very much appreciated and loved for what you do. Be Blessed Brothers.
>>37741 Seconded t. lurker
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>>37720 Thank you brother. >Thoughts on what to do Stay local and stay focused. Use this time and energy to take action in your area and with your Mannerbund. What you begin (with a sincere heart) at this time will resonate throughout the coming years in your life. It's a tremendous opportunity to make/create/begin something that will help you, your family and Folk. A great First step for many of us is to Reclaim Your Manhood. https://twitter.com/PathToManliness/status/1338892630625832960 Begin chipping away at those vices: Xbox, alcohol, porn, junk food - and replace them with healthy positive choices for the New Year. Personally I started doing a daily planner which includes daily meditation. One week free of alcohol and daily 15 minute standing meditations has worked wonders on my outlook.
>>37708 Thank you - many blessings be upon You.
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>>37708 While I'm thinking of it: In regards to classic Alchemy - the key to whole thing is that the recipes are symbols. The "bellows" are your lungs The QuickSilver (or mercury) is Semen The Caldron is your stomach (elixir field at the navel). The Vessel is your body. The process is that through diet, breathing and meditation you can "turn base matter" (ie food) into "gold" (vital energy - aka Chi). Through the exercises you can then move the Chi around your body (assuming you can accumulate a sufficient quantity, which Yes you can). Alchemists were blessed with long life because they retained their energy; didn't waste it through drink, sex and debauchery. There is no philosopher's stone in real life - it is a symbol of longevity that anyone can use to their benefit. Why was it hidden for so many centuries? Because it is the Universal manner in which all great Spiritual Men have garnered release from the Physical Plane. It is pure power. It's also why celibacy was required by the early church. Even Jesus said it was more important to be celibate than to be married. Blessings to You all......
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>>37708 >>36705 If I can get a Castle through airbnb for March 20, 2021 in the Scottish Highlands, who's available for a DRUID convocation? Show of hands please.
>>37740 Good to see you again Beastlad. Probably was a couple of months tbh. Just noticed this thread has been going for like 6 months too kek. >>37740 >>37741 >>37742 I guess I'll carry on posting here then, we've come this far right lads? I always forget how many lurkers with have here too. >>37753 Well I was actually asking about whether we should do any special kind of ritual on the 21st but this is good advice, thank you. Not to moan too much but I've sunk into catatonic despondency since the end of summer. This shitter of a year is finally starting to take its toll on me mentally. I feel like I need to escape this hellscape of a country and its claustrophobic cultish conformity and social isolation but I don't even want to go outside any more. >>37756 I don't have a job any more so I guess I'm free but I don't have any money either. I pretty much went all in on Bitcoin and a few other alts. Do you think there's enough bong druids for a castle? I can't see Yanks lads coming because of expense and also uncertainty over corona restrictions and such. Are you a Brit?
>>37755 Very good comments - thanks I give you a traditional exercise to accumulate exercise quickly and in high quantities that we call in some old French circles: 1, 2, 3, soleil (sun). We stare at the sun for less than 2 seconds without moving our eyes, then we sit down, lie down and put an opaque blindfold over our eyes, then while maintaining a slow and calm breath we observe ... It's a photosynthesis technique, the sunlight is transformed into energy (Chi or Ond, whether you are Chinese or Aryan)*. repeat the operation and meditate ... ps: gently for the first few days, otherwise headaches may occur. *the circuit is a bit more complicated than that
Anyone watch any Milleniyule yet? What's been good?
>>37871 Live now
>>37873 The Great order one seemed kinda boring so I watched the Franklin one instead which was pretty meh anyway. The Franklin is a good channel though, I watched him ever since he appeared on the very first Milleniyule as Reactionary Expat.
Also just tried watching the Dankula one but I turned it off once they started getting to the questions. He's become such a pussy afraid to offend anyone. He even apologized after Dankula said some antifa dude looked too skinny to throw a punch before going on to censor even tongue in cheek audience questions. Only questions about pistachio nuts are safe on a woes stream.
>>29430 Sup bros, /Christian/ here. Just wanted to wish you all the best with your final Rite of 2020 and for it to be a stunning success. I pray 2021 to be an even spicier year than this one, and may God be with you all...
>>37932 Fellow Christbro here. God bless you too, anon. 2021 will be spicy indeed. >Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. - Revelation 3:10
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Gazing into the night sky Monday, Jupiter and Saturn, the two largest planets in the solar system, will appear closer together than they have ever been since the Middle Ages, offering billions of people around the world a celestial treat around the holidays, according to Rice University. On Dec 21, the winter solstice, a day when the Earth's poles have their maximum tilt away from the Sun, offering the shortest period of daylight of the year, Jupiter and Saturn will almost appear as a double planet, which is called a "conjunction" by astrologist. "Alignments between these two planets are rather rare, occurring once every 20 years or so, but this conjunction is exceptionally rare because of how close the planets will appear to one another," said Rice University astronomer Patrick Hartigan. "You'd have to go all the way back to just before dawn on Mar 4, 1226, to see a closer alignment between these objects visible in the night sky." Between December 16 and 25, the two planets will appear as a double planet. The conjunction will take place in the low western sky for about an hour or so after sunset during this period of time. "On the evening of closest approach on Dec 21 they will look like a double planet, separated by only 1/5th the diameter of the full moon," said Hartigan. "For most telescope viewers, each planet and several of their largest moons will be visible in the same field of view that evening." Hartigan said those who miss the celestial event next week will have to wait until 2080. After that, the conjunction won't occur until sometime after 2400. The Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, will live stream the celestial event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrRcfaWutLQ
Sadly my Swedish fren flaked on the final draft of his rite for tonight smh. >>37944 (observed) Unfortunately it’s going to be cloudy and raining here lad. >>37932 Thanks lad, take care. >>37741 >>37742 Thanks based lurkers. Lots of love here.
>>37953 I can't see anything where I am either, it's completely fogged out.
>>37741 >>37742 >>37932 >>37933 (Observed) Heil, based lurker bros! You lot have my thanks for your kind words. I was going to post this last Thursday for fpt, but I forgot. I have a strange feeling today. I can't quite describe it. It's almost like that clean feeling after a shower. Not the first time I've felt this way though. https://invidious.xyz/watch?v=SrVmSJ5CHc4 Today, we witness the foretelling of the coming battle in the War. Our victory is already written in Akhasa. We will be vindicated. Sieg Heil!
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>>37957 Chicago checking in. Just so happens that Great Conjunction here is tonight, but since I'm a Pisces and my natal house is ruled by Jupiter, I did my ritual from 1221 - 1345hhrs. Jupiter's color is purple, so acquired purple candle and purple flowers. I created my sacred circle and had Occult ritual music playing as I lit the candle and asked Jupiter for accumulation of wealth for myself and my Folk, security on our path and continued help with my IRL group. Also invoked Saturn's help with discipline, helping with our secrets (against doxxing), and personal discipline/structure with local organizing. I had significant visions during the meditation and as I asked for help for /our/ people, tears began to flow. May our efforts today go forth like waves helping each of us and manifesting abundance in each of our lives. May The Black Sun be our guide to the Logos! Much love to you all brothers. So mote it be!
>>37966 (observed) Great ritual lad.
>>37966 Saturne : Frigg Jupiter : Thor. Mars : Tyr Lune : Heimdall Sun : Baldr Vénus : Freyr/Freya Mercure rétragrade : Loki Mercure : Wotan
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>>37981 Thank You. A bit of caution today. I cast an I-ching for guidance on my IRL group going forward into the New Year. I was given Gua #39 (Jian - Hardship). https://divination.com/iching/lookup/39-2/ I use the Alfred Huang (taoist) version and in my cast there were 2 moving lines, one greater Yang and one Greater Yin. According to tradition you are to use the Yin line when there are two moving lines. Line 1 says - "Going forward: Hardship Coming back: Praise Waiting for the proper time." Here's Huang's full translation for this part. "The bottom line is a yin element at a yang place. Its attribute is weakness; and its place is not correct. It does not respond to the yin element at the 4th place. All these conditions indicate that it is not favorable to go forward. The bottom line is that at the beginning of the hardship it is better to seek an understanding of the situation before acting. If one at this place acts blindly, he will fall into the darkness of the Upper Gua, Water. If he understands the situation and returns, staying in the Lower Gua, Keeping Still, he will be praised." It seems caution continues to be our duty for the present moment, though this Hexagram also doesn't mean "give up" it says to bide our time and continue to prepare. Can we get a Tarot draw sometime soon? I'd like to see if there are any correspondences. Blessings to you brothers! Our time will come.
>>37720 Excellent links. I reviewed both and I must say, very interesting reads. Look for portents, and be your own stoic center for the next decade of you can. You may need it. Badly. >>37765 >I always forget how many lurkers with have here too. I have no idea about the actual numbers, but I will say I managed to re-locate this thread after months of digging (or at least giving 8ch a good rest). So, as far as I'm concerned, Fate has brought me here for a reason. Might as well learn. On a direct thread note, even though I did not get any pictures, I was able to view and enjoy the Great Conjunction. And even though I don't have any local Druid/Pagan/Bond type members around (at least that I'm aware), I still performed a small ritual/chant just in observation/acknowledgement of Jupiter and Saturn. As well, I'm a long distance from being in Brit-land (Britain, Scotland, Ireland). Consider this anon a lurker from half a world away, with the Rocky Mountains in the backyard. Many Blessings.
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Yule Tidings, Lads Thought would leave this here you all, seems very appropriate for both Pagans and Christbro lurkers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76DYeyEEjVs Guided by The Green Knight, travel through the centuries to see the pagan roots of Yuletide from the Dickensian, to the Arthurian and back to the Anglo-Saxons and Norse. Dig into the origins and history of the Christmas season. Written by Thomas Rowsell of Survive the Jive and with art by Christopher Steininger.
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>>37985 >Can we get a Tarot draw sometime soon? I'd like to see if there are any correspondences. Go ahead lad, there's no rule against it and there's no point in waiting for a new thread because I doubt we'll be having one of those until Jan/Feb >>37994 >I still performed a small ritual/chant just in observation/acknowledgement of Jupiter and Saturn. Good lad. >>38001 Ta ald, it's a cozy video. Merry Yule tidings wherever you are, lads! And Merry Christmas to any Christbro lurkers!
Many Yule tidings to you lads. Hope everyone is having a much better time than I am alone with my dog. Hopefully 2021 will bring better days. >t. Owllad
>>38076 Sorry to hear that lad. Call me in Element if you need to. DS
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why am i drawn to this card?what is it trying to tell me,can anybody try to help me?
>>38244 Solitude, study of the holy texts (Voluspa for example), spiritual retreat, far from the media noise of Loki) So be Heimdall (mysticism). It is the rune ISA and the path of the virgin, which refers to the great Wotan. Basically, spend less time talking and more time meditating. ALU
>>38248 >Heimdall how do i become him?not just a dabnle into his arena,but go all in? also is there a free english voluspa i can use that you know of?
>>38121 shit quit working on my laptop, and I can't remember my password to use on my phone. Stand by, lad, may have to create a new account. Happy new year, lads. I lost more than I should this year, but I did just buy an 04 IS300,so that's a plus.
I ended up watching 12 hours of Woes this week. Think I've overdosed on doompills smh. Happy new year lads.
>>38508 Happy new year! I've been watching a lot of the woes interviews as well.
>>38531 Thanks lad. Do you have a favorite so far? I liked the Distributist one. Horus seems like a cool guy too. Pretty sure he used to go under his real name a couple of years ago on youtube and he was a pagan or at least a Catholic with pagan sympathies. I might be miss remembering that last part though.
>>38537 Probably Computing Forever, he's done a lot of good trying and wake people up from the virus narrative, even though he doesn't talk about the tribe (though that does make his videos easier share with normals). I also like that Luke Smith promotes independence from the system and rural living. It seems like there's a bit of conflict between the guests as to how much we should try to separate from society. I lean more towards separation since the effect we can have on society is very limited, especially in our disorganized state, and with what's coming down the pipe line with the vaccine and the great reset it seems like a large degree of separation may be necessary. Also, I was surprised and somewhat depressed that some of the guests like Greg Johnson are still buying the whole virus narrative.
>>38541 I can't find the Computing Forever stream. I guess it was on Dlive? I liked Luke Smith too, first time I've come across him. I also lean towards separation, I mean what else is there to do? We can't counter our enemies on ground they control yet, we'll never be able to do that until the repulsive system they're building becomes decrepit and overthrown. Self reliance and building communities is best and healthy anyway and will strengthen us. I sometimes worry about how the government in future will treat rural people though. In Britain the countryside is the natural bastion of conservatism and white people. Tony Blair already tried to destroy rural communities when foot in mouth happened and the government ordered unnecessary mass culling and burning of livestock. The same guy who advised the government to do that is the same guy advising the gov now on lockdowns etc. I feel the urge to fed post whenever I think of it. So I wonder what the government will do in a decade or two when they need white scapegoats and the only place to find convincing ones will be in the country. One whitepill though I think is that in coming years advances in tech will help along our separation and strengthen us without us having to become too isolated from other people around our nations. I'm talking about uncensorable communication, cryptocurrency, 3d printing, drones and robotics etc.
>>38508 >>38531 Milleniyule was very good this year. >It seems like there's a bit of conflict between the guests as to how much we should try to separate from society. I lean more towards separation since the effect we can have on society is very limited, especially in our disorganized state, and with what's coming down the pipe line with the vaccine and the great reset it seems like a large degree of separation may be necessary. >I sometimes worry about how the government in future will treat rural people though. Very cogent take. We are at a crossroads. Both paths have their strengths and weaknesses. Detach and break free from manipulation, gaining more immediate sovereignty but sacrificing strength down the road when a larger state actor wants to round us up like Uighurs or any other rural undesirable. Or we stay in the belly of the beast, where we are already tortured and tormented, but maintain some control of the appendages of the beast itself and absorb some of its strength. We could probably have some great debates on this topic. Governments are going to make it extremely difficult to live a rural life going forward. I think whether or not we live rurally or in cities, whites need to start massing in a singular location. I don't see any other way forward. It is this multicultural society that has ruined us. We must demand our right to freedom of association. We must risk our lives on it (not blaze of glory, but risk our jobs etc.) >in coming years advances in tech will help along our separation and strengthen us without us having to become too isolated from other people around our nations. I'm talking about uncensorable communication, cryptocurrency, 3d printing, drones and robotics etc. I have been thinking about this as well. Advancements in technology haven't just empowered nation-states, they have done a lot to empower the individual. We need to utilize and further develop these technologies to strengthen our own communities and empower ourselves. We need to start farming with modern equipment but selling only to whites. We need to start policing and protecting ourselves. We need to develop methods and tactics to turn companies' HR departments against nonwhites whenever possible. For example, I am a team lead at work and a black guy known for using the race card was put on my team. He was holding it over my head every day so I wouldn't give him as much work as others lest he report me for racism. Well, one day he told myself and two teammates that if he got COVID he would spread it, and would also intentionally spread AIDS if he was infected. While I'm not afraid of COVID, I reported him to HR so that I would have first strike and use the company's anti-retaliation policy against him (can't report me for racism). While I wasn't able to get him fired (probably because he was black), I did manage to get him removed from my team.
>>38556 The computing forever stream was on dlive, the archive is on woes' bitchute. https://www.bitchute.com/channel/OUbfw7ulVP2n/
>>38560 You make a good point about mass congregation. If there's enough awake whites in a town who refuse to go along with the agenda(s), particularly business owners in the case convid, much good could be done. A small pro-white town could also work in tandem with a rural community around it. It seems like our biggest problem is that pro-whites are spread out and disorganized and thus zapped of any collective power we might otherwise have. I'm not sure how we can get people to organize and mass up, though if a lot of people are going to be losing their jobs for refusing the vaccine then they should be organizing with other nationalists and sensible whites, and moving the rural areas and small towns where there is already strong opposition to the agenda and reinforcing that. Also, if people are going to be forced to take a stand against the agenda anyway then there is less reason to be afraid of doxing, feds and other pitfalls of organizing, (so long as they don't the iq of a porch monkey) though maybe my perspective is a bit skewed since I don't have any dependents. On a side note how many people do you think there actually are who are explicitly or implicitly pro-white?
>>38541 >Computing Forever, havent watche him in years
>>38560 >Advancements in technology haven't just empowered nation-states, they have done a lot to empower the individual. We need to utilize and further develop these technologies to strengthen our own communities and empower ourselves. We need to start farming with modern equipment but selling only to whites. We need to start policing and protecting ourselves. Yes exactly. We need a sort of social engineering, though I hate to use such a phrase. Social engineering but applied benignly and with more incentives and rewards rather than punishments since we can't really punish anyway apart from ostracizing. This is a strong enough punishment in itself anyway once you've established community norms though. We need some kind of social credit system that operates in a decentralized manner using decentralized tech that people will actually gain from being a part of. I think Urbit will be able to help with this but idk for sure yet. We'll see how it pans out. >>38568 Ta lad.
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Good evening lads, a could use your thoughts on an event that just occured. I have successfully completed a one month streak of semen retention and no-porn as of today, and while lying in bed at night, I was suddenly overcome with a great desire to break my streak. My body was suddenly pulsing with warm energy in waves, and I was overcome with lust. While I have experienced relapse in the past, it was never as distressing as this one. I heard a soft voice in my head speak to me and tell me to give up my efforts and abandon my God. I accept full responsibility for my lack of discipline to stay the course, and I will be doubling down on my efforts to see my goal through. That being said, as a Christ-bro, I am greatly disturbed that this has occured, and I take this as a sign that I should take Spiritual Warfare more seriously. I'm angered and disgusted at myself that I was propositioned like this. I could use some advice on how to get stronger, so this does not happen again. Any thoughts?
>>38727 >I should take Spiritual Warfare more seriously Sounds to me like you already know what you're doing. We are guaranteed to go through trials and testing, so you can events like this one certainly will continue to occur as you move along your journey. You must simply say "Get behind me, Satan!" and push the thoughts from your mind. If the thoughts persist, do your best to distract yourself. I have seen cold showers recommended, but I have never bothered to take one in times of temptation. I usually go for pushups, but if it is close to bedtime there aren't many options that will help you go to sleep. It is at situations like these that I begin to understand where self flagellation comes from. Perhaps give your face a couple hard slaps. There are no straight answers for this, but we must continue to fight the Devil at all costs. God bless and congratulations on your milestone.
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>>38728 First thing I did after waking up this morning was pray for forgiveness and took a cold shower. Now I'm right back on the horse and will be taking extra precautions at night to prevent any binge from occuring. Thank you fam, your insight is much appreciated.
>>38727 "Lust" is healthy and normal. Unironically get a girlfriend. I don't mean that in an insulting way. Semen retention is a meme, you can lose it without realizing, accidentally while dreaming and even just through having a piss. It isn't going to give you any special powers. It's good that you're cutting out porn though, well done. Nofap too is good but also kind of a meme since most people who have a fap problem do it out of boredom. If you keep busy you're not going to do it. Getting all twisted out of shape feeling guilty because you got horny is stupid and will only create a vicious circle of more anxiety and obsessivness. All that energy you're wasting on anxiety should be channeled into thumos which will in turn make you more confident in your own skin and capable of completing real world projects and goals, creating a virtuous cycle. Flagellating yourself will do the opposite and turn you into some weird unattractive obsessive and that kind of behaviour is just as bad as being stuck in a bad fap cycle. Don't do that.
>It is at situations like these that I begin to understand where self flagellation comes from. Bloody hell >>38767 >pray for forgiveness Aye, sounds like nasty Abrahamic self flagellation is at work here, mixed with the classic Rabbinical culture of demonization and guilt in regards to all things 'sexual', which has plagued our collective psyche for a millennium or two. Porn and masturbation should certainly be abstained from and rejected entirely as a habit, but surely, this down trodden and wretched attitude of some fever brained monk-celibate, is not the way. There is another way to embrace the Christ Tradition, which transcends the wicked influence of the wretched desert spawned demon the others call 'god', but it is difficult to even ascertain such a path, and more difficult still to embrace. Ah well, millennia of plagiarism, infiltration and general corruption, will do that to a religion, and we are left to pick up the scraps, I wouldn't have it any other way to be honest, it's a privilege to be born with this duty at hand. Unlike Nietzche, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater in regards to Christianity, but my goodness, that is some very, very filthy bathwater indeed. Also mate, leave your nob alone, and try to do so without whipping yourself for your 'very naughty temptations'.
>>38777 (highly portentious) >>38727 Semen retention is not a meme, but unless you are using the energy that you are redirecting as part of a complete Daoist system of internal alchemy/magic, (ie, the context from which the technique is taken) it is not very useful. Nofap is great though.
Fpt here glad to see the thread is alive and well and the lads are all around a quick music video for a certain lurker... https://youtube.com/watch?v=NmJUPdTzp2g I haven't been around much been doing a lot of self reflection trying to break bad habits and improve my health and mindset making slow but steady progress. My 20th ritual went well the great wheel is turning and the world is changing, for some reason I kept getting the mental images of an iron shod wheel crushing inverted pentagrams, couldn't stop giggling on the way home. Blessings to you all my friends.
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>>38796 Actually it is a meme, because it actually has no basis in reality. I've done Daoist practices before, for a very long time, did Neidan from both the orthodox Maoshan and the remnants of the original heterodox Maoshan, and it's no better than Western RHP traditions such as the Golden Dawn. In fact I knew a group of TCM doctors that actually founded a magical order called the Order of the Sacred Comma, led by a very old guy who's in his 80s who's been practicing his hybrid system of Neidan from Jerry Alan Johnson's books and Golden Dawn/Regardie/Fortune's teachings. The Daoist system itself isn't nearly as old as claimed either, because once you actually get deep, they will admit that the original Daoist teaching were oral, much like pagan teachings, and have been lost. The classics and the practices adopted by the schools are merely adaptations of Chan Buddhism. Their definition of an immortal is also much different in essence than what an antinomian LHP practitioner considers an immortal, it is self-destructive just like the Abrahamic practices. >>38779 This poster is correct, there is nothing to be ashamed of with regards to masturbation, pornography is a massive problem though. Not only does it rewire your brain to make you addicted and need it more and more often, but the porn industry of today is even worse than the porn industry before the internet. Behind the smokescreen is child prostitution and snuff, by partaking in porn you are contributing in their evil, even if you watch it for free. So what do I suggest? I have a girlfriend, but before I had a girlfriend I would visualize past encounters with women I knew, that was adequate, it also helps you learn to visualize. Disagree with your comment regarding Christianity though, it is an irreconcilably Judaic element, better men have tried to reconcile it with natural European spirituality and failed, because it is incompatible. This idea is much akin to what Evola espoused, I don't much like Evola, he was nothing but a reactionary. The Armanen and Serrano were doing something different than reconciliation, and were instead decoding from early Christianity what was encoded into it by the skalds. Refer to the image, Sinterklaas/Santa = Wodan.
Also, this is Boer anon again. I can't help my anti-Anglo sentiment, my connection to my ancestors is incredibly strong and my desire for retribution has not been satiated. Having said that, even though I hate England, I have met good English people who have helped me in the past, and while most English were very disappointing, I cannot deny that the same could be said of most of any people. I have decided to uphold my promise of sharing with you the first scan of a certain trilogy from an individual I consider to be a shill along with Edred Thorsson, I'll scan the rest of the trilogy and the 55 club books later. I am interested in debating the matters pertaining to the attached book with you in time. Particularly the matter of Zoroastrianism, this individual, Aelfric Avery, is on the Flowers bandwagon and as such is promoting Zoroastrianism. The original Armanen masters made no connection between Germano-Celtic (Aryo-Germanic) currents and the Iranians, instead they made connections to the Vedas. Zoroastrianism was opposed to the Vedas, and was the original anti-Vedic cult. I've looked a bit into the early history of Zoroastrianism and discovered that Ahura Mazda was considered the evil one by his original followers, and was believed to be a black dragon. There was a holy war, in which Ahura Mazda fought against a host led by Indra (Donar/Thor) from the Vedas, so there is no way to reconcile Zoroastrianism with Armanism since the original Armanists did not attempt to do such a thing and were convinced that the tradition was related to the Vedics, and as such Zoroastrianism cannot be a part of it since it essentially anti-Vedic. I've looked into some of the more philosophical reasons behind why people would want to make such associations, and it stems from the belief that the Aesir = Asuras, and the Devas = Abrahamic spirits, which seems to me a load of bullshit. Avery to his credit does a good job of outlining the esoteric aspects of Zoroastrianism, however as previously stated, this is a new addition and has nothing to do with the Armanic tradition and is more of a personal opinion of his. Also, if you look into early history, you'll know that there were also a people in the Vedic lands called Asura, who were the (((merchant))) class who were kicked out of Vedic India. These are the people who moved into Persia and corrupted the early Persian Aryans. So I believe Zoroastrianism to be intricately linked to Judaism, as a form of Proto-Judaism akin to the Hyksos Shepard kings of Egypt, it is even has a holy trinity. I know the bible says that they were influenced once the Persians saved them from captivity in Babylon, but it probably goes much, much deeper. I am the one who made the Wodan = Sinterklaas post too just for clarity.
>>38808 File seems too big to upload, here is Mega.nz link - https://mega.nz/file/M1xC1azZ#oIlXRnw4ay0tKIwjRjbnkY8OoUhmS5LRGVd9yFrc8yg
>>38808 Sure I remember you. I suspect that once again, any tolerable yet half baked esoteric dabbling you may have in store, will be again overshadowed by your vile, seething hatred for the British people, as well as your general resentful and wretched attitude towards life. Ah well, maybe you learned a lesson, as nobody here bought into your bullshit the last time round and gave you a proper thrashing. One need only look to your previous posts to see that you are one disturbed little fucker. And once again, I would suggest you fuck right off to whatever Germanic forest LARP group you fancy. Better yet, go hang out with the nordicists and you can bash those 'subhuman slavic eastern europeans' all you want... bloody pathetic mate, living in Africa did quite the number on you. As for the association of the Aesir with Abrahamic entities and archetypes, I think there is certainly a case to be made, which unsurprisingly upsets the attitudes of many of us. Of course, it is not so simplistic as directly equating Yahweh or some spirit with Odin, for example, but a broad potential correlation is there. Regardless, this is certainly a controversial area worthy of further study. Just an interesting point, I do recall the Eddic legends surrounding 'King Heidrek', who, after decrying Odin as a contemptible monster and threatening to slay the god with his legendary weapon, 'Tyrfing', is then cursed by Odin to die by the hands of lowly thralls, before cowardly fleeing before the heroic king. Furthermore, this brings to mind a certain eerie portion of the biblical book of Job, where Yahweh performs its usual gloating, but with a hint of unease regarding the potential of this 'Leviathan' - "No one is ferocious enough to rouse Leviathan; who then can stand against Me"? Well, perhaps King Heidrek WAS worthy enough to stand against 'him'. Likewise, there are of course traditional legends which ascribe the lineage of the Norse with the Vanir, not the Aesir. Likewise, the Germans (aka, the Goths of legend), claim lineage from the Jotunn, the giants of myth, perhaps the very same giants (archetype) so demonized in the bible. Of course, these legends have been warped and appropriated by various peoples to suit their interpretation or agenda, a conclusive analysis is not possible. Luckily, when it comes to spiritual matters, a conclusive rational analysis is not at all necessary, or even ideal, it's good to keep that in mind. All in all, the correlation of the Eddic Aesir, with the Vedic Asuras, is compelling, but I am not yet wholly convinced. Regarding Zoroastrianism, it seems to bear all the hallmarks of a Traditional, 'Aryan' religion, in a fairly pure form. However, there is certainly an underlying darkness and convolution to the entire affair, a dark undercurrent which permeates it, made even more daunting by its deep association with the exiled jews. The Hyksos are another fascinating topic, I have always considered them wayfaring kin of generally 'Scythian' horse-nomad stock of a particularly 'dark' denomination, who then usurped Egypt. Perhaps it is very fitting that the much later appearing 'Khazars' (who occupied the same land as ancient Scythia) and their tribal confederate constituents, were the Jewish powerhouse of the early medieval world. All the more fitting that it was the Nordic-Rus 'Vikings' who annihilated them!
>>38813 >Ah well, maybe you learned a lesson Not likely, he was in the Rhodesia thread earlier this week with more d/c.
>>38815 Lmao, just took a skim through the thread. His mania has increased ten fold since he was last here, but it seems he pulled himself together for a somewhat interesting post here in /druid... Is he a troll, or genuine fever brained African Boer? At this point who gives a fuck, we'll see if he derails any more threads into the shitter I suppose.
>>38808 I tried asking a young boer girl out that lives here, but eh to no avail. Send more.
Quick question for the lads who watched wews stream is coalin still a hideous troglodyte?
>>38813 My vile seething hatred and bigotry is something they have brought upon themselves, if they could undo the destruction of the Boer states, concentration camps, see to it that half of our children did not die during that war, then it would be a clean slate. However, not only can't that be undone, but the British set up Apartheid over the span of decades with lackeys like Botha, Smut (both born in British territories essentially spies) and Hertzog (early infiltrator Jew) then as soon as we break away from the commonwealth they start fucking us over for a niggers, so it's not once bitten so to speak. I said what I had to say, I acknowledge that there are individuals here worth exchanging ideas with and that's why I'm here, nothing more nothing less, so I'm not looking for your permission or your approval, if you have a problem with me then don't reply. As for my half baked dabbling, I disagree, but since esoteric matters tend to be somewhat arbitrary there is no use in proving you wrong, you can believe Daoism is not the same as any polluted Buddhist branch as much as you like, or you could buy Jerry Alan Johnson's memoirs and read about how the Celestial Masters (largest and dominant orthodox school in which Johnson is a high priest, along with orthodox Maoshan and Longmen Pai) are joined annually by Jesuits for the purpose of their own version of inner alchemy, because they do have spiritual practices that overlap. Now that the unpleasantness is done, I'm aware of the Norse/Vanir connection and that Scandinavians held Freya and Freyr in higher regard compared to Continental Germans. I wasn't completely aware of the Goth-Jotunn link though, but it's an interesting concept to think about considering some speculate that the original Aryans were remnants from the fall of Sumer, they were said to have been semi-nomadic guards/mailmen of sorts for messages passed between the cities by the Sumerian godkings, who supposedly trusted them because these nomads were related to them. I've heard it said that these godkings are what the jews refer to as Nephilim in their distorted mythology. With regards to the Aesir being connected to the Asuras, I've yet to be convinced of this fact either. Normies assume the warlike aspect of the Aesir is proof of such, but I think the warlike nature exhibited in mythology is merely due to the circumstances in which the people who wrote the myths found themselves, they lived in harsher environments surrounded by enemies thus had to be that way. Beyond that I'm not sure about other arguments that connect them so feel free to educate me on the subject or steer me in the right direction if you could. Agreed with regards to the Zoroastrian thing, as stated it points to the early Persians being corrupted by Abrahamics rather than the Persians coming to their aid as the means by which Zoroastrianism influenced the tribe. The war against Indra thing is also a dead giveaway, because Indra is as Aryan as it gets with regards to gods, in fact, as the Hindu cults became less Aryan the worship of Indra became uncommon. Today there are very few groups that still work with Indra, primary among them is the Kalash people, who are less mixed than the average Indian or Pakistani from the region, and therefore more Aryan. With regards to the Hyksos I could be wrong that they were proto-Semites, but the evidence points the other way, allegedly they bred themselves into the nobility by prostituting their daughters and wives to the nobles, thus literally cucks. When a noble's wife was barren this would result in the adoption of the Hyksos bastard, and so it went, this is supposedly connected to why some Jews trace their lineage matrilineally. Akhenatum then made, if I remember correctly, the first monotheistic religion, slowly but gradually eroding the old ways until other cults were outlawed, not unlike what happened in Europe. The Hyksos being chased out of Egypt correlates well with the myth of the Jews running out of Egypt, but instead of being victims they were deposed parasitical rulers.
Aesir = archetypes Yggdrasil = Tree of life = kabbalah https://16chan.xyz/pol/res/35008.html
>>38833 Your 'half baked esoteric dabbling' is most welcome, it's what everyone else is doing here. I am simply predicting that once again, your petty identity based frustrations will once again overshadow the conversation, we shall see. If you want to vent your ridiculous and self-defeating resentment against the British, for engaging in relatively tame placations (by historical standards) of hostile conquered populaces, that's fine. While you're at it, why not have a go at the Romans for salting the ruins of Carthage? Now that's a proper grievance! I'm merely suggesting that this is a truly futile place to engage in this nonsense, why pollute this ground? Why not fuck off? Again, there are likely countless spots on the internet where you can express your subversive anti-Anglo vitriol with groups of fellow 'wronged' Boers. Indeed, there are no shortage of resentful peasants from all over the world yelling at us daily for all the 'wrongs' the British have committed. Meanwhile we are all currently wallowing in the same collective Jewish psychic gutter, and have been for quite some time. No doubt the elites find these petty divisions amongst us absolutely hilarious... you are truly pathetic for buying into this garbage. But I digress, point is, this is a ridiculous place to peddle your message, and comes off as low effort trolling. An old English hooligan adage goes like "No one likes us, we don't care". So take your grievances elsewhere child. But if you want to push the utterly futile resentment aside for the purposes of this discussion, as well as all the supplementary bullshit we have seen from you in the past, ranging from Slav bashing to 4chan tier tirades, why not stay for a chat I suppose? In regard to the fairly conclusive Goth-Jotunn link, and the Norse-Vanir link, I think it is fitting that none of these groups are claiming descent from the Aesir, who have been shown to be quite devious and wretched, as demonstrated by the duel between the heroic King Heidrek and the feckless Odin. Of course, the Aesir are also portrayed in other lights, and nuance of interpretation is abundant. As for the connections between the Gothic/Germanic Jotunn, and the biblical Nephilim, I think there is yet another compelling case to be studied here. However, I am instinctively weary of any ideas which place ancient 'Aryans' in the middle East. There are no shortage of Christian Europeans these days who have a fetish for the ancient Hebrews and their desert God, and desperately desire to claim descent from the 'tribe of Dan' or whatever other demented concoction. Perhaps this is simply a warped interpretation of a true ethnogenesis, I am simply not sure. Regarding the Asura-Aesir connection, I am certainly not well versed on the matter. I do know that it's a fairly well established field of study, and it seems clear that there is a more or less 'general' correlation to be drawn. But I must reiterate that such a simplistic drawing of equivalence between the two groups is foolish. However, one need only look to linguistic similarities, the common mythologies they share, etc. Again, a conclusive resolution on the matter is likely not possible due to the separate cultures of the Eddic Norse, and the Vedic Indians. But luckily, such a resolution is not at all necessary for our purposes I would imagine. Interesting observation regarding the Kalash people. I always find it daunting to view these isolated genetic enclaves of Europoids in Asia. One need only look to the mountain 'Pamiri' folk of Tajikistan to have a glimpse at another example of the ancient Indo Iranian population of Asia, before the Turkic and Mongolic eradications. And of course, these populations often carry slight glimmers of the ancient ways. In regard to the Hyksos, it helps to point out the utter insanity of the ethnically applied term, 'Semite'. You want to see a Semite? go to Saudi Arabia or Yemen. Want to see a generally Caucasoid inbred mongrel pretending to be a Semite, go to Brooklyn or Tel Aviv. Linguistically, however, it is another matter entirely. After all, the Semitic languages are truly ancient, being spoken by the populations of old Sumer and Akkad, and predate the Hyksos arrival in the region. I have always agreed with the interpretation that the Hyksos of Akhenaton form the ideological nucleus of what later evolved into Judaism. The Exodus of the Bible is a cover for the expulsion of the Hyksos dynasty and their followers. As with all things regarding 'Judaism', the majority of it is a fever dream of lice ridden medieval Jewish 'Rabbis', living in what is today Russia and Ukraine. The idea that the Judaic tradition is some 'ancient' direct continuity, is a complete farce. The entire fabricated history and identity of these people is a demented joke. Our understanding of history is remarkably warped and short sighted, it pays to emphasize this.
>>34946 >>34984 >>34948 >>34955 Yes there are some of us still around you remember this boer-mong. Never been more proud than now of my great grandad who served in the Boer War, maybe he even bayoneted his Opa! Mirth aside, this twat is using esoteric topics as a front to push his painfully obvious shilling. Inb4 he pulls the tired old Anglo-Jewish demoralization tactics yet again in his next post, look to the above referenced anons posts from way back then who dismantled this cunt. It appears his apparent recanting of his degenerate sentiments was a ruse, truly, how shocking! Ah well, I called that he would crawl back to this board eventually, attracting these vermin every once in a while is the price we pay for hosting the lodge on an imageboard eh? To the anon's engaging with this actual butthurt african, give your head a shake and think about who you're dealing with Ave to all the lads who have stuck around btw, I know we will endure through this year
>>29430 How do you guys feel about the use of technology as a 'means to an end' in achieving freedom from the Root? Every day I want to rip and tear those circuit boards apart, but I need it for my contributions to the fight to maintain decentralized filesharing platforms. I use Oxidative-Stress breathing meditation to help cope but the inner reflection is only making me more concerned about my current situation.
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>>38833 >>38835 >>38840 Chicago NatSoc checking in. It hurts to see the brothers bickering about these matters. It doesn't do our cause any good to continue picking at wounds that are 70 to 100 years old. We have work to do and threats on our horizon. Let's set aside these ancient conflicts and forge ahead, shoulder to shoulder. Many of us know who the real culprit was in the Boer War and it was Nathan Rothchild and Harry Oppenheimer who were the instigators.
Definitely. Brothers?
>>39174 Always darkest before the Dawn Here's hoping it gets very Dark
>>39174 If this is "darkness" then I want more of it. Way, way more of it.
>>39090 You are correct, and I do know this to be true myself, my hatred towards English is more from personal experiences where they've always betrayed me and my more recent workings with my ancestors in which my bullishness has exponentially increased, especially with regards to English people. I suspect part of it is because I never really dealt with it emotionally (which for a racialist and national socialist is hard, at least for me) and as such I am still coming to terms with it, and in my inability to temper my passions I wrongfully lash out at people who are not responsible. I am fully aware that there are those aware that it was an injustice and that those alive today are not responsible, as I am aware that it isn't as simple as I make it out to be because commoners weren't exactly in the know anywhere in Europe at the time, and were instead all complicit in doing the bidding of kikes one way or another. I do thus apologize for my ignorance in some instances, and as I have expressed I am still interested in an exchange of information and ideas because like it or not we are related and there are very few places where we may freely do so. The jew is ultimately the absolute enemy and the British were just pawns, I do understand that, as other Europeans have been at stages too, and I do not wish to aid them in their war. Your meme is appropriate in more ways than you know, a pleasant day to you Chicago anon.
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>>38835 Could you perhaps provide some sources for the Goth-Jotunn link? To be honest this is a link I am not aware of so you'll have to educate me upon the subject if you would be so kind. With regards to the Aesir, I personally think that this perception of them originates from a Christian mentality, rather than a clear understanding of what myths really portray. For example if we look at the tale of Odin, Tyr, and Fenrir, where Tyr is injured, weakened, and replaced as the high god, this clearly teaches you a lesson about honour. Honour is of great importance to our ancestors, and obviously has a place in Aryan culture, a very important place. But one who is limited by honour makes a bad ruler, because honour could cost your tribe their existence where deceit and cunning could save it, why then choose honour? That is what I think this kind of fiction pertains to. I personally think the myths were multifaceted in the sense that they were intended not only to tell people about their gods, but were also intended to pass on lessons learned from one generation to another. Maybe I'm wrong, but personally looking at it from this perspective has made thing more clear to me, and seem to have a less Christian undercurrent its thought. I personally don't think beings such as Fenrir or Surt are "evil" in the sense that Christians look at it, but instead are associated with the destructive elements of heathen spirituality which are every bit as important as the creative. As you know the best way to build a new structure isn't to build on rotten foundations, but to destroy it first and then build anew. Similar concepts exist in formerly related religions such as Hindu and Buddhism. I may be wrong though, I am open to hearing your interpretation. The image attached is from the Stelle of Naram-Sin, and the text is related to the first book of that trilogy. While I'm aware the term Aryan is a later term, I agree with the term Urrian prescribed to the earlier peoples adopted by some of the old Armanists. As for Sumerians, they weren't Semitic, they had relations with the Semitic Akkadians but were ultimately a completely different people, which is why the Akkadians conquered them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad#Conquest_of_Sumer (The picture from the latter article has an inscription which reads: Battle between the Sumerians (left) and the Semites led by Sargon, armed with bows and arrows. 20th century reconstitution.) It is widely accepted that they weren't Semites, but rather that both influenced one another.
>>38835 I agree it is fascinating to see deviation among the Kalash in comparison to the mixed Indians, it confirms, to me at least, the idea that spirituality is intricately linked to the blood, and that as one mixes one loses connection to what I refer to as the race god, which is a different concept than actual gods and linked to one's racial destiny and principles. I agree the Aesir-Asura subject is not as simplistic as some would like it to appear, and that it would seem that at least for the time being it is not necessary for us to resolve this issue. I agree with regards to your summation of how much the term Semite encompasses, because from my research it is apparent that The Phoenicians and Akkadians though described as Semites, were not related to the proto-Jews religiously or racially. I do know though that by the time of the Bronze Age collapse, the Proto-Jews had cemented massive influence among the Phoenicians, and it is speculated that the Phoenicians were the ones supplying ships for the "Sea Peoples", some of whom were mercenaries and some of whom were Jewish tribes, one even called the "Shekelesh", and these Sea Peoples were attested to have practiced circumcision, more fanatically than others. This reminds me very much of Jews, think for a moment of the recent Danish referendum to ban circumcision, where some 90% of the population voted to ban it, then the Jews, in the same way they had in Iceland, lobbied and threatened Denmark into ignoring the referendum. Circumcision is of the utmost importance to Jews, I have my own suspicions regarding this tradition and why it is essential to them. The Hyksos though were absolutely a branch of proto-kikes, along with the group who left Vedic parts of India to subvert the early Persians and establish Zoroastrianism. Exodus as a cover for the Hyksos expulsion is something we are in absolute agreement upon. A strange theory that some have espoused though, is that this expulsion is related to the Ceasars and the royal houses of Europe later on, I don't personally subscribe to this train of thought, what say you? I think that maybe to some extent you are correct you are right about Jews, that some of the more publicly available information is complete fabrication, but I do think there is an underlying current which is ancient, anti-Aryan, and anti-nature, thus all of them qualify as opponents to both Europeans and nature. Note: It appears the link has expired on volume I, so I'm adding the link again and will remove it in a week. https://mega.nz/file/tlRnBIxI#oIlXRnw4ay0tKIwjRjbnkY8OoUhmS5LRGVd9yFrc8yg
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>>39195 I could see that your posts were not trolling, per se. You offer much good content and I felt you were just exorcising some demons by some of your comments. We all have personal biases and every civilization has a dirty history - somewhere. My great grandfather was born in Hungary and absolutely hated the Polish. He bragged until the day he died that a Polish person never stepped foot in his home. I have had hundreds of pleasant experiences with Poles here in Chicago and harbor no ill-will towards our Pol-bros. I certainly understand where great grand dad was coming from for in his time he had very good reasons to hate the Poles for their roles during WW1 and even before. I never let his experiences taint my expectations. That's just my way of looking at it tho. And one more thing: We are a Lodge and as such harmony, friendship and Brotherly love should be our highest virtues. Harmony being the strength of any institution. Much love to all my BOND brothers on this beautiful day. May blessings continue to come to us and our folk.
they'd rather have us fighting among silly ethnic divisions, cause that keeps us weak. avast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ1qm2gRG5Y
>>39195 >>39196 >>39197 Yeah, good to leave the filth of ethnic bickering behind us, may it never return. It's always vital to assert that we are all examining these spiritual matters from a point of view fundamentally detached from Traditional, historical practitioners. We poke and prod at religious matters in a sterile, scholarly fashion, like a scientist dissecting a frog. Spirituality is a lived experience, it was not intended to be analyzed in this fashion. Of course, we can see the unbalanced reaction against this tendency in the forest congregating LARPers who desperately yet futilely attempt 'rituals'. A balance must be found between scholarly sterility, and fever brained LARPing. However, it could be that we, as inherently modern folk, must simply accept our tendencies, and not desperately seek to copy the actions of our ancestors in an inorganic fashion... Oh well, I've drifted off topic. As for the Gothic-Jotunn lineage, I think it is referenced many times throughout the Sagas. However, this is nowhere near a concrete statement, as one can surely find references drawing such connections between various other groups. What I have heard, but I can't remember where, is that the idea of any connection in lineage between Aesir and the various Germanic peoples, is a later misinterpretation of more ancient Traditions. I am no expert on any of these matters, so take it with a grain of salt. Anywayts, the 'Saga of Hergor and Heithrek' reads, "It is said that in the days of old the northern part of Finnmark was called Jötunheimar, and that there was a country called Ymisland to the south between it and Halogaland. These lands were then the home of many giants and half-giants; for there was a great intermixture of races at that time, because the giants took wives from among the people of Ymisland". As far as I know this reference of land generally denotes one of the many 'Gothic' hotspots. and 'Giants' clearly denote the Jotunn. These Goths who are the descendants of Giants, then of course gave rise, or at least contributed significantly, to the current cultural and ethnic makeup of the Germanic peoples. As for the Asura connection, it is important to again emphasize that any potential link between the Aesir, the Asuras, and the Abrahamic spirits, are not concretely defined. We have already explained that isolated cultural developments in the respective regions of these mythical entities, inevitably resulted in differentiation occurring. Even 'IF' they all share a common primordial 'root', they evolved into markedly different archetypes over time, under the oversight of Indians, Nordics, or Semites. A more prudent interpretation is that these archetypes, which exist independently of any one culture, are 'latched onto', by certain peoples, and then filtered through their respective cultural and racial peculiarities. Therefore, we may witness certain similarities between Odin, the Asuras, and even Yahweh, because a common 'energy' is at play. The Abrahamic archetype does not begin and end with the largely fictitious ethno-religious group called 'jews', they are merely the patchwork tribe which has latched onto it, to a more supreme degree than any others, at least in our recorded history. As for any simple minded accusations of this or that deity being 'evil' and 'all bad', of course, we can dismiss these polarized and absolutist assertions outright. Odin cannot be judged entirely based on his cowardly and wretched actions before King Heidrek. However, this legend in particular offers an often overlooked insight into the true nature of the Aesir, and Odin in particular, who are too often perceived as completely heroic and brave. But perhaps this is simply a fault of contemporary post-modern 'neopagans', and does not represent a Traditional view on the matter. You have already suggested the alternate interpretation of Odin's actions, representing the benefit of cunning strategy, but I would suggest reading the legend itself, where the true feckless nature of Odin is made abundantly clear. Regardless, such things are beyond the scope of my knowledge, and perhaps lost in history altogether. In regards to Semites, it is again vital to differentiate between linguistics, ethnicity, and even culture. Of particular importance is the fact that many different peoples with different genetic makeups and traditions, were all speaking Semitic languages in the relevant regions. For example, there was (and still is), a profound difference between the culture and heritage of the desert dwelling Arab tribes, and the sprawling city building Akkadians and Assyrians, but they were all speaking 'Semitic languages'.
cont. Regarding Jews, I reaffirm that the majority of their history is a complete fabrication, there is so very little archeological or cross-cultural evidence to validate any of their nonsense. There was indeed a nucleus of proto-Jews to be found in the Levant, the likes of which were encountered and conquered by the Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, and so on, and we have already associated this group with the expelled 'Akhenaton' and his Hyksos contingent, whose descendants surely influenced Persians and Phoenicians. However, this patchwork coalition of Egyptian exiles dwelling in the Levant, were not even a remotely cohesive force, in political, religious, or ethnic terms. They constantly fought each other, borrowed and stole their traditions from the neighboring groups, etc, it was and is a complete mess. We can see hints of this strong division when Moses descends from the mountain, only to find his followers worshipping idols. This story is a simple allegory for the true reality of doctrinal differences manifesting, culminating in the equally allegorical separation of the 'tribes of Israel'. The majority of the ethnic, historical and religious traditions and claims of Judaic writings, originates solely in the demented minds and scribblings of Pontic-Steppe dwelling 'Rabbis', who some way or another inherited the spiritual tendencies of what we now call 'Judaism'. The idea that Judaism (both its religious and ethnic content), is the result of a direct continuation of tradition and people from Middle Eastern 'Semites', is a complete lie. Much of the Judaic mythos, in its consciously understood, doctrinal and written form, is barely 1000 years old. But sure, the Abrahamic archetype is indeed primordial, and we can maybe see traces of it in the likes of Gobekli Tepe and Baalbek, and perhaps the later appearing proto-Zoroastrian Vedic Indian expatriates who you have mentioned. All -different and separate groups who latched onto a similar, primordial archetype. In regards to the direct connection between the Hyksos expulsion from Egypt and European royalty, it's not something I have explored in depth, due to the veracity, or lack thereof, and general mania, of many of the sources involved in this narrative. As for the association of European royal houses with the Hebrew traditions in general, many have peddled this narrative, and not just European royals, but entire peoples, from the Pashtuns of Afghanistan, to the Black Israelites of America. I view it as a simple method of empowerment and validation with little historicity involved. Whether it be the Merovingian-Frankish royalty claiming 'divine descent from David', or the poverty stricken African American claiming the same thing. When the Germanic tribes entered Roman land and converted to Christianity, they were eager to correlate this new faith with their own rulers for prestige, likewise, when the Pashtuns converted to Islam, they tried the same thing, so did the African American slave descendants, and so on, and so on. I view much of it as purely symbolic accusations, born from these people's forceful reconciliation of themselves and their own identity, with a new, alien faith. All that said, there is certainly some truth to it all, once we cut out the insane narratives peddled by certain forces out there. You might be aware of the potential correlation between the mythical Egyptian Queen Scota, the Milesian-Gaels of Spain, and their settling of the eponymously named 'Scotaland' or Scotland. However, these myths all have a medieval origin, and it's impossible to see any clear cut correlation with earlier traditions, let alone any other supporting tangible evidence. Therefore, it could simply fit into the previously described paradigm, where these legends of 'Scriptural descent', spring up in peoples trying to correlate themselves and their own ethnogenesis, with the foreign religion of Christianity, the myths of which all play out in far away Egypt and the Levant. It is a powerful thing indeed when a populace believes their kings to be descended from the figures of their Holy Books, very politically potent.
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>>39308 Thank you for that introduction to the Goth-Jotunn connection and I will be reading into it. I agree with your point regarding archetypes being filtered through racial and cultured perspectives, it does make sense. However I once again must state I'm still not of the opinion that there is a link, and this is coming from somebody who has done all kinds of magic, from group rituals to redirect a psychic attack aimed at creating a psyop, to my own type of sex magic performed with my lady which resulted in the manifestation of my desires much faster than expected, to working with "demons". I've also worked with Germanic spirits, and from my personal gnosis there is no link between Abrahamic spirits and Germanic spirits. The demons and angels themselves I suspect were designated as such based on the usefulness of the Daimons to the Jewish practitioner. Daimons as you know were considered generally "good" in Greek and Roman times, though there were exceptions. The purpose of a Daimon was generally as a teaching spirit that was tasked by Zeus to teach men, supposedly Daimons were the "men of the golden age" according to Orphic interpretation. However the term seems to be somewhat ambiguous since sometimes gods like Apollo and Dionysus were also referred to as Daimons, and in ritual Daimons were also used as intermediaries between humans and gods, and not just teachers, which is kind of similar to how the Shugendo practitioners of Japan practice. The Shugendo priest prays to a buddha to deliver a message to the Kami, once again in an intermediary role. There's also the fact that Daimon was considered the immortal soul, and is connected to the term and esoteric concept of the Genius, which is found throughout Greek polytheism. My point is that the term Daimon can be considered to mean multiple things, even lesser gods, and when I mean lesser I mean both weaker than the gods, as with most Daimons, and younger, as is the case with Apollo for example. And yet today we use the term with a decidedly negative connotation, this is simply one example of how twisted and warped our perspectives have become. The similarities between the Jewish god and any European god is thus to me explained by understanding that they coopt characteristics of the cultures which they conquer in order to trigger a sort of instinct that we have, "blood memory", which says to us that a concept and archetype sounds familiar, which is why it was so hard to break away from a foreign religion for such a long time, since it went around adopting characteristics of pagan gods, Odin and Zeus chief among them. It is interesting to note that a similar method was used by Buddhists when they went around destroying and mixing with the native religions. The Tibetan Buddhist practices absorbed from the Bon, Shingon Buddhism absorbed from the Shinto and original Shugendo mountain priests, in each instance the esoteric Buddhist practices adopt and corrupt indigenous practices, which is why I believe there's an interesting link between Buddhism and the kikes. I acknowledge as with my previous post that you are correct that Semite was a broad classification which did not denote a certain race, as previously stated the Akkadians were absolutely not related to the tribe, here and there the tribe lifted some cultural aspects though.
>>39310 Continuing with my previous line of thought, it's interesting to note that in Japan it seems to have been less successful, which resulted in the Buddhist destruction period, similar periods occurred in India, so they must have realized that this was a parasitic takeover, though one not as violent and militaristic as the Christian one in Europe. It is interesting to note though, that while I personally also disregard the notion that royal bloodlines are descended from the Hyksos, as well as the Ceasars, they do have a very ample explanation for what is termed the "lost years" of Jewsus, since that particular theory claims that he was studying Buddhism in the East, and there seem to be accounts of a similar individual. That fact alone is what made me believe that there is at least one thing it gets correct. I agree with your analysis of the tribe's modern history being mostly based on historical fabrications or perversions, and that their true origin is connected to the fate of the Hyksos in Egypt and their expulsion into the Levant. I also agree that they're not necessarily cohesive in the traditional sense, as stated I am convinced Zoroastrian (especially the proto-Zoroastrian outcasts from the Vedic lands) and Buddhist doctrines to be emanations of the same source from which Judaism (which I also concur is not a continuation of some pure Semitic cult from the Levant) springs, therefore they had to split up at some stage to accomplish this. It is also interesting to note that I've for a while thought that there were different factions who fight among each other, but when a foreign threat threatens one arm, they all pull together. The recent Epstein debacle was a good example of this, where groups of Jews were willing to expose the operations of another group of Jews, as some sort of internal power struggle. The idea that they are different groups all together though unlikely, has merit, perhaps the proto-Buddhists are not related to the proto-Zoroastrians, however they did originate in the same general region, and both represented some form of opposition to the Vedic practices in what we today know as India. The Zoroastrians were anti-Vedic, and while the Buddhists aren't necessarily anti-Hindu they were very much seen as such during the Indian Buddhist destruction periods. And I understand that the Hindus aren't entirely Vedic today as explained in a previous post, but as the Kalash people indicate, there were for a long time Hindu cults that were true to Vedic tradition, that were probably more numerous at the time, and this is what I suspect Buddhism was trying to obliterate, similar to what they did to the pre-Bon traditions in Tibet, which are also said to be Aryan. I myself am not completely sure what their source is, what seems to underlie their vile being. While I agree with you that there is absolutely a lot of fabrication and misinformation, I do believe that there was some kind of pact or covenant with the force that stand behind them for them to have come this far. Whatever it is, it is probably the closest thing to what I perceive as an objective evil.
>>34984 >I was wondering why you use an imageboard instead of a private board? I am opposed to hiding or obscuring data or discussions or otherwise limiting the discourse in any way, and furthermore as a being living-breathing light who lives out the phrase, "the truth shall set you free" I am also quite opposed to the notion of secrecy & concealment. I have seen first hand it's limitations and possibilities for exploitation and now in collective form, we, have born witness to this for over a decade now. Subsequently all is done in the open, Doing things in the open is absolutely critical, not only to spreading awareness of the culture but also in easing the access. By allowing open (source) access to all you create an environment in which, because any one can input to the discussion, and with the inherent (anonymous) culture, the arguments are weighed on their merits, validity, logic, etc. and not the persona of the poster or what kind of authority they may have. Further doing it in the open, in a place where there are no entry requirements allows for the easier integration of others who may be interested, casually seeking, or maybe even does not have a frame of reference of the culture. Without openness it severely limits the the possible outreach capabilities of the culture, for 2 primary reasons. One being that you must bring the culture to others, and unless you happen to find those interest parties among the masses you will be fighting (the current, largely unenlightened ego driven) society/culture, which is likely to reject out of hand your advances because they did not seek themselves or even a for one who is seeking, they may not know where to look to even attempt to join, and presupposing numerous choices of possible 'private forums' each with their own (elaborate) entry rituals, each will take an amount of effort, any only so much effort can be expended and amidst an ocean of (mis)information, what is behind harder effort walls to access (and that which is not leaked via piracy-esque). This also further complicates, limits, and otherwise stunts the growth and perfection of the community by restricting information flow. Truth analysis is done on with logic, critical comparison, and now as awakened anons, intuition too. Ego or identity plays little to no role what so ever, only the transcendentally objective usefulness of the content. So therefore the role of trusting that individual is an irreverent point and limiting input only hampers growth, both from a propagatory angle and from constructive one. And that's the short answer. Memes, information warfare, and more occult concepts of processing the collective mind are also at play here too.
>>35452 Do you mind posting his channel? >>37018 Ancient gods replaced each other when individuals of exceptional skill, wisdom, virtue etc. extinguished themselves enough to become representatives, or avatars of those Archetypes, giving a face and a name to them. By possessing some of their DNA as their descendants, and by having myths of such ancestors one can more easily strive to become as such, or better. This is why ancient Aryan religion was highly eugenic and in tune with teleological evolution, compared with dysgenic universalist religions. >>37019 Such extinguished white people interacting with the beastmen led to them being venerated as gods, at least for a certain period. Anyway, how are you lads doing? Haven't been around for months. A very turbulent year seems to be upon us. There is a myth in Germanic lore about a magical well that supposedly cleaned racial impurities if one bathed in it, do any of you have more information about it? t. EH Serblad
>>40017 Great to see you back here, Serb bro. >how are you lads doing? Haven't been around for months. Been alright lad. Could always be worse. The mindless, soul crushing day to day has had me back to my degeneracy. Wasting away my days for a meagre pittance of a wage, only to return home to CNN 24/7 being played on the family TVs has had me rather depressed tbh. Every day is a constant unending abstract kind of hell. Has twisted me, and leaves me with no relief but degeneracy to "relieve" stress. Of course, my degeneracy only "alleviates" in the very moment of it on a superficial level. On the whole it makes it all worse. I blame it all on various things in my circumstances. But I can't help but be disgusted with myself for even that. Is it not just weakness and cowardice to blame it on things like that? I am the one who chooses these actions, after all. Should be opportunity to struggle and grow stronger, but I allow it to defeat me... So easy to say, but so difficult to do. Realistically, if I truly had made the choice to, I could leave at any time. I could just walk out the door and never come back. I've been away awhile again, for this. My depressive degeneracy. I have been thinking about meaningful things though. This world is sickly, it is dying, rotting, and submerged in putrid substance. I do not truly need any of it to live, now do I? In the end, am I not the only thing binding me from manifesting my will? I need new circumstances. Where I can focus on my Beloved, and Amor. So that I can see Her face once again... >magic well I know nothing of it, but from your description, I would be none surprised at all to find it to be another variation of the Grail legend. t. Beastlad
>archetypes Dropped. The universe is utterly alive with spirits and beings both good and evil. The gods are real. People believed for thousands and thousands of years in these things, and had their lives profoundly influenced by them, and we're just supposed to think that they were all schizos who didn't mean what they said they believed?
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>>40040 Enjoying the onset of the Age of lead I see. Well, buckle up lad, things are only to get worse. Much worse. Don't let that crush your spirit though, that's what this Struggle is for. Don't be too hard on yourself, sometimes it can be difficult to overcome one's circumstances. You need to find something that motivates you, and such things are becoming increasingly rare in our rotten societies. Not only that, but we are also having what was left of our freedoms taken away from us. Actual freedom, not "freedom" to consoom and coom after slaving away most of our time. You need to understand that most things going on around your were specifically designed to defeat you. To slowly drain you, crush you, disintegrate you. If there is nothing to hold onto, invent it! Create it. It should be your innate ability. This darkest age is simultaneously the greatest opportunity to refine your diamond vessel. I also let myself be carried a bit by the river of Styx, letting myself 'die' so that I can be reborn. > I could just walk out the door and never come back. Where would you go? >This world is sickly, it is dying, rotting, and submerged in putrid substance It's ever-encroaching. Putting it out of it's misery so that a new world can be born may be the only way, but I've been saying this for years. >I need new circumstances Try gradually creating them. One thing leads to another, find a different job, meet different people, move to a different area. Get out of your comfort zone. I know this is easier said than done however. > Grail legend. Well of Urd and Norns remind me of the Lady of the Lake a bit. >>40045 Archetypes are transcendent and impersonal. Gods are personalized manifestations of archetypes. "Schizos" (Not actual schizophrenics mind you) are most likely people who have certain mental faculties that the ancients had and which got gradually bred out of people either due to survival circumstances or systematically by the mundane powers.
>>36397 Have you checked out project algiz on bitchute, he's also a small pagan channel, he has some pretty interesting stuff worth cheaking out. https://www.bitchute.com/channel/WSo4mhvctViM/
>>40017 >>40040 Good to see you both again it seems I'm not the only one who's turned more inwards lately been doing a lot of physical and mental self improvement lately Be well my friends - fpt
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>>40156 It seems we are all doing that brother. +bump+
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Greetings druids. Not posted before I tend to frequent 4chans /x/'s OMG general as I have an interest in ceremonial magick. I'm one of the tripfags there I know the one you refer to as "40k" irl. We both live in the same town on the IoW He apologises for his prolonged absence. I know him from a local bookshop we both frequent and we share similar beliefs. Hes a bit of a character and is well known (and liked) in the town. Some folk think hes a bit kooky but hes got a good nature and is a "people person" Anyway he wanted to send his regards and his absence was due to some family issues and some other shit. He had a brief split with his partner he was shagging this blonde hippy dippy chick for a while and his partner found out but they worked it out and are back together now. He also disappeared irl for 6months to an empty cottage in havenstreet (small village in the sticks) to perform a ritual from a book called "abramelin". No one saw him in this time. Even isolated himself from his kids and partner. I admired his dedication but thought leaving his family for over half a year was a bit much. Argued with him over that and nearly fell out with him but he wanted todo this ritual and nothing was gonna stop him. He tasked me and his partner with leaving food outside this cottage every week. Think he completed this abramelin ritual last nov/dec. He was adamant he had some kind of mystical experience and some revelation had been imparted to him. Something to do with his HGA. He was kind of "different" after he came out of that isolation too. Calmer and less hectic/talkative. I know his partner is a nurse too and the covid/lockdown shit fucked with his head a bit. He ended up getting arrested for lighting a fire in the woods. His household got searched and his 3rd Reich paraphernalia was found. Was in the local papers but I wont post link because I dont wanna dox him but it mentioned he was "clad in robes" and the paper called him a "nazi devil worshipper". That amused him greatly but also disturbed him as the article essentially doxed him. Hes had the police and also the mental health lot on his case (there was talk of sectioning him after the wood fire incident) He gave me this link to 16chan and for ages hes been asking me to let you all know he is ok and he is sorry for his prolonged absence. He also says he will return soon with fresh insights. Just been an incredibly fuck up year for everyone. The bookshop and spiritualist church we used to frequent are shut due to lockdown but I have a direct line to 40k via his phone. Apologies to intrude on your thread druids. Just wanted to let you know 40k is ok. He told me to say he misses you lads and I think he will be very proud that you all continued with the workings in his absence. He will return soon. I will text message him after iv sent this post to let him know I fulfilled the task he set me. Hes been on at me for ages to do this lol. That's all. Gonna message him now. Thanks for your time druids. Be well.
>>40848 Thanks Lad >"nazi devil worshipper" Hearty kek
>>40848 Wew lad. Much obliged for the update. I intuited that a woman was the cause of his absence, but hold him to no fault tbh. He drew the Tower card for himself not too long before he left iirc. It gladdens my heart to hear he’s well and been magically productive in his absence. Send him my love from across the pond.
Oh wow, that is ambitious. I hope he was able to complete the Abramelin operation. It sounds like he was successful enough to generate a large dose of karmic culmination. Hope he's back soon, and much the wiser for it. May he be blessed, may his family be blessed, may the other woman be blessed, and may the gutter trash (((reporters))) involved also be sufficiently blessed to personally discover even the slightest glimmer of the truth of what they saw.
>>40848 >He also disappeared irl for 6months to an empty cottage in havenstreet (small village in the sticks) to perform a ritual from a book called "abramelin". No one saw him in this time. Even isolated himself from his kids and partner. I admired his dedication but thought leaving his family for over half a year was a bit much. Argued with him over that and nearly fell out with him but he wanted todo this ritual and nothing was gonna stop him. He tasked me and his partner with leaving food outside this cottage every week. Think he completed this abramelin ritual last nov/dec. The Book of Abramelin can be found on any book site, or at least Amazon, and I'm sure Llewellyn as well. It's a known book in most esoteric circles, or at least those practicing Majick, at least in today's world. It is possible he had been computing this ritual as well for awhile. Remember, there was a very important/recent conjunction this last December. He was wise to take advantage of that. >He was adamant he had some kind of mystical experience and some revelation had been imparted to him. Something to do with his HGA. He was kind of "different" after he came out of that isolation too. Calmer and less hectic/talkative. You Brits are not alone in the Majick. I am literally half a planet away from you, as a 'Rocky Mountain' anon, and I can assure you he is not alone on his mystical experience. I am another anon like him that has probably been 'activated', or at least 'called' to reconnect with the Mysteries. I think there are many waking up to a deeper psychic 'life' than previously known. Even since the Dec Conjunction, I have personally delved deeper into the Occult science than I have done since the late 80's/early 90's. I think he did have a experience, and I hope it helped heal his Soul. >him but it mentioned he was "clad in robes" and the paper called him a "nazi devil worshipper" In my neck of the woods, that's a mild Saturday night. Be Blessed Brothers of Avalon. You are not alone.
>>40052 You are quite right lad. I have grown to where I can practically see the "face" of the demiurge smirking at me in it all. >Where would you go? North West. Not an easy thing to do for me, but I could. If I don't just go, don't just follow my heart, there will always be a reason I can't, always something to trap and bind me. But in truth, I only bind myself. >putting it out of its misery I'd rather purge the world of the vile substance, slay the candalla for the animals they are. I seek the resurrection of Baldur, and the death of Jehova. The redemption of this plane. >Well of Urd That name is very familiar. Intuitively, I would say it is the Memory of the Blood. Minne. But I have not read of it. I am very much still ignorant. I have operated off of intuition, but I know it is not quite enough. I appreciate your words lad. I've done this too many times. I worry though. Lately I've felt like I'm floating through a dream, like I'm losing myself. Things are really ramping up. We are definitely nearing the end of the Manvatara, or so it seems. Or perhaps this is merely my sleep deprivation. Very well may be. Insomnia is not quite conducive to good health. >>40848 Thank you for the update. I am glad to hear that he is alright. I had a suspicion that woman was involved. I recall we had advised him against it. But, I am sure he has learned the lesson, and I am not in any place to know or to hold it against him. It is his path, after all. Though, I am quite relieved that things were not worse. Heil, brother.
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>>40156 >>40833 Which one of you lads lives near Mt. St Helens? It seemed to me that it gives off a certain vibe (at least as much as I was able to discern by looking it up online), later I read a book written by some Scottish guy, he mentioned it as a potent geomagnetic region. It's one of areas worth looking into, finding various 'thin spots' around the world, places where the boundaries between the worlds are thinner than usual. Already visited a few, have more planned once it becomes viable. I think i'll pick up a book or two on dowsing, although I can sense such places anyway. Finding these sacred mountains, sites, cave complexes etc. is a much more worthy pursuit than ceremonial magic, but also a much more demanding one. You need substantially more time, resources, good physical condition/endurance, equipment and a lot of research. >>40848 I guess he didn't have a loicense for conducting the "nazi devil worshiping" rituals in the local parish kek. I'm glad he is fine, he seemed quite hyped about that girl friend of his before he stopped posting. Relay my greetings to him. >>40907 >I have grown to where I can practically see the "face" of the demiurge smirking at me in it all. Overcoming this current may seem impossible at times, but it's crucial. Being on the right 'wavelength' helps a lot. You can't get away from it's center of gravity physically before you do so mentally/spiritually. >But in truth, I only bind myself This is true, but beware of timing. Plan accordingly. >I would say it is the Memory of the Blood. Minne Correct, and it's something inherent to some of us, but I'm trying to have a greater understanding of it, and sources of mention are rare. >end of the Manvatara Our currents are occasionally breaking through, the end might not be the same for all. On which plane, I do not know... yet. Lately I have a feeling that the Secret Masters which Don Serrano mentioned are now willing to accept me among their ranks, rather than just guide me as until now.
>>40907 >I seek the resurrection of Baldur, and the death of Jehova. The redemption of this plane. Aye, don't we all... But one of the benefits of this age of iron and spiritual decay, is the potential for a clean and fresh revival of our psyches. The 'baggage' of the Abrahamic paradigm, at least in its doctrinal and religious forms, is being washed away by the tide of secular atheism. Of course, this situation is even worse than the previous, as a spiritually bankrupt atheist is even more docile and corrupt than an Abrahamic adherent. However, the potential now exists within certain folk, for a true reinvigoration of spirituality, something which is perhaps closer to a 'Source', if you like. It's a shame, as the people of Germany, Italy, and others, were on track to fulfilling this very situation, during the last century. The spiritual and ideological norms of European-Christendom, which had already decayed to such a vile denomination by the time of the 20th century, could no longer satisfy the European spirit, and the people of certain nations rallied around an entirely new mythos. Unfortunately, the "other side" did not sit idly by, and rallied its' servants to conclusively defeat these upstarts who dared challenge their international order. However, I view the outcome of the War as a mere 'hiatus' and 'delay', for the clear progression that had already been playing out for centuries. The same archetypal forces which clashed 80 years ago will inevitably do so again, in many ways, they already are. Admittedly, the playing field is infinitely different nowadays, with nuclear weapons, globalism, digitized society, and so on, how this will play out is unknowable, at least to myself. However, the specifics are irrelevant, the context is irrelevant, all that matters is the internal drive of oneself to pursue goodness no matter what.
Very casual lurker since 8ch here, came to ask long, in depth questions about the fabric of reality, but as what happens a lot of the time, just laying it out in writing has made me accept the truth. It's gotten quite quiet around here but want to say I love you guys and appreciate your efforts, hope you are all well, hope to start working with you on creating a better future after most of my liberation of self is complete.
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>>41323 Greetings fren, long time lurker here as well. These lads are some of the most based and redpilled around. Posting times are slower when life gets busier IRL, but I've got a feeling things will be picking up around springtime. Glad to have you stick around fam...
>>40966 (observed) >Mt. St Helens Here lad. I’ve been to most of the mountains in Oregon and Washington; Mt Saint Helens definitely has a different energy. I believe Mt Shasta in Northern California is the next nearest node. >>41466 (observed) >>41323 Welcome lads. Ask any questions if you like.
>>41547 Amazing painting lad, did you draw it? Did you ever try dowsing?
Beastlad checking in. I don't typically phone post, so expect some spelling and grammar ical faggotry. Perhaps even reddit spacing. I'm going to probably spend some time away. Not sure if I'll come back. Probably will, since we're all here forever. I've been thinking about this for some time. I've been a gargantuan faggot, especially with my shit posting. Im a fool. I've been able to see it clearly for a while, and have wanted to make this post for a while, but never really did. I wrote of things that should not be written. Wrote of things I did not and do not understand as though I did. I know I was attempting to write from the heart, but the harm that can be, and likely has been done by it is well beyond my good intentions. I am a disgrace to my kind as a seeker of the dawn, and a failure as a man. I am weak, foolish, and blind. What little I have learned through experience has been very good to me, but it is not enough to be able to write of them as I have in good conscience. It takes a certain perspective to know what I am saying by these things, and the meaning between the lines. More so the causes for it. A poet like me, who is equally or more knowledge and perceptive would know. Would have been here. I know there are Masters watching me. Guiding me, and helping me. I have seen one, and seen their hands. I am such a fool. I was wrong. I know nothing. I can see it so very clearly. That although I thought I had made progress, and that I had gone far, I truthfully had not. I made some progress, but not as I had thought. And in my faggotry I have pushed them away. Again and again in circles always the same. They won't tolerate this forever. I would have abandoned me long ago. I can no longer remember Her face. And I am so weary. Sometimes I can still see the green stars. The silver-blue too. But it has been so long since I have seen them dance. Some part of me always felt compelled to write. Always a need to. But I don't know if I'll leave anymore lanterns on the rocks. I don't know that I'm in a position to. But I know that I am a massive faggot. I'll probably be back to spew shit again. Or if, perhaps I am commanded to do so by my Beloved, or a Master. Sieg Heil, Brothers! May We meet in the City of the Creasers, may We find the Oasis of Ice!
>>42807 Take care of yourself on the journey beastlad know your friends thoughts and prayers are with you we will keep the hearth until you return. Good luck this is not goodbye merely farewell we shall meet again.
the spring is returning, and as such, the owls are slowly returning from the other side of the creek. every time I physically see an owl, she either contacts me, or comes over within a couple of days. it is a strange phenomena to partake in. but this entire saga has been a strange saga, and I won't bore y'all with the long, and convoluted story. t. you know who >>42807 be easy, brother. see you again either here, or on the other side.
>>41991 No I haven’t tried dousing yet. Nor did I paint that. It was a Hyperborean portent I found on a road trip with a fren. A mural in a back ally we happened upon. >>43432 Glad you’re well lad. Lads, I know this personality has been a bit taboo for the lodge since 8chan because of schizolad. Upon seeing some awakened tweets of his, I’ve begun watching his videos and rather enjoy many of them. Their very informative, both on the occult and ancient history. He’s also clearly become sympathetic to the NSDAP and our history, and is overtly a race realist. I implore you lads with the time to check out his channel and see what interests you. Do take it with salt. He does ascribe to the theory that semites are Caucasians along with the Aryans; specifically the rift between the sons of Noah, Shem(semites) and Japheth(us).
Lads, I’m planning a Beltane ritual for a group. Besides the traditional dual bonfires and walking between them, what other specifics are involved?
I have come back after speaking to some on 9chan on Tor. I dont understand the astral despite being there a few times and so I stopped before something happens that causes some kind of imbalance or getting myself trapped. It was like a current of electric velvet which caressed my body from an invisible current that came from everywhere I have two books though I found that some may enjoy reading.
>>44211 Thank you for sharing
>/fascist/ appears >lads posters disappear
>>44681 >trying to start shit when /fascist/ users have zero problems with lads here (((Your))) tricks are so easy to see
>>44681 Lads have been posting much less for many months, long before /fascist/ appeared. Perhaps when coof shit gets sorted out thread will liven up again. Will keep the beacon lit til' then
>>44684 >reasonable response >>44683 >unreasonable response suspicions confirmed
It’s been...silent here. I hope all are well? I am preparing for the Solstice, any ritual suggestions? What are you all doing for the Summer Solstice? Blessings to all of you and your families.
>>46149 Greetings bond lads and druid bros. Didn't realize y'all were here. Had seen you on nano a ways back. Always enjoyed your threads. Just making the rounds.
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Alright lads, how is everyone? I think this might be my first post of the year here, glad the thread is still up. Seems pretty dead here like we've all gone into some kind of hibernation or something. Weird how group energy works even between people who've never met, in this realm at least. After Biden became President I decided I needed time away from all the blackpilling, Jan 6th made that an easier decision. I stopped following most of the Right on various social medias for safety's sake, not that it would have made a difference at that point. I know everyone says this but I really do believe my info has been processed by glowies at some point recently given some of the people I've had close contact with online and generally spilling my spaghetti all over the internet in other ways too. I'm still literally a nobody with no influence in the wider movement though so I guess I'll be ok...for now. Hope you lads are well. I've read the updates from some of you that have been posted. Be nice if we could all convene again at some point. I'm on Telegram now mostly and I'm thinking of getting a channel and chat group going there. I probably won't post solely Druid/pol/ stuff, but interesting stuff of all kinds, personal thoughts, aesthetics, books, music and whatever. Maybe even start a Druid themed radio station on Telegram in time, idk yet. I might never do it but let me know if that's interesting to you. t.Buxtonlad >>46439 Greetings lad
>>46445 Double post but actually forget I mentioned telegram, nest of vipers and retards just like everywhere else tbh. Just want comfy druid/pol/ back. Anyway, I'm reading "Heathen Gods in Old English Literature" by Richard North atm. It's pretty interesting so far, will update the thread with more detailed review when I'm done. >>46149 Did you end up doing anything for the solstice, lad?
I changed myself after mushroom trio in to something I did not wanted to be now I'm getting my life back on the track and recovering from this how do I can fully recover from this and back to my old self
>>46618 Here in NZ some friends and I did some magic mushrooms for the solstice. Good time to look within.
>>35213 >People in the west don't have history of communist purges. Akshually France's Revolution was the model for the Red Revolution. It got Marx all wet. Spirituality and nobility were destroyed. >>37755 > It's also why celibacy was required by the early church. >Even Jesus said it was more important to be celibate than to be married. If some of the real message was close to this, it certainly was for closenit esoteric circles, not for the plebes. Besides, even respectable esoteric schools would not discourage marriage and family. Overall I think the escapist formula are false spirituality, they are variations of the old theme of rejection of the world. There is no evidence whatsoever that those who rejected it ever managed to make it better or save other people. This turns them into deserters, not saviours. Unless you abide by a hardcore Gnostic school of thought, the surest way to measure the betterment of the world is to observe how the best of mankind lives on it. For sure today this real lite is in a rather poor state. So I would personally strongly argue against talks of salvation and release from the world, especially in the light of the fact of great minds sent into it to make it better for us. Salvation doctrines might literally be a whole huge trap.
Spent time in front of the vitz with me wife, wanted to go just let the mind go on drone mode yelling stupidly. The Danes played well but had no juice left into 60 mins really, their def was thick as a haystack and a bit boring. Wouldn't say goals were most impressive but the boys clearly gave much more for this than Olaf lel. As for the plebes, nobody seemed to give two shits about the virus at all, no masked faces.
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>>46787 I've had a fascination for hallucinogens for a while now but always been to scared to try because I'm afraid it might irreversibly turn me into mong. >>47030 Lots of houses on my street are flying the England flag. Lots of people getting together to watch the matches. It all sickens me ngl because they never fly the flag any other time. Also the whole kneeling thing is disgusting and if England win they will never stop doing it. If England win we'll never hear the end of how diversity won so I hope Italy wins. Although on the other hand FBPE mongs are probably seething rn. I won't be watching in any case. I need to think of something to do from 8pm onwards on Sunday so I don't have to listen to the neighbours screaming Tyron's name at the tv...
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Does anyone have any book recs to learn more about Pythagoras/Pythagoreanism and Orphism? Also anything about Dionysus.
>>47127 Italy's team is 100% White as far as I have checked. I don't even know how this miracle even happened. It's a shame that I would love to be pro bong but will go full pizza because of principles. fug Thankfully that nigger team known as France has been kicked out by the golden boys so at least that's that. I have to say, leaving aside the mystery balls, the White men in these teams (ours, Danes, Swiss, Belgium) really look like overmen.
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>>47208 Agree, pizza for the win.
https://odysee.com/@millennialwoes:4/Gram202127:8 Woes' new podcast format. He does these on telegram then uploads them to Odysee. I've only listened to this one so far. I think they're pretty comfy tbh. He is extremely blackpilled though. I kinda fluctuate I suppose but on the whole I'm more optimistic. Actually that might not be the best word but I guess I feel that our current trajectory cannot be sustained. I don't believe we're on the cusp of some kind of techno-totalitarian prison, try as our enemies might. Feels a lot more like everything is just falling apart
>>47484 How bad is it?
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>>47484 lol don't let some self-destructive fudgepacker blackpill you
>>48009 Lmao nooo oy vey goyim oy vey you must listen to some gay reprobate, whos so kosher they are allowed to rent venues and have negresses serving them coffee. Thats totally legit and grass roots, goy.
Oy, I have a question for you who refute monotheism How do you guys deal with the origin of everything? Before there was the universe, there was no medium of communication, without a medium how could several entities (or just causes) work towards achieving the feat of creation? There is one consequence we can all agree on, to which there must be one or several causes, we might call God(s), or actually in singular if the first paragraph is applied. Any idea about it or rebuttal would be appreciated, I've been thinking about this over and over for day, even in my dreams. Of course our human consciousness is not perfect and able to understand everything but we can speculate and infer about things.
>>48157 Monotheism is irrefutable. Even the ancient Aryans ranging from Plato, Plotinus, the sages of the Upanishads, etc. all posited a highest reality from which all else flowed, this was the One, or the Good, or Brahman, etc. The entire intellectual weight behind Abrahamic monotheism is derived from pagan speculations. The idea of this One from which all else flows, of course, is not incompatible with a plurality of gods, nor is a plurality of gods incompatible with God. Abrahamism has truly warped our view of reality.
>>48159 Monotheism is not irrefutable, it is not the truth, There may be an ultimate Divine Source or Uncaused Cause, but it is not the only god, therefore Monotheism is false.
>>48165 Unfortunately here we are confined with the bounds of Abrahamic terminology which very much obfuscates things. As I used the term ‘monotheism’ in my previous post, I meant in the sense of there being a single divine Source or Uncaused Cause (which can be potentially identified with a capital ‘G’ God—not Yahweh) much like you point out, but where the Abrahamic taint comes in is thinking that there is nothing below this. There are many gods, obviously. Christians label these all demons, but the cosmos is populated by many good spiritual beings identifiable with the gods of the pre-Christian European peoples. Strictly speaking, though it’s hard to comprehend at first, monotheism and polytheism are a false dichotomy. The God of monotheism is quite different from the gods of polytheism. One does not deny the reality of the other unless one is committed to Abrahamic ideas of God foreign to traditions which have accepted God and the gods, such as Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, philosophically-developed Greek religion, etc)
>>48166 True, which is why the term monotheism should be discarded not only as inaccurate, but completely worthless.
>>48167 Yeah you are right. Maybe it will be better to avoid such terms in the future. Many languages would even use completely different terms for the Source and the gods rather than using the same term for both, which only introduces confusion.
>>48167 A term is needed that describes a "One above all" instead of "The only one". I'm trying to coin something now.
>>48013 >>48171 Wow that's clearing some misconceptions I had seeing all the criticism toward abrahamic religions. To be honest I come from the (((Christian))) framework, in which I find profound wisdom and I always saw the pagan deities as things people can get inspired by, the same way Jesus can be seen as a model for his stoicism (Thor for his strength, Wayland for his abilities to repair things...) Would you agree? Do you pray to those deities the same way someone following an abrahamic creed would? How do you deal with the records in the Bible of YHWH beating other gods made out of stone and wood (such as with moses and the two magicians of the faraoh)? How would you describe your religious practices? >>48166 >>48167 >>48169 I never envisioned such ideas, I'll have to ponder about them.
>>48177 What do you think of idols also?
>>48177 Jesus is a poor model for stoicism, and as he is described in the entirely fictional, historically, and anthropologically groundless bible(most of which was written in the second and third and even as late as the fifth century) he is quite unstoic. One would do better to hold up Marcus Aurelius as a model for that, as he was not only real but held nothing but contempt for what christians existed in his day. No, I do not pray like an Abrahamist would. Our gods do not ask for obedience orus to prostrate ourselves before them, they ask that we stand fight and show them we deserve their care, not for us to kneel and submit before earthly authority that claims to be following their dictates. I don't deal with false stories of YHWH destroying anything, let alone other gods the entire fiction is made up to put the jewish people under the thumb of their priests as they remain even today, as do Christians, like the spiritually and sometimes actually, jewish fools they are. >>48178 What do Idols have to do with anything? They are nothing more a representation of whatever deity made by a man, nothing inherently wrong with it.
>>48178 >>48177 Abrahamists fundamentally misunderstand what an idol is. An idol is not literally a god like they misunderstand. An idol is just a representation or a symbol that serves to connect the worshiper with spiritual realities beyond them. This is why it is always very silly when we here of dumb Abrahamists smashing idols or images of gods and yelling stuff like 'IF YOUR GOD IS REAL WHY ISN'T HE DEFENDING HIMSELF??'. Just think of ancestor veneration that many Asian peoples do. They set up photographs of their ancestors on an altar and leave incense or offer prayers and food before them. Do they think that the photo is literally their ancestor? No, of course not. This is not to say that they aren't actually propitiating something real though, or that what they are doing is just empty ritual. Same with images of the gods. > I always saw the pagan deities as things people can get inspired by Definitely, there are lots of things to be inspired by in these stories. It is also worth understanding that philosophically educated Romans and Greeks understood the so-called myths as having five possible layers of interpretation, rather than taking the brainlet literal approach every single time (though this isn't to deny that there are literal aspects to some of this - the gods are real). This can be seen in this short Neoplatonist work: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Sallust_On_the_Gods_and_the_World/Sallust_on_the_Gods_and_the_World >Do you pray to those deities the same way someone following an abrahamic creed would? Not really, I only pray to the One. This is my main object of meditation as well. This shouldn't be taken as a denial of the gods, of course. I understand them more as being a hierarchy of immensely powerful spiritual beings, many of which have different elemental powers and embody more subtle aspects of our reality. I really need to learn how to sacrifice to them though in the near future. I neglect them a bit too much. I'd also like to start honoring my ancestors more. I definitely plan to introduce this into the life of any future children that I have, so that they are respectful towards their forefathers and feel like they are rooted in something. >How would you describe your religious practices? Meditation, prayer, reading and learning about Aryan religions.
>>48179 I beg to disagree, Jesus as described in the gospels is the embodiment of stoicism. He isn't affected the slightest by his fate and instead of worrying or trying to escape it, which would have made him be a hypocrite, he spreads based teachings and parables. At least that's my reading of the gospels. I feel what you mean with the stories of the old testament, it always sounded odd to me too, I really don't know what to make of it because for most christians this is a package, to see jesus as an example is to accept as him being the personification of God, the saviour of mankind and the fulfilment of a bunch of prophecies. And sometimes they even expect the acceptance of the legitimacy of this or that institution such as the catholic church. Those parables in the evangelion are really inspiring to me though, being the salt of the world and not conforming being a light to the world which is inspiring by example and virtue, not trying to show off to others with virtue signaling about your religious practices such as fasting or praying but instead keeping it to yourself, not having any kind of division with your brethern or neighbours (because being divided from them is in the end making you prey for the system), discouraging divorce which is very prevalent in our world, not taking revenge and escalating conflicts when the harm is already done... As to idols, >>48186 cleared my mind about them. To some degree as, in the real world, we often see these idols used as a form of manipulation by some elite that live off of the sacrifices given to the idols. >>48186 Thanks for the food for thought, I'll read this essay on the gods. And you changed my perception of idols. To be honest, I always am kind of afraid of praying to an entity other than the creator, because what I take from the abrahamic discourse is that there is a being that wants to be worshipped by humans, showing false miracles to impress them. And when I see current day boudhists and the like, or other animists, it really feels like that. I'm surprised of those practices, reading this thread I was expecting some weird occult traditions instead, that seems based indeed
>>48190 >Jesus I believe that Jesus existed and was basically a sage. I have no issues with him really. Though there may be glimpses of the real Jesus in the Gospels, I cannot help but think that there was a massive distortion in his character due to the meddling of the (((Church))) and the suppression of all sects deemed to be heretical, namely Gnostic schools which emphasized having a directly, unmediated experience of the divine, and realizing that the truth was within (a sentiment that one can find in the gnostic gospels, in the Upanishads, and in many Greek texts) >Thanks for the food for thought, I'll read this essay on the gods. And you changed my perception of idols. Glad to help, anon. >To be honest, I always am kind of afraid of praying to an entity other than the creator, because what I take from the abrahamic discourse is that there is a being that wants to be worshipped by humans, showing false miracles to impress them. And when I see current day boudhists and the like, or other animists, it really feels like that. Yeah, miracles aren't necessarily the sign of a good being. A lot of them can be explained through the use of mystic powers of various kinds. Mystic powers can be cultivated by humans and are naturally possessed by all sorts of spiritual beings such as gods, demons, ghosts, etc. A healthy skepticism is important. One has to judge them by their fruits (lol). We can see with Yahweh that he performs all sorts of miracles and also demands foreskins and submission to calm his jealously quite often. This is a suspicious combination in my mind. With current day Buddhists in the West, there probably aren't many miracles going on, honestly since they reduce the tradition down to rationalistic materialism and strip away any 'non-scientific' or metaphysical aspects of Buddhism away (google 'JewBu' for a real redpill). The real miracles and stuff happen in places like Tibet, at least historically. Buddhists are right when it comes to some very basic aspects of their religion but they go retarded in a lot of other areas. I don't really pray to anything but the creator either though for similar reasons. It might be a case of being a bit overly cautious on my part. It is definitely not out of hatred or rejection of other good beings though. You should read the Bhagavad Gita though. I think you'd find it very interesting.
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>>48191 I see, I can even see some of those gnostic things you mentioned in the "official" gospels. >>truth is whithin "nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”" Luke 17:21 >>judge them by their fruits "By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?" Mat 7:16 There has definitly been some meddling indeed as we can see with the silencing of the arians at the time of constantine, who dared to say that Jesus wasn't the God creator but a man. If you ask me I'd think it's mostly censorship of disagreeing writings but I can understand why to some it might also be with direct corruption. I really like this video by a french guy about the council of Nicea and Constantine turning the early christians in the church we know today, adding many traditions and making the followers of it just sheeple by stopping all debate whithin this community. https://ytprivate.com/watch?v=fhJmVwlX9JY >> foreskin and jealous god I understand your skepticism with the god of the hebrews more now, thanks! >> (((Materialistic))) buddhists Wasn't expecting to find a thread to pull here but with the new age things I guess it's not surprising, when there is money to be made you can always expect certain demographics I'm reading the Sallust On the Gods and the World but I'll download the other and read it once I'm finished with this text and some personal readings Cheers
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>>48192 >"nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”" Luke 17:21 Yup. This verse is a key piece of evidence in my mind of true sayings that leak in here and there in the Gospels. Some parallels in other traditions: Famous Greek maxim >"Know thyself." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself Katha Upanishad 2.12' >The wise, who by means of the highest meditation on the Self knows the Ancient One, difficult to perceive, seated in the innermost recess, hidden in the cave of the heart, dwelling in the depth of inner being, (he who knows that One) as God, is liberated from the fetters of joy and sorrow. http://www.yoga-age.com/upanishads/katha.html Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upanishad 4.4.22 >"Verily, he is the great, unborn Self, who is this [person] consisting of knowledge among the senses. In the space within the heart lies the ruler of all, the lord of all, the king of all." >I really like this video by a french guy about the council of Nicea and Constantine turning the early christians in the church we know today, adding many traditions and making the followers of it just sheeple by stopping all debate whithin this community. I'll be sure to check it out here soon, thanks anon >I understand your skepticism with the god of the hebrews more now, thanks! Be sure to look over pic related too for some more interesting info. >with the new age things I guess it's not surprising, when there is money to be made you can always expect certain demographics Yes, Jews are behind a lot of the fake pagans like Wiccans and other New Agers, who are founded on a rejection of all traditions, feel-good fake spirituality, consumerism and individualism. A lot of Eastern traditions have been stripped down of everything of value and they have attempted to co-opt them for control purposes. See the second pic for a good example - AmaZen kek
>>38806 >This idea is much akin to what Evola espoused, I don't much like Evola, he was nothing but a reactionary. Not in his early writings, which were brutal af. His reactionarism back then was going so far back on the edge of the cycle that it in fact met with the apogee of what we would be aiming for as the end goal of the great war. Although he somewhat rearranged his later views, he never lost sight of the sheer decadence of the current era and its need to be put to an end for a better and glorious future. Overall he has been very anti-Christian. >>38808 >Also, this is Boer anon again. I can't help my anti-Anglo sentiment, my connection to my ancestors is incredibly strong and my desire for retribution has not been satiated. Having said that, even though I hate England, I have met good English people who have helped me in the past, and while most English were very disappointing, I cannot deny that the same could be said of most of any people. It's all about the elite, the overall people is submissive and need a great patriarch every once in a while. Even the Germans, without Hitler, might have turned into a despicable people if manipulated by evil minds. >Vedas I warn you South anon, any religious text can be twisted. The Vedas know three main contemporary schools of thought and they all hinge a lot on the typical anti-life renunciation, whereas the pure original Vedic content had much less of this if not at all. So before you engage into more opposition between Vedic and Avesta materials, be assured that Veda studies are not exempt from dangerous pitfalls! I have personally looked into Armanism but I didn't get the impression they were going anywhere. >I believe Zoroastrianism to be intricately linked to Judaism, as a form of Proto-Judaism akin to the Hyksos Shepard kings of Egypt Those who invaded and won without violence. One could read that as them buying their way into Egypt? A link for curiosity's sake; https://www.mayimachronim.com/did-the-jews-build-the-pyramids/ Spoiler don't worry, the article states clearly that nope, the wandering Israelites didn't build the magnificent pyramids, at worst perhaps only the cheap knock offs at a time when pyramids themselves were past their hey day. >it is even has a holy trinity Not that a Trinity is spiritually unsound. There's even one to be found in the Eddas. >>38813 >As for the association of the Aesir with Abrahamic entities and archetypes, I think there is certainly a case to be made, which unsurprisingly upsets the attitudes of many of us. Of course, it is not so simplistic as directly equating Yahweh or some spirit with Odin, for example, but a broad potential correlation is there. Regardless, this is certainly a controversial area worthy of further study. Maybe there would not be so much controversy if we acknowledged the strong likeliness that the Jews took as theirs many Aryan teachings. Many faggots online whine about the ruthlessness of Deuteronomy but it's nothing more than a blueprint for virile conquest and domination. >Just an interesting point, I do recall the Eddic legends surrounding 'King Heidrek', who, after decrying Odin as a contemptible monster and threatening to slay the god with his legendary weapon, 'Tyrfing', is then cursed by Odin to die by the hands of lowly thralls, before cowardly fleeing before the heroic king. Leaving the problem of Tyrfing aside, using sorcery and then dodging his way out is perhaps too LHP for you. >Likewise, there are of course traditional legends which ascribe the lineage of the Norse with the Vanir, not the Aesir. Likewise, the Germans (aka, the Goths of legend), claim lineage from the Jotunn, the giants of myth, perhaps the very same giants (archetype) so demonized in the bible. Is it hard to accept that stories can change though? The Aesir produced offspring from some unions with giants, whereas both Aesir and Vanir made a truce and created a new civilization. The Aesir had the solar strength, the Vanir, perhaps more into the wood-life, had a feminine knack for magic, which turned out to be of interest to Odin, who learned a lot from women. Which made him use highly opposite types of strategies depending on the challenges he faced. The giants are not demonized either, some are bad or stupid, others are good and wise. >Zoroastrianism and Jews The time of the teachings of Zoroaster might precede the tribulations of Jews in the nearby region by many centuries.
>>48533 >the typical anti-life renunciation, whereas the pure original Vedic content had much less of this if not at all. <what are the Upanishads
>>39090 We should not stretch this beyond a wise remembrance of facts, but criticism is merited. Post-Cromwell England turned out to be a good golem to the yids for centuries. We have to learn from this and see how the rats operate. I tell you, it's not magic, they just always enter the palace with loads of jewels and gold and go straight for the closest and foulest fucker ready to betray his people for power and prestige. It only takes one man of relative political clout to get the ball rolling as yids don't waste time with small fish. >>39196 >With regards to the Aesir, I personally think that this perception of them originates from a Christian mentality, rather than a clear understanding of what myths really portray. For example if we look at the tale of Odin, Tyr, and Fenrir, where Tyr is injured, weakened, and replaced as the high god, this clearly teaches you a lesson about honour. >Honour is of great importance to our ancestors, and obviously has a place in Aryan culture, a very important place. But one who is limited by honour makes a bad ruler, because honour could cost your tribe their existence where deceit and cunning could save it, why then choose honour? That is what I think this kind of fiction pertains to. I personally think the myths were multifaceted in the sense that they were intended not only to tell people about their gods, but were also intended to pass on lessons learned from one generation to another. Maybe I'm wrong, but personally looking at it from this perspective has made thing more clear to me, and seem to have a less Christian undercurrent its thought. NS Germany had plenty of that honour and now we're all wailing, wishing on how they should have been much more cunning and devious to win against our enemy. I think the honour thing is good for the propaganda towards the masses, but we all know that we need to get dirty and go some places most people wouldn't if we need to win where it matters. >>39197 >it is speculated that the Phoenicians were the ones supplying ships for the "Sea Peoples", some of whom were mercenaries and some of whom were Jewish tribes, one even called the "Shekelesh", and these Sea Peoples were attested to have practiced circumcision, more fanatically than others It gives a whole new tint to Plato's tale of Athens' resistance against these Sea People, although it's completely fucked up chronologically wise. >The Hyksos though were absolutely a branch of proto-kikes, along with the group who left Vedic parts of India to subvert the early Persians and establish Zoroastrianism. If you can ignore the skin colour for a moment, some Dravidians really have some of the typical phenotypical traits ascribed to Jews. Let's not kid ourselves though, the Semites are more than likely a racial fudge, having appeared in a region that's been at the crossroads or major trade paths for uncounted ages. Merchants and nobles must have been intermarrying, offering their daughters, etc. >>39308 >Saga of Hergor and Heithrek Do not ignore the possibility of the author being fond of the Old Testament and having simply swapped names. So if written by a Christian of some shade, then shall we be surprised of this person depicting Odin in this less than laudable way? >As for the association of European royal houses with the Hebrew traditions in general, many have peddled this narrative, and not just European royals, but entire peoples, from the Pashtuns of Afghanistan, to the Black Israelites of America. I view it as a simple method of empowerment and validation with little historicity involved. Whether it be the Merovingian-Frankish royalty claiming 'divine descent from David', It was actually far more popular in those times to claim a link to Prias. But I remember reading some scholar who chastised the Trojans for being scoundrels, mercenaries of a cosmopolitan society. >>39330 > I've also worked with Germanic spirits, and from my personal gnosis there is no link between Abrahamic spirits and Germanic spirits. What do you mean by Germanic spirits? >I believe there's an interesting link between Buddhism and the kikes. A subject worthy of study. The Jews have certainly not wasted time recycling Buddhism into, again, an even more debased form of the older one, in a way extremely similar to how they have "corrupted" Christianity even more around the 50-60s in Italy and have brought it to be so globohomo friendly now. Anyway, I do find Buddhism unnerving so I'm willing to find more information about that noble warrior Gautama. Wonders, will it turn out that he was some kind of hippie, or some clueless spoiled child who ended writing shit under the influence of some nose like Engels?
>>43618 >Sepehr Is he another case of "dear fellow white people"? He seemed very apologetic of the Ashkenazim, their IQ, their redheads, etc. >>47132 You might get lucky in... mm, where's the /pdf/ again? >>48009 >he putt puffs It never stops. Is there such a thing as jadepilled? I make that shit up to sooth my ill feelings. >>48157 >Before there was the universe, there was no medium of communication, without a medium how could several entities (or just causes) work towards achieving the feat of creation? Telegram willed itself into existence. >>48159 Deists see the source as fairly neutral. Then, Yahweh =/= that source. Monotheism stands with one god at every and any time, whereas polytheisms can have a time when there is one such entity but then for the sake of practicality it spawns many others, more specialized and with new abilities since, let's be honest, usually the primordial one is barely more than some sea/soup that has just one big generative principle going for it but is rather boring beyond that. >>48171 >A term is needed that describes a "One above all" *cough* Alu-Vater *cough* >>48177 >How do you deal with the records in the Bible of YHWH beating other gods made out of stone and wood (such as with moses and the two magicians of the faraoh)? Yahweh, didn't he order his followers to deny the other gods first? Lo, we know he had a spouse in primeval times, and some of his names are actually written under a plural form. Abrahamism is just some self-loathing ex-pagan schizophrenia. >>48190 >Those parables in the evangelion are really inspiring to me though, being the salt of the world and not conforming being a light to the world which is inspiring by example and virtue, not trying to show off to others with virtue signaling about your religious practices such as fasting or praying but instead keeping it to yourself, not having any kind of division with your brethern or neighbours (because being divided from them is in the end making you prey for the system), discouraging divorce which is very prevalent in our world, not taking revenge and escalating conflicts when the harm is already done... Good thing we remember that part about Jewsus coming next Thursday to rend families, otherwise this solid shilling might have almost convinced me that I missed out on something huge and oily. >>48191 >I have no issues with him really. How come? There's enough material attributed to him in the Bible to have major issues with the bloke. Then if the defense is to say the Bible is a doctored book, then what are you working with? Jesus the wandering Buddhist? The life-renouncer? The eternal incel? >also demands foreskins and mandatory psycho blowjobs lest he burns the world. Now imagine his Hall of Foreskins. Muh sweet collection. >>48192 >Jesus wasn't the God creator but a man. Islam says hi. :-) >>48194 Jews follow a book that gives them the how-to to ethnoglobe. >They evil. Nope, the real problem is how this bunch of urban dwellers cannot behave as true Aryan genociders described in the Torah so they must use shekels to get what they want. >Upanifads >if you find the one, no more emotions you win And that it why shilling for anything but very early Vedic material is bad. (Ex?-)Christians pushing for this is tiring and hardly acceptable here imho. Not that I don't want this place to be welcoming but we must uphold certain values. Ahem >>48534 The Ups' are not that "early", check your chronology lad.
>>48538 Upanishads are attached to the Vedas and constitute integral parts. Top kek at you shilling for the mainstream, Jew-created chronology when a proper understanding of Aryan history and legends completely undermines their Middle Eastern and Jew-centric linear view of history that only began a few millennia ago. If you had studied these things you’d be extremely aware that allegedly secular academics push the dates for Abrahamic texts back as early as possible while making everything nom-Abrahamic late and saying that it is all mythological. Wake up. >>if you find the one, no more emotions you win >And that it why shilling for anything but very early Vedic material is bad. <This is bad because it’s bad, okay??? Deep
>>48539 For some odd reason, you find yourself including in a quotation the reason of my rejecting the source of an absurd tenet that has definitely plagued a great many later faiths, yet you do not observe it. In there you would find the reality of why the privilege of life depends on the experience of emotions, not the shunning thereof as a makeshift for access to wisdom, because only which is without life any longer shall not be aroused by either sides of passion. Imagine arguing that after God/Nature/UniversalMind/AlFather made us imbued with such a broad and rich range of beautiful emotions, that the secret key to the deeper understanding of life would actually be to dispose of them all because they be traps and sheeyet. Yeaah, that makes absolute sense! >Top kek at you shilling for the mainstream, Jew-created chronology when a proper understanding of Aryan history and legends completely undermines their Middle Eastern and Jew-centric linear view of history that only began a few millennia ago. <your jew mind can't conceive of cycles and muh book is eternal Dating the Upanishads on the generous side of the spoon because it contains ancient elements is just as sound as claiming the New Testament is much older than thought due to its innumerable references to the Old Testament.
>>48552 I don't think you understand that the Upanishads are literally part of the Vedas, retard. The Vedas are essentially worthless without the Upanishads, it's just hymn after hymn to devas and extolling how great they are. The material of infinite value comes from the Upanishads. This is why it's called Vedanta - the end / goal of the Vedas, or to put it even more literally the end / goal of 'knowledge. Your entire rejection of the Upanishads is based on 'muh feels' and nothing else, showing that you view Aryan wisdom as nothing more than a tool and a guise to wear for your political views. Not to mention that this idea of finding 'the one, no more emotions you win' isn't even accurate. Don't listen to New Age hippies for your information on Aryan wisdom.
>>48554 >I don't think you understand that the Upanishads are literally part of the Vedas, retard. I spoke of "early Vedic material" in opposition to later material such as the Ups, I didn't say they were not Vedic. And you cannot have a pure and pro-White collection of texts written by people who, surrounded with pooskins, had to create an all encompassing system for every body. You couldn't write something like "well your soul, if we can call it that dear pajeet, ranks as high as your skin's pigmentation, so suck it up subhuman and be my bitch for the next three thousand years". Even the Jews don't dare go there so blatantly. The later authors already were under the pressure to universalize their beliefs a notch lest they'd have an uprising every fifty years on their hands. Then the Aryan White Gods were progressively phased out exactly because of this racial issue, so unsurprisingly a typical Asian mindset slithered into the chapters and soon enough, being a primeval radical Jainist would be the single valid way to salvation. >Your entire rejection of the Upanishads is based on 'muh feels' and nothing else Precisely, because it's the same stupid equation: <no emotions = no attachments = leveling up Literally claiming that being like a robot, a rock, a zombie with peak anhedonia, or someone who suffers from a mental disorder due to all sorts of traumatic reasons, would be an acceptable, and above all the one and only sacred path to true spiritual awakening, to get closer to the Absolute, is just that much demented. But perhaps being like one of those inbred chinks who skin animals alive may be good enough after all?
>>48630 >And you cannot have a pure and pro-White collection of texts written by people who, surrounded with pooskins, had to create an all encompassing system for every body Sure you can. Truth is universal by nature. The religion of truth would, necessarily, provide niches and places for all beings in the great hierarchy of nature, so that each race can have its place, and men and women can interact harmoniously. This is essentially the idea of the Great Chain of Being. > You couldn't write something like "well your soul, if we can call it that dear pajeet, ranks as high as your skin's pigmentation, so suck it up subhuman and be my bitch for the next three thousand years". Makes sense to me. If one accepts the idea of a hierarchically organized Chain of Being, with lower and higher species, and there is a gradual evolution in consciousness for beings according to their past actions and the quality of their soul, it only makes sense that the quality of the internal will reflect the external. It is like if one's soul is by nature pure gold, but while embodied it is polluted by more or less non-gold dross that obscures and makes it impure. Plato spoke of very similar things in Phaedo. > Then the Aryan White Gods were progressively phased out exactly because of this racial issue Not true. They're all over 'later' texts (Puranas, Ramayana, Mahabharata, etc) and appear constantly >being a primeval radical Jainist would be the single valid way to salvation. Jains are a tiny religion with like a million followers, no one takes ahimsa that far, and even then it is only the monks, of which there are less than five thousand. >Literally claiming that being like a robot, a rock, a zombie with peak anhedonia, or someone who suffers from a mental disorder due to all sorts of traumatic reasons, would be an acceptable, and above all the one and only sacred path to true spiritual awakening, to get closer to the Absolute, is just that much demented. It honestly seems like you just don't understand enlightenment. To put it in the most materialistic way possible, it's about reaching a state of tranquility, to have an unperturbed mind, to have looked into the true nature of reality and achieved peace. One controls their emotions, one controls their desires - no one has ever claimed that these are eradicated and has become a robot. It often appears like a great overflowing of compassion, good-will, serenity and empathetic joy are the results of those who have reached high spiritual states. This does not sound robotic or anhedonic to me. This is essentially the same system as both Plotinus, Plato and Orphics, so it can't even be rejected as non-European even if one hates Aryan philosophy from India.
>>48634 >each race can have its place It's not possible. Limited resources and lands means conquering. And conquering with White people means merging with the original timeline of White reigning supreme over the world. That timeline as been away from people since compassion was given to shitskins.
>>48634 >Sure you can. Truth is universal by nature. The religion of truth would, necessarily, provide niches and places for all beings in the great hierarchy of nature Has never worked and never will. Besides, why waste time on including shitskins in your religion? One of the main rules of the White religion is WE DON'T SHARE OUR GODS. What you can do however is conquer them, kill tons of them and for the residual mass, force them into a system made only for them where it says Whites top them all and if shitskins want to know bliss, they must behave in a noble way so one day they'll be Whites too. Oh wait, that's what the Indian castes were all about and we know how this went. So we're back to "fuck the whole of it." Besides, think of this, why would you even want to give non-Whites spiritual tools so they can somehow have access to the same spiritual resources you're supposed to hoard for Whites only? Who said we had to share at all? Again, fuck them all. >so that each race can have its place, and men and women can interact harmoniously. The point of segregation, including the territorial one, is that we don't interact with them; we let shitskins grovel in their own bs religions and customs if it keeps them happy and docile. Period. >Plato spoke of very similar things in Phaedo. I hardly doubt Plato gave a shit about elevating niggers. >Not true. They're all over 'later' texts (Puranas, Ramayana, Mahabharata, etc) and appear constantly Only in name, not in substance. And where the fuck is Indra gone? >Jains are a tiny religion with like a million followers, no one takes ahimsa that far And yet that is the pure logical conclusion of it. Moderates are halfwits who are lazy and don't bother with the true implications of their religious books. >It honestly seems like you just don't understand enlightenment. To put it in the most materialistic way possible, it's about reaching a state of tranquility, to have an unperturbed mind, to have looked into the true nature of reality and achieved peace. <becoming incapable of solving a Captcha is the only way out You are just rewording the principle with different coating. See, when increasing my spiritual knowledge and thus power, I get excited, I get pleasure, but it is also painful at times. Never once emotions appeared as barriers to so called enlightenment. What you're describing does not even pertain to the laws of all and everything, since everything vibrates and simply put, if you're not going up, then you're going down. No joy, no sorrow, that is going nowhere, it's reducing the vibration to nothing, it's becoming nothing and nullifying your own soul. All this bullshit is completely contradicted by the Nordic (Thulean or Hyperborean) process of how Odinn obtained his knowledge of the secrets. Life shows you that pain is the sign of growth. Now, nobody denied that studying in a quiet environment was useless. But study is a thirst, you try to quench a suffering caused by ignorance, and doing so brings you joy, so joy calls for more joy as you grasp more of the Light.
>>48765 >Has never worked and never will. Besides, why waste time on including shitskins in your religion? One of the main rules of the White religion is WE DON'T SHARE OUR GODS. It works, because it's the truth. Truth is one. 2+2=4 no matter where one lives in the world, or regardless whether it is a White or a non-White doing the counting. If you believe that the gods and other spiritual entities are in any sense true, some of them by necessity will have a universal scope. That doesn't mean you racemix with this group, but there may be similarities in practices and approaches seen in their unique traditions. That doesn't mean the traditions are interchangeable either, they have their ancestors, we have our ancestors, some of our gods are unique to our people, some to theirs, and some are in common, even if we use different names for them, or have different stories for them. There are different types of deities, some are localized, some have universal scope, and some are associated with various sorts of atmospheric phenomena. Among the Aryan peoples we see the most similarities, but even in distantly related cultures we can see similarities, and the reason for this is that they are living in the same world, interacting with some of the same entities, etc. This is why the Greeks and Romans were see their own pantheons reflected to an extent in that of other cultures. This is a well known fact. They didn't go and give up their religion and negate themselves though, they saw it, and stuck with their traditional ways. >I hardly doubt Plato gave a shit about elevating niggers. Never said he did. >Only in name, not in substance. You clearly haven't read them. >And where the fuck is Indra gone? He's still in the texts as the king of the gods (devas). He never stops being the king of the gods. >And yet that is the pure logical conclusion of it. Moderates are halfwits who are lazy and don't bother with the true implications of their religious books. It's the logical conclusion of it if you don't have other religious doctrines which counteract the effects of karma. Jainism is completely individual-focused. There's no escaping samsara outside of one's own efforts. It's a bit easier in the Vedic religion (but by no means easy), as there are elements of divine grace. Vedic religion has never supported radical ahimsa / non-violence. That's why the Bhagavad Gita is literally a story about God convicing a man to go slaughter members of his own family on the battlefield, saying that he will obtain kingdoms and heavenly realms if he is successful. >becoming incapable of solving a Captcha is the only way out >You are just rewording the principle with different coating. No clue what you are talking about. >See, when increasing my spiritual knowledge and thus power, I get excited, I get pleasure, but it is also painful at times. Never once emotions appeared as barriers to so called enlightenment. All emotions are not created equal. I'm sure you would agree that women are overly emotional and devoid of rational thought in many instances. This is an example of negative emotions and a lack of self-control. Again, your nonsense about destroying all emotions just isn't supported in these texts, European, Indian or otherwise. >All this bullshit is completely contradicted by the Nordic (Thulean or Hyperborean) process of how Odinn obtained his knowledge of the secrets. Life shows you that pain is the sign of growth. Yes, Odin engaged in difficult ascetic practices to obtain knowledge. This doesn't contradict any of this in the slightest.
>>46785 You can't anon. You can't go back once you've changed.
>>48767 You're such a dumbass. The only reason why non-whites are still alive is because of "mercy and compassion" from White people. Plus, giving shitskins their inventions for use. Without shitskins, life on Earth would be fucking amazing. Why the FUCK do people like you exist in these boards? Don't you get it by now? MANIFEST DESTINY, NIGGER. THE EARTH WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE WHITE.
>>48962 >no arguments >no philosophy >no evidence from Aryan scriptures Opinion discarded
>>48630 >You couldn't write something like "well your soul, if we can call it that dear pajeet, ranks as high as your skin's pigmentation, so suck it up subhuman and be my bitch for the next three thousand years". Your point being? I'm a bit lost. I mean if Aryans wrote something like that, it would've made more sense.
>>48963 >muh intellectualism Hey four eyes no one cares about texts of this and that. For education it may work but the more important thing is DO. Does a piece of text protects shitskins from being eradicated lmao?
>>48965 Action is always vital. But to act, first we must know. Action is the completion of knowledge. The wisdom of the ancient Aryans is a guide for the present as it was in the past.
>>48966 Ok and how was what I was saying about shitskins earlier a poorly made comment. "Shitskins bad" is the fucking truth. (Not ignoring the JQ but many forget that jews aren't the only enemy)
>>48969 Don't know what comment you're referring to in particular. Non-Whites are inferior breeds of humans. They need to be kept out of White countries and kept from interbreeding with us. Many will have to be removed by force, most likely. I don't think they are inherently 'bad'. Are cockroaches and rats infesting someone's house evil? No. But does one want them in their home? No, you remove them anyway, because they are a hindrance to the larger ethnic nation and internal stability.
>>48767 Anon's post, retitled <From Soma to Prozac >It works, because it's the truth. Truth is one. 2+2=4 no matter where one lives in the world, or regardless whether it is a White or a non-White doing the counting. If you believe that the gods and other spiritual entities are in any sense true, some of them by necessity will have a universal scope. That doesn't mean you racemix with this group, but there may be similarities in practices and approaches seen in their unique traditions. That doesn't mean the traditions are interchangeable either, they have their ancestors, we have our ancestors, some of our gods are unique to our people, some to theirs, and some are in common, even if we use different names for them, or have different stories for them. There are different types of deities, some are localized, some have universal scope, and some are associated with various sorts of atmospheric phenomena. Among the Aryan peoples we see the most similarities, but even in distantly related cultures we can see similarities, and the reason for this is that they are living in the same world, interacting with some of the same entities, etc. This is why the Greeks and Romans were see their own pantheons reflected to an extent in that of other cultures. This is a well known fact. They didn't go and give up their religion and negate themselves though, they saw it, and stuck with their traditional ways. - Yesterday you shared your gods. - Today strangers pray next to you at the shrine. - Tomorrow your daughter is fucked by a pajeet or gook. Again, we don't share our gods/spirits. Because that's the Truth. And the Truth has proven that segregation must be applied at all levels of mind and society. >Never said he did. Then if he only acknowledged the hierarchy of souls than that's all we need to know and this would in no way condone the inclusion of strangers into our White cults. >You clearly haven't read them. >He's still in the texts as the king of the gods (devas). He never stops being the king of the gods. You are proving my point, as expected. In later texts he's downmoded to overlord and sort of protector of colored people when he started as exterminator of them because of erroneous epidermic hue that filled him with rage. And you dare say to me they're still the same gods. Who are you kidding? >Jainism is completely individual-focused. Buddhism too. Gautama is praised because he maxed out solo and didn't do it for the others. >saying that he will obtain kingdoms and heavenly realms if he is successful. To be technically pedant, it's kingdoms or heavenly realms. >>becoming incapable of solving a Captcha is the only way out >>You are just rewording the principle with different coating. >No clue what you are talking about. Do you know the purpose of Captchas? They're meant for humans to prove they are not robots. >All emotions are not created equal. Made up claim. I haven't seen an ounce of truth to this. In fact it goes against logic and proper universal order because opposites need to be at the exact same distance from the center they share otherwise the entire spectrum they constrain would be at perpetual imbalance, yet all opposites at such a metaphysical level must by design be of equal absolute values but opposed in relative value. >Yes, Odin engaged in difficult ascetic practices to obtain knowledge. This doesn't contradict any of this in the slightest. Yes it does if you cared to read the texts. He never refrained from exposing himself to joy or sorrow, pain or pleasure. He embraced life to extract the most out of it. The whole of the Eddas is definitely pro-life, pro-emotions. Our greater range of emotions is what makes us human. Being an over(hu)man would obviously not entail depleting oneself from this wealth. Doing so is regressive, you go even below the realm of animals, perhaps even below that of plants if one day it's proven they have emotions too in some very leafy way. For sure, a stone fits the bill admirably well. Stone, sand, dust, same shit. Buddhism's opener could literally start as "from dust to dust, therefore I shall push out of my one self that very breath that made me human in the first place." It most interesting how in minute parts of Tibet and India (the latter with remarkable irony) and in greater parts Japan and deep inside the Ahnenerbe, the criticism against Buddhism was perfectly nailed, yet you fail to get it and see how we find it too in later Vedic texts. The corruption had settled in.
>>48963 You know, if those "Aryan scriptures" are a repository for racial cuckoldry so we can share the same religion with shitskins, even if it includes a hierarchy, I think we will gladly pass. Most of those texts come from Asia and we only need pay but a cursory look at these places to see how much good these holy texts did the Whites. Answer: none. The proto-pajeet shilling is both tiring and extremely suspicious. You're obviously peddling this inclusive creed because you're either non-White yourself or have someone near you, perhaps right next to you under your sheets, who's not White either. >>48964 >Your point being? I'm a bit lost. I mean if Aryans wrote something like that, it would've made more sense. Even if they did, it would have nonetheless be inclusive of non-Aryans. Sooner or later, even if it would thousands of years, the fact that such a rule would exist to accommodate for the non-Whites living next to Whites would always degenerate into more lax regulations. The simple fact that in India, Vedic material degenerated on the racial front proves that even subdued shitskins who lived in greater numbers and next to Whites, and who probably were already shitting in the middle of the streets, still got the last word. Now, if non-Whites had been a real minority, then they should have been totally expelled (or killed) as it would have been the easiest and smartest thing to do. This is why we're told that we shall share neither our gods, women nor our lands with non-Whites. Period. And so we don't even need to leave a sweet spot for non-Whites in our creeds. As a matter of fact Jews have none of that shit in their own religious texts and it has been their strength for all that time despite not even having their own lands for nearly two thousand years.
>>49012 >>48964 (rewritten) >Your point being? I'm a bit lost. I mean if Aryans wrote something like that, it would've made more sense. Even if they did, it would have nonetheless been inclusive of non-Aryans. Sooner or later, even if it would mean thousands of years, the fact that such a rule would exist to accommodate for the non-Whites living next to Whites would always degenerate into more lax regulations. At some point the upper class/caste would have had a simile of BLM on their hands, all with perhaps browned kshatriyas too. Which would have needed to be quelled in rivers of blood until the next demographically unfavorable uprising. The Aryans softened and chose the easier peaceful way despite their initial genocidal methods. The simple fact that in India, Vedic material degenerated on the racial front proves that even subdued shitskins who lived in greater numbers and next to Whites, and who probably were already shitting in the middle of the streets, still got the last word. Now, if non-Whites had been a real minority, then they should have been totally expelled (or killed) as it would have been the easiest and smartest thing to do. This is why we're told that we shall share neither our gods, women nor our lands with non-Whites. Period. And so we don't even need to leave a sweet spot for non-Whites in our creeds. As a matter of fact Jews have none of that shit in their own religious texts and it has been their strength for all that time despite not even having their own lands for nearly two thousand years.
>>49012 >Even if they did, it would have nonetheless be inclusive of non-Aryans. That's probably the smartest thing I've ever read on here so far. So many posters stop at "Vedicism had castes and it would be good enough to just segregate the races and it'll all be dandy". Thing is, what exactly stops one from going even further? Why not just get rid of the shitskins? This question surprisingly divides the user base on here and other boards. They seem to be interested in having non-white connections? I guess so. >>49011 >Yesterday you shared your gods. >Today strangers pray next to you at the shrine. >Tomorrow your daughter is fucked by a pajeet or gook Bingo! Some shitskin could've infiltrated his way here and began shilling for muh based Hinduism crap! Dravidians are scum and are never Aryan. If anyone says I'm an idiot for saying that non-whites found this board and are shilling for a positive view of their race, they're either a White cuck or a non-white hoping he'll be spared in a future race war. It's quite pathetic. The board owner has been pretty silent about niggers and other dark assortments possibly using this board. But then again, I could be wrong since he could be busy.
>>49011 >- Yesterday you shared your gods. >- Today strangers pray next to you at the shrine. >- Tomorrow your daughter is fucked by a pajeet or gook. Non sequitur. You did nothing to refute anything I said about ancient Europeans, various sorts of gods, etc. >Again, we don't share our gods/spirits. Kek @ you thinking you decide this and not the gods. >And the Truth has proven that segregation must be applied at all levels of mind and society. Never denied. >In later texts he's downmoded to overlord and sort of protector of colored people . Literally just making things up now. >In fact it goes against logic and proper universal order because opposites need to be at the exact same distance from the center they share otherwise the entire spectrum they constrain would be at perpetual imbalance, yet all opposites at such a metaphysical level must by design be of equal absolute values but opposed in relative value. Nice word-salad > Buddhism's opener could literally start as "from dust to dust, therefore I shall push out of my one self that very breath that made me human in the first place." Buddhism doesn't teach becoming an emotionless robot. Brahmaviharas, etc.
>>49057 >Thing is, what exactly stops one from going even further? Why not just get rid of the shitskins? At the very least, strict territorial segregation must be attained and maintained at all costs. >>>49011 >>- Yesterday you shared your gods. >>- Today strangers pray next to you at the shrine. >>- Tomorrow your daughter is fucked by a pajeet or gook. >Non sequitur. You did nothing to refute anything I said about ancient Europeans, various sorts of gods, etc. It's sequitur af. I have no less than THREE huge historical examples proving my point beyond dispute: India, Persia and Egypt. I could even add Xinxiang/Tarim culture as it was clearly White several thousand years ago and suffered the same fate but it might be a case of these Whites simply being invaded and outnumbered and therefore forced to mix. Overall, the rule seems simple: some less disciplined White men fuck anything brown with a pussy while women say lords should be nice towards others regardless of origins, all of this because of their usual misplaced compassion. There you go, you've got your first batch of mutts who are smarter than their brown ancestors and therefore show sign of intelligence and start asserting their rights at a better education, access to knowledge and unavoidably power, and it keeps piling on, generation after generation. >>Again, we don't share our gods/spirits. >Kek @ you thinking you decide this and not the gods. The subversive poster is subversive. I'm just posting here so no other lurker who reads your drivel would think you made a point. >>And the Truth has proven that segregation must be applied at all levels of mind and society. >Never denied. You just did in your reply above you absolute human waste. Segregation includes, or perhaps even starts at the metaphysical plane. >>In later texts he's downmoded to overlord and sort of protector of colored people . >Literally just making things up now. Show me quotations from later texts where he goes killing shitskins and treats them as subhumans then. >>In fact it goes against logic and proper universal order because opposites need to be at the exact same distance from the center they share otherwise the entire spectrum they constrain would be at perpetual imbalance, yet all opposites at such a metaphysical level must by design be of equal absolute values but opposed in relative value. >Nice word-salad Sorry if you can't understand basic logic about universal opposites. It is for example present in the core of Dao teachings. >> Buddhism's opener could literally start as "from dust to dust, therefore I shall push out of my one self that very breath that made me human in the first place." >Buddhism doesn't teach becoming an emotionless robot. Brahmaviharas, etc. Just try rubbing two neurons once. Positive emotions are a source of attachment. They obviously need to be shunned and ditched for extraction out of worldly existence to work.
>>49077 > It is for example present in the core of Dao teachings. Get this non-White chink garbage out of here
>>46445 I decided to chime in after a very long fasting when it comes to chans, been trying to sync myself with the mundane, but NPC's and beastmen are truly insufferable. The control that yids have over them is practically absolute at this point. Been doing a lot of reading in the meantime, can recommend some good books if lads are interested. >I stopped following most of the Right on various social medias for safety's sake, not that it would have made a difference at that point. I know everyone says this but I really do believe my info has been processed by glowies Likewise, tried acting like a good goi for a while but it didn't make much of a difference. Now I'm gangstalked by literal Orks lmao. I have dodged the sickle of Saturn like a true maestro though. Already quite acquainted with it's attack patterns, and this one began about the time that Biden got elected. I posted something on 8ch which really stirred certain dark centers so they threw everything they got at me. Be careful, you have no idea just how far these creatures will go to try to ruin you. >Telegram I guess a group would be a good idea as long as we keep it kosher enough >>47018 >Spirituality and nobility were destroyed Wrong. French "aristorcracy" was already poz'd and completely removed from the spirit of Tradition, the Revolution was only a symptom of a very long and gradual disease, which began as early as the late Vedic period. >Salvation doctrines might literally be a whole huge trap There are very different approaches when it comes to this, but having a Gnostic outlook does not prevent you from engaging with the mundane world, to the extent that your essence doesn't get corrupted and absorbed by it. Which depends on the overall power of your Spirit. t. EH Serblad
>>49057 The board owner is usually busy with other things. I have been looking at this thread for a couple days now after noticing it picked up activity again and I think all the Hinduism stuff should probably be considered derailment similar to christian posting in these threads in the past.
Addendum: no other religious view should be discussed in this thread besides druidry.