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The coming civil war Anonymous 08/01/2021 (Sun) 20:48:35 No. 48258
So how many of you think we're going to have a civil war soon? What do you think is going to be the final straw that kicks things off?
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>>48258 >Attorney General Merrick Garland has issued a warning to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott stating if he does not rescind the executive order authorizing vehicles to be searched for immigrants, that the Justice Department will pursue legal action. https://twitter.com/JerasIkehorn/status/1421007059504435202 >TWITTER SUSPENDS WI, NV, PA, GA AUDIT ACCOUNTS https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-suspends-2020-election-audit-accounts-multiple-states >Jew York Times Justice Department reporter declares all Trump supporters enemies of the state. This is not an opinion reporter who writes op-eds but rather their news reporter. This is now their official stance. https://twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1420037852746878981 >Majority of Americans, including nearly a third of Democrats, believe the 2020 election results were fraudulent https://www.westernjournal.com/tide-turning-democrats-begin-doubt-bidens-election-victory-majority-voters-now-support-election-audits/ >Biden turns the "war on terror" against whites https://www.amren.com/news/2021/06/president-biden-turns-the-war-on-terror-against-whites/
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>>48259 >Oregon poll Finds 4 in 10 State Residents are White Nationalist https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2021/06/14/survey-reveals-scale-oregonian-support-white-nationalist-ideals/7657355002/ >In 2018, 31% believed that America had to protect or preserve its White European heritage, compared with 40% in 2021. >It’s a “disturbing” revelation, said Lindsay (((Schubiner)))), a program director at Western States Center. >2 Oregon counties vote to secede, merge with Idaho https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/16/two-oregon-counties-voted-to-look-at-joining-idaho-now-what/ >Texas GOP chair says in light of Supreme Court tossing out Texas case, "Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.” https://twitter.com/adamkelsey/status/1337549501507264515 >the pros and non-existent cons of an independent Texas nation https://tnm.me/news/political/the-pros-and-non-existant-cons-of-an-independent-texas-nation/ >Biden Administration Prepares Way For Banks To Refuse Service To Democrats’ Enemies >By abusing the powers of federal regulators, Operation Choke Point 2.0 would stifle the bipartisanship, unity, and healing President Biden claims to desire. https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/19/biden-administration-prepares-way-for-banks-to-refuse-service-to-democrats-enemies/
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>>48260 >Nearly a Third of Americans Want to Break up the United States Into Like-Minded Countries https://www.amren.com/news/2021/02/nearly-a-third-of-americans-want-to-break-up-the-united-states-into-like-minded-countries/ >Poll: Nearly 40 percent of likely voters would support state secession if their candidate loses https://www.ktsa.com/poll-nearly-40-percent-of-likely-voters-would-support-state-secession-if-their-candidate-loses/ >Most Likely to Secede: 36% of Texans supported secession in 2014 https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/most-likely-to-secede/ >Putin threatens to arm Texans if they secede https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/vladimir-putin-texas-secession-119288/ https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/is-russia-pushing-for-texas-secession-7340112 >Political breakup, or global depopulation? >Thinktank predicts 70% reduction in American population by 2025 http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/03/political-breakup-or-global-depopulation.html
>>48258 >What do you think is going to be the final straw that kicks things off? There wont be, for at least 4 more years. I said it during the last election. I thought Trump was the accelerationists choice. The cuckservatives will do nothing under Biden, it will just be a nice slow erosion of rights. Had Trump won the election, BLM/Antifa would have continued to escalate, riot, chimpouts etc etc, then maybe there would have been a chance of shit kicking off
>>48258 >>Attorney General Merrick Garland has issued a warning to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Abbott is hopeless Zio-clown. If the ADL reminds Abbott that its Israelis arming the Death Squads that are running these Indians off their land and into USA..... AND that its Israeli NGOs doing the caravans you KNOW Abbott will come around, and quickly. Abbott is only "searching cars" because he knows the real invasion is with US Govt chartered buses at US military bases and even jet liners and Abbott ain't gonna mess with that. Any Exe Order given by Abbott will include giving all full pass and all aid and comfort to any Wetbacks waving those envelopes of cash and tickets and Feds are passing out, and any that don't have them are merely directed to where they can get them. I'm not thinking so much "Civil War" but more like Great Terror and/or Cultural Revolution. The GOP threw in the towel in 1975 and The Left is just wondering WTF is taking so long to start openly killing whats left of USA.
The sooner the better. If enough people adopt a revolutionary standpoint and become fanatical which means using every opportunity possible to deride and defame ZOG online and offline it will happen sooner no doubt. High quality thread king, quality from 4chan of all things.
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>>48270 This is going to be a war across political, racial, and religious lines. A racial holy war. We're the most fortunate generation to ever live. Never have there been greater odds to overcome. The greater the struggle, the greater the glory in defeating it. We will either be the last generation of free white men to ever live, or we will be the greatest generation of white to ever live and future generations will wish they could have struggled beside us and forged a new era with the blood of heroes.
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>>48312 the second, evil never wins and we will win
>>48262 >The cuckservatives will do nothing under Biden, it will just be a nice slow erosion of rights. >Had Trump won the election, BLM/Antifa would have continued to escalate, riot, chimpouts etc etc, then maybe there would have been a chance of shit kicking off Relying on your enemy to kick things off when you already lack all organizational or political power is a terrible idea. The problem is jews running America. If Antifa somehow managed to get out of hand, the regime would simply rally behind a cuckservative message of unity shit like it did after 9/11, showing disgusting pictures of niggers and Whites holding hands and waving flags while the regime forces obliterated antifa to the cheering of do nothing cuckservatives. Then everyone would just reset to (((normal))) with jewish power unassailable and our race continuing to be blended out of existence. What is needed is not for Whites to rally behind the jewish government against leftist agitators. What is needed is for Whites to rally against the government. What is needed is White Revolution. That will only happen once we can get through their thick skulls that the government wants genocide. Biden constantly proclaiming his intention to exterminate us is a good thing. Sadly, most people are too stupid to realize that the president is not the one in control of the country. They thought that Trump was on their side and was in control. What was needed to wake them up was seeing an openly anti-White shithead in office. I genuinely wish that Bernie Sanders or Michael Bloomberg had won so that there would be a jew in office. Or better yet, a nigger like Kamala Harris. Let it be obvious. If we are fit to survive, we will begin supporting its overthrow. If Whites do not begin resisting an openly genocidal regime, then we were not fit to survive in the first place.
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>>48312 I can't find it anywhere on my computer, even though I know I have it. Anyone have an image with Nazi soldiers fighting under the galaxy/black sun, with a quote explaining how we're fighting a cosmic war, komischer kampf? Not merely a war for survival or dominance, but a spiritual war where the stakes are all of existence?
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>>48337 I disagree, it is more dangerous to have a white traitor in office like Trump than a nigger like Harris or whatever because it is easier for him to cheat his fellow whites, nothing happened with Obama and nothing will happen with another nigger
>>48351 I agree brother. Better to have someone in office who is perceived as an enemy from most rather than someone who larps as a (((hero for whites))). MAGA and Q followers need to realize trump only made israel greater, not america. Plus the Obama administration was one of the greatest gun salesman, fearmongering many americans to prepare for the boogaloo. Sleepy joe will be the same.
>>48338 >>48339 Tucker Carlson is a zionist faggot that exists only to give people the illusion that their view points are being represented in the regime. You shouldn't associate yourself with the (((right-wing))). They're degenerate losers and their only goal in the kosher dialectic is to be defeated.
>>48354 It's a meme, bro. Calm down.
>>48351 >I disagree, it is more dangerous to have a white traitor in office like Trump than a nigger like Harris or whatever because it is easier for him to cheat his fellow whites ... that's what I said, anon. >nothing happened with Obama and nothing will happen with another nigger A lot happened under Obama. The alt-right became widespread under Obama while it evaporated under Trump. Obama's term ended with openly pro-White marches in the streets. Trump's term ended with a sad civic nationalist (and astroturfed) march through the capitol.
>>48364 I remember how trumpniggers would say how great Trump was for donating his salary or some shit when in reality he probably got more money out of being president than any other president just by taking boomers to the cleaners with "stop the steal" shit and various other grifts. Between the grifting and the Qanonsense, I don't think any population has been more abused by the people they think are representing them.
If a civil war begins, it will because we, the straight white men, begin it, the jewish regime has no interest in risking it's power by triggering an armed conflict, they want things to go smoothly and quietly, so every effort is taken by them to ensure fighting will not break out, they know that hiding behind goyim makes rebellion difficult because we are less willing to harm those we consider to be undeserving (rightfully or not). We will gather into groups, head towards the wealthiest areas of the nearest cities, and lay siege to the people who live there (jews and their puppets). We will then fight with the security and police, and shift to declaring war on the police themselves, who are the first line of defense and frontline troops for any regime, anyone in a police uniform is wearing the uniform of the enemy, and we must wake up to the fact that if the war is going to happen, we will have to begin by killing the cops or taking them prisoner. After that, we can expect the national guard to show up just as before, the jews will force us to butcher our fellow gentiles to liberate our countries, an at that point we must do so without hesitation. When enforcement for the enemy regime is removed, that land becomes our own, there may be local resistance from civilians, but we could likely put them down easily if we were strong enough to take on the cops and national guard and win. We immediately begin to set about rebuilding what was torn down, we show the people what our idea of an alternative to the government we fight against would be like, new government, new laws, new everything, order must be enforced, and it must not be totalitarian, in fact, it should be more lenient than the way things were done under the previous regime, because the place must appeal to the people who are there, or they will leave or turn against us. First thing is to set up housing and feeding them, as well as providing them with everything they need, we will have to do this because the regime will cut the area off from all the things it depends upon from the outside, so the place will need to become entirely self-reliant or it will fall on it's face in short time. We will need to set up defenses and fortifications, in order to keep the regime out and keep the people in, many people will want to escape, even after we have set things up to make them want to stay as much as we could, we cannot allow them to leave, because of the risk of them leaking out information to the regime or otherwise betraying our rebellion to them, contact with the outside must also be silenced. Once our territory is well established, and we have endured and repelled the attacks of regime forces seeking to reclaim it, we can move out to expand our land holdings, claiming more territory, then taking the time to develop it into something sustainable and defensible, and moving on. A good approach is to try and win the hearts and minds of the people in the lands we claim, to make them prefer us to the regime, despite us having less to offer, to that end we should focus on giving them a government that provides them with the things that the regime did not, things that they would greatly prefer not to lose, ideas include providing more freedom, there will be lots of laws and rules that could be cut down, which I guarantee would immediately make a lot of people a lot happier with you, more opportunity, especially economic or educational, better treatment, more personal and reasonable governance, especially when it comes to the law enforcement and justice systems, etc.
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>>48364 >march through the capitol in my opinion capitol events will wake up more whites than the riots of 2020
>>48366 >we can expect the national guard to show up what about the army
>>48365 >he probably got more money out of being president than any other president just by taking boomers to the cleaners with "stop the steal" shit and various other grifts. I unironically believe that he intentionally lost the 2020 election so that he could grift from his supporters. >>48368 >in my opinion capitol events will wake up more whites than the riots of 2020 Personally, I disagree. Nothing is more redpilling than seeing niggers rampaging through the streets while the cops do jack shit to stop them. >>48366 Checked, based, redpilled I'll make one comment on this; All governments are mostly illusion. There is nothing sacred about being a senator. If enough people believed that MS-13 was the legitimate government of America, it would be. However, government itself (and that is to say, the regime which includes business and political figures) is only as powerful as the personal networks of a few hundred people. Consider how impossible it would be for a president to exercise power if he did not have personal relationships with media bosses, local strongmen (political or otherwise), and other key people within the wider regime. Nothing would get done. But these personal networks are not immortal. When the individual with the network dies, his network dies with him. The only way to preserve a regime is to pass on your network to your successor. What I am getting at is that if enough key people were to die without having suitable heirs, the entire regime network will fail. "Experience" in politics is just a code word for how many important people do you know well. Consider the president of a hypothetical nation. He dies, his heir dies, and so do many of the people at the top. The president is replaced by a man who does not know the generals of the army. His staff are replaced by people who do not know the important media figures. Or what if the CEO of the media corp dies too and is replaced by a person who doesn't know the key figures who run the corporation? Chaos is what you get.
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>>48397 >Nothing is more redpilling than seeing niggers rampaging well, I already gave you my opinion, having a race traitor in office is awakening
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>>48432 Predictions for how the civil war is going to go: >racial lines Niggers are going to walk into random malls, businesses, etc. and just start shooting white people. Spics are going to try to form gangs/militias to form separatist enclaves in their neighborhoods. You'll see whites burning down public housing and shooting rioting niggers in retaliation for the 'random' shootings. It will eventually escalate to the point people are afraid to go out in public for fear of being shot/stabbed/whatever by opportunistic race warriors. In a race war, your skin is your uniform and you can't take it off; it doesn't matter if you're "one of the good ones", a total cuck and race traitor, or a neutral fence sitter, someone is going to see your 'uniform' and think of you as the enemy. Which is fucking fantastic, because the best way to get someone to quit sitting on the fence and pick a side is to knock them off the fence. >religious Muslims and edgy gaytheists shooting up churches. A dozen Robert Bowers and John Earnest's shooting synagogues. A hundred Brenton Tarrant's shooting up mosques. Pretty soon nobody will feel safe gathering in groups that make for big, tempting targets. Many synagogues are already fortresses thanks to Jewish paranoia, and a lot of Christian churches have formed internal security/militias, members with concealed carry licenses who are strategically positioned within the churches in case of a mass shooter, in response to the church shootings in the last few years. Ties in to the race war above. >political war Leftists are going to vandalize or burn cars with Trump bumper stickers (more than they do already). Right-wingers are going to remember who in their neighborhood had Biden/Bernie signs in their yards and toss molotovs or road flares onto their roofs in the middle of the night. Anyone with an overt political display is going to be targeted by their neighbors who remember them as being 'the enemy'. The feds, of course, will be carrying out constant false flags, for a number of reasons: to provide an excuse for a crack down on political enemies, to make it seem like they're proactive (and therefore need a bigger budget), and to make it seem like the enemy is actually dangerous. Meanwhile, a lot of normal people are going to be pushed to their limit and start targeting politicians, government employees, and journalists in retaliation. The real fun happens when China and Russia start arming various groups, and Mexican drug cartels start smuggling weapons instead of drugs. The collapse of America will make the breakup of Yugoslavia look like a fucking walk in the park. And it won't stay confined to America, it's going to spread like wildfire throughout Europe, and China and other countries will take advantage of the distraction to start some shit that would otherwise earn them a nuclear hellfire and WW3. The entire world is going to be consumed by the domino effect.
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>>48432 Predictions for how the civil war is going to go: >racial lines Niggers are going to walk into random malls, businesses, etc. and just start shooting white people. Spics are going to try to form gangs/militias to form separatist enclaves in their neighborhoods. You'll see whites burning down public housing and shooting rioting niggers in retaliation for the 'random' shootings. It will eventually escalate to the point people are afraid to go out in public for fear of being shot/stabbed/whatever by opportunistic race warriors. In a race war, your skin is your uniform and you can't take it off; it doesn't matter if you're "one of the good ones", a total cuck and race traitor, or a neutral fence sitter, someone is going to see your 'uniform' and think of you as the enemy. Which is fucking fantastic, because the best way to get someone to quit sitting on the fence and pick a side is to knock them off the fence. >religious Muslims and edgy gaytheists shooting up churches. A dozen Robert Bowers and John Earnest's shooting synagogues. A hundred Brenton Tarrant's shooting up mosques. Pretty soon nobody will feel safe gathering in groups that make for big, tempting targets. Many synagogues are already fortresses thanks to Jewish paranoia, and a lot of Christian churches have formed internal security/militias, members with concealed carry licenses who are strategically positioned within the churches in case of a mass shooter, in response to the church shootings in the last few years. Ties in to the race war above. >political war Leftists are going to vandalize or burn cars with Trump bumper stickers (more than they do already). Right-wingers are going to remember who in their neighborhood had Biden/Bernie signs in their yards and toss molotovs or road flares onto their roofs in the middle of the night. Anyone with an overt political display is going to be targeted by their neighbors who remember them as being 'the enemy'. The feds, of course, will be carrying out constant false flags, for a number of reasons: to provide an excuse for a crack down on political enemies, to make it seem like they're proactive (and therefore need a bigger budget), and to make it seem like the enemy is actually dangerous. Meanwhile, a lot of normal people are going to be pushed to their limit and start targeting politicians, government employees, and journalists in retaliation. The real fun happens when China and Russia start arming various groups, and Mexican drug cartels start smuggling weapons instead of drugs. The collapse of America will make the breakup of Yugoslavia look like a fucking walk in the park. And it won't stay confined to America, it's going to spread like wildfire throughout Europe, and China and other countries will take advantage of the distraction to start some shit that would otherwise earn them a nuclear hellfire and WW3. The entire world is going to be consumed by the domino effect.
>>48509 >A dozen Robert Bowers and John Earnest's shooting synagogues. A hundred Brenton Tarrant's shooting up mosques. >The feds, of course, will be carrying out constant false flags, for a number of reasons: to provide an excuse for a crack down on political enemies, to make it seem like they're proactive (and therefore need a bigger budget), and to make it seem like the enemy is actually dangerous.
>>48368 Lol all they will want is more Qrump and Cuntstitushun. You know, the same shit that says people of all races are equal. If Jews hadn't spent their whole time preparing for a shift of power towards Asia, I'd welcome the overall chaos, but it's hard to deny the fact that there's a high likeliness of Asian banding together, having a upper hand in quantity of walking flesh bags, to steamroll us wherever we stand. We have much lower numbers overall however we are still the majority in our own countries in most cases, but the migrants are less soft and much more based about the race. They also have tons of illegal weapons and smuggling routes to get more from their own shithole countries. Meanwhile as the Western "civilized" world would go down in flames, nothing would stop Israel from definitely securing its hold over a wider area and exterminating more people, allowing them to have free reign to build more weapons without fearing any retaliation from neutralized neighboring turd people. The USA and Europe will fall because of racial division, at pain to maintain control over complex military and network technologies. This means that even if we were to keep niggers and beaners at bay, the situation would be nothing more than a mutual neutralization too due to a defacto creating of new real frontiers yet not acknowledged by whatever would remain on the official political groups. But there would be no way we could safely challenge Russia, China and Israel. A total chaos is the least thing we actually need as we must find a way to preserve key military resources to be able to quickly shift the tide of war and avoid finding ourselves being sitting ducks in some new Kosovo-like residual states with the Asians lording over us with their satellites, drones and other high tech gears. I hope that some US counties banding together will grow into a new white backbone that will also us to rebound early on and grab all useful industrial assets to quickly assert our dominance over the apemen and deploy all the necessary genocidal firepower before it's too late. In such a context, I would not in the slightest be surprised—and equally extremely weary— of some odd people excessively pushing for complete sabotage and destruction of valuable assets everything when we could actually capture such targets.
>>48258 Defunding the police and allowing natural to be in effect.
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>Texas to arrest AWOL Democrats https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-Supreme-Court-greenlights-arrest-of-AWOL-16377315.php >Jew Democrat judge blocks arrest of Democrats who fled the state so a vote on voter ID couldn't be held >Texas supreme court immediately overturns it less than 24 hours later and issues warrants for their arrest >Texas Rangers will track down the AWOL Democrats, handcuff them, and drag them back to the state legislature and force them to be present for the vote, which they will lose, passing voter ID law in Texas I would love to see an armed standoff between Texas Rangers and the capitol police/Secret Service/US Marshals when Biden (or, let's be honest, his handlers) tries to prevent the arrest and extradition of legislators who fled the state so the vote couldn't be held. Even more so if it starts a shooting war between the feds and states.
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>>48598 The first Civil War started when South Carolina told the feds to go fuck themselves; is the second Civil War going to start with Texas? >Texas legislature passes Made In Texas law exempting suppressors from federal regulations, including registration and taxation https://thetexan.news/state-legislature-exempts-texas-made-suppressors-from-federal-gun-laws/ >Biden Administration Prepares Way For Banks To Refuse Service To Democrats’ Enemies >By abusing the powers of federal regulators, Operation Choke Point 2.0 would stifle the bipartisanship, unity, and healing President Biden claims to desire. https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/19/biden-administration-prepares-way-for-banks-to-refuse-service-to-democrats-enemies/ >Pentagon to screen military recruits for rightwing leanings https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1367277803520016385
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>>48598 America will never recover from getting BTFO by the eternal Pashtun
>>48602 Good fuck DC
>>48609 Afghanistan will be better off under the Taliban anyway. I look forward to their tears. America cannot even win against goat-herders.
I whole heartedly agree with many sentiments here. I wholly believe that once a US civil war starts many other wars will start due to the loss of security from US projection of power (no world police), thus extremist ideals will proliferate at an exponential rate and external conflicts that have boiled over decades will be allowed free reign. It will allow ideas not allowed under current governments to be challenged via force. The collapse of weak governments stemming from economic prospects, biased justice systems , violence and a myriad of other components will be exacerbated. Really the only thing keeping this world together at this moment is the US and it vast arsenal. One thing lacking however is strong leadership. If anons would be able to gain small amounts of influence/power it would greatly benefit any movement that might otherwise be either subverted (occupy wall street) or swept aside due to disunity (France's "yellow vest"). True leadership, one that instills fervent loyalty. respect, unity is not one that the government would easily handle. I'm positive many anons here have those qualities within them, they just need to act upon those beliefs. Training in rural/urban warfare is fine but it shouldn't be the only thing you study. Reading and studying from past influences is incredibly important as well as understanding the struggles they faced from persecution to execution. Any moment not spent training should be used to study or getting involved in your community. Studying topographical maps, past Fascist/National Socialist movements why and how they succeeded or failed, local and national news. Once you feel comfortable with your knowledge go out and influence young people. It will be difficult, it will be dangerous but if you truly believe in those ideas regardless of any outcome as long as you have put your entire self into it will not be one of regret. Don't allow regret to encompass your mind at your final moments. Remember in the end of all things they fear You most of all. They don't fear the weak and idiotic communist, they will merely usurp control from them. They couldn't care less about disunited libertarians as they trample on personal freedoms in the name capitalist/private property. A true Fascist, National Socialist movement now that they truly fear, a fear so great even a small group on an anime imageboard had to be destroyed. A group so terrifying to them one individual is enough to change national laws. A fear so great that just the idea of us having any sort of power or influence in forbidden. Allowed to roam free they know that our ideas would influence the coming generation so they banned us but even in our small recess we grow.
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>>48616 Well said, anon. When America falls into civil war or Balkanizes, this will set off a domino effect around the world: global civil war. Europe will tear itself apart, patriots and nationalists fighting to save their countries from globohomo and the imported hordes of shitskins, the shitskins fighting to conquer European soil as they did in the past, and globohomo fighting to save itself. China will send arms to the various groups to escalate the war and ensure America is too distracted to deal with them, and then China will try to conquer its neighbors, starting with Taiwan. With America out of the picture, will Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines, etc. fight to defend Taiwan, deciding it's best to put on a united front rather than be conquered piecemeal, or appease the giant in hopes of being invaded last? Will Russia make another grab for clay, or be content to send weapons and Spetsnaz "advisers" to various factions within the American civil war? This isn't going to be like the first civil war, with borders and two clear-cut sides. There will be Nazis, black supremacists, Mexican La Raza types, muslims, Mormons, federal agents and their globohomo allies, libertarians/generic boomer conservatives, and more, all fighting each other simultaneously, each faction either trying to gain control or simply carve off a piece for themselves. Alliances will shift as factions team up against common enemies, then fall apart as infighting pits them against each other. Fascists infighting over "pagan LARPers" vs "dead Jew on a stick", lolbergs joining up with ethnonationalists against globohomo only to turn against each other in an argument over rights vs duties and freedom vs degeneracy, muslims teaming up with commies against Nazis only to turn on each other over trannies and fags. Factions turning on each other other purity spirals. And then you'll have the thousands of lone wolves and small buddy teams operating independently who don't align with any one group, or who do but have no idea what the hell team anybody else they encounter is playing for unless it's super obvious (niggers = shoot on sight). It's gonna be a fucking mess.
>>48617 Honest to god, you're right. Its baffling to know how shitskins who are in the "redpilled circles" are gonna survive. I'm willing to bet that my example is a litmus test in the future. Is a WN fine with "redpilled shitskins"? If so, he ain't right! Or something like that. I don't know.
>>48411 Well, I guess we'll have both. Plus economic collapse.
>>48509 >edgy gaytheists shooting up churches Doubt any atheists will shoot up a church unless it's a nigger church and the shooter is shooting for racial rather than religious reasons. >Right-wingers are going to remember who in their neighborhood had Biden/Bernie signs in their yards For me, it is the BLM signs. I made a note of who lives where. For legal purposes, of course. Throwing a road flare onto a roof will do little. >China and other countries will take advantage of the distraction to start some shit that would otherwise earn them a nuclear hellfire and WW3. China will probably invade Taiwan. Then intervene in Korea to unite Korea under Kim Jong Un. Japan will need to arm up quickly or accept Chinese overlordship. Russia meanwhile will be an actual problem for White unity. They will likely invade Ukraine and the Baltic states, possibly also Belarus and maybe even Poland. This will likely lead to a general war between the remnants of NATO and the EU vs Russia. Both China and Russia will then fund rebels in the USA to keep NATO busy. China also has a serious food problem with no solutions. With the collapse of world trade, they will need to figure out how to get oil and grain into China without sending their army abroad and risking political collapse at home.
>>48530 >If Jews hadn't spent their whole time preparing for a shift of power towards Asia They haven't. Jews still don't look Chinese. They stick out like sore thumbs. Jews still don't control Chinese banks or media institutions. And try as they did, China still refuses to become a liberal democracy, thus jews would be true outsiders socially and politically. > there's a high likeliness of Asian banding together There is no likelihood of Asians banding together. They hate each other more than White people do. >nothing would stop Israel from definitely securing its hold over a wider area and exterminating more people If the USA imploded, nothing would stop Arabs from revolting against their puppet regimes, and nothing would stop Iran from obliterating its hated enemy. America, ZOG, is what is maintaining the jewish world order. >total chaos is the least thing we actually need as we must find a way to preserve key military resources to be able to quickly shift the tide of war (((stability))) = Whites continue to be slowly blended out of existence. Chaos = chance for White survival. So long as politics as usual continue, we will be slowly exterminated. If you cared at all about White survival, you would want as much chaos as possible. And soon. We don't have much time left. >I hope that some US counties banding together will grow into a new white backbone If you wanted this, you would support chaos. >some odd people excessively pushing for complete sabotage and destruction of valuable assets everything when we could actually capture such targets. Oh yes, we'll just waltz up to the apparatus of the jewish p0lice state and just "capture" it. Oh yes. That seems likely. Jews will just sit there and accept their lot, saying, Agh, sure we openly state that we want the goyim gone, and sure, we know that the goyim will punish us for trying to genocide them, but they had an election and ve must respect democracy. This is idiotic. There will never be a mass awakening of Whites until either we control the media or there is mass chaos. Since the jews will never surrender their control willingly, the only choice is mass chaos. Chaos = race war = White reaction = White Revolution
>>48618 In order to prevent such an eventuality, it is important to make race the main point of contention when the war goes hot. Don't be an asshole about it, but always bring any discussion back to race when you can. This, after all, is what politics is all about anyway. ALL political issues are ultimately about race because biological politics is the only lasting politics.
>>48645 the chinese love jews, they want to be jews, they have whole sections in libraies dedicated to how to be more jewish
>>48654 >the chinese love jews, they want to be jews, You don't even understand what you are saying. If the chinks love jews, why don't they let them run their country? But the second part of your sentence is more interesting because you didn't even realize that if the Chinese become jews, they will inevitably replace them because there can only be one "jew" in the world. And any wise White nationalist would welcome a new kind of jew that doesn't look White. If you understood the struggle we are engaged in, you would realize that jewish power stems from the fact that jews look White.
Look it's simple. First we tell non-whites that it's the jews who are the bad people > kill all kikes > now only the shitskins are left and are weak because kikes are no longer supporting them > turn the backs on shitskins and kill them too. It never was kikes vs goyim. It's been Whites vs subhumanity. The Whites are the only good guys.
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Here's where boomers are going to stand during this whole conflict.
>>48662 The first people you will be killing is white people. Police officers, soldiers, security officers, angry mobs vigilantes. These will be your first targets, realize this, lock it in. That's the line between you and the prime targets. You will need to carve through innocents to get to the guilty, this is the reality. Most people will oppose you not because they support the system, but because they protect the status quo, you will need to remove them in order to make a difference, that means killing a lot of them.
>>48673 Civil War is very messy business. I recommend you research it intensely, every aspect must be looked into.
>>48659 >If the chinks love jews, why don't they let them run their country? Jews founded the Chinese communist party, and were behind the cultural revolution, and are in charge of their economy just as much as they are in charge of the American one Get your head straight.
>>48675 >Jews founded the Chinese communist party And? Germans funded the Bolshevik Party Did Germans run Russia? No. Russia was run by the people running Russia. And that was jews. China is run by the people running China. At present, that is Chinese.
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>>48672 >>48678 What if the Russian communists were more like boomer conservatives? There would never have been a communist revolution. What if the French tried to convince the Haitians that revolting was what the French wanted? Would even a nigger be so stupid to fall for such an argument? What if the Viet Cong had to rely on boomer conservatives for their insurgency? They would insist that resisting America was a CIA plot to make the Viet Cong look bad. And America would have won the war as a result.
>>48673 >Police officers, soldiers, security officers, angry mobs vigilantes. plenty of those are not white
>>48659 >And any wise White nationalist would welcome a new kind of jew that doesn't look White. what ? >stems from the fact that jews look White wrong, judaism is a society, a culture and a religion too, it is a nation inserted in other nations, a nation within a nation, being white is just part of the problem
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>>48675 this
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>>48677 >Germans funded the Bolshevik Party false, jews funded the bolshevik party
>>48685 >jews funded the bolshevik party Indeed. That explains why the Soviets supported israel first place
>>48662 >It never was kikes vs goyim. It's been Whites vs subhumanity. The Whites are the only good guys. >subhumans Include muslims too, they have downed our towers, we must fight them back, they are surely going to replace us and I'm being serious
>>48677 >China is run by the people running China with an ideology created by jews, so jews are running china, stop the semantics anon
>>48687 >being this new Subhumans mean ALL kinds of non-whites. Unless you meant that muslims are the good guys too, alongside Whites.
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>>48687 >muslims they are allies of the kikes, always have been
>>48690 China's closer to a fascist state than anything else and really that's been true since Mao died.
>>48686 >That explains why the Soviets supported israel first place. By the time israel was a thing, jews didn't actually have that much hard power within the USSR -- this was actually one of primary motivations of the Cold War.
>>48692 we need our own religion, too many Protestants praise the (((chosen ones))) above themselves. My family is last cause when it comes to JQ and my connections will become severed from not only my parents but my uncles and aunts. I don't like Christianity or at least it's current form, if you are against Israel you are against Christianity is the minds of these people.I have been homeless because of this for a few weeks before returning back home and minimum wage jobs are definitely not enough to support yourself
>>48698 pretty much anything associated with the american "right" is dead weight for White nationalists, and that includes christianity.
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>>48692 Hopefully they will wake up eventually.
>>48683 >what ? It should be obvious, but I will explain further. Jews effectively rule the world. Jews are unchallenged in their overlordship. We are, at present, helpless Helots under the jewish slave-masters. At present, to our endless shame, we are not capable of successfully revolting against the jewish slave masters. However, if what you said was true and the chinese wanted to become the new jews, then it follows that they seek to replace the jews. But the jews aren't just going to allow themselves to be replaced by another ethnocentric overlord. After all, if that happens, the jews not only lose their status, but they die out since the very first thing the Chinese would do is exterminate their weak competition. Thus, the jews would fight to the death. And so would the Chinese. They would fight. Understand? During a war between two potential masters, Helots can revolt and free ourselves from both. If White people are incapable of freeing ourselves on our own, then we need help. Any element of chaos and instability within the (((system))) is thus a good thing. There is no political solution to an aristocracy that cheats to maintain their power, who writes all the rules we must follow, and who now openly are committing genocide against us. You cannot vote your way out of genocide. You must either fight or die. > judaism is a society This is just civic nationalist foolishness. Jews are not a culture or a religion. They are a race. That is why religious jews support their atheist kin despite having absolutely nothing in common other than their shared racial identity. An identity which views itself as alien to the host population and thus, in unceasing war with us, the host. Chinese view themselves as Chinese, not jewish. That will never change. That is the fundamental truth about nationalism which you ought to have noticed by now. Everyone is a nationalist except for Whites. We used to be nationalists before the jew, who is himself ethnocentric, tricked us into abandoning the most basic form of political aspiration. 99.999% of all humans who have ever existed were nationalists to their tribe, to their city-state, to their ethnos, to their people.
>>48685 In WW1, the Germans not only gave enormous subsidies to the Bolshevik party, but literally transported Lenin on a train to Finland so that he could destabilize Russia. Try reading up on WW1 before you talk about it.
>>48690 >with an ideology created by jews See >>48677 You are the one playing semantics. I am cutting through wordism and saying; Look who actually runs China. Not jews. Chinese. You let your dogatism cloud your view of the world and you use semantics to pilpul >b-b-b-b-but communism is jewish Yes. But China is not run by jews, nor do they take orders from New York. They take orders from the party. Which is Chinese.
>>48702 >Jews effectively rule the world. >Jews are unchallenged in their overlordship. I would dispute this. Jews are pretty clearly pinned down in the "postwar West" and the states it directly occupies. They aren't expanding from this base, rather they are continually retreating into it and can't generate any coherency within it, either.
>>48705 You are correct. However, when I say "rule the world" I mean in the grand sense, not literally every single country. Akin to how ancient Rome ruled the known world, even though the didn't literally rule every single part of it (not directly ruling Hibernia, Germania, and Caledonia, but still being unchallenged by them) It is true that jewish power is based in the West. Here, sadly, they are not yet challenged. I want to change this. Jewish power at present is not as boomer conservatives imagine elites, being dictators with large police armies. Instead, jewish power is more subtle. They rule through their control over mass media institutions. This is why jews always support liberalization and democracy. Democracy is the most vulnerable kind of system to media control because media power is influencing people and controlling what can and cannot be discussed. In a few hold outs like North Korea and Iran, they have fortified their nation against liberalism and are totally beyond the influence of ZOG. Much like how Scythia was outside of Roman control entirely. Then there are states like China, which interact with jews because they have not closed off their economy. They do allow jews to exploit their people through capitalist corporations. However, they refuse to allow themselves to become liberalized democracies. Thus, the jew is kept at arms length. All this said, places like China, Iran, and North Korea are rare. Most non-Western states collaborate to some extent with the jew. Thailand, Saudi Arabia, India, for example, collaborate with America in order to hem in their geopolitical enemies. And thus, while jewish power is not absolute across the board, the few states not directly ruled by jews are hemmed in by their allies. So you are correct, but this is why I said "effectively" rule the world rather than completely. All non-ZOG'd states are kept in line by America and its allies.
>>48706 >And thus, while jewish power is not absolute across the board, the few states not directly ruled by jews are hemmed in by their allies. >All non-ZOG'd states are kept in line by America and its allies. I think the US has seen a dramatic collapse in its real world hard power capabilities since 2008, so I'm not sure it's the one doing the hemming.
>>48712 >I think the US has seen a dramatic collapse in its real world hard power capabilities since 2008, so I'm not sure it's the one doing the hemming. Don't fall for memes. The US military-industrial complex, while weakened by the poisonous doctrines of jewish liberalism, is still a force to be reckoned with. The "2nd civil war" if it does come, will not be a cakewalk for us. Many of us will die in drone strikes. Maybe me, maybe you. Internationally speaking, the zionist regime is even more powerful. It is true that the Afghans have sent ZOG packing. But only after 20 years of brutal combat in which every American they killed was after at least 20 Afghan patriots. And insurgencies are unwinnable conflicts for conventional armies because in asymmetric warfare, the insurgents have endless targets while the conventional army has few. In the event of China trying to "revolt," here is what would likely happen; The internationalist forces immediately blockade China. Perhaps Chinese missiles are as good as they say and China sinks an American aircraft carrier. Perhaps the trannies and niggers captaining the ships are incompetent enough to allow them to sink another. Huzzah to them. Now China may seize Taiwan. But here is where the problems begin. NATO pulls back, operating from American imperial islands. They maintain the blockade while cruise striking China over and over again. China cannot retaliate effectively, so they must take it. Maybe they retaliate on Japan. Sucks for them, but Japan is not America. Now China has no oil imports and no food imports. Soon, people are starving and China will be forced into a humiliating treaty in order to avert the humanitarian disaster imposed by the blockade (similar to what ZOG did to Iraq) They will evacuate Taiwan. They will pay reparations. They will disarm or demilitarize some regions. Maybe they will free Tibet or Uyghuristan. And the most fatal of all; They will allow for "liberal reform" which is code word for the colonization of China by jews. If they refuse, they will starve. Even though the US army is weakened by liberalism, the US still holds all the cards geopolitically. China lacks a blue water navy and cannot challenge the US more than 50 or perhaps even 100 miles out to sea. China lacks any means of securing their oil and food imports. If you were the dictator of China, would you risk destruction after seeing what the US did to Iraq? Or would you continue biding your time and waiting for the inevitable effects of liberalism to continue sapping away at the strength of the Beast until it implodes on its own?
>>48643 >China has a serious food problem they will need to figure out without sending their army abroad But that's exactly the plan, and they've openly stated as such. In order to avoid civil unrest at home, they're going to shift blame/attention outward and start a massive war. A death toll in the hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would mean nothing to China except fewer mouths to feed and fewer surplus males to become disgruntled over their lot. And if they manage to capture territory, particularly farmland, and foreign women for the 40 million+ Chinese men with no chance of ever getting laid, much less marry, all the better. >>48645 Very much this. The only way to get white normies to quit sitting on the fence is to knock them off of it. Absolute chaos is desirable as it forces them to pick sides and band together for survival. And in a racial conflict, that will absolutely result in them coming to see things our way: in a race war, your skin is your uniform and you can't take it off. Nobody gives a shit if you're "one of the good ones", all they see is a target rich environment. They'll have no choice but to side with their own or die. ACCELERATE C C E L E R A T E >>48646 Fat Harold was a subversive little shit who deliberately undermined every other white nationalist organization, but he got a lot right in his Northwest Front books. One of the things he repeatedly mentions is the need to prevent infighting amongst the NVA members, with standing orders that topics such as religion (the aforementioned "pagan LARPers vs dead kike on a stick" conflict), politics (libertarianism vs fascism vs socialism), etc. were forbidden to be discussed or made a point of contention in the war, and that they focus solely on race and winning the war. After they have a country of their own, then people can sort shit out like what political system to have, religion, etc. but we cannot fight amongst ourselves when we should be fighting for our race and our survival. >We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. ALL OTHER CONCERNS ARE STRICTLY SECONDARY AND ANYONE WHO INSISTS ON BRINGING UP DIVISIVE SHIT ONCE THE CONFLICT STARTS IS EITHER A DUMBASS OR AN INFILTRATOR STIRRING UP TROUBLE, AND DESERVES A BULLET EITHER WAY.
>>48659 >If the chinks love jews, why don't they let them run their country? They effectively do. You do realize the only CCP members who aren't Chinese are all foreign Jews, right? That Mao was set up by Jews? That the Chinese economy was organized by Jews? That Jews are responsible for America cozying up to China and empowering them with money and technology? That Jews are actively aiding and abetting China to this day? Look at all the bullshit leading up the plandemic: everyone responsible for sending Western funding to the Wuhan bioweapons lab is a Jew. Every scientist, doctor, etc. who sent samples of viruses to the lab, even smuggling them illegally, that isn't Chinese is a Jew. Israel started work on a coronavirus vaccine weeks before the outbreak "purely by coincidence". And Israel keeps selling our weapons tech to China on a regular basis, and we just shrug and keep sending them free shekels. China and the Jews are absolutely in bed with each other, and the kikes have spent decades building up China into an enemy to destroy the West. They instigated WW1 to break apart the Russian Empire, the German Empire, and the Austro-Hungarian Empire, they instigated WW2 to break apart Nazi Germany, the British Empire, France, and spread their control over Eastern Europe. They've been building up China to take on America. The Chinese don't care that the Jews are using them because China is rising as a result and they have their own agenda; as soon as the Jews are no longer useful, they'll cut themselves loose of them. The Jews don't care that the Chinese have their own agenda because the kikes don't give two shits about their golems; they've been using the Muslims against Europe for 1,300 years and have allied with them again and again in a war on Christendom and whites, despite the hatred both ethno-religious groups hold for each other. It doesn't matter if they're Muslims, communists, Chinese, or whoever, the Jews will use them as Janissaries to destroy the white race because of 2,000 years of hatred for the Greeks, Romans, Germans, etc.
>>48716 >In order to avoid civil unrest at home, they're going to shift blame/attention outward and start a massive war. How'd that work out for the Russian Empire? > death toll in the hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would mean nothing to China except fewer mouths to feed and fewer surplus males to become disgruntled over their lot This is videogame logic. Massive starvation always leads to political chaos, not order. And you yourself understand that chaos leads to regime change. > Absolute chaos is desirable as it forces them to pick sides and band together for survival. >if they manage to capture territory, particularly farmland Again, videogame logic. Firstly, Taiwan is not much useful farmland. Taiwan is purely an emotional target for the Chinese. Secondly, merely capturing land does not, in real life, make it profitable. War is actually a profit sink for all nations. War only enriches war profiteers, not farmers. >D&C topics were forbidden to be discussed or made a point of contention in the war, and that they focus solely on race and winning the war Exactly. My biggest warning to ourselves is to avoid infighting. All unsuccessful revolutions/insurgencies have one thing in common; factional infighting. It is inevitable, but we must make sure to mitigate it as much as possible because the jewish regime will try to cause it and make us waste our energy and resources murdering each other rather then the (((World Enemy.))) We must not fall for this age old jewish trick. Racial survival > petty squabbles and politiking. If you end up in an organization whose leader conducts attacks against other pro-White organizations over ideological disputes, it is your duty to shoot that man because even if he is not a literal enemy agent (which, he may well be), he is effectively a jewish tool subverting the White struggle against the regime.
>>48673 Yes. It's like the Matrix: Mr Smith can pop up anywhere, and most people aren't ready to be unplugged. It is an unfortunate truth that they will need to be dealt with as enemies along with the actual traitors amongst us. This is true of every civil war.
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>>48720 >1918 Yeah. Like i said.
>>48717 >You do realize the only CCP members who aren't Chinese are all foreign Jews, right? Name one. Reading a list of important Chinese is like... well, like reading a list of Chinese. Let's examine your pics. Robert Kuhn. It is true that Kuhn helped "open up" China and has tried to liberalize the regime as much as possible. However, Kuhn has no direct power over anything in China. No banks, no media institutions, and not the party apparatus. The rest of your examples are either dead kikes or geriatrics with no power. Your next pic is yet more dead people. Jews sell technology to China. Yes. Where are you going with this? Your next pic is the same spammed jewinmaoschina.jpg He is dead. Mao is dead. Can you name someone who is not dead? Please name a single jew with real influence comparable to Mark Zuckerberg, Michael Eisner, Shari Redstone, or even just Bernie Sanders. Just one. Name a single one. What you have done so far is like claiming that Anglos run Israel because they created it. >kikes have spent decades building up China into an enemy to destroy the West. You're half right. They have spent decades building up China to be an illiberal boogieman to keep people like you spooked and loyal to the regime. Jews rule through liberalism. They hate and fear authoritarianism because you cannot control people with secure power bases.
>>48713 We could not see the situation more differently. Agree to disagree.
>>48722 >Jews rule through liberalism. This is what all of their shilling is trying to obscure.
>>48704 again, it is not people but ideologies that run the world, you don't grasp the core of the issue, but that is your call anon
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>>48722 >>48717 Here. See pic related? This is an "American" administration. Show me what the Chinese administration looks like. I'll help you out. The counterpart to (((Janet yelin))) is Liu Kun. A gook. The counterpart to (((Merrick Garland))) is Tang Yijun. A chink. The counterpart to (((Antony Blenken))) is Wang Yi. A slant (the Chinese variety and okay, I'll stop) The counterpart to (((Wendy Sherman))) is Zhu Zhongming. Seems Chinese to me. Where are the jews? You don't like China. Okay. I don't like them either. But you let your feelings cloud your judgement. >>48723 Well, I hope that you are right. I hope I am overestimating the zionist regime. I would rather overestimate them than underestimate them. >>48724 Yes. But it is pretty obvious when literally every jew on earth shills for more liberalism. Is there even a single jew currently alive not pushing for MORE "inclusivity" and "democracy" and "tolerance" and "anti-authoritarianism?" I cannot think of even one.
>>48725 >again, it is not people but ideologies that run the world I don't think anyone outside of idiotic and alienated conservatives believe this.
>>48725 > it is not people but ideologies that run the world Ideologies are almost always just masks for power. If it were purely ideology running the world, why do we always see jews at the spearhead of liberalism and open borders? They do not even allow goyim to head important organizations except in rare circumstances like Rupert Murdoch who is married to a jew and all his administration are jews Yes, you are right that ideology (religion) is a driving force. But Moldbug is wrong that the Cathedral moves without direction. All the major movers in the west are jews. This is no coincidence.
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>>48679 You do realize that's exactly what the Bolsheviks did, right?
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>>48729 Yes. The same old Trust the Plan shit with Qanon.
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>>48702 >It should be obvious, but I will explain further. >Jews effectively rule the world. >Jews are unchallenged in their overlordship. >We are, at present, helpless Helots under the jewish slave-masters. >At present, to our endless shame, we are not capable of successfully revolting against the jewish slave masters. And there it is. The subversive kike, whispering poison into the ears of his betters. >no goy, don't rise up, don't resist, it's hopeless >just wait for two enemies who are working together to destroy you to turn on each other once they achieve victory and no longer need each other, THEN you can fight back >just do nothing and wait for Hitler I hope you meet your end with a short rope and a long drop.
>>48731 >whispering poison into the ears of his betters. Nothing I said was inaccurate in the slightest. >>just do nothing and wait for Hitler I never once said that. I literally said to exploit instability within the regime by any means over and over and over. Why do you lie?
>>48731 >>48732 Hell, you even agreed with me >Very much this. The only way to get white normies to quit sitting on the fence is to knock them off of it. Which is what I said >Absolute chaos is desirable as it forces them to pick sides and band together for survival. And in a racial conflict, that will absolutely result in them coming to see things our way... Why do you lie?
>>48717 very accurate
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>>48718 >How'd that work out for the Russian Empire? Since they never did that... >Massive starvation always leads to political chaos, not order. Anyone with two brain cells can clearly see I'm talking about the death toll from a major war, not starvation. >Again, videogame logic Ok, boomer. >Taiwan is not much useful farmland Did I say Taiwan? China has plenty of neighbors they can annex territory from. >blah blah war is a money pit that enriches profiteers not farmers It's cute the way you think you're making a point. You don't know what you're talking about, don't embarrass yourself further. >D&C topics and infighting must be avoided at all costs >Racial survival > petty squabbles and politiking Now here you have a cogent and valid point. >If you end up in an organization whose leader conducts attacks against other pro-White organizations over ideological disputes, it is your duty to shoot that man because even if he is not a literal enemy agent (which, he may well be), he is effectively a jewish tool subverting the White struggle against the regime. And this bears repeating. As much as Fat Harold got right in his Northwest Front books, he clearly didn't practice what he preached and actively betrayed and subverted every white nationalist movement he wasn't in charge of. Thus, as useful as his fictional series is for educating white nationalists on the conduct of warfare and the avoidance of infighting, Covington himself deserved an appointment with a bullet as he was ultimately undermining any chance the white nationalist movement had. Hell, even Pierce did his share of undermining by constantly attacking Christianity. Religion and other D&C topics must be laid aside in favor of the most important concern of all: THE PRESERVATION OF THE WHITE RACE AND ITS FUTURE. Any other concern is purely secondary and can be sorted out once all our enemies are dead.
>>48722 You're the Chink shill who got all butthurt about the China hate thread showing what subhuman savages the Chinese are, aren't you.
>>48736 >Hell, even Pierce did his share of undermining by constantly attacking Christianity. Religion and other D&C topics must be laid aside It's always a one-way street on who has to lay what aside. Christianity isn't pro-White, it's anti-White. Nobody really cares the function it served in medieval France at this point. We have to take the institution and the people who comprise it as they are.
>>48732 >No goy, I never said the things I said, you're lying! >Don't scroll up to the post where I said it's impossible for us to fight back and we have to let our enemies win and turn on each other before we can fight back, that's antisemitic
>>48736 >they never did that... Russia went to war After 4 years of fighting and hunger, the instability lead to the overthrow of the entire government. Starvation never unites people behind the government. And China would know that better than anyone since ALL the dynastic revolutions occurred during periods of famine. >I'm talking about the death toll from a major war, not starvation. You are responding to a prediction that blockade of China = mass starvation. >China has plenty of neighbors they can annex territory from. Name one which has enough land to feed 1.3 billion people. > You don't know what you're talking about You demonstrate the opposite. You argue with emptions and lies. See >>48731 I explain in detail what and why and how. >>48737 I actually have not posted in that thread so far as I remember. Nice jewish strawman though.
>>48737 Not speaking for the other guy, but no one cares if you don't like China or the Chinese. The push back is about conservatives trying to send people on a wild goose chase far away from the source of the problem -- which is the primary task of conservatism in general, no matter the issue.
>>48738 So what you're saying is that you need a bullet too for propagating D&C.
>>48739 >lies Cite where I said what you claim I said. >I said it's impossible for us to fight back I said >At present, to our endless shame, we are not capable of successfully revolting against the jewish slave masters. Do you dispute this? Where are the pro-White organizations? Where are the pro-White insurgents? Where is any kind of real not online resistance against the regime?
>>48742 You think the D&C rises to the level of plunging Western civilization into a war for jewish interests just so it matches up with your Scofield Bible?
>>48742 Oh fuck off. Dr. Pierce almost never even talked about Christianity. He did far more to unite us against the jew than you have done. If you had your way, you would shoot us all and you would be the only """pro-White""" left.
>>48740 Why do you lie? You claimed Russia went to war to distract the people from civil unrest that would lead to collapse, I said it never happened, and now you're moving the goalposts to "they went to war for completely different reasons and it led to civil unrest". >You are responding to a prediction that blockade of China = mass starvation. And they will go to war and suffer mass casualties long before hunger kills that many people. Fewer mouths to feed = more food for the ones who didn't die in the war. More seized territory and resources = more ways to feed their people. Particularly if they blame the starvation on the people blockading trade into their country and direct anger at them. It's been done numerous times in history. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But since the Chinese flat out said they would go to war rather than risk civil unrest leading to regime change, my assumption is that they'll at least consider it. >Name one which has enough land to feed 1.3 billion people They don't need to feed 1.3 billion people. They need to feed however many survive the war. >You argue with emotions and lies What emotion? You keep lying, shifting the goalposts, and arguing in bad faith. >Nice jewish strawman though. And there it is, "call the other guy a kike before he calls you a kike." A shill hallmark. >>48741 We're discussing China sending weapons to different factions in a civil war, and taking advantage of said civil war to grab territory. The fact that the Chinks are subhuman bugmen worth of extinction is factual, but unimportant to the discussion. Notice how this thread is being D&Ced more and more now?
>>48731 he is the same kike shill who was shilling on nein, some things never change
>>48746 >You claimed Russia went to war to distract the people from civil unrest that would lead to collapse They did. There were other reasons, but the Tsar foolishly believed that a war would unite the people behind his regime. >they will go to war and suffer mass casualties long before hunger kills that many people You have a videogame understanding of real world conflicts. Most people do not die on the battlefield. >Fewer mouths to feed = more food for the ones who didn't die in the war. Again, this is childishly stupid. War = disruption of normal society = less of everything being produced. > More seized territory and resources = more ways to feed their people. Again, videogame rules. In reality, war is extraordinarily expensive and all seized territory ends up too destroyed to be worth anything for years. The real world is not HOI4. >arguing in bad faith. >>>48731 >"call the other guy a kike before he calls you a kike." >that makes you a shill >>>48731 The funny thing is I didn't even call you a jew even when you began screaming that things THAT YOU AGREED WITH make me a jew. I said it is a jewish strawman. I can see how in your hyper emotional state you would interpret that, but I am saying that the act is jewish since the way you argue is identical to how upset liberals and jews argue.
>>48747 Wrong again. I have never even posted on 9chan. But many of the threads on 16/pol/ are mine.
>>48736 >the most important concern of all: THE PRESERVATION OF THE WHITE RACE AND ITS FUTURE. Any other concern is purely secondary and can be sorted out once all our enemies are dead this is vital in order not to fall in divide and conquer tactics
So many stupid shills. YES, GENETICS MATTER. YES, RACES RUN THE WORLD AND NOT IDEOLOGIES AND YES BEING WHITE IS THE ONLY GOOD RACE. FUCK ANY OTHER RACE. Fucking chink shills here trying to think that chinks are based.
>>48755 >Fucking chink shills here trying to think that chinks are based. The only one who said that ITT was you. Jews strawman. Are you jewish?
Go to the deep web imagebpards, people are discussing the real shit there right now.
>>48785 yeah, the "real shit" like pedophilia. this has an onion url lol... people talking about real revolutionary shit aren't using fed telecoms period nerd.
>>48785 Links?
>>48786 Typical anti tor shill, using the demand for moral purity among white nationalists to control our behavior, just as the leaked documents said. The fact that Pedos use it is a point in its favor. Regardless of the illicit proclivities of the elites, its clear that they want exclusive ownership over child abuse as a tool control or some shit like that. Fact remains that for most pedofags among the masses, child pornography is still very much illegal, and that they use tor to cover their asses os a sign that the network has value, even of it was made by feds, jews, and sjws. Yeah, I have misgivings about it as well, which is why I am interested in the creation and implementation of superior alternatives to tor and to the internet itself. So let's use the best tools available to us right now in order to develop better tools down the line. If there is a specific problem.with tor, let's us hear it, otherwise, there is no argument and your statements baselessly encouraging us to ditch using anonymity and stay here where everyone can see our activity can be ignored. Last thing, the internet is also run by feds, sjws, and jews, and your computer comes from the enemy as well, so why not do us all a favor, and cut your internet, then throw out your computer?
>>48835 You completely missed his point
>>48835 Nice essay. Fact of the matter is only retards premeditate what would be considered criminal activity over telecoms.
>>48842 Who's to say that what I'm supporting is illegal? I merely said "real shit" and that it shouldn't be discussed on the surface web. Let me ask you a question, because so.ethimg I really bothering me here. It seems that you have no issue with talking about /pol/ stuff on the surface web, but you object to using the deep web to do it, even though all the reasons you give apply even more to the surface than the networks that lie beneath. But when I challenge you guys on that point, all of a sudden you object to communicating on the internet about it at all, and you assume that the communications will be about planning terrorism, even though I said nothing of the sort. It's like you will say anything to keep /pol/ activity from moving onto encrypted networks. Care to explain?
>>48845 My explanation is you are ESL. This site already has an onion. I'm not talking about anything specific and I wouldn't do that in the same room as any telecommunication device if I ever were to. Speaking on specifics over telecommunication is foolish regardless of how tight you think your encryption is. "Real shit" would be specific plans. You don't need encryption to talk about the average pol tripe.
>>48846 Specific plans =/= plotting illegal activity
>>48866 Doesn't matter, just as easily infiltrated by glowniggers if you are discussing them over wire in any capacity.
I wonder if you can recruit any disgruntled veterans due to Afghan Evac into starting a paramilitary group à la Weimar era Freikorp. Helping delegitimize the ZOG and its monopoly on violence. Not outright destruction of infrastructure, not outright civil war but a supplanting of executive force.
>>49149 To do that, you probably need to be a vet. Why would a vet listen to a civilian who did not fight about military matters? This point is unpopular, but correct. The vast majority of revolutionaries were already in the army before doing something. Hitler, Napoleon, Franco, etc. all had popularity in the army, even people like Santa Anna and Andrew Jackson got acclaim before taking power. The most likely way of winning is to join the army, become a general, win a war, then launch a coup. We have to hope someone ideologically aligned is already at the general stage. Otherwise you are best suited just bombing banks and guerilla warfare. Militias won't work offensively, the tech deficit is too much to overcome in a real war.
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>>49388 >launch a coup that is what trump should have done if he really had been a nationalist
>>49391 If Trump wasn't a little nigger with a jewish dick up his butt he would never been allowed anywhere near the jewish party #2 aka republicans.
>>48785 Yeah, discussing. That what is always amounts to. Nothing more than discussions.
>>49149 I'm skeptical of the kind of people who would motivated by exiting an imperial frontier that was invaded under patently false pretenses after the US was attacked by israel and Straussians embedded in the intelligence services and MIC.
>>49391 All you would have gotten is a Zionist dictator in the White House, all to supposedly apply a democratic election that was stolen. Can it get even gayer than this? Any true WN knows democracy is a tool of the Jews.
>>49444 then explain why was he banned from social media
>>49454 That's a borderline non-sequitur. He wasn't even edgy enough to be considered controlled opposition. Getting banned from pointless trash like social media doesn't legitimize anybody lol.
The thing is, with that first map, if Balkanization really happens then state lines will be meaningless. We can get some information from that first map but not much. This map would be more useful, I think, for determining the new 'state lines' and countries. Though I doubt Balkanization will ever occur and really only China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Venezuela, etc etc and on and on...benefit from pushing this 'acceleration' meme. Acceleration? The federal government will never be weak enough to allow it to come to an end. So, 'acceleration' just means being a pain in the ass and diverting resources away from international affairs and shitting the bed', making things worse for you, your offspring, and your neighbors. That China and Russia would do the same as the CIA has done to countless other countries seems like a no-brainer to me. See: "Thousands attended protest organized by Russians on Facebook" (TheHill) https://archive.is/NE5tq Where thousands attend anti and pro-BLM protests and beat the snot out of each other, all organized by cozy Ruskies on the other side of the world. That was 2016? Was a success. Surely they, and other countries, have only increased funding for such activities and information warfare.
>>49454 All part of the zog and trannie show.
>>49454 He's still appearing on zog media like faux news and grifting on retarded boomers making it look like he'll run again, trying to strong-arm various social media companies into banning criticism of jews, etc. If the regime wanted, nobody would hear of him again.
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>>49396 He hijacked it while it was in a weakened state. Remember, the last sucessful GOP candidate by 2016 was George W Bush! And Trump's main rival was Jeb! Bush! Jeb! ffs. Even then they tried the old tactic of flooding the debate stage with people to drown out his voice (did the same in 2020 with DNC primary to drown out Yang and Sanders). Trump was comfortable enough in front of a camera to understand, call it out, take charge of the debates. He also benefitted from having a 'day job' that didn't depend on his winning, or even looking good, in the debates. Anyways, something happened, clearly, after he was elected. He went from White advocate to hiring and doing pressers with tokens to 'show he wasn't racist'. "Trump says 'more white people' are killed by police, while studies show Black people are more likely to be killed" https://archive.is/hTHtM And etc. Still, he showed that the Uniparty can be defeated. His election, regardless of outcome, was a *huge* awakening for America and the world. Easy to sit back and shit all over Trump. Where does it get us? Back at defeatism and giving up on politics altogether. >"omg you still vote!!!!!! lawl!" Hell yeah I still vote. But I don't have some naive expectation that ...they aren't choosing and angling way before their selections for primary candidates even comes around for the game-show, slanted, leaked-question, farcical debates happen. Anyways, Mad Max and Walking Dead and The Survivalist are all fine and interesting fantasies. It's good to be prepared no matter what happens. But only Democrats benefit from us giving up on politics, going 'back innawoods', or even really falling into what Martin Sellner called the 'Nazi gulag.' Though a few here seem to have placed yourself right inside their trap long ago. (Or, are intel shills.)
>>49495 Trump was backed by Sheld*n Adels*n, a zionist vice-mongering kike who was one of his biggest donors. Nothing happened after the election. He was never an 'outsider'. It was his 2016 campaign that was an act.
>>49495 He was never a "white advocate," not even for a single moment in his entire life. He was always a spoiled rich kid surrounded by jews. "White advocates" don't marry their own children off to jews nor do they speak fondly of Israel (and this isn't something that started late into his office, nor did the pandering to BASED AND REDPILLED NIGGERS for that matter). If you try to work within the system, the most you are going to get is le btfo libtards ebin style. Maybe that appeals to you, seeing LGBTQP and brown retards screeching, but it does fucking nothing toward halting white suicide.
>>49495 >Easy to sit back and shit all over Trump. Where does it get us? Back at defeatism and giving up on politics altogether. Admitting that Trump was in leagues with the jews and sold us out doesn't lead to defeatism. Real low IQ conclusion there. And giving up on politics is a good thing when there is no political solution left so that you aren't stuck in an OODA loop forever chasing ghosts.
>>49490 >really only China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Venezuela, etc etc and on and on...benefit from pushing this 'acceleration' meme. shill or just dumb?
>>49495 They are starting up the same narratives and shill patterns they were using in 2018 and 2020. They really want you to keep dumping time and energy into zion don.
>>49400 You're retarded. How the hell do backwater darkie shitholes benefit from White Man Summer accelerationism? Here's how it works: Jews support living of non-whites. So when jews go bye bye, so do our beloved people of colour. Or you're a shill and you desperate.
>>49514 Meant for >>49490 >you desperate Apologies, it's you're*. Now I sound like a woke NLDM shaniqua.
>>49514 Your post is a complete non-sequitur. You are a bot.
>>49514 In a more realistic sense, no none-whites in any Western country have actually seen suffering on any wide scale. The closest things to it are American natives and black slaves - but which is more disturbing in it's nature, a plantation or the Argonne offensive? The second there's upset, most of these none-whites will fucking leg it. They don't have the stomach to handle something like Passchendaele or Leningrad.
>>49388 I agree with needing veteran status in order to stir up the military current or former, but I disagree that you need such a high ranking military officer such as a General. Specifically if they rose within the military through education like West Point rather than combat. Honestly I doubt any high ranking COs such as the "Joint Chiefs of Staff" are with us following the "white rage" comments and the cracking down of any of our guys within the military. As for the militias not being able to mount any offensives, I don't buy that, destruction of infrastructure is a lot simpler than its upkeep as are plots against enemy members. The spreading of specialized small forces gives far more flexibility than a slow lumbering army encumbered by red tape full of incompetent leadership even if they have tech beyond any militia's dream. I would say it would be impossible to mount large scale offensives such as taking cities once they're being actively defended by those loyal to the ZOG. We're in a precarious position but not an impossibility. My biggest fear is infiltration by cucked faggots that are blind to the larger race and cultural questions. If not we will just get a decade or two reset. At this point I don't really fear fed glow niggers as they have shown a complete lack of intelligence unable to find boomers that went inside the capitol hill building and asking the public (via Facebook) for help in finding them. Really the cia and fbi are shells of their former selves. Be wary, practice OpSec but don't have this imaginary belief of their omnipresence, they became too dependent on technology over human skill. >>49419 I don't want to sound rude but you either don't understand as to why any veterans would be outraged or are being disingenuous. The short answer is the complete fuck up that was the US evacuation. The US at this moment is at its weakest: Economically, Militarily, Politically it looks like a complete systemic collapse. The only thing saving the US at this moment ironically (for myself at least) is the petrodollar but that won't last much longer.
>>49685 >>49685 >My biggest fear is infiltration by cucked faggots that are blind to the larger race and cultural questions. Not hard to do if you can guarantee a lot of ghettoes being damaged beyond repair. Only a small contingent could operate under the Dehousing policies of the RAF. This is also hinted at in the famous "Tom" situation in that copypasta. "Tom" fixed the Southern USA's crime rate by, obviously, deporting all the niggers Eastwards, causing massive problems for the state as they had to handle the displaced niggers. The open-minded nature of the "lemming" will be easy to use, since once they gather information to see where the wind is blowing, they will turn and become even more radical than you. Once the ball is rolling, cucked faggots are going to see some issues - let's say, USA, somebody decides to route the niggers of Georgia into Atlanta only, burning down every neighbourhood in the state outside of the capital. Not only will the quality of life and rebel control of an area skyrocket, the quality of life and state control of the areas which the niggers are forced to will deplete rapidly, as they find themselves fighting a two-front war. Herding foreigners is a winning strategy, and would work in most countries - the UK, for example, can be herded into atleast three (West Midlands, North-West, London) distinct zones, starting in the countryside and pushing unwanted groups into the already-packed urban centers of Birmingham, Manchester and East London.
>>49685 >I don't want to sound rude but you either don't understand as to why any veterans would be outraged or are being disingenuous. I'm not being disingenuous and I understand exactly why military/veteran types would be upset. What I'm saying is that I am skeptical their outrage would actually lead to anything productive or beneficial to European-Americans since the empire that they are angry over losing is the exact thing that is killing our people.
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>>49695 While true moderacy is pushed to the brink in a civil conflict it's not impossible for a political movement to be destroyed from within. Be it those that have sympathetic views ideologically or "morally", For example they hold the old standards as temporarily flawed rather than uprooting its foundation and creating a new system which transcends the old or those that view victory as permanent state ignorant to the changes to the greater populace's ideals either from internal or external interlopers. Take for example the Spanish Falange and how with the death of Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera its political identity died it was then usurped and molded from its former beliefs by Francisco Franco into more moderate reactionary views. The death of the former ideologically motivated Blue Shirts with a vastly larger new group "new shirts". Still the "tom/racial displacement" policy would be great as not only would it be seen as sympathetic but create internal turmoil inside of enemy strongholds. >>49700 I still think your way of thinking is wrong. They aren't angry the US is leaving Afghanistan rather its execution. If the US left Germany and Japan tomorrow nobody in the US (with few exceptions) would be upset with that policy. The death of the US world police is nigh and with it comes goes moderate political parties. Neo-cons/war hawks lost the foreign policy the US held post ww2 is gone, "homogloblo" is at its precipice, their positions are null. Afghanistan shows what will become of the world once US no longer cares about democratizing nations. As to what I believe if your second critique even if a military junta doesn't bring about the change we would want it would create a more hospitable environment for further radicalization. Also there is a clear difference in military personnel what I would call a "patriots" and Nationalist. With those that are against this government's failures falling more in line with Nationalist ideas than patriotic ones. "Patriotic" becoming to mean one that supports the government, and Nationalist as one that supports its ethic people. However those opinions can be changed just like Economic Nationalism is the new norm. Fear of foreign economic control, a disillusionment with globalization and its race to the bottom. Even if centralized banking currently escapes our grasp that won't survive without it's puppet government. While there are many challenges still facing our path they are completely within reach even more so if a civil war starts, At this point I would say communication between us and veterans exchanging of views (political) and intelligence (warfare) would greatly benefit us with few repercussions.
>>48261 what is the second image referring to?
A Modest Proposal: At the top of the Board masthead area we should have a 'Civil War Doomsday Clock' like the one on The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, but set to the current risk of civil war in America. Example: this weeks' vaXX attacks by Uncle Joe Xi-den dialed up the risk massively, so right now we could be "3 minutes to Midnight". Maybe admins could set it up so all users could vote weekly on current risk probability(?)
>>50210 Sounds gay desu. How about we do push-ups instead
>>50210 >Uncle Joe Xi-den Stop embarrassing yourself, conservative.
Don't compare your filthy jew nigger president to the wise and fair great leader of China, you dumb fuck. Xi Jinping is the leader of the free world.
>>50234 Wake me up when Xi Jinping is gassing kikes
>>50234 kys rice nigger
>>50234 Fuck off you commie jew nigger. Chinks are the blueprint for the entire West, UN blue helmet jew world order chinks are coming to North America to instill martial law.
>>50276 Holy Kek, if there were ever a post deserving of an 'ok boomer'. China will just be happy to have the US out of the way. They have a whole continent maybe two if they want Africa as badly as they seem to to conquer before they give a fly's ass about North American lands.
>>50276 When the jews are done with you, you'll wish China was the blueprint, jew nigger.
>>49495 Voting is utterly pointless, elections have been electronically rigged since they shot jfk
>>50684 exacly
>>50685 OFF TOPIC
>>49495 >only Democrats benefit from us giving up on politics I and other democracy-skeptics are not suggesting that we all try to abandon society and live in the woods. But what do we gain from trying to play a rigged game? No one pro-White will ever be allowed anywhere near the levers of power and while you claim that Trump was pro-White during the election, you yourself admit that his actions were anti-White. Actions speak louder than words. Trump was never our friend.
>>49500 >Maybe that appeals to you, seeing LGBTQP and brown retards screeching, but it does fucking nothing toward halting white suicide. This.
>>49490 >only China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Venezuela, etc etc and on and on...benefit from pushing this 'acceleration' meme. Also White people. White people benefit. Can't have that!
>>49495 >Easy to sit back and shit all over Trump. Where does it get us? Anon the 2016 support Trump got from /pol/ was a giant shitpost on our behalf, get that into your head. He was never /ourguy/ he was the "we don't want Hillary and want to see the establishment butthurt" candidate. If he had a chance of winning we would have supported Vermin Supreme to make them look stupid. You don't win by supporting the current establishment, each party is just one side of the shekel. To win against them you have to deny them your time, your money, your attention and work power and apply it to our cause directly.
>>50277 You're an illiterate, ignorant retard. China was conquered by jews long ago, the only difference is the jew succeeded in destroying their resistance and desire for freedom then. All that's left are soulless order following commie chink cunts who think a social credit system is "good for society".
>>50280 >When the jews are done with you, you'll wish China was the blueprint, jew nigger. How fucking vapid are you? China is the blueprint: -The concentration camps for dissidents -The social credit system -The facial recognition cameras -Fluctuating prices and privileges for citizens based on obedience to emperor Winnie the pooh Take your head out of your asshole and smell the origin of the shit. It all came from China since it was the jews testing ground for their control schemes.
>>50756 >>50757 >muh chyna reeeeee China shit is a misdirection tactic- A jew trick distracting you from the blatant domestic jewish rule and oppression by throwing a hypothetical, fake and homosexual threat in front of you And btw, nice homosexual list you made there, here's another one: >oikophobia >unchecked, mass immigration >faggotry >transgenderism >anti-white racism >afrocentrism >attacking our history, heritage, and culture >dismantling family values >stifling free speech >taking away free and fair elections >pedophile jews >"""vaccine""" passports >etc. Conclusion: Anyone still defending ZOGnited states and tries to redirect anger toward China is a fednigger or a kike doing damage control or a sub 80-IQ senile boomer, that can't accept that murrica is no longer a habitable country. And if you want to talk about "the HECKING chinese are the REAL ZOG!" Show me the chinese equivalent for AIPAC. Show me the chinese equivalent for ADL, which is a kike organization formed to get a kike pedo off jail,which is now the kike organization designed to ruin everyone being mildly critical of kikes. Show me the last 4 out of 5 general secretaries blatantly marrying their children off to kikes, like the ZOGnited states presidents marry their children off to rich and powerful kikes Show me China sending 38 billion in military aid to pissreal. Show me Chinese media being owned by kikes. Until then, fuck off.
>>50757 >China is the blueprint: You're extremely bluepilled and new. China is not the blueprint. America is. Jews do not like utilizing authoritarian dictatorships anymore because they have realized that liberalism is far more destructive to race than authoritarian nationalists. This is why jews always push for more democracy. They do this in China too. You are a conservative, not redpilled and certainly not a real nationalist of any sort.
>>50766 They know. They're getting more hysterical the more it fails to take root. The whole idea was that China would be a perpetual manufacturing slave state and failing that, the last generation of White men would die in an Asian land war to bring them into line. Getting burned on both ends was not something judaism inc. was prepared for. Little Schlomo and Sanjay can go get on a gunboat themselves. Give Sgt. Ledarious our regards.
>>50775 >Little Schlomo and Sanjay can go get on a gunboat <broke: fighting for kikes <woke: letting other shitskons countries fight for themselves <bespoke: gang up and blast all kinds of shitskin monkeys to hell Don't let them fight their own wars. muh isolationism/separate lands oooo. We must manipulate them and when they're weak, BAM. White militias get them and conquering is back on the menu.
>>50776 Unfortunately, we are too weak at this time to even drive the shitskins from our own homes. Global genocide is like fantasizing about becoming the president of the US when you're a dirt poor nobody from rural Montana.
>>50778 >too weak at this time to even drive the shitskins from our own homes Patently untrue. We still outnumber them, and we're infinitely better at war than they are. Literally all it would take to annihilate and drive them from our homelands is the will to do so. Spain was occupied for 700 years and they left almost zero impact on the genetics, language, and culture in the region when they were finally driven out. Why do you think today would be as bad as that, especially since our homelands are occupied by squabbling, competing races and ethno-religious groups rather than a single, united group as in Spain? Anyone saying we're too weak to drive them out of our lands is either blackpilled or a demoralization shill. Either way, keep that shit to yourself and let the ones who actually intend to do something do so without Wormtongue whispering in their ears.
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>>50801 >Anyone saying we're too weak to drive them out of our lands is either blackpilled or a demoralization shill. Either way, keep that shit to yourself and let the ones who actually intend to do something do so without Wormtongue whispering in their ears. This, this is the most pathetic invasion attempt in history. We are pathetic for not ending it switfly. All of us. >>50770 >they have realized that liberalism is far more destructive to race than authoritarian nationalists. This is why jews always push for more democracy. They do this in China too. Well said.
>>50811 Monarchy >united identity under a single banner >all citizens are brothers >the king may be competent and beloved, or incompetent and evil, but we're all in this together >incompetent or corrupt rules are removed for the good of the nation >unification under a single ruler ensures consistent policy and stability for the lifespan of the ruler >changes and policies can be implemented more efficiently with a single head of state directing everything according to his vision >average lifespan of a monarchy: 1,000+ years Democracy >us vs them >divides everyone along party lines, ideological lines, religious lines, etc. >incompetent and corrupt politicians are the rule, not the exception >elections on a regular basis create instability as different politicians take power, undo the previous leader's policies and implement their own, then get replaced in turn; inconsistent direction and leadership >allows outsiders to infiltrate and assume positions of power, eventually changing laws to benefit them at the expense of the actual people of the nation; turns politics into nothing more than a racial headcount >legislation and political parties are less about the good of the nation and the people and more about each special interest group grabbing a slice of the pie for themselves, voting in their interest and not that of others, and everyone vying for free goodies at the expense of others >average lifespan of a republic/democracy: 200 years The choice is clear. Democracy is fine and good on a local level, but at the national level, monarchy is clearly superior.
>>50841 Jesus, almost everything you say about monarchy is wrong. <>united identity under a single banner People in monarchies historically feel almost no sense of loyalty to the distant, often foreign born monarch. That is why monarchies are the number one easiest thing for communists to overthrow. You claim that there is some sort of magical loyalty that I should feel to the degenerate aristocrat sitting on a gold chair. Yet you never are able to articulate what motivates me or anyone else to bootlick someone who did nothing to deserve his power. <>all citizens are brothers Oh, that happens alright. Brothers against the fop in charge. Historically, monarchies generally create an us vs them between the upper classes and the vastly superior in number lower classes. Since absolutist idiots like to drive out public participation in anything, what you get is an aristocratic oligarchy led by a king incestuously catering to their own needs and ignoring the people and nation until the people get tired of it and overthrow them. Sadly, right wingers tend to stupidly attach themselves to the most odious and unpopular kings, thus ceding all ground to communists. Monarchy is the killed of right wingers because of this critical flaw in thinking. <>the king may be competent and beloved, or incompetent and evil, but we're all in this together Nice meaningless propaganda. Jews say the same thing every day about everything they're pushing. It's trite propaganda. <>unification under a single ruler ensures consistent policy and stability for the lifespan of the ruler Stability, eh? Yet the more absolutist the monarchies, the less stable they get. Weird. See Russia, Austria, and late Bourbon France. <>changes and policies can be implemented more efficiently with a single head of state directing everything according to his vision In reality, what you generally get is stagnation until the left figures out how to hide their obsessive and alienating social agenda long enough to rally the people to depose the monarch. Absolutism and stagnation are synonymous. If right wingers were smarter, they'd be the first to turn on the monarchy because their ideals appeal more to the conservative people than leftist ideals do. But out of desperation, the people will eventually support leftists if it means getting rid of the odious and alienating king. <>average lifespan of a monarchy: 1,000+ years Yes. When there was no alternative. Yet, curiously, the second there was an alternative, monarchs fell like dead flies. Power actually does rest with the people. Monarchs cynically appeal to Yahweh as their reason for ruling. But the truth is that guns are always more powerful than prayer or jewish gods. Guns in the hands of the people charged with rage at being ignored for decades leads to many dead monarchs and the pedophile priests who said that God supported their rule. Monarchy has historically been the enemy of nationalism because they understood that the people are the ultimate authority and feared allowing their nations to progress beyond the stagnation of the feudal era. In short, monarchists do nothing but appeal to flowery but completely meaningless phrases and need to ignore their own history in order to present an acceptable face for their dead ideology. Monarchies fear nationalism and seek to keep their people disconnected and ignorant. This leads to communism and communism will always win over a monarchy. Literally every single conflict between communists and monarchists ends with a communist victory because no one likes these decrepit traitors. The only instances where a monarchy can cling onto power is when fascists step up and defend them. But the second that the monarch has the opportunity, they always betray the nation and side with capitalists, democrats, or even actual communists to stop fascism. Monarchs like the king of Romania and Italy actually sided with communists who they knew would overthrow them rather than support their nation in a time of war.
>>50850 I say all this because there is historically no more effective way to kill a movement than to become a monarchist. It is a dead ideology. It died extremely quickly the second there was an alternative. It lives on only in the hearts of Paradox game fans. And since it is dead in the real world, there is no realistic way to even achieve it again. Who would become king in a country like America? Trump? Which brings me to another point; Literally every single aristocrat is a degenerate anti-White who openly collaborates with jews to kill their own people. Their degree of treason is astounding because they actually diminish their own power and assets merely because they like jews better than their own subjects. It's incredible, really. It is the exact opposite of what poor former monarchists like me used to say monarchy would bring. They make personal sacrifices simply to destroy their own nations. They all must be put to death. They are all enemies of our race.
>>50850 >>50851 The monarchy thing comes from (((claremont/moldbug))) types.
>>50851 It lives on in Saudi Arabia in the form of an extremely corrupt, immoral and degenerate oil family that's totally in bed with jewish swine, zog and globohomo. That's monarchy for you.
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>>50852 Indeed. Almost every monarchist fan that you see here sounds extremely autistic. They do not envision or even conceiver of people as being anything more than automatons. Just like in games. As for moldbug fans, when they suggest that we make media jews grand dukes and bishops as a jest, then they are making a valid point about the nature of power. But this thing where they begin to take this ideology seriously is absolutely silly. And it is telling that they simultaneously cite life in the middle ages as their proof that monarchy would work today (and citing a romanticized version of our history as well). Monarchy looks very nice in an anime or in a paradox game. It functions well when everyone is an automaton and there is no nationalism, populism, or communism. But out here in the real world, it just doesn't work. It died a natural death because it was weak. Now that the people are literate and can make or get guns, the old system no longer functions and we must fully embrace nationalism as our guiding principle for human government. >>50853 That too. I was mainly referring to Europe, but the monarchs of other nations are just as treasonous as our own. The second that the Al Sauds are no longer able to fund their American backed p0lice state, they will be eaten alive by their people. Maybe literally.
>>50853 >implying that sandniggers being swindled is a bad thing Let them fuck one another up.
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This MEGA link has practically everything you need to start a civil war and WIN IT. https://mega.nz/folder/QgtzBAiS#EoUPbvhQDLy0MFKKXcB7Jg https://mega.nz/folder/QgtzBAiS#EoUPbvhQDLy0MFKKXcB7Jg
>>50869 You are 100% to end up on some faggot's radar by downloading shit like this. >ragnar benson's c4 and other books Go to libgen or some other archival free-use website and download copies of out-of-print and out-of-copyright volatile organics chemistry books, for fucks sake. Only a retard would trust any "archives" on sites like mega (fucking lol) that contain obvious red flag titles like "lol just build a submachine gun and c4 bro lol." If you truly believe you're under ubiquitous surveillance (you are), fucking act like it.
>>50874 Mega works just fine with tor.
>>50875 >tor will save you from your stupidity Anon, I...
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As society gets worse, and worse authority will get weaker as well, and our jobs will become a lot more easier.
>>50874 I shart on feds all day long, bro. Those evil criminal pedophiles don't warrant this paranoia. They spend all their time masturbating to furry porn at the office.
>>50850 >monarchies only last a thousand years because no other system existed until the 20th century! >republics were invented in bronze age Greece You're a fucking idiot with zero knowledge about history, writing a fucking book to prove how retarded you are.
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>>50904 >You're a fucking idiot with zero knowledge about history >Doesn't comprehend the fact that >1. monarchies tended to be extremely unstable even in the middle ages, the age the LARPing monarchists masturbate to >2. just because a democracy existed in fucking Athens 1000 years earlier doesn't mean that some peasant in Christian England had any meaningful choice to magically transform his country into iron age Greece How does one even respond to such reckless stupidity? He actually thinks that he has a firm grasp of history, yet he thinks like a 12 year old.
>>50936 1) The Interregnum would like to speak to you. As would the French Republics, the Italian republics, the Roman Republic (both of them), and numerous other examples, nearly all of which were short-lived. 2) Why the fuck would most peasants WANT to overthrow the monarchy and establish a democracy? Shit, most of Europe was ruled by monarchies until WW1, when the Jews destroyed the German Empire, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Russian Empire, etc. and banned/murdered the nobility (the stabilizing force for ethnonationalism and European identity) and established democracies like Weimar so they could take over.
>>50874 >>50883 You do know that 16chan is on every federal watchlist that exists, right? Why kvetch about a bunch of pdfs that have been posted around imageboards for years? Spreading FUD about Tor is also a common fed tactic. And if you're worried about mega these files can probably be found on libgen.
>>50952 >these examples want to speak to you They can chat with the Venetian Republic, the Swiss, and the Athenian democracy. Also, the Italian Republicans and Roman one were extremely long lived. They lasted longer than almost any monarchist dynasty. >Why the fuck would most peasants WANT to overthrow the monarchy and establish a democracy? Because the monarch is a twat who caters to the wants of the rich oligarchy rather than the needs of the peasants. Because the monarch is a staunch anti-nationalist. Because the monarch is a foreign born fop who doesn't even speak the language of the people he rules. Because there is no reason whatsoever for a peasant to want to be living in an inherently anti-nationalist oligarchy beyond cucked conservatism. >most of Europe was ruled by monarchies until WW1 Yes, and this was despite constant rebellions to overthrow them. But eventually, the people amassed enough guns to succeed. >the stabilizing force for ethnonationalism and European identity Absolute bullshit. Foreign born playboys and incompetents had nothing to do with nationalism and openly shilled against it. If you genuinely believe that without these rich cunts we would have no identity, then you are yourself an anti-nationalist. Even jews don't insult us as much as you do. Our identities preceded these rich cunts and survived their attempts to crush our identity and replace it with mindless loyalty to the state.
>>50952 The aristocracy were the jews before the jews took over. They were an openly rootless tribe of globalistic cunts who were more loyal to each other than to the nations they ruled. They were staunch anti-nationalists who were effectively a non-European race since they treated the Europeans they ruled over as foreign subjects. There is nothing nationalistic about wanting to be ruled by rootless jews who marry within their own tribe while excluding the Europeans they rule over. They extracted wealth from us and invested it in their pet projects in Africa and India. Or in their palaces while the rest of the country lived in dirt homes. But claiming that our ancient identities would not exist if not for the parasitical aristocratic oligarchies is the most extreme form of lie.
>>48351 >it is more dangerous to have a white traitor in office like Trump than a nigger like Harris or whatever because it is easier for him to cheat his fellow whites This, Harris has to watch what she does or says and it shows, she has to play both sides and try not to antagonize white men too much. Trump gave 0 fucks.
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The question of restoring Germany's power is not, How can we manufacture arms? but: How can we produce that spirit which enables people to bear arms? Once this spirit prevails among a people, then the will finds a thousand ways - each of which ends in a weapon! But a coward won't fire even a single shot when attacked, even though he may have ten pistols. For him they are of less value than a knarled stick in the hands of a courageous man. Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf
>>48258 The Deep State will return trump if they deem it too explosive to control.
>>48397 Think bigger. It is not about grift. Trump is being used as a plan B. If shit starts to smell to bad, the DS will attempt to return to "election fraud uncovered lets recount" narrative and will reinstall Trump.
>>48397 time to develop a heart attack gun, then.. in Call of Duty, of course. Essentially it needs a gauss gun, and a projectile with some sort of easily available toxin that stops heart from beating. Then 3D print it, add electric components and test it.
>>48618 whites have no problem with shitskins until those start to get lippy or threaten white way of life
>>48679 russian communists were jews..who were backed by european "banks" of jesuits.
>>51508 >>51509 >two more weeks, A YEAR LATER Fuck off, retard.
>>51508 >>51509 'Deep State' 'Global Elite' There sure are lots of hollow, bullshit names for filthy, disgusting fucking jews aren't there? Anytime anyone sees a post that says "Think *insert random fuckery here*" - it's a fucking filthy, lamp-shade-wanna-be dusgusting kike.
>>48704 >Yes. But China is not run by jews, nor do they take orders from New York. They take orders from the party. Which is Chinese. Wrong. Rothchilds (bank of jesuits) help china.
>>51513 Try readin' what I said, instead of imagining in your head. You are the only retard here. Literally told you trump is part of the cabal and you are telling me "two more weeks". Cant fix low iq person i guess.
>>51509 >>51516 >will reinstall Trump. <2more weeks
>>51517 No, I could see them wanting to get Trump's super goofy and turbo-kiked agenda back front and center. The problem they have is goyim shitlibs don't understand the shot and don't understand why jews [and democracy] need a strong conservatism and just want to wreck "trumptards". Shitlibs don't understand that Trump voters are ballistic negrophiles who want to destroy enemies of the jews and hate China because it is full of "nazis". They think Trump voters are White nationalists, whereas jews understand that WN aren't fooled by conservatives anymore.

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